We Can't Let Them Do It Again.

[@jonnnnn]

saying a company is "LA Based" does not inspire the trust they think it does

[@supplantermusic9413]

for real lol

[@moldyzucchinis3251]

I laughed when I heard that. I dont think I’ve ever heard a product advertised like that, for good reason. If anything, call it US based, though even that doesnt inspire the confidence it once did

[@starlightkynthos]

Not the flex they think it is. More like the reddest, biggest flag.

[@tovsteh]

Most of California has completely lost its way, both socially and politically.

[@lucanos34]

Instantly makes you sound brain washed

[@Haruka_May]

The power of greed is wild. If I sold a company for 4 billion dollars I'd be out of the game. I won, I'm done. Time to just chill and live my life, not start on the next scam.

[@turgonnaish]

The kind of person who creates and sells a company for that much isn't going to put their feet up after.

[@youtubasoarus]

Well you're just not thinking like a criminal (which is good).

[@kokocaptainqc]

at those level and amount of money, every one is trying to gather ALL the money that exists to become the ruler of the world

[@UrdethaW8s]

Look up Dan Pena and watch his Christmas video from about 2 years ago.

[@oooooba8343]

thats why ur not a billionare, most of these guys are just obsessed with improving

[@YnnY_1]

Shoutouts to ad block. Haven't heard of Pie until today.

[@thecwwshow8036]

I don’t have ad block, and I never heard of pie. Kinda weird

[@Ruhjuh]

ublock origin for past 10 years

[@mrpollopizza]

​@@thecwwshow8036 same here. XD

[@ronanwaring3408]

@@Ruhjuh 8 years but they've given up from what I've heard, after mozzilla of all people took down one of their lite apps.

[@erichill414]

@@Ruhjuh It’s the best.

[@DrKumkar]

This issue about Honey is not just about creators they are actively locking out actual coupon codes so that people DONT get the best deals and in effect end up just spending the normal amount while HONEY actually pockets the discount instead of us getting the sale price

[@RobinShirewood-o3g]

if only there was a word that described such actions, or more accurately an agency with the stones to prosecute

[@tehSunBro]

yes, that is literally the only reason most people care. I betcha, if they actually deliver on their promise and start serving the best codes like they promise, and can prove they're doing that, people will go back to using it. In fact there will be people that will use it out of spite because it will harm others. All you gotta do is make a product that benefits the user and screws over everyone else, and people will glady use it. Especially if its someone they don't know and/or actively dislike, like content creators or advertisers.

[@MadManDan-MMD]

"Trust" and "LA" can't go in the same sentence

[@ColeBlueford]

Unless maybe it's something along the lines of "I trust LA to have the worst intentions at heart."

[@briankeebler4634]

I keep getting ads for Pie and it even says "by the same creators as Honey" and I can't help but giggle.

[@David.Dailey]

Sheets and giggles?

[@Nardage]

Every asmongold video has anime ads. Every single time.

[@brettbender10]

Sister company of Cream

[@larien123]

​@@David.Daileysheets and gigs?

[@user-ck9tb4fv2x]

I did for a while, Then it removed that part.

[@cjameshuff]

Basic literacy isn't falling apart, look at how prevalent text is in social media. As Thomas Sowell put it: "The problem isn't that Johnny can't read. The problem isn't even that Johnny can't think. The problem is that Johnny doesn't know what thinking is; he confuses it with feeling."

[@thomasgaming7656]

Who's jhoney

[@toby2581]

​@@thomasgaming7656A perfect illustration of Sowell's point.

[@formes2388]

No: Literacy is falling apart. If you have adults that are struggling to comprehend at what was a grade 10 level, and you have kids who struggle to put a sentence together by the time they are in grade 4/5, there is a serious problem. I never thought of myself as a reader but - sometime ago... I realized: I dig into white papers... for fun? Interest? curiosity? Critical thinking skills - that is a whole other problem, and it is related. Basic literacy is foundational to organizing complex nuanced thoughts - our minds don't hold onto a pile of data in active memory, and so what you need is a system of correlating and forming relations between idea's into a complex singular idea that can be held and processed along other data. The better you are at doing this, the more abstract of a problem you can handle and deal with.

[@Erik-i2f4d]

I love Thomas Sowell but he probably should have used LaQuisha as a name rather than Johnny.

[@Stonebluff89]

​@Erik-i2f4d very true 👍 👌

[@Nanashinoshi]

Rule of thumb, if its an ad on youtube, its 99% a scam.

[@kylekid10]

Not always. But if there is no clear way of their making money. It’s too good to be true

[@TheTonedef81]

Ya, like 1 and every 109552157086421 ads are legit

[@n3v3rforgott3n9]

Nah I bought a belt and wallet from grove life which I saw on an ad on yt.

