Have You Noticed Everyone Only Plays Old Games?

Why gamers reject modern games. When was the last time you played a title that came out in 2024?.. what about 2023?
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[@havono_ch]

1. cheaper 2. more accessible 3. years' worth of enjoyment

[@raff3486]

Well said. Back then games were games. Now they are real world bullshit.

[@Lazydino59]

Also years’ worth of patches to make sure it isn’t a buggy rushed shitshow like most games released nowadays

[@havono_ch]

@@Lazydino59 sure, the patches also matter, but I mean, did retro games even have patches?

[@LawfulBased]

I wouldn't say this is true. I do play "new games" when they come out. But they are mostly from Indie teams full of passion and void of _" The Message "_ as the *Critical Drinker* would say.

[@Ecliptor.]

Have you even watched 2 seconds of the video at the time you typed the comment? they consider games from the past decade are "old." Like Fortnite or GTA5.

[@bronzesun21]

Older games are a threat to the current industry. They represent a standard of quality that the current industry refuses to meet or prioritize. This why they assault the ownership of games bought by the consumer.

[@ironboundfate]

No they arent. This video has an identity crisis, and is making a point of a nothing burger. Its literally all live service games that have been taken good care of over the years, and then theres some nintendo games.

[@InternetHydra]

Refuses, or perhaps, and/or can’t? Maybe modern devs just don’t have the knowledge or intellectual capacity to make games good? The amount of spaghetti code and code copypasted from wikis and lack of studio independent engines, a major aspect of older games, certainly speaks ill of the capabilities of the programmers. And the incompetence of the rest of team, well there’s probably thousands of videos covering that now.

[@M_TELEDO1212]

@@ironboundfateYou completely fail to see the bigger picture. Game companies know old games are a threat to new games, a lot of them can't compete on quality anymore. You have to look where things are trending. Games requiring an internet connection, requiring you to be always online, requiring an account with their shitty site, Denuvo, content they can deprecate on a whim, limited number of installs... It's like Todd Howard bursting down your door and taking Skyrim off your shelf because he knows you aren't buying Starfailed.

[@jacobcoates7987]

Same with everything you can buy today. They can't make things to last or you'd never have reason to buy another.

[@firinnegile8164]

Erase quality standards. If the new generation doesn't know how well made games once were, they will get used to whatever crap the modern industry sells to them.

[@thekarenfromhell4110]

I'm tired of gaming companies releasing unfinished games. Then they add microtransactions and DLCs a few months later when that content should've been there in the first place.

[@rohnthom]

A few months later? How about those that have DLC available on release?

[@justanotherhuman1865]

Name checks out

[@teemosapien963]

Bloodbowl 3 for example, it is so sad.

[@MiaKhalifa-mj5xz]

I love how everything 🇺🇸 is going this way. One person pulling all the strings.

[@unknownGoblin]

​@@rohnthom Every ubi game

[@JeyVGaming]

Oh thank god, I thought it was only me. I've been playing classic games like Red Alert 2, Burnout 3, NFS Most Wanted (2005), Vigilante 8 & Twisted Metal nowadays. It's the charm of old games that brings enjoyment to me that modern games don't replicate, imo.

[@scottyboatright4615]

Red alert 2 still slaps. Just sucks to use ea launcher lol

[@JeyVGaming]

@@scottyboatright4615 I use CNCNet as my main way to play the game now. Works well on modern system.

[@kacmar6814]

Just wait until your Skyrim phase starts again.

[@gamingsuperun]

Even the DS ports of the NFS games went hard. If you remember the quality of DS versions of console games, you will realise how crazy this is

[@JeyVGaming]

@@gamingsuperun I didn't played the DS version but I did play and liking the GBA version of NFS U2 and Underground Rivals on PSP. Those were strange and simple times.

[@anab0lic]

Most of the newer games just feel like worse version of something i already played before.

[@TheForbiddenOne55]

Lol yup. Stripped down experiences with mtx storefronts thrown in your face

[@Virtualblueart]

@@TheForbiddenOne55 Yep, even the “one save slot unless you buy more” thing Metal Gear Survive pulled is back again. Hell, even fast travel and character respec is a Mtx in Dragons Dogma 2.

