David Foster Wallace on Commercial literature and reading

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14 жыл бұрын

Edited version of the ZDFmediatek interview with David Foster Wallace.
This version offers David Foster Wallace's ideas, without repetitions, long pauses, interviewer's comments. Although some cuts may appear rough, there is no attempt at editorial bias or content manipulation. Mr. Wallace's archives (books in his library, notes, and writings) have been recently acquired by the Harry Ransom Center at the University of Texas Austin (google it)

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@Bombtrack411
@Bombtrack411 8 жыл бұрын
The part about the "dread of quiet" is really true and more relevant than ever.
@brainsareus
@brainsareus 4 жыл бұрын
Even within the music of today, and in some of the better stuff as well; there just aren't many musical rests anymore. It's just sort of, loud droning, continuous sound.
@SpiderWick12
@SpiderWick12 4 жыл бұрын
@@brainsareus that's an interesting observation to me. Idk if it's true, but it's interesting
@jacobloving6765
@jacobloving6765 4 жыл бұрын
brainsareus System of a Down has good Stops
@skiphoffenflaven8004
@skiphoffenflaven8004 4 жыл бұрын
Mr Bungle was great at creating down times.
@SpiderWick12
@SpiderWick12 4 жыл бұрын
@@matthewseanmclachlan what're you even responding to?
@Applebutter52
@Applebutter52 4 жыл бұрын
A video of a man lamenting about the decrease in our attention spans and mental effort cut down to 4 minutes so it takes less effort to digest.
@cawfeedawg
@cawfeedawg 4 жыл бұрын
Here is the full version of this interview in higher resolution for the rest of us that can actually listen to this man for days never mind minutes kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3ivq4qaiZypfcU
@bobzilla211
@bobzilla211 4 жыл бұрын
We really do live in a society
@LardBucket_
@LardBucket_ 4 жыл бұрын
That's what's funny to me; I probably wouldn't have clicked this video on my front page if it was >5min
@StephenDoty84
@StephenDoty84 4 жыл бұрын
Cut down to 4 minutes? No, you got it backwards. These points could have been made in half the time.
@aelix56
@aelix56 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like it's a really narcissistic and pedantic claim. If your book feels like stabbing nails into your urethra while reading it because it's boredom in literature shape, that's not on the reader and his "intellect" or "lack of attention span", that's on the writer and his lack of skill. Books must be either educational or entertaining, if you don't fill in either of those you've failed as a writer.
@andreapolli3755
@andreapolli3755 8 жыл бұрын
I really like one thing from this interview: you can see how his brain works way faster than his mouth. He's about to say something but he has to stop and say something like "well, not always" or "that's not always true"; and his eyes go somewhere and pick up other thoughts, other interpretations of reality, other points of view. He argues himself and his thought before he could even say it. And he really needs to struggle to find the right word to be less wrong. And it is something you can feel from his writings too. A beautiful mind, with huge awareness of reality in its whole.
@mbw6785
@mbw6785 7 жыл бұрын
I noticed that too. I think I've experienced it. If I have, if it's the same kind of thing (for I am not nearly as intelligent or articulate as this man) then I know that it is terribly exhausting
@gmmay70
@gmmay70 6 жыл бұрын
Everyone's brain works far faster than their mouths.
@Yzjoshuwave
@Yzjoshuwave 5 жыл бұрын
I've definitely had this experience as well -- of casting my mind along a variety of tangents and getting ahead of myself in the process. Writing has actually helped quite a bit with this, because I'll get into a good flow-state and my thoughts seem to pace to the process and rhythm of letting the words out. It's something I deliberately worked on, actually. Instead of writing in fits and starts, logging a sentence and then planning out what I'm going to say next, I'll just let the words flow out and try to let a really smooth rhythm emerge. My best writing definitely comes when I'm in that smoothly flowing state -- no question. I do still have a residuum of those prior issues: maybe one can never quite eliminate them completely, but the main place I've been noticing it is that when I go back to read what I wrote, I'll catch these spots where a word I intended to write was completely omitted purely because my mind outpaced the writing. It's usually small words that are more structural though. The big and interesting words generally make it in.
@PhilaPeter
@PhilaPeter 5 жыл бұрын
check out the Elon Musk Joe Rogan interview. You can see the gears whirring inside Musk's skull if you watch his eyes.
@timsopinion
@timsopinion 4 жыл бұрын
"Infinite Digress"
@GLaYn
@GLaYn 4 жыл бұрын
"We don't want things to be quiet anymore", Aldous Huxley did a marvelous essay just about that.
@neilcaffrey7791
@neilcaffrey7791 Жыл бұрын
May I Ask The name of this essay please?
@michaelwilson1683
@michaelwilson1683 Жыл бұрын
the rest is silence
@neilcaffrey7791
@neilcaffrey7791 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelwilson1683 thank you very much!
