btw I have a whole playlist where I break Minecraft with mods, its perfect to fall asleep to: kzbin.info/aero/PL6-9RTZd8xyQ5g0iRdWkJXVhl0WIgyZOo&si=CI0ZsTQsBIoXCuZf Mod link: mcreator.net/modification/88045/minecraft-strongest If I missed a mod or if you want to suggest me one, join my discord to tell me! discord.com/invite/RvmU3uN6Hn
@precascer82212 ай бұрын
As stupid as these mods may be, I love how shamelessly over the top The Strongest is. And the more broken mods means more Arox doing stuff, so it's a win!
@tierinie2 ай бұрын
At this point a sword that deletes the files themselves is probably the only way to kill these bossee because if you didnt know even just the box could go between worlds and sht
@Man-q7o2 ай бұрын
You can't delete files that are in use... That's literally just not how shit works.
@tierinie2 ай бұрын
@@Man-q7o ever heard of temporarily not using the game? it wouldn't be smooth as the game would freeze as soon as you use it but it'll get the job done the sword would just auto exit the game and just put an image of the last frame while it deletes the files in the background making it seem like it "lagged"
@IamWone2 ай бұрын
For our sins we deserve eternity in hell, but God loves us so much he came as Jesus to pay the price of our sins through living a perfect life for us, his death and his resurrection so we can be forgiven and receive eternal life if we follow and obey him in faith FOR LIFE , Jesus loves u and desires to have a personal relationship with you of love, peace, redemption and obedience ✝️ May Jesus bless you, repent of your sins and turn to Christ before it's too late 🙏🏿❤️
@Man-q7o2 ай бұрын
@@tierinie so a mod that that has its own executable that can delete files on your PC? I don't think antivirus would allow that
@Workerforhimalways2 ай бұрын
Jesus is the only way to salvation ❤❤❤
@starsturck27012 ай бұрын
i feel like this mod is entirely a prank on power scalers
@CerealExperimentsMizuki2 ай бұрын
Everything except for The Box and the Transcendent God are only Hyperversal as they only stack Ordinal Powersets of Omega and Epsilon Infinities. The Box and Transcendent God both are Outerversal as they surpass the concept of Infinity, (Inaccessible Cardinals) and are unable to be killed by any in game means, and are able to exist throughout the Minecraft Continuity (contains Infinite Multiverses that each contain many Infinite sized Realms and Universes) and can kill Spectator Mode Steve, which is literally just the camera that avatars Steve and his data. Not even at the spot where the camera is. It's like killing somebody by hurting their imaginary hologram made from Intangible thought. Plus they literally transcend the Platonic Concepts of Structure, Space, Dimensions, Size, Distance, Locality, Omnilock, Speed and Health. Technically that should make them both High Outerversal as they surpass so many Platonic Concepts.
@sk20582 ай бұрын
@@CerealExperimentsMizukisolod by goku
@CerealExperimentsMizuki2 ай бұрын
@@sk2058 personally, I'm not into that meme about Goku being Gokuversal and all that stuff. He's just Low Multiversal fodder.
@nicco68182 ай бұрын
@@CerealExperimentsMizukiignore that They are just ragebait meatriders
@noone76572 ай бұрын
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki That's too low, he's Complex Multiversal+ if we use his best form
@ilikerice81262 ай бұрын
The e stands for exponent. So for the wither god, 250e3003 is 250^3003 so it's 250 multiplied by 10 except instead of there being one 0, it's 3003 zeroes. I probably explained that bad but yeah
@epicsansbruh52 ай бұрын
Thanks i understanded
@CerealExperimentsMizuki2 ай бұрын
Yes you did but it's still understandable. An easier way would be a 250 followed by 3,003 Zeroes.
@Random_username_12342 ай бұрын
250^3003 is a different number, what you meant is 250*(10^3003)
@ilikerice81262 ай бұрын
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki yeah that’s way better thank you
@ilikerice81262 ай бұрын
@@Random_username_1234 ohhh right my bad
@Nox_tenebris2 ай бұрын
My favorite type of mod,reminds me of those old mods that had mobs that destroyed and exploded everything
@Lifegotmid2 ай бұрын
16:00 "Eventually Arox Stopped Thinking"
@Quwucuqin2 ай бұрын
Is that a JoJo's reference
@waliedsalam24872 ай бұрын
@@QuwucuqinYes
@yeet0osu2 ай бұрын
I think that happened a long time ago
@Peop2-kj1ug2 ай бұрын
Wait is that a reference to bad Monday simulator.
