The Silent Truth About Mythic Legions

[@father_son_galaxy]

I fairly recently fell down the mythic legions rabbit hole mostly because i enjoy customizing them but agree 💯 the articulation blows. Don't know why that bothers some people to hear.

[@ArticulatedNinja]

Thanks for not being close minded about the matter galaxy yes some people cannot hear anything other than praise for something they like. To some there's no room for improvement at all, which is pretty sad.

[@benk2673]

@@ArticulatedNinja Improvement is subjective though. If they, or really any company, believe that they should or shouldn't include certain things, like articulation or soft goods, because of their philosophy, that's fine. You can want certain things but to say that they MUST do something is a bit selfish and self-aggrandizing.

[@__TW__]

i agree that the articulation ins't the greatest, but it will probably be more than sufficient for 99% of the people. Most people dont continuously pose them in rediculous poses.

[@ryanparis6539]

I don’t agree that would be improved. You put a gymnast in a suit of armour they can’t pose much. Also it makes sense for a super hero or ninja to be flexible. But an orc in Lord Of The Rings type attire doesn’t need to be dynamic. I personally am not into articulation cuts. I hate the look. I don’t want my toy to look like a toy. It is ok that we are different. I appreciate your videos and opinion. But it is ok to be different

[@ryanparis6539]

I don’t agree that would be improved. You put a gymnast in a suit of armour they can’t pose much. Also it makes sense for a super hero or ninja to be flexible. But an orc in Lord Of The Rings type attire doesn’t need to be dynamic. I personally am not into articulation cuts. I hate the look. I don’t want my toy to look like a toy. It is ok that we are different. I appreciate your videos and opinion. But it is ok to be different

[@FridayOneEye]

I don't even think it's part swapping anymore. I think they've built a library of parts, and if they updated the figures to modern articulation they'd need to basically throw out 3/4ths of it. It's probably not financially viable for them to do that at this point, and would be almost at the commitment level of launching a full new line. So we're stuck with great looking figures that pose like they really overdid it at the gym the day before.

[@ArticulatedNinja]

🤣🤣 good point and reference

[@fujishig]

Right. I heard they were thinking about going with Glyos originally, so it makes sense they prioritized easy customization/pop and swap, but even the Valiant Knight is basically carefully done to allow pop and swap with older figures. That being said they could probably at least sacrifice knee/elbow swapping and update the limbs. That said I don't think many are going into Mythic Legions expecting modern articulation, and there is something to be said about the sculpt not being broken up as much. I mean I think DC Classics still hold up as far as looks go.

[@FridayOneEye]

@@fujishig personally I don't need full, modern articulation on them, but I do need more than what they provide. Because of that I've only got a few ML, where the sculpt and paint job really come together and pop into something awesome. Random knights and what not aren't enough. Having said that, I haven't fiddled with the valiant knight yet. Maybe he gets over the bar.

[@PunkIsNotDead]

Even before I watch the video I'm going to asume it's the articulation.

[@ArticulatedNinja]

🤣

[@TMan978]

I hate it when I'm complaining about articulation and people tell me that certain parts of articulation aren't necessary. One guy told me that boot swivel or ankle swivel isn't necessary and then showed me pictures of his display and everybody was standing like a static statue so I was like, "looking at your poses, we shouldn't even be talking"

[@epiclvlpurple19]

Facts 😂

[@ArticulatedNinja]

I mean I guess it's not necessary when all you gonna do is leave em in 1 standing pose (like a statue) 😂🤣

[@xcorpeo]

If u use maximum ankle pivot range, u'll understand calf swivel. If u don't, u don't. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@johnlant1730]

Ah Tman. Yes I know you are a real stickler for articulation. Bad articulation really chaps your ass. lol

[@ESB82413]

😂 ninja woke up and chose violence today

[@Christo-pv7eb]

I mentioned in a chat awhile back about adding bicep swivel,double joints,and everyone went nuts on how wrong I was. They’re good, but definitely can use better articulation.

[@ArticulatedNinja]

I'm not surprised people went nuts over a suggestion some people defend feelings and not facts.

[@billybeigecustoms]

Ill say it. They're not action figures, they're designer figures. Theyre how 4H want to design them, they sell well enough to keep making them, and they have a ton of new sculpts and parts coming out in waves that are in production. No matter how much anyone wants them to be modernized or like another line. 4H are going to keep doing what sells to their main customer base. And have fun doing it.

[@thechosenone000]

It's ok to do their own thing but its VERY side-eye to say "oh we're not making action figures buddy, this is a designer figure". Savage Crucible is making action figures. XesRey is making action figures. All the studios churning out Warcraft figures right now are making action figures. 4H doesn't get to side step the category because they want to make the same thing they've been making since MOTU Mattel days.

[@bodydoublesecurity4987]

Yeah it's like when folks complain about Amazing Yamaguchi not looking good in a vanilla pose. 🤣😂🤣 Also, these are NOT premium priced figures. That's Mafex and Shfiguarts territory.

[@EricCKeys]

​@thechosenone000 so Xesray is making action figures but the 4HM are not? Have you played with them side by side? The new wave of Xesray (which I reviewed), are just as articulated as any new Legion. The Valiant Knight gets better posing than any of the new Xesray figures. Keep in mind that I love them all.

[@ArticulatedNinja]

@billybeigecustoms 😂 "designer figures" guess they are not action figures please ignore everything I said in the video then my bad I thought they was action figures 😂🤣. Is there no room for improvement on "designer figures" though (just asking)

[@billybeigecustoms]

@ArticulatedNinja have you ever messed glyos figures? Designer action figures, articulated, use a lot of the same parts with repaints, do limited drops and preorders. That's what this line was made to be. Originally they were going to be in that 3 3/4" - 4" scale. Even use the Glyos joint/peg system. Luckily for 1/12 fans the cost to make them in a larger scale was the same. So after re-engineering some to add hinges into places that were Originally just swivel pegs, we got 1.0 mythic legions figures and the framework for how 4H want their figures to be. Like Glyos. A fun designer figure you can mix with any figure from the line. I know you love articulation, you might even really love legions, but why would want to change basically the founding idea of a line you love, to be like everybody else? Being different is ok.

[@maddrop]

You are right. I always get heat when i state those facts, to my mythic legions friends, but for the price we should be getting more and better. I kept 6 figures and sold the rest.

[@ArticulatedNinja]

Thanks for sharing yea hopefully they continue improving articulation because they definitely need 2

[@beej5]

Which ones did you keep?

