Cable Tray, Three Phase Sockets & SWA Cable Install - Part 1

[@artisanelectrics]

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[@9plusinstalaciones]

The wholesalers and manufacturers may well call them spring/nuts but Industrial Sparks call them Zeb's. A 4" Grinder will cut your tray excellently.

[@artisanelectrics]

Thanks!

[@adriantyler277]

Tidy work, however what did you use to secure the tray to the corrugated steel outer shell and has that not 1, left dangerous points on other side, 2. Now punchered what would of been a weatherproof wall? Just interested questions? not trolling!! Before anyone counters my question.

[@muzikman2008]

Neat job guys 😎👍 I always called them "zebedes" and uni strut. Used to love working with tray and stuff...

[@artisanelectrics]

👍

[@mohamedalishafiqueahmed9496]

GOOD EVENING

[@moussandiaye9707]

Thahk you Mister NDIAYE I from Sénégal ❤❤❤❤❤

[@adinayang]

thanks for your video done by you ,it's perfect and welldone

[@Jordan-yc3fs]

How many 3 phase sockets are on 1 circuit 🤔 isolating will mean taking out several sockets doubt that board has enough capacity for all those 3 phase sockets to be separate circuits

[@artisanelectrics]

Yeah exactly we could only work with the few spare ways we had but they won’t be using anything too heavy anyway.

[@Jordan-yc3fs]

Client should have been told new board

[@9plusinstalaciones]

These seems to be General socket outlets in stead of dedicated outlets, he's done well.

[@trainsinkansas576]

In America they are called spring strut nuts and cone strut nuts. Cone strut nuts lock to the sides of the strut. These are newer style. T he spring strut nuts have been around for years. I have used a ton of them. Love them.

[@artisanelectrics]

Nice thanks

[@trainsinkansas576]

Nice looking job. Just the way I like it. I have run a lot of cable trey but it was with tape measures and levels. The laser technology makes it so much easier.

[@artisanelectrics]

Yeah laser really is a game changer

[@efixx]

Looks like a great job.

[@artisanelectrics]

Thanks 👍

[@RobSearson]

Quality installation

[@GeoB24]

How did you fix the tray to the back wall self tappers ?

[@lewis94uk]

Probably tek screws

[@artisanelectrics]

Yes self tappers

[@چڑیاگھر-م6ص]

this system is very use full

[@nearlyjuly7990]

Would love a video showing how you offsetted the tray, all that stuffs long out of my memory.

[@stuartandrews4344]

You can get all the offsets,risers, even adjustable bends now for some brands, so much easier now, old days I add to work out the angle,etc for making them. Just look at Swifts cable tray cat, & Premier cable tray even comes pre punched for glands.

[@steverobinson8170]

Neat job , only thing i would pick you up on is fixing into mortar joints , mortar is far weaker than the blockwork plus if its the last horizontal joint possibility it will eventually disturb the block .

[@artisanelectrics]

We didn't use the mortar joints specifically.

[@efixx]

#TopTip

[@steverobinson8170]

@@artisanelectrics The lower fixing throughout in the mortar joint , better to have dropped it down 50 mm , problem is if its the last joint it could crack the mortar joint and everything would be free swinging eventually, we had to fix unistrut on the walls and bracket off because of this issue

[@michaelcostello6991]

Good no waffle video. Thanks a lot

[@whatthedeuse]

Think I would have spanned vertically with strut between the two horizontal perlings at the back so you could have kept the tray running the same way up all the way around plus the strut could have doubled as a fixing point for the socket drops 😉

[@ronnypoelmans3214]

My thoughts exactly. 👍

[@artisanelectrics]

Good call!

[@fuzedtv]

2nd this can buy Flexi bends but cutting lots is just as quick and easy job done. Still a neat install never the less

[@lewistempleman9752]

What is the unit going to be used for? What are the sockets going to be used to power? Three 4mm radials doesnt seem much for all those sockets.

[@artisanelectrics]

They are just using some fairly light appliances they sent me a list of all the equipment they will be using with the various KW ratings in advance and I designed it based on that.

