FURRY explains the New Zealand FURRY DRAMA

[@thetokutickler]

People: *draw cartoon animals* Politicians: And we took that personally

[@unknown_raven975]

Yep, imagine getting mad over a person draw cartoon animals for fun

[@thunderrain789]

Mind you these are probably the same people who thought video games were turning people into violent monsters. Was silly then and is silly now.

[@mothballswallower]

*cartoon anthropomorphic animals

[@unknownsoldier4156]

As someone who's not a furry, politicians should be very careful calling out furries, after all a good majorities are in the IT industry like you said. OH BOIIII

[@wolfgamer8770]

As rslash once said "Don't mess with the IT guy."

[@unknownsoldier4156]

@@wolfgamer8770 Dang right

[@OctoomyYTOfficial]

let alone, the tax payers union shouldn't have a word in it.

[@ianmcmurchie6636]

These tax clowns are saying “You need opinions from the other side!” do they mean furry haters in the IT community? I mean they exist on paper but hey, I’m an IT furry and I have not yet met one.

[@Ender-bg2hx]

If I’m not mistaken there are some Furries that are in the military too,I’ve seen images of Furries in military gear and just messing around with firearms

[@BiodegradableYTP]

Out-of-touch politicians trying to wrestle with the internet will always be hilarious.

[@Oceanbrave]

Because the internet is a series of tubes

[@BiodegradableYTP]

"The internet is not a big truck!"

[@ekholocation4574]

i love how politicians see furries as extremists even though it’s a hobby

[@AshCoyote]

I just dont get it

[@PingerSurprise]

Especially extremists themselves. Oh the irony.

[@invaderhorizongreen8168]

it is a super fun hobby, what is not to like about that.

[@sobu_hasy]

Most of these politicians that calls us "extremists" are really extremists themselves that are refusing to respect the COVID measures and to vaccinate!

[@eeeby_deeby]

@@sobu_hasy yeah

[@SiebayRoo]

“We don’t hate furries, but why should they get ANY recognition whatsoever?” Like, who asked for your opinion?

[@ShockburnVR]

i see that as an angry kid stomping their feet: "WHY DIDNT I GET A PICTURE TAKEN, WHY DIDNT I GET ASKED STUFF"

[@bingobunny7862]

@@ShockburnVR yeah for real.

[@baron494]

Drama is probably the wrong word to use lol. They came at us, and we were just having a laugh about it

[@PingerSurprise]

That's called clickbait. And it works for her so I'm not complaining :P

[@kaiyotee2475]

Like but at 69

[@granolarookanga3030]

Before this even premiers, lemme say this was the New Zealand Tax Payers Union coming after us for literally no reason, and the furs were just tryna stand our ground.

[@workinprogress9793]

I remember an article talking about how they literally picked a losing battle when furs from New Zealand started joining the argument.

[@sythe2802]

Well hello granola lol

[@FreeTrojanVirusFoM]

Being a Furry is a hobby, not a political ideology lmao. Maybe it should be? Furry party when?

[@malice6081]

If we decide that our votes would actualy count there could be enough votes for it to get funding

[@stalkercodmzeantifur3952]

In hell furry

[@booyahboogie3350]

imagine having a furry president

[@booyahboogie3350]

That be so cool

[@GanymedeTheCorgiCat]

We need a furry party now!!!

[@workinprogress9793]

"Drama"? Nah, we steamrolled the Tax Payer's Union into the ground.

[@AshCoyote]

TRUTH

[@cyberjackal774]

In summary: how dare people have hobbies and use their own money that they were paid with to buy perfectly legal things on their own time.

[@carolthearcticfox330]

You know there’re both Lefty furs and Righty furs in the fandom. I think as long as someone isn’t hurting anyone. I shouldn’t hate them.

[@SquirrelTheorist]

Beautifully put!!! You're amazing. Hugs and a Subway (youtube-style) Sub to you! UwU

[@carolthearcticfox330]

@Fær Zizh I wish it was still like that. I joined trying because the community was welcoming.

