How To Install A MyEnergi Libbi Home Battery Storage System 🔋

In this video we show you from start to finish how to install a MyEnergi Libbi battery system in the real world. Jordan shares all his tips and tricks for installing these batteries neatly and efficiently as well as following all the safety guidelines set out by ‪@myenergi‬
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⏱️Timestamps
00:22 Disclaimers
01:10 Libbi Unboxing
03:41 Libbi Controller
05:07 Floor Stands
08:18 Existing System Rundown
11:51 First Step
13:21 Delivery Warning
15:51 Mounting Batteries and Inverter
21:28 Absolute Beast
23:37 Fixings
25:25 Spacing Apart
26:47 Mounting The Libbi Controller
28:19 Connecting The Wires
33:52 Connecting Libbi Controller
37:00 Connecting Battery Cables
43:07 Powering On
45:33 Setup Wizard
51:00 Myenergi App
55:57 Registering Warranty
58:07 Commissioning
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[@artisanelectrics]

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[@63muhammadumair5]

Your professionalism really stands out! The attention to detail and clarity in your explanation are truly commendable. It's always a pleasure to watch someone who takes pride in their work and delivers such high-quality content. Keep up the great work!

[@DanielLandsverk0]

The fact that you put ferrules on a data/serial connection almost gave me tears of joy - you guys are really on a different level compared to most sparkies. I'm hoping that you one day will start Artisan Nordics (One can always hope, right?) cause there's alot of cowboys in the industry here (In Norway) as well. Also - for the demo of scanning the barcodes you could've used cereal boxes, cause then you'd be scanning cereal-numbers 🤣 (I'll show myself out)

[@artisanelectrics]

LOL I love that comment

[@KIDGE84]

I love a ferrel as much as the next man but let’s keep Tony the Tiger out of this 😂

[@Bob_too]

I love that this is still using RS-485. It takes me back 40 years to when I was first in Electronics in the 80’s. Now I’m retired and watching the latest transition to battery storage and it’s still using that same slow speed first gen multi drop serial interface. 😂

[@2Sorts]

It may be slow, but it’s clearly fast enough for this purpose, and it’s a tried, tested & reliable.

[@johnchristmas7522]

Just a thought for you to ponder. You install a lot of EV charger points and just recently commercial installers of the large EV fast charging points were asked by insurance companies to make sure they were 7.5 meters away from any buildings. Have any of your customers, with the appropriate mains supply, for a fast charger checked with their house insurers? Great video Jordan, good to see a professional with the work and the customer!

[@ForTheBirbs]

A great video for installers, well done. I gather the batteries are lithium iron phosphate which are a lot safer. Cheers

[@artisanelectrics]

Thanks 👍

[@davidstone408]

Taking waste off site - you need to be a licensed waste carrier - lower tier (which means you can move your waste off site) - this videos are great, I research technology before I plan anything.

[@djoneselec5100]

done my Libbi training on Thursday with an install lined up next month - great video thank you

[@artisanelectrics]

Find out more about Libbi here: www.myenergi.com/libbi-battery-storage/ Like and subscribe for more content like this!

[@user-hh6ex9md4w]

That's a great video! If you're looking for a reliable home backup power solution, I highly recommend checking out the Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series. It has a massive capacity, fast charging, and multiple output ports. Plus, it's built with Segway's UltraSeal Technology for waterproof durability. Definitely worth considering for your outdoor adventures and home power backup needs! 😊

[@jennifermedia6288]

This is hands down the best video on this system. I really want you to install it to ours. I spoke to harvey and Grahame about it!! Please travel to do it

[@mitchpemberton1205]

Didnt know that about fusebox rcbos. Interesting to know.

[@doctorpaul8138]

Far more interesting to see an install in a regular suburban semi, rather than a huge estate with triple garage ...

[@kristiangoransson6104]

A quick question, maybe stupid but I’m not shy for asking stupid questions, what’s the opinion/rules about putting the markings on removable parts, aka the lids of junction boxes/isolators? By the way, next time you should consider cutting the flooring out underneath the batteries, if the customer want to replace them I’m guessing it’s not gonna be cheap.

[@Daminous_Games]

Definitely not fitting all that in a normal house, or garage, but overall looks great. So much work, people don't understand, but at the end of the day you get so many benefits.

