Is PPOP A Copy Of KPOP? | Traces Of PPOP In Filipino Music | Differences Between KPOP and PPOP

[@hl2582]

Kpop = music for the eyes Ppop = music for the ears

[@riaconradt2554]

“It is undeniable we copied a lot from Kpop…” Indeed, the METHODOLOGY of DEVELOPING and MARKETING these pop groups was “copied” or rather implemented from Kpop to the current crop of Ppop groups starting from SB19. However, as you have pointed out, the music and lyricism remain our own, as well as the emotions and heart of the songs. As for the groups themselves, there were always influences from foreign pop groups. I can mention several like Menudo, NSYNC, Backstreet Boys, Boys 2 Men, Spice Girls, etc. These groups came way before all these Kpop bands were popularized in the Philippines during the Korean wave and are also influencing our current crop of Ppop groups, in my opinion.

[@vibration9381]

I’ve been drawn to SB19’s songs because of their lyricism, wordplay, message and melody. Knowing that these are inherently characteristics of Filipino music is heartwarming.

[@AsianEntertainmentandCulture]

their songs are poetry

[@BRYANLEECABATAY]

Basta ang alam ko, kagaya ng sabi ni Pablo ..No one owns a certain genre, music is universal

[@keunatv2516]

Hoy po true ka jan kaps😌

[@BRYANLEECABATAY]

@@keunatv2516 haha di mo ko kaps oi ACEs po ako pero yeah you can call us like that din naman hehe❤️❤️

[@honusblanco1259]

I don’t think P-pop’s melody is simple. Catchy actually. The main difference between K-pop and P-pop in my humble opinion is the innovative essence. The onus lies on the people who lead and manage each country’s music industry. Filipinos can argue their boy bands have been in existence for much longer, but that’s just basically it. They just existed. They didn’t have a life that was recognized by the US, the music industry capital of the world. Koreans are undeniably more innovative in all aspects of the industry especially in the business and artistic sides. Their genius generated a strategy to penetrate the US market and they did with a template now being copied by a lot of nations because they succeeded. ABS, Viva, GMA, etc. lacked the business savvy and the foresight to go global. Too bad, we had talents. We just didn’t have the fortitude to aspire bigger. Koreans did that too in the movie, auto, computer, home appliance industries. Let’s face it. We may potentially surpass K-pop’s popularity in the future, but let’s not deny the fact that they paved the way for us with their template, which Filipinos failed to formulate when they had the chance to. Filipinos can’t have that distinction, which the Korean’s snagged. Too late the hero! Heck, our most promising boyband right now was formed and is still managed by them. Now, Filipino showbiz companies are shelling out millions of pesos promoting their own newly formed bands sans the blood, sweat and tears endured by SB19 members riding on their coattails - some disappointingly even badmouthing K-pop. Sad! Let’s be honest, it was a Korean who cherry-picked each member of SB19. He saw the talent -the most basic requirement. He polished them, but he recognized early on each member’s skill sets when combined had the potential to explode globally. Remember how Filipinos especially content creators, the press and a TV host bashed, disparaged and embarrassed them?! Who’s laughing their way to the bank now?!

[@NGl9aiSBoe676]

Well said. I couldn't agree more. You've just expressed what I've been thinking about this topic.

[@mamacoffee902]

we have the same sentiments regarding this issue

[@yuankim7300]

Ano ba ang p-pop? Diba OPM? You don't call Filipino Rock band "Prock" band😂 Or Filipino ballad singer "Pallad" They are just k-pop group of filipinos. You have no right to remove or replace k in k-pop. 😂😂 k-pop is a genre itself with their unique characteristics created by thousands of musicians for over 40 years of period. Ano nga ba sa p-pop ang filipino except 'people'? Meron naman kayong P-pop called 'OPM', why bother renaming K-pop and disgrace us?

[@honusblanco1259]

@@yuankim7300 True. OPM should be promoted to help veer away from K-pop. However, OPM is all-genre encompassing. Maybe OPM-pop as a sub genre of OPM.

