What Raiding the Rich Did For Malaysia

One morning in September 1981, Malaysia conducted a financial dawn raid that stunned the British business community and reclaimed hundreds of thousands of acres of Malaysian plantation land for Malaysia.
In this video I want to talk about Malaysia’s strike against the remaining structures of the old colonial state.
Corrections:
5:47: Burma gained its independence in 1948, not 1949. I misspoke
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[@jonahansen]

I'm not sure I would call what happened "raiding the rich" or even nationalization in the normally understood sense. They bought them out fair and square. And a good investment it was for the new owners, while the workers got the shaft under both of them...

[@Chuck8541]

Yeah, it was just a loophole in the system they exploited. Nothing really groundbreaking. It was all legit fair. It just went from rich people to rich people. The peasants are always the pawns.

[@mukeshsharma-iq8dp]

Normal expectations from a Bumi Govt that did not empathise with the Malaysian workers in plantations because they were ethnic indians.🙏🏻

[@sh7de553]

Sadly, profits come first, national pride notwithstanding. Plantation workers getting shafted is a recurring theme to this day in the palm oil industry, only difference is Bangladeshi and Indonesians replaced Indian workers of the old colonial days.

[@MrAizatazmi]

@@mukeshsharma-iq8dp why should they? they were bring into malaya by their colonial masters

[@halahmilksheikh]

He's trying to clickbait this because his other videos like this did well

[@mfaizsyahmi]

One thing not mentioned in this video is how these plantations influenced, and continues to influence, urban development in Malaysia. Holding massive amounts of land, they're poised to become direct beneficiaries of an expanding economy and a growing population as all towns and cities are literally hemmed in on all sides by estate land. Many estate owners have now transitioned into property development, turning hectares of estate land into "planned" townships. One notable example is USJ, which stands for UEP Subang Jaya; UEP stands for United Estates Plantations. In the early days states and municipalities had had a lot of involvement in the development of brand new cities such as Petaling Jaya and Selangor's new capital Shah Alam, but as time progresses planning had largely been handed off to the estates' property development subsidiaries. The net result of this is generally poor planning of transportation networks, as all these developments directly dump their motor traffic onto the existing federal or state roads, clogging them. There's hardly any interconnectivity between the estates, so even if they're adjacent, you have to take long circuitous route on the congested arterial roads. If that's the case for roads, then the case for walkability, cyclability and public transport network is virtually nonexistent between developments. You can for example take a look at a satellite view and see how the townships of Klang Valley have subtle invisible borders where a double-carriageway road just end or turn sharply to a 2-lane road, or invisible lines where roads dare not cross. Those are most likely former properly lines of the estates that were once there.

[@sustainablerenewableintegr8311]

I thought I'm the only one who realise that

[@wanrazul]

Yup. A number of them ventured into real estate development

[@jonathantan2469]

I've noticed this since the early 2000s when I lived abroad in America & issues of urban planning were and still are frequently discussed there. I couldn't help but see parallels between suburban sprawl in America & the growth of sprawling suburban housing estates in the KL/Klang Valley, Penang, Johor Baharu, and my hometown. The Malaysian Dream of the 1980s to today... is your cookie/'kuih'-cutter terrace house in another "-Jaya", "Alam", or "Bandar Baru-", payable by a 30 year homeloan, plus two cars on loans for you and your wife. In fact, I would say it's American style sprawl with Malaysian characteristics. At least in America, you could cycle on the sidewalk or use the grid-style layout to avoid busy roads. And where I stayed, you could bring your bicycle on board their equivalent of the LRT.

[@ishouldhidemynamelmao345]

I would want to see a walkable city in Malaysia, would be nice.. I hate seeing how car dependent Malaysia is

[@markvietti]

British never get credit for modernizing 3rd world countries...

[@nobitanobi8888]

15:39 "These British companies walked away with a pile of money for their Malaysia assets. But after the sale, hardly any of them spent or invested that money well. For decades, they were plantation landlords tending to a passed-down legacy. What did they know about starting something new?" Ouch. Burnnnn.

[@dareka9425]

It's not surprising and I don't see any reason to laugh at them. The earlier generations will always be the innovators while the later ones are tasked to maintain them. Two different skills sets that changed over the century. I mean theses companies are returning home to compete with their own fellow countrymen who are entrenched more deeply locally. My grandparents were farmers and own some lands. Don't expect me to carry on their legacy since I was raised in the city and have no interest in toiling the land. I recently moved back to the village as a teacher but I couldn't care less about the farms. A decade ago there was bloodbath, figuratively, when everyone started to claim long forgotten pieces of land from one another to make palm oil estates for a new government agricultural. The legacy passed down from the elders through verbal promises and tree stumps/rocks/streams as land borders is no match from a village chief and his sons with a lawyer.

[@crypticTV]

1:20 Malaysia formation 2:32 Indian colonial government lobbying for workers rights 4:00 Chinese takeover 5:40 nationality 6:00 Anglophiles 7:35 sectarian violence 8:10 nep Bumiputra - Sri Lankans 10:50 company takeover 12:05 mahathir Mohamed 13:00 dawn raid UPC danish 16:00 shut Apple down Michael Dell 16:30 investment in Malaysia terms 17:00 Indian workers no gain

[@JohnsonChiw]

Agree as a Malaysian, Gutherie Raid was a milstone to Malaysia and a good message been sent to former colonial power. Yet the aftermath, elites who took over didn't go thru much change on management, just continue what left in colonial legacy to exploit estate workers.

