ASG 29E outlanding

EGC 2009 Nitra, Finnish glider pilot outlanded to the backyard in Brusno/Slovakia
• ASG 29E outlanding wit... same video with english subtitles

[@LSVFlachkurbler]

thanks for having the courage to upload this video. Good education for other gliders with engine on board. To all the blabla people here commenting bad on this video: Go home and play with your RC planes.

[@peterhupka2025]

Your last sentence in the comment was as unnecessary as this accident. It´s the pilot´s responsibility to think in advance and to use the engine at the height (and over the terrain) you still can outland, not to sink it into a village and then be surprised. Nice, that he posted it, but otherwise totally avoidable accident. Sure any of us can got into a trouble any day, especially at the competitions, but still we have to do our best and try to avoid the bad decisions!

[@richarddavis7778]

I once spent an evening spellbound by the recollections of one of the greatest glider pilots ever. He told a graphic tale of a desperate attempt to start the engine as he descended towards an unlandable area, only being successful in the very last few seconds. It seemed to me then, as it does now, that glider pilots would not paint themselves into such a corner without a back-up, so they lull themselves into a false sense of security. Similarly, I have shared numerous thermals with other gliders in complete safety, but once flew with a very good but aggressive pilot in a thermal where the other machines were coming far too close for comfort. His response to my concern was '...that is why you wear a parachute...'. Just food for thought.....

[@tedgoodman]

Short translation: the pilot met a strong ascending airflow (6 - 8 m/s, around 1500ft/min?) and lost the most of the control of his plane. The motor did not start. He aimed for the fields you have noticed but was not able to glide there. He also mentions that he dumped or had earlier dumped the water and hit a power line before crash. So, I am not glider pilot, but it looks like a typical aviation accident: a sum of several reasons. All of them could be handled if met one by one.

[@henriksoderstrom8551]

What I hear him say is he met mega sink, not lift. Lift would have been welcome...

[@martinkopplow]

If afterwards you can't use the glider anymore, it is not actually an outlanding, but a simply a crash ...

[@danielhermanus6909]

any landing you can walk away from..

[@MarkJWilliams0]

@@danielhermanus6909 You might want to raise your standards :p

An astute observation.

[@henrikcarlsen1881]

This is not an outlanding! it's a crash landing. There's a subtile difference in that the ASG glider is wrecked. Hope the pilot is okay

[@warraweewildcats8660]

Why on earth did he not land into the long field on the other side of the river? That's the trouble with relying on engines: If he did not have one, he would (hopefully) have chosen a field much earlier.

[@kangaroocharly]

if I crash a sophisticated glider like this one, I don't stand around discussing all the details with the media; and looking like I can afford to buy a new one tomorrow !! Instead I look like I'm stupid, pick up all the pieces , and try and vacate the scene as best I can

[@ollymetcalfe1]

So why did he land in the garden when there were large open areas of grass either side of it?

[@BillPalmer]

Deploying the engine adds a lot of drag. This is the paradox of. motor glider: if the engine doesn’t start, now you’re REALLY coming down, therefore the engine start needs to happen be in plenty of time to safely continue the landing without power. Also, this glider has an 18m (60 ft) wingspan, so lateral clearance is important. this makes most roads unsuitable due to numerous poles and markers along the road that can’t be seen from the air.

[@kolbenfresser9108]

Everything you mentioned is correct and i would like to add that an engine makes the glider heavier, resulting in more energy carried when flying with the same speed as a glider without engine. Usually the speed has to be even higher because of the heavier plane, resulting in even more energy. Because of this noticeable difference in Energy, you need a significantly longer Paddock than without the engine.

[@amandasailing]

SilentWings wind indicator is not from IGC file or from real life. Pilot landed upwind.

[@tedgoodman]

correction: descending. sorry for my bad english!

[@LS8eighteen]

Some people have more money than brains. He tried to start the engine too late and did not put emphasis on flying and landing the glider. The glider was worth about $200k before the incident.

[@LSVFlachkurbler]

Herbert, I disagree. I am sure such stupid mistakes can happen to anyone. I own a self launcher and in competitions you will never use the engine if you have any chance to find a thermal, so you will maybe start it in 200m AGL (yes, I know its wrong but thats the way reality plays in competitions). So the workload is extreme in the case the engine does not start. You can see in the film, that Jari even tried to retract the engine again as far as he could to increase is glide angle but obviously, he also hit a strong sink. The bottom line is, that douzens of pilot died in circumstances where you could always say afterwards: He should have done this or that and then he would be fine. Most of them where pilots with tons of experience like Holighaus, Reichmann etc. and it was all simple pilot error. How many pilots died in the Alpes because the hit the mountains ? Would it not be so easy to simply stay further away and maybe accept 0.5m/s less updraft ? If you want to be fast you have to increase risc. Increasing skills are not used to fly safer, but to fly faster. Its really funny if some people here check google earth and think they know where they would have put the plane down.

[@nomissy1]

LSVFlachkurbler I fly gliders without engine, but pilots who fly the ASG 29 and people with self launchers have explained it to me this way: You can use the engine in low altitude, but you ALWAYS need a field for an outlanding in case the engine don't work. And those people win competitions without risking their lives more than neccecary. Everyone makes mistakes, but if you do the same mistake twice or risk a crash on purpose, you're just a bad pilot.

[@everythingyoudwanttoknow]

Not the first time this pilot lands on "exotic places". Like last minute on small road already on a final to a lake. Was an excellent landing though :)

[@smcrey53]

No second guessing, you walked away! It is a tribute to your ability to adjust to conditions.

[@eugeniobb]

looks like the wings and rear fuselage absorbed most of the energy, luky dude!