[@maddrop]

@@beej5 a Forest Troll, Ice Troll,2 Vitus,Duban and Bolthor. I have them in my Neca D&D display

[@diezellfit1809]

This is why I dont like Super7. Shitty articulation for expensive figures is a no go for me.

[@ArticulatedNinja]

It's a no go for most of us zel you not alone 🔥

[@flashbackmaki8896]

Super7 figures are normally clearance figures....

[@nerdraged411]

The real kick in the nuts is the video they livestreamed hand-waving away complaints about figures being super fragile and breaking right out of the box, nevermind the dated level of articulation. Def overpriced and an obvious lack of desire to improve anything.

[@thechosenone000]

The Thrace legs one... That made me mad. They were such jerks about $40 figures breaking. It took 72 days to get a replacement leg in the mail for me.

[@raymondz7152]

It's almost as if they feel. " We've already got your money who cares what you think"

[@Uguguabbabaa]

Yeah I assumed this is what the video was gonna be about, I don't collect 4H but even I heard about that mess.

[@NickDoobs]

Articulation could definitely be better, but it doesn't bother me too much. I'm more into customizing than photography and posing. More joints means more paint rubs on customs. The constant re-use of parts bothers me more than lack of articulation.

[@ArticulatedNinja]

True reuse since they been keeping things the same for the most part for the last 5 years. Just different colors .

[@NickDoobs]

@@ArticulatedNinja This is a great topic bringing in lots of comments. It's hilarious to me when people get so excited over part swaps and paint variants. Figura Obscura is an exception though. They've been coming with lots of new parts.

[@xeanheart]

It's the same reasoning as to why I critique the hips on the 3.0 Dragon Ball SHFs. You lose alot of pose-ability in the legs for... a butt that doesn't even make the figure look any better. That more and more companies seem to be going this route(like many MAFEX figures), worries me.

[@ArticulatedNinja]

Good point

[@maybetoby]

I agree with you on the double jointed knees and elbows. But if I don't mind that it's missing, that doesn't mean I'd rather have a statue lol

[@maybetoby]

@@metamorphomisk I don't think he's close-minded.

[@hammertronactionfigures2426]

That special knight they recently released was probably their initial foray into more articulation. It's probably expensive, but they can incorporate more articulation into their line over time. Hopefully they remain sucessful because their designs are great.

[@ArticulatedNinja]

Yes design are great just the function isn't. Focusing on mainly Designs and sculpts are great for statutes not so much for figures.

[@MorbidThrasher666]

They did reuse and imcorporate the Valiant Knights artuculate limbs now for the 2 2025 Knights coming out.

[@NecroGroovy]

Dawg as soon as I heard ur take on articulation over detail I was quickly reminded why I'm a channel member 🗣️SPIT YO TRUTH KING🔥🔥🔥

[@ArticulatedNinja]

I appreciate that! 🙏🏾 Thank you

[@arthurchen6464]

I donno. People who love them love them. I think it's just a different collector base. Some people don't like the kind of comprehensive articulations we want. Some just want movable figures with great sculpt and great paint, and I guess 4HM's got them.

[@ArticulatedNinja]

Sure but they are no longer the only company around offering knights and mythical creatures I like them but just because they have a base doesn't mean they can't improve or they may still be selling the same 2011 articulation in 2030 who knows lol.

[@arthurchen6464]

@@ArticulatedNinja Yeah, objectively they definitely should be looking to improve. At least in a way that doesn't upset their existing core base of fans who want sculpt over articulation. I donno if they've tried to ask their fans if they want changes to the figures, but if they're smart, they would be doing constant surveys and get feedback via other ways too.

[@ps90tacguy]

I just bought one of the Mythic Legions Dwarfs. I think for me the price was very good for the detail of the figure. I bought the figure to decorate mt Hero Quest Wall. I hope to find a Elf for the wall that my wife likes.

[@micklestapler4]

I tried using Mythic (as well as Cosmic and Obscura) Legions for my stop motion videos and found out very quickly that was gonna be Alot more difficult then first thought. I tried to create a sword fight between two knights and it just looked awkward. I've recently discovered Mezco figures and my god it's night and day difference. Yes Mezco has its own issues but in my experience they work Alot better for my needs. I've recently bought John Constantine and Gotham by Gaslight Joker for a stop motion video I'm working on and couldn't be Happier. Great video Ninja, Alot good points. Take care

[@Collect2Disconnect]

💯

[@ArticulatedNinja]

Yikes yea using mythic legions for stop motion will be extremely limited as you found out awesome you found work arounds in other brands though.

[@micklestapler4]

@@Collect2Disconnect Hey my dude lol what's good Collect hope your well my friend. I have a new detective story I've been working on (I built all the dioramas myself) and it's coming along, I'd love to hear what you think. Great to hear from you Collect 2 Disconnect, take care my friend 🙏

[@micklestapler4]

@@ArticulatedNinja thanks man 🙏 really appreciated you speaking on this topic. I've been yelled at a plenty for stating generally the same thing lol we collectors can be a touchy bunch. Thanks for the reply Ninja take care my dude

[@starlord157]

Their reasoning isn’t because it’s sculpt… it’s actually even stupider. They claim that their number one priority is customization. So it’s like a super expensive MOTU origins figure.

[@starlord157]

Oops, just got to the part where you cover this. I’m pretty sure we all know the actual reason, lack of toy design knowledge, and laziness. Why change something that already sells?

[@ArticulatedNinja]

🤣 exactly starlord why improve the meal in 2024 when people will continue to eat the same meal from 2008 thanks for supporting

[@frankschuler2867]

I only have a couple of their troop builder figures (a little goblin and a little skeleton). I am happy with the materials, accessories and the sculpts and really don't have any complaints about them. The articulation is definitely limited and it would be nice to have more range, but it is what it is and it isn't a dealbreaker for me personally. I got them because I really do like the looks and they are capable of some basic poses. Sometimes, for me, figures look so good that I'm willing to forego some articulation range or other features. I'm just not as much of an articulation junkie as some people, but I definitely understand the desire.

[@ArticulatedNinja]

Yea I'm a articulation junkie I guess lol but it's because I do photography and play with my figures if I just put them on a shelf and never touched them then it wouldn't matter they are as good as a statue at that point. But I hear you if posing isn't a big deal then yes just for looks they got that area down packed.

[@frankschuler2867]

@@ArticulatedNinja Good points! Likewise, if I grab a figure off the shelf to play with or take pics of, I pretty much always grab one that can hit some poses. It's really satisfying when a figure can hit the kinds of poses that a real human ought to be able to do.