[@Sickboyfriend]

So.. "meet the new boss, *something something* the old boss"

[@AJ-zv9tn]

@@Sickboyfriend ah yes

[@hughmungusbungusfungus4618]

Yeah, the proper way to go through something like this would be to break the company's assets up into smaller chunks and setup a number of smaller companies that would then compete. Also, repatriating all those migrant workers was probably also necessary.

[@danielch6662]

@@hughmungusbungusfungus4618 too late to repatriate anybody. Most have been here a hundred years. That's like repatriating Trump today because his grandparents came from Germany.

[@hughmungusbungusfungus4618]

@@danielch6662 I wasn't aware they kept the Indians there that long. Still, that sort of thing has been done before, like when the Japanese were expelled from Taiwan for instance.

[@pjacobsen1000]

As a Danish national, I had no idea Danish entrepreneurs had started plantations in Malaysia. But this video caused me to look into the history of United Plantations. Apparently a very innovative and even progressive company, it still thrives today and there are still Danish people working in management.

[@syafiqkamarulzaman357]

As a Malaysian, I too was surprised by this fact. Here in this country we often hear about Denmark when it comes to badminton (congrats to Viktor Axelsen), biscuits, football, and winter sporting. Little do we know about the plantation business activity. Good to know something new everyday.

[@pjacobsen1000]

@@syafiqkamarulzaman357 Ha ha, yes, I thought about what the Danish and Malaysian colleagues talk about during lunch break: Badminton!

[@CatnamedMittens]

Where do you learn anything about them?

[@Sondergarden]

Wherever the Dutch and British were colonizing, the Danes were not far behind. It actually works well for Denmark, because they got to profit very handsomely off of colonialism while skirting the vast majority of the negative press aimed at the larger counterpart nations. It really pays to be the junior partner

[@pjacobsen1000]

@@Sondergarden Thanks for the compliment.

[@ngjiherhn4034]

As a Malaysian interested in my country's history, the Guthrie Raid was a real turning point for the nation as we basically played the British's system and won at it too. Having all the plantations ceding ownership one after the other as a result, it was probably the most Malaysian thing for our government to pseudo-nationalise our industries while still keeping MNC confidence in the country, its honestly a bit understated how brilliant the Guthrie raid was. Also thanks for covering the Indian plantation workers as its true there's still systemic inequality for these Indians in rural areas to this day.

[@annoloki]

The "coolies", yeah you find them scattered all around the Pacific. We get to tell ourselves that we "ended slavery" because we eventually fought to stop the African slave trade, but very few here in Britain know how we simply replaced the trade of Africans with the trafficking of Indians. We're very familiar with the plight of African Americans due to the anti-American sentiment that began when they won independence from England (Empire's forget, but they never forgive) but trafficking Indians across the Pacific continued til 1913, their plight is unheard of. Unlike Africans, who had to be bought, Indians were part of the empire, so they could just be tricked into signing away their "freedom". Far more profitable. Very sad stories.

[@Banom7a]

@@annoloki and renamed them "indentured labour" but at the end of the day its almost the same thing

[@RichardLaurence]

As a Brit, I say “well done!”

[@guisampaio2008]

At least it wasn't immoral.

[@junaideej.k7634]

where can i go to learn more of malaysian history such as this?

[@blablabla65405]

One of the main architects for the dawn raid was the late tan sri khalid ibrahim, really savvy businessman and a great chief minister for selangor but got stab in the back by his own party leader in 2014. I have huge respect for the late khalid ibrahim but not nothing for the other guy.

[@jonathantan2469]

He was the Chief Minister of my state, and I say he would be the best one up to date. Especially when you compare him to the CM before him... who was quite corrupt...

[@danielch6662]

14:12 pic, named in caption, but not named in the narration. He was a good guy, and DSAI deserves to never be PM for betraying him. Serves him right that Azmin Ali would later stab him in the back as well. He saved up all that enormous pile of cash in the state gov's coffers, and just as it was nearly enough, they just couldn't help themselves. Anybody know what happened to all they money?

[@smaug.the.stupendous]

It was Tun M leadership

[@deltahunter2302]

National interest and politics is two different things. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@pokuda-man]

Jemin is the mastermind who got all fooled, he ask Nuar to dismiss Khalid for Wan Azizah but later promote himself to sultan. And then after win General Ellection , he stab both Madey n Anwar with disgraceful Sheraton Move , now Mahiaddin choose Sabri as successor he went missing, (Missing to plan next stabbing move) now left with no support n Trust from any malays. Jemin is the real Musuh dalam selimut in Malaysia, if he still win any seat in next GE , confirm there will backdoor goverment again. The Snake Master Jemin is the worst political figure in Malaysia, no vision and legacy, just Hungry for Power.

[@hitension7]

Correction: Sime is pronounced as “sai-m” as in “time”, not “si-me”

[@CatnamedMittens]

It really doesn't matter how it's pronounced as you understood the message.

[@danielch6662]

@@CatnamedMittens we pedants just can't help ourselves. And corrections improves everybody.

