I bet everyone in the crowd knew the point Cliff was making by the end except this ONE dude.. 🤦🏻♂️
@rw34522 жыл бұрын
He didn’t want to think, he just came to speak.
@dogelife79012 жыл бұрын
His brain knew, but his heart was hardened.
@elizabethshaw7342 жыл бұрын
@@rw3452 he might as well be an ant in an ant farm if he's living because he's alive.
@rw34522 жыл бұрын
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 how does that follow? Who mentioned being superior? People seem to pointing out what was said or view points not understood.
@Yue4me2 жыл бұрын
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 " I love how Christians love to feel superior and still call themselves Christians" b r u h . " well to everyone that claims they have it figured out " B r u h. " and people not using their brains is the reason people don't believe in their thing " B R u H. so many assumption and generalizing there. scary.
@darthhobbit692 жыл бұрын
I was an atheist up until I turned 44. Bad mouthed Christians and lived a life of drinking and sex with whoever I wanted to. Then I became a follower of Christ after going to visit my Christian friend, although she hadn't told me she was a Christian when we became friends. Since then, I've seen God work in my life, give me a peace that I've always wanted and have prayers answered. He really does change your life and your way of looking at life. I never thought I would have opened my heart and mind to know God but it has been the best decision of my life. It's not an easy life I've led but having that personal relationship with Him, I know that He will make it easier to deal with.
@paulwilfridhunt2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations
@saintpaulofyoutube44162 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the testimony..I too am a former atheist (among other things) . For me it was a case of the old cliche "once you see it... you can't unsee it "
@Jonas-gl9ke2 жыл бұрын
It is also possible that it was the structure Christianity provides that improved your life. Converting to Islam, Judaism, Hinduism or Jainism may have similarly improved your life. How would you tell the difference?
@bryandavidson94712 жыл бұрын
Amen...God bless you..God is good
@paulwilfridhunt2 жыл бұрын
@@Jonas-gl9ke I reluctantly became a Christian, not to obtain any benefits, I didn’t know there were any, but instead I did it to please God, although in the end He had push me into it. I never actually realised that this was the life I wanted. However the major benefits I obtained, such as gaining peace, resulted not from joining some club. I began to inexplicably change on the inside. I looked the same on the outside but inwardly I was turning into a new creature. And the complete recognition that this was the work of God, was such a confirmation to me, that I came under great conviction, of the reality of the intervention of God into my life. So much so that I became a very zealous new Christian. Belonging to any good club or religion has the potential to somewhat improve the life of its members. But the new life of the born again believer, is such, that it cannot be compared to anything else.
@NewCreationInChrist8962 жыл бұрын
1 Peter 3:15 “But in your hearts sanctify Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give a defense to everyone who asks you the reason for the hope that is in you. But respond with gentleness and respect,”
@paulhildmann83922 жыл бұрын
I liked the story about the friend from Harvard who actually admitted he didn't want to accept Jesus as his savior because it would change his life. I think that might be an issue for a whole lot of people. If you believe that Jesus is in fact God and died on a cross for your sins, what are you do with that knowledge? I appreciate people like Cliffe who have the gift of evangelism. These videos are very stimulating, thank you!
@nikokapanen822 жыл бұрын
Do you know that gnomes belongs to the rebellious world?
@barryallen87532 жыл бұрын
Is fear
@gsquat2 жыл бұрын
So few are willing to admit that this is the case for them as well, though. So few in this world are willing to be honest, period. Even most who call themselves "Christian".
@youbloodybloodworktimejasper2 жыл бұрын
When I was 28, I gained that knowledge, took that knowledge and lost a lot of friends and family respect over it. but I live for Jesus. I gave up so much. I love him
@EveryThingIsFake-m72 жыл бұрын
I doubt it will change his life. People keep saying jesus can change life. Havent change nothing about me.
@thunderx30052 жыл бұрын
This is your sign God wants a relationship with you amen 🙏🏾
@briendoyle46802 жыл бұрын
hahaha...
@paulwilfridhunt2 жыл бұрын
We are not judge and jury, especially as we remember the unbelievers that we used to be. However like Paul the apostle, we too can be thinkers, can’t we. The young man with the handsome ears and the red and white T-shirt said he lost his faith. Will he ever regain it? Time will tell. But currently he is snared by atheism. If God knows that he can be converted then God will see to it. But if he goes all the way to the grave as an unconverted soul, it’ll be because God didn’t intervene. And without God’s intervention theres no conversion. However God will only convert those who have that unknown desire, to be converted. Paul had this desire but was unaware of it. Therefore we give everyone a fair shake, don’t we. Why? Because we don’t know who is who. We don’t know who God has chosen.
@thunderx30052 жыл бұрын
@@paulwilfridhunt Bro you can’t loose your faith, Hebrews 6:4-6 4 It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened,(A) who have tasted the heavenly gift,(B) who have shared in the Holy Spirit,(C) 5 who have tasted the goodness(D) of the word of God(E) and the powers of the coming age 6 and who have fallen[a] away, to be brought back to repentance.(F) To their loss they are crucifying the Son of God(G) all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.
@paulwilfridhunt2 жыл бұрын
@@thunderx3005 perhaps you’ve got a point
@thunderx30052 жыл бұрын
@@paulwilfridhunt once saved always saved amen 🙏🏾
@thunderx30052 жыл бұрын
Jesus Saves, John 3:16 amen 🙏🏾
@barryallen87532 жыл бұрын
Hallelujah
@chrisdurant46272 жыл бұрын
He who does.Gods will.lives.forever, you.work for.salvation,,,
@thattimestampguy2 жыл бұрын
0:49 My Purpose comes from Myself I'm Living because I'm Alive 2:59 Motivated to keep living? Why would I ever consider suicide? 3:28 I can't force myself to believe in a God 5:15 Ok, tell me why you live? 5:55 "To Make This World A Better Place." you open up a home for many Evils sir 7:54 Who defines "Better"? 8:46 Evidence changes my mind 9:16 Before I believe, I need Evidence 9:52 Job - Money/Stock Value - Happy Life Party Party Party - Drugs Sex Pleasure Stimulation Whatever I Want 11:03 God > Hedonism 14:53 I don't need God to fill my decisions 16:48 I can't make myself believe in God, It Doesn't Make Sense 23:18 I concede Historical Accuracy, but I don't think the Bible should be a basis for Morality
@adamcobb78922 жыл бұрын
Its cool how cliffe handles himself while talking to this dude. I was face palming myself alot while listening to him. Cliffe is explaining this extremely well and he still does not get it
@D1sc0rd-2 жыл бұрын
It always feels like Cliffe is giving 15 year old me a stern talking to, the exact kind of talk I needed at the time but never got 😅
@adamcobb78922 жыл бұрын
@@D1sc0rd- i can not agree more. I ignored the fact i knew God existed wgen i was younger and thinking back its exactly what his friend stated; because i wanted to do what i wanted. How God shook me throughout my life, i can only be thankful to our Lord. Hes given me so many "signs" and it took a while for me to understand he is above ALL. His grace and patience. Hope alls well.