[@sillypolplays]

I had my fair share of mythic legions and sold most of it and just left 2. I love the sculpts and swapping parts but I hit a wall with its articulation. At first it was "okay" but soon after, I can't get the figure the poses I want to shoot. So , I decided to switch to jada instead.

[@chicomac8450]

I only have like 3 Legions but Why not just let people be happy with whatever they collect? Yes, articulation is always king. But if the true fans of the line are happy with it as is, why not just let them be? For 4H to still be up and running, they’re clearly doing something right with their fans. No one is saying “the articulation is perfect”. But the fans are just happy with it as is. No need to tell them to collect statues or criticize 4H for being “15 years behind.” Let them do their thing. Just like Hasbro/Mattel/Tamashii/etc do their thing. If you don’t like it, don’t collect it. You can critique it but be respectful.

[@BlotHemmingsworth]

I agree with you 100%. Your pictures alone sell them, though. They look cool. I think the Horsemen are more consumer focused more than most toy companies. Like, you can preorder and buy at a discount, or you can just wait and get the same figure a little more, but if you enjoy them, you can get them cheaper by just supporting the small team with a Mezco style preorder at a non-Mezco price. You've proved you can make a good display with limited articulation in this video alone with your skill. From my experience, with no extra monetary value my collection has with things like KZbin, a good collection just gets a glance from random folks anyways. Anibus chilling in the chair alone looks good and anyone with your accessories would be happy with it. You can get a statue that looks like that at the same price point of both figures, but you have control of the Horsemen figures if you're bored. Figures with a limit that is just your imagination is what Four Horsemen exceeds at and I think Legions fuels imagination even when nobody else in your life cares. Hasbro will sell a slightly off figure that you want just to sell you the same figure again with a figure that you want. The price is different for sure, but the Horsemen don't treat you like a stupid consumer. If you don't want it, don't buy it. You want some random Egyptian Gods with real-life accessories, go for it. If you don't like it, it doesn't matter. You want a popular Legions figure that's at scalper prices? Just wait, they noticed, and will sell you the same figure at a fair price later. The aftermarket have crazy weird prices, but people who just collect for profit can go screw themselves anyway. If you're in love with a figure, there's usually an easy way to get it with Legions through Discord and Facebook. Legions play with FOMO, but what other toy line plays with FOMO with a guaranteed way to get something different later after you have time to think? I think that's why they're cool. I just own 5 Legion figures so maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. They're detailed and most collectors probably spent more on a line that just sits in totes now, even with amazing articulation.

[@ShaolinRickGeek]

Thanks for your video, I think the same, I love my FH Sunwukong, but hate to pose it, it's a martial art master and he can't even crouch not even make a split... I'll soon receive the swk front fury toys to compare and review them, articulations will be a big topic, thanks again

[@ArticulatedNinja]

Fury toys will most likely destroy them in articulation 🤔

[@SymbioteSeeker]

"go collect statues" me when someone tells me they don't prep there customs😂

[@ArticulatedNinja]

🤣😂

[@kieranemond]

They are not for everyone, and thats okay

[@drecolizo1]

I absolutely love the concept of being about to pop and swap parts, being able to essentially RPG built as a novice. He's the thing about them using the excuse for why they don't update the articulation. The observation is overseas and it's from an established company. Just look at the engineering of Mafex figures. Unlike domestic lines, the joints are separate parts from the character molds. Having 2 Spider-Mann figures or any combination of female figure I can swap the shoulders, the necks, the biceps, the feet, the abdomen, etc. It's not even something they were designed to do and yet if I did the articulation wouldn't be sacrificed. The CAN make updated bodies still compatible with the heads, hands, feet, peg in parts and waist accessories. They don't because everyone who collects them enough to go to Legions Con isn't concerned with articulation. In fact, a lot of them will complain about the improvement.

[@ArticulatedNinja]

I believe it why improve something when the same product will keep selling for 10 plus years

[@drecolizo1]

@@ArticulatedNinja couldn't have said it any more elegantly myself, Ninja.

[@codenamesilentg]

I totally agree, I love the line, but definitely they are form over function, and many other lines have shown both are possible. Thanks, and keep up the great content.

[@ArticulatedNinja]

FORM OVER FUNCTION very well worded G thanks I will add that to my ever growing vocabulary

[@cyberfrank-bx2nv]

great commentary video bro you make your point solid as rock encased in logic and you remind me all the time in your videos why you re so cool to watch, the poses... I love how I never know what to expect, what cross overs you will do, always looking fab! and those video clips, D I posted this comment on Hasbro pulse I think art should have a bigger place in the community fan posing, dios, pic montages and movies so I thought of a cool and cheap way. Irwin in the 80s came up with a construction kit plastic panels, but the genius was the beams and universal joints one could slide cardboard panels in the beams grooves, and lock with the joints once you have a 'framed' panel, you can combine them to do any kind of box - building introduction to the system I d see a 'build a figure' type of intro here provide 10' x 10' cardboard panels dio background 4 beams and joints once all figs are yours, you have a complete dio - room but.... I d sell kits of beams & joints separately too, cheap 1 10 x 10 panel - door frame cut 1 10 x 10' panel window cut to break the ice, and inspire the beauty is the standard.... in conventions, fans can add - complement each other s bases, cities, manufactures, anything! shelving figures is so sad when they cry so much for action! ha, ha roof - defence cardboard panels panels that have a round cut to rotate turrets - radars I d go C & C defences, all factions - standard cheap turrets gattlings, missiles, lasers, cannons, ect hole and turret bases standard could be used 'stand alone' since the cardboard panel is 'framed' solid to the ground - stable do not ask what Hasbro, the community can do for you... ask yourself what you can do for Hasbro and the community God bless America and world peace! so now you know... good luck in your mission team what do you think?

[@ArticulatedNinja]

Well worded thanks for sharing , personally I think those guys over there at the top don't really take advice or recommendations no matter how sound and great the advice is. They only focus on numbers and once sales decline is when they choose to listen but if everything over at Hasbro is running smoothly they don't really care.

[@cyberfrank-bx2nv]

@@ArticulatedNinja ha, ha, thanks bro, I m sure you re right, but I m only starting my campaign, it s in it s infancy, I knew you d be interested as an artist. and things change. thanks!