@skiphoffenflaven8004
@skiphoffenflaven8004 4 жыл бұрын
He was absolutely right about the lack of quiet, purposeful reading among many people in the U.S.
@solodolotrevino
@solodolotrevino 4 жыл бұрын
Who has the time when everyone is working 50+ hours for pennies just to stay afloat. Throw in social media and there’s no longer an attention span to sit down and read. We don’t want to actively think anymore, we want to escape our daily drudgery
@skiphoffenflaven8004
@skiphoffenflaven8004 4 жыл бұрын
Trevino Or throw it out, hehe! I ditched FB over a year ago, that great time suck. At least KZbin offers documentaries, movies, concerts, interviews, and art gallery visits. But I don’t have to visit YT. And I don’t have to read. Big difference, however, is that culturally for me, reading was ingrained early on. Sitting in/walking in woods or a park without a cell phone and just a book isn’t some act of sacrifice or rebellion. I work full-time, and have for decades. Don’t make much but also don’t want much. Just enough for rent, food, medicine, gasoline, and utilities. Spare moments or down time -> reading. Choice. Actively think...when I stop doing that, it’s time to check out, hehe!
@flukislucas
@flukislucas 4 жыл бұрын
On average people work fewer hours per day now than at any time in history, so that’s not why. Reading is only a means of communication and in today’s world there are far more ways, easier ways, to ingest information. Less than 150 years ago all there was were books. Most people like the quicker and easier way to do things. Is this good or bad? Maybe
@jhonviel7381
@jhonviel7381 4 жыл бұрын
@@flukislucas its only bad because those who control the easily digestible media are not interested in the well being of the human being.
@skiphoffenflaven8004
@skiphoffenflaven8004 4 жыл бұрын
Crow Hehe!
@markcarey67
@markcarey67 4 жыл бұрын
I was a live sound engineer professionally in my 20s and it would always bug me that people always wanted to put on recorded music between the live bands' sets - Sometimes after a particularly good set by a band I would "forget" to do this so people could dwell on what they just heard for a while and someone from whatever venue I was mixing would always run up to me within a couple of minutes without fail and insist I put the recorded music on as if I was simply incompetent and not doing my job.
@BrownSoldier96
@BrownSoldier96 3 жыл бұрын
What do you do for work now?
@ironflazambat5815
@ironflazambat5815 4 жыл бұрын
It scares me how much I agree with some of the things Wallace says, because it makes me feel so alone in a world where so many of the close friends/family I have would just consider thoughts like these to be overthinking and move on, while dilemmas like these bother me and linger in my mind for much longer. I just feel lonely for someone who can level with me sometimes, instead of just trying to get me to move on and stop thinking about a certain thing. I don’t know. I just feel real lonely sometimes, I guess.
@thebrave4974
@thebrave4974 2 жыл бұрын
You are not alone buddy
@mudskippa8958
@mudskippa8958 2 жыл бұрын
I feel the same.
@flappyturtlesnatch
@flappyturtlesnatch Жыл бұрын
You're definitely not alone. There's more of us than it seems.
@EdDunkle
@EdDunkle Жыл бұрын
We all feel lonely, frequently
@samirmahat5929
@samirmahat5929 11 ай бұрын
Go to a good uni mate you’ll meet a lot of ppl the talk to
@user-qb3jg8ep9t
@user-qb3jg8ep9t 8 жыл бұрын
Some times I just want to make him breakfast and help him put on his bandana
@ConsumeristScroffa
@ConsumeristScroffa 6 жыл бұрын
That's so random it made me laugh.
@sterlinghayden4096
@sterlinghayden4096 6 жыл бұрын
ww wifi , he didn't't need any help with his bandana.
@Syllogyzym
@Syllogyzym 4 жыл бұрын
i'll get the shovel
@ternampak
@ternampak 4 жыл бұрын
@Cravat Stevens why are you so angry?
@BeauJames59
@BeauJames59 4 жыл бұрын
Apparently, so did a number of women when he was on book tours. (wink)
@g.e.whitman
@g.e.whitman 8 жыл бұрын
I love this and I love at the end he says "I dont know"
@Minotauronabike
@Minotauronabike 7 жыл бұрын
Imagine if David had lived until today. He would probably have some very interesting thoughts on the phenomena of twitter, instagram, facebook, and vine. So it goes.
@mbw6785
@mbw6785 7 жыл бұрын
I was listening to one of his 1996 interviews the other day, and based on that, I think to observe those things would have been incredibly painful for him.
@sterlinghayden4096
@sterlinghayden4096 6 жыл бұрын
Minotauronabike , I think he lived long enough. He spoke of people's thumbs growing longer from playing with their smart fone so.
@acetate909
@acetate909 5 жыл бұрын
Probably? LoL Ya, he _probably_ would have some things to say about culture. What an insightful comment.
@muraddiab6393
@muraddiab6393 4 жыл бұрын
His widow said he would cringe if he knew how much of a celebrity writer bro his death made him.
