Art Theft in the Planner Community 📙

[@dandelionpuff]

Never have I ever set up a whole month in my bullet journal, and then used exactly none of it. 😬😭

[@StephsDesignSpace]

Never have I ever: bought stationary because everyone has it, bought duplicate stationery because I forgot I already had it, created a bullet journal😲, bought every type of planner trying to find peace, hoarded supplies because they are "soo pretty", have a stash of "ugly" pens for people to borrow instead of my "pretty pens", regretted purchases. I could go on, but I will get back to work. Thanks for a great episode.

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

All the things. Thanks for checking out the episode and your suggestions.. -Mark

[@thenubianreview]

😂 that's the truth!

[@amypoole30]

I just want to say the friendly chemistry is fabulous! You guys just connect so well and it helps following your content and makes you guys just so much fun to watch. I only watch you guys cause i normally do not like podcasts. Bravo!

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

Wow, thank you! We really appreciate this feedback. Means the world to us. - Mark

[@suebateman4480]

Never have I ever said "New journal? No, I've had this for ages" to my husband before later confessing that yes, it was indeed ANOTHER new journal 😅

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

HAHAHAHAHA- Mark

[@TheCraftyWitchUK]

I know that one of the creators in the cake makings sphere of the Internet always bakes with a green sponge cake as the basis for her cakes so that whenever anyone shares or repost her work, it can easily be traced back to her

[@Somebodyelse141]

I've seen some videos by her!

[@TALLYWLT]

Never have I ever glued any entire month together in my journal because I didn't liked the way it looked. Never have I ever added an additional $20 to an order to save $8 in shipping charges.

[@Littlepea88]

That darn free shipping gets me every time!! The next episode is going to be a hoot!

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

OMG the shipping!! Yes -Mark

[@prexytheartist]

When you mentioned a lawyer, I instantly thought of the @crookedcalligraphy! Never have I ever tried moving a sticker on a page and ripped off the paper.

[@ElizabethRBain]

Fun fact: (in the United States and many places in the world) common law copyright attaches when the work is in fixed form, no government paperwork required. If someone has filed the government paperwork to register the copyright and you get sued, you're in a massive world of hurt if you've made any money (as a registered copyright can get triple damages).

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

Oh very interesting. Thanks for sharing - mark

[@olympianagel9379]

yay a new episode! i know they’re fortnightly but i always start to think ‘surely it’s been more than two weeks’ and then you post. which is just a testament to how much i enjoy these episodes!

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

Aw thank you 🙏 it feels like a long time too until Jess and I are like, crap this is due in 5 days haha. - Mark

[@Mellylein]

Same here, Olympia 😉

[@marybethgibson4022]

Never have I ever planned a theme over a month in advance only to hate it and love my last minute throw-together-in-a-day themes better anyway.

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

TY for submitting

[@ReignBeauxStar]

I did a whole spread one month just like one Jess did and although I didn't actually post it I still titled it Ode To Jess

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

Haha awww! That’s awesome 😄 - Jess

[@Hey_its_CeeTee]

Never have I ever bought stationery I knew I would never actually use. Never have I ever ripped out a page in a bullet journal because of a "mistake" on the page.

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

Thank you

[@lulugregory3246]

Never have I ever said to my friends and family right I’m not going to buy ANY stationery this month and literally two days later ordered 6 bullet journal notebooks because they were on sale Never have I ever bought an expensive notebook having NO idea what I am going to use it for, but it’s just soooo pretty!!

[@olympianagel9379]

omg relatable

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

Great ones. Thank you - Mark

[@nickyvanderschaaf]

#guilty

[@katharinawichmann8284]

Never have I ever did back plan or writing down to dos after I did them.

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

I am going to be peeing my pants after all these 😂-Mark

[@BerisCumming]

Never have I ever completed a monthly tracker, all drink 😂

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

😂 calling us all out 😝

[@gnomie2.0]

Yayyyyy Planner Pals! Always great to see a new episode from you two! ❤❤

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

Hope you enjoyed it 😄

[@katharinawichmann8284]

Never have I ever removed a sticker after I sticked it down to find a better placement

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

That’s skill -Mark

[@Littlepea88]

I found this episode really informative. I love Pinterest for inspiration, but I hate when I see designs or patterns (e.g. cross stitch, crochet etc) reproduced page by page to get around copyright, and this is no different. Someone has put their time, effort, creativity and sometimes blood, sweat and tears into something, and they should get the credit for that. I also know exactly what journaling company you were referring to, and I won't buy from them now. On a happier note, I often find myself laughing out loud with your friendly banter (the shower stories in the previous episode had me doubled up) so I can't wait for the never have I ever episode! My drink will also be non-alcoholic, and I suspect I will be VERY well hydrated if I join in! Never have I ever spent HOURS organising my craft "stash"! (This can apply to all sorts - pens, inks, washi, paper, stamps, wool, fabric etc.)

