[Arknights] Nymph VS Logos

0:00 RES 90
0:26 RES 35
0:39 +Vistuosa
0:53 100k HP

[@Sciel]

Assuming that there is Virtuosa, Nymph is better when it's high RES but Logos has better cycle and range, number of targets 알투가 붙는다는 가정 하에 마저가 높을수록 님프가 우위를 점하긴 하지만 로고스가 순환도 더 좋고 사거리와 타깃 수 모두 우월합니다

[@kyarumomochi5146]

Iirc Nymph only beats logos after 60 or 70 RES mark so...

[@user-bw6oq7ci2o]

오...알투 있는데 나중에 마저 무지막지하게 챙긴 적 나오면 조합 한번 써보고 싶네요

[@k_a4685]

basically 90% everything

[@BMATCHAAAN]

Logos +Can work alone +Multi target n wider range +Better cycle Nymph +W/ Virtuosa, better at high RES

[@israyantidien4287]

Yeah she's pretty much only good at at CC, SSS, etc

[@BMATCHAAAN]

@@israyantidien4287 worst part is She's only considered "good" (at least her S3) w Elemental dmg applier /which she can't do alone, and our best ritualist is literally Limited

[@kyarumomochi5146]

​@@israyantidien4287Not really. CC and SSS wants operators to do stuff SOLO and Nymph cant do that

[@blitzm4nn511]

@@kyarumomochi5146her s2 permastall w/ mostima can definitely be useful in cc

[@Giovansbilly]

​@@kyarumomochi5146So you think that player has skill issue since they probably play in the mistaken way they think of ops?

[@GreyEnneract]

It's so fucking funny how moduled casters are better primals than their own fucking archetype lmfao

[@kenquanta6761]

uh no, primal caster BOOST elemental dmg while module caster just trigger them

[@GreyEnneract]

@@kenquanta6761 Eben Logos and Ifrit do both so far, while also being fine on their own. Warmy and Diamante are a joke, and Nymph S2 is what makes her shine. Pray for good modules like back in the day lmao.

[@kenquanta6761]

@@GreyEnneract Logos and Ifrit do 40% atk as ele dmg but Nymph do 200% atk as ele dmg with 40% atk ele dmg PER SECOND Get your math right, she's not good per say but she do her job well enough

[@kenquanta6761]

@@GreyEnneract The fact that she managed to tied Logos who are supposed to be the current strongest caster at 0:50 already show how good she can performs under correct condition. If Patriot has more HP she would have won since the necrosis bar only a little more than half

[@GreyEnneract]

@@kenquanta6761 All 3 deal bonus damage while under burst, on top of having their own better talents, and being able to build burst themselves. Even if some uber tank had 99 res you'd just use Ceobe, shredders. or hell just physical. Perma fear is her only saving grace until a module.

[@hendrihendri3939]

The Voice of God finally found his Chosen One *DELETE THEM ALL*

[@Unknown299-hi4qc]

We really go from Ulpian + Gladiia = Godly Laneholder to Nymph + Virtuosa = work how it should be It really goes to show no one had problem with one operator needed a partner combo if theyre littereally came out as unkillable or overpowered beyond belief

[@user-ft1ru8jv1z]

Unlike Gladia and Ulpain, her best in slot teamate is a limited unit. Not to meantion even with Arturia she is on pair with Logos (+ Virtuosa) most of the time and only outshine him when the boss have extremly high res. Still logos is a good unit, on pair or even outshine him in some situation is already show she is a really strong unit.

[@tri9939]

@@user-ft1ru8jv1z you don't really need virtuosa to make nymph good, she is not the only ritualist in the game

[@user-ft1ru8jv1z]

@@tri9939 One problem is others ritulist is 5 stars and 2 of them are extremly mediocre. Bring them just for a unit to work properly isn't a great strat cause this game really promote individuality skills than a charecters need alots of helps due to DP cost, Development slots, place tilte and many more. That why solo landhonder or charecter than can re-deploy fast is so good cause they can easily bypass our disadventage. The reason i used Virtuosa at best pair cause she can help Nymph get her best potential while still provive alot of helps to others unit to make fully used of a her development slots and DP.

[@Khroniclas]

This is why Nymph main skill is S2.

[@user-ft1ru8jv1z]

ST CC move isn't really better than highest true dmg perform by a caster. Not saying her CC is bad, i just want to say hers true dmg are too underrated, even when she can't deal true dmg just by her self we still can borrow others Arturia and kill most enemy in the ways.

[@vice2792ocl]

is it crazy to believe that nymph seems like she is ahead of her time. like if only the Necrosis teams had a better built roster, she would probably thrive with more supports.