[@cyberfrank-bx2nv]

@@ArticulatedNinja you know their habit well, but I see you re a guy like me, you want evolution, you re not satisfied with the current trend, D, as an artist, I see and sense it in your pieces - poses, you re a trekkie at heart, 'go where no one has gone before' an adventurer, a Joe... ha, ha. same here bro, and we shake things up, I m very persistent, one fig to the next will just not do for guys like us, we deserve a better world, and we re going to have it! thanks bro

[@Batmikeman]

Oh man you are saying exactly what I have been saying I do love the mythic legion figures but man they really really really could have better articulation and I am all about articulation over looks so you're exactly right and I'm glad somebody finally said it so thank you also I love you videos man keep it up

[@trence5]

I LOVE the line I do. It's allowed to kit-bash, almost, a character from my head BUT - I would like him, and most of my figures, to DOUBLE hold their weapon, particularly the sword, and that does annoy me. I'm keep my eye on this Savage Crucible line though.

[@ArticulatedNinja]

Yea majority of their characters are sword holding characters that struggle to get both hands on the sword in most poses. I agree 💯 percent.

[@judgejase7583]

I agree with you 100% Sir. Having bought a fair few of the Mythic Legions & Cosmic Legions, they all lack a HIGH degree of bend in all joints (especially elbows, knees etc). That said, the Cosmic Legions are adequate ... just. I contacted the Horsemen suggesting increased articulation & they kindly replied saying they were continually working to improve their articulation & took my suggestions on board. Another problem is "distribution" eg: those Egyptian God sets were a no go for me to acquire.

[@MongoThinks]

Last Mythic Legion I picked up was the big blue dragon, Arracagor. Beautiful paint and sculpt, but the articulation was rough especially next to the Xes Rey Minotaur and Storm Collectibles Goro. Right now I feel like taking a break from them until the bear comes out.

[@ArticulatedNinja]

Facts mongo yea comparing them to any Asian based company will definitely result in mythic legions losing overall.

[@predpool2425]

Here is my opinion on this. They pretty much were the only ones for a long time doing the whole fantasy type with barbarian, knights, and creatures. So only option. Sure we had/have MOTU. But that mixes fantasy with technology, plus a comic/cartoony look. Today, as you mentioned, we have now Savage Crucible doing what we been wanting. Other companies like Loose Collector and Boss Fight studios have potential but need up their game in more figures. And last but not least, the companies that we find in 5k Toys that are also showing how it can be done. If 4H does not up their game, their prior monopoly they had will be all but gone.

[@SP8inc]

They are still the only ones doing knights unfortunately. I love mythic legions, but I can never have enough knights! I wish more companies had the balls to do knights.

[@predpool2425]

@SP8inc I saw a few at 5K toys you may want to check out. Granted, they are pricier. Maybe Savage Crucible might do some in 4th or 5th wave. I'm more for the barbarian and gladiators .

[@NerdRahtio]

Even if they insist on single joint elbows, Star Wars black series has shown you can get more than 90 degrees. Also elbow and knees don’t impact the most important swap points. The swap and pop isn’t enough of an excuse to keep things as they are.

[@Lurklen]

That's fair, knee and elbow should affect swapping. Might affect structure and paint wear, and increase breakage, but it might not if they figure out how to do it well. And I agree, other lines have figured out how to do more than 90 with single joints and look good.

[@SamuraiMotoko]

How much the price rise if they "fix " the articulation

[@ArticulatedNinja]

Good point lol idk

[@Gian4455]

I totally agree with you on regards of articulation. I have almost stopped getting black series figures because the articulation is super outdated. I have been tempted to get some Mythic Legions and the articulation has been the stopper. I cannot justify paying their price without the figures at least having full range articulation...

[@Woody_222]

Definitely agree with a lot of the points you made, bro . I don’t collect mythic legions, but I see all your points in this argument . Keep spitting truth ninja & always keeping it 💯✌🏽out fam

[@redboone1509]

Speaking of articulation, I got my first figma yesterday and I love her articulation. She is so small and extremely articulated. I could actually get her into a locked in triangle choke pose. That's definitely a first for me

[@Vintage-Bob]

I don't even see an option to order these Egyptian figures on their site! Where is the link to buy?

[@findmyfigures1221]

It was a two day sale. Now the figures will solely be available at conventions

[@Vintage-Bob]

@@findmyfigures1221 These small companies are pathetic when they make their products unavailable. That's why the reliable big players like Hasbro get my money and not these dinky little companies.

[@Vintage-Bob]

@@findmyfigures1221 These small companies are pathetic when they make their products unavailable. That's why the reliable big players like Hasbro get my money and not these dinky little companies.

[@Vintage-Bob]

@@findmyfigures1221 These small companies are pathetic when they make their products unavailable. That's why the reliable big players like Hasbro get my money and not these dinky little companies.

[@Vintage-Bob]

@@findmyfigures1221 See, that's why I don't support many of these companies.

[@Xô_Bitor]

I collect Mythic Legions and I agree with you. When I show the figures to non-collecting people they say the figures look pieces of art. I don't customize and I feel the articulation is very limited. I started cosmic legions but qc issues and articulation was so bad that I sold all those figures. I hope they keep doing a great job but improve in that department.

[@BroGuy_Jesse]

You're 100% right, I've gotten hate before telling people that I believe mythic legions articulation is dated. And I know I've spent over $1000 dollars on the lines, there's not many companies that do medieval fantasy, especially Knights. But ever since axytoys dinosaur battleground and Savage crucible lizardman I have options, and hell even warriors of the animal kingdom series 2 lionesses and lizardmen look pretty good as well. And I never thought I'd say that about that line.

[@ArticulatedNinja]

Facts Jesse 🔥

[@mikerandy843]

I can definitely respect your opinion. I believe it just really depends on the type of collector you are. Some of us love to customize, paint, part swap, etc. Others like to actually play with, pose, and photograph. Neither collector is better than the other, just different strokes for different folks. That being said, more articulation would be great, but if that means more paint rubs, worse sculpts, loose, bendable, and/or warpable parts, I'm fine the way they are. I recently visited the Savage Crucible venue at Comicpalooza down here in Houston. The paint apps and articulation were great., but in my honest opinion, the lizard figures did feel a bit loose and/or less sturdy. We were not allowed to touch the newer human wave, but they did look good. There was also an Animal Kingdom vendor next to Savage Crucible. With all due respect, the Animal Kingdom line looks cheap when compared to Mythic Legions. The Savage Crucible line is a step above in looks, but the feel is just a bit off for me. The owner of Savage Crucible was extremely nice, and full of info. I'm not really into lizards so I didn't make a purchase. The old me in a better economy would have just purchased something because he was so nice. Those other green orcs you showed, while the articulation is wayyy better, they just don't look as good. If they don't look good in video, it only gets worse in person. Those werewolves you always show look phenomenal but for a long time collector like me, and after seeing Animal Kingdom up close and feeling Savage Crucible in hand, I am definitely going to find it difficult to make blind purchases on line ever again. As always, love your channel and respect your opinions. Your arguments are definitely valid.