@BigIdeaSeeker2 жыл бұрын
@@D1sc0rd- Cliffe uses a lot of rhetorical devices to elicit that feeling in you. I thought it ironic when he talked about manipulation because he is constantly manipulating the conversation and his audience. Seriously, the guy is amazingly disingenuous.
@kevinstamper97962 жыл бұрын
And how does these young ppl expect to make this world better when he is only focused on himself?
@BigIdeaSeeker2 жыл бұрын
@@kevinstamper9796 clearly in a manner beyond your comprehension.
@thesherpadog092 жыл бұрын
Brother Cliffe -- You are a DAWG! Thank you for these life changing videos/testimonials to the power of truth in Jesus. Glory to God!
@kevinmcrae23902 жыл бұрын
I’m not good at debating and intellectual debate, but I’m amazed in your ability! You are one out there defending our lord Jesus amongst tough criticism. Thank you Cliff🙏🏻
@Mikes-Code2 жыл бұрын
"If God exists there should be observable evidance..." yes..the world in front of you. If you mean seeing God, then no, God is not a part of this universe, He created it. He is external. He is a Spirit.
@theoskeptomai25352 жыл бұрын
How did you determine this god you've mentioned created the universe? Describe the data you analyzed and the methodolgies you employed to reach such a conclusion.
@Mikes-Code2 жыл бұрын
@@theoskeptomai2535 That is not something to start elaborating on a youtube comment. There is enough evidence for God, yet no evidance against God. So the math is simple. And some things about God dont require only analyzing. You need Him to reach you on a personal level. You need to strip your pride, and approch him with humility.
@barryallen87532 жыл бұрын
His GOD
@sadiebarnes42912 жыл бұрын
@@theoskeptomai2535 the only possible reasoning for all things and all time would be a creator who stands outside of time. Something can never be made from nothing. This is the only option. Intelligent design is the only way we could be here. A bomb of matter that was made by nothing did not blow up on its own accord to create such intricate complex work so that the sun is perfectly close enough for us to experience the ripening of tomatoes and yet far enough away so the human race won’t literally burn alive. It’s just logical and that’s all I will say because those who don’t want to believe won’t believe. Mostly because If you do accept that he is real it would be absurd not to live for him in accordance to what he says. Many would rather preserve their comfy lives on earth than preserve a comfy life after death.
@Your_Daily_Scroll Жыл бұрын
@@theoskeptomai2535how do you explain the big bang
@bofletcher444 Жыл бұрын
This is one of the best videos on the channel I have seen yet and I’ve watched a lot.
@jkm93322 жыл бұрын
Good to see Cliff educating the children.
@jessebryant92332 жыл бұрын
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 How about you tell us about your worldview and then give us good reasons for why you believe whatever it is that you do? You're not on the spot-take as much time as you need. Personally, I tip my hat to anyone who does open-air anything and permits folks to ask whatever questions they have. Takes guts. Do you have guts?
@jessebryant92332 жыл бұрын
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 No, you are unable to talk about your position because you don't know what it is or why. You're faith is faith is blind, deaf, and literally dumb. You can't even begin to describe your worldview-and if you try, you will only embarrass yourself. Yeah, you best move along!
@txbill25122 жыл бұрын
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 Yet you made a comment in the comments section of KZbin. Irony much?
@txbill25122 жыл бұрын
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 Again...the irony. Self awareness not your strong suit I see. Carry on.
@jessebryant92332 жыл бұрын
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 So you can't define your own worldview or give good reasons for it-but can mischaracterize and mock the position of others? Hey, you bluffed, I called. 'Nuff said? (Proverbs 26:4-5) yeah, told you that you were shooting blanks! Even in Russian-Roulette, they put one shell in the chamber! 🤣
@jrc99us2 жыл бұрын
When anyone claims that all morality is subjective I always ask, "Well who are you to say I'm wrong? If morality is subjective you cannot intellectually tell me that I am wrong, or anyone, ever!"
@bonnie43uk2 жыл бұрын
great question jrc, i sure we've chatted before, is Christianity completely agreed on what is moral and what is not moral.. or are there disagreements about moral issues within Christianity?
@saintpaulofyoutube44162 жыл бұрын
Red herring alert^^^^^
@bonnie43uk2 жыл бұрын
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 it's certainly not a red herring, Christianity is hugely divided on various moral issues. It would be good to get jrc99us's view on what he regards as an objective moral.. is it objectively immoral to lie?, or is it very much dependent upon individual circumstances and situations.. and even then... people will still have completely different views, .. so, it does seem as though it's subjective to me. .. in that, we all have to use our own minds to determine the rightness or wrongness of a moral situation.
@cameroneagle43702 жыл бұрын
@@bonnie43uk always twisting and dodging peoples points....lame, weak
@cameroneagle43702 жыл бұрын
@@bonnie43uk christianity is not hugely divided , the bible is clear, people who sin and claim to be christian are not following the bible , thus not christian....
@dualldamage56932 жыл бұрын
Cliff, I appreciate how you kept on the topic of Jesus when speaking to the Muslim who says that the Bible is possibly corrupted and you could have told him that many portions of the Quran have been taken out and changed but you showed much grace in not debunking his beliefs.
@garyd2502 жыл бұрын
It is amazing how people lack in the understanding of the existance of God. All you have to do to believe in the existence of God is try to make something God made. Try to make dirt, or a tree. Try to make a fish, or any animal for that matter. Make something from nothing? What about the air that you breathe? 🤔 There are billions of stars, make one of those.. God doesn't need anyone to convince him that he exists. If you can't look around and see his existence in everything, you need read your Bible and prove your irrational Intel. ✌
@garyd2502 жыл бұрын
Well Chris, The fool says in his heart, there is no God. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eaKuk5-pp7N2hdE
@Bono2uu2 жыл бұрын
Love your work brother. Hope to do this one day
@annagattellari852 жыл бұрын
I prae foryou David God bi wethiyou Amen
@binoyandpinay7777 ай бұрын
Some folks say that he's manipulating. I disagree. He is constantly challenging these students to think, consider evidence, compare and come to an conclusion. Pretty much im sure what many college professors do; and Cliffe is not getting paid for it. But colleges are happy to take your money. Lord thank you for the gift you have given Cliffe, so many seeds are being planted and you will watch over your Word to perform it and it will accomplish what you set it out zo do and not come back to you void.
@zoomkaboom12 жыл бұрын
Actually , werent the dead sea scrolls confirmation that the old testament WASNT changed or had stuff added to it? Because after they found and examined the dead sea scrolls and compared it to our modern Bibles of the old testament, they were like 99 percent identical. Further solidifying the claim that no one messed or add text to the modern Bible.
@ExperienceEric2 жыл бұрын
That is absolutely true. The dead sea scrolls proved the OT was not changed to fit the NT after the fact. The OT lays out some incredibly specific prophecies about when Jesus would be born, what HE would do, What he would preach, how he would be betrayed and crucified, WHO would crucify Him and WHO would destroyed Israel after the crucifixion. Just as one example the OT predicted ROME would follow Greece, and ROME would crucify Jesus, and ROME would destroy Israel after the crucifixion. This was written centuries before the birth of Christ are the rise of the Roman Empire. It even predicted Rome would have 2 "legs" to its empire, which it did. Eastern and western Rome, as well as Pagan Rome and "Christian" Rome.
