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[@MediaTerryAllen]

Ashley way to go! BUT!! My great Aunt Lena loved Uncle Lenny, and she was a wise businesswoman. She did not have many of those entanglements - she just connected the dots! She worked with good advisors, yet they also were human and advised her to not take on certain issues! FYI, the "side eye" Dogma you mentioned is a bit off and skewed - All the singers lifted each other with recommendations, networking and many resources including Billie, Freddie, Lena, Harry, Robeson, Hazel, Ethel, Armstrong. The biggest issue among the individuals you have mentioned were they all were victims of self-hatred that undermined the temporary collaborations each of them had! The privileges that every one of them had created private battles with competition and viability because the "mainstream" (white) people in power pitched one black entertainer against another! Love your delivery, Ashley. In terms of presentation!, you rock! But your Facts? Not so much! If you knew real Black History and studied "meritorious manumission" syndrome under racism, you would focus on the Willie Lynch Syndrome type of drama the whites-in-charge created among Black entertainers! Whites chose whites and "lights" over others darker hued Blacks, and those whites were the architects who pitched drama among an already historically traumatized BIPOC (Black folks) entertainers! Try to tell the scandal from the Lion's purview and identify the hunter's fallacies, as Hunters (whites) were the people in power at that time. FYI, the studio heads created the press reports between fake feuds between Dorothy and Lena. Neither Lena nor Dorothy contributed to the H'wood gossip. It was driven solely by white publicists, like Hedda Hopper's and Louella Parson's (The Queens of Hollywood Gossip) & their stories of spin. Do the work, Ashley! Lena's beloved Lenny advised her when to speak and not speak, just for the sake of her career revenue. FYI, Robeson, himself, asked Lena to distance herself from him. Lena, then, contributed $$ to Paul and the Civil rights movement as she earned it! Her mother stopped predators , so she did not sleep with ERRbody as stated! Her dad and later her husband both steadfastly refused & turned down the standard 'black maid" roles. Lena fought back a lot. FYI, ALL. The black entertainers initially refused the first black superstar - Ms Josephine Baker- petition because she had failed to do work for the Black civil rights until much later in the timeline! Ava and Lena were entertainment besties because Lena cussed Sinatra out for Ava. Get the truth, Ashley and keep up the work, Sister friend! Grab Gail Lumet's Book The Hornes!

[@AshleySaysSo20]

Oh wow! Thank you for this information! I'm going to pin your comment so others can see everything you said. 💜💜💜

[@MediaTerryAllen]

@@AshleySaysSo20 You Rock Ashley!

[@queenvictorian5950]

Great comment, I always wonder how people that relay documentary type of info, can speak about people they don't personally know as if the interviewer knows the person of subject or even loved during the time

[@AshleySaysSo20]

@@MediaTerryAllen thank you so much! I appreciate it💓💓💓

[@viodo5895]

@@AshleySaysSo20 I was just commenting on another video about how I love the way you do this. I love in your videos how you just give gossip and I've seen a few videos where family comes along and they state facts or at least their truth and you give them all a voice. It proves that you are exactly what you say you are... a gossip channel that's telling the stories out there and I respect the fact that you let others have a say as well and don't ever argue with them or try to keep their views down. Much Respect Ash💯💯

[@janinelew2483]

Just got through hurricane Ida! I sure needed this video right now. We’re in the dark but thank God we made it.

[@SheTW83]

Thanking God w/ u!!!

[@geminilove8323]

🙏🏾

[@honey_rae_amour]

Blessings to you and your family! Glad yall are ok🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾❤

[@Kirsten.11888]

Prayers for you and your loved ones cousin 💛

[@ibensavage993]

Prayers To You And Your Loved Ones ✨

[@Belovelyava]

Dorothy Dandrige was truly a knockout! Her facial symmetry is impeccable! She would be an A-Lister today!

[@kaylao.3326]

Tia and Tamera look like her

[@tamikachappelle1728]

Right and that is why Lens was jealous of her.

[@fredac8881]

I agree. Ms. Lena was not very attractive to me…just light skinned. I think it was her nose that threw me off…lol. Dorothy Dandridge was GORGEOUS!

[@Beautyishername7777]

@@fredac8881 agreed

[@toughtittypdiddy4634]

@@kaylao.3326 I feel like Dorthy had a face where she looks like a different person depending on the angle the picture is taken from. In the picture Ashly used, to me, she looks like Doja Cat, but then there are other pictures when she looks just like Janet Jackson

[@kingdivostrut]

That damn brown paper bag test messed up the esteem of many generations

[@sebastianefreeman2795]

Like hell it had, and still has

[@naniandnemomommy]

🎯🎯🎯

[@lovetoread9042]

My grandmother and her sister actually were talking and I heard them say she is pretty and got that good hair but she wouldn't have passed the paper bag test back in the day. I remember going to the drawer where the paper bags were and put it by my skin. I didn't allow any of this BS with my children. It is slave mentality and disgusting and ridiculous.

[@ebonynaomi1085]

It was ridiculous.

[@ampollard7041]

@@lovetoread9042 I did the paper bag test too..... as a child, after my g.ma told me about it. It angers me how dark skinned ppl are treated. I believe it's innate jealousy. Dark skin has so many attributes that light & white skin does not.

[@martiwaterman1437]

Hazel Scott could play two pianos at once. She was phenomenal.

[@CodyCole80]

💯 She was extremely talented.

[@NycBeauty]

She is my favorite pianist.