[@abhitron]

@@CatnamedMittens Going by that logic, you would continuously mispronounce someone's name as long as everyone else knew which person you were referring to.

[@hailyrizzo5428]

​@@CatnamedMittens It matters, Muttons

[@alfredmujahjimmy6500]

It's our National Day very soon on Wednesday and I would like to thank you for uploading this special video about Malaysia's takeover of a British company called Guthrie and all of these related to plantations in my native Malaysia.

[@NoneStar]

When you said raiding I assumed a coercive attack through force, they effectively just used market strategies to acquire assets. If anything this was an extremely gentlemanly way of going about acquiring resources back from people who literally used military force to acquire them from you to begin with. Glad they were able to get it back in this manner.

[@davidholder3207]

The British replaced the Portuguese and the Dutch from Malaysia by trade and knowing how to use the countries nobility. Just as they had done with India.

[@mariusj8542]

I mean, Respect to the Malaysians….Not just nationalization and taking over foreign assets by the military, but actually playing the game, well done!

[@syafsmith5085]

Never underestimate the determination of the Malays.

[@TheMan-xp4cb]

No nationalisation We bought the co. from them

[@FauziahAbdullah715]

But we still are shy and polite people yaaa..

[@chengmunwai]

14:08 - The man on the right (Tan Sri Khalid Ibrahim) is usually credited as leading the "Dawn Raid" in 1981. He passed away on 31st July 2022, 29 days before this video was uploaded.

[@zulimanismail1966]

The best MB of Selangor..no wonder terengganu now have excellent management as he is a model and take part in advice for terengganu administration..

[@Forrest_dev]

Truly appreciate the work you put into this channel. Thank you.

[@jasC1933]

Really appreciate what you did for yr channel. Profound n updated.👍

[@geneballay9590]

Great video. Having lived in both Indonesia and Malaysia, and elsewhere in SE Asia, I have always wondered about how the differences in prosperity arose. Your documentary is very informative. Thank you for the work, and sharing.

[@Natan0393]

As a Brazilian I would say we have sooo much to learn. We are doing the exact opposite from what Malaysia has done over these decades. We simply let the foreigners to take control over our natural resources, either directly by letting them explore throughout their enterprises, or indirectly by exchanging those natural resources for manufactured and technological goods, which we are not able to produce either, due to our lack of industry and technology investments over the centuries. When are we going to learn?

[@Coz131]

Malaysia isn't a shining example this day and age either.

[@gingerteddy618]

@@Coz131 look at the positive sides

[@Sarah-yg8kt]

@@Coz131 another self hating malaysian.

[@answerman9933]

No one solution works for every country.

[@mikolowiskamikolowiska4993]

Or you could use your resources instead of stealing I other ppl hard work and sactifice

[@MrWphilips]

Thank you for this illuminating history lesson. As a result I now have a positive understanding of Malaysian history, and respect for the successful results!

[@adamesd3699]

I just watched a KZbin video on the 1956 Suez Crisis and I think there is some similarity between Malaysia’s Guthrie raid and Egypt’s nationalization of the Suez Canal. (With the obvious difference that Malaysia didn’t get invaded by an angry Britain). Both were surprise actions by developing countries trying to regain control over their resources. In both situations the British owners got paid for their shares. And the result was similar in both situations. The Malaysians managed to run the plantation companies well and got the profits to the benefit of Malaysia. And the Egyptians (with Greek help) managed to run the Canal well and got the profits to the benefit of Egypt.

[@irone7050]

The Brits failed to defend Malaya from the Japanese during ww2 so it would be the malays who should be angry if the Brits still have the audacity to keep sucking money and resources from the colony

[@NotLikeWhatYouThink]

Yea british run away..when japanese colonized..

[@guppy719]

Well lets see for starters the Malay were close to the British mainly for security reasons. Both Communist forces and Indonesia threatened their sovereignty. Also you are describing a hostile take over which is probably why people still invested money in Malaysia afterword's its not like they just nationalized everything they bought it. also contributing the growth in GDP to buying an industry is a big stretch.

[@rashidahmad7830]

I just watched this video. I learnt some interesting facts. I am quite aware of the history of the plantation industry, having worked in Harrisons. As much as I admire the British, I am cognizant of how they exploited the resources and labour in the colonies of their Empire. I make this observation in the context of the recent passing of Queen Elizabeth II. The world has made many compliments of her. No doubt as a person she was admirable. However, she was part of a system and monarchy that earlier on grabbed land and resources around the world, while subjugating the local people in these lands. The British monarchy has never owned up to this fact and made amends for their misdeeds. The video narrated how Guthrie and Sime Darby resisted ceding control of their estates for a long time, leading PNB to conduct the dawn raid. The rest is history. In the aftermath of the negotiated takeover I benefited personally by gaining employment in Harrisons. It would not have been the case if it was still British owned. For this I am grateful. I am sad to note that while we obtained control of the British plantations in the 1980s, since then we have not treated the workers equitably by granting them fair wages.

[@user-cq2sx8hi2v]

India's Kohinoor "Diamond"

[@deltahunter2302]

We? We tu employer.. Estet la patut bayar gaji berpatutan.🤦🏻‍♂️

[@deltahunter2302]

@@user-cq2sx8hi2v Afrika said that it was theirs not India. 🤔

[@user-cq2sx8hi2v]

@Delta Hunter we can share,half each no prob.