@Loomr
@Loomr 4 жыл бұрын
Actually in 2008 Facebook had already been up and public for ~2 years, twitter for ~2-3 years. For games WoW had been out for 4 years, CS for 8. Vine does not matter, instagram isn't that important either. Also, there were many other services resembling these two in 2000-2008. What changed were the hordes of annoying normies that began to enter the internet. Also maybe more thots than even before began to pimp themselves on it. Thus DFW probably already saw what the internet was about. So you are not that special just having used these shallow commercial services and they are not that different from the ones that existed before them.
@harleycynofficial
@harleycynofficial 3 жыл бұрын
"When people stop talking, their brains start to work." -- Douglas Adams
@informalliteraryexperiments
@informalliteraryexperiments 11 ай бұрын
Nice.
@BrendaSchwab
@BrendaSchwab 4 жыл бұрын
2020 where my algorithm-riders at
@patchesmalonescolorfulthin9313
@patchesmalonescolorfulthin9313 4 жыл бұрын
Hand raises slowly**
@mrengulfeddirector
@mrengulfeddirector 4 жыл бұрын
Ayyy we have no control party time
@nicomurder
@nicomurder 4 жыл бұрын
Oy wey
@TheAZElele
@TheAZElele 4 жыл бұрын
💃🏾💃🏾💃🏾
@gorgolyt
@gorgolyt 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly think it sent me here because I was watching The Office clips and David Wallace is a character.
@SamuelDaram
@SamuelDaram 14 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for uploading these DFW interviews. These are so precious.
@michaelwilliamson2255
@michaelwilliamson2255 6 жыл бұрын
What an incredible piece to think about and comment on. I am going to have to save this and write about it. I guess this is what literary and social criticism is about. RIP Mr. Foster.
@pierrehome-douglas7785
@pierrehome-douglas7785 2 жыл бұрын
Boy, what he says back then (when was this--almost 20 years ago?) rings SO true today as people become more addicted to their cellphones and can't go 30 seconds without amusing/entertaining themselves. Sitting down and focussing on a challenging novel today. As they say in New York, for 99 percent of the people, fuggedaboutit. I wish I had had the pleasure of knowing this man.
@EdDunkle
@EdDunkle Жыл бұрын
I knew someone at Pomona College who used to smoke cigarettes with him. She said he was a very nice guy. That's as close as I ever got.
@murdermygymsox
@murdermygymsox 11 жыл бұрын
I was tempted to close my Internet window because this video was taking "too long" too load. I'm glad I stayed to watch the whole thing.
@NiePieerdol
@NiePieerdol 4 жыл бұрын
That's old school
@beflygelt
@beflygelt 4 жыл бұрын
the part about your brain yearning for silence when it's been fed a lot of stimuli rings very true with me. Maybe it was because I was looking at DFW's glasses but the analogy of the muscles in your eye was an immediate comparison. There's two muscles, one which makes your pupil wide and one which makes it small - when it's just the same muscle working the whole time the other one gets weak and you become shortsighted. Which also rings very true to me as a metaphor, you loose the ability to think further ahead, and you get headaches.
@nealg3546
@nealg3546 4 жыл бұрын
The bit in Infinite Jest about videophony is so relevant now to the Teams/Zoom Invasiveness of the stay-at-home life.
@Patrick-od2bd
@Patrick-od2bd 2 жыл бұрын
Nice profile pic of a fine chap of a dog lol
@drakedoragon3026
@drakedoragon3026 5 жыл бұрын
I perfect example of fears of being along is solitary confinement... act up and we'll make you be with yourself. That's why it's so important to be with yourself as much as possible.
@motzke08
@motzke08 13 жыл бұрын
Wow, he has such an pleasant voice, I could listen for hours.
@Maggieokeefevideo
@Maggieokeefevideo 4 жыл бұрын
so true - just read on his wiki that he was in his college's glee club :D
@darraghfarrell2245
@darraghfarrell2245 4 жыл бұрын
Being alone and it being quiet is the reason I love reading.
@matthewgordonpettipas6773
@matthewgordonpettipas6773 Жыл бұрын
Amen!
@Louieman
@Louieman 12 жыл бұрын
wow, so insightful and spot-on. And the humble, depressingly-tinged "I dunno" at the end really sums it up best. Patience, thoughtfulness, the commitment to time--they're all being bullied and subverted in modern culture. It's so sad
@pineapplegirl01
@pineapplegirl01 11 жыл бұрын
Even when he talked he just said things so beautifully
@dougwolfe1711
@dougwolfe1711 8 жыл бұрын
had to replay that video about ten times cause i kept being distracted
@WhatIsDreampunk
@WhatIsDreampunk 5 жыл бұрын
Ugh, that's horrible. 😑 My situation wasn't much better though. I watched this 4-minute video over a period of about 18 hours because I kept getting pulled away from it by external demands.