[@beyondbaymaxx]

This is a good explanation. It just makes me more proud of what PPop groups have accomplished.👌 However, I would say that the music is only being copied if it's exactly the same (plagiarism). That's why personally, I wouldn't say that PPop is a copy of KPop. They're currently producing mostly Dance Music for sure, but it is an inspiration rather than a copy. Since KPop has been really famous internationally for more than 10 years now, it's not a surprise that other countries will try to get with the trend. Currently, Ppop is rising, but in other Asian countries, they're still trying to figure it out while also getting the same inspiration from KPop (Japan not included of course since JPop is really what inspired KPop to be what it is now). Pablo mentioned in one of SB19's early interviews when he was asked if he thinks that they're copying KPop and he said that: the music they're creating is PPop, but since they are a Korean company, and KPop has been highly influencial internationally, KPop is definitely an inspiration for them. I just paraphrased what he said, but after hearing his answer, it makes sense why the current Ppop Dance Music has similarities with KPop. So far with the foreigners I've watched reacting to PPop groups, they don't think it's a copy of KPop, and that's a good thing. It means that even though they can see the similarities, PPop is still different, but can be just as great. 🙌🙌🙌

[@yuankim7300]

Ano ba ang p-pop? Diba OPM? You don't call Filipino Rock band "Prock" band😂 Or Filipino Ballad singer A "Pallad" Singer They are just k-pop group of filipinos. You have no right to remove or replace k in k-pop. 😂😂 k-pop is a genre itself with their unique characteristics created by thousands of musicians for over 40 years of period. Ano nga ba sa p-pop ang filipino except 'people'? Meron naman kayong P-pop called 'OPM', why bother renaming K-pop and disgrace us?

[@virgilialim4130]

According to WIKI Pop was originated from the US and UK. So no one can say that PPOP is a copy from KPOP. Other countries like the Philippines, South Korea, Japan, etc are inspired by these two countries and just adding the culture of where such country came from.

[@XianjoeCasimiro-bf5yk]

Well it might BUT k-pop has their own INDUSTRY INDUSTRY

[@yuankim7300]

Ano ba ang p-pop? Diba OPM? You don't call Filipino Rock band "Prock" band😂 Or Filipino Ballad singer A "Pallad" Singer They are just k-pop group of filipinos. You have no right to remove or replace k in k-pop. 😂😂 k-pop is a genre itself with their unique characteristics created by thousands of musicians for over 40 years of period. Ano nga ba sa p-pop ang filipino except 'people'? Meron naman kayong P-pop called 'OPM', why bother renaming K-pop and disgrace us?

[@teddy2979]

Finally, someone actual admits without ego how so much K-Pop influenced P-Pop just as much as HipHop influenced KPop. I agree with your analysis, but slightly differ on the originality of Filipino music because the groups you mentioned were heavily influenced by American/British music sang in Tagalog with milder beats (Village People, Bee Gees, to name a few). George Canseco would have been more unique than Apo in my opinion, and I do like Apo. SB19 is really in a perfect position to create their own tune, but that requires going back to ethnic traditional instruments, like creating beats from Sinulog, Singkil, or any tribal stuff and mix it with modern music. Just like Raggae, Salsa, Bachata, African music which as very distinct sounds to American Music, Filipinos need to find that niche, and OPM, is not unique enough to fill in that void, but it can be truly be considered Original Phil Music if these were incorporated. Filipinos has always been good at upgrading a song, usually better than the original, but originality still has a long way to go and requires internal backup than just mere upgrades...this is what will truly set SB19 apart...kind of like how Catriona Gray' used Phil. concepts to create stunning costumes for her...OPM music, whether PPop, needs to find that niche. However, having said all of these, SB19 is a start, and some of their earlier songs were more homegrown; just needs to be translated to English for international exposure and better production backing budget. English singing, along with simple beats that are singable, etc, will SB19's main niche against the average KPop band that struggles with English.

[@AsianEntertainmentandCulture]

George Canseco!!!!!! i have full confidence we will evolve and find our own sound that will carry traditional Filipino sound and also fit modern taste

[@Rem-lo6sg]

90's there was a Group already maybe the Ppop temporarily out in the scene for some years But still there was a Ppop already before kpop exist and now im happy that because of kpop The Ppop not is BACK and RISE!

[@shysydney]

opm has retained its soul throughout the ages, as with ppop. much different from the "manufactured" and "mechanical" sound of today's music.

[@virgilialim4130]

I am not a music expert and I listen and watch music reactors who are talking with sense and with knowledge. I watched the new MV of SB19 WYAT and I can say its different. WYAT have short and repetitive lyrics but, no simile or irony but still the depthness of being FILIPINO is still there.

[@warren4838]

copy? no, heavily influenced? yes, pero tingin ko nag influence talaga sa music natin ay ang mga taga west, in any genre,

[@ma.christinejuridico6818]

Great explanation about ppop compared to kpop..I hope Filipinos can understand that we have our own capabilities of introducing our own music and culture..our advantage is that we can speak and write English songs to go global.