[@TheSmartCinema]

the popularity of "old school" versions or HD remasters of old JRPGs is a clear example of that sentiment amongst players

[@alechill2175]

​@Virtualblueart tell me you've never played dragons dogma without telling me smh you just believe anything people tell you on the internet huh? Lmao

[@garrettviewegh9028]

I simply like older games too. Some new ones, but often, I find myself playing indies or AA. But I really love games like Galaga or PAC-MAN. Even more obscure ones, like Mappy are fun on a rainy day.

[@starwin4000]

Most of the time, older games respect our time far more then any modern live service.

[@actuallyKriminell]

modern day games try to capture you. So you grind and play all day, and whenever a bit of frustration is sprinkled in you are close to the shop button

[@walkonstilts1]

And some games just don’t need a replacement. I’ve played rocket league for years. Nothing that comes out that is similar will get any traction. Why would I ever play Different league. The game play is great, anything worth me trying out would have to be so different it’s not even a direct competitor. The closest thing I could think of would be a game like Twisted Metal, but that’s not even the same genre. It’s battling with cars not sports and acrobatics with cars.

[@noBody-ue6cs]

They respect our wallets too

[@baronsengir187]

@@actuallyKriminell I like it when games capture me. Through immersion that is.

[@ZombieJig]

And they don't require a $2000 video card

[@thespiralgamer5374]

Old game didn’t have bullshit from SBI shoved into them.

[@NeonBearClaw]

Warcraft 3, Age Of Empires, Starcraft, Rise of Nations. I mean, cmon.

[@NeonBearClaw]

@@tigerden1908 I still play it to this day. An incredible game

[@dingickso4098]

Empire Earth 1-2, Command & Conquer games, Imperium Galactica II

[@NeonBearClaw]

@@tigerden1908 Starcraft 2, Age of Empires IV, Warcraft 3 remastered, NorthGard

[@iamwhoiam7887]

​@NeonBearClaw it's Reforged... 😢

[@NeonBearClaw]

@@iamwhoiam7887 Well, yeah. Semantics.

[@yourfeedYT]

It’s because old games aren’t worried about NPC skin texture technology. But they focus on actual gameplay mechanics. Devs have become technology enthusiasts vs game developers.

[@djtoxicdhg]

Mines fortnight

[@AQS521]

Great games will maximize both.

[@Prince_Mammon]

​@djtoxicdhg fortnight is really an odd one out because "old game" implies that the games are much older and usually the assumption they stopped getting big updates and usually just recieve small ones. Fortnight hasn't even been out for a full 6 years yet.

[@liamconverse8950]

Skins seem like a pretty big focus for fortnite actually

[@aithjawcraig9876]

I think of a million games released in the last couple years that are a way better time investment than Fortnite

[@theslavicexperience]

In Eastern Europe people still play Counter Strike 1.6 and servers are full.

[@akojic5486]

Still playing in 2024 😁 I love zombie maps 😁

[@ketsi3079]

With rtx 4090

[@dougler500]

@@ketsi3079 Why settle for anything sub 2500 fps these days I mean honestly

[@notmyrealname977]

They're playing irl counterstrike now

[@ketsi3079]

@@dougler500 but refuse to pay 70$ game

[@davidsabo405]

New games are too gay

[@n8t3b1t6]

You mean you’re not a fan of trans black samurai assassins creed ?

[@kxngmusical7065]

@@n8t3b1t6guess thats what he means bro

[@blacktemplar5970]

Helldivers is good fun but its already starting to panda

[@user-bz5io6ph8w]

No, don't bring you culture war to our games. Just stop!

[@betelgeux6010]

@@user-bz5io6ph8w it has been in games for ages now, lol. just take a look around stormwind city in wow or the end of telltales TWD games

[@D8nnyJ]

Literally spent hours last night playing Tetris on the Gameboy. My best mate literally said the other day "I just want to play a simple game. Too many new ones now are so epic and demand so much time".

[@DavidBoggs-pk8nr]

1:Complete experience 2:Focused more on gameplay 3:Usually optimized through time. 4:cheaper to buy 5:Many have no store, or items to pruchase of any meaningful value.