@davidanderson4729
@davidanderson4729 5 жыл бұрын
Rather ironic
@eddygci8
@eddygci8 4 жыл бұрын
Because it’s very boring
@dewanmdurnto3592
@dewanmdurnto3592 4 жыл бұрын
@@eddygci8 true,
@eddygci8
@eddygci8 4 жыл бұрын
Small Dolphin duh what?
@ouroboros98
@ouroboros98 12 жыл бұрын
beautiful, gifted man. I could listen to him for hours. It seems that in his final days, he had begun to feel that his literary style had become a gimmick and lost its vitality. I would only say that Infinite Jest is the most ambitious book I have ever read, and if the style became a gimmick in the end, it was worth it for this work alone.
@dipper0yawn
@dipper0yawn 4 жыл бұрын
I like his humility.
@mattsspats
@mattsspats 13 жыл бұрын
truely heartbreaking to have lost him. Just read a passage in Infinite Jest where he is describing depression, clearly his depression and his suffering was so profound, all the more profound because of his ability to articulate it.
@mick5137
@mick5137 4 жыл бұрын
He could articulate his suffering - and he could spell truly.
@matthewbritt8498
@matthewbritt8498 9 жыл бұрын
So so so so true. And this is becoming more and more apparent and more of an issue today
@jmorrisspeaking
@jmorrisspeaking 11 жыл бұрын
a moment of silence is still on my bucket list
@telephilia
@telephilia 13 жыл бұрын
One of the great minds of his generation. He will be missed.
@user-ys7vg2xh2k
@user-ys7vg2xh2k 4 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine read Infinite Jest last year, and he had to go back to various points in the novel many times to try and fully grasp his own interpretation on what David was trying to say. He's still on the fence about the book to be honest, and I haven't read it yet. I'm just amazed that David finished something like that (along with his later works) with so much darkness in him. I imagine that he had to struggle with many demons every time he sat down to put words to paper.
@descriptionsuchandsuch4709
@descriptionsuchandsuch4709 4 жыл бұрын
isn't that a good thing? If one needs a lot of time to decide it something is good or bad? Most Art today can be consumed, immediately judged and than discarded (forgotten). If he's on the fence about that book it might mean that he has to reevaluate his metric of what constitutes a good book. In my opinion that is what defines great art: It forces us to evaluate our position relative to it. It presents us with a problem and in order to solve it, we sometimes have to change ourselves. It could at least mean the understanding that things are not necessarily only in one of the two categories we call "good" and "bad".
@heeheehawhawheehee
@heeheehawhawheehee 4 жыл бұрын
Its about an infinite amount of jest
@OneManArmy1421
@OneManArmy1421 4 жыл бұрын
I read it during the pandemic and just finished. It was three months well spent.
@dpolitz4
@dpolitz4 3 жыл бұрын
“There are quiet places also in the mind,” he said, meditatively. “But we build bandstand and factories on them. Deliberately-to put a stop to the quietness. We don’t like the quietness. All the thoughts, all the preoccupation in my head-round and round continually.” He made a circular motion with his hands. “And the jazz bands, the music hall songs, the boys shouting the news. What’s it all for? To put an end to the quiet, to break it up and disperse it, to pretend at any cost it isn’t there. Ah, but it is, it is there, in spite of everything, at the back of everything. Lying awake at night, sometimes-not restlessly, but serenely, waiting for sleep-the quiet re-establishes itself, piece by piece; all the broken bits, all the fragments of it we’ve been so busily dispersing all day long. It re-establishes itself, an inward quiet, like this outward quiet of grass and trees. It fills one, it grows -a crystal quiet, a growing expanding crystal. It grows, it becomes more perfect; it is beautiful and terrifying, yes, terrifying, as well as beautiful. For one’s alone in the crystal and there’s no support from outside, there’s nothing external and important, nothing external and trivial to pull oneself up by or to stand up, superiorly, contemptuously, so that one can look down. There’s nothing to laugh at or feel enthusiastic about. But the quiet grows and grows. Beautifully and unbearably. And at last you are conscious of something approaching; it is almost a faint sound of footsteps. Something inexpressibly lovely and wonderful advances through the crystal, nearer, nearer. And oh, inexpressibly terrifying. For if it were to touch you, if it were to seize and engulf you, you’d die; all the regular habitual, daily part of you would die. There would be and end of bandstands and whizzing factories, and one would have to begin living arduously in the quiet, arduously n some strange unheard-of manner. Nearer, nearer come the steps; but one can’t face the advancing thing. One daren’t. It’s too terrifying; it’s too painful to die. Quickly, before it is too late, start the factory wheels, bang the drum, blow up the saxophone. Think of the women you’d like to sleep with, the schemes for making money, the gossip about your friends, the last outrage of the politicians. Anything for a diversion. Break the silence, smash the crystal to pieces. There, it lies in bits; it is easily broken, hard to build up and easy to break. And the steps? Ah, those have taken themselves off, double quick. Double quick, they were gone at the flawing of the crystal. And by this time the lovely and terrifying thing is three infinities away, at least. And you lie tranquilly on your bed, thinking of what you’d do if you had ten thousand pounds and of all the fornications you’ll never commit.” ― Aldous Huxley
@jonoruealferez5250
@jonoruealferez5250 Жыл бұрын
Could you please tell me where this quote is from?