[@Potentialaj]

We need to do better for our darker skinned heroes. 😞😞😞 Lena only gets this much attention because her looks fit the Western standard 🤦🤦🤦

[@IJustCant-jj2rv]

A Trini Goddess!!! 🇹🇹

[@VeeFoster]

@@Potentialaj Agree 100%. Hazel Scott was far more talented than Lena Horne any day.

[@NONDOGG3000]

To have Josephine Baker, Lena Horne, Dorothy Dandrige, Joe Lewis, Bumpy Johnson, Paul Roberson, Duke Ellington, Frank Sinatra, and the Cotton Club all intersect in one vid, is a testimate to your astuteness. Cheers

[@wandahwhetstone1587]

FO SHO JEALOUSY ENVYING HATRED MISERY DRUGS ALCOHOL PARTYING SEXX 🥴 GEESH

[@bgcrp2005]

I didn’t even know Dorothy dandridge was lighter skinned

[@foxyboop4164]

Most of them were...otherwise, they wouldn't have been as palatable, popular in mainstream. ​@@bgcrp2005

[@4evermistyblu]

My stepmother was Lena Horne’s niece. She was married to my dad and he knew Lena very, very well. Now my dad was not in my life when I was a child, so I never got to meet Ms. Horne or her niece. Great video!!

[@mekasims1981]

Ya right🙄

[@KarmaProsperity8]

I wouldn’t claim anyone I haven’t met as my stepmother that’s just me though or even the dad that wasn’t around tbh

[@4evermistyblu]

@@KarmaProsperity8 He’s in my life now and we have an amazing relationship, but okay. I’m me and you are you. Be blessed.

[@gwendolynbien-aime1536]

Let’s not forget a very important part of why Lena Horne was hired at the Cotton Club (besides talent)…colorism and the paper sack test. You were more likely to be hired in high-profile places like the Cotton Club if your complexion matched or was lighter than a paper sack. Not judging, but colorism was a common, overt ideology and practice of that time. The Cotton Club was popular with whites at that time and was supposedly owned by the Mob, so lighter skinned blacks were more “appealing” to its white audience.

[@doristessier3683]

Lena Horne was colored but also French & native American. Many of us white black & other races are mixed. Nothing wrong with that. People fall in love with different races & different nationalities & that's what makes us so wonderful & interesting

[@titutoyou]

Who says it was forgotten?

[@gloriajohnson6095]

So true

[@gwendolynbien-aime1536]

@@titutoyou Because it would have been ideal to have had the colorism issue mentioned at that point in the story; though Ashley did mention it later. Many people are not aware of this unspoken rule and litmus test that was prevalent in the early days of entertainment. Unfortunately, (colorism) is still around…..seen any hip-hop videos recently????

[@titutoyou]

@@gwendolynbien-aime1536 your asking me if I’ve seen hip hop videos doesn’t answer my question. Let that ego go.

[@paulajohnson2124]

I almost died laughing when you did that scene with Lena in the mink stole and Joe and his wife Marva!!

[@rhondaflowers3824]

The 📯 playing in the background had me rolling!😆😂

[@sandraatkins2539]

Yes Lena was talented, but I never thought she was a great beauty. IMHO, she never held a candle to women like Dorothy Dandridge or Diane Carole. Incidentally, Joe Louis' wife looked better than Lena. Still, I give her credit for her talent and her fight against racism. I also praise her for risking her career to support Dr. .acting Luther King. RIP Lena.

[@michelleramsey4302]

Bruhhhh

[@constancegomez351]

Lol!😂

[@dominiquejones3805]

Lol Ashley a fool 4 that 🤣

[@AuthorLHollingsworth]

People sometimes forget that these super stars are people, too. Many if them endured trauma that really messed them up, mentally. Also, none of us really know how those people felt. Love each of the stories!

[@ms.etiquettedecorum7481]

yes and if you ever watch Lena Horne in an old interview she will tell you about her pain that she suffered and she had a rough start to her when she spoke and that mind set protested her to defend and protect yourself

[@MediaTerryAllen]

TEACH! See what I said it the thread!

[@nishamack586]

Ashley, while I was visiting someone in the hospital recently I began talking with the housekeeping staff. During our gossip session one of them asked me if I watched Ashley says so! I said girl she the truth ain't she! girl the people love you here in Michigan!💗💗💗

[@Danyelb12]

💜💜💜

[@ellyelly9654]

Television does no justice in revealing the background of these Celebrities what-so-ever! Ashleysaysso really opened up these celebrities lives to the public and connected the dots on lots of things. One thing is for sure that they are all everyday people and another reason to just be yourself 'cause of some these untold news are horrifying!

[@AshleySaysSo20]

Lol aww this made my day! Thank you so much and I love y'all back💞💞

[@mekasims1981]

@@AshleySaysSo20 great job 👍🏾

[@zheahra]

I loved her role in the Wiz. Yes. "Believe in yourself." I tear up every time.

[@edglebennett6312]

SHO NUFF!!! She did that thang!

[@shanijames29]

😍😍😍😍 me too

[@speakintothemicb]

Yes

[@genielove91]

Yaaaaaaaaas! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽❤️

[@pattycannon1804]

Glenda the good witch.

[@YayaSekmet]

Who else shouted out DOROTHY DANDRIDGE when she got to the mystery lady?!😂😂😂

[@BlaqB0mbshell]

We already knew!