[@im1085]

Wow that really sounds like fortnite. You know the game thats shown to be the most played old game on this list

[@BG1435q]

@@im1085 lmfao. when i opened this i thought actual old games from 90s and early 2000s not these shit games how is gta v old? didnt that come out like 3 4 years ago?

[@nonameno5717]

Well i mean 2013 is pretty long ago ​@BG1435q

[@andrewb138]

@@BG1435qhate to break this to you, gta 5 is over a decade old.

[@lumenart7328]

@@andrewb138 bro don't tell him that he's about to age fifty years from that statement alone!

[@Downgrade87]

I dont want to buy the $120 preorder ultimate gold premium delux edition and buy a season pass, a subscription, and extra $60 dlc for an unfinished/bad game that will die next weekend

[@Retroloft556]

I remember when a GOTY version of a game came automatically with everything the game had to offer. Usually in the used section for $20.

[@ketsi3079]

But people are willing to upgrade 2000$ GPU every 1-2 years

[@DigitalM_M]

​@ketsi3079 thing is, most gamers resell cards before their 2nd hand value falls to much. Last time I sold a 970 for 200 bucks, bought a 2070 for 300 from zotac with a Newegg coupon. Now that nvidia has inflated msrp to insane levels that may not happen as often anymore.

[@eliaslaban]

​​​@@ketsi3079who the fuck in their right mind upgrades a gpu for that much every 1-2 years. For less than 2000 dollars you would have bought a 2080 TI in 2018 and its still better than a 3070 TI by a small margin. Thats 6 years.. Same goes for other GPUs of its caliber, nowadays. They will last for 3-4 years if not more depending on your needs.

[@Overdozeme]

@@eliaslabanpeople with money lol

[@lithiumwhiskey1891]

I wish Steam on the store page for games as well as on steam charts tracked the average amount of hours in games based on people who own it, as well as the total number of hours put into said games of all players combined. That would be a real way of showing what games truly see play and how much.

[@DomLoganGRP]

i get that but they would never, ever release that information because it directly informs their sales and pricing models

[@zbigniew2628]

You have something like steamdb....

[@Imperatia]

1. If I want to throw away my money, I have a perfectly functional trash can, furnace & toilet at home. There's no point for me to think up an elaborate scheme to get rid of it. 2. If I want to throw away my time, I could always just walk in a circle outside of the house and I'm sure it'd be more fun than a lot of those time-waste simulators. And I'd get some exercise, which is a tangible benefit. ------ They have nothing to offer & grab at both my money and my lifespan, so I have no use for them. Meanwhile, there's still tons of old games I haven't played. The backlog is pretty large.

[@WateringDNami]

Noting jiggles tho

[@worldz_of_visions]

You sound like me 😆

[@user-gi7vi9gm4t]

@@WateringDNami well if you want that you can just make your own simulator for that, or better do it yourself

[@EpicJones1]

You can usually get 9/10 games for dirt cheap. They won't all be triple A titles, but a lot of games that came out years ago could slap the shit out of new titles today.

[@Raz0rking]

I got Days Past for 9 bucks a few days ago, and holy fuck, the ROI is bonkers. I have loads of fun

[@mica_s]

right?! been playing thief that got for free on epic store and it's really polished. As a dishonored diehard fan it looks pretty similar and by that i say that graphics is outstanded by quality

[@Quazzi]

It’s not true though, the top 5 games in the last 5 years are at least as good as the top 5 games in any other given 5 year timespan

[@Immortal2022]

I started playing Jetset Radio for the original Xbox recently. Low poly platformers are a great damn time and don't cost $70.

[@justadictatorridingonanuke3714]

Some cheap games I recommend and how much they cost me roughly (don't remember the exact numbers because i bought most of them a while ago) Bioshock collection £10 AC Ezio Collection £12 AC Syndicate, Black Flag and Unity collection £16 Most other AC games including the massive RPGs usually under £20 Witcher 3 £5 Jedi Fallen Order £12 but I have seen it drop lower to roughly £5 Titanfall 2 Ultimate Edition £4 Resident Evil 2 and 3 Remake £14 Batman Arkham Collection £8 All of these I recommend people play and they are worth way more than they are priced. Also some of them aren't that old. The biggest steals are probably the witcher 3, batman arkham collection and jedi fallen order in terms of number of hours per pound spent

[@orangegalen]

