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[@anitaherbert1037]

To give Bang Si Hyuk credit... it would not have been possible for BTS to flip the power dynamic between company and artist without Bangs complicit participation. He talked from the begining of a structure that was not hierarchical but more horizontal. He had the intelligence and lack of ego to recognise the contributions and effectiveness of accepting ideas from his artists. When he recognised the power was slipping away, he did not try to grasp and clamp down, he facilitated. You dont need to be intelligent to love BTS but attracting a fandom a generally more intelligent fandom is also like an insurance policy. Intelligent fans are less likely to be swayed by media gossip. They will investigate, research. They are not passive. They learned how to use the system, think tactically and organise. This is an aspect of ARMY that is extremely enjoyable. There is a culture and feeling of being part of a cohesive society so at odds with the fractured divided world we see around us.

[@shyfan68]

Well said

[@jozefi68]

Yes

[@0xyGen_2.p0]

@@anitaherbert1037 so well said

[@deecee4529]

💯💯💯💯💯

[@anitaherbert1037]

@@shyfan68 💜

[@nicoleloss7987]

Bts as a group, subunits and solos is so strong

[@0xyGen_2.p0]

I agree! And that's beauty of these 7 boys, they are important and so talented not only as boy band, but also as individuals! These boys really inspire me with their individual and mutual strenght

[@minkeytalk]

I had a plan when BTS went into the military, l thought that they won’t be releasing an album so l could save my money over this 2 years and be ready for the big return album and concerts etc…. But oh no BTS went solo and all seven put out an album and merchandising individually. So instead of buying one or two albums over this time ,l have paid for seven albums plus movies etc etc. not to mention the streaming etc…Don’t get me wrong l am enjoying the content and would not have it any other way .💜 Honourable mention to JIn who has not taken a breath since returning to us.

[@Mbella354]

Bless that man he came running right out of the gate!...💜

[@MBAhmo-ry3mg]

I will be broke at this pace for sure. Then I’m praying they will come to a venue near me but then it’s high stakes to get tickets. I don’t even know how to budget for tickets, Army bomb, pop-up merch etc. But I will always support an buy the albums.

[@0xyGen_2.p0]

ADOR is now not an empty shell, it is CLEAN SHELL ready to give home to new artists.

[@AlexaOleksa]

Unfortunately it now has been stained and to clean themselves they need to debut someone absolutely opposite to nj

[@0xyGen_2.p0]

@AlexaOleksa agreed!

[@Ellakimmy-i9s]

​@@AlexaOleksatots agree if they going to debut a new girl group they defo need a serious team that have the ability to bring talented girls together cos that's the only way hybe has only two groups that have nice vocals and that's NJ and fromis 9

[@simple_me5283]

Don't put in ador they will have bullying since begining,maybe make new agency or put ini coz/bighit entertainmnt

[@sisisworld]

First they need to clean MHJ minions from Ador. Then it will become a really clean shell. I don't believe she resigned and didn't let some roaches there.

[@seahorse3267]

I was having an early dinner at a local sushi joint in NYC at 5 pm and jhope w/ friends got seated next to me. My hands were shaking so hard I couldn't eat or drink my sake. I texted my friends because I didn't want to be noticed sitting alone & not eating. I thought about asking for my food to go. So I FEEL YOU!!! This was a few days after his Lolla performance.

[@readbooks9985]

OMG, I would have fainted 🤯

[@TheClutterFairy]

What a moment that you experienced! So fabulous!

[@overy2575]

You were the luckiest person at that time!

[@rashmikiran4602]

My Playlist is 100+ songs long🤧🥹😭💜💜💜 And I keep on adding BTS's all songs. I use Premier account on Spotify and almost everyday keep on jamming to BTS Playlist while working in my Home/workshop (since I m a Freelancer) . Anyways, I am obsessed 😅. My family thinks , I lost my mind. 😅 my bias is RM, but I am so obsessed with every other memeber. 😂

[@MBAhmo-ry3mg]

I can relate 100%! I call it my BTS radio station bc they’ve covered so many different genres you can always find something you’ve not heard in a while and it’s fresh again!

[@Cat-Tiger-Taegi-Cult]

I prefer to see it more as a blank canvas, better days ahead for the company.

[@geekyreader34]

Some members have their own new fans but to BTS they call every fan Army’s

[@CMAGCJ]

@@geekyreader34 Yes, I agree. Their solo music will bring some solo fans, not really interested in the other members’ music. They will be called Army, too. The important thing is that they respect all the 7 members as well as all Army. We have to respect them, too. And we have to remember that change brings more change and evolution.