[@ansrfururactions]

Good point but *THERE'RE*

[@OntoBunny]

I can't wait to see the reactions of these furry haters when a flying saucer lands on the white house lawn and a bunch of smexy anthros step out and say 'we come in peace, UwU. Take us to your dom wolf daddy.

[@fenrir5741]

Because who knows maybe aliens were actually shape shifting anthros and that is what the Egyptians were worshipping

[@OntoBunny]

@@fenrir5741 🧐 After decades of dedicated research and archeological exploration, it is my expert opinion that the pyramids were built 20,000 years ago by a superior race of furries with the intent to bring on a nUwU world order of peace and pwospewity. 🌎 🤝 They unfortunately underestimated the unending stupidity of the human species. 😕

[@marcusthefurrie7463]

I for one welcome that idea , but if that doesn't happen people shall fear the day i create a legion of furrie and become the god of a new world

[@marcusthefurrie7463]

@@fenrir5741 justin will you join the order of fur

[@lostinthestars_]

I sure hope that never happens lmao

[@notecat7785]

If it a global furry conspiracy theory i want to be a tall sexy dragon

[@slasherthedragon9781]

Me too

[@pyrasthegoat4270]

This is the classical example of "drawing a sword on a fly", or in this case drawing a nuke that ended up blowing in their own face. Besides its absurdity, the taxpayer's union press release also so riddled with logical fallacies that it baffles me that anyone would take it seriously (divine fallacy, strawman arguments, appeal to ignorance just to name a few). I guess this is a good place to learn how NOT to make an argument without getting laughed in your own face.

[@vylbird8014]

I think it's been a big success to them. They've gone from obscure to a joke, and even being a joke still gets people to read their website and maybe find things to agree with. As a pressure group that needs public awareness, it is better to be mocked then to be unknown.

[@CloudCuckooCountry]

*Governments rort billions of dollars each to corrupt corporations* conservatives: i sleep *New Zealand government give $300K grant to a show that runs one article on furries* conservatives: REAL SHIT

[@sophiefox2620]

Hey hey, transfemme NZ furry here To add, they also fund a TERF group in New Zealand called Speak Up for Women. We also have infursec in NZ which is more of an event and meet for IT furs :D

[@cultistaautista]

That's not surprising considering such politicians constantly ally with TERFs just on the sole fact that they both hate trans people. This one thing is enough of a reason to forget that otherwise they have polar oppisote views on everything else. Which is why they are just worthless and can bring nothing to the political sphere except for trying to make a single minor group suffer. Seriously, I have a bizzare experience, having used to support so called "right"-oriented groups and they seemed fine about 10 years ago or something, talking about economics, freedoms, politics, history, ideologies, religions, art and stuff like that, until everything just devolved into alliances with TERFs and sole demonic hatred against trans people and other LGBT+ grops occasionally. I'm not a hypocrite or flagellant, and don't have a kink for conversion therapy, so there's no way I'd stay with those things I can't even call people any more. Time shows the true spirit and face of all

[@matheussanthiago9685]

hate enjoys company so it seems huh

[@ri0tgh0ooul89]

It all just feels like thinly veiled queerphobia... as usual lol

[@AshCoyote]

Yeah I mean ultimately thats what its about

[@thespartangamer9022]

I left the Twitter part of this fandom because of stuff like this. It just gets incredibly frustrating and draining. And unbelievably stupid.

[@DaxterL]

leaving twitter in general is something i'd recommend to anyone

[@Prootgen]

Same

[@ProtoAzula]

Thats why i choose to ignore the ignorance, because ignorance about ignorance is double the bliss

[@thespartangamer9022]

@Saint That's just how twitter is unfortunately. Everybody there just craves attention. Its genuinely sad.

[@dishonestswit869]

Everything is to bizarre on this planet.

[@Sal_The_Third]

Furry Drama in New Zealand? Oh boy 😓

[@BooftheBou]

I'm the latex horse in the picture there was no way I was gonna pass that up. Bait or not boost or not I'm on twitter for fun and you bet I had fun with it lol. Best part is the original picture has me doing the circle game "gottem" on it. It's glorious.