[@AsianEntertainmentandCulture]

Yes!

[@jcescolastico5299]

very well said maam. You totally said it all and I also agree to all you have said!

[@fggarcia6010]

I remember the cringy jumbo hotdog at bulaklak😅.. But its iconic

[@Joshen_Marient]

I love discussions and topics on music such as these one. This is truly important. It is completely fine that P-pop draws a lot of inspiration from K-pop, because that's human nature on making art---first we copy, then eventually we will find our own brand/style. Nothing really is purely original (even K-pop is heavily inspired by J-pop, elements from progressive rock on using style changes within the songs, and beats from western synth-pop/trap bass music; or just like every single rock band from 70s until these days were heavily rooting from the impact of The Beatles from the 60s). We take all of our influences and use them to create something new. Current P-pop groups may use the K-pop format as "launching pad" and hopefully, Filipino music artists will create our own branding or even our own Filipino pop culture/wave just like Korea did with the Hallyu. I am truly excited on the future of OPM or Filipino entertainment/pop culture in general. The rise of P-pop is just the beginning of the world domination of Filipino Arts .

[@AsianEntertainmentandCulture]

exactly! i am so excited to see how Philippine pop music will evolve.

[@norevas4759]

Thank you very much po for your content😊 This is informative and learning about the similarities and differences between KPOP and PPop. Everybody will surely agree with you!👍💖

[@jackjohn8246]

Kpop,Ppop,Mpop,Ipop,Jpop, who cares, they are all Pop genre. Just enjoy the music.😂😍

[@AsianEntertainmentandCulture]

true that! 👍🏼 👍🏼 👍🏼 👍🏼 👍🏼

[@virgilialim4130]

Even the reactors can see the difference. There are just some reactors who are fans of KPOP just saying oh they are like KPOP, they copy KPOP without understanding POP song. They just blurted it out without thinking.

[@HeiDz1598]

Kung di dahil sa South East Asian na mga supporter ng korean wave hindi sila makikilala sa America dahil sa Mas madaming marunong mag ingles sa South East Asia natulungan natin sila na ilaganap yun . As a fan of Asian drama ang una talagang sumikat sa akin ung Taiwanese drama na f4 tapos ginawan ng version ng Korea na medyo quality nagustuhan ng tao

[@jesserygenematuranguiralphilip]

Very well said and explained our music is evolve with a lot of influences but Filipino artistry is the heart and soul of lyrics of the music that it tackles our own culture and life experiences. And in terms of vocal power iba ang puso at galing ng pinoy, Kaya SB19 pave the way for Ppop gives chances to other young aspiring artists to form a group also and share their talents.

[@DrSweetkikay]

As Pablo of SB19 said… Music is Universal…nobody can own a genre…let alone music. So, I absolutely disagree that PPop is a copy of KPop. That is an insult for artist who strive hard in their craft. However, there is always an influence. As Kpop is influence by Western and Japanese pop. Music always evolves. Does that mean, KPop is a copycat of JPop? Di po ba mali yun? Lawakan po kasi naten ang ating isip. Siguro ang magandang tanong dito, “Bakit ang mga Pinoy laging nilalait ang sariling atin?” Mentality na lagi tayo inferior to other culture. Its high time to be proud, to wave our flag, na kaya naten to be the best! Mind set lng po ito!

[@dirkvincabael]

Method or system of "Idol groups" is implemented the same way in Kpop. But if we say that PPOP is a copy then we should accept that KPOP is copy too, most of the things you can see in kpop industry did not originate in Korea... WE SHOULD USE "INSPIRED" NOT "COPIED" cause it's very negative

[@gwenmloveskpopandmore]

No but K-Pop has helped set and laid out The modern foundation of P-Pop for what it is today. If it weren’t for K-Pop doing that we wouldn’t have SB19, Bini, BGYO, and all of those other Amazing groups. As it’s inspired. I hope P-Pop can do the same for another country in the future

[@wall-e9962]

Vst & Co is bee gees inspired

[@EmJay-z8j]

Kpop always lipsync and relying on heavy backtracks..let be real kpop not good in vocals only visuals..while pops have the guts to sang live vocals... soulful... stable vocals while dancing

[@chrisdcsilva]

The problem with these conversation is the word used. COPY connotes something negative. And copying gets the exact copy of the thing being copied. INSPIRED is the right term. If you are inspired with something, you emulate the positive and use it to produce something beautiful as well. And SB19 is very much vocal since the start that they get the inspiration to become a group from K-Pop. Heck, their management is Korean, to begin with. But as they grow in popularity, they begin to infuse their own flavor to their music. The K-Pop discipline is still there. But you already hear the Pinoy Music in their sound.