[@bourjoism3917]

BTS music lyrics is indeed too smart and intelligent for an average mind The trilogy concept is out of this world not only they are story tellers but also give us the strength we need to go on our daily lives..Tomorrow is my all time favourite 👍

[@nicoleloss7987]

It is important we focus on streaming, buying and voting for bts as a group and as soloist

[@IslandGirlE87]

Yes ALL SEVEN members of BTS! 💜T7

[@sarasumayya3839]

JIN n HOSEOK will be in the running next MAMA

[@geekyreader34]

My ultimate dream is to see more support for the RL. Because I feel each individual rappers success is coming more from their fan base they’ve accumulated and not so much from Army’s as a whole. Because you can’t tell me that the musical genius in production, lyrics and composition behind many of bts’s s successful songs including vl songs, can not get the same Army numbers as the vocal line. Even just out of respect for the RL contributions to BTS musically and projects for other artists and their own projects, army’s should be pushing them to the top too

[@lenkaprochazkova5129]

I agree wholeheartedly. I love rap line. The only kind of music that attracts viewership is, unfortunately, more in pop... But around me, more and more people are leaning towards rapline - and that's great.

[@movingforward3030]

The thing is, the VL has more GP support due to the type of music they enjoy. You can see that with JK. I think the RL actually shows us how many true ARMYs we have and we should remember that. I try to introduce the RL to my friends who enjoy that type of music. So that they can grow a fan base there. That being said, say one bad thing about the RL and I will not allow you in my group ever again. Those 7 men are my heart.

[@nicoleloss7987]

Its good for a label to have groups famous domestic and foreign

[@manasa3953]

BTS IS SOOOOO STRONG AS A GROUP AND AS SOLO ACTs THAT ITS ACTUALLY INSANE.

[@JungkookTaehung]

Watched MAMA 2024 so far very much enjoyed Katseye and ILLIT and Big Bang...got me rewatching BTS award shows....Kings set the bar to the stratosphere nothing really came close save maybe for Katseye jaw dropping debut. IMO. Feel better soon Fairlane

[@ofelia7077]

I don’t think anything they have done is wrong, it’s the consequences of the behaviour other’s greed and need for control created. They can’t be punished for hard work, creativity and dedication. I think everything happens for a reason and at the end of the day, I am at peace, they are intelligent men and they will thrive. Thanks for the interesting chat 😊

[@annestevens7702]

Jimin is my bias but I love them all (=7)❤️🥰🥰💜💜

[@minkeytalk]

Perhaps if the industry would have welcomed them in instead of trying to destroy them they might have become part of their industry and the big 3 would still have control ,but because they blocked BTS, they took a different path and that is what made them successful. Times always change and people who were successful have to change with the times or they get overtaken by others who are willing to risk the change and ultimately become more successful. What worked years ago has to keep improving or they become dinosaurs from the past.

[@rosiealvarez7389]

I am a baby army been following since a bit over six months (I'm 63). For what is worth this is my conclusion as well, they had to figure out another way they had no choice.. They suffered so much heartbreak and hardship, but they persevered and triumphed. I just hate the fact there is still so much toxicty towards them. Some people expect them to just move out of the way to give other artists a chance? That's not how it works it's a competitive business. There's Jealousy and envy I understand those emotions or feelings. But those spreading hate and negativity on others rather than encouraging their favorite artists is just sad. I knew of BTS but not really anything about them but luckily my sis and her three daughters are fans of BTS AND kpop my sis helped me set up a spotify account and I've been streaming videos their Run Bts videos have me laughing they make me laugh so hard especially Suga and V. Ive delved into their personal stories as well through their 10th anniversary book. I adore them all. Reading about their continuing struggles made me cry. Deciding to follow them when I did happened to coincide around the time the whole Min hee debacle coming to light. The hate sent Suga's way because of his incident shook me and made me doubt my ability to be an Army.but I made a decision to be strong for myself and for those that get bullied. The fact that here have been multiple brazen attempts to try to pull other members into this fight, and hate directed at Jimin's win has made me realize that I made the right decision in following. I May be half a world away from SK AND BTS but I will continue to support and encourage them . I hope to one day see a concert but I know how competitive it will be ,perhaps the closest I will come is living with my sis and her daughters who have seen concerts by Seventeen,TXT and Jackson Wang. Who knows anything is possible. 💜💜🫰

[@0xyGen_2.p0]

I don't know much about BTS music, I started to follow each BTS member as soloists, and I'm OT7. How is this NOT making me Army? I'm definitely and undoubtedly Army , just that my roots didn't grow from BTS as music group, but from each member that is part of BTS individually. Because they all come from BTS, BTS is like "holy" name to me, however, strictly speaking, I listen solo albums and music, not BTS music (I might start listening band in future as well). Guys, we may be different in what exactly attracted us to BTS members or to BTS as group, but our goals and objectives are the same. I am rooting for further BTS success as much as I am rooting for individual success of each member. As long as members make music, I'm fine, be it as soloists or a group. I'm solid rock Army weather you agree or not.