[@lewistempleman9752]

@@artisanelectrics sounds good, not a room full of arc welders then 👍🏼

[@artisanelectrics]

Nope! 😂

[@benharris2217]

What nice job to have won. professional job as always. looking forward to the next part

[@artisanelectrics]

Thanks! Part 2 just went live!

[@BasedSaxon]

How far should the supports be apart for tray?

[@shaynemacdonald3051]

Did you get a good fixing on that outside wall? That's something I wouldn't do. I would of spanned unistrut between two perlings.

[@brianwood5220]

An excellent job Jorden. A real example to those in training.

[@artisanelectrics]

Thanks! 😁👍

[@c8bbr]

Why did you keep changing face with the tray? Just hang it all the same and span with unistrut and window brackets on the front and back walls

[@artisanelectrics]

I prefer to mount it horizontally where possible its easier to run cable in that way.

[@c8bbr]

Artisan Electrics I get that but it could easily have been kept horizontal on all 4 sides. Then you wouldn’t see cables jumping on and off trays et every bend. You could have made unistrut framework on the front and rear walls hung off the existing framework and then used cantilever arms on there as well. Flat 90 bends and jobs a good en.

[@artisanelectrics]

That would have been quite difficult there was a lot of stuff in the way.

[@paul79donegan4255]

Tbh i thought the same always keep tray flat in warehouses and jumping on and off tray is a bit ruff

[@antonios4926]

Thanks for the video. Is metal trunking necessary when installing new warehouse lighting? Can the cable be just clipped to the RSJ or purling?

[@scottsparky1]

What are all those three phase sockets for. I'm guessing only 1 will be used at once. Other wise you should of wired them on there own circuit.

[@artisanelectrics]

They are only gonna be used for fairly light equipment so they won’t be fully loaded

[@gavindebrito7117]

Zebs! But they are called channel nuts. Nice work👍

[@artisanelectrics]

Thanks!

[@mjdavidson7185]

Neat tray install, looking good 👌

[@artisanelectrics]

Thanks 👍

[@pcg1276]

Hello,I noticed you used self tappers on the metal wall to fix the boxes and cables.Would not the screws appear on the other side or is the wall double skinned.

[@Cablesmith]

Great job, nice and neat

[@artisanelectrics]

Thanks!

[@michaelcostello6991]

You could do a video on how to select best option of cable tray or basket or ladder etc etc form the point of view of ease on install and cost etc etc . Just a suggestion..

[@chenmebbo8431]

well done

[@459HAMED]

Could you show what fixings you used to fix the cable tray onto the wall

[@artisanelectrics]

Just normal raw plugs and 2 inch screws with penny washers, they gave a very solid fixing.

[@David-dz8jb]

The tray looks way oversized to me for the 2 x 4mm 5 core and 1 x 4mm 3 core only three cables there? Prefer expanding bolts to fix cantilever arms, personally would have used trunking & conduit drops. Will there be a part 2 to this?

[@artisanelectrics]

Yeah I purposely oversized it to allow for future expansion if needed, the labour is the biggest cost when fitting tray so might as well fit bigger and save the client money in the long run.

[@Teeqs]

12:35 anyone else try blow the metal bits away or am i just stupid

[@essdee9143]

What did you use to attach the tray (when it goes flat) to the metal structure of the building..? I hope it wasn't single skinned...?

[@Gr33nMamba]

My OCD is hoping you've planned out which cables go on the inside/outside of tray for the runs that are the shortest/longest, or vice versa. Nice to see some commercial install content on here.

[@artisanelectrics]

Yes I have! Stay tuned for Part 2 where I talk about that! 😁

[@geoffupton]

nice work, that good the tray is near invisible above the office side from the other side! 😊 looking forward to part 2

[@artisanelectrics]

Thanks!

[@cyranox90]

What's the mounting height of the socket ?

[@garyscoff2882]

Just thinking about that job . It’s very neat by the way If u put 3 x 32amp sockets on a 32amp radial then if a machine was plugged in which draws 30 amp say , then the other 2 sockets would be useless wouldn’t they ? It would trip due to over load ? Also if a machine was plugged in which draws 6amp say then it’s protected by a 32amp mcb ?