@tonysatie22912 жыл бұрын
Continue educating these children Cliff.
@davidplummer2473 Жыл бұрын
Like many, many others, this kid talks about his purpose being to 'make the world a better place' but when pressed to define 'better', he retreats to defining it as making his own life better according to some vague subjective standard. I would have asked him: If your standard for making your own life better comes into direct conflict with some other guy's standard for making his life better, then in the absence of a transcendent moral code that would have to be of divine origin, how do you resolve this conflict other than by who wins the war?
@truthwithluke35502 жыл бұрын
Man, us humans really hold on to our pride. We never wanna be proven wrong. We gotta be more open to learn man.
@stevewyche52322 жыл бұрын
Cliffe says "according to Camus" but that wasn't the debate and apparently not how the kid felt. The kid answered you Cliffe, he said "Why WOULD I commit suicide"? Cliffe says "IT's scary". What is scary is the fact that Cliffe really believes he is answering the guys question when he isn't. Why can't someone live to just live? You work, you raise a family, you do things. That is a life. The more I listen to Cliffe, the less I think there is a God.
@saintpaulofyoutube44162 жыл бұрын
"I'm living because I'm alive" ... mmmk
@jessebryant92332 жыл бұрын
Hey, guess why people are not living! 🤪
@knxcholx6 ай бұрын
@jessebryant9233 cause they ain't alive 🥴
@thunderx30052 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven amen 🙏🏾 John 14:6 amen 🙏🏾
@latinotruthseeker88522 жыл бұрын
Amen.
@lightworker45122 жыл бұрын
Uh, nope
@brianmendenhall83872 жыл бұрын
@@lightworker4512 Uh, yep🙌
@lightworker45122 жыл бұрын
@@brianmendenhall8387 nope. So, Gandhi, Albert Einstein, and other great people are burning in Hell? If that was true, and if Jesus Was only way to Heaven then that would make Jesus a narcissistic despot. But Jesus is not. All Streams flow to the ocean. Drops of water all contain the essence of the ocean.
@brianmendenhall83872 жыл бұрын
@@lightworker4512 Jesus said to him, "I AM the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me". JOHN 14:6 I cannot say whether or not Gandhi or Einstein are in hell or not,....but I do know that if one does not know Christ, believe in Christ, abide in Christ, and surrendered their life to Him, they will spend eternity separate from Him. God does not force anyone into Heaven, hence why He has given us free will.
@larzman6512 жыл бұрын
After watching this video it is my assumption by examination (opinion) that these debaters have no idea what they believe and do very little research but regurgitate very well
@alexfenstermacher27142 жыл бұрын
Actually Cliffe is firm believer in Christ, he is not forcing his ideas on anyone, instead he wants to hear what others believe. Then hears their questions, and talks to them on an intellectual level, giving respects to these people. He is an person who took the time to question different ideas and theologies, and due the evidence about Jesus he has made the ultimate decision speak to people who are not secure in there faith to answer question they would not get answers to in their loco community. Peace be with you.
@larzman6512 жыл бұрын
@@alexfenstermacher2714 I wasn't referring to cliff I should have made that more clear
@alexfenstermacher27142 жыл бұрын
@@larzman651 gotcha, yes then I completely agree.
@larzman6512 жыл бұрын
@@darkeen42 there are no edits as you claim. I see your the next guy who's just gonna comment on stuff with no proof of your claims but you will dodge Bob and weave like no man's business
@larzman6512 жыл бұрын
@@darkeen42 the kids sitting there know who he is or they wouldn't debate him they would run and scream stranger danger. You are funny please continue. So dude just poofs out of thin air starts a video 🤦. I hope your parents didn't waste to much money on you
@redrusso98362 жыл бұрын
I have a saying that goes like this, if you're being good without a reason then your being good for nothing.
@jackalsgate11462 жыл бұрын
I would rather deal with people who do good for no reason; then, doing good with a reason behind it. We do good for the sake of doing good, and not, because there should be a reason behind it.
@redrusso98362 жыл бұрын
@@jackalsgate1146 of course we like to be around good people. There is no reward at the end of it if you do it just because. As Cliff says, on what moral authority? Your idea of good might be evil to another. We have one standard of good that comes from God and nobody is good.
@michaelcarter70792 жыл бұрын
@@jackalsgate1146, even though you might think there is no reason for doing good, there is always a reason why we do what we do. How do you find good without having a standard to go by. What's you definition of good? First determine your why, and then what's in life will fall in place. Why becomes before what. A great example of this is that my why is that people should not be sexually abused, then your what maybe that you and others form homeless shelters that educate people about how to prevent being sexually abused. From your perspective, how can the doing good be performed without first defining what good is?
@jackalsgate11462 жыл бұрын
@@michaelcarter7079 That's right...I have my own moral code for why I do something good; however, I do not do good so that I will be rewarded for the good things that I do. If I do something good for someone, and they think that is not good; then, I'll apologize and be on my way. Anyway you slice it: morality is subjective. Like I said before: if someone wants to do something good for me; then, I prefer they do it without any kind of preconceived notions.
@michaelcarter70792 жыл бұрын
@@jackalsgate1146, agree to disagree. There is objective truth as cliff was trying to get at. How do know how to interact with each other then? Everyone would say stealing is wrong and the item stolen from another needs to be returned. Another example would be that everyone deserves the right to live without being attacked or murdered. The list can go on and on, but if dig deep enough there is a set of expectations that everyone subconsciously agrees on. There is a rule book that everyone agrees upon what is acceptable behavior and what's not in any given society in much the same way teams playing sports agree on the rules of the game beforehand, then play the game without changing those rules. A game without rules is not a game in the same way as no laws or expectations set forth by society at large. The only thing left to discuss then where does this source come from. I would have to say it's the moral code of the Bible. This was at least the standard we had when this country was first being formed. Why do anything then if there were no expectations to do good or evil, and how would we be able to define good and evil in the first place? We could be doing alot of activity in our lives, but how do we know what we are doing is for the better or worse? I am not getting at that you do things to be recognized, but there are other reasons why we do what we do. What's your reason? My is to share the gospel message of Jesus Christ and live in a way that would honor the King of Kings, and Lord of Lords.
@rapturebound1972 жыл бұрын
Bingo - that kid was intellectually dishonest ..and being that way has gotten him by so far... so he thinks he has figured out an irrefutable position. The problem is intellectual dishonesty is always a dead end. It may take a person very far in life but that dead end eventually comes...and when it does the game is up.
@alexfenstermacher27142 жыл бұрын
Yes, I agree. I also think the conviction you get after hearing the Truth spoken by Jesus, that you can’t live with that intellectual dishonesty. It will fight you at the core, and then your faced with the decision to change your ways according to what Jesus commands, or continue living with the decision you don’t want God and his rules or Jesus and his rules
@gingercake09077 ай бұрын
It won’t take him far it may put him in a pit and only Jesus Christ can get him out. He’s doomed if he doesn’t take Jesus’s hand. I pray for the people who will suffer because of him.