[@anitaherbert1037]

We all came to BTS through an initial song. In a way you are so lucky. There is so much for you to discover. There is something to be said for following the evolution. You can do that at any time. Its how the ARMY culture grew. The struggle and growth and songs related to it, helped many ARMYs find their way. To learn how to just keeping going in the face of failures or adversities can end in success even though it feels like the world is against you. How positivity and kindness is a valid strategy for life. A quick entertaining way to understand their journey is to watch 2 really well made fan documentaries. THE TAYLOR MARI GUIDE TO BTS and XCELESTE THE HARDSHIPS OF BTS

[@0xyGen_2.p0]

@anitaherbert1037 o thank you for this!

[@lexybaginsky]

Of course you are ARMY! Everybody who supports all Seven is. As long as you don't want them to leave BTS and don't put some of them down to hype others up, you are ARMY and you are welcome!

[@0xyGen_2.p0]

@lexybaginsky I'm not against BTS, I'm for everything they want themselves lmao.

[@lenkaprochazkova5129]

I also started with Suga. Now I listen to everything from BTS and love it with all my heart. We all have our own path. True ARMY respects BTS and supports their creation. We are all closer to a member. No one can dictate who your heart loves - you're ARMY

[@ofelia7077]

& the points you made is key, they shouldn’t be concentrating on the international market the goal is to nourish and foster an environment that help artists grow, the success follows. International markets will sniff out creations & substance is key, it should be a foundation not superficial aspects. It’s not being a snob is intelligent analysis and appreciation of talent.

[@Ltor00]

I admire BSH’s vision for artists participation in the creation of their work. They do go against the system and the other big K-pop companies aren’t so much fighting against it as they are so invested and entrenched in it that they are having a hard time leaving it. JYP is trying with Stray Kids and I’ve seen glimmers of pushback from other groups but it will take a looong time.

[@bangtanssera]

I personally have no idea how it feels for someone not resonating with the music of each member in the big old year of 2024. like, firstly some members have had intros from long ago, then they had wings era solos, then love yourself solos, mots solos, pre-debut projects and now have actual debuts. all of them are so diverse that as for me it's no longer possible that not even one song of a certain member doesn't resonate with a person. there are almost no genres left bts didn't try nit just as a group but as soloists as well, maybe phonk okay yeah, found one. but if you like phonk bts dem hiphop songs like smfpt2 exists as well. I guess I'm just too lucky to be able to sincerely love at least some songs of each of the tannies

[@tanlktan4114]

No management would like the artists run free and bettering themselves. To most of the agents want to control the artists....like some of the group is replaceable.... actually this is against human rights? Good that the Bangtan grows stronger in the right path.....remember the songSnooze by Suga.....is for all younger artists sadly not too many artists appreciate it instead..scrutinized BTS.....like the 🪱. Thank you dear..... U

[@marjaloggen2649]

I so love Snooze!!

[@MikiBorahae]

I hope we can meet you someday in person, I would love to have more ARMY friends to hang out during events.💜

[@nicoleloss7987]

Fans of other artists should focus on their favorite by streaming, buying and voting.

[@OrangeKittyMeowMeow]

Yes, and not harassing other people or groups! People are ridiculous!

[@elaineOiwish]

Love all the info you have shared about the industry. I understand things better about the music business. I am amazed how ARMY are so organized in playing the game to get songs charting.

[@susicoco1]

I'm with you on the Intelligent Artists. Definitely the other kpop songs I have listened to, are basically noise makers. They can be catchy but to me it's more of a nonsense music that attracts regular Kpop fans. They bring nothing to me as an international fan. Now not every song needs to be deep and profound. You can have fun songs, but BTS showed that you need substance for longevity. I am curious to see other groups that have done this also become more successful due to the precedent of BTS.

[@chisays9936]

I actually never understanded that "blocking" thing? Coz if I stop with BTS I will not move next k-group I will stop whole kpop... coz BTS, I do sometimes watch/listen others, still havent found eny "my-cup-of-tee" only few songs from other idols 🤷‍♀️💜

[@overy2575]

I don't know if Military enlistment has one advantage for BTS. During this time each member of BTS, was able to SHINE singly and able to deliver the kind of music their "own" style in the best way. They have planned well because the company is visionary and the bts members are smart and have good souls.

[@Wise_Poetics]

Closer!!!!!!! It is a magnificent song! I prefer it to everything else on Indigo--an album I adore.

[@nicoleloss7987]

Great video

[@AnneMorr]

HYBE should hire you as as a creative/business analyst!

[@ladywolf5192]

CONGRATULATIONS on being so lucky to meet OUR HOBI 💜🫶🏼

[@lealarsen2017]

omg omg you sawww hobi omg i am so jealous

[@Sherluck93]

Solos are NOT just Armys with a bias! They hurt us. There are also casual BTS fans, who are not Army. 💜

[@tetiana_sun]

I've listened to 40 minutes so far and I'm even more convinced that there is a fairly large group of ill-wishers behind the Mordor-woman. It's such a blessing that BTS can rely on each other in their solo activities.