Don’t want to pay $70 for an unfinished base game they intentionally removed content from so they can sell it to you for an extra $30-50 in the Deluxe Golden Complete Premium Diamond Special Platinum Collection with ‘half-day’ early access and a “special mission” and “exclusive skin” both of which will inevitably be re-available in the 3rd Season of the Battle Pass (which you’ll have to spend another $10-30 on, depending if you get the normal or Elite Pass), forced to buy gems/credits/etc from their fully-working-at-launch shop to get the items I need to ACTUALLY play the game rather than spend hours grinding enough materials so I don’t immediately run out of stuff in the first mission, then pay more for DLCs which add the other intentionally removed content that should’ve been in the base game to make it fun.

[@dewinter1411]

This just about covers it! Truth!

[@TheUnseenKrab]

I thought of Overwatch when reading your comment God I hate what's become of that game.

[@DeputyFish]

@@TheUnseenKrab i thought of diablo 4. but i guess thats just blizzard

[@Klongu_Da_Bongu]

Yeah another thing is that "skins" don't exist anymore in games. You get very "common" skins, like for example turning gun/uniform light blue or something. All to entice you to buy the big skins for 2.99 (Or in the case of Warcraft, 30 dollars). The smaller skins you get are more common and only there to entice you to buy the pretty skins. There is no more "Do these challenges and unlock the Harlequin suit" or something.

[@piotrmajewski5978]

There should be also unskippable ads lecturing about you beeing previleged to play this game. Japan and Korea save us from western gaming cancer...

[@ColdGhost01]

I just love games of the old days. Warcraft 3, Command & Conquer, Age of Empires, Resident Evil, Arma 2... we really had it all, golden era of gaming. I haven't bought new games in long time with the exception of Helldivers 2 since it's pretty dope and I haven't seen anything like it in while, also 40€ for a game that gives CoD a run for their money is a welcome change.

[@ralphjames1211]

I still play single-player games like TES-III: Morrowind, TES-IV: Oblivion, and both Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask, Pac-Man World, Crash Bandicoots I, II and Warped, Ray-Man Adventures, GTA SA, and HALO I! I also like playing old school ATARI games and Commodore 64 games as well!

[@bigdot2355]

I 100% tell you these Triple A Publishers don't even play their games that's how you know it ain't made with love or passion just corporate greed.

[@Kratos-eg7ez]

Duh, of course most big publishers don't care, they didn't used to care either. What changed and is way more important is that even the studios themselves and the devs who are the ones developing the games don't play it! That is a big change. In fact, we see all the time studios who HATE their audience, and actively attacks them. Same goes for some devs, writers, etcetera, they actively attack their own players in order to pander to others and push their world view based in mental illness. I mean what do we think is going to happen when someone who hates us develops a game for people who dont even want to play their game, and a game that they don't care about or even play.

[@blank2541]

@@Kratos-eg7ez Studios attacking their own audience isn't much of an issue imo. What matters is the devs listening to their audience. Fallout 3 ignored the fanbases of fallout 1 and 2, because they just wanted to make another Oblivion. Whereas Obsidian, devs who came from CRPG roots, added in those missing story telling elements in New Vegas, fulfilling the demand. Guess what game receives endless praise on KZbin, all with millions of views each. Nexus has 600mil downloaded mods for New Vegas and 150m for Fallout 3.

[@ilvanezzo]

Ummm, it's Quadruple A now, thankyouverymuch /s

[@ExeErdna]

That's how we got Redfall and Phil looking dumb founded it failed. Like how didn't he know he shilled the game and then we found out he didn't even look into it until after it failed.

[@PoliticalPunchers]

Literally the problem. This is why indie game industry is rising. We actually listen to our players feedback and get involved in the community. AAA don't care just ran by boards and investors.

[@Xx_Shadow_xX-l4d]

Playing Bully on PS5. Whole game, earn all cosmetics in game and a full experience. Superior to all current open world games, only 10 bucks

[@TheSweatyYeti]

My favorite Rockstar game. So good

[@All_Hail_Chael]

100% a masterpiece. I want a good remake, my brain can't cope with that old camera movement.