@bobotpanolino7712 жыл бұрын
give them an answer sir God will blessed you..the light will see and shine even in the darkest places...
@Zacharythorsen2 жыл бұрын
I love cliff I love listening to these videos never stop making them cliff keep educating us younger generation we need to hear more about God
@theoskeptomai25352 жыл бұрын
How did you come to conclude that this god you've mentioned exists?
@thundergasaway65022 жыл бұрын
One good thing to say that you can use, Ray Comfort uses often, the evidence for God is simple. Obviously there's manuscript, historical, archeological, prophetic, and eye witness. But the evidence there is a builder of a building is the building itself. You dont have to know him/them, they don't have to be alive, documented, photographed anything. The fact the building is there proves there is a builder. Same thing with a painting and a painter. You could extend this to many things. But next you can extend this to creation. The evidence there is a creator is creation. All the miraculous things. Like a human eye for example, 137 million light sensitive cells. How could it have evolved over time if each part of the eye is a necessary part of the other. It's all intricately crested and designed. Plus nothing can't create something. The fact that something exists at all compared to nothing is evidence of God. Energy cannot be created or destroyed yet simultaneously time space and matter came into existence from nothing. Then add in intelligent design argument, and fine tuning, the evidence for God is basically undeniable with everything else. You should hit more prophetic evidence. Because the fact things come true thousands of years later is evidence of the truth that Jesus is manifest in the flesh. Like the dead sea becoming fresh after thousands of years. 90m under the surface there are underwater fissures letting in fresh groundwater causing the surrounding crater to be teaming with microbial life. It's biblical. Plus many other things. Jewish people got their land back. The white horse. All the end time signs. Plus just the messianic prophecies Jesus fulfilled with his birth, life, death, and Resurrection. He fulfilled hundreds. Over 300 at least. These things also testify to the truth. And the spirit of Jesus is the spirit of truth and prophecy. So I think it could help. But I'm loving watching you share the word. Thank you and I'm glad I found your videos. God bless you for sharing the truth.
@MrRonGonzales2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorites so far! Great video Cliffe!
@paulwilfridhunt2 жыл бұрын
Paul the apostle was always a thinker even before his great conversion. But because he was feeding error into his thinking apparatus he was making bad judgments calls. And even though he would have known, via common knowledge, that Jesus was a just man, nevertheless he thought he was a blasphemer. Paul wanted to preserve Judaism at all costs, hence he was rooting out this sect that could damage it. And although he eventually became adept at reasoning with the Jews, in the synagogue on the sabbath day, it’s unlikely that anyone could have reasoned with him, before his conversion. Such was his zeal. He had heard Stevan’s speech before he got stoned to death. And he was aware that the believers were humble good people. But it didn’t matter a jot to him because they were the enemy of Judaism . That’s where the buck stopped. He was a hard head. Presumably some of the believers prayed for his conversion, and the miracle happened. When all else fails, pray.
@GraftedOliveBranch2 жыл бұрын
All praise, glory and honour belongs to Jesus Christ, the King of kings and Lord of lords.
@theoskeptomai25352 жыл бұрын
So you don't praise or honor any real person? Yes or no.
@barryallen87532 жыл бұрын
And GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT
@GraftedOliveBranch2 жыл бұрын
@@barryallen8753 Within the body of Christ, the fullness of the deity was pleased to dwell.
@barryallen87532 жыл бұрын
@@GraftedOliveBranch Jesus Christ is GOD AND THE HOLY SPIRIT KING OF ISRAEL OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN OUR CREATOR
@GraftedOliveBranch2 жыл бұрын
@@theoskeptomai2535 Seriously... get a life, bro. Think of all the things you could potentially achieve if you spent less time trolling Cliffes videos and more time being a productive member of society.
@Acontinuist2 жыл бұрын
Generally People don't have questions! they have fortresses they hide behind. It's called self justification.
@VesarchThatsV2 жыл бұрын
Cliffe, does not Make more recentily videos? Sorry my english. I'm trying
@primeminister66 Жыл бұрын
Cliff got down to the point on this one. They just want to do what they want to do. Reminds me of what Turek said
@matthewdavidlandberg915882 жыл бұрын
I agree with Cliffe on this. I have faith in GOD, the GOD that's outside time, space and matter who came into time in the person of Jesus the Messiah, choose 12 apostles, did ministry amongst the poor and downtrotted of the Land of Israel, who came to die for the sins of mankind on a tree, was resurrected by the supernatural power of GOD the Father and went into heaven and gave us HIS spirit on Pentecost (Shavuot) and that he was a Jew. We are no better that anyone else.
@theoskeptomai25352 жыл бұрын
How did you determine this god is outside time, space, and matter? Don't all realities occur in continuity with time, space and matter?
@txbill25122 жыл бұрын
Cliff's patience with this kid is something to behold. The kid was running himself around in circles. That said, I'm glad the young man at least asked the question. I hope his interaction with Cliff causes him to continue to consider the options that are out there, including Christ. If he does some serious analysis, he'll come to the conclusion that, through the evidence, Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life.
@absolutelyfookinnobody28432 жыл бұрын
Bro, this isn't even a highlight of his patience. He has a video of a chick interrupting the original talker. Calls cliffe a racist because he is white, Christian is a "white" religion lmao. Then she tells a black chick she doesn't know her ancestors or her ancestor religion and she got brain washed by white people that's why she chose to be Christian. Lol
@tonycruise2 жыл бұрын
kid in the red shirt had many words but nothing to say, may God show him wisdom
@friedit78622 жыл бұрын
I watched all your videos up to a year ago, wow the channel is at 88k awesome!!!!
@raedsuliman19762 жыл бұрын
Why don’t these atheist go make an argument at the mall with Santa Claus or the fairy godmother. It’s because they know they don’t exist. But why is it that the atheist will take the time to make the argument that God doesn’t exist. It’s because they know he does exist. The Bible says in Romans 1 everyone knows that God exist and there without excuse. Romans 1:18-21 18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; 19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. 20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: 21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
@gingercake09077 ай бұрын
Thank you Cliff, it’s who we say Jesus Christ is that will secure us a place around God’s throne.
@Tennethums12 жыл бұрын
As an Atheist, my “life’s meaning” is multi faceted; I live to be healthy and happy with as level a “playing field” as is available to me. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Our forefathers were so damn smart. My “driving force” isn’t God. It’s my survival instinct. And being a cognitive, human I am aware of things like television and automobiles (among countless other things) that I derive happiness from, beyond the need to eat, drink, etc that come from the instinctual nature of my being. It’s that simple. What’s, “right”/“wrong” and what others think is a completely different topic. Yes, you can be Hitler. Yes, you can be Mother Teresa. Your opinion of either has no effect on their perspective of their own life and what was important (worth living) to them. I think the kid had a lot of good points and was probably frustrated that he couldn’t have an honest discussion with someone who couldn’t put away his boner for God. 🤷🏻♂️ You don’t need God to have these discussions.