[@Ltor00]

The only thing I can think of is that MHJ has convinced NJ that they will have the same monetary support if they leave Ador. Career wise and business wise, I can’t understand how they would react as they have otherwise. As long as they have the contract in place with Ador, they can stay in their luxury hi rise apts. Hybe has to keep them there to protect its position.

[@lawaanjaideelyon1890]

I think Hybe knows Rhayader they were working with Mhj at her mew offices collected evident and will go to court to terminate their Contract Since they broke contract they leave with nothing

[@nicoleloss7987]

I heard jungkook closer to you in Applebee's

[@AnneMorr]

BTS is played in my Walmart everyday

[@geekyreader34]

I don’t worry about bts affecting the k pop world because BTS has surpassed all that. I still don’t like k pop no matter how much I try to listen to it. I like individual Korean artists and hip hop artists but k pop groups still have no interest in

[@makayahmilani2232]

Can you please make a separate video or a community tab with the Billion stats so we know what songs need more attention.💜

[@islandgirl1577]

That would be neat and we can bring those songs to over a billion

[@makayahmilani2232]

@@islandgirl1577 exactly.

[@Talks_a_latte]

Thanks for sharing the cover song ‘fools’

[@roguechevelle]

The idea that someone is in your way of being more successful is a very crab in the bucket mentality. Just because someone wins an award or is very successful it doesn't take away from your favs current success or their future success either. I think there were a lot of people who thought since BTS was going into the military they would be gone from the music industry but they didn't account for BTS solo work being so active during this time and they are pissed they are so successful at this as well. I think a lot of people should stop focusing on their groups trying to beat BTS when their heights are unheard of even compared to a lot of western acts and focus on keeping their group successful in general for a long time. Heck even second place is a huge achievement if you are being compared to or up against BTS or it's members. Army is going to vote for anything BTS members are nominated in (with some rare exceptions of those we deem unworthy of our attention). Do you see how hard Lim Young Woong fans go? It's impressive. Focus on going hard for your artists and don't be impatient to get to places fast build your community of fans.

[@whisper4423]

Thanks once again, for breaking things down. You help us to see the other side of things, even when we might not want to😊😊 The whole thing becomes overwhelming - I have to remind myself to control only what I can control, like streaming, voting and purchasing what I can, and NOT think I can fix any of these greater issues.

[@sarasumayya3839]

They can’t do anything about their solo success except-- bask in it

[@lotta7235]

The suggestion to disqualify only BTS bc of their service to their country makes no sense at all. They did the work before the service and many others are credited too. 🤬🤯

[@OlgaCamaraza-c4o]

The more they attack BTS, the more support they will have because they are an example of struggle, love and happiness and not hatred and victimization.

[@carolawasberg6271]

I could say yes too but they had to sign a new contract that is rock hard on what is demanded of them, no mothers/parents interfearings, they need to read the rules of how workers act to know when to speak up or when to shut it and don't butt in and a ceo/boss is a boss not someone you lick in the....or send love/ chear up letters too

[@anitaherbert1037]

You may not like bars but I bet you would love an english country pub and beer garden. They are for families and usually allow well behaved dogs. Often have nice gardens. The atmosphere is very relaxed and in winter often have log fires . Some even have live music. My favourite used to have a jazz quartet during the summer holiday season.

[@angelacastillo987]

Take warm ginger tea instead. And use real ginger, not the prepared mixes. Hope you get better soon.

[@moonlightpaw5868]

Newjeans want to be out of ador follow min heejin so much that they think someone ignoring them is a bully. If they were really mistreated, I am sure they would let the world know already. They don't have the evidence that they were mistreated so they make one up. Seems like Knetizen are blind when it comes to newjeans. These girls can bully others and their fans would cheer for them.

[@biologiteacher3470]

I love RM RPWP Album, I think I'm the only like it maybe, I know it's not going Soo popular but groin, nuts and Tomodachi is sooo good, is it that bad for RPWP popularity such a shame RPWP is a masterpiece

[@AnneMorr]

I don’t think RM created RPWP to be mainstream. It seems more of an art piece consisting of various musical experimentation. Only people who truly appreciate the art behind this album’s style, really get behind it.

[@nicolecmke]

Thinking about how BTS would've handled the situation NJ is in, I think it's safe to say that *BTS WOULD NEVER!!!!* BTS has been so lowkey and humble from the beginning and there's no way they would've been so incredibly disrespectful, rude and immature the way NJ is being. I think a lot of it has to do with their team and the people they have around them too. The BTS crew wouldn't have let them do what the NJ girls did with the Aespa stickers, nor would they have been so disrespectful if they had to testify the way Hanni was to CEO Kim Ju-Young without consequences. I think they would've been as classy as Illit and LeSerrafim are. But when you have a witch at the helm, your lines of what's right, respectful and decent become distorted. The way NJ has been handling this situation has completely turned me off and I have no respect for them.