@dilfaabbasy80652 ай бұрын
@@yeet0osuwhat stronger author or transcenden soul
@mr.x9912 ай бұрын
Whenever you see "e" on a number, it's the same as "x 10 to the power of" Basically, it tells you how many zeros are after that number So 23e40 is 23, followed by 40 zeroes Even crazier, for example: 5e1e20 is basically 5 followed by (1 followed by 20 zeroes) zeroes 💀
@Blaster13602 ай бұрын
This mod is like Orespawn on crack.
@MDG-mykys21 күн бұрын
Nothing is more on crack that Ore Spawn
@ritmitnit2 ай бұрын
witherzilla 2 electric boogaloo
@lord7112 ай бұрын
I will soon change the comment something related to the video
@AUHONCHAKRAVERTY8-A2 ай бұрын
Chat is this real
@folayemiadeniyi-z8p2 ай бұрын
CHAT🤯IS BRO COOKED😭💀🙏🗣
@ahmedhusagic-93782 ай бұрын
What I dont understands that
@greatestfroge2 ай бұрын
@@ahmedhusagic-9378 Good
@ASKern_2 ай бұрын
This mod feels like young version of me holding little rocks and naming them 'COSMOS THE DESTROYER AND CONSUMER OF MULTIVERSE' and making most epik fight lore in my head. And it's exactly my cup of tea.
@lastbork88232 ай бұрын
The fact some bosses need almost max render distance so you can see the mf lmao
@rbggamingchair88982 ай бұрын
I have this mod recommendation called advent of ascension which adds WAY too many dimensions, bosses, swords, tools, mobs, the list goes on. The point is you should check it out
@simpleman38982 ай бұрын
That would be cool😊
@PrinceContreras-w8n2 ай бұрын
i like mods that add overly obnoxious boss that are big as hell and break the game
@CerealExperimentsMizuki2 ай бұрын
So it's pretty weak compared to the mods with the bosses that surpass all Dimensions.
@ermet35142 ай бұрын
7:41 Riven's theme is so fitting.
@feb98102 ай бұрын
whats riven
@lumina60122 ай бұрын
@@feb9810 Big ass wish dragon
@MrazLin4 күн бұрын
4:28 God: Your behavior is unacceptable. Destroying everything in your path… also God: DESTROYING EVERYTHING IN THEIR PATH. classic god behavior ☕️
@HALAL_ONE2 күн бұрын
do you love GOD ?
@MrazLin2 күн бұрын
@@HALAL_ONE Are you a missionary?
@Ibrahimnahali2 ай бұрын
I never expected to see steve get defeated when his power is beyond human's comprehension...
@Lifegotmid2 ай бұрын
16:00 Eventually Arox Stopped Thinking
@Imanegg15 күн бұрын
At 10:48 "e" basically means how much zeros that number has behind it Basically 400e100 is a 400 with 100 zeros
@nicholas-dv1mg19 күн бұрын
man, see E numbers again is so nostaligic, it was everywhere in idle and clicker games.
@mrrikegame2 ай бұрын
ah, what a nice mod that adds unbeatable bosses... alr, enough fun, now make a survival series where you beat every boss in it >:)
@CerealExperimentsMizuki2 ай бұрын
The symbol that showed on the Boundless Sword that showed how much damage it does to Non Omnipotent beings, was actually the Ordinal called Omega. Omega is an ordinal, which is many Infinite sets of Aleph replacement axioms and is basically, Infinite, Infinite, Infinities. And thats just how much damage it does and theres other weapons that are Epsilon or Powersets of Aleph Naught or Powersets of Epsilon² x Omega² stronger too. I wouldnt be surprised if theres weapons that are Inaccessible Cardinal times stronger or Supercompact Woodin Cardinals times stronger. At that point, Infinity as a concept becomes self contradictions resolving themselves into Unity.
@Ag-zk6jw14 күн бұрын
Seems like a victim of Superman and Thor
@CerealExperimentsMizuki14 күн бұрын
@Ag-zk6jw no shit, but I wanted to explain what the symbols on the weapons were.