[@JinFX]

South and South East Asia have a shared culture. The upper caste welcomes the colonizers as long as the lower caste does all the work.

[@zenith8972]

Product of Indianization .

[@seanwieland9763]

Because human networks are necessarily Pareto distributions, aka scale-free networks. Stable and scalable networks have to be power law distributed like that. Equalized / Gaussian bell-curve networks breed instability and collapse. It’s literally the complete opposite of what people who teach the Gini coefficient preach. Inequality is a feature not a bug. Equality leads to further unrest and then collapse.

[@rollinghippo2940]

@@seanwieland9763 agree, literally the same as animals food chain pyramid

[@jonahansen]

@@seanwieland9763 Well said. Political systems would do well to understand that there is an inherent distribution of peoples abilities and desires. Lack of outcome equality does not necessarily imply unfairness or exploitation.

[@gabbar51ngh]

@@zenith8972 Pareto principle is common everywhere.

[@readmeat4vegans829]

Despite the click-bait title (I admit there is an assumption I made, but I believe that assumption would be widespread) - this was a very fair and balanced, and in-dept treatment of the way Malaysia recovered their countries assets from their former colonial masters. Well done!

[@mohamedaboelenein7727]

This channel is grow by 1k every one to two days! Well deserved!

[@iginheo]

The most underappreciated KZbin channel put out another good one. Thanks

[@MoonLiteNite]

The ending of this video nailed it. People always cry that someone is getting paid "sooo little" or "below min wage" but, after time, those people work themselves up, and a new group of people are the "cheapest labor". And then the cycle repeats...

[@RN1441]

It's nice to see examples of these stories where the taken over assets are competently run rather than run into the ground. I am still of the impression that this is the exception rather than the rule, but it's the exceptions that are interesting.

[@yuglesstube]

This channel is always interesting.

[@alistairmcelwee7467]

Fascinating. So interesting that the Malay path to Independence was so mild & yet even still the Brits tried to deceive and to extract fortunes from what became Malaysia. Think how large the British Empire was, and then imagine Brits doing this in every country they colonized. Then, next time you walk around England and marvel at the lovely architecture etc., ask yourself, who suffered in a horrible position in a far off land so that Britain could like like this? As a colonial, and an Anglophile to a certain extent, I have to admit that my first degree was in the decolonization of the Brit & French Empires in the 40s thru 70s. I learnt how dreadfully my fellow Commonwealth subjects were treated. Pity we did not look at Malaysia.

[@thehumancanary131]

What!! Absolute B.S. The British fought a war in Malaysia to give them their independence - and built most of their infrastructure!! If it wasn't for the British - Malaya would have been a satellite communist state in S. E. Asia!!

[@niessin1483]

Well the Malay did take a look of the British Property at first , but the leader at that time father of independence Tunku Abdul Rahman would do anything necessary get independence from British even tho they know most of economic infrastructure still owned by them. Until Dr Mahathir launch a dawn raid to secure Malaysia economy . Edit : for 200 year under British Colonials the malay spesifically cannot admit themself undertaking other economy beside fishing and agriculture doesnt receive any pay and eat their daily caught.While other races such as Indian and Chinesse are able to create their own business and partaking most of British industry.

[@hassankhuzmawi2834]

@@niessin1483 447 Years of Colonial including Holland, UK, Portugese and Japanese

[@asmrlova]

@@niessin1483 Segregation by the colonizers (plural) left us with no choice. We can argue about this all day long but it'll only end up in circles.

[@marquis9074]

Brits MO has always been soft subjugation coupled with divide and conquer and economic exclusion of native works wonder in keeping native impoverished and rebellion at bay

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[@Mkoivuka]

I hope the success of your channel with 329k subs, is a sign that Europeans and Americans are more interested in Asia - and feel its development to be more important than in the past.

[@ernestbao3287]

very well done!!! Keep it up.

[@donbrashsux]

Excellent presentation of this history in Malaysia

[@ronaldhee6608]

A usual, great stuff! BTW it's Sime as in Lime.

[@thedoer]

Like how the report is unbiased, telling things as it is.

[@a11u45]

As someone who has a relative who used to work for Sime Darby, it's not pronounced as 'see-mer' instead, Sime rhymes with dime.

[@chinkayeok6117]

Well researched and the labor conditions remain true.

[@rnb250]

Fascinating, you have a very wide area of expertise.

[@raylopez99]

Fun fact: around 25 million tonnes of rubber are produced each year, of which 30 percent is natural. So natural rubber still rules, as it's more sticky and superior to synthetic rubber.

[@sshko101]

the real secret is in ideal mixture of both and some extra additives. Synthetic rubber is transparent and the natural one is brownish yellow. I even have one pair of shoes with high content of natural rubber, but thay are quite slippery on rubberised surfaces on children playgrounds. I even encountered at one point a book on all the characteristics of the different materials for shoe soles - it's actually quite complicated.

[@casparcoaster1936]

Really interesting story, my thanks!

[@khaleedairil1975]

one of the unbiased foreigner review on Malaysias history.

[@eggizgud]

Thanks for this. Maybe for the next one focusing on particular countries, you can get locals to help with pronunciations of certain terms and names. You did well here except for Sime Darby.