[@marcusthefurrie7463]

Wait I Know you

[@danielcrawford4141]

Those “taxpayers” really do be digging their own grave

[@axellmao197]

i didn’t even know this was a thing but i’m intrigued 👀

[@devinkii1727]

Fuckin same

[@The_Arcadian]

This makes perfect sense. To The Right furries are just an extension of LGBT+ community but attacking furries gives them plausible deniability. Attacking LGBT+ outright looks bad over there and isn’t socially excepted so hit the furries instead.

[@AnEntropyFan]

You're giving them too much credit. Conservatives are massive fragile snowflakes and incredible cowards, they are genuinely upset by and afraid of anything that doesn't look like what they see in the mirror each morning.

[@eikomint]

How are furries part of LGBT lmao they're not a sexuality?

[@The_Arcadian]

@@eikomint because a large contingent of the furry community is LGBT+ the right wing thinks all furries are LGBT+. No one ever said the mind of the right wing was a logical place.

[@BustyBraixen]

@@eikomint as a straight furry, I'm actually in the minority within the furry community. LGBT furries make up like 2 thirds of the fandom.

[@AnEntropyFan]

@@eikomint How? The same way hybrid electric cars and soy are "homosexual" to conservatives... You are looking for rationality in a fundamentally irrational, anti-scientific, non-empirical and ahistorical belief system. Good luck.

[@royalwolfess]

As someone who is a New Zealander (and a Furry) all I can say is wow... Just wow... I'm honestly ashamed and embarrased- I am very sorry ;w;

[@rowbot5555]

As a NZ fur as well, it's really silly and wacky

[@Nerodotnet]

Also a NZ fur.. literally just what

[@Someoneisntthere]

Also nz furry! Hello fellow nz furs

[@thenamesniva5193]

*The drama was started by politicians* Well that’s weird “People are funding pro-furry *propaganda* “ Okay this is getting comical *articles get made about it* It’s just too funny now

[@AshCoyote]

Its the most broken circle of drama ever

[@matheussanthiago9685]

so what's the furry agenda again? it's to just spread the pathOwOgen right?

[@graveyardshift2100]

Dragon tiger hybrid sounds cool.

[@AshCoyote]

IKR

[@docopoper]

I do love seeing people underestimate just how powerful and difficult to assail the furry fandom is. x3 Also it says a lot about the scale of the fandom that we're becoming a political topic. While this topic was probably bait and has probably boosted the membership of this party, it was also good press for the fandom from the sound of it.

[@GueyDuck13]

As a kiwi I always find it fun when New Zealand get mentioned but conservatives are the cringest

[@royalwolfess]

As a fellow Kiwi, I couldn't agree more U-U

[@wrex4699]

I already read about this on Google it's hilarious how misinformed and stupid the taxpayer union is and they still keep going despite everyone seeing they're wrong and cringe.

[@Fuzzi999]

The "Taxpayer's Union" has no affiliation with the NZ Govt and is a rightwing pressure group funded by american conservatives

[@wrex4699]

@@Fuzzi999 Yeah that's what I meant to say.

[@AshCoyote]

Its kinda painful tbh

[@eriottomakurashi]

@@Fuzzi999 i am glad its just a group, or else i would just laugh my ass off so badly that i would ended up in the hospital

[@savvythedivineyethuggable7493]

@@Fuzzi999 Umm, is there any actual proof of that?

[@bibby659]

I feel like any group that uses "Taxpayer" in it makes them feel like their supposed to be taken more seriously or that they should be above everyone else in their opinion because they have "Taxpayer" in the title of their group

[@fenrir5741]

They are not even tax payers considering they are all conservatives they are probably tax evasion experts

[@bibby659]

@@fenrir5741 True...but again, it goes back to them just using it as a title to try and justify their points.

[@Dragonorder18]

Mmm. Yeah. it does seem like Twitter's become an echo chamber of bad ideas these days. I tend to keep away from that platform. And with what I do watch, I try and keep balanced so I know the "Other side" Of things. It's not easy, and I am sure I get some wrong ideas too, but I try and keep it honest.