[@tlfsag88]

I definitely did guess it correctly too

[@JadaFan4life]

It's actually pretty common knowledge that Lena and Dorothy were not really good friends. Lena did speak very respectfuly of Dorothy in later years and would often refer to her as "our" Marilyn Monroe.

[@tyiingram9878]

🙋🏿‍♂️🤣🤣

[@cwhite2324]

Yep me too😆

[@taijohnson9139]

Her skin color helped her a lot she had the exotic look of the time nothing has changed in Hollywood though

[@WeezyJeffersonYo]

Wow, genius observation 🙄

[@taijohnson9139]

Weezy Jefferson not more genus than your reply to my observation

[@ronaldpatrick4257]

Don't let these weirdos troll you

[@OhDatsJaVion]

It helped her a little bit until she was black balled from Hollywood& when her movies went down south her clips would be edited out to not offend white audience!! She was not allowed to live in Beverly hills !!! But in the black community yes , because black America especially back then was color struct asf that’s how she was able to work in the cotton club etc

[@laffytiffy4730]

@@WeezyJeffersonYo what was the point in being rude? It’s so disturbing to me when I think of the amount of weird people in this world who are now behind keyboards on the internet. 🙄

[@cattheusnavyvetyaya5453]

Lena Horne was a household name in EVERY household, not just Black households. And WOW Ms. Dorothy Dandridge, what a beautiful queen!

[@thewigdoctorsijaye6445]

Dianne Carroll was beautiful and graceful as well😍❤️

[@deloresremy2929]

BIG FACTS 💯💯💯

[@sammie7641]

Yes!!!Love her!

[@IJustCant-jj2rv]

Ashley! You gotta cover Diahann! Beautiful, talented, and HELLA MESSY!!!

[@LyricalXilence]

I never found her appealing. If I had to rank them I'd go Dorothy > Lena > Josephine

[@mekasims1981]

@@LyricalXilence 😂😂

[@hollee5912]

"Joe Louis was out here handing out them carbonated drinks" Lmao - Ashley, you are so funny!

[@blkpanther11]

Lmao 😂

[@nakiafarrell-akwetey7248]

Crazy! I love her!

[@msinnga3803]

I screamed 😂😂

[@vincyfifi]

That part took me out. Lmaoooo

[@shay_lynae2787]

I hollered 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@bobbierobinson6269]

I used to love the way Bill Cosby was in love with Lena on his show. The Cosby Show was great in putting older black actors/actresses in the spotlight. I love your channel but it sometimes makes me sad, because it shows that these people have flaws when they seemed so perfect before. I guess it shows that they are still amazing entertainers even with those flaws. Thank you Ashley.

[@michellewhitton967]

Too much truth

[@perfectly_imperfect7972]

Baaabbbyyy the things they were doing back in the day really don’t have ANYTHING on what’s going on nowadays!!!!! They were beyond scandalous and truly didn’t give a damn.

[@beenthereworethat1603]

I was thinking the exact same thing. I loved that episode

[@ThisIsJ.Nicole]

Ooh. Remember when she made a guest appearance on A Different World? That was the BEST!

[@missj.9971]

Fred Sanford had the biggest crush on her too!!! Lol!!

[@mercedes7811]

Now Dorothy Dandridge was a beautiful and talented woman.

[@tinyking11]

Yes! She was so beautiful. 😍😍

[@meyokkob458]

So true!

[@marlomills6800]

ABSOLUTELY!

[@TessieDobey]

YES SHE WAS! SIMPLY BEAUTIFUL!

[@kennethmorris8593]

True fact during the filming of " carmen Jones" dorothy dandridge had an affair with the director otto preminger when she became pregnant he forced her to have an abortion.

[@tawanabrown3650]

FUN FACT: Lena later went back to school and got her high school diploma. She attended Booker T. Washington HS in Atlanta. The same alma mater as Dr. King and my mother! Shout out to Atlanta Public Schools!

[@sevenlocs2spirits]

I also recall that at 86 years old, Lena wanted Janet out of a biopic project where Janet would portray her, after Janet's mishap at the super bowl.

[@2Tall2BAShorty]

I don’t even want to watch TV no more. TV watches me because I be totally enthralled in watching your channel on my phone, computer, etc!

[@barbaraf.valdes4206]

True ‼️✌️

[@2Tall2BAShorty]

@@barbaraf.valdes4206 I listen to them throughout the day. In the shower. Everything!

[@barbaraf.valdes4206]

@@2Tall2BAShorty Hi I didn't understand your reply. Who is it that you are listening to every day?

[@shakeyraware1563]

@@barbaraf.valdes4206 she watches her channel all the time

[@quet7019]

I also heard that Lena cursed like a sailor and one day cursed out Joe Lewis so bad he slapped her. She eventually forgave him, but their relationship was never the same according to the rumor. Great video per usual tho!!! ❤️

[@BookerTWashington96]

It wouldn’t be an AshleySaysSo video unless someone got “bust all upside the head” 😂

[@klmalone91]

Right! 😂😂

[@__PurpleTulips]

Lol!😂😂💯

[@blkpanther11]

You Ain't Lying 😂

[@ThePerryda]

💯🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@megaoldskool76]

🤣🤣🤣

[@kaleahcollins4567]

Rest in peace to the legend Hazel Scott she was a civil rights fighter and nobody gave her credit for the things that she had done fun fact in the movie who shot Rodger rabbit the scene with Donald Duck and Daffy Duck are battling on the pianos that was based on Hazel Scott

[@dahmeneekah]

😊 Yes

[@tarobinson7411]

so true. you actually see her perform with dual pianos in a documentary about Hazel Scott.