@e.e.-wi9ii
@e.e.-wi9ii Ай бұрын
From his novel Antic Hay​@@jonoruealferez5250
@terenceboris851
@terenceboris851 8 жыл бұрын
he's right on. Greater rewards in life require work and focus
@spd13062
@spd13062 11 жыл бұрын
I completely understand DFW's ideas on quiet....my wife and I were getting gas at a local Shell station last weekend and the pump we were on suddenly (very loudly) began giving us NFL updates as soon as we engaged the pump with an ATM card. The same news was being piped in (very loudly) to anyone else getting gas. A symphony of NFL news. I lamented to my wonderful wife that we can't even get gas without an amazing amount of noise. It bugs me.
@Earbly
@Earbly 7 жыл бұрын
If you watch the full interview, the cameraman gets all pissy at one point because David keeps "moving back and forth, in and out and frame." As a photographer it just pains me that he didn't think to maybe move the camera back for more space in the frame. It should be intuition. The guy was a real prick and made me feel bad for David. Like it's not the person who's being interviewed's job to worry about framing issues. Anyway, great interview.
@connorsullivan9287
@connorsullivan9287 4 жыл бұрын
skin09588 At the 9:23 mark of the uncut interview: KZbin.com/watch?v=iGLzWdT7vGc
@DanielBoonelight
@DanielBoonelight 4 жыл бұрын
@@connorsullivan9287 his response to the miserable prick is absolute perfection "i would trade places with you at any time" ~ which is ironically also true of most anyone watching this video, who'd kill to be that videographer.
@CGMiller
@CGMiller 3 жыл бұрын
Ugh yes I can't stand that part. It's like dude... his face is barely fitting into the frame half the time... zoom out or back up or something... sheeshhhhhh
@KingMinosxxvi
@KingMinosxxvi 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you David. I didn't finish your book (about half)......but I love you.
@gaminawulfsdottir3253
@gaminawulfsdottir3253 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed what he said about things that are hard and involving a certain amount of drudgery yielding satisfaction in the end.
@BlueArcStreaming
@BlueArcStreaming 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, this is fascinating. Brilliant man.
@jakkelyd
@jakkelyd 14 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this upload!
@onecentnickel
@onecentnickel 10 жыл бұрын
I think partly what he's trying to conclude with the portion where he talks about inner complexities not being fed enough. We all have this sort of wiry inside of our minds, and clearing it and digging through it, and analyzing it takes time but provides a clearing of the entanglement within us. Many people I think are scared of what they will find, or that they will be incapable of doing it, and so they never start, and ignore the hardship that they may have to endure. So the corporations (such a cliche way to put it sorry) and things for profit create a fast paced environment, a sort of turnabout setup where we drive in and out, but always come full circle and never really get anywhere, we never dig deep enough.
@tomaszstefaniuk9449
@tomaszstefaniuk9449 4 жыл бұрын
Such an inteligent, sensitive human being!
@VertPimpin
@VertPimpin 7 жыл бұрын
One of the good ones. RIP
@nicorose4814
@nicorose4814 4 жыл бұрын
Way ahead of his time. Such a wise pov
@Trishreda
@Trishreda 4 жыл бұрын
I loved him so
@little1wing
@little1wing Жыл бұрын
He said what I'd been trying to describe to people but couldn't. This is true gold.
@informalliteraryexperiments
@informalliteraryexperiments 11 ай бұрын
Agreed.
@roryhigsmit
@roryhigsmit 4 жыл бұрын
can't stop touching his nose bless him
@cterrel
@cterrel 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like I should be stealing second when I watch him
@cuauhtemocornelas5107
@cuauhtemocornelas5107 2 жыл бұрын
Gone but never forgotten
@ENigma-um8zw
@ENigma-um8zw 4 жыл бұрын
He was too good, miss him.
@benhall1741
@benhall1741 4 жыл бұрын
Love this man.
@charlie5thumbs351
@charlie5thumbs351 5 жыл бұрын
I really wish I could have met this man.