[@jgmendes3664]

Very lucky being alive !!

[@FlightVideoPhoto]

but there is a big grass field near the landing place!

[@jangrebe3148]

Every landing you are walking away of is a good landing

[@helipilot727]

A landing you can walk away from is a crash landing. A good landing the plane survives too.

[@henrikcarlsen1881]

No, they are not. This is a bad landing that he survived. That doesn't make it good.

[@brunovinyl]

@@henrikcarlsen1881 Its a good crash as we may say .

[@julianday]

All the large fields that were suitable to land in but pressed on regardless.

[@Lawiah0]

Another example of someone who is able to afford to destroy another plane.

[@andrewnorgrove6487]

I don't understand what happened? Did you turn rather than nose down straight ahead ? sorry about you glider sir I'm just in the process of purchasing a pipistrel .

[@F3FisGoodforYou]

Nothing that Duck Tape can't fix.

[@tangosoaring1181]

The dude didn’t even put the gear down....

[@AlesLjubljana]

Lucky you. You could be dead if you hit firewood. In Slovenia, the pilot outside the airport landing hit a tree and the site was dead.

[@Smartathanyou]

Knucklehead. "Duhhh, I'll just pass these open fields on the way to somebody''s backyard."

[@Flugfritze96]

normally you start the engine with enough high reserve and when there are any problems with the engine you can still choose a big field... i dont understand finnish but he had could land in the field 100 meters away :D

[@OzParkPilot]

No possible to " power up " ??

[@amandasailing]

The engine did not start.

[@capnordest]

Nowhere on the simulated flight at the end did I see anything near to -6 to -8 m/s on the vario until he hit the ground!

[@jeyapaulsamathanam7057]

Outlanding means hard landing ? Subtitles in English would be helpful.

[@amandasailing]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4imf4OEgsebotk

[@helipilot727]

No pattern... would not call it an out landing but a crash landing. Lucky!

[@hinz1]

If you are a filthy rich billionaire, you can do that every day without flinching ;-D

[@badman5509]

If you can no longer reach the good fields with this plane, you have done something wrong before. Clearly a mistake of the pilot!

[@isaiahphillip4112]

"outlanding"...

[@Ramiiam]

She looks pissed off.

[@tomjdesigns1280]

wrong title - should be crash not outlanding. Glad that he did not kill anyone and himself, only wife is a bit pissed off.

[@crlguitar1]

What a pity....I remember my instructor telling me that you can pilot here....or pile it there....Something like that....

[@andrewjarvis3516]

Do you suppose the insurance paid out? And if so, the rest of the gliding community ( in that country) ends up contributing!

[@lekseys]

the Condor simulator

[@gregorkoch8931]

Am Start nur mitleidige Blicke für meine Ka6, aber beim "Abstürzen" ist sie unschlagbar.

[@keithdouglass3618]

😆🐨👍good not hurt. back to kit form. Keith Australia

[@stealhty1]

Use your engine, fly away out of trouble and Compete another day

[@mauritsvanderpol7415]

Looks like he tried but was unable to start the motor....

[@gypsyspirit4380]

Mr Cool ditches his kite in a veg patch.....shed doesn't look too healthy either...lol...

[@jeanorwin]

Any landing you walk away from is a good one - I guess.

[@researchcapt]

Not when you destroy an aircraft.

[@Giovanniram22]

Nooo! Pitty for the glider but the important think is that pilot is Ok. Man. I had return trips with broken rc models and i was upset for weeks. I can only immagine the filings of the pilot. These gliders are very expensive.

[@amandasailing]

There is video with english subtitles kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4imf4OEgsebotk

[@f16sal]

Jari Pakkanen Basic rule nr. 1: never trust your engine. Basic rule nr. 2: Always have a landing field well within gliding distance when trying to start your engine.. It's sad to see our wonderful sport is represented by pilots not honouring these basic rules..

[@limavadylad]

Glad the pilots okay ... but the poor glider :'( expensive little bump lol

[@ferrarigirl666]

ductape you mean? :D

[@grahamlwilson]

OH Buggar! you are going need a lot of glue to fix that.

[@yxhankun]

where can I download the software to play stimulation? please!

[@jamiel66]

well u think that because u dont speak finnish... what the pilot said it that an amazingly large downdraft made the the aircraft almost un controllable :P

[@amandasailing]

The insurance company bought the glider...

[@julesviolin]

No I think WE bought the glider with our increased insurance premiums.

[@andreasstahel]

He tried to land into my garden !

I think he was trying to get it in your garage - you should have left the doors open.

[@lu123lu1]

ce n'est pas l'esprit de vol à vole , mais une fantaisie de riche

[@IksinskiTomek]

a byl tak blisko.... tylko rzeczke przeskoczyc, jedna miedze i zaraz pole, miekkie dopiero co zaorane.... a tu krzaki..... ups.....

[@viktoradam3195]

Tomu se říká lidská blbost a neodpovědnost. Podobné stroje vyrábíme v HPH, ale ne každý si je může koupit. Jedná se o větroně, kdy pilot používá motor pouze v nouzi. To není aerotaxi, ale špičkový závodní stroj!!!!!

[@Funraiser]

Instead of choosing a good landing spot, the pilot just landed in front of him....darwinian selection at work here...

[@Ripstop_pilot]

obviously got his licence from toys r us!

[@borutzerjav]

Kam ga je sparkiral, zraven pa "letališče".

[@ferrarigirl666]

auw, not the best place for a landing... bad you didn't make it on the field on the right of you :(

[@jantarglider]

a potem do malara i za 2 tygodnie bedzie jak nowy

[@gypsyspirit4380]

Nah...too boring...better to try and stick it down in a veg patch....shame about the shed tho'.....