[@Dineshkumar-jf2hz]

Very informative

[@ahmadhijaz1631]

The man headed the raid recently passed away.

[@poovaneswaransupramaniam6706]

Wonderful video and am accurate depiction of the Malaysia historical past..and yes...the plight of Indian plantation workers are still not cared for till today

[@mukminlah4439]

Please do more about malaysia thanks 👍🏻🇲🇾

[@dougreid2351]

Grammar & pronunciation problems aside, I am subscribing. Well done. DOUGout

[@lzhhng]

The Malaysian history curriculum should include more of these content. Btw do you share any references that you used to make videos? That would be very helpful in making a source more credible especially if it cited good sources

[@TheRahsoft]

One of the aspects of the NEP was the bumi discount on housing ( paid for by the other non bumi homeowners). You were supposed to only apply it on your main property, but abuse of the system was rife. My wife( and her millionaire sister) were able to purchase multiple properties using this system... Corruption hasn't changed that much in Malaysia, unfortunately. They still have the term "coffee money"

[@tanjoy0205]

TLDR:Eating the Rich +Internal corruption/incompetence =Not a good time .

[@doughboyjr9418]

conflicting narrative from the japan video

[@butterdubs2267]

@@doughboyjr9418 it's a complex subject, what do you expect?

[@splintmeow4723]

Thank you ♥️

[@nexusyang4832]

Truth.

[@Chuck8541]

Yup. A tale as old as time…

[@emmanueldanielauthor]

Brilliant!

[@johnwright9372]

The Malaysians may have gained independence, only to exchange their colonial exploiters for domestic ones who set up a corrupt kleptocracy.

[@plantedlife]

U talking about Najib and that yacht Chinese guy who went missing? I forgot his name

[@IskandarRohadi]

We're throwing them one by one to jail currently.

[@zouminlandau6753]

@@IskandarRohadi Good riddance to all corrupt leaders.

[@Nedumgottil]

12:03 - Funny story, made a joke saying that he looks similar to the current CM of Kerala. Turns out Mahathir is part Malayali.

[@zaar3080]

Mahathir bin Mohamad bin Kutty

[@syafsmith5085]

Hence why Malay nationalists who felt betrayed by him called him “Mamak Kerala.” Which is hilarious.

[@zaar3080]

@@syafsmith5085 Malay+India=Mamak . But not sure till what generation as mamakness got dilute through generations lolz.

[@toreditahrin3717]

Mahathirs father was Kerala Indian and his mother was Malay.

[@Sarah-yg8kt]

@@toreditahrin3717 I think it was mahathir's grandfather who was mamak. Mamak is indian muslim, not india+malay

[@davidweissberg89]

Some said the British still own Malaysian assets. Which is why Malaysia growth is so slow n depends too much on foreign investors in order to grow

[@danielch6662]

10:53 "Sime" in Sime Darby is a single syllable. It's named after William Sime and Henry Darby. The name is pronounced the normal way an English speaker would.

[@jameswatt7249]

The Chinese should think about this when they buy massive amounts of farm land around the world.

[@yohaneschristianp]

Not only for Chinese, others too.

[@tommos1]

The Chinese that held those Malay land holdings were KMT elites. They're living in Taiwan now.

[@teoengchin]

Chinese businesses buy land based on willing-buyer-willing-seller. British colonized a country and gave themselves the land. Big difference

[@AJ-zv9tn]

@@yohaneschristianp china is the major people doing this

[@Kabodanki]

@@teoengchin Whataboutism at it finest, but the british is long gone, china is doing it nowadays. China have also illegal operations, having mines in countries without the authority consent, putting up debt trap (willing buyer and seller doesn't work here), fishing in other country waters, straight up slavery. This is happening today.

[@malithaw]

Bumiputra means sons of the land, rather than the soil(Boomi means land) but i guess the meaning is slightly deviated in malay. Still, it's pretty cool to see that Malaysians using still Sanskrit terms.

[@chickensoup9869]

Russians too.

[@clarkkent9727]

Indian influence back in the old day

[@meowiguess903]

Correct. When I heard he translated them to sons of the soil, it sounds so wrong. Oh well, English...

[@NotLikeWhatYouThink]

Its bumiputera..son of soil..putera/putra means prince..bumi actually not land..its actually refer to earth..land we called tanah in malay languanges..in english soil.Malay the only race refer land and sea as their country..previously we followed hinduism our dna show we not indian..austronesian and austroasiatik..malay was natives..while indian in malaysia consider non natives..british brought to malaya..indian population in malaysia only little..while in indonesia philiphines,brunei,vietnam where this natives live..also rare to find indian😁

[@davidwilkie9551]

Kind of a standard picture of Pirate Empires, even the ones before the histories so nicely elaborated in this review. Really interesting to compare the Indian workers to Convicts and other imports to the Australian Colonies.., or any Colonisation for that matter. Thanks for the info.