[@jaleesacarr4963]

Who framed Roger Rabbit

[@IJustCant-jj2rv]

I WISH I was Hazel Scott. She was the total package. And her piano skills were SICKENING...I worship her.🙏

[@kaleahcollins4567]

@@jaleesacarr4963 yes I was voice texting but actually the book was who shot Roger rabbit. Do ya homework and don't come for me if your not sent for my dear.

[@Imissyoulou]

I know how Freddie Washinton, felt. You can help somebody get up, and when they do get up, they forget about the bridge that brought them over. It hurts, but I've gotten over it.

[@IJustCant-jj2rv]

Another point of contention: Freddie allegedly had a long-term relationship with Duke Ellington. She even (allegedly) married one of Duke's band members to be near him.

[@beyourself2444]

Hazel Scott… a great Trinidadian… love her🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹

[@preedy_toni1255]

🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹

[@KantasiBaron]

Mighty fine😍

[@ellyelly9654]

🇹🇹

[@jamelodythomas3771]

And she can play two pianos at the same time

[@cynthiaedwards954]

True Caribbean beauty.

[@V3daStarr]

Sidebar: the ponytail 😍 she knew the assignment

[@AshleySaysSo20]

😂😂 thank you so much💚💚

[@shanijames29]

And what pony tail is THIS?!

[@ask4theupgrade359]

You are leaving out that the part of Julie that went to Ava Gardener in “Show Boat” (1951) was that of a light skinned woman of black heritage, so Lena Horne thought she was perfect and was going to get the part.. Same thing happened to Lena Horne, when she thought she was going to get the part of “Pinky” that was given to Jeanne Crain (who received a Best Actress Oscar nomination). “Pinky” (1949) is the story of a light skinned black woman, who returns to her grandmother's house in the South after graduating from a Northern nursing school. Pinky tells her grandmother, played by Ethel Waters [who received an Oscar nomination in Supporting] that she has been "passing" for white while at school in the North and has fallen in love with a young white doctor, who knows nothing about her black heritage. Both times, Lena Horne was passed over and a white actress got the big part in an Oscar nominated movie for playing a light skinned woman of Black heritage, this is part of the reason why Lena left Hollywood.

[@edbrown9016]

Ashley, you had me at Coke Bottle not 2021 Coke Bottle! 😂😂😂 No. Joe Louis was famous, powerful and rich! Those are the stuff most women want! Look at some of these politicians, they do get women, right?!

[@blkpanther11]

Wow Thank You For That Info Especially On Pinky I Feel That Role Was Meant For Lena

[@Thesekidstookmychannel]

I LOVE the movie Pinky!! I was today years old when I found out the woman was really white. Thanks for that tidbit. Have you seen Imitation of Life? Was the actress that played the daughter white or was she really black?

[@renaissancewoman100]

@@Thesekidstookmychannel In the first one which was black and white one, Freddie Washington played the character. The second one that everyone know, the actress was white. Sidenote: Hollywood wanted her to pass because they felt she was a great actress. Freddie refused and still worked with the Civil Rights movement.

[@barbaraf.valdes4206]

Racism was hot and heavy in Hollywood at that time ❗

[@TheOGActressdiaries]

LOL, my grandmother and Lena Horne were born the same year and looked similar (very light skinned). I remember her saying that Lena was cute and a "singer" but she wasnt a "SANGER". She was ok as far as talent but her skin color & her "ability to talk quick" got her in many doors. After your video, I think my grandmother might have been on to something.

[@sheenaperez1882]

I believe that too....

[@NickiParkerr]

@@sheenaperez1882 yes no offense but I don’t get blown away by her singing 😐

[@fionnagrey2425]

Lena was a slow sophisticated talker.

[@shakeriacrawford5457]

I want some of what granny had 😂

[@terriludovicy834]

I love you Ashley! I raised five children and, now, they are all grown and far away. You, my friend, are the best company for a lonely Mom. May The Good Lord continue to keep and Bless you and yours.....

[@barbaraf.valdes4206]

I'm from Bed-Stuy Brooklyn and about 1947, there was a Lena Horne parade for her, which I had gotten permission to join. When she was in the musical on Broadway, I went backstage and chatted with her. She was very tiny and gracious. As a young girl in Bed-Stuy, I was offered a chance to sing, but declined. I went on to Fashion Institute of Technology, started my modeling career. However, I ran into a jealous man like she did, had two children and it ended badly. But I have that Brooklyn spirit and did well with my life. Thank you for the video, it was very enlightening❗👏

[@MissTeaq]

Ok Bed-Stuy (Do or die)! I too was born in Brooklyn…Crown Heights.

[@bonnietaylor-williams5112]

I believe the man they were fighting over was Adam Clayton Powell too. Great video Ashley‼️

[@CodyCole80]

He was my first thought. 😂

[@znayJ]

They once asked Ms. Lena why her skin, was flawless, she says, in her most Southern Belle voice, I moisturize, moisturize

[@awwyeahme2]

And a good plastic surgeon 😂

[@caramelsmoothcat5477]

Not flawless just pale

[@dreswifey25]

@@awwyeahme2 But was they doing plastic surgery back then?

[@constancegomez351]

They got nose jobs way back in Egyptian times

[@adbc1f72]

@@constancegomez351 Really Egyptian times?!