@uflfhoala97692 жыл бұрын
Man I see where you are coming from and although I would like you to see that you can't give your life the best meaning for it without God, you probably won't change, so I can just say, I love you, hope you change before you have no time to do so, and end up in hell paying for what you have done, love bro God bless
@Tennethums12 жыл бұрын
@@uflfhoala9769 There is no Hell. Also, I’d stay away from comments like that. I know it seems the thing to say because of your faith and it’s what your church has told you to parrot, but it’s just kind of rude. You’re nowhere near beginning to prove Hell even exists, much less thinking you have both the power to judge and condemn someone to it for all eternity, simply because they don’t believe what you do. So, you kind of come off as a dick as well. Just some friendly advice 😇 But yeah, I’m not worried about Hell.
@Selahsayless2 жыл бұрын
There is a moral law written on our hearts by God, the more you numb your God given conscience(sin, drugs, alcohol) the more you forsake that moral law. It’s why we naturally feel shame, guilt, etc after doing something contrary to that moral law. Furthermore, we are made in God’s image which is why our main drive is LOVE. Because he is Love and he made us not because he had to, but he wanted to SHARE that Love with us. Just like how when something good happens to us we long to share it with someone else. God is love, so anything to goes against him is the opposite. He defines what is good and what is not. I used to be atheist and God completely changed me and opened my eyes to the truth four years ago. The Bible is the only prophetic book in the world that has been 100% clear and accurate. The evidence for the truth of Jesus is outstanding and undeniable. Try and disprove the Bible yourself, you can’t. But you can try. It’s willful ignorance to deny the existence of God as he has made himself known throughout the entire universe. It all points to having a creator. And the Bible lays it all out perfectly.
@Tennethums12 жыл бұрын
@@Selahsayless I really don’t know where to start. I’m not a drug addict or alcoholic. I’m a guy that believes no gods exist. Doesn’t mean I’m a wreck. You’d know this if you had really been an Atheist. Unless your Atheism was not due to skepticism (ie you proclaimed yourself an Atheist to your parents as a form of rebellion or something…)? You don’t have to lie to try and make your argument seem legit. As to everything else…pretty standard response. “God is love”, “we can’t have morals without him” and all that. Of course, you’re completely wrong in everything you say…but I get as long as you stick to the script, reinforce your faith with weekly visits to a place where everyone thinks like you and refrain from reading the Bible in its entirety…yep, you’ll probably always believe you’ve got it figured out 😇
@doughensley62022 жыл бұрын
@@Tennethums1 well like the great philosopher Bob Dylan "you have to serve somebody" im not arrogant to think I'm it to serve myself alone like atheist do, I believe its more humble in light of the evidence to serve the living God.
@stevewyche52322 жыл бұрын
Fact: Nearly every 20 something on the planet has ideals to "make the world a better place". In actuality, less than 1% of those actually do. And it's not really their fault, it's just that they get married, have a career, children and find that life is consuming enough.
@kevinstamper97962 жыл бұрын
Like in the Book of Judges “everyone did what was right in their own eyes” this young man is so lost! I’m just going to live life for myself regardless if I can help anyone else smh
@bonnie43uk2 жыл бұрын
He seems like a young man with his head in the right place to me. He didn't come across as someone who is lost. It's a shame we don't get to know what he's doing now.. I'm guessing he has a good career and is doing ok.
@thinkwithscripture2 жыл бұрын
Jesus is the only way, the only truth, and the only life. Without him there is nothing to hope for in this life or the one that is coming. He is the redeemer. Christ has paid tremendous price for you. If you’re in Christ, you are no longer in condemnation. God loves you. He died for you. He is with you. God of heaven and earth richly bless you. 😊❤️
@docfate2 жыл бұрын
This guy has no answer to Cliffs challenge about evidence, that he is dancing around like his life depends on it. It's hilarious!
@alexfenstermacher27142 жыл бұрын
I think people just want the crowd to reassure their ego of their ability to talk in a intellectual level, even if they can never remember the evidence behind their “faith”
@bonnie43uk2 жыл бұрын
@@alexfenstermacher2714 to be fair to the young kid, he's being challenged by a seasoned Christian apologist, it can be a little daunting .. i think if he was in a different setting and given time to think of his answer he'd be able to answer Cliffe.. and he had a good point that Cliffe didnt really answer HIS point.. why should he be punished for not believing in God?
@docfate2 жыл бұрын
@@bonnie43uk : But he does believe in God. He said that he believes in Logic and Reason. If there is no God, then there is no justification for believing in there being objective truths, logic not reason. So, by him believing in logic and reason, he is being inconsistent and shows that he does believe in God Jesus, but denies His existence because he loves his sin. Just like Cliff told him.. Now, he needs to repent and believe and stop his nonsense rebellion before it's too late.
@bonnie43uk2 жыл бұрын
@@docfate I believe in logic and reason docfate, but i do not believe those things came from God, Heh, i think you've been on this channel longer than me, we must have chatted about 10 years ago here on Ask Cliffe. i think logic and reason are human concepts. How would you go about proving they came from God, .. it seems logical to me that we are the result of a long chain of evolution that goes back millions of years.. do you believe in early man.. people who were covered in hair and used basic stone tools?
@alexfenstermacher27142 жыл бұрын
@@bonnie43uk well I believe punishment is deserved when you have heard the good news of Jesus and the Truth he brought, and deny it till the day you die. If I’m wrong about my faith on Jesus then no big deal (which I truly truly experienced his grace and when I inherited the Holy Spirit), but if your wrong that’s a big boy decision you chose, and when you chose wrong you deserve to pay consequences.
@TheStrangerbyAlbertCamus2 жыл бұрын
That man has incredible patience. 🙏🏿 Bless him. 🙏🏿 because it’s almost always the same question(s). These people really don’t understand that there’s something that define good or bad universally. Just that is supposed to make you believe in God if you are HONEST and THINK.
@honestabe_92072 жыл бұрын
20:12 & 23:30 A liar caught in 4K… Firstly mentions that he was a Muslim, and now (all of the sudden) he’s a secularist… May God forgive him man 😂😂😂
@knxcholx6 ай бұрын
11:21 I love those two guys in the background that just can't believe what they're hearing "how does he not get the point? 🤦🏻"
@keepthechange28112 жыл бұрын
You wanna make the world better? Keep all ten commandments. You'll do no better. And how can I understand the bible without reading it?
@stevetherush11932 жыл бұрын
What was that first guy talking about? He was asked to justify his way of life and the only thing he said is : personal choice....dude, everyone that has lived has decided how to live as a personal choice.... personal philosophies are based on how we justify it to ourselves, whether on a conscious or subconscious level...if its just "coz i choose", that's so dangerous, coz anyone can say that, and it doesn't matter how they justify it I live coz I'm alive is just such a nothing reason....even bacteria live coz they're alive
@whodis7992 жыл бұрын
The first kid is what the vast majority of what r/atheism on reddit consist of.