[@hafizizawawi8833]

Unlike surrounding ASEAN countries who nationalize (read:forcefully take over) assets, lands etc belong to previous colonist, Malaya thru Alliance Party(Parti Perikatan) preferred to work with the Brits and other foreign people. The Malay even granted the Chinese & Indian full citizenship and not asking the Brits to send them back to their original country!. 13 May 1963 really is the turning point in Malaya history when the Government decided that the origin people of the land (aka Bumiputera/Malay) should have bigger economic participation and hold more economic percentages. New Economic Policy(1971) targeted 30% Bumiputera equity holding by 1990s. Just imagine the original people of the land only target 30% of the total equity and not 100%!. Back to the topics, the Dawn Raid showed that Malay led administration always tried to negotiate with the Brits but they don't want to collaborate thus Tun Dr Mahathir was forced to execute the Dawn Raid plan. If the plan did not materialized, Malaysia will not become economically prosperous like now.

[@000n6]

Wasn’t accepting immigrants one of the conditions when they did the discussion to achieve independence? The Brits proposed the idea bcs they were broke at that time, don’t have the money to send them back and wasn’t even thinking of cleaning up the issue they will bring. ‘Deal with them yourself’. So technically we were literally forced to accept them. Being the nice tolerating person the locals are and longing independence for 400+ years.. we accept them anyway.. with conditions. Well I think everyone knows what those conditions are just whether you want to acknowledge it or not. The result of that… well I wouldn’t say it’s all bad.. but it wasn’t good either. A lot of social, political and economical issues stemming from this haven’t been resolved.

[@hafizizawawi8833]

@@000n6 immigration issue is one of the issue press upon the Malaya's leader due to the Brits being broke. IF, the Malay insist on the Brits taking care of it and wait out like Brunei did, Malaya might still gained independence. Brunei did gained independence in 1984. Due to China Closed Door(communism) policy and India-Pakistan partition issue, i believe what already happen in Malaya at that time, might be for the best.

[@asmrlova]

Brits enforced segregation to control the multi ethnics/races in Malaya and then had the audacity to use 'unity' as a requirement to award independence.

[@MarkWongUSA]

As a Malaysian, I can relate

[@jaimeortega4940]

Just signed up thanks.

[@smaug.the.stupendous]

Malaysian here. This is a well researched article. I remember how livid the iron lady was when she got outplayed by Dr. M.

[@sayanchx]

Potential topics: Larsen & Toubro, Tata Group, industrial & investment policies during colonial and WW2 especially guaranteed investor returns

[@djemba]

Thank you for the explanation. Lots of younger generation doesnt even understand why things were this way. They make a conclusion that this is because our predecessor are racist thats why theres inequality with the economic policy. Well, it was bias from the start and in order to make it equal, it had to be tipped the other way. Unfortunately, the balance still hardly achieved to this day. The Malays are still waaayy behind, only expect subsidies from the government and asking for bribery.

[@000n6]

That’s what you get when you’ve been colonised for 400+ years. Hard to blame them though. They lost everything. A kingdom, freedom, peace, prosperity. If you put yourself in their shoes and try to understand, it makes sense why they’re the way they are. Also why they’re very protective of their culture, religion and status because that’s all that remains from the past. For people who have everything taken away from them, it’s hard to view things in the same light. They need time to build themselves and find their way around again. It’s important they do because they are the majority after all. They prosper, the country prospers.

[@deltahunter2302]

@@k-force8325 racist!

[@EldenLord1142]

65 years still the same cock story when will the malay people become economically independent without special rights

[@cyzcyt]

I am thoroughly disappointed with how the Chinese business and political leaders handled the political situation in the 70s. It was their self serving actions and pride that led to the worsening of the class gap into a racial economic political struggle. They let our own people down They ineffectively managed the situation and let the second generation of politicians spread racially inflaming rhetoric . When in fact only the few rich families and business owners are the ones who are the real rich. Those guys have made their money and have left the country. The rest of us are no better than the average working class. Working in the cities for pittance. Barely even able to pay rent. Yet we let them have their affirmative action policies. Further polarizing the divide of the urban and rural, the wealthy property owners and the working class into a racial issue that isn't reflective of the real situation. Decades later, today. We are still as unintegrated as ever. Even though millions of the people have left their rural homes to gather wealth in urban centers. Millions of people are still stuck in their own enclaves, uninterested in integration August is the month of celebration for the country's independence. It's just disappointing that the real people who benefitted from all this are the real crooks

[@fartingfury]

As a frequent Western visitor to Malaysia, I'm always struck by how poor most Malays I see are, despite half a century of some incredibly forceful affirmative action, to the point that I'd actually call it racism against other races. It seems that no matter who the ruling classes in Malaysia are, they somehow manage to keep most of the wealth to themselves ...

[@calvyncraven1141]

@@fartingfury in reality, the affirmative actions mostly only benefit the Malays connected to power. The rest get some handouts (placement quota for higher education and government jobs) and false pride knowing that their leaders got rich and powerful

[@jonathantan2469]

@@fartingfury The problem was the NEP focused on race rather than class & economic standing. The benefits flowed mostly to the political & economic elite (Malay royals, Malay ruling-coalition politicians, Chinese business elite & ruling-coalition aligned politicians, and a few Indian upper caste elites). For the majority of the poor, they got some small slices of the pie. The Indian working class got even less & to this day are disproportionately affected by poverty. As for the aboriginal indigenous Orang Asli, they probably got the least... and in fact, much of their forested ancestral lands were taken away by the plantation companies... including by some of those mentioned in this video... Had the NEP prioritized class & economic standing, the poor Malays and Indians would have still benefitted.... with a larger share.