[@jer6151]

You never fail to make me smile. I really enjoyed this video. I always admired Lena Horn. What a tragic story. I still don’t understand why you haven’t been tapped for television. Your programme is ions ahead of the Hollywood gossip shows. What can we, your fans do to get you the recognition you deserve?

[@AshleySaysSo20]

Hey Jim! Lol thank you so much just keep watching and let me entertain you that's all I ask🥰🥰

[@zagonbarondelacroix444]

Ready for television?! 1. She pronounces "orm" for arm; 2. "Have went. Again, HAVE WENT. 3. "StyVESant. This entertaining woman is just good for her, for now.

[@zagonbarondelacroix444]

P.S. Metro Goldwyn "MYer". Lord have mercy.

[@AshleySaysSo20]

Jim I hope you are doing well!

[@portialandry6726]

Girl Joe Louis was very handsome. He was probably a charmer. I need you to do two vids a week lol. Please don’t change how you tell your stories. I love that you’re logical ans speak your true thoughts. If ppl don’t like it they can move around. Love watching your vids! 💜💛

[@ladybird2356]

Girl I just love how you tell these stories!! 😂 you be having me literally laughing out loud I swear!!! 💕💕

[@tyiingram9878]

😭😂😭 me too

[@kaym1558]

That little Joe Louis segment had me stunned. My family is related to him and I’ve heard stories but never about him and women lol I didn’t know he was like that , now I gotta go ask more questions 😂

[@monicascott5265]

Ask away my darling. But I have found that leaving old stuff in the past is the best way to go

[@deliciaford4343]

Duke Ellington was handsome and talented. He seemed to know how to FLIRT big TIME!!!!

[@I_act_up]

This was a great learning experience. Thank you! Times haven’t changed much at all, even after all these decades…

[@meelegantdiva2]

Redd Foxx used to crack me up calling her "The Horne". The men were captivated by her even today. Yes, she was not the only beauty of that time, but nevertheless a beauty she was.

[@speerrituall1]

I was just thinking of him, singing Stormy Monday and talking about “The Horne.”

[@mzundastood2422]

Bill Cosby too

[@biancaward5080]

my favorite episode is when Lena came to visit lil lame Lamont. lol

[@ampositivewoman2103]

👏👏 I'm running out of accolades for you! You are particularly gorgeous tonight in addition to providing us with another wonderful video.

[@AshleySaysSo20]

Thank you boo much luv🧡🧡

[@deelnickole65]

Yeeessss ASHLEY you come thru right on time EVERYTIME

[@orderedme_ohgee8607]

Hazel Scott’s unambiguous Black beauty was literally so alluring, and captivating.

[@caramelsmoothcat5477]

Hazel Scott was not ambiguous

[@orderedme_ohgee8607]

@@caramelsmoothcat5477 I don’t think she was either. She’s irrefutably Black. That’s why I used the word ‘unambiguous’.

[@juehlwillis4699]

Absolutely!!!!

[@crystallott5735]

Yes I cringed at the part where she described hazel as just a regular black girl. Smh

[@daw7773]

@@caramelsmoothcat5477 He said "unambiguous" not ambiguous.

[@datchickcookie]

“They busted him all upside his head Chile” I swear no one can tell a story like you Ash 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Keeda79]

I bussed out laughing 😂, I was waiting for it😂

[@travisjohnson3548]

Shit made me cry laugh.

[@fionnagrey2425]

These people are dead though.

[@skyllahmitchell4636]

I respect Lena for getting her hustle on she didn’t let anything stop her from getting her bag

[@MD-DLive]

Even with survival, " getting your bag", there has to be boundaries! That's one of our problems as a people, especially these days! - Not enough boundaries!

[@WeezyJeffersonYo]

I don't think it was really about getting "a bag".

[@patriciapowell9399]

You mean whoring????

[@aceblanks7658]

Looooord I just loooooove Dorothy Dandridge so much!!!! She’s always been my favorite old Hollywood actress ever!!!! She is sooooo gorgeous in this picture!!!!! 😍😍😍😍😍

[@meyokkob458]

I agree she was the prettiest

[@whothatjaywilliams838]

When you turned your back and the look on your face.. I laughed so loud😂😂❤❤

[@natashiaformley474]

Same 😫🤣🤣🤣🤣🙌

[@carlahalane3871]

Ashley, I noticed a slam about Lena in the movie Carmen Jones. Pearl Bailey was singing Beat Out the rhythm on the Drum and said…Ain’t gonna worry about Stormy Weather! Then the camera panned in on Dorothy Dandridge. Might have been a little jab there. Keep it coming Ashley…your content is fantastic!!!

[@1234pouvez]

Pearl Bailey did not write the lyrics to the song. She just sang the material that was given to her. The camera did not pan in on Miss Dandridge As she was singing the song. You could see Miss Dandridge along with. other people sitting at the bar. from a distance. Had Miss Horne wanted the role she could have arranged a meeting with PRIMInger, through her agent, and gone through the audition/screen test process the same way Miss Dandridge did. However, when the movie was made, Miss HORNE was too old for the role. In a Lena Horne Interview from 'The McCreary Report,' 1988 MIss Horne states that she, herself wasn't that interested in acting. She said Miss Dandridge was beautiful, brilliant, and a great actress. The interview can be seen on KZbin. This contradicts all the B.S. said in this video.

[@staceyswitzer2100]

1930's coke bottle! "Joe Louis was out here handing out them carbonated drinks" Dang! LMAO

[@learhaynes1002]

I almost died laughing😂😂😂

[@laquannawilliams3027]

They need to do a movie about Lena Horne, and have Alicia Keys play the role as Lena.