@Ag-zk6jw14 күн бұрын
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki so you agree superman and thor solo the strongest
@CerealExperimentsMizuki13 күн бұрын
@Ag-zk6jw yeah, I never typed that they couldn't, I never even brought them up. The Box in this mod only reaches Hugh Outerversal while current Thor and Rebirth Superman are easily Transfinite to Infinite Outerversal.
@Ag-zk6jw13 күн бұрын
@ they are actually extraversal as I can get ordinals beyond 1s like church Kleene ordinal or stuff like aleph church Kleene ordinal or inaccessible cardinals and even absolute infinity and hyper operation functions with infinity
@culhacol2 ай бұрын
10:50 luckily for you, I’m a big numbers nerd. That number is 4 Tretrigintillion
@jazeanler2 ай бұрын
AHH HAILL NAHHH 😭🙏
@CerealExperimentsMizuki2 ай бұрын
Your profile picture is the app icon for that mobile game about cells or something.
@ozzyfb85172 ай бұрын
Cell to singularity
@CerealExperimentsMizuki2 ай бұрын
@@ozzyfb8517 yeah that's the name. I enjoyed that game but got bored once I reached like a Duodecillion Cells.
@too_online.34412 ай бұрын
ha! this mod was great, i even suggested one of the bosses: (10:08) terminus initially, i was trying to make the name cool, but i believe it is quite fitting now since every mob is like "I am the end to your boss-rush.", and terminus means Limit, or End i'm also an admin in the mod's official discord
@artistatic2 ай бұрын
found you hehehe :D
@thegiantenemyspider12 ай бұрын
the Strongest mod of today vs the Craziest mod of history
@smoke2332dc2 ай бұрын
nah i'd win
@Lucky_Luc3692 ай бұрын
5:08 the dmg of the sword is exactly 1 Googol dmg
@Kapitan_Wasia2 ай бұрын
10:52 just 400 and 100 zeros
@Azriel_MR2 ай бұрын
or 4 with 102 zeros
@Kapitan_Wasia2 ай бұрын
@@Azriel_MR yeah something like that
@dilfaabbasy80652 ай бұрын
@@Kapitan_Wasiawhat stronger author or transcenden
@Kapitan_Wasia2 ай бұрын
@@dilfaabbasy8065 i think transcenden but idk how many go he have
@Lordylen2 ай бұрын
Finally someone realized this mod exists the other mods are nothing compared to this.
@itsactiontime1414Ай бұрын
It isn’t well known because the mod is dogshit lol
@RokasPr-b5m2 ай бұрын
3:07 godly armor
@hemantsingh21572 ай бұрын
Ik English
@voiddreemur43642 ай бұрын
That was... something I guess? Also I wonder if someone has actually done a playthrough of this mod (If you actually can that is...) and great video as always Arox :D
@NK082 ай бұрын
Love to see mod reviews again like good old days
@Michael-uw1vi2 ай бұрын
After everything I’ve seen you do. I’m surprised that you still have a PC.
@ElatedElate2 ай бұрын
hes using a samsung galaxy fold 5 with crazy multitasking capabilities
@Walnnut20 күн бұрын
This mod feels like it was made by a powerscaler
@Ag-zk6jw20 күн бұрын
True
@voidwalker24282 ай бұрын
the armor has like no durability comparied to how much damage the bosses do.
@sam-s6o2 ай бұрын
10:06 this is where the screen flashing ends, skip too this if u have epilypsy
@sk20582 ай бұрын
bros trying to kill someone
@sam-s6o2 ай бұрын
@@sk2058 nah I ain’t ,yo aah tripping boy
@Cassio_Ramos_2 ай бұрын
10:51 it is 400 with 100 zeros following it
@DeyBawnes2 ай бұрын
The developer is making a new mod called beyond skies that has crazy bosses like this
@musaraza5055Ай бұрын
Any clips pls send
@singularitygaming48932 ай бұрын
The boundless blade, if I'm correct, does a google damage, which is 1^100, or 1 with 100 zeroes after it.
