After New Zealand I criticised the middle order and George rubbished me. Have to say I haven't changed my mind: the middle order is VERY weak since Morgan retired, we have a collection of pinch-hitting number 7s in Buttler, Livingstone, Ali, Curran, Woakes - none of whom can consistently build an innings if they're in early on. In 21 ODIs since Morgan retired we have been bowled out 10 times. That is poor.
@thebaldmanwithlonghair647010 ай бұрын
Buttler averages in the 40s at a strike rate of 120. If he's a pinch hitting number 7 then Maxwell is a number 11. So adding Jos in is just silly and probably undermines the point. I generally agree that England have an issue with Livingstone and Curran batting a spot too high. Yet the bowling has been too poor to justify going with 6 batters and 5 bowlers.
@RBenjo2110 ай бұрын
@@thebaldmanwithlonghair6470 Since Morgan retired England average 23 in the #6 position and 21 at #7. Of the teams at this World Cup, that’s right down the bottom above only Afghanistan.
@thebaldmanwithlonghair647010 ай бұрын
@@RBenjo21 In the same period you mention Buttler averages way over 50 at a SR way over 100. He's just been batting at 5. I'm not arguing England's lower middle order isn't an issue. As written Livi is too high at 6, Curran too high at 7 and Mo hasn't consistently scored ODI runs in forever. Definitely an issue. Grouping Buttler into that as, "a pinch-hitting number 7", is ludicrous though. He's one the best white ball batters ever. Potentially England's best ever ODI player. That was what George argued when answering the question previously and it remains true. You're taking a fair argument, i.e. the lower middle order being weak, but stretching it to a silly degree by including Buttler when that's clearly false.
@selena759610 ай бұрын
@@thebaldmanwithlonghair6470Flintoff is England's best odi player not buttler. Freddie doesn't get the credit he deserves as odi cricketer
@anshulsaxena493110 ай бұрын
@@selena7596yes butler may not be the best odi player for eng but he is their best in t20s ever and is pretty good in odis as well
@sanjayshetty153310 ай бұрын
When Morgan was the captain top 4 was solid, now except malan others r are not consistent. So that puts extra pressure on English no 5 to no 7
@Riuytfhjklf463410 ай бұрын
Lol! Did they stopped the series after South Africa game
@Leo-sk3qc10 ай бұрын
England were under cooked, and overdone. 😂
@andilencapai29510 ай бұрын
Cricket won ....it will grow more globally....it reminds me of that upsetter where Cameroon beat Argentina in the Italia 90 opener... ⚽
@kartikkantheti569010 ай бұрын
Not taking anything from this win but one odd upset doesn't make cricket moving globally. It will only show improvement if there are new teams winning consistently. Right now thats not happening. On the contrary good teams in the past are fading away i.e Sri Lanka , west Indies , bangladesh
@glennkeppel983610 ай бұрын
But the English won the moral victory.
@UmpireStrikesBack10 ай бұрын
They must be trying to "Save cricket" or maybe it had something to do with the "Spirit of cricket"
@ray.shoesmith10 ай бұрын
Lucky it wasn't played at Lord's, the Afghans would have pelted with Pims for obviously cheating
@williamjt3110 ай бұрын
Wonder who it was that said England’s bowling was going to be a problem?
@bananabrooks383610 ай бұрын
Yes, l heard that.Tms WC preview l think. Curran and Woakes wayward. Afghans were hungrier and out played Eng in most depts. A shocker indeed.
@davdt43710 ай бұрын
Me. It was me.
@danielburnett720810 ай бұрын
Sometimes the fact is that they didn't play very well. No need to look at selection, tactics etc. Stop giving them an excuse, they just werent good enough, end of
@monarkjain61310 ай бұрын
Embarrasing statement to make at 4.40. You want to get interviews and information and in return provide protection to coaches/players from criticism. Says it all really. I mean we all knew but still embarrassing what journalism has become. Glorified PR agencies.
@ray.shoesmith10 ай бұрын
This isn't journalism, it's just two punters on youtube who know as much about cricket as two random pissheads at the pub.