[@fartingfury]

@@jonathantan2469 Sounds about right. And with less stark inequality, we might see less racial tension... Edit: Spelling of "racial"

[@llcx7319]

What exactly have the Chinese business and political leaders done in the 70s?

[@bagatis1]

We also have to highlight the fact that Malaysia didn't follow the path of Indonesia in nationalising our assets because the Brits effectively defanged the socialist faction in then pre-independence Malaya. Try finding out about Ibrahim Yaakob of Kesatuan Melayu Muda and V kanapathy Pillay. But i also agree it was good move because capitalism allowed Malaysia to pull ahead of other former colonised countries faster especially when compared to Indonesia or India.

[@domiworks1]

Correction please: Indonesia gained its independence in 1945 and not 1949. Interesting video by the way.

[@mariaannainditahernawati7132]

yah menurut kita thn 1945 tapi menurut org luar indonesia sah thn 1949 berdasarkan perundingan antara pbb, indonesia dan belanda yg merasa sdh bangun aset begitu byk dan hrs mengambil alih voc yg bangkrut pelabuhan, jalan raya, jalur kereta, dam, benteng dan bangunan yg bahkan ada di daerah yg jauh dari pelabuhan aka pedalaman cmiiw

[@singolodoyo-bs3wb]

1945 independence day of Indonesia 1948 recognition by the Colonist Dutch

[@hasfian7980]

Secara de facto berbeda dgn de jure....

[@captainmee3469]

for me as bumiputra people... it like victory to us... imaging that u become slave at your land , when economy in that land bumiputra / malay just own 2.4 / 3 % .... imaging how poor we are before

[@ozzo870]

This channel would be better, more reliable, and intellectually honest if youd put the sources you used in the video description.

[@calvyncraven1141]

Watch Dawn Raid. Its a movie produced by Malaysians

[@ucx-s9040]

@@calvyncraven1141 Why would I watch something made by low IQ people, in an industry which is funded by the low IQ people in the government who get voted in by the low IQ population

[@albertwong1919]

U need to give credit to Mahathir for he was the driving force behind the NEP, he ruled Malaysia for 24+ years. Maybe u can shed some light on whether it was good for Malaysia or not but after he left Malaysia leaders look lost and clueless at times.

[@siwi666]

wow, dense with information.

[@kesatria_gelap]

Just curious Which is biggest either felda or sime darby.

[@iandaniel1748]

Best add next subject Subah 😊

[@zedono1391]

The first prime minister, Tunku Abdul Rahman, needed the British to help combat the communist and Malaya was not only a young country but a very poor one too. He wouldn't dare to anger the British and knew very well, without British help, the Indonesians under Soekarno would have invaded Malaya easily. Soekarno took over Sumateran kingdoms by murdering all the Sultans or threatening them to give up their thrones and kingdoms. Indonesians went on to conquer West Papua and Timor Leste.

[@EdGee89]

"Sime" in "Sime Darby" rhymes with "thymes". That was the first time I've heard it was pronounced that way.

[@DarrenLeong]

Good informativr video, well done. However as a Malaysian I must say that Sime is pronounce like lime and not si-mee.

[@marvin19966]

Hey Jon, could you do a video on China's plans for moving manufacturing to Africa, like the Made in Africa Initiative? Great vids btw, this one included

[@yohaneschristianp]

Which part of Africa? Rwanda perhaps?

[@marvin19966]

@@yohaneschristianp I would guess parts of Africa with good access to marine infrastructure, a large amount of natural resources, relatively stable society and young population. If you look at the Initiative's website, you'll see examples in Rwanda and Djibouti, so good thinking on that.

[@AQuietNight]

The fine print should be included.

[@philoslother4602]

17:12, your graph shows a 25%-30% decline in real wages, This basically means that the British treated the Malaysian plantation workers better than Malaysians treat their own kind

[@mrsith1402]

Like the way the Malaysians handled this

[@wdsp69]

Interesting history

[@JohnnieWalkerGreen]

(5:48) That was a picture on 17 Aug 1945. I am just wondering what your history resources are. 😱😱🤦‍♀🤦‍♀🤔🤔

[@silvarajoomuniandy4316]

And now another history on the move

[@darmarajumunusamy4037]

What one know about Bangsar.?. infact this modern township in the early 1960 's was owned by Socfin group ..

[@resons]

while the workers got the shaft under both of them...

[@danfairfw]

And then there was Joe Lo raiding the Malaysian kitty.

[@jonathantan2469]

His partner in crime was the Malaysian Prime Minister, who recently went to jail for corruption.

[@danfairfw]

@@jonathantan2469 as Joe is still riding Lo rumored somewhere in China. I read "The Billion Dollar Whale" and was quite impressed when Jordan Belfort of "The Wolf of Wall Street" would not partake in partying with him because he thought he was a scammer.

[@NSS7]

Relationship between Malaysia and UK is really bad at one point government promote Buy British Last campaign and introduce Look To East policy to emulate and encourage investor from Japan (at the time 2nd largest economy).

[@Donthaveacowbra]

Long story short, violent overthrow of entrenched power just trades one master for another. For modern purposes simply taxing the rich more would be a superior strategy along with well managed government and accountability but eh,

[@pfeilspitze]

If "well managed government and accountability" was common, we wouldn't need this channel...