[@J.dioramas]

I see mythic legion at friends toy store, but never bought one so thanks for letting us know what it is

[@theoriginaljtp]

Bottom line is that they are successful, and their fans / collectors really love figures. I really enjoy the line and I find the articulation acceptable for what you get. I pick up the ones I like, and I have not been disappointed. Every line is different and speaks to different collectors. Personally, I don't need every line I collect to be super articulated. Will they make strides towards more articulation eventually, maybe. But that will mean new tooling, new sculpts, and most likely higher price points.

[@ArticulatedNinja]

No one's denying their success but it's no longer 10 years ago when they was the only ones to corner the mythical market. Also no one is asking for "super" articulation found in Asian companies like figuarts, mafex, figma revoltech ect) just the bare minimum average in America in 2024. Almost all American based companies in this day and age have at least double hinge not single, boot swivel , bicep swivel and butterfly joints.

[@theoriginaljtp]

@ArticulatedNinja it's true their articulation is lacking compared to current standards, but being as successful as they are with such a large loyal customer base, there is really no sense of urgency to change what they are doing. They've made a few baby steps with some recent figs, but I think it'll be a while until we see bigger changes if we do at all. I don't think the next year or so in pre-orders shows any real changes in the articulation.

[@raymondz7152]

I really enjoy your video. I'm now a subscriber. You said everything I feel like I can't say. The cabal is a very hostile place if you're not just patting everybody on the back and telling them how great they are. These figures are absolutely stunning but like you say when it comes to articulation they blow goats

[@ArticulatedNinja]

Thank you yes looks like you are right about the cabal at this point as well the figures do look beautiful but suck in articulation

[@uncardedreviews9721]

I dig Mythic Legions just the way they are 🤷 It's just the way they chose to engineer their product. Same with Mcfarlane toys. I buy/collect Mythic Legions mostly for the look of the characters and the paint/sculpt details and soft goods. There's so many other figure options in the market right now that if one brand doesn't offer the options I want, I just buy something else. And when all else fails, I kitbash and customize it to my liking 👍 I agree with your observations 💯 but personally I just don't have the time to focus on what something could be and instead I make it into what I need 👏

[@ArticulatedNinja]

I agree and I hear I'm in the opposite crowd I don't have the time to always have to make something into what I need I like It to be what I need right out the box 😁 for me it's 2024 single joint hinges on standard figures just doesn't cut it and almost every other company knows it.

[@LEP006]

​@@ArticulatedNinja they are pissed that you have a following and a voice to state the obvious ..someone share your link to this video in a Mythic legions group and you could feel the hate on that post..it was like how dare you Question our fine and poor articulation ...when anyone brings up a conversion about better articulation they remove peoples post out of Mythic legions groups

[@epiclvlpurple19]

100% AGREE!!! This is why Mafex is so great. They have IMO the perfect balance of great sculpt and articulation. They have found that sweet spot and continue to drop amazing figures.

[@SylenceEturnal]

Mafex has good paint apps but in terms of articulation they're basically just Legends and McFarlane DC for triple the price. The majority of their characters have great articulation because they have no costume impediments. And the armored figures from their Star Wars line have all of the same outfit limitations that the Mythics characters do but for a much higher price point. I think the only thing Mafex excels in is quality of plastic - which that and the use of some soft goods here and there is why they're so expensive.

[@derricksimmons9057]

Even with the lack of articulation compared to other lines their sculpt & ability to customize is what got us hooked.

[@davidmoon2121]

Well spoken and spot on! It is difficult for me to justify spending the amount of money ML asks when you know you are not getting the BEST value for your dollar no matter how amazing the sculpts/paints/details are. To me spending on 2-3 Valaverse/Legions/Classics is gratifying and I already love the characters. After seeing your review on Savage Crucibles I was all in and ordered everything I could from what remained of wave 1. I do agree that 4H are satisfied with their line and they do sell well and are building a Universe of so many characters that the cost of re-tooling to improve knees elbows and shoulders isn't cost effective for them. (Can't explain their animals, they just lucked out on those and got it right). Another line with the very same issue is MacFarlane. He won't the PINS. WHYYYYYYY! Cost plain and simple besides he cranks out 200 characters a year and they get bought each several times. Look at Mercari and see how many new posts hit their daily! It's KRAY-ZEEEE!. But? We still buy them.

[@gapzero]

I find Mythic Legions figures head a bit big, was it their design choice? And the long pre-order release also bugs me a bit.

[@ArticulatedNinja]

True I didn't wanna speak on other topics like that or QC but I agree they all have heads really big , really shows on the females.

[@michaelvaldez5993]

I don't have any Mythic Legion figures but they look nice, especially the horses. I'm thinking about buying a couple of them. Are they worth it?

[@thechosenone000]

They're fine, I don't regret any of the purchases, but go in with the right expectations. You get a lot of accessories (usually), and pretty nice paint but you sacrifice a lot of articulation.

[@robzamora79]

Take a shot of your favorite poison everytime ninja mentions how old the articulation is in the video or in the comments. Double shots for when he starts signing off key.

[@ItsTimeToPull]

Glad that you made this video. That was the main thing that made me sell the Legions I had and deter me from buying so many that I otherwise would have. Hopefully they can start making a change. Double jointed limbs at least to start with

[@thepaulzack]

It's great to hear someone,not afraid to tackle the articulation issues, with Legions. There are far too many shills & youtubers that kiss the Horsemen's behinds. I love the line too, but the Valiant Knight definitely showed the progress that can be/should be made in their articulation. Alot of great points made in your video. Some were repetitions of the same point, though.

[@Rob1n_13]

Hey bro nice point of view. I dont see anyone talk about this. May you tell me which figure did you show in the art of the video? The one with dark short hair next to anubis.

[@jsIsup]

Looks like betty page cleopatra action figure form dark horse with marvel legends quake head

[@edbraun383]

I agree with everything. I appreciate your articulation argument and how you really hammer on it. Hopefully Four Horsemen get the memo.

[@FigureFever]

I completely understand Articulated Ninja. I can be very finicky when it comes to articulation. Maybe, Mythic Legions might consider doing a 2.0 in the near future for these 2 characters with upgraded articulation.