@tc9634
@tc9634 4 жыл бұрын
I think certain computer games, because of the interactive nature have perhaps helped create a new, or recreate that ability in the consumer of art (in its broadest definition of creative media) to put work into gaining more satisfaction out of it. Plenty of games try to do little more than recreate an action movie, which is fine and they have their place, but for example the Harry potter books, films and games - I can go back and read/watch/play through them all and love it and I really enjoy the depth of knowledge and immersion I have about that universe. Or EVE Online which is such an open-ended game there are still new ... Careers/activities both within and outside the game mechanics being thought up. I remember my first time exploring low sec, null sec, wormhole space, first time of faction warfare, first PvP fight, first time in a stealth bomber, first time bombing some miners in wh space and stealing I think a few hundred mil isk of loot, and the depth of the universe, the depth of the fact that I had had to earn all the money I had to buy all the shit I had to do all the things I did. Of course it's only natural if you go from stationary art (books, photographs) and introduce the magic of cinema and then TV and music and sound to accompany it, and make it so easily available and accessible, that the mass consumer will adapt but I think we are starting to see both counter-examples and examples of other better things. Every new medium introduces at first hype, euphoria, addiction and eventually adaptation and integration. When TV became mainstream people used to watch hours a day, now I think perhaps because of streaming there is so much choice that people have to be picky. And you could argue that just looking at reviews like Rotten Tomatoes to gauge if it's worth watching is a cheap shortcut to discovering that peice of art for yourself. But people have always done the same thing with books and films and TV shows. You know, people have always been addictive and addicted. Around the turn of the century in Britain we had simultaneous gambling, alcohol, tobacco, cocaine, opium etc. Addictions on scales unseen since. It's not new, it's just different.
@billmyers991
@billmyers991 4 жыл бұрын
The famine of the “small quiet voice"
@acropolisnow9466
@acropolisnow9466 4 жыл бұрын
Man, you can say that again.
@billmyers991
@billmyers991 4 жыл бұрын
@Adam Sloan you're starving for silence, the vibration of nature, but you've been irradiated in digital information, to the point where you can't sleep, take back your life before it's too late
@bigboysdotcom745
@bigboysdotcom745 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the specific advice, mr guru. I'll get on "taking back my life" ASAP.
@Chosen_One
@Chosen_One 4 жыл бұрын
I just can't believe that there's an actually David Wallace. I have no idea why this came on my suggested videos
@XanderDoesThings
@XanderDoesThings 4 жыл бұрын
It makes itself felt in the body.
@rokeeffe91
@rokeeffe91 11 жыл бұрын
Could be just me, but when he suddenly smiles when he says "drudgery" @ 1:52 caught me so off guard, my heart damn near leapt out of my chest!
@CroMarduk
@CroMarduk 8 жыл бұрын
I remember when I've read Brothers Karamazov, that book literally changed me, in a way that I cannot explain....
@m.davidmccormick7062
@m.davidmccormick7062 6 жыл бұрын
I understand the feeling. Infinite Jest changed me.
@julioguadamuz5727
@julioguadamuz5727 6 жыл бұрын
"Twenty-three years passed. I am sitting one morning in my study, a white-haired old man, when there walks into the room a blooming young man, whom I should never have recognised, but he held up his finger and said, laughing, 'Gott der Vater, Gott der Sohn, and Gott der heilige Geist. I have just arrived and have come to thank you for that pound of nuts, for no one else ever bought me a pound of nuts; you are the only one that ever did. ' then I remembered my happy youth and the poor child in the yard, without boots on his feet, and my heart was touched and I said, 'You are a grateful young man, for you have remembered all your life the pound of nuts I bought you in your childhood. ' And I embraced him and blessed him. And I shed tears. He laughed, but he shed tears, too..." The Brothers Karamazov Fiodor M. Dostoyesvski :(
@YodasPapa
@YodasPapa 6 жыл бұрын
That's god damn beautiful.
@patriciakedeni
@patriciakedeni 4 жыл бұрын
How I wished he had lived for another 30 years, at least. Now we are left to lament the lost body of work he could have given this world.
@oulipolesceptique9449
@oulipolesceptique9449 4 жыл бұрын
We are changing rapidly as a species --they way we choose to consume information, the value or lack of value we assign to it. The way we make decisions, the way we think about ourselves and other people. We're getting very good at some skills and completely losing others. It's accelerating at a quicker pace all the time. Scary. DFW saw this.
@Artzineonline
@Artzineonline 14 жыл бұрын
@thisisgrey "It is unimaginably hard to do this, to stay conscious and alive, day in and day out." -DFW Superficiality, I suppose is a way out of this responsibility. His novel Infinite Jest illustrates this point. The Novel is "deep" but it's also FUN to read, so the answer, I imagine, is to try to reach a balance of both.
@smooothstepper
@smooothstepper 4 жыл бұрын
You cannot do it without both. We are all alive because we enjoy living even if it sometimes takes the better of us. But sometimes when we lose the balance and only want to ENJOY LIFE then our life becomes troubling to us and there seems no point. Most people solve problems like these subconsciously but some don't.
@Artzineonline
@Artzineonline 14 жыл бұрын
@thisisgrey Thanks for commenting. Mr. Wallace bravely prospered as a writer, DESPITE a debilitating illness. He tragically succumbed to this illness, but I'm sure he never capitulated on any of his convictions.
@tomaszstefaniuk9449
@tomaszstefaniuk9449 3 жыл бұрын
Words of wisdom
@longcastle4863
@longcastle4863 8 жыл бұрын
Really like these comments Wallace makes in these 4 minutes.