@THEFILMED2008Ай бұрын
Through his endless scouring The Infinite God Arox came across other beings like himself, beings who sought to harm him for his past transgressions, so he fought and bested every foe he came across until he reached the pinnacle of existence: The Transcendent Soul.
@AroxAgainАй бұрын
FILMED IS BACK WITH HEAT 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@HoneyJohnson-g4b2 ай бұрын
I would literally pay to see you do a video with these mods again, it so cool
@КириллТрифонов-е5ф2 ай бұрын
Ah crap. Looks like powerscalers are making Minecraft mods now. We’re screwed
@Ag-zk6jwАй бұрын
True
@zackwilliams-en6dg2 ай бұрын
boundless blade 1e100 is the scientific notation for googol or 1 followed by 100 zeros not to be confused with googolplex or 1 followed by 10100 zeros
@fadetnsthunder97782 ай бұрын
Imagine witherzilla vs the withergod
@tapeeeee2 ай бұрын
i think withergod will win but at the same time he might be glitched and its basicly witherzilla but worse
@Godofbottle25 күн бұрын
@@tapeeeee does wither god have such a insta kill abillity?
@duckman5542 ай бұрын
Omnipotent comes from the latin words Omni and Potens, meaning all capable. It's not even unfathomably powerful, they are capable of anything everything, anything.
@CerealExperimentsMizuki2 ай бұрын
It also has different meanings, it could mean somebody with great power, not Infinite but virtually Infinite, or it could mean somebody or something with great influence.
@duckman5542 ай бұрын
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki Literally means ALL capable. Nigh Omnipotent means somebody with so much power its almost Infinite.
@CerealExperimentsMizuki2 ай бұрын
@@duckman554 Google is free.
@HotDogGodornoАй бұрын
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki GET off, greek is GREEK, you americans are annoying BOTH OF YOU @duckman554
@therealGecko_KingYT2 ай бұрын
I'm still waiting for Arox to spawn in 10 phase 7 Wither Storms from Cracker's Wither Storm and then do /tp @e @s
@perfectrestrelaxation15922 ай бұрын
Great video as always you should do breaking minecraft with bow mods next
@oliver_editzz61Ай бұрын
There’s this thing from the siren head mod called the Trevor sword which could be considered THE MOST powerful weapon out of any Minecraft mod, since it’s the kill command but on steroids. With a single tap, everything, even mobs like cartoon cat who are immune to the kill command get instantly wiped.
@baltazar_niszczyciel_swiatow2 ай бұрын
now we need lost infinity stones
@incandescence55472 ай бұрын
>Mod is called "The Strongest" >Video is uploaded one day before 9/9
@ВадимЛукомский-ъ1ь11 күн бұрын
5:40 - I think this is a projection of 5D cube (Actually 4.5 because 5D cube should show at least 4 normal 3D cubes) 13:33 - THIS boss is a 5D cube
@HyperCodecАй бұрын
The titan mod in 1.7.10 is also really cool. The wither titan can ban you from your own world :). I wish there were good modern ports tho.
@VeryNormalUser-WiggleWorm2 ай бұрын
In your 10k years of looking through mods you finally found a mod that is strong
@halo-lv9jf2 ай бұрын
it would be really cool if someone made a modpack out of this making it playable with progression like dam i fw this mod heavy
@sahilhossian82122 ай бұрын
Lore of Conquering Minecraft's #1 Strongest Mod momentum 100
@herobane9482 ай бұрын
The Ancient Guardian: 4000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 HP
@1337LiketonАй бұрын
The infinity matter dominator sword mod 💀💀💀
@sarahcelaje96582 ай бұрын
Kids: WITHER STORM ogs:witherzilla
@Witherstorm-gv6eq2 ай бұрын
The beckbrojack memories are returning to me Is he still alive
@nicco68182 ай бұрын
@@Witherstorm-gv6eqofc he is😂
@ali3hna22 ай бұрын
0:16 Teacher if they became Minecraft KZbinr
@glauberglousger9562 ай бұрын
Then there's the Stage IV Beckon, not too absurdly powerful like the rest of these bosses But definitely deserves a mention considering the mod is so broken and can kill you in infinity armor And then there's that one Herobrine mod that just deletes your world, I guess that works too?
@user-om3pk8ts4j2 ай бұрын
Ah yes, powerscaling: the mod
@CerealExperimentsMizuki2 ай бұрын
It's actually pretty tame compared to a lot of other things in fiction.