[@docopoper]

Avoiding Twitter is a great decision for your mental health. Why spend time where all the stupid arguments start?

[@anaustraliankiwi3833]

As a New Zealander and a furry this kinda pisses me off

[@mcdstudios-kalanimcd9528]

Are you in the New Zealand telegram group?

[@sythe2802]

@@mcdstudios-kalanimcd9528 Well hello kalan

[@oldinactiveaccount]

I can’t go anywhere without seeing a country human I think I have a problem

[@docopoper]

Aww, that outro was really sweet. Thank you for all the years of improving the fandom.

[@RacletteLynx]

Great having some clarification!

[@AshCoyote]

I am so glad you enjoyed it

[@the_burito3996]

That dumbest part is that EVERYTHING they say can be proven wrong with “that’s not true” and “this doesn’t actually effect you so why do you care?”

[@HugoPegler]

I think the funniest thing is that I'm an NZ furry, and I didn't even know this group existed until that whole fiasco Talk about Streisand Effect

[@anthrolitestudios]

Boy how wacky

[@rowbot5555]

Same lmao

[@october3122]

One time I got a really inappropriate comment on my Twitter, and I just blocked them. Didn't respond didn't retweet just blocked. If somebody makes you uncomfortable online don't give them the time of day.

[@mattyfox_]

I'm from New Zealand but I had no idea about this

[@tip2k1]

Wait. Am I a furry because I work with computers? Or do I work with computers because I'm a furry?

[@Apollo_Vanron]

I told my mother about this. She laughed. It's like firing someone for model railroading on their own time.

[@alpha-wolf-plays]

I can't even read that with a straight face holy s*** that made me laugh thanks Ash

[@bingobunny7862]

Not only are a ton of Furries in IT and do "run the internet"... if we began in the 80s, we were some of the pioneers and settlers of the internet.

[@matheussanthiago9685]

imagine an old weary cowboy furry like ''son, this land was tamed by our ancestors UwU''

[@leopossum3130]

Best furry drama of the week!! How long ago was it that furries were in the news because cops got trolled by us? 😂

[@gabrieleriva_bboykappside]

Politicians talking to each other be like: "don't you just hate it when some people draw anthropomorphic creatures and gather at conventions wearing costumes? " "yea"

[@mysticwolf2842]

Love your articles! As Furries we do form a loose community and can help each other, and where so many furries work the IT systems all it would take would be to flip a few switches here and there and shut the whole thing down. What the government should do is just leave the furries alone, we are not bothering anyone or causing any harm, heck we can even put on a pretty darn good show as well.

[@rowbot5555]

Newzealand furry drama? I live in new Zealand! Wait I'm a. Furry! Aaa

[@MilkshakeSkunkette]

oh man this was a shitstorm XD As a fellow new Zealand furry, this was just a hillarious start to 2022 \o/

[@dogfizsh]

Me: *lives in NZ and sees this on my recommended* Me: "Oh no"

[@BigCountryAz]

Why they mad at furries? It's funny and interesting to watch them act like weirdos. I love furries

[@marcusthefurrie7463]

Those music playlists you got are pretty good bro

[@randomraven2519]

Now imagine if the world ended or some apocalypse happened now. Are these kind of arguments gonna be our legacy lol? Imagine if in a million years some alien species comes here and start to research this civilization that once roamed this planet; first they're gonna be confused as hell about the ski jumping towers, but when they find out that we all died while having arguments like this they're just gonna be disappointed.

[@Absbor]

conspiracy theorist: "Taxes go to making fursuits!" Me: "Is that a promise?"

[@squidfly6_editss]

This was all over the news for me in Australia, everyone was going off their rocker. Bitching about this and starting drama. I would rather get back to watching news about a kid that went missing and STILL isn’t found.

[@demm5]

_Internet cuts off_ Me: "Damn furries"

[@ianmcmurchie6636]

“The other side” of the IT community does not appear to exist relative to furry IT people. I say this as an IT professional. Even people deep into other hobbies are cool with us in the industry.