[@matteoorlandi856]

generally, if it's not an add for, ley's say, a tractor for a farmers like me, it's a scam. if the tractor it's a jhon deere, i'ts 100% a scam as well.

[@matthewb3495]

Mobile games that don't exist, better help, honey, pie, and so on and so forth

[@justacomment123]

Shoutout to evil companies always giving themselves innocent names Honey, BetterHelp, Sweet Baby - the list goes on

[@davesaylor7829]

I refuse to be advertised to. I will spend 2 minutes reloading the page to avoid a 1 minute ad. If I can't skip the ad, I will mute it and look away. If I see the same ad too often, I will seek out the competition when/if I ever *do* need that product/service.

[@elbruces]

Just buy KZbin Red, then.

[@wck]

True. And I think content creators on this platform really fail to understand this. 90% of us watching DO NOT CARE if you get ad revenue. We also do not care if you get your ad revenue stolen by some other middleman software. We don't want ads, we try to avoid ads whenever possible, and we wouldn't stop even if it caused some creators to stop making content.

[@iamtheone91]

I do the same thing. I actively don't buy their products if I see their ads too often or if the ad is too stupid.

[@DDracee]

@@wck their revenue is a much bigger proof than your subjective opinion and experience lol, 90% of people are sheep following trends and ads

[@HFBeal]

Most people are apathetic and not spiteful like this but man do I feel that haha

[@Chris-oj7ro]

I was once told, "Nobody wants to make you rich!" This wise advice has enabled me to ignore so many scams, and eventually the scam comes to light and I get to sit back and feel sorry for the people who fell for it, but only a little.

[@infinitygamer-un4qq]

Thats not true 😂 that bitcoin dude he get free money

[@chadselbe59]

i want to make you rich. i have no way to do so. but i would if i did......

[@infinitygamer-un4qq]

@chadselbe59 me to problem is i give it already away Maby next life (;

[@BrokeBillionare]

My philosophy is if you make me rich, i will make you rich.

[@Scottthespy13]

Similar sentiment that I've always adhered to: Follow the Money. People generally don't do things for no reason, and the most common reason to do things that effect strangers is to make money. So if something sounds weirdly perfect with no downsides, try to figure out how someone could make money out of it. If you can't see a way for someone to make money from it, odds are it's either not real or the money is coming from *you* in a way they hope you won't notice. This works on determining conspiracies as well as scams, except with scams it shows you how a real thing is costing you money, and with conspiracies it shows you that since there's no money to be made, the thing can't possibly be real.

[@borisxbg]

First Honey, now Pie. Imagine if someone decides to create a company named let's say Apple and starts to scam ppl by selling them overpriced products! It will be nuts and I'm sure nobody will fall for it!

[@David.Dailey]

Har har

[@Bonwaa]

Good one dude

[@fenner1122]

I see what you did there😂

[@someweirdguy5721]

Bravo good sir although I feel like you could have been a bit meaner and more detailed

[@mnava007]

😂😂😂😂

[@PS3PCDJ]

To be completely fair, Honey has been around since before COVID. The fact that it took this long is quite insane

[@thomasv1216]

only since paypal got involved, well at least overtly involved

[@ColourFreakz]

They were probably doing it before that. There has to be a reason why the company made so much money, that paypal spend such an unbelievable sum to buy it... ​@@thomasv1216

[@ColourFreakz]

That's what I was thinking at first too! But then I remembered that over the years, Honey got a reputation of being 'in hibernation' . Which made everyone feel like it does nothing at all. I think we all assumed it was so usseless, that it couldn't even do something bad. Doing their switcheroo through the cookies probably helped too.

[@kolkagaming1234]

They thought they could slip away.

[@1CE.]

Seriously No one wants to call out KZbinrs for selling out

[@oriontigley5089]

1:33 Why Honey is bad for the end user: It gives you a carefully preselected roster of coupon codes, almost never being the best deals. This is to *trick you* into not searching for better deals. This effectively allows the companies that partner with Honey to corral consumers into cherry picked sales, while hiding better deals

[@peterphile1337]

11:06 my controversial take: content was being made before it was being monitized and it can't still be made without it, the only issue is that people want to make a cereer out of it and make a tonne of money. It used to be a hobby not a full time job

[@Chuck8541]

Yup. Absolutely. No creators owe allegiance to Google. They just want that ad revenue. Just like how hackers and programmers slowly fight each other, the free market will decide what happens. Personally, if Honey/pie became a behemoth - what’s the problem? It’s ok if GOOGLE is a behemoth? lol No. they just want that ad revenue. The internet was way better before it became the primary ad medium. I’m all for Google losing footing in the race, and I could care less if creators actually get real jobs. Everything that honey does is already available without the drama. Brave browser blocks all KZbin ads. SponsorBlock plugin blocks all baked in creator ads. Twitch Adblock extensions are a thing, and there’s crypto currencies that pay to watch ads. And for the tech savvy, creating and installing a PiHole on their home network blocks ALL other ads - on every device connected.