[@starquality5774]

Alicia Keys really does look like her

[@cwhite2324]

Absolutely, I started thinking the same thing a few years ago.

[@princessgrace66]

Agree..Excellent Choice

[@meld.4784]

@@starquality5774 I believe y’all, but I just don’t see it

[@carbar3936]

Janet Jackson did a Lena movie for TV, but network decided not to air it due to nipplegate happened a few months before planned airing. Like Janet but not the greatest actress & definitely doesn't resemble her. Alicia Keys does look more like Lena.

[@TheNines999]

Not carbonated drinks 😂😂😂 I definitely cackled lmao

[@coilylani]

It’s the reenactment for me LMFAOOOO I love youuu❤️😂 I’m also kinda new too 🥺🥺

[@ibensavage993]

Did You Watch Her Debarge Videos Yet? 👀 If Not Girlllll Watch Em Soon As U Finish This One Lol

[@ibensavage993]

@KingTrillGStLooYanih Scandal With A Capital S ❗️🤣

[@coilylani]

@@ibensavage993 I’ve been binge watching I’ve seen almost all of her videos ! 😂😂

[@breannavienn-brock1501]

Ashley this tea was before yo time but there was a very well known man named Alfred Hitchcock who did the commentary and acted in old murder mysteries. There's a part he left that has never been filled in a New Category Called All Entertainment. Ashley I think that Part has you written all over it...🎉🎥🌉🎈🌅🎊🎥 🎶 🎶 🎈 ❤

[@Danyelb12]

Welcome to Ashley SaysSo 😁

[@MikeEZ]

8:23 is when the lyric popped in my head "Hello.. Hey Joe.. You wanna give it a go? GICHI G-"

[@impactfully5714]

Lawd Ashley! You have my husband and I hollering over here. Love the way you tell the stories. You are very entertaining. 😂😂

[@waterlove2042]

That was the time Harry Belafonte did the movie with Dorothy Dandridge she was hating on Dorothy. She probably thought Harry Belafonte could have gotten her the role instead

[@1234pouvez]

The only person who could have gotten her the role would have been Otto Preminger the producer and director of the film. Had Miss Horne been interested she could have done the same thing MISS Dandridge did. She could have set up a meeting through her agent with Preminger and gone through the audition screen test process. However, when this movie was filmed Miss Horne was too old for the role of Carmen.

[@janekalove8888]

Thank u Ashley!!! I glad u came through with my request of Lena Horne

[@missbee1451]

I knew someone who was friends with Lena when she was coming up in showbiz and she confirmed Lena definitely *air quotes * " used what she had to get what she wanted ". 👀

[@willmartinez5496]

Lol most of them did.

[@breannavienn-brock1501]

That went across color lines (allege every body had to get down or cast yourself on the dam* couch) Hopefully the Me Too Movement will clear all that foolishness out..

[@tyiingram9878]

Welp 🤷🏿‍♂️. She said y’all can call me whatever, but imma use my skills 😂😂😂

[@m.waymire]

Im sure thats true about a lot of ppl nothings changed the game remains the same.

[@1234pouvez]

MISS Horne was born 117 years ago. Wow! You actually knew someone who knew her when she was coming up in showbiz. That would have been about 100 years ago if she started out as a teenager.

[@carlafrancis-taylor]

I will say it again. I love the way you deliver your content. Although their lives are controversial, you do present both sides, giving your subjects grace for being human beings. And that’s why I continue to enjoy watching your content. You are a great story teller. Thank you for your time and effort put into these videos. You’re doing a wonderful job of telling us their stories, both the good and the bad. Much love!

[@AshleySaysSo20]

Thank you so much! I really appreciate this💞💞

[@sammie7641]

I agree! First time watching your video and enjoyed it all...it's tea with history.😂 So unique. Your so talented!

[@sammie7641]

@@AshleySaysSo20 rather tea history..I think 🤔...lol.. Your're Welcome!

[@vanessaknight7129]

I love the idea that you included your family in the decisions process. Your daughter is beautiful, love her pictures and her reasoning for picking them. Your husband has definitely been paying attention to your style. He gave you a challenge that I have no doubt you can accomplish them.

[@nyiaharris1072]

Thanks for this one @ashleysaysso. My mom was marked after Lena Horne. For those who don’t know what that means it’s ole school. My grandmother was pregnant with my mom and she loved Lena so much and thought she was so beautiful (which she was), she wanted my mom to look like Lena. And guess what Chile!!!! My mom looks just like Lena, the smile and all. Plus Lena has been to our house in DC at least once and my grandmother cooked a meal for her.

[@violetcarson5532]

You're right many people don't know what marked means, but, I do. My mother taught me what that means. I was born and raised in the south. There is such a thing as marking your children.

[@LyddieR]

It's the Lena reenactment for me with the fur stole lol! You look absolutely beautiful btw! 😊

[@stevewoodson4635]

Cardi. B. New Jersey basketball Code. Party.

[@megaoldskool76]

Great Job Ashley! Fred Sanford loved him some “The Horn” 🤣🤣

[@zoewhite2958]

You are soo good at what you do ❤ loved that Lena and Joe fur skit

[@janetzielinski8880]

These videos are certainly getting my mine off of Hurricane Ida. An evacuee, but I'm safe thank God. Overheated for days. Thanks for the tea on Lena Horne!!!