[@ArticulatedNinja]

True fever 2.0 with minor updates in articulation I think will do the company very well

[@the45thlyric]

This is the main reason why I don't buy them. When I look at the reviews the articulation doesn't match the price point. I do have their Monkey King on pre-order as that's one of my favorite characters, but that's an exception to my rule. Maybe it will open me up to more of their figures.

[@calebgalbraith33]

I get two all ins plus every wave and I could not agree more!! Preach!!

[@EyeSurpri]

I've noticed with a majority of my Mythic Legions purchases have a collective problem: super loose joints. Because of this, I've stopped purchasing their line. But sometimes, I'm sorely tempted.

[@henryjosephsarmiento8568]

100% agree, 4H needs to step up, they would DOMINATE if they have ML-level articulation while maintaining sculpt and paint!

[@ArticulatedNinja]

Yes they would dominate but it's cool if they don't someone else will.

[@superman27344]

I agree 100% percent. I have legions and like the ones I have, but since there is no real updates in articulation the line has ran its course for me.

[@elizabethiori9289]

I don’t have any legions… there has been a few that I was like “I want that!” Then I realized that they are older and stupid expensive now. So no mythic legions.

[@Weremoogle]

I have three. Almost have to preorder them to get them, and comparatively they're expensive.

[@ArticulatedNinja]

Yes I enjoy their older design more as well

[@CrossupCorsair]

They addressed this on the last livestream. Mythic Legions are what they are, and people are expecting the line to be something it isn't. I got into the line to pop and swap the figures, and now I'm getting into painting. They're never going to be highly articulated figures, and people need to stop expecting them to change that.

[@ArticulatedNinja]

Oh ok I guess if you get in into a line In 2015 even in 2025 dnt expect them to grow change or innovate much they should just stay the same 🤣. Sounds ridiculous all lines grow and change over time or they get left behind the valiant knight is a clear example that they care about changing over time.

[@CrossupCorsair]

@@ArticulatedNinja There's quite a large difference between the changes in a Valiant Knight, and adding butterfly or double joints to all of the molds. There's also the matter of comparing Four Horsemen Studios to Hasbro, Mythic Legions have always been about part reuse because it helps save on costs. If they switch to double joints now, then all of their other molds they've made were for nothing.

[@paleontologygodzilla2031]

I really like Mythic Legions. Their figures have great sculpts and paint, and they are great for customs. But I do agree, their figures would heavily improve with some double jointed arms and legs, more neck articulation, and definitely butterfly joints.

[@thechosenone000]

There's a huge legion issue that I think is even more untalked about and its not the figures. The figures are fine, I've been buying all-ins plus extras since 2020. They're fine, B+ and A- figures. The issue is that roughly 10 of the fan base that will TEAR YOU APART for talking bad about the figures. They just teased a wave and people are saying they're not excited about it or only a handful of them. People in their semi-official FB group, people that actively buy a ton of their figures. And the Mythic cultists rip them to shreds in their passive-aggressive dad jam-band way. Its so insane. I hate this subset of fans so much that the all-in plus extras I was going to buy for this wave i'm just not. Not now from them direct, maybe not at all. They're miserable

[@rhysslade5393]

As someone who only collects Mythics as there toy line, The fan base is incredible toxic & I can't stand the constant reuse of parts, or getting 8-10 new parts every 3 or so ways and the fan base just excusing this, it's pretty lazy honestly

[@richardch.4356]

2:37 thats funny because even with Joytoy figures i collect a lot of there warhammer figures and even the bulkiest largest figures have really damn good articulation especially the double joints i do know if you collect any of there figures but they do stuff which some companies fail to do.

[@drgonzo215]

Hello, Ninja , while i have to say i whole heartedly understand your sentiment and feel similar, I would like to point out that 4 Horsemen themselves have put out the notion of keeping articulation limited for the pop and swap aspect. While there are no shortage of 4 horsemen fanboys that attack any criticism in the cabal, (even if you dont like one aspect of a certain figure) i dont think that this is a fanboy notion. Its straight from the 4 horses mouths

[@ArticulatedNinja]

Did you enjoy the part of the video where I addressed that "notion".

[@drgonzo215]

Yes, I enjoyed the whole video, which is why I took the time to leave a comment. I think they have addressed the situation and are including new parts besides the valliant knight that have increased range in upcoming waves. Also the Valliant knight is going to start being the new base body for all knights in the future from what I understand. Everything has room for improvement, and I am looking forward to what the future has in store for the line!

[@plaindane1741]

Mfs will shit on super7 for their articulation but then glaze fourhorseman. Neca moves better, includes more accessories, and is often cheaper

[@NickDoobs]

Personally, I shit on super7 for their loose joints, plastic that breaks right out the box, and awful paint apps. Their lack of articulation doesn't bother me.

[@Plainbrain24]

Until recently I hadn't even heard of these figures and haven't paid much attention to action figures in general. Then I watched a review and was intrigued. I got the Blue Hagnon and love the glow. Got Ilgarr then. They look great, but I just don't feel all that excited. I keep getting the feeling that these figures can't/don't do much, which bugs me. Have I mentioned they look great? Still, 50€ spent on each and having mixed feelings is not great. While the articulation is lacking I also worry I might break something, since the joints are quite arthritic.

[@ArticulatedNinja]

@@Plainbrain24 I have felt the same and agree , they look amazing but compared to what else is on the market today they can't do much. But still look beautiful.

[@mattlazarus2489]

I know going into 4H figs they’re not going to be highly articulate. So the only ones I buy are preferred sculpts and accessories. I would love if they added more articulation though. As such I’ve only bought four 4H figs so far. I love fantasy and sci-fi related content so that’s my only draw to 4H.

[@209edd]

100% Ninja..I've been saying this for years ... LOVE Mythic's aesthetic but I am highly selective due to the junk articulation. If they would improve that BOOM! they'd blow up even more ...

[@ArticulatedNinja]

All facts ed 👌🏾 it's the only area holding them back compared to almost every other American line.

[@saintarchangel9547]

In my honest opinion, Mythic Legions are exactly that..a healthy balance between sculpt and articulation. I see some great poses in your video here, that show they articulate well enough, but sculpt isn't as compromised as it would be with double joints, extra swivels etc..I think they do a good job of maintaining that healthy balance...where both sculpt and articulation are prioritized.

[@maddrop]

Neca has that balance with better articulation than MLegions (and Neca´s articulation is horrible)....

[@WompaStompaCyn]

The first couple ML figures were so static and rigid that it almost put me off buying any more. They could only do museum poses, and just barely that. But now I've lowered my expectations and tried out more of them I'm more okay with them. But when I compare them to other lines I buy ML just gets put to shame. The ogre body is a joke compared to the Xesray minotaurs which are bigger, bulkier, better looking, more accessories, move better, and cost about the same.