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

Thanks for checking out the episode and for your comment. So glad you are enjoying our silly banter. It’s the beset work relationship :-) - Mark

[@SheilaSanchezblog]

Never have I ever created my own stickers. Never have I ever tried to convert everyone I know into bullet journaling. Never have I ever started planning next year's bullet journal in June... Great episode!!!

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

Thank you for checking it out and for your suggestions -Mark

[@pernillekristensen2337]

You both do it so well i used so much of your videos to make a journal BUT i am not a creator so even if i copy your work its only me (and my sister - when she looks for inspo) there sees it but keep up the good work both of you i love your videos and podcast

[@ThaBloodWitch]

I hate copycat accounts on social media, and clones of bigger accounts are AWFUL, but you can't escape them. The number of follow requests I get on TikTok from copycat accounts of the bigger creators I follow are ridiculous. That being said, I'm guilty of using Pinterest inspiration. I recently made a collage of cover pages I recreated with their inspiration pictures and posted that to my Instagram. I don't have the original creators' names, but I tried to make it clear they were not my idea! 😅 Never Have I Ever would be so fun! I'll have to think on that...

[@Mellylein]

Never have I ever ... sorted my bullet journal by rainbow colors 🌈📚. I hope I understood the game 😉.Thanks so much for the video, guys. 💐Kind regards from Germany from Melly ✨

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

Thanks for adding to the list - Mark

[@jen-x-erplansstuff5407]

Never have I ever misnumbered my calendars on my Bullet Journal! Also, never have I ever taken apart my book-bound planner and put it on discs!!

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

Thank you

[@MiaBlaha]

Never have I ever switched the newly set up bullet journal I spent hours working on for the new one just because “the vibes were off” 😅

[@MiaBlaha]

Never have I ever start bullet journal in the middle of the month

[@MiaBlaha]

Never have I ever finished bullet journal (or any other notebook) filling in all pages.

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

Oh no!!! -mark

[@cfodel]

Never have I ever accumulated 20+ blank notebooks in my favorite size, or multiple sets of my favorite pens in case they run out.

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

only 20??? 😆-Mark

[@theusefuljournal]

Thanks guys - great podcast! I’m listening to a few while I’m cleaning my house after moving out 😅 The affiliate thing is an interesting subject. I intentionally buy the journals I review so I don’t feel any responsibility to the company and can be comfortable giving my honest opinion, but this of course means I am unlikely to make any money! Affiliate arrangements really don’t seem to have much payoff but maybe I’m doing it wrong 😂 I’d love to hear a discussion about whether ‘lives’ are worth doing, and the whole thing of showing vs not showing your face. I’m older, so I sometimes wonder if people flick on through because I’m not in their age bracket or don’t have the right ‘look’. I suppose the question would be, how important is your personal identity to the planner community when you’re a content creator?

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

Thanks for your comment. I hope you are enjoying all the episodes. I personally think that the personal identity only comes into play if you want it to. People definitely like to have a face to go with the account - but you don’t need to have a face to it if it’s not the type of account you want to have. I think you can follow a creator and get to know then without having to see them. But also, if you are just here for the notebooks - then you might not be worried about the person behind the account. -Mark

[@AdyGrafovna]

Never have I ever started a new journal even when I still have tons of room in my current planner just because I really want a different color cover for the new season.

[@basically_marie]

Never have I ever bought an entirely new set up (notebooks, pens, etc) for a project I never even started

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

Added to the list

[@pilesofthings]

here's 3 'never have I evers,' and ones a lie :P 1) Never have I ever discarded an unfinished notebook 2) Never have I ever used a pen to draw on my or a friends skin 3) Never have I ever chewed on the back of my pen or pencil ... super fun podcast guys thx

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

Oooo a mix of games, i like it

[@annettefertitta6868]

I agree, give people their due credit. I like to go back and look up the artist

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

You are a good one! -Mark

[@dorlosky]

Well done, Mark, on coming up with a new, totally legit excuse, um I mean reason, for getting a new pen.

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

Hahaha, I will always find one.

[@tatteredpage]

Never have I ever scheduled a stationer's new collection drop into my day. Also, never have I ever forgotten what I ordered.

[@suebateman4480]

I had a brief moment where I was paranoid about the fact that I've used ideas from other people in my journals and not credited them, but then I realised that 1 it's not the sort of theft you were talking about and 2 I'm the only one using my journal and I do tell my family where I got my ideas from if they notice a pretty page I'm working on Mark, you should use your fabulous crab pen holder as an identity mark!