[@massyman3690]

Ye should do a video of you reviewing all the vans ye have 👍

[@Chris_In_Texas]

Great video Jordan. Cheers from the USA! 🤠👍

[@rattlehead85]

Great video as always Jordan. Found this extremely interesting and has answered a few questions i had regarding the set up. Am i right in saying your zs value obtained was high due to the TT earthing supply being used for the back up installation? Also one other question I still have is regarding the ethernet cables, are you running them inside the same trunking as the main 230v cables? If so are they not prone to electromagnetic interference from the circuit cables you have installed? Should they not be run in compartment trunking and kept separate.?👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@wolvolad25]

Fantastic video guys 🎉

[@flemingcastillo3336]

What is the wall panel used in the background where all the pieces of equipment are mounted? Great video!

[@Matteo-nz6ys]

Hello, congratulations on the flawless installation, you're truly an artist! Thinking about those incompetent individuals who installed the photovoltaic system for me with 2 BluE-S 5000D inverters and 4 battery packs on a three-phase system, it makes me furious!!!! Am I mistaken, or did you not configure the DIP switches in the video for addressing the battery packs? Would the controller work with another Kstar inverter as well?

[@kyester123]

Really interesting video 👍

[@marymadigan9707]

Excellent video great content nice one 😎🇮🇪👏

[@IanFarquharson2]

Nice video, not too much side stuff. That barcode bit does contain personally identifiable info, Cory’s lunchbox.

[@drod6424]

Brilliant job! All the best.

[@simonjones7785]

it struck me awhile after watching the diy special wiring in the ol boys house as similar to what I have had to deal with over the years at first look I would say hes was a spark in the mines ( anything goes just get the power there

[@jesse116]

Why didn’t you install a solaredge battery system on this site?

[@electrician247]

This was an excellent video Jordan. Great work. That comms cable on the back of the inverter looks a faff. That needs engineering out lol. I always struggle commissioning pretty much all the EV charge point and PV systems. Especially the wifi reliant ones! I find the CT setup with myenergi a little clunky as well tbh. Loads of very helpful and useful tips in this, appreciate it! Does this system have a built in neutral earth bond relay for island mode? We are waiting to go on our libbi training atm!

[@PabloTBrave]

Expecting a device to sync the time/date before its paired , I'm not so sure that is a bug. Although I would expect it to sync with a time server not a home charger

[@bluestreak101]

I do enjoy these videos they're interesting and informative so thank you. I do have a question though. Is this battery system only powering those 4 sockets if the event of an outage? Could you wire the batteries/inverter so it powers specific circuits such as lighting, heating or fridge etc.? I understand perfectly why you need to isolate between the grid and the battery and that this isn't an 'Online' UPS so there is a ms of delay. but could they be installed so they power the whole house?

[@tonywebb9909]

Another great video. Just two questions, not sure if it's the same for you but our DNO views an AC coupled battery as a separate micro generator which puts you over your 3.6KW export. Also I was just wondering how important it is to use Libby? Kstar is the same thing and costs 1K less

[@judebrown4103]

I'm not in the trade but I imagine it's the same as with all generic products: is the cost saving equivalent to the possible loss of technical support? In this case I have no idea about the support for the similar product it's just a suggestion and may be worth investigating before committing to purchase. 👍

[@rowles13]

Amazing content 👏👏👏

[@MrGuido63]

Hi Jordan, I’m a keen follower of your channel. At 78 I am still learning! Could you answer a confusion about solar panels? If I want to do an alteration to my home electrics, say replace a faulty light switch why do have to isolate the supply from my solar panels? This seems to be the advice by the experts. If I am to turn off the circuit at the consumer unit and attend to replace the faulty switch, wouldn’t that be okay? Cheers, David

[@tommendoza1812]

Does this mean if we watch this we shouldn’t have to drive to the other end of the country to do a couple of hours training to be allowed to install them 😆

[@kobirelf97]

U have to have the training to be able to register the warranty on them

[@artisanelectrics]

Unfortunately not but at least you will know more practically how to install one

[@tommendoza1812]

@@kobirelf97 I am joking, myenergi keep suggesting potential south training sessions but nothing has appeared. Will stick to the other brands until then unfortunately

[@NapierNimbus]

Am a layman most interesting, great coverage

[@alexscarbro796]

Great video. I’m curious, from the last shot, do the solar panels get hotter with the “solar skirts” fitted and thus likely to fail sooner? You might imagine that without the skirts that the airflow would keep them cooler?