[@Arcidi225]

At the same time this allowed it to replace legacy media. Don't get me wrong, my favorite KZbinrs are those who are making it as a hobby. Their footage may be made using phone camera, their editing as basic as you can get, but man, when they talk about the stuff they love there is nothing better then that.

[@respectdat1]

KZbin went from 25 million in 2006, to approximately 2 billion videos in 2010 and then 14 billion videos in 2023. I suppose you could say that the shift between 2010 and 2023 was because people were able to make a career out of it; however, looking at the sheer scale between 2006 and 2010... KZbin would have absolutely been shut down without some source of funding.

[@ha-itsme]

You need to remember a video site like youtube needs to pay for storage, electricity and staffing too.

[@Arcidi225]

@@ha-itsme yup, that's extremely expensive. Web developers tend to embed KZbin videos onto their websites, not because it's hard to host it on your own, but because it's expensive. Or look at videos where streamers check how much their stream would cost if they rent the "streaming service" from aws, it's often thousands per hour. Yes, hosting live streams is more expensive, but that puts things into perspective.

[@ChibiNyan]

8:12 "trusted" "LA based". Yeah, those two don't go hand in hand.

[@Matsupitsu2nd]

Honey~ Honey~ Honeypie

[@insepra]

Ngl that's all that was on my mind seeing the thumbnail lmao

[@robster7787]

Good to know I wasn’t the only one thinking of the song when reading the thumbnail.

[@David.Dailey]

I started a company called Creampie, we get you off every purchase

[@Shy_Abi]

Great, now I have to find that meme about world war 2 from my 300GB meme folder

[@brizjoasbriz7982]

Pretty sure hes comment is about a song

[@Rhyhmx]

"Good luck finding an adblocker that does that" my brother I'm using an adblocker to not see adds not to use it to earn some chump change while also selling my info to another 90000 brokers who may or may not have it already.

[@MatthewKelley-mq4ce]

Yeah. Very confusing lol. It's an adblocker.

[@JavierSalcedoC]

Running 4 adblockers as we speak ❤❤

[@kyosokutai]

So they're trying to monetize a adblocker, by selling your adblocked data... To people who want to show you more ads. I believe that's called conflict of interests.

[@MerlinTheCommenter]

Adblockers literally sell your data, VPNs do too. I don’t think you guys understand basic internet business. If they are saving you from something else and that method is invasive (meaning downloading or installing) then you are still the product. Phone or pc running a little slow? Had spam phone calls or junk mail? Yeah, review the TOS.

[@prezlamen7906]

​@@kyosokutai*an ad

[@kaseyboles30]

Remember, "If it's free you are not the customer, you are the product".

[@BlazingOwnager]

The most shocking thing to me is that people didn't immediately know Honey was a scam the first time they ever heard an ad for it, I sure did. Didn't know the details but holy red flags, batman

[@saratsuki777]

Even though i didn't really see the red flags, at least i don't recall seeing any. I hardly go online shopping enough to justify or even care about getting something like honey. maybe i'd've fallen for it if i shopped more, or maybe I just immediately saw it as just something to ignore and blocked it out too quickly to spot any red flags. either way, i dodged one HELL of a bullet lmfao

[@0neDoomedSpaceMarine]

An amazing amount of people didn't stop to think _"Hey, is this too good to be true?"_

[@robertnomok9750]

@@saratsuki777 They promised to find you best coupons for free and it is a browser extension. Thats like 2 red titanics right here.

[@MDeal-lr8lr]

I know Honey and whatever the predecessors were named would show up on even the most basic "adware" scanners back in the day lol

[@wck]

To be honest, something like Honey could potentially work really, really well. The main issue with Honey, from a consumer standpoint, was that it wasn't providing THE BEST COUPON DEALS. The consumer doesn't care that content creators were losing affiliate link revenue. That part is irrelevant to the vast majority of Honey's users. The only change Honey really needs to make is this: Stop working with online shops to limit user's potential savings. They can take all the affiliate link revenue they want as long as they're genuinely finding us the best working promo codes. Do not screw over your users. Go ahead and screw over influencers and online shops, but not the users.

[@Jobocan.]

Ublock is still where it's at. Open-source, community-driven, seemingly nothing weird about it like Honey. Good shit. Hopefully they clear up whatever issue they're having with the Chrome store or maintain a way to distribute and get it installed. Honey needs something similar. Open-source, community-driven, doesn't steal from people, just applies coupons. For free. Not-for-profit.