[@ArticulatedNinja]

These are some of the most static poses I ever did in any video 🤣 I don't think a healthy balance is articulation from 2008 in 2024 figures and companies have come a long way since 2008. In my videos i usually do tons of dynamic poses not much here to do though. But that also explains why even I'm there promotional the photographer can do much but arms up and down legs ups and down. Great for standing in stoic poses though but then again a statue can do that as well.

[@slinkyG_13]

Same here I love mythic legions and have a bunch but more articulation would be better I wish they could be more like the red orc from memory toys

[@ArticulatedNinja]

Wassup SG those memory toys orcs are gonna be hard to beat them things are nice 🔥 I appreciate you supporting thanks 🙏🏾

[@roninjimojisan2572]

Hoping to get Bastet on the aftermarket. I really want that one.

[@ArticulatedNinja]

Shes beautiful I don't think you will regret it.

[@JM2theB]

A little late here, but what is the recipe for the two female figures you had posed with Anubis on the spinning stand??

[@notpopimp8346]

That's one of my main issues with them. Another is their figure tend to look short and stocky looking. Its fine for big knights and trolls etc, but smaller characters who are supposed to be thin look off to me.

[@theshowik2480]

I agree.

[@ArticulatedNinja]

True we need other body types not just bulky all the time

[@alexrosado3933]

Whole heartedly agree...dated articulation holds them back. Fantasy warriors and mages but can't get them in iconic poses. The same goes for S7. I have the Tcats but can't get Lion-o into his iconic pose. Looks pretty, but dont get down and dirty.

[@ArticulatedNinja]

All facts how we got mythical characters and can barely get them into those mythical poses usually it's just a simple arm up or down in most photos I see or just the stoic stance 🤣

[@alexrosado3933]

@ArticulatedNinja I picked up that dragon guy you reviewed....Awesome look, BUT it stands guard like a bouncer lol.

[@ArticulatedNinja]

@@alexrosado3933 🤣😂

[@docavenger1560]

You know I feel the same way and agree Beautiful sculpts, paint applications, Accessories game off the chain but it’s time too innovate and progress there line, I wish Mezco would introduce more variant body sizes .

[@ArticulatedNinja]

Thanks doc and yea I agree about the mezco line I don't have many but I think that would be nice for them they need some bigger bucks they just revealed there thor and I think he's a little undersized compared to the usual buck cap and iron man is on.

[@metamorphomisk]

For someone who cares so much about articulation im surprised you don't own the recent AYs, at least i dont see any videos on them 3:30 "if you care more about sculpt than articulation, go buy statues" Disagree. There are plenty of toy photographers who pose and shoot. Just because you (I also) like to put our figures in thtese crazy looking dynamic poses in scenes, doesn't mean that is everyone's cup of tea. Some collectors/photographers like to pose in more minimal poses like the one you did at 2:58, where they set up a scene and tell a story etc. Not everything is about fighting other figures. You say "can we have both? Can we meet in the middle?" Well, to Mythic Legions fans thats what they are. They believe that is what meeting in the middle is. Look at Dorklair on KZbin, Mythic is his favorite line, he certainly thinks they made the perfect balance. I know almost all of your fans basically agree with most of your points every time. Hope you take this comment as constructive criticism or a conversation, not trying to attack you. I barely comment on your vids but this time I had to make a counter point (even if my fave line is AY)

[@bodydoublesecurity4987]

Exactly! You would think his favorite line would be Amazing Yamaguchi. 🤣😂🤣

[@id0licious]

Single jointed elbow or knees can have double-jointed levels of articulation if they are cut properly and have long enough joints, Hasbro has actually shown this fairly well with some of their new releases such as the Black Series Ki-Adi-Mundi for instance. Also, most double-hinged elbows won't allow for rotation and don't allow for part swapping (easily at least) at the elbow itself, but rather at the shoulder socket. Same for the knees. Pinless makes it even complicated, lol. There are pros and cons to both, and both can be fully articulated and look nice if designed and cut properly. Personally I think it comes down more to engineering and implementation more than a specific kind of joint being the limiting factor. Butterfly joints also need to be designed and cut properly to both function well and look nice.

[@antonieralcoleman3935]

As the person who made the largest contribution to savage crucible, i can honestly say it was because of articulation. The sculpt is amazing and the part swapping makes collecting even more fun. Not to mention, the paint is great. The characters look really good and have deep lore. This can be said about both lines however savage crucible will win every single time because of the superior articulation. It's just no contest at this point.

[@zephyrleapold6796]

They used to design MOTUC and the Legions look and move better overall than those figures. They don't compare to most other articulated figs, but people love the way they look over the other lines so it's something for people who don't like the toy look of some other lines.

[@miragebangbravern]

This is why I don't buy Mythic Legion figures. Sure, they look amazing but keep in mind that I don't live in the USA so imagine buying an already expensive figure plus shipping and then what you get isn't amazing. At that point, I can just get an SHF.

[@ArticulatedNinja]

True

[@bigguidokc7619]

Another terrific video, Ninja! I’m a casual collector of Mythic Legions. I avoided the line for years after having a horrible experience with the QC of 4H’s Gothitropolis figures. After watching some reviews, I decided to try the line and was pretty pleased with the quality of the figures I purchased. Like you, I found the articulation scheme lacking. I like posing and photographing my figures in dynamic poses and fight scenes. Mythic Legions are beautiful but very limited when posing them in anything other than very vanilla poses. I’d gladly give up some of the interchangeability for a modern articulation scheme with more ROM. I would buy more of the figures if they did this. Otherwise, I’ll continue to pretty much stick to buying just their beast figures and use them with other better-articulated figures.

[@pvw-stopmotions8042]

I think mythic legions are the reason super 7 thinks it can get away with their bs. All accessories and looks ,no articulation, except mythic legions has the sculpts and paint to back up the price point

[@armanireyes753]

To me the figures are a homage to the original Masters Of The Universe line from the 80’s. Even the articulation is similar. That’s why they reuse so many parts & have over sized proportions. Honestly they’re my favorite figure to collect due to the endless possibilities of customization/ story telling. They’ve never needed to be articulated much for me considering they mostly stay posed in static positions anyways. I say the 4H are doing it right by pleasing a certain demographic that grew up not needing much articulation & got most of the joy from the lore behind the characters.