[@AlexaOleksa]

33:06 they really need a proper animation series or a movie of bt21 with streaming or international screenings to set the bt21 in stone. Like i bet the series would be really successful for sure. Tgere is already so much lore to compile from

[@Ltor00]

Boy, the 50-50 case is really similar in the manipulation of the group

[@susicoco1]

I feel like new solo fans lose a lot of background on the guys. I dont want to say OT7 know them better, but I have noticed a lot of hate towards Individual promotions or projects and they blame HYBE or BH, instead of maybe recognizing that the artists themselves probably wanted them to go a certain way. I feel like V is the most of all the members who's solo fans dont get him. Im sure from what he said on his interviews from Layover that the way he is expressing his artistry and promotions are decided by him. He gets the most of solos saying he is abused, because he didnt have a documentary (yet) like the others, or he didn't get a tick tock or a longer video or more weeks promotions. But I think V did things his on way and he chose his own promotions and he had a different vision and his music was meant to be listened and loved differently. Same with RM on RPWP he decided a different stage. They all had the same time to create their projects and for some it took more time and different venues. And as OT7 I understand them and I receive any little or big projectbin any way they want. Christmas songs for V, bring them on. Artsy documentary for RM that may make me nauseous of its all wobly old school video..ok A Rock album and multiple shows from Jin lets do it. Apple documentary and live performances ok. A freaking tour, I could hope 😂.. Im all in it for their own colors. And then we can come back to Bora world

[@nicoleloss7987]

Bts members have control over their careers. They make their own decisions about promotion. Most of the bts members have master degree in business and marketing. They have stated this many times.

[@AlexaOleksa]

33:45 BT21 is best character design i saw among kpop idols characters. And i am not even biased here, just from the design standpoint they are best, they are so recognisable and simple that you can draw each character just with eyes, nose and mouth on a blan paper without any other outlines and you will recognise them. Other groups charaters i saw are much more busier designs or won't work as universaly as bt21.

[@carolawasberg6271]

Well if we compaire Stray kids with Bts, there music is so diffrent and I haven't heard songs with deeper meaning or that has a red trhead that continue in the next album from Stray kids, not even songs of there hardships in life like bts have given us and that is why they have so many fans that has fallen for there music. Music with meanings that you can relate to grabs you. And Bts was clever to put songs in korea/english that more fans understand and with that they blew away the boarder and gained even more fans and older people jumpt on and became Armys

[@sarasumayya3839]

I agree. It’s the musicality,lyrics,performance all put together that makes them exemplary. Lyrically most companies are lacking

[@ficnonnie6006]

The amt of Korean music I'd try if I could find out what the lyrics meant is crazy. I follow Hybe so much more than other groups because subtitles and lyric vid makers. Some other companies add subtitles but the overall lack is a big part of why most of my faves seem to be in Hybe. That said there's also some meat in other's work but yeah, there's a lot of vibes only music I don't relate to.

[@0xyGen_2.p0]

@@carolawasberg6271 Although, Stray kids are also really good and creative. I respect these guys for they also write their music and sacrifice themselves for success. And guys also have that positive charisma. I don't see Stray kids as competitors to BTS. They are just another talented group with their own path and as Army, I don't feel threaten by that. World is full of exceptional artists of various kinds, and this is how it should be. My respect then goes to Stray kids as well.

[@carolawasberg6271]

@@0xyGen_2.p0 Yes that's true but yet for me there music sound all kinda same, I don't hate Stray kids but they didn't grab me becarse I haven't found any songs yet with a deeper meaning. Bts has more poetry or there journey in life

[@0xyGen_2.p0]

@carolawasberg6271 I like Stray kids, they seem real thing to me, nothing fake like - and I apologise for saying this - Jenni for example. She does make songs that will top the charts, but she mostly sings about how beautiful and sexy she is and how everyone wants her, yadada (does everyone really want her? I'm pretty sure there are guys completely immune on her looks. Just another pretty doll in the sea of pretty dolls). Well enjoy girl, if this is all you have to say at your 30ies, and coming from a hierarchical society in which beauty standards are source of REAL and toxic social segregation, then what to say about somone who adds to this. You either have no intellect, or you are also a narcissist that isn't aware that beauty comes and goes. I give her 10 more years, then younger and prettier girls will steal that boring shallow line from her. Stray kids try to show their diversity and I'm pretty sure that once they establish their international status better, which is normal because at lrast two members grew up as Australians so they naturally would lean toward western music than (just) stay limited with k pop, they will folow BTS's creative path. I think this is what boys want and are hoping for, to have compkete creative freedom, like BTS do. I hope that company will let them have it, and won't see just mere products in them. And I hope that they reveal themselves from chains of toxic korean fandom mentality and get more open and intelligent international fans, because this might liberate them creatively. BYS guys have what no one in Korea has: intelligent, understanding, loyal and very supportive fandoms. What others have is "isn't our love enough" or "you had a girlfiend you have to leave the group". Our boys are, in a way, lucky to have us Armys, this helped them to walk their individual creative way as group and as individuals. They were able to do it because we never saw him as products and idols, but as talented young people that have lot of substancial to say and show. Stray kids don't have that, but at least they are trying to get rid of that suffocating "idols" role and mere kpop factory products and leave their own mark on their work. And I respect that. Because it is not easy to do that if you live and are based in Korea. Our boys are proof how hard is that, how much hate and jealousy it brings. And how much sacrifice they had to give up to be able to be who they are today. One of the greatest, and the greatest boy band in history. I want that chance for Stray kids too, for they seem to be genuine artists.