[@chrs-wltrs]

The system that Ublock (and every competent adblocker) uses to integrate with the browser is being deliberately removed because Google doesn't want adblockers to exist. Maybe Ublock will find something else, but it will be in spite of the Chrome dev's interference, and not with their help.

[@LordXadro]

@@chrs-wltrs Brave browser promised to support ublock even after chrome stops supporting it.

[@hensiepensie]

Yeah Google is trying to remove ad blockers, so they changed the rules after the took the monopoly, people should use other browsers so Google can't force this, but people are comfort creatures with no concept of the importance of free choice, so they will give up freedom for comfort....

[@Dylanfrias24]

User firefox

[@hensiepensie]

@Jobocan. hahaha youtube you don't like me spitting truths huh, Google monopolized the browser market, and then forces ad block to not work on their monopolized browser, don't use chrome to prevent monopoly by googl3

[@fellowninja]

Any time you have a business about “being the middleman” for something you don’t actually need, you have a shady, greedy business.

[@miketheninja13]

"Corporate needs you to find the difference between this picture and this picture" meme

[@chilomine839]

I must be a cave man by internet standards cuz I avoid every new app and product until I have no choice but to use it to access some important work related thing.

[@SkyeonX]

I kept getting those pie adblocker ads I heard “make money from ads” and immediately felt that it was too good to be true

[@jpkellerman7056]

I don't believe in blocking all ads automatically, I also don't believe in forcing people to watch ads that they aren't interested in. All ads should be skippable immediately then you can watch ads that interest you without being forced to watch ads for products you're not interested in.

[@jomama8895]

rule of thumb is when something is referred to as "the people's" its for sure not for the people

[@kanukistani2984]

Its pretty much a guarantee that anything getting shilled by every influencer is probably a scam.

[@___IG]

Pretty much probably a guarantee

[@wck]

Affiliate links inherently are a scam. Think about it: someone who isn't the marketplace or the seller is getting a % of your purchase while providing you, the consumer, nothing of value. I want that money! The internet would be such a better place without affiliate link revenue-sharing. Cut them out, and give me a discount on the product instead of paying some influencer or other entity. Btw, affiliate links are also why it's near impossible to find faithful and honest websites that offer product suggestions. It's always unreliable because websites are financially incentivized to shill whatever brand that offers the best affiliate link revenue share.

[@XDrang93]

Pie has some of the most aggressive advertising I've seen on KZbin lately.

[@exodore2000]

It's advertising on youtube that is clearly against youtube's terms of service and if it works now be sure youtube will block it eventually.

[@tacgenesis2356]

I have premium and have since release so I've never heard of them till now

[@tonyslicer7399]

The new one is gonna be called grandma cookies 😉 😂

[@elzpiko]

Ive blocked this ad manually hundreds of times yt wont show me other ads refuses to change will only show pie ad after pie ad

[@mckinleyostvig7135]

What's insane is I've seen no ads for it and hadn't heard of it until this video

[@Lurker_Z]

The problem with apps like this (even if they didn't advertise themselves as LA trusted, which is an instant no for me) is that they immediately give off the impression of an IRL money glitch. I can understand donation supported, indie ad-blockers who give you a service for free and only require enough money to keep afloat. I can NOT understand a for-profit company which *gives you money* for *shutting down ads.* They're obvious not doing this out of kindness since they're *for profit.* So there has to be something *really* nefarious under the hood for them to get enough money to stay afloat, enough money to supposedly pay *you* _and_ enough money to keep a company profitable. And chances are, they're not going to milk the multi-billion dollar companies or even content creators because that comes with _complications._ So what's left is the actual user.

[@GESD_Gaming]

I didn't have a problem with KZbin serving ads to help pay for the service or with creators putting in sponsor segments. I started to get annoyed when both started happening. Then KZbin started serving 2,3,4, and 5 ads per video, so I installed AdBlock and began scrubbing through the sponsor segments.

[@ChrisEsc-r7v]

Merry Christmas everyone 🎄

[@CHRISTOS369]

Henlo

[@brak1296]

Merry Christmas, fren

[@blueducky35]

M Xmas

[@Inderastein]

And a Happy New Year! Speaking from 2025... Get ready.

[@Callum_009]

Merry Christmas

[@SayItWithASM]

I thought it was weird that I was getting ads for adblockers like Pie when youtube themselves are the ones cracking down on them.

[@thevalkyrieog]

uBlock origin will always be on top.

[@SayItWithASM]

@@thevalkyrieog facts

[@AP_2-3]

@@thevalkyrieog But pie is one of the only ad blocks that actually blocks ads on twitch

[@thevalkyrieog]

@@AP_2-3 idk about you but i never see ads on twitch lmfao. stop trying to defend pie. its clearly a scam.

[@denzelbronson9095]

How do you get ads on twitch ? Iv watched about 24 hrs never had an ad ever.