[@texasproud3332]

Unistrut spring nuts coming in various sizes

[@artisanelectrics]

Nice thanks

[@tobyclayton661]

the brackets on the wall. the actual bit that is sticking out is called uni strut. so i presume the nuts are uni nut

[@adcuz]

Lovely install

[@artisanelectrics]

Thanks a lot!

[@seanmac2384]

Lovely tidy job 👌🏼

[@artisanelectrics]

Thanks!

[@arniewheeler4673]

Superb job chap....

[@artisanelectrics]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@quinsee66]

What size breaker did you use for each set of three 3phase commandos?

[@artisanelectrics]

You can see in part 2

[@garyscoff2882]

Surely has to be a 32amp mcb ?

[@Badgerooni90]

Wheres the grinder at Jordan ?!

[@KonstantBillsAivisuals]

Nicely done sir.

[@artisanelectrics]

Thank you kindly

[@harrymcough5545]

Did u use self tapers to drill into the metal wall of the garage

[@artisanelectrics]

Yes

[@harrymcough5545]

Is it double skinned then otherwise could leak ?

[@artisanelectrics]

Yes it is

[@RWATraineeElectrician]

nice job, nice little unit 👍

[@artisanelectrics]

Thanks!

[@jonathanstephens7804]

tidy job mate get yourself a grinder will make life easier!

[@artisanelectrics]

I've got one in the van! LOL

[@jasonelson7238]

Tell u what mate u bang some work out👍👍

[@artisanelectrics]

HAHA thanks!

[@electricalTechnician412]

Very clean and nice work 👌. What is the standard distance between two breaking And Standard heights for 3 phase outlets???

[@Tiram-wk1zm]

Just wondering why do you use a combi instead of an impact driver for screwing the back boxes onto the wall?

[@artisanelectrics]

Just prefer the action of a combi, the hammering of an impact driver is a bit annoying.

[@havoctrousers]

Is the 4mm overkill for the single phase sockets? 2.5mm PVC SWA has a CCC of 39A on tray doesn't it?

[@artisanelectrics]

Yeah but I always like to over engineer a bit.

[@waheedislam2989]

Per hour rate ..?.sir

[@quinsee66]

Also what type were they you didn't say

[@PANDATRAYMAKER]

Nice

[@briangovan2807]

1200mm between brackets , not a metre , saves drilling

[@artisanelectrics]

Thanks!

[@Sash_Window]

The correct term is channel nuts.

[@thething1749]

Spring channel nuts, if you ordered channel nuts you would get springless. Also you need to order long, medium or short

[@douglasgreaves188]

Classed as exposed conductive part. On your certificate you have tick box for water, gas, structural steel. Keeps everything at the same potential. So it fails under bonding. Its a simple fix. It's not a bath tub if that's what your mixing it up with, part of your electrical system.

[@MrMajed187]

Zebs always

[@artisanelectrics]

Yep!

[@mathman0101]

Very nice job Jordan well done I do think you really could do with an apprentice. Just sort through and get the best. I really think you have a lot to offer the younger generation and you might be pleased how quickly they can be competent taking a lot of stress from you to grow the business while still managing to keep the quality. Nick’s Adam and Toms Nom Nom really good apprentices so there is quality out there. Even Mr Savary takes the odd apprentice out now and then.

[@artisanelectrics]

Thanks for the tips!

[@mathman0101]

Artisan Electrics you know better than me but Jordan your the nicest guy out there I really pray for your success. If you don’t chase the pound but quality is your motto the pounds will come your way. Your channel really helps to show your quality people in Cambridge and surrounding areas know what they are in for when they hire you.

[@elektrikeren5049]

So you Think Aliens are green? 😂😂 Nice job Jordan.🇩🇰

[@artisanelectrics]

Depends which planet they come from! LOL

[@peternorman2563]

He will be on TV soon with his own show. Its going to be called how to rewire your house in 10 easy lessons !

[@artisanelectrics]

😂😂😂

[@mohamedalishafiqueahmed9496]

Fine

[@sheldonfieldhouse8587]

Looking good 👍 If you can say what is the building going to be used for?