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

I should bring him into play more - I always forget about it. -Mark

[@nightwolfs_den]

Re affiliate stuff OMG yes this so much. It did the whole round in the Mum blogging sphere a few years back where so many of us were approached and it was like, we won't pay you but we'll give you heaps of exposure in return for us giving you x and you doing y. Um no, exposure doesn't pay the bills. And then there was the whole legal disclosing if posts were sponsored and how you had to word it to cover your bum and certain companies not wanting sponsorship disclosure. It was messy. I always try and credit sticker and planner stores, never thought about crediting layout inspiration. Will make sure I do it from now :)

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

Affiliates and sponsored posts can get all sorts of messy, you are so right. I think it’s a mix of taking advantage of those who dont know and also some of the brands being held to such a high standard they need to cover all the bases. I respect those who have it locked down - because it feels more legit when it is. -mark

[@tsmith6250]

Planner Pals aka The Planner Dream Team. Thank you for all you do!

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

Haha most welcome! 😄

[@haleyr3028]

Never have I ever: bought stationary when on a buying freeze. Left a spread blank for the entire life of the journal. Forget to check the size/scale and regretted a purchase.

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

We all are going to be hydrated. HAHA

[@haleyr3028]

@@PlannerPalsPodcast Might need electrolytes near by. ;)

[@Financiallyfreeauthor]

On the other side of it I saw someone reacting to a great card someone had made. The original video had the person's logo on it the whole time and it was listed in the description. But there was a comment from someone saying "You didn't add anything, this is theft!"

[@alanatuttle]

Never have I ever pulled pages out of my journal even if they turned out awful

[@katlero28]

Ohhhh! Could you make the never have I ever “repercussion” be adding a dollar or $0.50 or something into a pot that goes to a charity at the end, like the PCRF?

[@Cora68]

Any time I share art, journal page etc. anywhere on social media I go the extra mile to find the original artist. When others don't, I comment with the name and/or a link to the original artist ("I love that too! It's made by XYZ Art - this is their website." or something like that). People have occasionally complimented me about it. That's nice, but it shouldn't be that special!

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

One of the good ones. - mark

[@andshereads]

Never have I ever jumped to a new bullet journal early because I was too impatient to finish out the one I'm currently in.

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

Siiiiiip

[@mooncraftbujo]

Never have I ever bought new journals when I already have a stack of unused ones 🥲

[@kittenandgoat]

It's all so complicated now days!!! As an artist of 30 years standing - we never had to cope with all this stuff!

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

I can't even imagine how hard it would be for people who are genuinely making their living from their art. So rough 😔

[@MainerChick]

Never have I ever bought a planner size I didn't use. Never have I ever printed my own inserts. Never have I ever had to give away notebook or planners to friends/family because I had too many.

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

Thanks for the prompts

[@emillyw5622]

Never have I ever recreated a theme from all the bullet journal videos I watch 😂, I use them as inspiration not for recreation personally

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

Thanks for the suggestion :-)

[@thejournalcorner]

Love how relevant your topics are! Content lawyer could cover rules over gifted/brand collabs etc maybe too? It’s not always clear is using one gifted pen in a reel that uses 20 I bought 🤔

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

Very interesting point, yeah! 🤔

[@caseybear4517]

Never have I ever held a grudge against a colleague for not returning a borrowed pen! 😅

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

Thank you ☺️

[@olympianagel9379]

never have i ever hoarded stationary bc i got too excited about it

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

So guilty of this -Mark

[@desktopnerd]

WRT watermarks, they will only deter the 'honest thieves'. You can have a car with an alarm and steering lock to deter theft but the determined thief will always find a way. All you can really do is take precautions and be prepared. It's a sad fact of online life.

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

This is very true! If they want it they will find a way to take it - Mark

[@amypoole30]

I feel like creators do a lot of work to get their videos out. If any part of it is reused by another creator or company, the bare minimum permission should be requested. I literally saw a creator of home organizing copy almost word for word another creators video. I told that creator right away. I am not a creator but I definitely try to watch out for the creators I follow. This is your business and how you support your households. Brands can be greedy (so to speak), but, if you guys put the work in (which is excellent work, i might add), you have every right to be properly compensated.

[@BNris]

Oh man, that sounds like an amazing episode idea! But def make sure it's water for your kidneys sake lol I gotta think about list ideas 🤔 Food for thought!

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

My bottle is ready 😂

[@annettefertitta6868]

Online artists should have an Ethics board!