[@Forakus]

But it's unlikely it'll ever get that support as it all relies on a limited unit no one really pulled for

[@anman1]

Wait no one pulled for Virtuosa?😮

[@jevs1555]

@@anman1logically why would you pull virtuosa when 3 of the biggest banners are coming up? R6S banner, Shu and Walter banner. Heck some people might even skip shu

[@sweetillusions5495]

@@jevs1555 Because people like Virtuosa and she's probably one the most popular operators currently?

[@jevs1555]

@@sweetillusions5495 I mean good for them I guess but virtuosa is not a must have

[@Grim-n-play]

How every "operator vs operator" videos always go in the comment "Just use both" "Can't solo, BAD!!" "Op1 module is what carried them" "I hope op2 has broken module" "Op1 need high investment for module to be good" "Op2 with module will surpass op1 with module" "*an actual analysis of op2 potent*" "Still mid, op1 still better" "Idc lol, its a waifu must pull" "They done op2 dirty" "Bu- but op2 can still do this..." "Not killing the boss alone, BAD!!" "*put two debate between meta player vs op2 defender*" In my opinion Nymph is just an ok operator, Her main skills is her S2 due to fear mechanic and best source of elemental damage and i can see S3 to be alternative boss shreads if some bosses got like thick RES and DEF and can be absolutely melted with necrosis effect. Shes going to clutch at certain niches when its met kinda like Ceobe when facing againts DOS boss or IS4 4TH Ending boss

[@jdmgkeoe4439]

You perfectly summarized how annoying comments of these videos can be from both meta players and waifu/husband players. I like her design, but personally I don't like operators that are very reliant on another 6 star except for Gladiia who is free.

[@Grim-n-play]

@@jdmgkeoe4439 True one of the flaw that Nymph has is that shes very dependent

[@billlee3851]

​​@@jdmgkeoe4439I mean there's a free 5 star ritualist....

[@dalgona4819]

@@billlee3851 How fares Valarqivn as an Elemental Damage Supporter? Setting aside comparisons to Virtuosa

[@billlee3851]

@@dalgona4819 she's definitely harder to ultilize since her s3 attacks 2 enemies instead of AoE with expanded range. But she can proc it consistently

[@matiasmontero3837]

0:53 poor mountain

[@Positive-virus]

역시 현대 최강의 캐스터 로고스 사토루

[@__cerulean__]

Why dont u use logos s2?

[@tanphamnhat969]

One question, work on all elemental dmg or just necrosis? (there are ops who deal burn dmg)

[@khol1611]

Her skill, is like, if burst of elemental dmg, her Dmg goes incredibly up. But if not, it's just medium or mid

[@user-wd4mq1mu7b]

팩트는 술사가 건강해지고 있단거임

[@k_a4685]

really what's the point of primal after the existence of delta module

[@kenquanta6761]

I think some people in the comment just don't understand about how the sub class work smh. Primal caster boost the elemental dmg, if she herself can trigger it then she would be broken as hell. Nymph is literally doing (pseudo-)TRUE DMG ON 2 TARGETS WITHOUT BACKLASH right there bruh

[@XCZ1-]

JUST USE BOTH🗣🗣🗣

[@FelisImpurrator]

This is the way.

[@lividzokk4801]

The right answer

[@cerealata9035]

This is the way.

[@Sciel]

actually I don't like this line but it really does to Nymph and Logos

[@israyantidien4287]

​​@@Sciel kinda if we count higher content like CC or SSS. Maybe if we got another good ritualist she can become better on general content Edit: I'll say big HP and res cause if enemies just got big res, virtuosa by herself can technically done it and then just put logos with either S1 or S3 since he can also proc the burst damage of necrosis

[@JAzure-hk1sx]

They do really make primal caster module enabling/increasing their damage to reduce the elemental bar. I mean how on earth logos with delta reduce that bar more effectively than their own archetype? I mean, if by chances they introduce delta module to other core casters, that would somewhat kill the entire archetype ain't it?

[@kroa2621]

hg plz give her a module where she can deal ele dmg when attack

[@salesberuang4448]

You need to activated Nymph skill after fallout.

[@sorashizen5130]

Her DPS is pretty high against necrosis burst enemies, so she must be used with logo or especially virtousa

[@Forakus]

Huge oof. That's a DOA unit

[@israyantidien4287]

You know a good buff for her??(beside a module) A good non-limited ritualist, i swear one of her problems is that she doesn't has a good support beside virtuosa. If we have another good ritualist, she might become better. Other than that i find her similar to coebe where she only shine the most at higher content(you might even argue that she's better than ceobe since she deals "true" Damage) with virtuosa

[@kevinseraphin5456]

May I present you Valarqvin, the Free ritualist that's can proc necrosis without much issues as well.