[@artisanelectrics]

A research lab for electric powered boats

[@sheldonfieldhouse8587]

Nice! 👍

[@timh5529]

Loved the video. Quality work as always. Quick question though. What's the locking long bit extension you're using? I know it's from Armeg but I can't find it on their website. Thanks!

[@artisanelectrics]

amzn.to/30B4QtX

[@brianoceallaigh8714]

nice work Jordan, lot easier to clip cables with tray mounted that way and for any furture runs that may go in especially if you are working on your own also beats having to move any clutter on the floor to do the job and if data cables or fire alarm are neeeded it makes it much easier to add some fillet in it... just wondering where did you get the extra long screw adapter for drill?

[@artisanelectrics]

Thanks yeah that was exactly my thoughts! Armeg extension bit you can get it here: amzn.to/30B4QtX

[@rowles13]

Great video jordan 👍have you tried dewalt wall dogs fixing instead of plastic plugs.

[@artisanelectrics]

Yes I have, don't like them, they dont hold well at all.

[@patrickmurphy6156]

You should set the trays onto the tray on its side

[@artisanelectrics]

I prefer it like this its easier to run the cables in.

[@patrickmurphy6156]

@@artisanelectrics it makes no difference with the cable pull

[@63ch31]

In my country I have only heard "zebb" used for refering to the central male extremity:)

[@juangonzalez187]

Down here in Tx them there are called springy nutties

[@artisanelectrics]

👍

[@munishsaini4048]

Nice work 👍 I interested work with you

[@ashmanelectricalservices4318]

The CK Armourslice will get a proper workout of this one.

[@artisanelectrics]

Yeah need to change the blade now, they last pretty well tho.

[@matthewwalley2412]

Zebs or ba##ard when they fly off whilst balancing an enclosure trying to secure it to strut.

[@markwilliams4274]

Honestly don't get why you mounted that cable tray flat along those walls the like you did?? I would have mounted it the other way and incorporated cable tray drops down to each socket outlet. More than one way to skin a cat I suppose 😻.

[@carlmarquardt994]

There was a vertical beam in the way so the brackets are 450 mm. He would have had to set around it. Would have taken longer. That's what it looked like to me. But it was a nice job.

[@markwilliams4274]

@@carlmarquardt994 There wasn't any major obstacles along both maisonary walls that 40mm uni strut or an off set or two would have solved to my eye, both legs could have tied into the other run on the other wall with drops down to the sockets where needed. I'm not knocking the man's work like I said there is more than one way to skin a cat.

[@adrianraith3831]

Zebs is what I've always known them as.

[@artisanelectrics]

Me too!

[@kaplan1406]

@ 8:30... Those are Spring nuts.

[@kaplan1406]

Forgot to add that the cable tray run looks good.

[@artisanelectrics]

Thanks!

[@markdouglas91]

bond the tray together with earth braids/fly leads. Can’t remember the last time I’ve used spring zebs, always have normal or pull the springs off. zebs I’ve always called them! Nice job though so far!

[@artisanelectrics]

Thanks!

[@johnhoward2104]

Why bond the tray with fly leads? Cable tray is not in itself an exposed.c.part, so if not used as a cpc, needs no earthing, and if it is not an extraneous.c.part, it requires no bonding connection - see section 10.11 of guidance note 8 for details. The tray in the video was neither an exp. or extr. c.part, so fly leads would serve no purpose at all.

[@HahaSully]

I'm no pro but some sites I've worked on I've seen sparks earth the tray. but would you need to earth the tray?

[@douglasgreaves188]

Yes it's a conductive part of the electrical system & must be linked to earth.

[@MrImATarget]

I agree with Douglas reply

[@steverobinson8170]

@@douglasgreaves188 seen this argued both ways by different suits but yes i agree with you every time

[@robswingler]

douglas greaves it will only have double insulated cables on it so not really required by the regs but I’d probably do it my self . But then they say your making metal work potentially have touch voltages under fault conditions where there wouldn’t normally be.