[@UndeadPoli]

the issue is places like KZbin and Twitch overserve ads for a 30 minute video ill have 15-20 mins of adds its ridiculous and if they want us to stop using adblockers then they need to get over themselves and actually stop serving so many pointless ads

[@nsramen3624]

🧢

[@Goatfer]

I just had an unskippable 30 second ad on a 17 second video. This is the crap that makes ad blockers necessary.

[@infinitygamer-un4qq]

Exact who is the idiot that buy stuff from a ad 😂😂😂

[@Gamer1288]

It is worse when they are dumb enough to send me Ads in Foreign Languages that I don't understand too.

[@infinitygamer-un4qq]

@@Gamer1288 vpn maby

[@613harbinger316]

Any time I'm inundated by ads for something or some service by a bunch of people I don't know telling me "trust me, you NEED this" I instantly distrust and ignore. It's like those scam product pages with the flashing red text and "only 10 units left! order before it's too late!" BS. I automatically hate them. It's a great defense mechanism.

[@Zetherior]

Just wait till they start playing ads at traffic lights.. then increase the time on the red so you watch more ads.

[@myrrous4284]

This is a huge problem in the modern world. People talk about corporate greed, but your average person would engage in this without hesitation if they could pull it off. The digital landscape is rife with scams, like too many ticks on a dog

[@circlehook7743]

Not one explanation how this is a scam....

[@0neDoomedSpaceMarine]

@@circlehook7743 They withhold better coupons and also go out of their way to basically steal referral commissions from sponsored creators who worked to actually get them.

[@tehSunBro]

There is a video about it, but the gist of it is: Honey reroutes the affilitate links to go to itself, so if you click on a link from lets say Linus Media, to buy a PC, honey takes that money instead of LTT. Also doesn't matter if the affiliate link is sponsored by honey or not, honey will allways get the affiliate money. Noboy gives a shit about that. The other thing is, honey is paid by buisinesses to not give you the best codes, They give you a 10% code, when there is a 30% code on the internet you could use instead, and the business pays honey so you don't know. The whole idea behind honey is that you no longer need to search yourself, thats the thing people care about.

[@alexanderjamesaustin]

I knew something was fishy about an ad for an adblocker

[@uni-minichromi]

If it’s free, you’re the product.

[@brodrickflowers117]

I hadn't seen any adverts about Honey, but I've been seeing CONSTANT advertising PIE legit every 2 to 3 video on KZbin

[@AceMachine5]

Yeah it's been getting extreme, and I know for a fact youtube isnt giving me ads on an adblocker without a clear reason.

[@TheOmnipresentNerd]

"No Adblock?"

[@arowhead9]

just use brave and never watch adds they are 80% scam

[@wompastompa3692]

>still getting ads

[@brodrickflowers117]

@@TheOmnipresentNerd not on my phone, no. Only see ads through the KZbin app

[@minime1988]

It's oddly convenient that suddenly my Adblocker is not working and all the ads I'm being served are like 80% PIE ads...

[@suminshizzles6951]

Are you on chrome? Use firefox. Ditch chrome. Start thinking abotu ditching windows as well as they are also now getting into the data collection and processing business rather than makign an OS that runs well.

[@unkarsthug4429]

The big problem with companies like ground news is, that they don't account for their own bias. I agree, it's good to extend out of your bubble, but when we can't agree where the center is, (or when the center moves with time), it makes any source trying to be unbiased unreliable in deciding their bias.

[@griffinith]

I saw those Pie ads before I saw the other video about honey and immediately thought that it was more or less an ad swap. They get paid for ads, show them to the user, and take their cut while tossing back a few cents to their good little ad watchers. Much like how honey doesn't always find deals, pie would 'unfortunately' not be able to block all ads, while serving their own.

[@Goatfer]

Of course he's going to do it again. He made $1,500,000,000 after selling his last scam program to PayPal. Since he's now rich, laws don't apply to him.

[@Momogamer9]

Yep

[@AnnieluLucy]

Wasn't it $4 billion?

[@Goatfer]

@@AnnieluLucy Each co-founder got 1.5 and the last 2 billion was split between the rest of the team.

[@JimAdventures]

I've seen so many ads for Pie and all I thought is that it looks like a scam. I've reported several of the ads for it.

[@SuperLifestream]

The only problem with Honey was that it screwed over creators and hid better deals. If the consumer still got the discount the consumer doesn't care. I personally think that if a coupon exists the product should be that price. Americans and their coupon system is fucked. Only time I've ever seen a coupon is on the back of recipes from chain stores for 10% of tyres or some crap

[@mbburry4759]

It is screwing the consumer: if consumer is told via advertising and believes honey is getting them the best available coupon code, and theres often a better one a simple google search would yeild... dumb consumer, dumb system - yes indeed, still it falls under false advertising (scam or at least scammy ) @@SuperLifestream

[@Reelix]

Reporting ads doesn't actually do anything. The option is just there to make the user feel better about themselves.