[@wall-e9962]

Hagibis is Village People inspired

[@breyrey7612]

From my perspective, VST songs are accepted by the majority as OPM even though they were originally viewed as a copy of Bee Gees. No reason why SB19 songs should be treated any differently.

[@MrAgnoGamerTV]

KPOP also copies the style from Japanese boy bands (color of hair, hairstyle, dress style, and even with a few words of English added to the songs) this was I think during the 80s or 90's when most of the songs have Filipino versions

[@chelle6943]

Wow may nadagdag sa kaalaman ko n nman ngayon 💙💙💙

[@lillostich5795]

Kpop is a music sang in korean,ppop is a music sang in filipino two of them are very different the only thing in common about them is they are under a pop genre and their language all pop genre have the same beat just like drama shows all drama are the same kdrama,western drama,j drama all in one genre drama. Also kpop was inspired by jpop and ppop already exists on 1970s older than kpop.

[@hewhomustnotbenamed2864]

Everything is influenced by something done prior. Nothing is truly original.

[@AsianEntertainmentandCulture]

agree to this one. hello there, Valdemort.

[@mayflorcatubuan7985]

I think we should take the meaning of Pop first. It is popular music. What is popular at the time of their release? What is "trending" as most now call it. I appreciate you pointing out the popular sounds or bands in our country for the past decades and if one compare it to the sounds of their times, one would see similarities too. Fortunately or unfortunately, pop from the west did not attach their countries name to it. It would be weird even now to say UKPop or USAPop. Undeniably, the past decade has seen the rise of Korean music in the world. It has been accepted by many. So I think Kpop is being brought up every time because it is the popular sound these days.

[@amantiad7896]

So what would you think about pinunong pablo’s lyricism specially MaPa song, you tell us which band ever you heard ever in your life could wrote a kind of song which tribute to our beloved parents

[@AsianEntertainmentandCulture]

i did a reaction on MAPA and i pretty much said everything i thought about the song. I did say that 1- no one can write about filipino sentiments and culture the way we can because no one will understand our culture best than we do 2- Pablo is a different level when it comes to songwriting. the way he plays with words and connects it to thoughts is the best bar none

[@midoreeeee]

To all the haters, how can you say that Ppop is a copy of Kpop if most Kpop songs are originally written in English by foreigners? There's a lot of Kpop song demos here on yt that you can check for yourselves. See? That's the point. Kpop is just pop, but in korean. Y'all are just saying Ppop is copied from Kpop because it's popular worldwide rn, whereas some countries who did it first go unnoticed, just like what Pablo said. It's definitely inspired tho, just like how Kpop is inspired by American pop and Jpop.

[@hrtyu9625]

Who said pop song belongs to Korea? Only Korea can do it?

[@Roberto-dw5jz]

Fun fact: Kpop is descendant from American Pop, Japanese Pop and Black Music(HipHop and R&B)

[@onlinestreamingnow]

NAH. SOME PEOPLE ARE JUST HYPOCRITES. IF PPOP WAS A COPY THEN KPOP IS OBVIOUSLY A COPY TOO. BAHAHA TRY AGAIN, HATERS.

[@virgilialim4130]

PPOP is not a copy of KPOP. Even if SB19 was trained by a Korean agency but you can still their is a difference, their song is still about them being Filipino.

[@AsianEntertainmentandCulture]

i essentially agree with you. that's why i spent about 2 minutes talking about the similarities and the rest i discussed the differences between kpop and ppop. i also established boyband is an old concept for us. i also said that in lyricism, Ppop is superior.

[@creepynoodles8111]

And then there is 4th Impact, who gained their popularity from X-Factor UK. 4 sisters, not a casting call. Yes, they are currently learning K Pop ways now that they are with ShowBT, but they are not a product of a K Pop style idol mill.

[@pinoyrock4090]

Weird question, how about Jpop, Ipop, Tpop of different nation. They have their own version or personality.