[@elizabethbenson9019]

Closer was my favorite song from Indigo too. I wish it had been released as a single. My favorite JK song is Standing Next to You. But frankly I love his whole album. And only listen to the alternative version of 3D with out Jack My Favorite Suga song is See Saw Agust D is Moonlight and Amygdala. (Telepathy slaps so hard I wish that had been a BTS single release) Jin is Abyss and Heart on the Window Jimin Like Crazy Tae Tae I love the entire album. Such a vibe! But Friends is my jam. JHope it is I don’t know and I wonder

[@nicoleloss7987]

We need to focus more streaming on sporty

[@ridita5221]

Please someone make a KZbin playlist of the pushed songs and actualize it weekly. That would be much easier to push the songs.

[@mrsta8233]

It's time to stop putting BTS in the kpop category. They have long since transcended that genre. Kpoppies are actually ignorant of fans outside Korea they don't really know how absolutely huge ARMY are. We are around 1 billion strong around the world and from what I see still growing. Jimin won top award at MAMA and other fandoms are accusing him of fraud. He's not here he's serving his country. Army were streaming in massive numbers. He deserves to win. To see him get disrespected and sent hate is all kinds of messed up. Othe groups have not gone through 10 years of hell they don't have a story to tell. They release songs that mean nothing and copy BTS. I am so angry that BTS are disrespected this way especially as they have brought so much to the country they adore. What an absolute disgrace their country doesn't love them back. The funeral wreaths sent to HYBE asking Suga to leave BTS were a disgrace to the country how disgusting that was. He fell off a scooter that does not require a licence plate or licence. 5 year old kids can ride them. Shane on Korea, if you don't want BTS there are plenty of countries that do. Think about this. None of those other groups will ever have the fandom size to make a difference. NO BTS no ARMY with that massive spending power. BTS have some extremely rich fans who spend big time on anything BTS touches and visits anywhere the boys have too to bring money to those places. All that stops if BTS stops. The disrespect is vile and shameful

[@cybrpunk]

Why is it acceptable to have j-hope and RM lagging so far behind in the billions club? Shouldn't something be done to bring them more in line with the rest? How can anyone take ot7 seriously with these disparities?

[@CMAGCJ]

Why would you get hate messages because you have a bias? Who said that real Armys can’t have one? I think that the Tannies are all so different and make different music in different genres, that it’s normal to be more related to one of them. The important thing is to love and support the seven of them. I hate the term Real Army’s, too.

[@AnneMorr]

The issue isn’t having a bias. The issue is when fans don’t support the group in its entirety and only push for their bias. That’s not what the group is about. They full support each other so we should be able to do the same.

[@CMAGCJ]

@ Yeahh, I agree. Still, I don’t understand why having a bias is a reason to getting hate messages. That’s just how toxic fans act. You can love and support all seven of them even if you have a favorite. That’s just human nature, you relate to things and people that do the things you like.

[@marjaloggen2649]

There are 9 IP's because Suga has two. (AgustD)?

[@roguechevelle]

good point

[@carolawasberg6271]

Yes she made Adore an empty Shell when the girls was the onley group and with that Hybe can in court give the proof of that she did drag the company down and loosing money and reputation. Hybe needs to act quick and get a new group in

[@nicoleloss7987]

Nj is still their. Their will be a boy group next. But not yet. Bighit and hybe are japan are debuting boy groups next year

[@0xyGen_2.p0]

It isn't empty shell, they just cleared out the company, will probably rename it, re-brand it and start with new artist(s). Ador needs to be cleared out of evil, satanistic worshipping and toxic people poisoning the air and people in it, and this is what's its going to happen now. Once you throw garbage out, you are left with clean house able to host new habitants. So this is the path that company will go.