[@4markie]

​@@Reelix I have come to the same conclusion

[@Gamer1288]

11:13 People hate Ads not because they exist but because there are WAY too many. THAT is why so many people use Adblockers.

[@justSunny7]

Too many and too long. That's why people despise Twitch and YT is slightly more bearable because most times you can skip the ads

[@agamersinsanity]

they pretty much cover the whole page and the ads are really intrusive in every way possible.

[@wnxvlakorados4808]

Backed by google, it will be the first ad you see usually after disabling ublock.

[@RetroNook]

I stay clear of anything any influencer promotes/recommends. I don't buy into hype and it has served me well.

[@suminshizzles6951]

Same here. I am laughing my rear end off. I saw all those faces implicated whom i avoid anyway. Watch that peddler of ads linus? GTFO. That idiot with the long brown hair and beard who does nothing but talk crap for an hour? Dont watch him either. I dont even know his name. I dont care. Start out a clip with "this video is brough to you by" and i hit the back button knowing you sold out already and have no morals anymore. Baked in mid-roll ads i have to skip over and they are all over the place. I dont bother watching you anymore. I am not the product to be sold.

[@reklin]

Avoiding a product merely because I saw an advertisement for it would stupid. Just remember to treat it with the same level of skepticism as any other new product. I think before I buy, and it has served me well.

[@GlupSloppo]

THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

[@MMPICT]

Simple: ignore all ads from creators or anywhere else. Another tip: if something is free... maybe you are the product? :)

[@AP_2-3]

Bro it's just an ad block

[@Verårtu]

all of vpn sells your data. I use orbot for my mobile device simple app anf very strong vpn

[@Kikikikikikikikikikik]

Well you are an exception to a rule. Most people dont go to these lengths to secure thier data.​@@Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0000

[@Tobez]

"PIE" was also originally categorized as a FOOD advertisement. But after reports that changed for some of their ads. Other ads are still improperly categorized, seems like they are intentionally misleading Google.

[@nej2147]

The idea of Pie will never work, advertisers will see that they get less return on their investments than the competition, start checking the service themselves and find that the only people that watch the ads are "Ad-farmers" (Trademark pending /s), that are not actually buying their products and stop using the service. Ad-farmers will also start using bots to get money and that will remove even more return for any potential "investors" (ie: ad companies). Unless they make the service into something that they are not advertising it as currently, the whole idea is pretty dead in the water. (IMHO)

[@DerWarHammerTyp]

Now we just need a browser extension named CREAM. So we all can enjoy a HONEY CREAM PIE!

[@robster7787]

“Ooh, girl, don't you stop Don't you stop 'til you get enough” The starting lyrics are basically a good representation of the situation

[@supplantermusic9413]

chill out unc u bout old ashell with that uglahh reference

[@riachuelo4340]

"Trusted" and "LA based company" should never be in the same sentence.

[@livedandletdie]

I trust this guy's opinion he has Fissure as a profile picture, he plays Yu-Gi-Oh! therefore he's rich, and his opinion is valid. He knows a scam when he sees one, after all he spends $1000s on cardboard with pictures on them every 3 months. He is constantly scammed but at least that scam is enjoyable.

[@fahkapremo]

WHY NOT!?! it actually makes PERFECT sense, if a company wants me to watch their ads, they should PAY ME for it, IM doing the watching of their ads. why should a company waste someones time without paying them for it

[@ahettinger525]

The problem is there is ALSO a tipping point where ads become so invasive that everyone uses ad blocker. I didn't used to use it because I wanted to support creators, but they just got too intrusive.

[@michaelthayer5351]

I thought it was suspicious literally every ad I've seen the last month was for Pie, since that business model shouldn't be nearly profitable to pay for that. Now it makes sense.

[@Jimmy_socks]

"whys everyone freaking out over ads, like chill guys just use pie" *silent rage boiling*

[@circlehook7743]

then explain why and how its a scam. the video doesn't say anything

[@respectdat1]

@@circlehook7743 It's a scam for the websites that host the advertisements, since they don't receive the money from the companies for the advertisements that are blocked or hijacked by Pie. Also applies for any content creators that facilitate advertisements in their videos. However, as far as the user is concerned? I'm not so certain. It's just one of those "too good to be true" moments, with the added fact that it is being run by people who have made an already-known scam, is what makes people skeptical. If a scam wasn't good, everyone would be able to see right through it.

[@USELESSDCK]

​@@circlehook7743 It replaces ads with their own ads. You still get ads.