[@AsianEntertainmentandCulture]

Jpop is different actually. until recently, they were very loyal to their own sound

[@wall-e9962]

No When I listen to them- they are more OPM + 90s boy band instead

[@k8clavel-g]

Yay! 😍💓

[@keyten5957]

Let's face it, any band/group/musician who becomes acceptable to American standards get worldwide recognition. Tons of money and ultra high standards of technology/expertise are involved - the difference of KPop and PPop lies between these precepts. ShowBT has seen pure talent of Filipinos and invested wisely on SB19. Do you call this a Korean template? I think it's an "American" or Hollywood template. Bottom line, what sells in the West will sell worldwide.

[@gerlan201]

Fans don't be mad agad agad when she said PPop is copied from KPop. Because we have to admit it is. I'm a die hard A'Tin too but I respect ma'm's opinion as she's an authority and could actually help PPop. She even said what sets us apart from KPop is our lyricism.

[@EmJay-z8j]

pop was already existed before this kpop becoming popular

[@belladolfcs1572]

haba ng pagtatalo d2, malinaw naman na di kinopya, kundi nagkaruon lang ng inspirasyon, nagkalakas loob at nagkataon na ang kpop ang kilala sa kapanahunan ng ppop ngayon...ang tao kasi komo sumasabay ka sa uso, sasabihin gayagaya, kinopya lng...e alam nyo ba na maraming pinoy na nuon pa ay inalok at nangiibang bansa para lang magturo..pagsayaw, pagsalita ng ingles pati na rin pagtatanim atpb...kaya yang salitang kopya e malabo ibato partikular sa sb19, lalo nat kita ang talento ng bawat isa..kaya ganun na lang ang tiwala at respeto ng kompanya nila...ang kawalan at kakulangan lang sa mga talentadong pinoy e suporta ng kapwa at ng gobyerno...ang nakakainis at nkakalungkot e kapwa din nila humihila pababa.

[@XianjoeCasimiro-bf5yk]

They can't not copy the industry of other country 🤨

[@kiringalvadores2860]

Nice. There are things that I disagree with and there are some that I agree with. But you're right, I just hope Ppop artists come up with our/their own style, sound, fashion, choreography, music, etc. 'Coz all of these thing I notice is still too highly inspired, some even just reeally copy Kpop stuff. For me, Ppop music or sound is like Sarah g and Donnalyn Bartolome's music and songs but SB19 and other Ppop groups just looks, sounds, dances, etc. Like a kpop Idol, like really. The only difference I see is them being filipino and does sing in filipino. Ppop artists not all but the majority still lacks that "identity" or own style, dance, look, sound, etc. It's ok to copy other elements of kpop specially some of their trainings. And yes it's ok to be inspired or even copy but maybe it's better to make your own version or just have a hint of what inspires you not the other way, I mean not that the majority of what you do is like Kpop but there's only a hint of OPM and filipino stuff, music, etc. Well all of this is just my opinion and what I wish to happen or someting like that. We all may have different opinions but for me, we still need to push for our own style or just. Original. Materials or such.

[@AsianEntertainmentandCulture]

Sarah G! wait, i have't checked out Donnalyn

[@wapakels09]

para saken ang layo ng standards ng pilipinas pagdating sa talent , unlike sa korea kapag maganda kutis mo ,itsura mo or kung hindi naman msyado pede ka nila iparetoke 😁at pede ka ng maging artist. yung sb19 naman maybe They're handled by korean company,so yung tema na pinapagawa saknila similar sa kpop,but to be honest sobrang layo ng sb19 sa ibang kpop artist.ang pilipinas sobrang daming bansang naka impluwensya saten mga panhon pa ng pananakop,maybe super trend lang talaga kpop sa buong mundo kaya kapag grupo na at kung anong trend sasabihin agad gaya gaya sa kpop.alangan naman manatili tayo sa mga grupo ng kapanahunan naten na masculados at viva hotbabes hahaha😆✌🏽 balik tayo sa topic... ang kpop mas naka focus sa itsura kesa sa totoong talent like 90% sa kpop hindi kayang mag perform ng live vocals sa buong concert or sa buong performance nila . asan ang quality don?samnatalang sa atin sa pinas kapag di mo kayang kumanta ng live at wala ka sa tono hindi ka sisikat napaka pikihan ng pinoy pagdating sa kantahan dahil alam naman naten na kilala ang pinas pagdating sa kantahan dahil sa pilipinas din unang nakilala ang karaoke.kaya NOO 😁

[@ericsohn5084]

Immitation is the origin of pretty much everything, anything.

[@carmelia1518]

Hagibis followed the style of The Village People.

