Ashley's Story: The Softball League

[@doseyjosey1010]

When he did the voice note thing I criiiiiiinged

[@lucasorow5844]

Why do they cut off the phone call so fast? I wish we could hear the whole thing

[@frenchbluehen]

He's such a liar.

[@reneewynn7278]

Why cut off the conservation between the husband and wife? We wanted to hear more.

[@Owenx44x]

As soon as he said are you going to have a return address it was a red flag and this guy is going to be paying for 18 years for that child and house lol

[@crystalclimenhage7159]

She should call up Sarah and freak out on her

[@kenzieshaye6818]

Wow that guy is disgusting. To talk about the mother of your kid with such disrespect and gaslight her and say it’s all her fault? Disgusting

[@mattisongraham4355]

An entire loser 😩😩😩

[@dawncummings3595]

Wow he's blaming the radio station for being a cheating loser. Way to take accountability lol. I hope she has a good divorce attorney.

[@KristinHall0918]

Everyone missed when mojo accidentally called the wife Sarah lol

[@Madefromscratchhomestead]

lol only gonna cost you your marriage 😂

[@coleb4991]

When ya catch someone like this red-handed cheating, do not speak with that person. They do not deserve a conversation. Change the locks and file.

[@engineeringforall2559]

Background music is too loud. Could barely understand what the woman was saying

[@mythoughts6922]

He is a master gaslighter! Well once his wife leaves, pursues a divorce, socks it to him with child support.... hopefully he cheats on Sarah, and everything explodes at work.

[@roxiereinart-ko4ew]

Gaslighter I hope she leaves him

[@dougmurray3692]

No matter what we want to make of what the guy said, are we really serious--women aren't different after a pregnancy. Is this what we do? Even you guys have talked about this as fact. Now, it's not a thing. And your co-host talking abt being angry b/c she's having her period. But "women aren't different enough to create a cause for why a guy would do this? Well, here's some empathy from a man. Women change a lot after pushing a "watermelon"out of their vagina. Many have mood swings, post partum depression, need sleep, and there are secondary occurrences; continued bleeding, baby weight (that many use as an excuse so they don't have to lose it), etc, and he gets zero attention, which is understandable. I'm not advocating for him but I sure wouldn't say I support her either. No woman "deserves" to be cheated on. But this is the consequential risk with monogamy. If you want to marry a woman, you need others. Otherwise, stick to your word. As a woman, you know men need what they need 2wice a week. So why the shock when he goes elsewhere. Take away the religion, and the jaw sticking it's nose in where it doesn't belong (due to religion) and who tf are you to make demands on him of this kind? I suppose this is the same root of logic that says you can abort "your" child, and he should shut his mouth about it, but he'll be on the hook for support to keep it alive, right? Such bullsh't. But these mindsets overlap, justify selective sides and don't reflect reality. Just b/c you have no desire and CAN'T have sex means he gets to be celibate. My view won't be popular, and he shouldn't have cheated. Ever looked at that word; cheat? Men began cheating when WOMEN made rules that were unnatural and told men not to "cheat". The game has been rigged for at least hundreds of years. Even an imbecile can see the issue with laws and religions poking their noses into our lives, our honesty and even the sex we have, telling us it's some kind of "sin" to have more than one person. Such garbage. So, what's your position? Let me help. Are you annoyed by what I wrote, or agreeable? That response says it all. "Right" or "wrong" aside, it's the agreements we make that make the difference. Betrayal is the real issue. But let's go back to the unreasonable nature of the agreements in the first place. We've got a long way to go. Try to catch up.

[@Mscavalli2]

While I can I agree with most things you said , but having sex with more than one person is disgusting whole in a committed relationship!

[@dougmurray3692]