[@remitos98]

I understand your point for the articulation. But not every figure can be as articulated as a sh figuarts figure. A lot of figure look weird and gappy, and they get loose if they have to much articulation. Figures like mythic legion last longer than shf aswell.

[@ArticulatedNinja]

I hear you and yes it should last longer since it's closer to a statue. I didn't bring up sh figuarts the whole video or mafex or storm collectibles and I could of. But I used examples of similar priced lines and even cheaper one's all with better articulation. We all know some of the best articulation out there is figuarts , revoltech mafex ECT. But if they can't even beat marvel legends or neca articulation Im not even gonna compare them to highly articulated lines like figuarts.

[@SciFiGeorge]

These 2 are my 1st Mythic Legions purchase. I do love everything that comes with them, but I definitely agree with you on the articulation. I'd love to see them flesh out more pantheons: Celtic, Aztec, Korean, Kenyan, etc. I know that's Rhodey's head you used for Anubis(excellent pick), but whose human head did you use for Bastet? Always enjoy your videos. Thanks for the edutainment 🖖🏾

[@josephkennethumali2865]

You're not wrong about the articulation being outdated, but while I also wish it was better, I still enjoyed the line regardless. You posted this video with the intent to urge improvement, but I found it dismissive of you to tell others to just collect statues if they care about additional joints. The line has been doing well since the beginning, which means they managed to connect with a community where not everyone prioritizes articulation. Nonetheless, articulation improvements would always be welcome

[@ArticulatedNinja]

Thanks for enjoying it, and I understand the dismissiveness part but I still for the same they are "action figures" for a reason and not statues so I'm not saying to keep up with other places like Asia (figuarts , mafex , revoltech , figma) but they don't even keep up with the average in America. Yes they was doing well since the beginning and 10 plus years later still selling almost the same single hinge product they are doing well, but unlike 10 years ago they are no longer the only company to corner the market on mythical creatures and knights, so if they wanna keep up maybe adding some modern articulation will help it's the only area they struggle in and are literally a decade behind in.

[@beej5]

I have a good sized collection of ML but I just can’t get behind the articulation. That’s the only thing keeping me from going all-in with this line, I just don’t find them fun to play with, which it’s important for an action figure imo. I’m much more inclined to grab a McFarlane figure and pose it up while watching a show even though legions look amazing

[@Killroy090392]

I agree and respect a lot of your points in this video Ninja but there was one thing you didn't get 100% right, I have a lot of Legions and the only figures that don't have thigh swivel are the skeletons. Every Knight, Barbarian, Orc, Goblin, Demon, Wizard and Female have thigh swivel as for the articulation yes it is dated I agree. But they have definitely been working on improving the articulation the Valiant Knight should be their standard going forward.

[@WompaStompaCyn]

The female bare legs don't have swivel.

[@Killroy090392]

@@WompaStompaCyn They do just not as good as the others, its made similar to how Mcfarlane Toys does theirs, it has a joint under the bare thigh that has some swivel

[@WompaStompaCyn]

@@Killroy090392 Oh you're right. Just tried it out and turns out it was just so tight I thought it didn't move lmao. Just barely moves though.

[@Killroy090392]

@@WompaStompaCyn Yeah like I said I agree with Ninja in terms that the line definitely needs to improve the articulation, the Valiant Knight is currently my fav figure they have made because the range of movement is much better than their old stuff. I think they should make joints like how Neca does some of theirs with the swivel ball joint, they can still improve range while keeping the swapping the same if they do that

[@ArticulatedNinja]

I hear you I agree but they need to do much more than a thigh swivel on 2024 these guys still losing to figures that are 10 years old. Yes hopefully valiant knight makes them continue down a path of better articulation. Thanks for supporting killroy 🔥

[@kevinmuhammad1510]

I agree, Thanx for saying what we won't and don't say.

[@powerturtlebusters]

Never bought mythic legions. That single elbow wouldn't be bad and would add more range if the cut was deeper. In my videos shitting on suoer7 i mention that. I like the henge and swivel elbow, but if the cut was a bit longer these figures could get a little more than 90. But they dont want to do that, so they might as well do doubles

[@emphorepolpatinedasenate]

I think your video is fair enough, but one thing why I buy these is because of the pop in swap, which you can do without hot water and a air gun an it's the main reason. I feel no other company I can make my own character by shaping parts without customization

[@ArticulatedNinja]

Yes they are good for that I agree 🙏🏽 thanks

[@emphorepolpatinedasenate]

@ArticulatedNinja I'm watching your newest vid and I'm like, wtf ppl are that mad by ur take?!

[@RoleKeeper]

Ive only dipped a toe in the Mythic Legions pond, they do look cool but like you said the articulation is dated and limited at best.

[@ArticulatedNinja]

Limited at best yea definitely keeper

[@rickmease9531]

None of what was said in this video should be seen as controversial. I've spent a good chunk on Mythic Legions & they're some gorgeous figures. None of that changes the fact that the articulation leaves much to be desired. A lot of fans and collectors are too into their feelings to remain objective about it but it's true. Also, the animals are incredible. I've sold the majority of my Legions figures due to waiting for my insurance company to pay my short term disability while on medical leave. Seriously, I've been out since 6/6 & am going back to work next week. Those cats just told me that my claim was approved on Monday, yes, as in two days ago! Sorry, I got off topic a bit there, but the point was meant to be that I will never sell Ballius. My trolls, ogres, cyclopses, orcs, demons, goblins, dwarves, and most of my elves, vampires, skeletons, and knights are gone but I'm keeping that horse forever. It works with most 6" and 7" lines and has amazing articulation.

[@ArticulatedNinja]

Thank you for sharing and being a channel member Rick I appreciate you supporting, and yes they look great but as you worded leave much to be desired in regards to articulation.

[@rickmease9531]

@@ArticulatedNinja I'm glad to support your hard work & vivid imagination. You put so much hard work into your videos, as well as your kit-bashes & mods. On top of that you're not keeping the secrets & as an amateur toy photographer, I really appreciate your insight. In the last week or two of watching your videos, I've learned a lot. The video on how you light a shot was particularly useful & your affiliate links to affordable products to do so was awesome. For the price of one Lumecube, I got three great little lights that are making a big difference.

[@HankG51]

I'll take better paint and sculpts over articulation. Don't need double joints to enjoy my mythic legions figures

[@tfnut]

Even though I don’t own may of these figures, I really like the ones I own and always appreciate what 4H is able to accomplish with this line. But the articulation does need improvements, especially for some of their characters that deserve it. People will say “less articulation is a design choice or helps with customization” but they can accomplish their goals with better range of motion.