[@frisc0pn0ib0i]

Bakit ba ang toxic ng mga ibang A’tins. SB19 even said inspiration Nila ang BTS and Korea did create this group. Problema sa ugali nang mga Pinoy they think they can be inspired by something and then call it their own. No one is denying SB19 of their hard work. Stop getting mad over small comments.

[@janetxmariah]

KPop is a copy of WesternPop. FYI 🎶😊

[@AsianEntertainmentandCulture]

yup!

[@mnl48theppopqueens15]

MNL48 music is part of PPop and they're not even KPop. So this kinda gives the logic. PPop is simply OPM with influences from around the world.

[@joyoh2287]

are hajji and basil also pop ?

[@AsianEntertainmentandCulture]

yes they are pop

[@batiyol]

I would say ppop is actually kpop, ppop dance style,fashion and visual is sooo kpop, the only thing they called themselves a ppop group cuz they are pilipino

[@keunatv2516]

Singing and dancing Backstreet boys, and more boy band in 90's left the group🤷

[@kenchiken749]

Nahhh

[@beeetchferson7394]

Copy is correct word. Some Ppop groups copy styling and even mv in Kpop.

[@keunatv2516]

Yeh kpop copying jpop and Apop because jpop is so popular in 90's so even the dance style now they copied it from black community so😌

[@dayaksukuku]

PPOP BETTER THAN KPOP 😂 BECAUSE PPOP GOOD SINGERS AND GOOD DANCERS (sorry for my english and this my opinion)

[@carmelia1518]

1 thing kpop did good in the Phils, they produced good music and not sexualised kind that Kids dancing following sexbomb dancers or viva hot babes

[@virgilialim4130]

If that is the case the two western countries could sue them for copyright or whatever legal means it is.

[@AsianEntertainmentandCulture]

i am afraid copyright laws don't work that way. it has to be tangible. if someone copies someone's lyrics or beats, they can sue because you can prove that with musical notes. but if someone says "he copied my style", there will be absolutely to tangible basis for the claim. also, it's assimilation, not really copyright infringement. kpop came to OUR country. they have to deal with how we do things. Philippines is our country. our rules. anyone who comes to our country should play by our rules. if they don't want their culture and art adopted and assimilated, they should stay in their country like how Japan did it for years.

[@beatbox6411]

Pop was popularized by American. KPOP hugely copy what western pop is and make it thier own. But Pop was originated by american musicians. So don't say KPOP was not derives from american Pop music. like other group as poping as of now everyone was inspired by amercan Pop but Ppop was hugely different from Kpop because of lyricism. Kpop was mostly copied from american style of POP. The lyrics they used are commercialized.

[@AsianEntertainmentandCulture]

i never discussed Kpop's origin in the video. so i didn't say Kpop was not inspired by American pop music. they were. they admit it - Motown, MTV era, Michael Jackson, etc.

[@beatbox6411]

@@AsianEntertainmentandCulture ah this is not intended for you maam but to those people claiming PPOP are KPOP copycat. As I reserch KPOP their music intention is more on the beat which is hugely westernized since their company are usually hired american music producer or whatnot. PPop however like SB19 they focus more in two category in Music producion which is Beat and Lyrics that inspire more on OPM. I'm happy that you discuss this type of topic maam.

[@AsianEntertainmentandCulture]

​@@beatbox6411 let me know if you want me cover anything else. 😊

[@jungcookie3018]

i believe POP has no origin

[@MarkLeysa_officialaccount]

Malabo kpop korean music compare na lang nila kasi korean nag promote pop group. Sb19 patunay lang na kaya pinoy makipag sabayan sa pop music. Way back 2000 billy crawford brings international pinoy pop music scene. Boy group noon its not pop music more on ballad lang pop music contains rap dancing singing.