@esineskiizmir45312 жыл бұрын
Pastor you are super. Good teacher .👍
@Chrisstian1112 жыл бұрын
With the first guy, I do not care what answers Cliffe gives him, they would not be good enough. But, when you are young, you feel like you know everything lol
@theoskeptomai25352 жыл бұрын
Is it possible that the answers aren't "good enough" because no such god exists? Yes or no.
@chrisstian57292 жыл бұрын
@@theoskeptomai2535 Anything is possible, but with the complexity of the world and the universe, evidence points more towards a purpose for everything. Something had to design and create everything around us. Hard to believe it just happened on its own. But, just my thoughts.....
@kevinstamper97962 жыл бұрын
I think preachers talking “destiny” is confusing myself. We all unless chooses by God just live LIFE but you do it with compassion for your fellow person in mind.
@zachshaffer90362 жыл бұрын
When someone asks you for evidence of god, laugh and point to the building and say that it came here randomly….of course a smart person will object then you say of course a building has a builder AND the creation has …a Creator ….plants trees, planets stars etc…point to a creator
@saintpaulofyoutube44162 жыл бұрын
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 if you laugh at that... you didn't understand it.
@saintpaulofyoutube44162 жыл бұрын
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 so you don't understand why people recognize the properties that are necessary for certain types of causality? Again, your understanding of the issue leaves much to be desired .
@saintpaulofyoutube44162 жыл бұрын
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 sweety, you didn't ask a question.
@BigIdeaSeeker2 жыл бұрын
Cliffe, I can promise you, sir, that you are so disingenuous it’s scary.
@saintpaulofyoutube44162 жыл бұрын
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 bored? You're bored by people calling you out on your silly comments? You have options.
@thepherm2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@billyholly2 жыл бұрын
The first guy is trying to dodge presenting alternative evidence, the "I don't know" nonargument and Cliffe is not giving into it. I agree with Cliffe, that it is intellectually dishonest.
@saintpaulofyoutube44162 жыл бұрын
It's almost like he's reading some of the commentors around here.
@jessebryant92332 жыл бұрын
Can you say... Begins with a 'B'... One guess!!
@bonnie43uk2 жыл бұрын
The evidence for the "non existence" of God? surely it's up to Cliffe to provide credible evidence.. i know for him, he absolutely accepts the Gospels as 100% proof of God.. but for many of us, those gospels of Matt, Mark, Luke and John are not convincing, they read as stories billy.. you actually have prose and dialogue between the characters, much of it is written in the 3rd person. Jesus is talking with Satan on a high mountain.. who witnessed such an event? Which mountain were they on that they could see all the kingdoms? .. even if they were stood on Mount Everest they would only be able to see for 100 miles or so on a clear day... they wouldnt be able to see other continents.. the people who wrote the gospels weren't even aware of places like America or Australia.
@billyholly2 жыл бұрын
From the mountain top, I've always assumed it was a vision and not physically being able to see "EVERYTHING." It could also be hyperbole. Either way, IT DOES NOT CHANGE THE MESSAGE. Do atheists believe in things they cannot see or have evidence for? That's Cliffe's point. It take A LOT of faith to be an atheist. Cliffe addresses the lack of intellectual honesty as atheists actually DO believe in "something."
@billyholly2 жыл бұрын
@@bonnie43uk Here's a clip of mine, released about two weeks ago: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnmzYnV7ab2rrNU in which I have a nicely written monologue.
@Smfdydb2 жыл бұрын
The first kid does not listen. Cliffe makes clear sense and repeats himself over and over lol come on dude.
@Laura-dz9om2 жыл бұрын
Cliffe gives him a reasonable answer and he says BUT, that's a straw man argument, that's a false analogy..... If Jesus appeared before him he would say that an indigestible piece of food I ate causing me to see strange things. Geez!!!!
@the_alchemy_method2 жыл бұрын
Got that end track stuck in my head keep finding myself singing randomly lol 😂
@Jaryism2 жыл бұрын
How is this 14 yr old on campus? They just get younger and more self absorbed don’t they..
@jacobmarquez19772 жыл бұрын
God bless you preacher Cliffe😁😁🙏
@jessebryant92332 жыл бұрын
I think the first kids name is... Bonnie! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@bonnie43uk2 жыл бұрын
Ah, you're doing him a dis-service Jesse, he's far smarter than me. He made a great point that you cannot force another person to believe something that they doubt. I've watched hundreds of these excellent debates, it would be good to hear from a student who, after chatting with Cliffe, became convinced of Cliffe's arguments and came on camera afterwards to admit that Cliffe convinced him/her, and that they are now a committed Christian.. it would be good for Cliffe's audience to see that the power of Cliffes argument chimed with a student, and made them change their point of view. Not to say that it hasn't happened or couldn't happen, people do become Christians all the time, but it's far more likely that people lose their faith when they enter higher education, and are exposed to scientific education where we have good solid answers to many of the questions that people in the past attributed to a God. Jesse, would you say that Christianity is on the rise in America? I know for an absolute almost certain fact that you are going to mock and scoff at this reply. Ok, thats a given, ..it's all water off a ducks back to me my friend. But what are your thoughts about my question concerning Christianity in America? Is it on the rise from what you can observe?
@jessebryant92332 жыл бұрын
Speak of the Devil! Bonnie boy shows up and admits that he is even dumber than the kid in the video-despite trolling this channel for over a decade and claiming to have been raised "Christian"! Hey, that pretty much says is all! [face-palm]
@bonnie43uk2 жыл бұрын
@@jessebryant9233 Yes, right on cue, i get up in the morning and like to respond to anyone who's taken the time to reply to me before i shoot off to work. You've kind of totally misrepresented my comment Jesse, I did not say I am admitting to being dumber than the kid in the video, quite the opposite, i said he's far smarter than me, .. but as i predicted, you'd put a spin on it and mock me. That's what you do. I'm happy to repeat my question though, Q: would you say that Christianity is on the rise in America?
@jessebryant92332 жыл бұрын
@@bonnie43uk Because sadly, you have nothing better to do than return to your own vomit. (Proverbs 26:11)
@bonnie43uk2 жыл бұрын
@@jessebryant9233 Ignoring the insults Jesse. Do you believe Christianity is on the rise in America?
@Freddyfrm185 ай бұрын
Without God, morality is irrelevant. Your bad could be somebody else's good and vice-versa. This kid keeps talking about making the world better, but like Cliffe said, "Under who's standards?" The problem with this kid is that he thinks he's a good person, but Jesus says,"There is none good but One, that is, God."
@elizabethshaw7342 жыл бұрын
Cliffe is in no way talking about religion! He is speaking about belief.
@smileyguy72142 жыл бұрын
Pray for that young man. He’s trying, might be lost and has no connection with God. God job Cliffe.
@theoskeptomai25352 жыл бұрын
Is there a possibility that there is no god?
@smileyguy72142 жыл бұрын
Yes, in hell.
@theoskeptomai25352 жыл бұрын
@@smileyguy7214 How about in reality?