[@ADUDUsimp69]

Also HG make operators can do 2elemental damage(necrosis n burn) So next 6* spiritualist could be burn elementalist...

[@kyarumomochi5146]

​@@ADUDUsimp69I doubt they will powercreep a limited character this soon. Operators far back as suzuran havent been powercrept yet lmao

[@slonik0002]

​@@kyarumomochi5146Does Ros count lol

[@ADUDUsimp69]

@@kyarumomochi5146 I never said about powercreep... I just say "next 6* could be burn spiritualist" since we have warmy n ifrit mod ∆, but there is no burn spiritualist yet

[@14.hohaiong40]

Nymph is not bad; she just needs more ops who proc necrosis for her to work with other than Virtuosa ^^

[@Kira_Yoshikage959]

Logos is cuter so... Logos will be a must pull for me.

[@lloleolom]

Is this comparison just to show that the Logos is broken? It's obvious to anyone who can read abilities that Nymph is weaker than Logos. She has no delta module, no ability to reduce the target's RES, but she has fun control and she's cute. And the whiny metafappers can whine all they want about not having another broken operator released for them 😎

[@MudMudLover]

Well, she's not unusable, and while her niche is really cool i don't think it'll have a lot of uses apart from driving enemies into holes (that will be funny)

[@lloleolom]

@@MudMudLover Well at the very least she can be used to infinitely stall bosses. If you've been through the Reed event, one of the tactics on Eblana is to stall her with protectors. And Nymph alone would do the trick.

[@mauroramondo5855]

Well i mean, nymph essrntially deals true damage and we can see from the video she has more dps than logos during necrosis burst, so she could be used in a lot of cc scenarios that have high def/res bosses, i think she is interesting tho her s3 is kind of underwhelming

[@slonik0002]

@@MudMudLoverFear can’t push enemies directly into holes from what I can tell, although Pancho is different because “water” is not a hole

[@kyarumomochi5146]

She is litterally unusable without an external support on both s2 and s3. Thats bad mate, its not about meta

[@dnjsgh8892]

전제조건이 너무 빡센 오퍼...

[@ReWhiteout]

I'll take logoat since he come in the same banner as walter.

[@user-qe8ij2ox8q]

프라이멀 캐스터 직군 자체가 전제조건이 아르투리아나 로고스라 준비물이 빡세긴 한데 원소적용시 유틸이랑 딜은 확실함... 아직은 고인물 장난감 같긴 한데

[@HappyLovesNymph]

Why isn't Logos just straight up a Primal Caster?!

[@oturan9728]

I mean it's better if he isn't he doesn't end up reliant on others.

[@HappyLovesNymph]

@@oturan9728 But they could make his skill inflict elemental damage.. or give primal casters a module that let them deal elemental damage on their own

[@slonik0002]

@@HappyLovesNymphThen what’s the point of Ritualists lol

[@HappyLovesNymph]

Although I do like HG making elemental damage infliction not exclusive to Ritualist and Primal Casters, regular ops can inflict it too through modules like Ebenholz

[@oturan9728]

@@HappyLovesNymph I don't feel like primal caster will get a module anytime soon. Imo the concept of this class is pretty flawed as soon they made them rely on a another unit to do they things.

[@Bion8clock]

모션도 비슷하고 색깔도 파랑 빨강 계열이다보니까 둘이 되게 잘 어울리네

[@gyulting3805]

파닥~ 파닥~ 파닥~ 파닥~

[@nunya8459]

Primal Casters are so poorly thought out

[@yuruku.]

약간 조건부 케오베인건가 ㅋㅋㅋ

[@BakeTheCake]

I don't find any reason to use Nymph at this point outside of s2

[@israyantidien4287]

Haha Infinite fear goes brrr

[@yiraw]

Personally I dislike Logos so it's an extremely easy choice. It is also worth remembering that somewhere between 40%-60% of Logos's damage (can't remember the specific number) is from his module while Nymph still doesn't have hers.

[@BakeTheCake]

@@yiraw i'm not comparing her to Logos. I prefer to use afk caster like GG or Eyja with s2 or Dusk with s1. for bossing Arturia s1 is enough to deal with any enemy already. Using Nymph is not necessary

[@Cucuue]

​​@@BakeTheCakewhats your conclusion ? She doesn't even has a afk skill

[@farellaksmann8659]

​​​@@yiraw eh, even his S3 without module already outdeals Eyja S3 with Mod3. You're downplaying him too much lmao

[@HappyLovesNymph]

Waaa too cute!!!