[@nomuom2086]

Gotta love how whoever wrote that article knows that hybrids are a thing. Most people don't know that. They know something.

[@marcusthefurrie7463]

They're probably suffering self realization that they're a furrie in denial

[@addchannelname6628]

"new Zealand taxpayers union got rationed on Twitter by furries" priceless

[@mysticcheats]

I'm actually from New Zealand and didn't here about this until I watched this-

[@dandavis1923]

Yes as always very much appreciate the knowledge you share, this was so helpful. I personally am still learning. Only been on the internet for 2 years now. Thanks Ash yes we must stick together, strength in furries! Loveing the community and its many surprises...

[@clifffrench8085]

Lol shit I would love to get a new suit with my taxes rather pay the ass hats in the government! Lol

[@AshCoyote]

Moods

[@spahghettiboi4150]

They're just malding because furries are having higher wages than them. XD

[@notafurry3813]

I normally love new Zealand, the culture, the people, the landscape, the food, heck, my middle name is Māori, but what the hell? All of this is so stupid. It's a hobby, and under the suit and art we are real people with real jobs who pay taxes (I hope). Just because we are a fandom does not make us different in any important way.

[@gorenerd]

Gotta love the food. *cries in allergic to crustations*

[@notafurry3813]

@@gorenerd Ohh, that sucks man

[@gorenerd]

@@notafurry3813 ikr. I actually live in New Zealand aswell so everyone makes fun of me lmao

[@yuuma465]

Nice to see Ash with her fangs out in this vid 😉

[@AshCoyote]

Ikr it's a little bit of a different look for me 😂

[@mr.raptor9997]

The internet isn't the only thing we control... Better be nice if you want your car fixed 😈 lol

[@shamrockwolf2032]

Tbh it is truly ridiculous that people would basically judge others for a hobby that makes you happy and gets you through what you go through

[@furrysunny1300]

I'm so ahead of time. I didn't even use Facebook, when it was cool.😎 Wich was like over a decade ago.

[@brickinacup6303]

person: draws cartoon politicians: [confused screaming]

[@DaEpikMan]

As an Australian… New Zealand, I know we’re screwed up… but really?

[@mintgaming9198]

"We kinda run the internet" Nonono, you'd inherit the internet. 4Chan runs the internet.

[@cassiebelmont993]

Furry fandom predates 4 Chan by decades. There were likely furs who helped make the internet in the first place.

[@mintgaming9198]

@@cassiebelmont993 Reading that as an unironic statement is painful.

[@cassiebelmont993]

@@mintgaming9198 ?

[@jlbeeen]

I would love to actually see data on furries in IT. I'm getting a tech degree this year, so I know I'm one. (And I do have a fursuit I made, I just didn't switch to that account).

[@irisprotogen4917]

What makes this so funny is that the politicians are trying to solve a problem that isn't there. I almost died of laughing when I thought about this!

[@primedvalkyr5993]

Very good video, thank you.

[@AshCoyote]

Glad you liked it!

[@00Skyfox]

Hey Ash, what ever happened to the Furry Film Festival? I just recently watched F3 2019 and 2020, but there's no mention of 2021 or future years in the plans.

[@starlightfox1211]

now what? what will be added to our long list of crimes i wonder

[@Fauna_CR]

Honestly as far as "drama" goes this really isn't anything really that bad, and that's saying something since I normally can't handle anything of that sort. Main jist is that a right wing group got upset because an article said something vaguely positive about furries, and now they're getting ratio'd on twitter.

[@matheussanthiago9685]

they'll blame the sinking of USS Maine on furries

[@TheGlowingBeansGuy]

Every time I see politicians try to be a part of the internet world and share thier "legitimate" knowledge about it, the Circus Music starts to play in my head

[@lashyndragon]

6:38 Wait until they find out a large portion of furries are also bronies tho

[@amzarnacht6710]

Furries are nerds... nerds built the internet. Ergo, furries run the internet? Folks, they work on your car, too, or drive that semi bringing stuff to your local mal wart... they're not limited to a single demographic though, admittedly, they tend to gravitate to jobs that make use of their brains (by the large furries are more educated than the average person, and considerably more so than the typical sports fan) per the International Anthropomorphic Research Project (IARP) which has studied the fandom for the last decade or so.