[@steverobinson8170]

@@robswingler I always try and anticipate what may happen in the future , now thier is a good chance that tray may get used for other services , extra circuits even as a hanging point for equipment so dropping an earth link in is probably well worth the effort cost wise pennies , also around by the back of the consumer unit there appears to be twin and earth going vertically on a piece of tray so there is a potential for an issue in the future

[@charliechimples]

Nice job. So annoying when you’ve got all those holes and you still manage to miss every single one. Thanks for sharing. 🐵

[@artisanelectrics]

Haha yeah thanks

[@doomain6769]

@@artisanelectrics after a bit of experience with tray you learn that 1.2M brackets will line up with the holes 😂 1st video I've seen of yours n I'll be checking more out

[@MrImATarget]

Nice little easy install. I hope you provided earthing links between the trays to link them all together. I would personally have used trunking and conduit. It would have taken a little longer but that is just my preference.

[@SME_Ste]

Yeah, trunking and singles is nice. Easier to add to later also

[@douglasgreaves188]

Same here terminating SWA plus the cost. Run singles in trunking.

[@anthonybragg]

@@SME_Ste Yes I would agree with that too.

[@tomorichard]

Why would you earth the tray???

[@taska2510]

I think the tray looks great and is really easy to add/adapt

[@ELECTRICLIFE4U]

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@_mklein]

Thanks for the great content! What advice would you give to someone (me) currently thinking to switch from Mechanical Engineering to Electrical trade? - After 2 years in the office, I am desperate to be back on site! I have some experience as a Carpenter but not qualified. I think Sparks work is more related to my Degree! I am 32 years old! Kind Regards, :)

[@artisanelectrics]

Just try and get out there and get some experience on site and book a course for the theory side of things! Hope it goes well!

[@raychambers3646]

Either plain or sprung channel nuts (zebs ) a lot of sites not allowed to work off steps ,always imo if you feel safe working off steps do so .

[@garyverth4887]

They are called channel nuts.

[@paulpink9518]

Not bad but putting power arms up with screws and plugs to me is just a big no no to me . Also when u put the jointing plates on the tray and the locating clips I always put a couple of 6mm roofers to secure it in place as in the futrw the clips may become knocked out and then the jointing plate will become lose.

[@artisanelectrics]

Thanks for the top tips!

[@sunhuizart3821]

Is that your apprentice or just someone else working on the project?

[@artisanelectrics]

One of the electricians I use on a regular basis.

[@uwanthits]

sorry, ive been finding your vids to be too quiet lately. Had to turn my volume up quite a bit.

[@artisanelectrics]

Thanks I will check whats happening

[@shane121]

I have been too. Had to have it on max but still very quiet

[@taska2510]

I haven’t

[@goodplacereviewer2495]

The zebs are official called channel nuts

[@paulmcgeoch2603]

Shut the big door and you would see your laser better 😄

[@artisanelectrics]

There were sky lights so it didn’t make that much difference

[@adamcook1034]

I've always known them as channel nuts.

[@artisanelectrics]

👍

[@thething1749]

Sorry Jordan, you have done a nice job but I think it would have looked much nicer if you mounted the tray vertically the whole way around! The horizontal tray feels like it’s almost in the way and upsets my OCD.

[@stuartandrews4344]

Another one who would vertically mount all cable trays,much easier & neater,can mount them on stand off's if required

[@artisanelectrics]

I don’t like mounting it that way as it’s much harder to install the cables on it like that.

[@thething1749]

Artisan Electrics come on Jordan, at £150.00 an hour you should have to struggle a little bit 😉

[@artisanelectrics]

😂

[@iScoTT29]

M6 springback nuts

[@artisanelectrics]

Thanks!

[@jemseed]

Where’s part 2

[@stuarnold7338]

Just out getting a coffee.

[@artisanelectrics]

Coming tomorrow (Saturday) 5pm

[@jemseed]

Sweet mate 😀

[@kevinpoore5626]

Spring Unistrut nut you nut 😆

[@artisanelectrics]

😂

[@yacinehachani9754]

We call them “Zebs”

[@artisanelectrics]

Thanks

[@listeningto8371]

Brackets are upside down

[@artisanelectrics]

No they aren't

[@timkelliher6855]

Cutter bolts zebs simple

[@ElByrnesO]

You should have used steel trunking and conduit......it would have looked much more professional.