@doughensley62022 жыл бұрын
@@theoskeptomai2535 yes I'm reality.
@theoskeptomai25352 жыл бұрын
@@doughensley6202 "yes I'm reality"?!?
@maccusmc2 жыл бұрын
Cliffe is soooo dishonest. How can he tell the kid who said he loves to make the world a better place being a lifestyle based on faith? It's so silly. You can say his position is objective and that's fine, but not faith
@doughensley62022 жыл бұрын
He is worshiping himself and his understanding. Thsts the point cliff is trying to get the kid to understand. Which proves that the kid is actually making a faith claim without the kid realizing it.
@WizzRacing9 ай бұрын
The kid is the one that is dishonest. As he wants evidence for God's existence. The very fact he is at a College. Created and Funded by religious people years ago. How about the very laws that God passed down. That he benefits from. As God told them how to treat Prisoners of War. The Poor, The Sick. etc... All the way to setting up legal systems of Justice. And every nation that has used them is better for it. So God's word on Behavior and Justice do work. As we practice them everyday.. Why you are the dishonest one. You steal from God that which he gave mankind on how to live and behave. To make your assertion. You see how that works. You want to serve two masters. One being yourself. Then stealing from God to make a Moral Assertion.. How do I know this? I was once just like you and the kid. A smart ass know it all...
@Hellyea4Trump8 ай бұрын
@doughensley6202 some dopes just can't grasp basic logic
@CarlCampbellMusic2 жыл бұрын
16:54 Guy: "I never made the choice to be an atheist" Cliffe: "who made the choice for you? " Athiesm = disbelief that there is a God, all beliefs and disbeliefs are down to choice
@Jonas-gl9ke2 жыл бұрын
Did you choose your favourite ice cream flavour? If so, choose to make your least favourite flavour your favourite flavour? Did you choose your favourite genre of music or the person you love? Quick, change these things. One is either convinced a proposition is true or not convinced a proposition is true. Evidence should be what convinces you of the truth of a proposition.
@rw34522 жыл бұрын
The stripy guy seems to have not grasped the nature of the conversation, he just wanted to dump on the idea of the supernatural without actually engaging in the conversation. He is used the ideas of new atheism saying they don’t need to have a reason for their ideas.
@bonnie43uk2 жыл бұрын
He made a lot of sense to me, but heh, i would say that as a non believer. I get that Cliffe 100% believes in Christianity, he talked a lot about the evidence for Jesus, but in reality, the evidence for Jesus is nowhere near as strong as he'd like to think. Not a single person actually wrote a thing about Jesus while he lived, everything written about Jesus was written decades after he died. That's a fact. Even Pauls letters were written about 20 years or so after the life and time of Jesus.
@jessebryant92332 жыл бұрын
@@bonnie43uk He made a lot of sense to you? Bonnie, you're a liar. Or maybe you can demonstrate otherwise? ... Bonnie? Can you tell us about the "evidence" FOR your naturalistic faith? No, you can't. In reality, there is no evidence FOR your faith. But you believe anyhow! Double-standard? Hey, you wouldn't be Bonnie if you didn't appeal to gross double-standards! As for how you know what you just claimed to know... You wish. But even so, decades is a fairly short period of time compared to all the figures from antiquity that you never question... I mean 20 years later? And? So? What's your point Bonnie? You believe in all sorts of nonsense that has never been observed by a living soul ever in the history of the world! Your faith is legion compared to the faith of any Christian. When it comes to loud obnoxious fools, you take the cake.
@rw34522 жыл бұрын
@@bonnie43uk seems you missed the point too.
@bonnie43uk2 жыл бұрын
@@rw3452 ok, please explain the point.
@rw34522 жыл бұрын
@@bonnie43uk in regards to the rest of what you said you may as well throw everything in history out before video was invented. History nor evidence works that way you mentioned. I’m not making a claim of Christianity so please leave your ad hominem elsewhere. You cannot prove not a single person wrote anything whilst he lived, besides we only know the completed works are dated as early as 20 years ish but from what you said you may believe any in the us true before the invention of photography or TV maybe, it’s hard to follow your pick and choose logic. You may as well believe Jesus didn’t exist which perhaps that’s your position which would probably make sense from your faith position. Pretty much the only way I can make sense of what you said as one cannot use logic from your statements.
@barakoniner16442 жыл бұрын
Wow...these are college students? The first got schoooooooooooooled lol cliffe mic drop
@chosenone84082 жыл бұрын
11:20 Watch the kid in the red shirt in the upper left corner of the screen, his response to the stripped shirt kid's "not understanding," is funny. Stripped shirt kid is refusing the logic. He's not misunderstanding it, he outright refuses to submit to it. Moreover, stripped shirt kid is making a moral argument, which is easily refuted by asking him where he gets his morals from.
@theoskeptomai25352 жыл бұрын
Individuals form their own moral assesments, do they not? Yes or no.
@achristfollowingturnbullma82372 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you debate a Muslim especially these ones that go to manuscript errors and call them contradictions your search a great debater really level headed and perfectly angled Like all the time
@Brucev72 жыл бұрын
CAnswersTV, at same location, has them
@majidmousa96332 жыл бұрын
I wanna see him have a talk with Mohammed hijab or Ali dawah
@achristfollowingturnbullma82372 жыл бұрын
@@majidmousa9633 I would to hear him with Sheikh Uthman
@JUSTFORFUN-gv5ot2 жыл бұрын
@@majidmousa9633 they should debate Christian prince first.
@laurasaldana55882 жыл бұрын
Cliffe didn’t disappoint as usual… he avoided answering the question he was asked by Turing it around and sticking to that. I wish he would just answer the questions.
@0Halves9 ай бұрын
He answered it sir
@whodey48514 ай бұрын
There is evidence all over the world for the existence of God ❗️🗣
@ChiefCedricJohnson Жыл бұрын
1 Corinthians 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
@Mokuzai-Onna.2 жыл бұрын
There's over 4,000 religions on Earth. Each religion quotes a similar John 3:16 in THEIR similar bible. 4000 religions talk about God and each similar Bible has a different similar Jesus. Each religion thinks the other religion going to hell. Let's imagine there is no religion. Does that mean God will not talk to us?? God put us all here on Earth, even the gentiles or the so-called unbelievers. Every one of us has a reason from God why we are here. We can quote scripture all day long from all the different Bibles out there in the world and all the similar Bibles out there in the world and none can not tell us God's true intentions. I've been told Faith and Hope is what I need. Why do I need faith and hope when I believe in God. I believe majority of religious people have put religion before God and not God before religion. I look around me everyday and see who are truly lost. I see many religious and non-religious people lost. Connecting directly with God is the answer. It's a relationship where it's nobody's business but yourself and God. I do not fear God because I know God loves me.