@user-om3pk8ts4j2 ай бұрын
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki Not tame, have you ever seen the wiki site for these things? They're crazy strong, I could say that they're one of the strongest in fiction (if what they say is correct). Of course this being an OC and all would be stupidly strong like that.
@CerealExperimentsMizuki2 ай бұрын
@@user-om3pk8ts4j bro, Transcendent God and The Box only reach High Outerversal. Yeah that is incomprehensibly overpowered and can solo over half of fiction. But there's some absolutely crazy verses with insane and absurd cosmology and Abstract ideas and Rouge Narratives that most people can't even grasp in terms of a fictional story. Ever heard of Lovecraft or Stephen King or Stephen Baxter or SCP Foundation?? They have verses and cosmology that are widely known to be some of the most powerful in all of fiction and make these Minecraft Mods look very tame in comparison.
@@PrinceContreras-w8n video games are fiction bro. They're a fictional world created by Humans. 💀💀
@Restarted_R3set2 ай бұрын
12:30 2016 mods be like:
@MDG-mykys21 күн бұрын
This mods gives me nostalgia
@theruinedintegrallimitslolАй бұрын
the fact that the omnipotent god complains about water is just confusing
@Vaporwavelol2 ай бұрын
I like really powerful bosses but I feel like this just isn’t well made at all
@nicco68182 ай бұрын
Yeah They just made the health alot
@skorpymeow6992 ай бұрын
imaginary technique, the box
@primordius7772 ай бұрын
Pure slops but entertaining
@lip3452 ай бұрын
have you never seen the titans mod? it's probably not like this one but imo it's a lot more well made and very cool, even though it's very old
@AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH2562 ай бұрын
do a survival series with this mod!
@SketchSkarLive17 күн бұрын
Mans playing destiny 2 music W music choice
@01fifi102 ай бұрын
10:52 A lot more than there are atoms in the universe.
@kyuuseishu51332 ай бұрын
You should try Titans mod, its for older versions and is super overpowerd
@RandomguySNNS2 ай бұрын
he already did
@kyuuseishu51332 ай бұрын
@@RandomguySNNS can u link the mpd?
@kyuuseishu51332 ай бұрын
@@RandomguySNNS the video*
@Shoaib-t3o2 ай бұрын
Bros suffering made the vid worth it !!!
@sephrosemary2 ай бұрын
I fucking hate the fact that powerscales got ahold of metaphysical concepts, its so obnoxious
@AroxAgain2 ай бұрын
Life was over the moment powerscalers learned about the word "verse"
@BlitzTangoFox2 ай бұрын
ah yes I sure do love "conquering minecraft's #1 strongest mod" also known as get /killed over and over again because the bosses are too powerful.
@AroxAgain2 ай бұрын
Eh potato potahto
@BlitzTangoFox2 ай бұрын
@@AroxAgain potahto potato.
@bluecrayfish20812 ай бұрын
@@AroxAgain tomato tomahto
@HameleoshaDeHoga2 ай бұрын
This might be my favorite mod unironically
@HameleoshaDeHoga2 ай бұрын
I wonder why it got delisted, did the creator of the mod do that or did the moderators think it's a virus because there's like mobs that carry over to other Minecraft worlds. And if the mod dev did that then why, do they hate their mod or is it all part of the lore because the craziest mod gotta be on like arg levels of immersion or something 🤔 hmmm...
@AroxAgain2 ай бұрын
I didn't hear it from the creator themselves, but I've heard that they unshared it from curseforge because too many people accused it of stealing code from The Titans Mod
@CerealExperimentsMizuki2 ай бұрын
@@AroxAgain didn't you show more powerful mods on previous videos or is the Transcendent Soul and The Box, the most powerful beings in Minecraft?? If so then Minecraft caps at High Outerversal.
@Ag-zk6jw14 күн бұрын
@@CerealExperimentsMizukihe probably doesn’t know these powerscaling words
@CodyHopp2 ай бұрын
I wish these mobs have better like abilities than just blowing things up and just destroying blocks kinda lame I love there designs but just wish it’s more interesting,and not making all them so massive and make these bosses little more easy to fight against and have a better hit box on them,they still can make them super op but not like insanely overpowered were you can’t even do anything to them, and with they drop some amazing loot and have like different dimensions for these guys would be awesome
@Blueninja-xt4ci2 ай бұрын
This is what an average Terraria mod looks like. Lol.