@exit13productions50
@exit13productions50 7 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with basically everything he's saying. Very well said.
@acetate909
@acetate909 5 жыл бұрын
What don't you agree with.
@alexandernagel8205
@alexandernagel8205 4 жыл бұрын
I have a friend who teaches high school in Long Beach and he has a pretty bitter and realistic picture of the education system. He just doesn’t expect his students to do the assigned reading anymore when you’re worried about feeding your family. I saw plenty of bright, bright people continue to fail in my SI and tutoring sessions simply because they were never given the opportunity to acquire the necessary skills. It’s a systemic sort of thing that I can’t think too much on because if I do well.... I get pretty depressed....
@mick5137
@mick5137 4 жыл бұрын
Those immortal words from John Taylor Gatto about the school system: don't try to reform it because it does exactly what it was designed to do.
@alexandernagel8205
@alexandernagel8205 4 жыл бұрын
Michael H man... it is a system
@Rayndrops
@Rayndrops 11 жыл бұрын
You don't have to be alone to read-not if you're with another person who is also reading.
@EdDunkle
@EdDunkle Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but that's the dream isn't it?
@pentelegomenon1175
@pentelegomenon1175 4 жыл бұрын
Northrop Frye once said that books are the most technologically efficient machine that man has ever invented, it's still oddly true even with the concerted effort in recent years to replace them with audiobooks and e-readers, in addition to just the internet in general which can create a lot of unhappiness in someone like me who is a reader but also an addictive personality.
@hanawana
@hanawana 4 жыл бұрын
beautiful Minded man
@dogwalk3
@dogwalk3 4 жыл бұрын
wish we could have seen him interact with eckhart tolle, or his take on 2020.
@naveedwantt2846
@naveedwantt2846 4 жыл бұрын
that i don't know at the end though
@Misserbi
@Misserbi 11 ай бұрын
I think there are two types of audiences: 1) The ones who buy what is out and come back to it. The sophists and such who are driven by the latest and greatest -- who make waves. 2) The ones who sit inside a small niche making it seem like everything worth anything is unearthed. 3) Then you have the classical, romance, foreign, and other genrists (including the deceased writers club) who are well versed in everthing else. I think the third group is the used book store enthusiasts who have a wealth of literature at their disposal that has already survived the test of time.
@1dbanner
@1dbanner 4 жыл бұрын
The dread of quiet is the root of so many bad choices
@davidanderson4729
@davidanderson4729 5 жыл бұрын
The Pale King, though unfinished, was about this very topic. How to sit, be quiet, focus, and dread and tedium and repetition. Good read, and again, though unfinished, I'd recommend to serious readers.
@DavidLoveOfficial
@DavidLoveOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
What a brilliant mind & soul, I am excited to read some of his work. Any recommendations?
@MM-hc1cq
@MM-hc1cq 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not a huge fan of large chunks of Infinite Jest but there's about 400 pages of stuff I like in there, especially the Don Gately rehab stuff. Try reading one of his short story collections - Oblivion might be the most accessible. I'm a fan of his short form work and I think what he finished of The Pale King was phenomenal.
@OneManArmy1421
@OneManArmy1421 4 жыл бұрын
“Up, Simba” or the essay collections “Consider the Lobster” or “A Supposedly Fun Thing I’ll Never Do Again”
@DarkMuj
@DarkMuj 3 жыл бұрын
Ignore these pussies. Read infinite jest, be a real man.
@pam0626
@pam0626 4 жыл бұрын
He is so right about commercial literature. If it’s a book that’s sold in an airport newsstand, I don’t want it. It’s too quick; too easy. Reading should be work; it should be challenging, it should make you dig deep. A good book lives in the quiet.
@smaller_cathedrals
@smaller_cathedrals 9 ай бұрын
What a load of crap.
@TheChuckfuc
@TheChuckfuc 4 жыл бұрын
For me it's more boredom and being scared of quiet. I really enjoy reading and feel good about myself afterwards, but it is like going to the gym for me. It's work.
@RiqandRyan
@RiqandRyan 12 жыл бұрын
"I don't know..." is how I end all my thoughts too. Great insights, David :3
@fos8789
@fos8789 4 жыл бұрын
I cant stop wondering what DFW would have think of social media.
@tpstrat14
@tpstrat14 4 жыл бұрын
I've thought this for ten years. Everywhere plays music and I hate it. I the notion that I need music force fed to me while I shop or eat something.
@starczarar
@starczarar 4 жыл бұрын
Where is the full version?
@kevinmurphy8868
@kevinmurphy8868 4 жыл бұрын
Idk why this was on my homepage at 2 am but this is some real shit
@kingcole55
@kingcole55 4 жыл бұрын
This man touches his face constantly
@BertBerg
@BertBerg 13 жыл бұрын
@bbasement yep, thanks!
@Slntb
@Slntb 13 жыл бұрын
@scrumpyJ5 That's from lullaby.