[@moodyga40]

i would think it would be better using ferrules on the wires in the plugs Lee was fitting

[@brianjames6890]

I have a question you might have been asked previously: would it be at all economical to get batteries fitted and an inverter without solar panels and charge the batteries from the mains supply over night when the cost of supplying energy is cheaper than during the day. Then using battery power during the day? How’s that for a question lads, I will wait to see what your reply will be. Great dvd by the way.👏👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿👏👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@malachygallagher4936]

Hi: Why can’t the emergency backup feed the whole installation instead of 2no. 13a sockets? That’s what my customers require! Is it just MyEnergy Libbi that lacks this facility? Rgds mg.

[@0ldb1ll]

One thing that concerns me greatly are the reports of battery fires. What precautions are necessary?

[@chrisp7839]

If a customer wants to add an extra 5kWh module to a 10kWh libbi system (5kW inverter already fitted), is there a kit for this, or do you need to order all parts separately ?

[@Peter-yj3qq]

Hello from Germany, your RCD tripped in 126 ms. In Germany they have to trip within 200ms or 400ms depending on the earthing arrangement. But in reality they trip much faster. Most RCDs in Germany trip within 30ms. So my stupid question is: Is 126ms a common time for a RCD to trip in the UK? Because the time should only depend on the RCd itself. And in the UK I have always seen the same brands than in Germany. I must admit that I am a little confused.

[@leedurrant2]

Apparently minimum distance between batteries is 20cm, and maximum is 25cm. I need to have mine installed a minimum of 60cm apart due to location, and apparently that isn’t possible. What are your thoughts on extending the cables?

[@lowrybrock8272]

Got a question, why did you run the long positive cable instead of a short one like you did with the negative cable? It looks like they’re wired in parallel. Enjoyed the video even though I’m in the US. By the way, it looks like Nick did a nice job at your house.

[@aaronmdjones]

They're wired in antiparallel. Inverter negative goes to battery 1, then 2, then 3, ... while the inverter positive goes to battery n, then n-1, then n-2, ... This ensures that the total positive and negative lead length combined is the same for every battery.

[@lowrybrock8272]

@@aaronmdjones Got it. Thanks for the info. Never knew that.

[@brettjtodd]

@@aaronmdjones From libbi-Install-Manual-Rev-6.1-25.04.2023.pdf: Power Cable-Negative (Black) - 250mm Power Cable-Negative (Black) - 485mm (x2) Power Cable-Negative (Black) - 1800mm = 3,020mm Cable Power Cable-Positive (Red) - 485mm (x2) Power Cable-Positive (Red) - 1900mm Power Cable-Positive (Red) - 3300mm = 6,170mm Cable Am I missing something, but for the combined lead length to be the same, then should we expect the total length of negative to equal the total length of positive cables?

[@aaronmdjones]

@@brettjtodd The combined lead length of *both positive and negative* from *any single battery to the inverter* is the same. This doesn't depend on the overall positive lead length being the same as the overall negative lead length. The red lead is longer because it needs to drop down and snake over and all the way up to the other battery. But for every time the positive lead length increases by one battery's worth, the negative lead length decreases by the same amount, because the batteries are a fixed distance from eachother and there's very little slack.

[@Dutchlincoln]

Seems to be the exact same battery and inverter like the solaredge and the K-star. Ibelieve K-star manufacures these for more brands...?

[@danielcollins7714]

I don’t get it, 20kw and it’s only for them 4 plug sockets?

[@kalamazoo151]

Would a 3 phase Zappi be usable with this system?

[@fester.]

great vid,can i ask what make ac isolator you are using,looks beltin

[@lewis94uk]

Gewiss

[@Caddy666]

can you add extra batteries/panels to these systems later on?

[@Chris_In_Texas]

14:45 So what about the RCD for the main breaker itself? Will the Fusebox RCD continue to work, as well if exporting power?

[@markcampbell4576]

👌👌👌

[@owenjones2263]

Reminded me how much I hate CT clamps, such a crap way to sync phase.

