ARV's Most Expensive Mistake

[@reubenshetler944]

I didn't hear anything describing an actual "Mistake"... this is the cost of research. We know ARV will benefit from knowledge and understanding gained by building this prototype even if it didn't result directly in a system that could be put into production. We appreciate all you do to advance the state of the art in your vans.

[@BennyMack]

Click baity title and thumbnail...

[@helenholt1161]

@@BennyMack No, the design wasn't performing up to their standard so it was an expensive fail.

[@MagnoliaEmporium]

I think one of my most favorite things about your company is the amount of time, energy.... and money that you put into development of new products or testing of other new products, before they are fully implemented into full production. To me that is why you are truly getting full value for every $ spent in a custom order.. xoxo Randolph

[@rvboondocker2559]

Hey Mike, thanks for sharing! I have always been a huge proponent of organic lithium-ion phosphate batteries, but there is a maximum weight limit that we can carry in our custom vans as well. What I have in my van is one with naturally safe chemistry paired with an internal shut down curtain technology inside each lithium cell, preventing any flame or explosion from thermal runaway events. Happy holidays!

[@as6709]

Keep pushing the envelope ARV - always striving - super impressive!

[@stevetag6572]

Lithionics Battery uses the same tests, but performed by Underwriter Labs.

[@kimhollon4736]

Thanks for sharing. I love your constant attention to improvement and humility

[@g6pintoj]

I wouldn't call it risk. I call it research. Research is an investment.

[@traveldreamer4616]

No risk, no reward. Nice video. Continue to push the envelope.

[@Adam_Gray]

As in life, the same goes for business, you have to be willing to step outside our comfort zone to get anywhere and make the magic happen! The future is a lot nearer than we think ⚡

[@jontodd9408]

Kind of what Edson said about finding what would and would not work when trying to create the first light bulb. “I know 9,999 ways that it will not work.”

[@CJ30123]

i cant figure out what people are doing in these things to need more than 10 kwh. Then of course the bigger battery the longer the engine has to run to charge it with the 2nd alternator.

[@dlg5485]

Since you're driving to your destination anyway, the engine will be running regardless, so that doesn't make a lot of sense. The benefit to more capacity is longer battery life after you arrive at your destination, which means you can have less solar (or none at all) and still have plenty of power for all of your needs.

[@CJ30123]

@@dlg5485 you guys drive everyday? Whats the point of a vacation then? Have you ever done the math on how long you have to drive to charge even a 10kwh pack? Let alone 15kwh? For a 10kwh pack it would be around 3 hours of drive time with the max 2nd alternator on the market which is 280 amps per hour. 4.5 hours for a 15kwh battery. 6 hours for 20kwh. And keep in mind this assume high rev driving not idling. I can make a safe bet that few people even consider this. All just to run the A/C. So strange to me but people will waste money how they see fit.

[@nashdashflash]

@@CJ30123 they do make 24v and 48v alternators as well.

[@dlg5485]

@@nashdashflash I think ARV only installs 48 volt systems now. This is likely why their systems perform better than what is available off the shelf.

[@CJ30123]

@@DC-ul3wq Volta actually uses a smaller amperage alternator running at higher voltage. 120 amps at 48v. This slightly lowers charge time. 2 hours for 10kwh. 3 hours for 15kwh. And again this is high rev drive time. Idle time is much longer. Simple math.

[@alliejr]

Bravo!!!

[@rd4660]

Very cool!

[@PaulMullane-c1n]

ARV rocks!

[@LJ-jq8og]

Cool !

[@dukelane3954]

Why not use VOLTA ?

[@dlg5485]

I suspect it is less expensive to design and build their own battery systems, as opposed to buying a costly system off the self. ARV can also be more innovative in their design, ultimately arriving at something that is better than pre-packaged systems. I believe ARV also installs 48 volt systems, not the typical 12 volt.

[@CJ30123]

They likely want a custom physical size more than anything. And since it appears they are fully building their own batteries from individual cells they are saving tons of money which means more profit.

[@stevetag6572]

Volta is the same chemistry. The cells Mike is testing is NMC and so is Volta.

[@suny1265]

"Heat Exchangers" are just Aluminium Plates ? No they are not. I am seriously concerned about your safety regarding battery Paks.

[@aberdeendeltaforce]

I wonder if he has learned that in just 50 years after his death no one will know he ever existed. They don't teach you that at business school. Let that sink in for minute? Life is worth more than all the money in the world and any Billion air on their death bed will tell you that. Money should never get in the way of innovation and creation but in the world we live in now it does to our extinction level detriment.

[@aberdeendeltaforce]

@@Pler1978 If you think life has any meaning then that is your problem not mine, which was my point in the OP.

[@dlg5485]

With that genius perspective, you must be a titan of industry, right?

[@aberdeendeltaforce]

@@dlg5485 Name me 5 of your favourite so called titans of industry and I'll get back to you just so we know what page we are on.

[@dlg5485]

@@aberdeendeltaforce I'm not interested in playing your silly game

[@aberdeendeltaforce]

@@dlg5485 😂