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

Not a bad idea! 😝

[@Mongoly8]

Never have I ever used or bought washi tape

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

Thank you

[@Stacy_Scraps_Plans_Creates]

Never have I ever bought duplicate sticker books knowing I’ll never actually use up a whole sticker book so why I need two, I have no idea! 😂

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

Whoopsie -Mark

[@katharinawichmann8284]

Never have I ever sticked two pages together in a journal

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

Oh no…. -Mark

[@annettefertitta6868]

That’s a why many musicians don’t all audio or video recordings- it’s not that they don’t know want you to have a personal recording but they prefer that if someone is posting, it’s professional quality

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

Makes sense! 👏

[@desktopnerd]

Never have I ever... bought all the inks or pens in a collection just so I had the whole collection even if I don't like the whole collection.

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

Hahaha good one - Mark

[@pyenygren2299]

25:02 Yes please to a creator lawyer. 🙌

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

We’ll have to go find one 👀

[@cfodel]

Folks should think about copyright laws. If you are getting personal gain, you owe credit or payment to the original source!

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

100%

[@dancooper-jones]

I'm sorry Jess!! I didn't mean to make you sad. you did really well with the editing for such a long video!

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

It wasn’t you, it was me 😂 - Jess

[@dancooper-jones]

@@PlannerPalsPodcast it's a bad habit of mine to be inexplicable drawn to errors. Makes for a great previous job, not so great when you're just chilling out with youtube.

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

But great for reviewing course materials 😉 - Jess

[@dancooper-jones]

@@PlannerPalsPodcast 🤣🤣

[@AdyGrafovna]

I wonder, with AI having broad access to the internet, how laws around copyright have changed or are enforced.

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

Things will have to change for sure. Even at my full time job we are building rules around what you can and can’t do with photos - changing expressions etc. -Mark

[@nadjabauer9533]

I took an elective course in uni about copyright, so this was very interesting :) My main takeaways from that were - if you created something, you have the right to decide what happens to it/who uses it - lf someone is making money off of your work - you have to get some of that money (of course it's a more complex issue depending on the circumstances) (All of that applies to German law, so I am curious if things are different in other countries) I think the biggest problem with the internet is that it is such a big space that is really hard to control.

[@raelenepurtill1729]

Yes. Different copyright laws in Australia. In Australia copyright is automatic and free. If you create it, it’s yours. You cannot copyright ideas. But you can register trademark which is then protected. A creator has the right to attribution. You must seek permission and acknowledge.

[@Zahrah.M]

Never have I ever abandoned a notebook because the size or paper was driving me crazy 😝 Never have I ever had a notebook fall apart on me Never have I ever bullet journaled outside

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

Thank you

[@priyacray]

I know Jess doesnt seem like this kind of person to thrive on drama but I would love to hear more about the family issues and making it BESIDES all of that or maybe BECAUSE of it. Everytime my immediate family tries to do something/get ahead in life/celebrate a success, this whole can of worms opens. So much so that we've become a lot more secretive, keeping plans to ourselves, not seeking support, etc. from anyone. So would love to know more about how you have dealt with it. Maybe a video on alternate career choices/difficult career decisions etc?

[@SIMulatedSara]

Never have I ever owned a fountain pen 😆

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

Dead from too much water / drink - Mark

[@low8739]

It’s such a problem in the graphic design community. There are a few designers that I really love their styles. Most of them are small businesses. So we kind of watch out for each other. AI is becoming a big problem. We are trying to figure out how to use it and have our photos/designs protected at the same time. I hate Canva. I could talk about that forever. I have a question. When you traveled to Go Wild, how did you pack your planner supplies, and what did you pack?

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

It’s awesome that you are all looking out for one another. It can be really scary what people will just swipe from others. -mark

[@kristie3592]

So, this is a question more in the art space, but where is the line for recreating something in your own style? Where is the line between being inspired by someone else's art and downright theft? For instance, recreating the American gothic picture punk rockers? The picture is a direct "copy" but a completely different.

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

I think that if you are inspired by something and you recreate it you should give some credit somewhere, especially if you are sharing online. There is no hard in saying that you were inspired by this piece of work or style. - mark

[@pixypunkcraft]

Never have I ever set up a journal for the first month of a job only to be let go the very first day. Position redundant.

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

Oooof! That' d be super rough! 😔

[@JoyG-fg7qi]

never have i ever used 2 pages in a brand new journal and then never used the journal again.