@Mscavalli2 Alright, isolating that view does make it appear correct, and I don't disagree with your view. But what of the 'committing' part? I've studied this for a long time, decades, and the issue is in the view itself. You can't isolate it from the flow of the 'whole'. Men must commit, while women typically have finished being what they were, which in turn, leads to having the child. On the other hand, men are told to change their ways by women, instead of finding the correct guy who has the type of personality she wants. This goes back to, "I can change him," which most know is a lost battle. You don't change men. Men typically don't play with dolls, being programmed to have a family, and they end up pining for what they want, and to hell with what the guy wants. The wedding day is known as, what? HER "big day". Again, this is typical and not the absolute rule. This is the game that goes on. Men "cheat" b/c they don't know the rules to the game women are constructed in their heads, but are held accountable to those rules; unspoken and unseen within the conditions. In the beginning, it's "You better not cheat on me. I give you lots of sex so there's no reason to cheat." He agrees. And then a stipulation arises that he has to wait for months to have sex, out of nowhere. Why do I say, "out of nowhere"? B/C she didn't prep him for the pregnancy and tell him how sexual frequency would change due to having a baby. There are diff versions of sex and NONE seem to be available to him now. The "you get it enough" thing is still in his head, and hasn't changed. Now, she has a baby (and he gets that things a diff) but she sold him on only the good things abt having a kid, and not abt all the negatives he'd have to tolerate once she got pregnant. It doesn't begin when she HAS the baby. She; the pregnant woman, starts to change just after the pregnancy begins. And it's a bomb that gets dropped on him "out of nowhere" b/c he thought it would be a short time AFTER the birth, not for 15 months after she found out. He waits for the day he can have sex again and then finds out that ain't happenin'. Now, what? Now, he can just wait until... whenever?? And who knows when that'll be. There is no fairness in this. It has to weigh heavy on her side b/c "Poor her, she's pregnant," like she's some kind of invalid now. She's not! But the majority will say he can just put up with it. Bullsh't. That's a religious mindset coming into our lives again, like it has throughout history, telling us what's "sinful" when the real fact is that siding by the religious rule makes you a follower. That's it. There is no sin attached to it. But she'll leverage that to show how bad he is, and keep all the planning between her, her friends, her mother, aunts, and everybody else, who connives to convince him to want to have a child. And then she'll tell him things will change but leaves out what he values most--sex. I've been around it, seen it, witnessed the strategy, watched it play out, and then...watched women DENY that they do this. More bullsh't. Most women don't have the guts to be real wives or partners, and it doesn't matter if they are married or not. This game is played by women, w)o the precursor; married women, single women, nice women, etc. Women do this. Men can't. The real issue is the betrayal that women piggyback their arguments on. They are self-centered thinking men are the first to betray when "cheating" but we won't talk abt the hidden manipulation with others, the conspiratorial planning behind his back, the unspoken rules she wants to invoke, and so on. THAT betrayal isn't included in the reasons women can see in themselves for why he cheated. No, it's all on him. I'm a rare man, I understand exactly how it works. Now, of course, these are the cliff notes. There's WAY more to it. Women just aren't as smart as they think they are in this "game", and men aren't "sinners" b/c they go outside of the relationship. But that is what they will be in the marriage set-up as women try to stop men from being men. Then if men don't obey, she has the law to tell HIM she will take half, he'll pay alimony, child support, and take "his" kids. But those kids are only "his" when she needs leverage. Otherwise, they are her kids even to the original position of getting pregnant, "my body, my choice." It's not as simple as him "cheating", but that's the big issue, and she now begins to dictate his life and FORCE him to change. And if she doesn't get her way, Daddy can pull out the rifle to justify the union. It isn't called a "shotgun wedding" b/c this threat didn't exist. It did. "Oh, but times have changed!" Yes, and women are still the same in the respects I've noted. They want their cake and to eat it too. They will do what it takes to have their way, and then become complacent abt THEIR responsibilities. I could go on for hours. The reality is women have had it their way for far too long and the foundation was always built on sand.

[@ashbashas]

What a jerk

[@loriandrews1447]

My ex husband cheated on me years ago i caught him and i left we are divorced hes been married several times after me but he cheated on them to hes got a cheating problem

[@dougmurray3692]

You're about to start your period? Because why, your biology causes your behaviour to change? Women have always said this, and things like post partum depression don't exist? Seriously?? Every woman talks about how she's changed b/c of not just the pregnancy itself, but through each trimester, and MANY changes occur, mentally, physically, and emotionally. Ever hear of women who kill their babies after wanting one for do long? Is that even in the realm of normal? Of course not. I'm not saying he isn't cheating, however, his words should be telling her something and maybe that's perfectly valid. But to hear, "I'm about to be on my period" as this is being examined as a possibility, is ridiculous. I feel like I'm in the fckin' Twilight Zone with this nonsense. "Women aren't diff after a pregnancy." No, not at all. And wet noodles make a great building structure, birds usually fly upside down, and some men think they can be women. Well, 2 outta 3 ain't bad, right? Normal is changing, and when it does, some forget facts that they knew were real -- like wen behaving, thinking, feeling, acting different as they get pregnant, during pregnancy, and after. Bottom line.