[@southernsage00]

@@circlehook7743nobody is saying it’s an outright scam. The point is one of the founders of Honey are involved and seeing that Honey is a scam, then why use Pie? Do we really have to explain that if they’re claiming it’s free AND you’re getting paid, that they’re selling your data? Ppl seem to not care about this until their ID is stolen 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@Xkorpitron]

i disagree on 12:47, literacy isnt falling apart, you can teach a child how to read, but you cant teach a child to understand what it's reading, and how it feels about it, and i think the basic understanding of what you read, it's based on experiences you seen through life, or through other people explaining to you, on how they feel, as a toddler you dont understand words, cuz you look at letters, form words, say basic words, as the years go by, your basic understanding begins to grow, people read books, not only to expand their vocabulary, but to also understand multiple sides of imaginary worlds, and feelings of fictional characters, sometimes a story is told, and as i read that story, i also want to understand every single thing from that book, that's why, people call it immersion.

[@Wanderer-q6e]

I can't help but notice that "Pie" is possibly named that way to piggyback on the "Pi Hole" ad blocker's name.

[@jameson3500]

An ad for an ad-blocker? Really youtube? I've had ads slip by between updates, and it's always pie...

[@mmmmemems4068]

You shouldn’t give your data to everyone just to skip ads or pretend to save money

[@halfounce]

they are not gonna stop until they make a full dessert

[@PepinHello]

So basically this so called "ad-blocker" takes ads away and adds their own. That's the only way they could share revenue with users that I can think of.

[@madtech5153]

basically brave rewards in Brave browser

[@kopsi.]

I never used affiliate links for products, but I’m curious how many times when the honey app popped up saying “hey I got nothin” really meant they were taking credit on a sale they shouldn’t have even had credit for.

[@Martynas954]

if a company is saying that you are getting money by doing nothing, 99.99% chance it is a scam and is doing something behide the scenes

[@treedoor]

It can't be a total coincidence that Google breaks adblockers for KZbin earlier this year, and then PIE shows up, right? While it does sound like Google would be hurt by PIE on paper, I feel like there's something we're still missing here.

[@highlordlaughterofcanada8685]

When at first you don't succeed, try the same thing again under a different name.

[@Warfoki]

I mean, they succeeded, though. They sold off the first creation for 4 billion dollars...

[@thecrackin-u8p]

Problem is it succeeded...well

[@HoryzonPlaysTM]

4:20 it literally says its made by the people who made honey

[@Grasnek]

I only just watched this.. It's been changed to just "Proudly built in Los Angeles" now.. Also: all those pictures and names of the employees have been removed from their about page now. "Crap, we've been made!" "But we could keep the page/extension about, just see how much we can still rake in?"

[@dr4gonstear]

While I agree that KZbin should be allowed to serve ads, I detest the way they go about doing it. A 6 second ad is more impactful to me than a 30 unskippable. In fact, I keep getting served a 4 minute unskippable “wellness” ad that forces me to reload the page to “skip”. That company is now blacklisted on my router. If KZbin continued to serve 6-15 second ads, and just left it alone, I wouldn’t go out of my way to remove them from my internet experience. Instead they got greedy, and now I’m a pirate. Argh.

[@xXzennerXx]

There is a way to not watch full ads by closing and opening the video on KZbin until it opens without ads.

[@Anok-w8n]

Paying for ads to advertise a company blocking ads

[@utmastuh]

I'm sick of these ads. Annoy the hell out of people with ads for an adblocker. Create the problem amd solution

[@may]

I was not expecting the honey plot twist

[@joshg.4553]

A lot of people opted out of cable because of the excessive commercials. Online platforms won't be immune to this.

[@aty57]

It's not too hard to find the connections since they are so open about it honestly. I've been telling my friends about the issues with Honey and PIE for sometime, but it's nice that it's getting a wiser audience to them.

[@PokemanOkie]

Is this why I keep getting Pie ads on youtube? I removed honey.

[@ZomgZomg007]

Linus tech tips knew about this 2 years and kept quiet lol

[@alexwayne163]

They make money of it obviously.

[@Grasnek]

​@@alexwayne163 How does LTT make money off of dropping Honey as a sponsor? They STOPPED making money 2 years ago when they found out.

[@unknownvariable2456]

whaaaaaaaat? the thing being advertised the most BY FAR on a platform that was already on the edge of outright banning users for using that same thing now being advertised ISN'T all sunshine and rainbows? seriously, how brain dead would you have to be to fall for that "WE HATE THIS WE HATE THIS YOU NEED TO STOP DOING THI- oh this is so fun and lovely, you should definitely do this! no really, cmon, we'll even pay you!~" -KZbin

[@minecraftvsmasterz]

That’s crazy. I’ve been getting those pie ads non-stop. Ads don’t bother me, but when it’s the same one that I could care less about over and over it’s annoying. Ironic how a some vpn ad blocker is like the most funded ad on a site that makes its money from ads. It has to be a very strong money making method for both pie and KZbin.