[@kitcab3527]

Your analysis is oversimplifying the interdisciplinary culture of Asian pop esp. Pinoy pop. KPop copied JPop so this copying subject is oxymoronic. Besides, pop is from the Western music culture. KPop is not the epitome of Asian pop. JPop already established the culture from the beginning. KPop is just more popular because the government put so much money on creating their pop groups for their economy and now they are owned by corporations with tons of investors. Of course, these producers have the responsibilities to make tons of money for their investors and products so sampling and buying rhythms from Western countries can make their sound easily more recognizable in the West and marketing them bigly helps. Sb19 is one of the rare groups, hence, making their own music from conception to distribution and marketing. The only groups I know that did this were the Beatles, NSync, Big Bang, the Monkees and Rolling Stones (in the 60s). ShowBT is not as huge as YG and others. But SB19 made the company credible in the industry with Tatang Robin's determination to make sure of their success. I’m glad SB19 got the Korean training coz the Korean mentality embeds strong discipline and determination. SB19 is embracing the growth of pop world not because it’s rooted from earlier Filipino sound. We can’t avoid that they are Filipinos and still embrace the sentimentality of family dynamics on most of their songs but their sounds are global. These are what makes them apart and unique. As much as I respect your opinion, I think you should emphasize that it is only your opinion. Though it is your channel, you have to do more research to make your audience learn something a more reliable source as your channel is consumed by the public. Asian Pop is more complicated and the ever changing Filipino sound is a big part of that, if only Filipinos stop comparing SB19 to KPop. Colonial mentality is like a virus installed in the country's psyche. And that is super annoying.

[@AsianEntertainmentandCulture]

Your analysis is oversimplifying the interdisciplinary culture of Asian pop esp. Pinoy pop. KPop copied JPop so this copying subject is oxymoronic. ==> Kpop was copied from Motown and the MTV era, therefore West. Besides, pop is from the Western music culture. ==> we've had pop before, even during the Spanish. it is simply not in the form we know it today. it was that era's version of pop. but we've had pop. It didn't come from the West. KPop is not the epitome of Asian pop. ==> i never said that. KPop is just more popular because the government put so much money on creating their pop groups for their economy and now they are owned by corporations with tons of investors. Of course, these producers have the responsibilities to make tons of money for their investors and products so sampling and buying rhythms from Western countries can make their sound easily more recognizable in the West and marketing them bigly helps. ==> part of what you said is correct. their government put money into the enhancement of culture and arts. creation of the idol system was a private venture. Sb19 is one of the rare groups, hence, making their own music from conception to distribution and marketing. ==> they don't do their own distribution and they do part of their marketing. And SB19 is the one of the three group I singled out in reference to the uniqueness and superiority of their lyricism. The only groups I know that did this were the Beatles, NSync, Big Bang, the Monkees and Rolling Stones (in the 60s). ===> NSync only had a hand on their last album. prior to that, they were handed their songs, choreo, marketing etc. Big Bang were given songs in their first album, and then they started taking control in their 2nd comeback. they didn't do their own marketing. they didn't do their own distribution. The Beatles, The Monkees, Rolling Stones didn't do their own marketing and distribution. Though it is your channel, you have to do more research to make your audience learn something a more reliable source as your channel is consumed by the public. Asian Pop is more complicated and the ever changing Filipino sound is a big part of that, if only Filipinos stop comparing SB19 to KPop. Colonial mentality is like a virus installed in the country's psyche. And that is super annoying. ===> though this is your comment and you have the right to say what you want to say, you have to learn something to actually contribute something substantial to the discussion. Crab Mentaility, being a poser, and being disrespectful is a virus instilled in people like you. And it's embarrassing

[@kitcab3527]

@@AsianEntertainmentandCulture I did not disrespect what you said. But discussion is part of being on this platform. Thank you for commenting on what I said. If opposing some or adding some awareness regarding the subject is annoying, then there's a problem. Accusing me as a poser? Well, that is your own judgement.

[@AsianEntertainmentandCulture]

you implied things i never even hinted. you accuse of having crab mentality. you accused me of comparing SB19 to kpop. you were dropping terminologies you obviously don't know enough about .you corrected what i said with wrong information. you ordered me to do research when it is obviously you who aren't doing research. i laid out facts and you called it opinions. you don't call that disrespectful and being a poser? if you want progressive and respectful conversations and discussion, start by actually asking for clarification. "wasn't kpop a copy of jpop? because based on my research [insert substantiation]." now that's the beginning of a progressive and respectful conversation, not by calling people names.

[@kitcab3527]

@@AsianEntertainmentandCulture I never called you names. Maybe the tone of my writing is quite assertive, hence, your misinterpretation and made it so personal. Implications are based on interpretation. Colonial mentality is still prevalent in the country. Everything is perceived as copies from other countries. I don't know where you got the crab mentality. I don't think you are that. What I said was all based on different mediums and mostly interviews from these entertainers. The groups I mentioned have mostly done their own musical projects fully whether it be one album or the rest of their careers. Different versions of pop is true as it is still evolving.