[@kenzieshaye6818]

And none of that is an excuse for her Husband to cheat on her and lie to her. For better or worse are what marriage vows say. If he loved her he would want her to get help if she had depression or postpartum. Ur way out of line blaming her.

[@kenzieshaye6818]

This whole war of the roses phone call is about a narcissist (the guy) trying to twist everything onto the woman and not own up to cheating on her. If your wife has hormones you help her through it and ask her what you can do to help. You don’t go cheat while her and the baby are at home. Sick

[@dougmurray3692]

@@kenzieshaye6818 Right that's exactly what you do. I'm not saying he's not a narcissist, or doing the wrong thing. MY point is most women understand that hormones are sn issue, and when they act a little nuts (and it doesn't have up be pregnancy involved), they will say their hormones are going wild. But when a guy holds them to a possibility that their hormones are wild, they act like it's so out of bounds, so much so that the hostess of the show calls "shots tied, tight there." Yes, "Shots tied" b/c she doesn't get up use it as excuse for the attitude she's been displaying, according to him. Women like to use hormones when it suits them and avoid hormones then they have to be accountable. This is the modern feminist, so strong until they need to be considered "traditional to others to fight their battles for them. They fit perfectly. It's just that his form of narcissism isn't kosher but her's is. Gimme a break. The fact is we don't know for sure if he cheated (prob did, but we don't know), but she absolutely denies that hormones and any other connected issue to pregnancy might be the real issue. It's kind of well documented whether tes cheating or not, and trying to pretend it isn't a thing purs her completely on the hook for her lack of consideration toward the fact that he's being effected a certain way. You think men cheat? Why do women call it that in particular? Ever think about that?? It's b/c relationships became a game to even long ago. They set the rules outside of men's awareness, manipulate conditions, and orchestrate cornering men into having to be married, have kids, and so on. And if he wises up, she can hold him to it using the law to enforce b/c of course the law is srt against men and there is no advantage to men getting married. That's the game and most women know it. So if he takes a shortcut or doesn't follow the "rules" - backed by a legal document, she can hurt him financially for the rest of his life, especially when a kid's involved. What's sick is this game. But take a look on line and you'll see women admitting precisely what I stated for the world to see. There's your sickness. You think God gives a sht if you're married? Has zip to do with anything. But the woman's "big day" is all about her, and eventually men learn that they are only first until the woman can obligate him out of his own free will. You're outta touch if you don't understand this. But I think you do, since you put her responsibility to know herself in him. If she has hormone issues, what's he going to do to help? Use his phD in no medical experience to give her MEDICAL advice?! More modern feminism that makes no sense. Disney has done a real number on women's psyches. Seems you took the bait. RIDICULOUS!

[@dougmurray3692]

@@kenzieshaye6818 I don't 'blame' anybody. But nobody gets to skate on responsibility either. Is he supposed to read minds? None of this was brought up, and if she is having problems, she should do something about it. He can't even be sure b/c he stated that it's "likely" since she had a baby that she is having issues connected to that. He may be right b/c it IS likely, and well known. Doesn't make it absolute but his point is valid. So tell me, how is it that 'better or worse' toward him isn't valid for him to feel a certain way but it's okay for her to feel a certain way? Again, we still don't know if he is cheating. What we know is that he's had to work more. She counters that actually he's cheating., And I'm not saying he's not. But he's intimated that she's acting different which everybody seems to be rejecting. He might be cheating, could be gaslighting. One thing is for sure, men don't go to other women w/o a good reason b/c guess what? There are greater consequences to men in the law, than there are yo women. And even WITH this potential looming, a man cheats?? Men go to other women to get what they assumed they were promised. Then they get married, and realize it's all made up. Sex is a huge one, and once or twice a day becomes once a week. It's a pattern with women and they hate hearing it but try being the guy who's filled and has to live it, locked in by consequence. But men are wising up, and they just aren't putting up with women's sht anymore. Perhaps you've missed the changes that are happening in the world today.

[@annsteapleton5808]

Well if he was my husband, he would not be playing on the ball team any more. Why make a baby with this idiot!!!!

[@loriandrews1447]

Hes lieing

[@louisevillareal1288]

Cheater

[@semperoccultus1969]

Uhm, you don’t send a dozen red roses to “just a friend”. Sorry but he’s at least interested in her, if not cheating. But plenty of women cheat on their husbands so where are the women cheaters being caught?

[@Mscavalli2]

They have women cheaters too!