[@rollinghippo2940]

Taxing the rich is a slap to the country because they are smart enough to avoid or retaliate, sad fact but the poor will always be the one to be exploited

[@sotch2271]

Using multiple master is one way to get away from that

[@Kabodanki]

@@sotch2271 Etienne de la boetie wrote a book called discourse of the voluntary serviture, which talk about that.

[@john_doe_not_found]

TLDR: The worker on the bottom always gets the shaft.

[@zamanreds]

We stayed close with the British after our independence due to economic and military interests. Need the British pounds to run the country and their soldiers to fight the enemies while our own gets educated and trained.

[@syedadeelhussain2691]

I have lived in Malaysia. Three dominant races on its landscape are not properly integrated. The Indians live in the rural plantation areas, the Malays in their kampongs, and the Chinese in the cities, making them the most cosmopolitan, well-educated and outward-looking western-minded race, which leads the Malaysian economy. After Mahathir came into power, the NEP became more aggressive and the redistribution of wealth began on a long-term footing. Malays aka Bumiputras got cars, bank loans, interest-free loans, lucrative business partnerships, and what not to improve their standard of living. That did improve equality on paper, but, in reality, the Bumiputras remained inefficient, lazy and lacked entrepreneurial talent like the Chinese. Even DR M himself admitted his failure to change Malay attitudes. I guess Malaysia is a classic case study for Behavioural Economists.

[@mreddysmarkhenzy6257]

The lesson you can get from this story was 1) Don't being a THIEF as British that robbed and stealing other people asset. 2) If other country stealing or robbed any of your country asset, what do your feel? The Malaysian's Leaders did an absolutely perfect moved to take back what's was robbed. #KARMA

[@alphaomega3836]

Its just like giving the safe box key to the robbers to take care.

[@user-cx9nc4pj8w]

how did the British steal assets from Malaysia? They turned unproductive land into profitable plantations and extracted resources from the ground that would otherwise have been left sleeping. Not to mention that Malaysia has kept its monarch all the way till today, including under British rule, so Malaysia was not just invaded and oppressedd. But British bad, and Chinese bad, and America bad is far easier to understand for those who do not think, and only see the results and not the work that went into those results.

[@allencoffland1685]

never knew the workers were divided along race like that. thanks

[@blackrx89]

British infamous divide and conquer system. despite being independence 65 years ago, we still have this system lingering around.

[@chickensoup9869]

The locals ain't gonna help the occupiers rob themselves so they gotta seek workers elsewhere.

[@bowlampar]

The goal of raiding the rich foreign plantation owners by Malaysian government is not to make every Malaysian benefit from it except to keep the Malay political elite and the largest political party in power in perpetuity especially among Malayan largest electorate group.

[@HaHaBIah]

Thinking about the stereotypes of: Chinese owning the businesses, Malays as fishers and government workers, Indigenous peoples (East Malaysia) as farmers. This is from the perspective of a middle class Chinese family though so I wonder what the stereotype is like elsewhere.

[@leezhieng]

It's even written like this in the school text books.

[@blackrx89]

if you have life in Malaysia that long, you should know in the history textbook that says this condition; it's call divide and conquer, in which British are expertly so. after taking over the administration (threatening to invade, false flag, bribing, siding with ruling opposition etc), British sought to control the mass they have brought by dividing each race into different sector in which survive to this day, which the only difference is that the current ruling government are no more different than the British themselves

[@gingerteddy618]

It was describing the old times, happened during the colonial era and early years after independence.

[@plantedlife]

I feel like the government is trying to preserve the stereotype of Bumiputra = farmers. I had a super hard time getting into an agriculture course as a Chinese Malaysian due to it being 90% reserved for Bumiputra and the course I got is probably Agribusiness 😑. Oh well, if they want to plant that much, they can plant. Leave to selling to me, since that's the message I'm getting. The farmer is not always the land owner anyways 😤. Geram betul

[@zouminlandau6753]

@@plantedlife Geram betul 🤗. Sabar, sabar.

[@wenderis]

5:51 1945! Indonesia gained its independence in 1945. Everyone recognized this date nowadays, unless you're Dutch.

[@johnwright9372]

You omit to mention that the Malaysian state would gave been overthrown by Maoist guerrillas or Sukarno's expansionist aggression but for extensive British military support in the 50s and 60s.

[@midnightsun1728]

Marxist not Maoist. Look up the Wikipedia entry on Rashid Maidin. He was even in London for the Communist Party's meetings. Mao spoke no English whatsoever.

[@ganjendranjayabalan7798]

We indian men will never give up to build our wealth..... Eventhough in this generation we become poor but as long as we still alive we will keep fighting, working and learning in any field and shows the world our true potential and our next generation that we can be wealthy.......We will never stop for success......

[@fungo6631]

But when it comes to building toilets, you DO give up.

[@vikeniswaranpathma8524]

@@fungo6631 agreed 😁👍

[@buckrogers5331]

The "Sime" in Sime Darby is not pronounced as "sim-mer"/ It is one syllable rhyming with "crime".

[@TheKevMaster]

You've done your homework fairly well. Sime is pronounced like Time but with an S.

[@RenegadeRanga]

Serious irony in how this video ended.