[@user-je5fn1yp2i]

결론은 로고스는 신이다

[@Reizy_the_crazy]

She cant even proc the bar into existing. God awful

[@cerealata9035]

Both? Both. Both. Both is good.

[@helmifaiz4504]

Wait, why Nymph doesn't deal any Necrosis damage? (I haven't read her kit btw)

[@WTFUrNotJLo]

Primal Casters don't inherently deal Elemental Damage, unless specified in a talent, skill, or module like with Ritualist Supporters.

[@Fusilete]

I think she does more dmg when necrosis fully implied on them

[@Hoshiyomi-w-]

There is 2 kind of element dmg : the element impairment dmg to tringer element brust (the white cycle ) and element dmg ( the actual dmg that deal dmg to enemies HP) Nymph s3 deal element dmg to enemies under element brust, but she doesn't deal element impairment dmg to tringer it. That why using Arturia is basically a requirement to even use her s3

[@israyantidien4287]

Yes her S3 won't deals any elemental damage only the burst damage, so she need someone like(specifically) virtuosa

[@aizeroth8858]

She can deal elemental damage with S1 and S2 but not with S3. S3 is designed to be used only when you have someone else to trigger necrosis, and the reward is a lot of true damage (though its too early to say if this combo is worth it).

[@user-xc9uh3vp7u]

사멸을 님프 2스킬처럼 팡! 하고 순간적으로 터뜨릴 수 있는 캐릭이 있으면 님프 3스가 진자 셀텐데 아직까지 그런 오퍼가 없어서 많이 아쉽다.. 걍 로고스가 너무사기같기도하네 이렇게보니깐🤔

[@youchoose-d7y]

只能说两者配上阿尔图罗超好用

[@mag1216]

근데 어차피 고점에서는 둘 다 쓸 거 아닌가

[@angelmariooliver5799]

Logos is god!!!!!!

[@darkomega6597]

Logos is straightforward powerful.. Nymph is the evilest of evil, slamdunk enemy with necrosis with a chair (I can just imagine that)..

[@noirgost6809]

Logos module feel like cheating. Hopefully HG do justice to primal caster module

[@Red.Bean.]

중섭은 뽑긴했는데 한섭은 10연차만 돌리고 넘길듯...

[@galuhdesuka7378]

And I'm probably not gonna have both because lost all my orondum trying get stupid ray

[@Ch1l1C0nCarnag3]

Hypergryph, I swear to god if the Primal Module doesn't give them MORE elemental application to their trait/talent than the other casters, I will be angry. It's what they're made for. If they get the same 8% as everyone else then it's just insulting. 10% minimum, 13-15% if you actually want them to be good.

[@kyuzo6747]

Just use Diamante.

[@theh7898]

Nymph nodiffs in cuteness, can't wait to see what they cook for her skin.

[@denden6316]

Just use virtuosa lmao

[@user-yanadu.]

로고스 이 미친 알파메일색기는 못가진게 뭐임

[@touchme4856]

Im sorry Logos, i dont want you anymore

[@kyarumomochi5146]

Logos + Virtuosa is only beaten after 6 RES mark AND EVEN THERE Logos can just work alone. Nymph is REQUIRED to be paired with someone so she basically costs two deployment slots and the worst thing is that Valerquin is terrible and makes Nymph much weaker so you either use her with virtuosa or dont use her at all wich means her peak performance is limited to virtuosa, wich virtuosa just does better with Logos or nobody at all. Yeah she is mid ag

[@dennissrin6600]

Nymph so good caster

[@RARYARA]

로고스가 쌘거야 님프가 구린거야

[@끼뺫]

로고스가 쎈것도 있고 모듈차이도 있지

[@psptt]

로고스가 말도안되게 쌘거임 그리고 님프는 아직 모듈 안받았으니 더 쌔질 가능성 있고

[@mamel6737]

님프는 2스가 고트임

[@jevs1555]

Objectively wrong on that first part. Logos IS the BEST caster STATISTICALLY.

[@BladeRabbit]

Considering theyre tied right now with Arturia included, Nymph will be stronger than Logos by a mile when she gets her module

[@lawrent]

a big cope tbh. but we'll see

[@Unknown299-hi4qc]

We're still at Passenger module type of cope huh... I almost thought we we're stop at brawler module and same could be said for both Ho'ol module

[@Cucuue]

​@@lawrent wdym with cope ? Just with module base atk bonus alone she should be killing patriot faster than Logos

[@p00p11]

honestly don't want that to be the case because logos just got released only to be powercrept by a unit months later

[@simmie912]

nymphs fans, you're her strongest coping soldiers, god bless you