@ezeajughuchukwuemekalumsul98867 ай бұрын
Mr cliff give these people no room to say rubbish if you must argue with him you should not have what it takes you should have all it takes to defend what you are saying
@dracs0072 жыл бұрын
What I find baffling is ppl always wanna argue about evidence of existence of God. To me, my despise for religion never was about proof of his existence. What I found so very disturbing about religion, Christianity and Islam in particular is how they portray God to be. To suggest God tortures souls for eternity and never forgive them just because they didn’t believe a certain way is to suggest that God is evil. There is no logical way you can get around that assumption. So what religion is really saying is that God is evil and you should fear him. Nah, I chose to love a God that loves us all, suffers with us all and forgives us all. If my God doesn’t exist, and the one you religion boys believe in does then Hell probly isn’t that bad anyways, Because a God that is this evil can only be limited in his power, and evil always loses in the end.
@jessebryant92332 жыл бұрын
And yet, the Bible doesn't say that God tortures souls for eternity (it says they are in torment) and it never says that people in hell ever repent and besides that, you have no basis for defining good or evil. Or do you believe in God? And what God is that? One of your own making? No, what the Bible says is that God is perfectly good and just and so must punish evil. He gives you a means of escape, but if you love your sin-your evil-more than you love goodness which only comes from God, then rejecting God now, you will spend eternity separated from God forever-the source of goodness, justice, love, truth, peace, mercy-and living without those things, would be hell. So why do you refuse the goodness, justice, love, truth, peace, mercy that is available to you through Christ?
@theoskeptomai25352 жыл бұрын
@@jessebryant9233 Can you present any _evidentiary facts_ or any sound argument that demonstrates the existence of this god you've mentioned? Yes or no.
@dracs0072 жыл бұрын
@@jessebryant9233 doesn’t matter what the Bible says. What matters is how the ppl who interpret the Bible and tell us follow in line or u will burn for ever. So I’m not reeling u Bible is wrong, I’m telling u Churches are wrong, teachers like this deuce is wrong
@dracs0072 жыл бұрын
@@jessebryant9233 if there can be only one true religion but that true religion is not equally available to everyone then God must be evil. If u don’t understand that simple logic then God help u
@dracs0072 жыл бұрын
@@jessebryant9233 I came to US as a student when I was 18. Until then I had never ever heard of the name Jesus. So I know with absolutely certainty that ppl die in thousands every day who have never heard of the name Christ. So all these ppl who chanted “ save me Krishna” or “ save me Allah “ before death will be tortured for ever according to ppl who teach your religion. Does the Bible explicitly say this? No it doesn’t. But ironically, the whole selling point of Christianity lies on this one selling point: “Accept Christ as your savior or burn in hell”
@Raw-guitar2 жыл бұрын
There is a super natural existence, for sure.
@Jonas-gl9ke2 жыл бұрын
Given we have no known mechanism for identifying and confirming supernatural existence or supernatural causation, how would you demonstrate this?
@JesusChrist_myLordmySavior.2 жыл бұрын
God's seed has been planted in that first kids heart, Holy Spirit please guide him to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ 🙏❤️.
@theoskeptomai25352 жыл бұрын
How did you determine that this god, holy spirit, or Jesus even exist? What methodolgies did you employ to reach such a conclusion? Take me through the steps of your reasoning.
@JesusChrist_myLordmySavior.2 жыл бұрын
@@theoskeptomai2535 because I have Faith in Jesus.
@theoskeptomai25352 жыл бұрын
@@JesusChrist_myLordmySavior. Couldn't you not rationalize ANY belief by "having faith"? Could a person not have faith in Phooey Poppycock, Prince of Purple Pixies - would that be considered evidence for Phooey's existence? Yes or no.
@JesusChrist_myLordmySavior.2 жыл бұрын
@@theoskeptomai2535 because you don't know me, you won't believe me, but the only reason why I put my Faith 100% in Jesus Christ was because I have experienced miracles.
@theoskeptomai25352 жыл бұрын
@@JesusChrist_myLordmySavior. Are you asserting that I have to know a person before I can possibly believe what they state can be true?
@drewsotona92052 жыл бұрын
Love conquers all
@i_assume2 жыл бұрын
Cliff should point out when people say *i believe*
@joshuahorne822011 ай бұрын
This was brilliant
@waterheaterservices2 жыл бұрын
A whole generation re educated for glorious revolutionary Party approved humanist socialist people's Correct Thinking and speech. Support The Party!
@spacecoastz40262 жыл бұрын
What the kid failed to understand is that BOTH are a way of life....either for God...or for himself.
@theREALchubert762 жыл бұрын
I'm stupid and even I understand what Cliff is saying.
@paulwilfridhunt2 жыл бұрын
We are not judge and jury, especially as we remember the unbelievers that we used to be. However like Paul the apostle, we too can be thinkers, can’t we. The young man with the handsome ears and the red and white T-shirt said he lost his faith. Will he ever regain it? Time will tell. But currently he is snared by atheism. If God knows that he can be converted then God will see to it. But if he goes all the way to the grave as an unconverted soul, it’ll be because God didn’t intervene. And without God’s intervention theres no conversion. However God will only convert those who have that unknown desire, to be converted. Paul had this desire but was unaware of it. Therefore we give everyone a fair shake, don’t we. Why? Because we don’t know who is who. We don’t know who God has chosen.
@paulwilfridhunt2 жыл бұрын
Initially it can seem unfair that God will draw some to Himself and not others. But if we take into consideration that God is only drawing those whom He knows will go His way, then on this basis it’s different, because it is fair and just. God isn’t forcing us but sometimes He uses a lot of force, as He did with Paul the apostle’s Damascus wake up call. God timed the intervention in Paul’s life perfectly. Right time right place. Inherently Paul was a good guy that persecuted the church sincerely believing it was necessary. Obviously, before his conversion he didn’t believe in the resurrection. He was only getting one side of the story, and this was a very smart man. Certainly a genius. But he wasn’t that type who would have been jeering at Jesus Christ hanging on the cross. He was actually for God, but before God audibly spoke to him, he didn’t realise that Jesus was God. God converted him bam and it was all over. But whilst it worked for Paul it wasn’t going to work Herod or Caiaphas. Therefore God never drew them because they were lost causes.
@ChiefCedricJohnson2 жыл бұрын
Matthew 16:19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
@hablaf122 жыл бұрын
Hold on a second! Why did the second guy claim to be a Muslim and then about 5 minutes later say he’s a secularist?
@laquan36612 жыл бұрын
What a way to answer!
@kevinstamper97962 жыл бұрын
From what I’ve read of the Koran vs the Bible is the Koran beheads unbelievers while the Bible teaches love, patience and kindness. This theme sounds more what a God would rather a person would do instead of force a belief
@theoskeptomai25352 жыл бұрын
If _anyone_ has any questions concerning the position of atheism or would like to understand why a former evangelical Christian came to adopt such a position, I will gladly answer any questions you may have. Peace.
@antwoinethomas83972 жыл бұрын
Absolutely yes!!!
@justinmanning2 жыл бұрын
Take a shot (kombucha) every time this young man says "incomparable"!
@גן-עדן2 жыл бұрын
or everytime he grabs his head
@truthprevails62512 жыл бұрын
Cliff the first kid reeeked of pride he said at the beginning of the debate he is his own god!!! You should have told him his faith in himself is not reliable!!! The kid worships himself