[@AsianEntertainmentandCulture]

Alright now that you are in a respectful tone, i shall respond respectfully too. let's discuss your sources first. Unless you tell me which media those are and interviews, i will not be able to provide either a clarification or a validation. SOME of the groups you mentioned did their writing and producing and arranging. none of them did their distribution and none of them did their 100% of their marketing. all of them also had producers or arrangers. they do part of their marketing but not all of it. Nsync did write their last album (after they sued their manager, Lou Pearlman and subsequently won that lawsuit). prior to that, they were given the songs to sing with some contributions here and there. Now, this is not an insult. this is a sincere question and i do not mean anything by this. please don't think i am belittling you. this is just strictly to help your discussion. I am just curious. what do you know about music marketing and distribution? i ask because MAYBE you have a different concept of distribution and marketing. now, if you are actually working in the industry and/or you know more, please, go ahead and educate me. I am always open to learning. and would gladly admit i am wrong if you are able to shed brighter light on the subject. ==== now, in terms of tone and interpretation. i didn't make it personal. you did when you accused me of having colonial mentality. and i know that it was directed at me because it was all in the same paragraph that was directed at me in the beginning of the paragraph. i retaliated to make you go on a full stop. you also implied that i didn't do proper research. i think that saying things like that are unnecessary because you could have simply substantiate your claims instead of making a generic statement about my research efforts. If you have ever been to any of my videos, i often shut down people who are disrespectful in the comment (as much as i can) because I do not tolerate that behavior in general. also, i would like to foster a progressive discussion in my videos instead of snarky remarks. sometimes, the discussion get heated but for as long as people stay within the facts and not touch on anything beyond that, i am good. admittedly, many slip because of i don't always have the time to comb through everything. but i try. that's why I said, if you have inputs, stick with the facts. no need to comment on things not covered by the video. as you can see, there are a lot of people in my videos that correct me, give their inputs, disagree with me and that's all and good. for as long as they stay within the subject and keep our personalities out of it, they can write a dissertation on why i am wrong and i will gladly publish it.

[@rashedahassan6082]

But still, Britney Spears, for me influenced kpop. Not copied ha, influence lang

[@Baily_Tube]

In general, no. PPOP is NOT a copy of KPOP. For what my opinion is worth, I think PPOP is more American. The stories told through Pinoy music is what makes it Filipino. The same goes for KPOP. There would be no KPOP without America (just like their fried chicken). As pointed out, the KPOP industry did make a template based on experience. Until someone builds a better mousetrap, it's smarter to use what is available.

[@yorrefuse9823]

People should look also to evolution mam. Sa simula muka at tunog kpop ba cla o diverging na sila after? Nahanap ba nila ung lugar nila sa music industry? Mey naukit ba silang sariling marka? O tayo lng ba na appreciators ang di nagbago at rigid pa rin tingin natin sa kanila? Napaka self defeating nman kasi sa atin na maxadong harsh tau sa kapwa pinoy. Tingin ko po mam kusa nman mawawala ang unfits, and only those who really deserve to be ppop ang mag survive. At the end of the day ung basehan nman eh kung nakakarelate tau or not sa music nila. The system gaano man kagulo or wala ba tlgang originality, it will self correct itself nman. They will just die in natural death. Let them be na lng cguro. Enjoy enjoy lng tau.

[@AsianEntertainmentandCulture]

we have similar opinion on the evolution. but we disagree on the timeline. so, i established that our lyricism is superior AS IT IS. so, in terms of sound, we are superior and different. however, i don't think we have evolved away that much YET in looks which is a huge part of what made Kpop so popular. they appeal to almost all senses. i see SB19 and Alamat starting to evolve (again, in lyricism, we are superior already). as i've mentioned in the video, i think we will. we will evolve, we will establish our own identity in the global music industry and i think it will happen sooner than later.

[@nenitapena5]

Yes they copy kpop which is good because they trained in korea

[@mahalimar_atin8529]

No they're not trained in korea. They trained by the koreans here in the Philippines.. They applied the korean system training here not in korea... And its not COPIED its "INSPIRED"..

[@bataching4392]

Mag research ka.muna bago ka mag comments 🤣😂🤣😂😂😂 nag mumukha anu eh🤣😂😂😂

[@aelladacuba7381]

haaaayyyy buhay!!!

[@majennybuena996]

Nah they're not ogok ka lang !!!

[@John-km4zn]

PPop is literally K-pop in tagalog dub.

[@yeye1103]

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[@vinceeso9037]

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