[@daleodee]

Whats the cable croppers Lee uses ? The yellow ones ?

[@ciaranhughes8705]

Just a quick one if anyone can answer regarding bonding. I replaced an old 6mm main earth for water mains. While doing a board change. This enters property at bolier room at the center of the house. This now has a new 10mm bond. All good. Until I just discovered the plumbers piped in copper under a concrete floor to the kitchen sink. 2 meters away. The 2 copper pipes under the sink seem to be linked with what looks like a 4mm cable. Is this satisfactory or do you need to bring a 10 mm to this location as it pipes come up from the concrete again.

[@spam4just]

Can I ask why the normal HD wave inverter was installed and not the Home Hub series? Actually, surely 2 Solaredge batteries would have been cheaper and a dc coupled solution with one app support?

[@carlarrowsmith]

They may have a FIT tariff, you need to be AC coupled for that.

[@scubajoe]

What make / size is the case the modbus is mounted in? Thanks.

[@ShaneOSullivanky]

Don’t know if it’s a requirement in the UK but in Ireland, the DC needs to be segregated from any AC cable.

[@ShaneOSullivanky]

Careful with type A RCD on the backup socket as it is possible it won’t trip in an earth fault due to DC blinding. The test button might work but it may not trip in a fault if there is DC leakage. Type B only and might be even better to swap the internal Libbi backup Isolator for an RCBO.

[@ShaneOSullivanky]

The Libbi won’t be able to do anything with an export limit as it has no control over the Solaredge inverter where the PV is connected. The export limit should be left on the Solaredge if an export limit is mandated at that property.

[@ShaneOSullivanky]

myenergi will have an installer portal available soon so you can see more details than the customer sharing the app will show you. Handy if the mains MCB has tripped or if production is low you can see strong voltages/amperes as well as battery charge/discharge rate which is handy in cold weather and the battery is not charging.

[@ShaneOSullivanky]

As you have hardwired the Zappi and Libbi controller with Ethernet, a handy tip is to turn off the RF on both and allow the CT communication to happen over IP rather than RF.

[@user-sp3tl6gx5f]

Yes it is, they should run the dc cables in copex inside the trunking to keep them segregated, I got pulled up on this in my MCS inspection, that’s why I sleeve all the ac cables in 20-25mm copex even when they are in the trunking.

[@JamesScholesUK]

9:50 also if you've got a separate PV inverter then in theory at least you can self-power a larger load. If your house is using 8KW in the middle of the day and you really don't want to pull anything from the grid you can take e.g. 5KW from the solar and 3KW from the batteries simultaneously. If you only have one hybrid 5KW inverter then even if you have a full battery and the sun is shining you're still limited to supplying 5KW total

[@eethon1]

that's why you run a 16KW hybrid...

[@JamesScholesUK]

@@eethon1 well, yeah that would be another option, but here Jordan is discussing reasons you might have a separate PV inverter to your battery system

[@eethon1]

​@@JamesScholesUK Indeed, was a little tongue in cheek.

[@BerkeleyTowers]

Hey, I’m a bit confused about the EPS earth rod being connected to the MET? Doesn’t that defeat the object of completely isolating the grid side of the installation? I thought it was a discrete earth feeding the EPS side only. In the event of a fault occurring on the EPS side, aren’t you potentially feeding current into the grid earth via the MET? I thought the EPS side has its own TT earth attached to nothing else.

[@haldo691]

The safest thing would be to convert the whole house to TT then theres no risk of current onto the DNO earth

[@BerkeleyTowers]

@@haldo691 ooh, that’s a hot topic on other forums! Using steel reinforcement in foundations as a TT earth,….. possible introduction in future regs……

[@n0rth3rnlight]

Easee chargers aren't allowed to be sold in Sweden and numerous other countries... Due to pretty serious flaws in the design according to the Swedish bureau of electrical safety.

[@mcdonnell761]

Is there a requirement to make the Libbi the primary if adding to a location that already have MyEnergi devices? Does it make a difference what the primary device is?

[@aaronmdjones]

The primary device is generally the one with the hardwired grid CT connection.

[@Fritsvrolijk]

And whats the price off this nice Job ?????