[@nightsheart6929]

KZbin could address the ad problem by implementing a system where if you watch five ads, you receive 24 hours of ad-free viewing for that day.

[@justSunny7]

They won't do that because they want people to pay for premium

[@33pandagamer]

I got a degree in Graphic Design which is closely related to advertising. I'd say about 80-90% of what a Graphic Designer works on is ads. So I know a lot about the importance of ads. Without ads it would be like opening up your store in the middle of an uninhabited desert, you'd be extremely lucky to get anyone to show up to your store. So to anyone who says ads are not important, I challenge you to open up a business without any form of marketing whatsoever, don't even tell your family or friends about it, and see how well you do.

[@Apipoulai]

60% of the economy is made up of small businesses (mom and pops, neighbourhood store, local factory, etc) they don’t advertise on the major platforms like the creeps of PayPal inc and the like.

[@CHRISTOS369]

Wool sock=New Lucid Dreams♒️🟦🟪

[@stevem8281]

Merry X-Mas🎅

[@nikenit]

Them naming it "Pie" is their way to steal the name of another existing ad blocking solution - "Pi". "Pi-hole" to be exact, it is a famous and relatively popular ad blocking solution you can install as a middleman for your whole home network. It's open-source and free.

[@paulyguitary7651]

I’ve never messed with browser add ons since the early days of the internet. When honey popped off I was like wtf…again?

[@RealTaIk]

15:00 I know tons of people who are subbed to ground news but all of them are politically left or center. Only extremely left and right wing people want to stay in their bubble. And yes, I'm friends with people I don't politcally allign with cause life isn't all about politics.

[@delphithefantastichealer2]

pie has worked as a great adblocker for me personally

[@0neDoomedSpaceMarine]

Why would you trust an adblocker promoted by KZbin?

[@delphithefantastichealer2]

@ i don’t trust or distrust it it’s not that deep it blocks ads so it’s fine by me

[@TheRealXartaX]

I don't care if it's worse for creators. If it's better for me I 100% support it. You guys fight it out. And we definitely would have KZbin if KZbin couldn't serve ads. There was a time when there were no ads on KZbin. Of course, it would prevent people from using it to finance their life using KZbin alone, but the internet would just go back to broadcasting passion projects. Win win in my book.

[@thatbloomer5642]

Now, that's just selfish. The reality is, now a lot of people's lives are dependent on KZbin, for better or worse. You can't dismissed their livelihoods just because. It's KZbin's job to bring balance between providing the best for creators and audiences.

[@TheRealXartaX]

@@thatbloomer5642 Yes I can. Not my problem.

[@thatbloomer5642]

@@TheRealXartaX hope you share that same sentiment when you were treated that way.

[@TheRealXartaX]

@@thatbloomer5642 Don't care

[@Kyydon]

You wouldn’t even be watching this video if your scenario was reality

[@damiennewman1992]

I love when Asmon does the 'you're not going to stop watching' as I watch from KZbin instead of twitch specifically because of their insane amount of ads.

[@lumpy1603]

"Just the whole thing" had me dying 🤣

[@Stankfish420]

8=D

[@CHRISTOS369]

1 Min Gang

[@mopower6753]

I'm here for it.

[@gordonhadsall6749]

No life gang

[@CHRISTOS369]

@@gordonhadsall6749that’s you! 👇👆

[@RealShimSham]

Unpopular opinion: I kinda love what honey and pie is doing. I'm sick of ads and sponsors, so honey/pie stealing money from the people that usually profit from them is kinda awesome. It's really funny to me that these content creators, who waste my time with sponsorships, end up loosing money because of it.

[@Kyydon]

Yeah it’s an unpopular opinion bc it’s a dogshit opinion

[@krakvakuk2635]

Why do you watch KZbinrs that waste your time in the first place?

[@danielsimms4262]

What is wrong with you?

[@AM-in8gh]

What are you talking about that YT wouldn't be around without ads? It was at its peak at the beginning when it didn't have ads. Then the censorship came in with the ads.

[@goose5450]

"The people's internet experiment" "To see if they'll fall for this shit again-"

[@justinw.anisman6154]

"Don't fuck with me. I know my shit". This man's got a good lawyer.

[@nautdead3197]

The reason i block ads isn't becausr i hate the idea of seeing ads its that if i don't i see the same ads hundreds of times. If i saw an ad couple of times and never had to see it again i wouldn't care enough to block them

[@justsomejerseydevilwithint4606]

An adblock supposedly made by or facilitated by Google, the company that owns the company that's banning adblock, youtube, is SUUUUPER sketchy.

[@xiangghost554]

It's so good Asmon, with his huge audience, watches these videos so

[@Kastellium]

Honey, Pie... Imma make my own called Waffles at this point 😂