[@matheussanthiago9685]

furry Tyler Durden - "Remember this. The people you're trying to step on, we're everyone you depend on. We're the ones who do your laundry and cook your food and serve your dinner. We make your bed. We guard you while you're asleep. oWo"

[@NovahShark]

The time old question arises. Was it the furries who have the drama, or is it New Zealand?

[@whoahanant]

From what I read it's more like some random group in New Zealand and not the furries lol the furries just responded lol

[@NovahShark]

@@whoahanant oh, ok. Thanks for informing me and have a nice day

[@mcdstudios-kalanimcd9528]

@@NovahShark the NZ taxpayers union attacked us

[@FoxxoArts]

Nz fur here 👀👀👀 I'm keen to see what this video will be

[@thatkiwiguy.738]

On behalf of the NZTU I apologize.

[@ferricyanide3386]

So, how many furries commented their fursonas in the ‚you can‘t resist propaganda‘ meme format?

[@pounderpolizzo7269]

I'm a conservative and a furry and it's just a hobby for me

[@OntoBunny]

I wonder if furries are going to be the next culture-war fixation for the right wing. Fox NUwUs will be so twiggered!

[@AshCoyote]

I could see it because they are running out of things to be mad at

[@OntoBunny]

@@AshCoyote Gotta have a fresh supply of red meat for the base. Furries would keep them grouchy for months. My guess is that most of them have some repressed kinks buried deep in their unconscious.

[@KEM0N0]

I'm right wing, I don't remember that ever being a focus.

[@Xerkus]

Here is my new conspiracy theory: shadow government is real and it is femboy foxes of the fandom.

[@jonathankruger6356]

Im sorry but you made me cry. Not because of the political stuff or the drama But because of a your mannerisms and even your laugh remind me of beloved people I have lost, and sadly with the memories comes the pain of losing them

[@icybeckastudios]

It's so heartwarming to see furries taking a W and conservative media taking an L. This video made my morning, and gave me a better way to respond to a bad take :)

[@shipuku0305]

i got a furry dating site ad before this video even started lol

[@cassiebelmont993]

8:30 True, though what would a US tax funded fur suit be like?

[@moonstraka]

we just wanna chill in our own corner but everyone decides to bother us lmao

[@Yvaine.c]

As someone who is a new zealander, IM SO SORRY. IM A FURRY MYSELF AND THIS IS LEGIT CRAZY

[@phantomtempest264]

I hate how conservatives just hate on furries cuz they cant accept that respecting is a thing

[@joeyrony2887]

I watch a lot of experts talk about stuff in their field and honestly I dident think furries would fit in that category but it surprisingly does.

[@Blaze_The_Fire_Wolf]

First time seeing this article recommended to me BY Google I didn’t wanna bother especially propaganda damn, I’m with you Ash I’m sticking to your side, best advice be a critical thinker don’t believe in every Post or article about furries.

[@chlorie0w061]

Ha ha, she said knot and that is a pen is part of a dog. X3

[@WorldinRooView]

Let's play the Price is Right! I'm currently writing up an article on how much this article cost the New Zealand tax payer in government subsidies. Let's see who can get the closest without going over!

[@rougenaxela]

12:02 Can we just appreciate the phrase "global furry underbelly"? It just makes me think belly scritches.

[@HBKLog]

Banger video as always ash

[@protoretro1290]

That mention of "Dragon-Tiger Hybrids" seems oddly specific

[@lolitisjustme]

A rabid pack of furries- LMBO, IM ROLLING ON THE FLOOR 😂 😂 😂 😂

[@christopherfrahn9838]

I was literally browsing my articles when I saw an article on the drama and started mumbling to myself at how dumb the situation was. Never really went further than the article cause I knew it was stupid and this video actually confirmed that fact for me and I found it entertaining imo