[@Danyelb12]

Glad your safe.

[@jerricab]

So distracted by this hair, Ashley. ITS GIVING! 😍

[@sidneyvadale]

1. Nothing surprises me about people. People will be people 2. Joe was cute 3. Ashley, I love the ponytail 😍

[@monilaninetynine3811]

@DOA V 2.0 It does seem like all the dancers at the Cotton Club were all that same color, though.

[@renaissancewoman100]

The brown paper test may not have been used with an actual paper bag, but many places judged you on color. The Cotton Club was infamous for hiring light skin chorus girls only. Many black societies did this as well. It's ugly but our people did and still unconsciously use the "brown paper bag test".

[@umisessentials8516]

She looks really pretty like that 🥰

[@deliciaford4343]

@@renaissancewoman100 Tell it like it is SISTER!😳😳😳😭😁😉 You know it's like that in your family. Remember when your elders used to say bring your black behind here especially when it was Whooping times.

[@mercedes7811]

@DOA V 2.0 Yes it was. Basically the cotton club ladies were light with straight or processed hair.

[@cadillacdeville5828]

She shares my birthday 🎁🎂, a true Cancer ♋🦀. I always liked the way she carries herself, such grace and confidence. Even in her later years, just beautiful ❤️.

[@sherrita80548]

I am a Cancer 2 I wish I had her not give a f**** attitude

[@cadillacdeville5828]

@@sherrita80548 You be sensitive as I am as well. It can be a drawback as well as possible depending.on the situation.

[@natalee217]

Yes but a bit scandalous as well, apparently

[@georgelivingston3395]

WHEN I TELL YOU I AM ADDICTED TO ALL PF THESE VIDEOS!!! 😩😩 KEEP THEM COMING!!! Chile this is better than TV lol

[@nattyrocberry]

These stories are sooo important to hear. Thank you for telling them!!

[@kimjohnson8471]

The quality of your videos is getting better & better. I love that Alabama accent when you say "huuuuuuuunnnnneeeeyyyy"! 😃 😀 😄

[@dominiquehughes3503]

“that big, thick glass” had me cracking’ up!!

[@ThisIsJ.Nicole]

Oh my gosh, Ashley favors Joe Louis' wife. That's eerie. That reenactment with that fur stole took me ALL the way out.🤣

[@ManAndAHalf]

Great job, Ashley! I was convinced you would sing Stormy Weather for us, in honor of Miss Horne :-). One of the last pictures you had up of Lena Horne, was of course from her appearance on Sanford and Son (my all-time favorite show). I read a biography on Redd Foxx and it said Lena Horne couldn't stand Redd Foxx. She thought he was crude and vulgar and stayed away from him, when they didn't have scenes together.

[@THEDISH54]

You missed out on why Ethel Waters disliked Ms. Horne...because of the song STORMY WEATHER. The song was originally ETHEL WATERS song and the powers that be TOOK THE SONG & gave it to Ms. Horne to be her SIGNATURE song and forevermore Ethel Waters hated her....which is sad. MS Horne was a wonderful boss & I performed with her on LENA HORNE: THE LADY & HER MUSIC BROADWAY SHOW. She had magnificent stories about her life and I enjoyed listening to them. She paid us extremely well and she made sure our birthdays were not forgotten and our holidays were great. I even had the pleasure of meeting Muhammad Ali thru my working with her and that was a TRUE thrill. Stay Safe. Btw-Ms.Horne had 2 children to feed and that will ALWAYS COME 1ST. ChinaDoll of the Platters

[@ashleycunningham8484]

My got-dang-me lungs ceased to take in air at that reenactment!!! 😩🤣🤣😭😭😭 I had to subscribe! 🚬😤💨

[@Danyelb12]

Welcome to Ashley SaysSo 😁

[@msnatural1000]

I'd like to see you do Ms Chaka Khan. I bet she has a lot of tea.

[@AnovaLisaDragonfly]

Yes! Chaka Khan is an absolute icon and, no doubt, there's a lot of tea there. I'd LOVE for Ashley to do a video on her.

[@marquita4174]

Yessss I’ve been asking about Chaka Khan for months

[@ellove370]

@msnatural Chaka sure does she has a son who killed someone and she thought by leaving this country she was saving him but NO he was what he was and I suspect she knew.

[@monilaninetynine3811]

Did you read her book? Very interesting lady. I'd love for Ashley to cover her.

[@monilaninetynine3811]

@@ellove370 There's also Chaka's longstanding drug issues.

[@sidneyvadale]

I read somewhere that Lena didn’t mind fighting lol

[@seanm.1813]

The way she like to Mark her territory in front of the missus she better be good with them hands. You cannot be a pretty face and just pull the moose she did.

[@sidneyvadale]

@@seanm.1813 that’s true lol

[@patriciapowell9399]

She aint have no choice, When u sleeping w everybody man

[@novanova5378]

Omg!!!Dorothy Dandridge 😍😍😍😍I wrote about her 6th grade for black history month.

[@tamarashavon575]

Love this look today! Hair nails n make up on point ❤️🔥☀️

[@theorderofthebees7308]

I love how you tell these stories they are so vivid and fun . I listened to a interview Lena Horne gave and sadly , her first husband physical abused her.

[@chryssmyth1113]

Lena's version of I Have Dreamed from the 1976 album Lena...A New Album is a Masterpiece. She had to know how brilliant that was.