@_machello_85102 ай бұрын
Fun fact, Omniverse means basically a universe with all the multi verses
@ElatedElate2 ай бұрын
bet you feel real good sayin something you dont think we know
@CerealExperimentsMizuki2 ай бұрын
Omniverse is usually something that describes an entire verse, not just containing all Multiverses, that's a Megaverse. Omniverses usually contains all Dimensions, Realms, Concepts and beings, anything outside or above that is Abstract and Omnilock and Boundless compared to anything and everything inside the Omniverse.
@_machello_85102 ай бұрын
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki oh so it holds EVERYTHING?
@CerealExperimentsMizuki2 ай бұрын
@@_machello_8510 yes, an Omniverse is way bigger (most of the time although it depends on the verse cosmology and how big it is) omniverses usually just contain all of Reality and beyond. Omni usually means "all encompassing" which is also a definition of Omnipresent but Omniversal is used to describe everything and beyond. I hope I make sense.
@black.73812 ай бұрын
Would,love to see a actual playthrough with these mods
@karbaniteАй бұрын
this dude seems chill, ima subscribe
@ionisator1Ай бұрын
yeah hes epic i was in a livestream event with him once and he has a discord server
@smipner-yq2ot2 ай бұрын
There's a Godzilla mod that kills you In creative mode
@CreepyTheCreeper1952 ай бұрын
Which one?
@smipner-yq2ot2 ай бұрын
@@CreepyTheCreeper195 I don't remember what It was called but the Godzilla was designed after the heisei version and his head was above cloud level and you needed to be near a village to spawn him
@CreepyTheCreeper1952 ай бұрын
The Mod was Called Croc's Godzilla Minus One Mod(kinda)
@angry-blackguy2 ай бұрын
babe wake up arox just dropped
@Widikchobocera29Ай бұрын
These mod is probably made an powerscaler
@Ag-zk6jw20 күн бұрын
True
@TripleTrickShot2 ай бұрын
10:45 400e100 is 400 followed by 100 zeros Basically 400 × 10^100
@bubbit18562 ай бұрын
Which is 400 googol
@LetmebeANOLOG4 күн бұрын
The only thing that can beat the omnipotent king is the boundless blade and peta 💀
@dadamaldasstuff18162 ай бұрын
The number after "e" is just the number of zeros. 6e4 = 60 000
@ElatedElate2 ай бұрын
🤯
@Ag-zk6jw14 күн бұрын
Arox the goat
@RandomKnife-m1o2 ай бұрын
The Lobotomy Corporation music fits surprisingly well
@Beepers5592 ай бұрын
Timestamp?
@MehdiIn4k2 ай бұрын
Finally a +12 min vid
@TopuFPS2 ай бұрын
youre really skilled!
@inferlazeboi2 ай бұрын
average powerscaler bs:
@sus_men78378 сағат бұрын
wait untill Goku hears about it
@Ag-zk6jwАй бұрын
If a powerscaler made a mod
@someguy7312220 күн бұрын
Fr tho, also sup
@Ag-zk6jw20 күн бұрын
@ sup
@LoveElisaKiss2 ай бұрын
Rare blob has more hp than cosmic guard I want to see this mod vs avaritia mod
@ethanhale69312 ай бұрын
100...now 200 years of mincraft mods? Pathetic, I have 900 years of experience >:)
@romeotenkes2 ай бұрын
You can tell he’s purposefully trying to make himself have a deep voice
@T23-goku2 ай бұрын
it is probably the strongest mod I've ever seen. I think the titan mod is not even closed
@nicco68182 ай бұрын
Yes
@GameLord5092 ай бұрын
imagine doing this in survival would be literally impossible
@marvelagm1622Ай бұрын
slimefun: are you kidding? i can make a armor that every damage taken is 1, use protection level 255 and there is no damage
@n3rdspeed7882 ай бұрын
10:50 that's 400 followed by 100 zeros
@PrinceContreras-w8n2 ай бұрын
can you give us the link to the older version you just talked about?