[@brianpiper3188]

Stupid question: Why didn't you reset the Zappi and make it the slave device? I assume you would want the Libbi as the master device, because all power flows through it.

[@kingkeygear]

I know what LIBBI stands for , but what is a ZAPPI and a EDDI. I'm a 76 year old retired electrician, we didn't have these things in my day. P.S. Love the channel better than the TV

[@artisanelectrics]

Thanks for watching!

[@henryeadie7972]

Surprised AC RCBOs are not bi-directional, I would have imagined with it being you know AC, it has to support electricity going both ways?

[@ShaneOSullivanky]

Type AC RCBOs shouldn’t be used on solar PV as it is prone to blinding from DC leakage from the inverter. Type B RCBO should only be used but 30mA are prone to nuisance tripping hence why myenergi are recommending MCBs in the UK.

[@aaronmdjones]

Alternating current means that the current travels bidirectionally yes, however that doesn't tell you which direction *power* is traveling in. Using the conventional model of current flow, if the AC voltage were on the positive half of the sine wave (line is above neutral), and current were traveling from the input to the output, then power is traveling from input to output. However, if current were traveling from output to input, then power would be traveling from output to input. This is how you determine import vs export. What Jordan is saying is that apparently the test functionality on these RCBOs does not work when power (not current) is traveling from the load terminals to the supply terminals.

[@tonywebb9909]

100mA type B are recommended, but have you seen the cost of them

[@michaeljohnson1006]

I take it you would have to inform your house insurance company in case the battery bank catches fire.

[@Chris-hy6jy]

Was that an MK FCU with broken terminals?

[@artisanelectrics]

Yeah it was

[@Chris-hy6jy]

@@artisanelectrics shame. I wish MK would supply their products with good quality screws!

[@salibaba]

I'm all for safety but even the handling restriction in the manual seems a little over cautious. The Libbi is LFP and in the words of Dr Euan McTurk, "It's basically a rust battery, you'd have to do something monumentally stupid to get it to catch fire" These type of battery chemistry doesn't get hot enough on it's own to become self sustaining. It'd be like trying to light a flame retardant couch on fire. You could definitely do it, you'd just have to put a whole lot of effort in.

[@OraEtLabora0]

1:02:49 so you don't leave that to your customer?! 🤔 they pay you! 😳

[@narrowgauge7.25]

Focusing on this is not up to your normal standard

[@elminster8149]

Lol, serial numbers aren't PII, unless they're associated with a living individual, who's info you have access to. 🤣

[@thuisbatterijcentrum]

Dc (solar) to AC(inverter) to DC(battery) to AC(Usable energy).. You lost over 15% by converting.. And what if the grid fails? Then your system including the battery shuts down....Never buy such a setup! Waste of money honestly.

[@zulfqarali905]

Hi keep it up you are doing a great job and having fun making some brilliant videos superstar Ali Walsall west midlands england junction 10 m6 Walsall

[@Chris_In_Texas]

I really doubt that any portable fire extinguisher would put those packs out once it started. You might be able to put the cardboard box out, but the battery itself will continue to burn. I know firefighting an EV once started can take 30,000-50,000 gallons to extinguish. A 50 lb ABC Wheeled Fire Extinguisher that weighs in at almost 200 lbs on a cart only will operate for 35 seconds. Its s completely silly requirement for sure for the transporter to attempt this even at all. You get out and walk away while calling the fire dept and tell them where the melted pile of metal and plastic, uh van I mean, will be located. 🚒🧯🔥

[@zstation64]

Well no, because these aren't Lithium Ion batteries. Lithium Iron Phospate are a totally different beast, and are probably safer than the lead acid that starts the van. If you were using a Tesla Powerwall, then yes, they use Li-Ion and are likely to melt a flaming hole in the road.

[@Chris_In_Texas]

@@zstation64 Completely agree with you. Just funny that they want you to carry a portable ABC extinguisher to put out a large lithium battery fire in the first place. Every commercial vehicle is required to have an extinguisher here in the US, but typically it's not for you, its to help the other guy that might need it. 🤠👍 My guess is that if your van is on fire you won't go inside to grab it and then open the doors where all the fire is to try and to put 20+ kWh or more out. That is why the fire dept is there to help out. 🚒