[@Queenkingdom-nu5jo]

Ador should debut new girl group after Newjeans disbandment. Also, they should remove some of the poison rats staff in Ador. Katseye should have won the best dance performance not those unenergetic clunky moves of that group...🤐

[@nicoleloss7987]

Well nj is still their. The next group will be a boy group. But bighit and hybe japan are debuting boy groups next year

[@nicoleloss7987]

Nj has to pay 500million to ador and hybe to leave.

[@overy2575]

Can we help Blood, Sweat and Tears? It is 988M already in YT.

[@MaggieBesas]

It's good yo make an empty shell so NJ will not make money and they will not have a pay as well.

[@elaineOiwish]

Lol I would laugh if JHope saw you running off and thought WTHeck?! Was her hair dirty or something?

[@nichellemassey5483]

Remember in the USA we treat the celebrities differently

[@BTSgwamma]

Can you provide more information on the boys’ military duties? Why is there such a difference in salary? Why is V being paid so much more? What was the selection process and what are the demands and benefits of V’s assignment?

[@nicoleloss7987]

Where did you get this information. It is not public

[@carolawasberg6271]

Well if the girls end up walking away and desides to pay then they meed to rebrand and that's then too the whole consept and style if they even a slightest have anything of NJ with them they can be sued and with all that and with so many girlgroups out there what would they fall on? Hard times ahead 😅

[@bourjoism3917]

I think HYBE should dissolve Ador or rebrand it..otherwise it’s will have this bitter taste of MHJ a new clean sheet is a must.. I think Adorx will be cool

[@roguechevelle]

I agree just like Fairlane was saying I wouldn't want to keep the name made by the Shaman who helped devise the plan to destroy hybe from the inside.

[@emmahaslam1905]

The top floor, if ADOR vacates it could be filled with Korean and international artists and musicians on artists residencies. Illustrators animators and musicians could come and have their own little studios for 3 to 6 months at a time a separate communal artists space could be really fun. And Hybe artists could collaborate with them organically if both wanted to... They could display their work or have music sessions in Hybe's gallery too.

[@bourjoism3917]

@ very good idea …you should email HYBE I sure someone will like ur suggestion 💯

[@elizabethbesco4758]

Sorry for late comment. I have become huge Kats eye fan. They have more depth. V's latest post " cat saying Don't overthink, everything will be alright. V reply " yes he understands " Was referring to Suga our Cats wisdom?

[@gravy9gravy]

I think you’re wrong about 5050. The difference between Hybe/NJ and Attrakt/5050 is that Attrakt terminated the contracts unconditionally. This is exactly what the members were asking for in the injunction. The failure of the injunction does not reflect the validity of the underlying financial and mistreatment claims, and the only reason I can see for Attrakt to let them go is the possibility of the members prevailing in the end. As I understand it, the suit filed jointly against Warner’s, the Givers, the parents and the members were for tampering, not breach of contract. The members counter sued for the Cupid money owed, and last I heard Attrakt is suing Warner’s individually for tampering. It seems to me the 3 ex members are off the hook for tampering or breach of contract and that they will eventually get paid for Cupid (I still hear it every time I go to Walmart). Time will tell, but I think they’re sitting pretty and will do well in the US with their new venture.

[@Dssd0608]

They need to get some new trainees and artists into ADOR stat - no more NJ company

[@phoebetae675]

Ok, I get you about V. 😶🙄 But his projects are so mesmerizing, i don't understand you!😅 Yeah, i know it depends on some music taste, but still.. heh. I love his perspective on music, and taste, and voice so much. Waiting his new music with Park HyunShin and Bin Krosby. 💜

[@IslandGirlE87]

It seems this article about Adore is against Mama Roach and dirty pants when this goes to court, no?

[@sherryjyj5910]

Just want to see something: WITH HOW MANY SPOTIFY ACCOUNTS DO YOU STREAM ARMY???

[@AlexaOleksa]

31:42 not only legacy, but also if you want to not be ashamed to sing your songs when you are 40, 50 etc, you should think about making lyrics that are at least a bit more coherent than "ra ta ta" ,"sticker sticker" 🤷 I sometimes watch those MVs and think: imagine your 30th anniversay concert and you have to sing "sticker"😭

[@elaineOiwish]

Re about Ador….next year they will have another girl group. It will take a bit for old shorts to get out of their contract….

[@TheJacqueswong]

I really think that Seventeen is one of the biggest victims of BTS's success. I am just so happy that they finally won a Daesang last year. It is also Ironic that they are under the same umbrella organization but despite this, you can see how respectful Seventeen are about BTS success.

[@sharonnelson3713]

You know the word “victim” makes it sound like BTS purposely did something to harm another. That term also takes away from Seventeen their diligence, skills, talent, and hard work. With Seventeen’s success I don’t think they were because of BTS. The music industry is a very competitive world especially in Kpop. Also, BTS is very respectful to everyone. You know the much used term “victim” really takes away the true meaning of it and takes away from those who were actual victims. The careless use of it has degraded so much that people don’t care as much as they used to just like the term “racist”. Nobody cares anymore or scared of it. Just a food for thought. No shade meant.