[@sophienunley4766]

Ashley you are a true story teller, I can listen to you for days, what I love about you, you have me sitting on the edge of my chair, great job ❤ love your hair. I appreciate you doing the work. 😍👍👍👍

[@AshleySaysSo20]

Thank you Sophie💛💛

[@stellajones1261]

I could listen to Ashley all day she's a real story teller you rock Ashley ❤❤❤

[@natedavis5693]

When I see your thumbnail and I know you've dropped a new video it's almost like Christmas anticipation opening that first gift you lady are a star

[@CandidlyToni]

You killed me the way you said Bedford Stuyvesant. Lol

[@pjmoneybags2780]

Frank Sinatra had some nerve telling Lena anything about how she treated her husband. He should have thought about that with his own wife and how he treated her.

[@jessebacon817]

Oh please Ava Gardner slept around too while they were married. She was tough!

[@pjmoneybags2780]

@jessebacon817 She wasn't his only wife & she may have cheated but that doesn't say she wasn't treated bad, it's could be seen as an excuse or some may say a reason.

[@pauweewee247]

Lena Horne was no "Carmen Jones". Ms. Dorothy Dandridge was and will always be "Heatwave".

[@MonaJ888]

Dorothy was beautiful

[@anniewilson6737]

Agreed 🤗

[@nataliewalton5118]

Facts. Lena was beautiful but not only was Dorothy beautiful, she was alluring.

[@lingling7366]

Without even trying 🎓

[@timmy841212]

Dorothy definitely was gorgeous. Lena was beautiful but she was no match for Ms. Dandridge, honey!

[@tnkrbelle]

Its my first time commenting but excellent job Ashley! I thoroughly enjoy your videos and the tea boo! Cuz Chile, look! This yea done been something else thus far! Sending love from Louisiana boo!!!

[@Danyelb12]

Hope you guys remain safe

[@AshleySaysSo20]

@@Danyelb12 thank you so much! And I'm praying for you guys out there this hurricane stuff is wild!

[@brittanyjames8708]

Great video Ashley!and I'm LIVING for this curly ponytail!!😩😍

[@justkovi0630]

Yaasss ponytail! I've always loved Lena Horne, but lawd Ash not my bday twin with all this mess. I'm shooketh. 😂🤣

[@chick-fil-agal2264]

i remember lena on cosby show, when cliff huxtexable was his bday surprise, and my granny who was 62 at the time in the background said, 'humph Claire better watch lena cuz she;s a jezebel have poor bill in her bed', lol kmow i see why she said that.

[@timmy841212]

Lol especially what we know about Bill now...

[@mekasims1981]

Pill 💊 bill🤪🤪🤪

[@valerieproctor7366]

I always though Lena Horne looks were overrated because she looked close to white , I thought Dorothy Dandrich and Hazel Scott were wayyy more beautiful!

[@sarahgivens7182]

They all beautiful. All Beautiful women

[@lmcperson]

Are you serious! Do you understand that there was more to Lena than her physical beauty? She was a pioneer and role model in Entertainment and politics. She was very active in The Civil Rights Movement. Hazel was also a strong activists for Blacks and women rights. Why do so many women trivialize other women's accomplishments?

[@1234pouvez]

@@lmcperson And in May of 1963 MISS Dandridge gave a speech at a Freedom Rally in LA. She was introduced by Dr. KING. Hazel Scott was a renowned pianist. LENA HORN was a singer. There was no competition between the two. Had Miss Horne wanted the role of Carmen she could have arranged a meeting with PRIMInger, through her agent, and gone through the audition/screen test process the same way Miss Dandridge did. However, when the movie was made, Miss HORNE was too old for the role. In a Lena Horne Interview from 'The McCreary Report,' 1988 MIss Horne states that she, herself wasn't that interested in acting. She said Miss Dandridge was beautiful, brilliant, and a great actress. The interview can be seen on KZbin. This contradicts all the B.S. said in this video.

[@timmy841212]

Gurl, Ms. Lena was a trip, honey!!! Great video, Ashley. 😁

[@Kandiemc]

Love the video that hair is everything!!!!💜💜

[@auntieeva4098]

Great review! My mom took me to see her show on Broadway, The Lady and her Music. It was amazing. She was in her mid 60's and still had the voice. She was also still beautiful.

[@nikkiojo3631]

Sis u r telling this story like u r back in 1940 sitting around a kitchen table sharing the latest gossip as if it were 1st hand knowledge! Hilarious & quite engaging! Good job!

[@dekmusique]

Lol you ain't lying 🤫

[@zackyoder7359]

Youre delivery andthe best line ever made my day." Joe Louis was handing out them carbonated drinks to them ladies" perfect hahahha

[@donnastanley8536]

Ashley that story was a dozie!! Girl the people back in them days and stars. Great Great story Ashley once again. Ok can't be late for work or it will be (stormy weather😁. God Bless

[@Thejanaylee]

It’s the hairrrr for me Ashley 😍💖💖 thanks for another great video 🤗

[@a21white]

She said, "Carbonated drinks!" 😂👀

[@suzettegriffith8728]

😂😂😂😂Ashley when you did that that impersonation of Lena walking over to Joe Lewis and his wife. It was over for me. I’m trying to do my lashes almost poked my eye out.

[@TheMcRaeKingz]

Loved this !!!!!! Ashley you are so GREAT!!!!! at telling these stories you keep the audience engaged til the end I’d love to have you as a guest on my Up Close and Personal show KEEP ON DOING WHAT YOU DO QUEEN !!!!!