[@cvvzdesigns]

If set-up video is being stolen people should look to the "Acne removal" community, where the big Asian channels have switched to logo stickers (usually small rounds) that fit over the thumb nail of the person whose hands are in the shot. Or it helps if you have scars that can be seen and proven as your own.... * looks at the burn scar between her index and thumb, where she accidentally touched a broiler coil, and the freckle on her index finger knuckle on the opposite hand * 😶‍🌫

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

Oh this is so interesting. Can’t get rid of that.

[@ElizabethRBain]

Shein and Temu are full of stolen designs. Sadly, so is etsy--and that's before you start looking at smaller creators because there is so much unauthorized use of characters and designs that are protected by copyright and trademark. Lawyers for the Mouse should be having a field day, given the potential penalties (under U.S. law) for knowingly ripping off protected stuff. As for reposting, well, sadly most social media has a built-in incentive to republish and to steal--and changing it just makes it a "derivative work" which is still theoretically protected by common law copyright--which is definitely infringement...but the whole platform is set up to encourage people to do this and make it easy. I suspect large brands hire young people to manage their social and they (the kids) don't think about the repercussions of just grabbing someone else's work because they don't think about it when they do it for their own accounts all the time. Paying in "exposure" is crap. (And yeah, a creator lawyer wouldn't be a bad idea...did you know that posting on facebook gives them the rights to use your content for free and license it to others without paying you?)

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

I think about the mouse all the time when I see those designs. I know that you can license them… but we all know that people are not going to do that if they can try to get away with it for free. -mark

[@annettefertitta6868]

This floors me… to think that The Beatles were once sued because a small portion of My Sweet Lord supposed to be stolen from He’s so fine - they sound nothing alike - now you see copies of people’s work stolen

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

I know right?!

[@annettefertitta6868]

It’s about to respect

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

100% agree 👏

[@joyceredman2136]

New "business people" applying for a business license should have to pass tests, highlighting reasons for license revoking, regarding violating intellectual property rights. Giving credit to the originator of the artwork, creativity, etc. should be standard. Document these incidences from repeat offenders and submit it to the equivalent of Maryland Department of Labor Licensing Regulations in the state that it occurred. This can't be a new thing given how long social media has existed. A bunch of you should band together to demand fines, license revoking, etc. I hope in the conventions you both attend give some guidance, help, and advice on what to do and how to proceed against violators. If not, put it as a comment on what you would like to see in the future. I really appreciate the comments below as it will help me avoid doing business with companies (thugs) that violate intellectual property laws.

[@AlyssaAlmeida-k9b]

I've done this but might be a fun one, never have I ever purchased stationary supplies second hand!

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

Oh interesting

[@annettefertitta6868]

I know that Jasshi is in New Zealand where are you located Mark?

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

I’m in Maryland in the Us

[@annettefertitta6868]

@@PlannerPalsPodcast super! Gulf Coast here

[@annettefertitta6868]

When does the Podcast start live?

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

It gets posted every two weeks between 2am and 3am NZT, but the live recordings happen a little earlier so that we can chop out all the parts where we stuff up our wording and whatnot 😝

[@juliettemathier]

Never have I ever paused a KZbin video on my tv, opened the app on my phone to find the link(s) to products used and ordered immediately ^^ Also: I was laughing so hard when I was even quicker than Jess about the Coke Zero „mascot item“ 😂 Tink! 😉 Again such a great episode! Thanks a lot! (Not sure though, if I ever actually commented before or just had conversations in my brain 😅🙈)

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

Haha 😂 One day Senpai Cola will notice me 😝 - Jess

[@pyenygren2299]

27:06 Affiliate programs is a good video idea.

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

Adding it to the list! 💪

[@PeggyPitti]

It's the nature of online. Once you put it out thre without copyright protection you are essentially giving your stuff away. Nothing you can do about it. How do you think places like Temu are even in business. You can't trust anyone. Having blind faith in total strangers is naive.

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

So true. It’s hard to share when you think it will be taken advantage of - but also you want to share and inspire too. - Mark

[@cvvzdesigns]

Genuine 'never': Never have I ever accidentally cut the paper too close to the thread (or the thread itself). Never have I ever squealed like a fan girl (since conquering puberty) when meeting someone I admire. Never have I ever signed a brand agreement that I later truly regretted. Never have I ever treated a product like the printer in Office Space.... Okay, that one I need to drink on. I curb stomped the crap out of that fax machine.

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

Oh my goodness. That would be so fun 📠

[@cvvzdesigns]

@@PlannerPalsPodcast The catharsis it brought was almost "you-know-what"mic. 🤯

[@TheApplesauce1992]

I tell people to watermark, but it sucks. You shouldn't have to watermark the shit out of your own piece... but you do.

[@PlannerPalsPodcast]

Agreed 👏 It's a shame it's got to be that way 😅