[@TheJacqueswong]

@@sharonnelson3713 How about suggesting a word then? I was thinking in the lines of being a victim of circumstance. As good as Seventeen are, they had the misfortune of being at BTS's way, much like in sports where a lot of athletes didn't get to win because of that one dominant person (ex. Michael Jordan).

[@sharonnelson3713]

@ That’s how the world is. It’s not purposeful towards others. If you know anything about BTS then you would know that they had goals to make it in Kpop and not necessarily to become #1 and stay there for a long time and becoming global where they can’t be touched by not only Kpop groups but the entire world. That was not their goal and even the members have said they themselves were surprised and didn’t know how or why it happened. The only thing that made sense to them was army’s support and love and gives credit to army. As RM said “they brought up this little Korean boy group to the world “. BTS just wanted to put out good quality music. So Seventeen is not a victim of circumstance as they are talented and skilled group who has also found much success in a tough world of K-pop and receiving love and attention from the world.

[@laggingway1601]

I wouldn't say they are victims. It is just their timing. There is always a global group that occupies success and it is very hard to compete or replace them once they have global fandom. Incase of BTS they have occupied so many 'first time' achievements no other groups can surpass them. They need to do do something BTS has not done to compete and have same level of popularity and show their uniqueness. In kpop, its gonna take while because of their format not because there are no talents.

[@TheJacqueswong]

@@laggingway1601 That is actually my point. They are victims of circumstance. They debuted just a few years after BTS so all their success was overshadowed. It is only recently when BTS is on military service that they finally got the recognition after 10yrs. Anyway, Seventeen have just won their 2nd Daesang in a row which I think is well deserved and very timely since BTS will be back soon. It is similar to the Houston Rockets who finally won an NBA championship after Michael Jordan left for 2 years.

[@mitzkt1679]

Does anyone here know if RM's documentary that is being shown in Seoul will have English subtitles? My daughter lives there and would love to go see it but the teaser for it on the theater websites shows Korean subtitles. She is trying to ascertain whether certain theaters/showings will have English subs.

[@cristarose503]

I have been wondering for a long time what is the difference between Army and a BTS fan?

[@corsflores]

Yes,closer ny rm...

[@corsflores]

@1:32:00 anu yun,nakita ang crush tapos tago.lol😂

[@nicoleloss7987]

Mhj has filed a lawsuit against hybe and be lift lab

[@katmartiny8489]

56:00 where do I find this spreadsheet?

[@yen-8680]

Is NCT really that big in korea?

[@roguechevelle]

Well because of kmedia and korean tv if you see idols from the big 3 everywhere constantly you think they are really popular in general. It's why the general public was oblivious to BTS' growing international fame until it was too big for kmedia to obscure. There was a street interview done not long after BTS won their first US award for Top Social Artist at the 2017 Billboard Music Award (it might have been Asian Boss can't remember now) where they asked Korean people on the street and most were surprised, they thought Exo was more popular that's because domestically speaking that's all they ever heard talked about. I remember xCeleste even mentioning during a reaction video that she went to Korea when travel opened up again after the pandemic and despite BTS having huge success with Dynamite & Butter she was surprised there wasn't bigger noise there about it and not more BTS advertisement in local shops as other idols got cuz other idols faces were everywhere.

[@nicoleloss7987]

I fell bad for enpyhen.

[@martakozak8547]

yes but live voting was crutial and at the mama was very visible the power of Armys ,while all kpop though bts in military will be irrelevant

[@nicoleloss7987]

I understand that well.

[@nichellemassey5483]

What about JHope and RM

[@nicoleloss7987]

What

[@cybrpunk]

How are ARMYs completely ignoring that they left a member behind? Isn't it a big problem that the fandom is incapable of getting a fan voted award for j-hope? How many times are they going to say next time before it actually means something?

[@ruthfischer7615]

🙄 They didn't "leave a member behind" - many voted for him but there was only so much you can vote for. Winning for 4 of 10 places when you have to divide the votes is very very very good. Do you think that other fandoms - who do not have to divide their votes do not vote for their group? That are so few groups that do well that it is "easy"? And that is without people cheating. *Enhypen* *NCT Dream* *Seventeen* *Stray Kids* *Tomorrow X Together* *Zerobaseone* 8Turn AB6IX Astro ATBO Ateez B1A4 Baekhyun BamBam B.D.U BOYNEXTDOOR Cravity Day6 D.O. Epex Evnne F.T. Island Hui *J-Hope* Just B Key NCT 127 NCT Wish Oneus P1Harmony Plave Riize Super Junior Taemin Tempset The Boyz The New Six TIOT Treasure TWS WayV Woodz Xdinary Heroes Xikers Younite Zico

[@nicolechristine8764]

Katseye nailed their performance… the split was so iconic