@davemanley1129
@davemanley1129 12 жыл бұрын
If you all appreciated David Foster Wallace's words, you should check out the book "Reaching Out" by Henri Nouwen.
@kucftbueouy9902
@kucftbueouy9902 4 жыл бұрын
If you liked this, you should watch the movie Slacker from 1991.
@carbine125
@carbine125 13 жыл бұрын
Voice sounds reminded me of James Ellroy. Different of course and kinda soothing.
@JD37
@JD37 4 жыл бұрын
That DOES make whole lot of sense.
@coolpiza
@coolpiza 14 жыл бұрын
God, he was so, so, so, so, so smart.
@rigsby1454
@rigsby1454 4 жыл бұрын
DFW was a big King fan as well
@leonconnelly5303
@leonconnelly5303 10 ай бұрын
I get a sense of dread from reading books quiet often, usually if its something I dont like, I think its cause the words in a book are so solemn and lifeless and uniform, but when read they create another world.
@1990calum
@1990calum 4 жыл бұрын
That man is extremely wise.
@drieaz
@drieaz 6 жыл бұрын
Will never forget my first reading of the metamorphosis (Kafka) and I couldn’t stop laughing. It was a very fulfilling experience. That level of genius must be super rare.
@herrklamm1454
@herrklamm1454 4 жыл бұрын
alex drieaz really? The metamorphosis made me feel uneasy from start to finish.
@drieaz
@drieaz 4 жыл бұрын
@@herrklamm1454 i'm totally serious...Foster Wallace talks about Kafka as a comic writer too! i didn't want the story to end...read it a second time and didn't have the same laughs the second time around...
@raz8752
@raz8752 2 жыл бұрын
The metamorphosis is so depressing, yet there’s a strange comedic flow to it. Kafka’s so good at mixing emotions and tones like that!
@wejw14
@wejw14 Жыл бұрын
It's a really funny story, which was suprising
@alexcross5
@alexcross5 8 жыл бұрын
'Commercial' fiction can be very fun to read, but I've never heard someone say that a James Patterson or John Grisham book changed their life. However, a work of great literature can change how you see the world. I have a simple philosophy: a good book is a good book. Whether it's a classic from 100 years ago or a contemporary fantasy novel, a good book is a good book.
@scotch1993
@scotch1993 8 жыл бұрын
+Alex Cross I would have to slightly disagree, because I strongly believe that any book has the power to change a life, as even commercial books, to some, can be powerful like DFW to others. For instance, I will greatly say that Stephen King's books have changed my life. It was his short non-fiction work On Writing which really helped me figure out the idea of pursuing a career in Education.
@alexcross5
@alexcross5 8 жыл бұрын
***** I totally understand; On Writing is said to be one of the best books on the craft of writing. I'm just speaking in generalities. I think it is safe to say that Dostoevsky and Steinbeck are more likely to be 'life changing' than Tom Clancy and John Grisham. But, as I said, a good book is a good book, regardless of popularity or genre.
@scotch1993
@scotch1993 8 жыл бұрын
+Alex Cross Right, I do agree that these monumental authors do have a greater impact than, say, James Patterson or Nicholas Sparks.
@serban8298
@serban8298 2 жыл бұрын
Harry Potter and Stephen King changed my life!
@nickp131
@nickp131 4 жыл бұрын
this man was so thoughtful and observant. His death was tragic.
@imp.r
@imp.r 10 жыл бұрын
I think it's easier than that. The written word, except when explicitly and purposefully conveying information, is art. This is the reason why, for example, painting lingers. You can't nudge writing out of the way using HD screens for the same reason writing can't displace sculpting, or painting, or music or dancing -- art isn't subject to the number of pixels on your screen.
@WilliamGarland
@WilliamGarland 11 жыл бұрын
One does not often find pictures of abstract concepts.
@mikesmith-pj7xz
@mikesmith-pj7xz 4 жыл бұрын
Funny that in the preface to a later edition of the Lyrical Ballads Wordsworth said society was becoming to fast, too interested in noise, gossip and the sensational at the expense of the contemplative and the stillness of reflection. And in Exactitude, Calvino describes what he calls a plague afflicting humanity in its most distinctive quality, speech, and that was written circa 1980 give or take a few years.
@Forehead2Brick
@Forehead2Brick 13 жыл бұрын
It's hard for me to imagine him without his bandana.
@holy_shushcabin3716
@holy_shushcabin3716 4 жыл бұрын
We experience an information overload every time we unlock our phones. Snapchat stories, Instagram stories, and Facebook stories (notice a pattern?) deliver ephemeral, brief content - too long and it becomes suspiciously unorthodox and loses its appeal to a frantic audience. Stories also prevent a backlog of information.
@zenmcsardo
@zenmcsardo 12 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with you. Would be really grate if we can listen Palahniuk opinion about DFW, or DFW opinion about Palahniuk, because I didn't find anything about a connection between them..
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