[@brownwallet942]

Warriors is the superior Rockstar game. I finished Bully 100% and never looked back. The world of that game felt empty after finishing it. Warriors on the other hand have some crazy content. After finishing the game, you unlock an arcade beat em up version that's equally fun

[@donquixotedoflamingo5510]

I still play Bully and San Andreas too lol

[@nateypoo]

I've only really played GTA3 a ton back in the day, would I like Bully?

[@popcultureprogrammer2171]

I'm a big Team Fortress fan whos sunk thousands of hours into it. It's one of the best games ever created and takes thousands of hours of mastery to truly appreciate its depth, its intricacies - everything. Obviously, a game that old does not garner the largest playerbase so it really doesn't matter how good I am, but I still enjoy maining Spy and my main reason for sticking around for so long is because of the depth of the game and the infinite potential of improving. Despite Valve's failings in maintaining TF2, it still continues to have some of the most addicting gameplay I've ever seen. Despite being 17 years old, abandoned for 7 of those years, but still garnering a community of hundreds of thoudands is a testament to its design. Its glory years are obviously over and the game is obviously abandoned with no real chance of getting updated in any major way ever again - but that's okay

[@christopherregan1654]

Almost all the gaming consoles I own are exclusively from the 7th generation (2005-2014) and before. I made one tiny exception for the 8th generation when I bought a PS4, but that was literally only so I could play its exclusives like Bloodborne, The Order 1886, The Last Guardian, Killzone Shadow Fall, and Infamous Second Son.

[@Barkebain]

The one major difference between old and new games - older games were created by devs that wanted to make a fun game - period. All modern AAA games start off as a monetization scheme, then they hire devs to add video game elements to enhance this monetization scheme. Pretty much nobody ever said "I have some time this weekend, I'm gonna play a monetization scheme with video game elements!". Why choose to spend your time on something designed for your credit card as opposed to something designed for your enjoyment?

[@samuraieko5408]

What's crazy is that if they actually just made good games that were fun, they would make tons of money because the entire reason people would want to give you money for a game in the first place is BECAUSE YOUR GAME IS FUN.

[@astrocreepspider9068]

​@@samuraieko5408that's why Helldivers 2 is so popular, it's a fun game. You can purchase cuurency if you want but doesn't really affect the gameplay plus you can make it very easily on your own.

[@actualiygod6782]

Can we stop blaming game devs when it is the publishers fault like most of the time.

[@toriseistofall]

@@actualiygod6782yeah but the developers are their little minions that mindlessly put these things in their games too scared to disagree against the big guy. ITS THEIR FAULT TOO

[@actualiygod6782]

@@toriseistofall they have to work man.

[@idkidk7589]

Maybe I don't wanna buy games that are $70+

[@BrownBox69]

With $20 dlc

[@sjeanmacleod]

And $130 bundles that allow you to play 3 days before release. Gross.

[@lenasdragons2839]

And pay for content to buy in game

[@Makalon102]

Be 2 years in the past, all the games will be cheap, have all their patches done and dlc done

[@hano5277]

With season passes... On release dlc... On release skins that should have been items in the game you get via quests and skill...

[@33feedbacks]

I have a finite amount of time as an adult, so the little time I set aside to play games I hate spending it waiting for updates. I play Switch more than anything else current gen because the games on it are plug and play, minimal if any updates.

[@Paulie8K]

I agree. While I'm not playing games that are decades old, I barely rush out to buy the new releases. I typically wait a few years as I get the games with all their performance patches for way cheaper, and oftentimes with the DLC included. I only buy a few new releases a year and those are games I know ill really enjoy.

[@SurrealFeelz]

In Mario 64 you collect 120 stars and get to see Yoshi. In modern games 120 stars would give you nothing and it would cost $10 to see Yoshi.

[@chasejackson7248]

Then he gives you something you don't need anymore.

[@igorthelight]

Guys, did you played A Hat in Time? ;-)

[@highhonor9443]

@@chasejackson7248well live reset every time you load up a safe so easy 3 1 ups. Make sense to me.

[@jordanstephens4178]

Nah mario oddessy was recent and had tons of content and you can turn into yoshi for free

[@amandaslough125]

​@@jordanstephens4178And half of the content was the equivalent of what previously would have just earned you coins and 1UPs being marketed just as important as meaty challenges.

[@TheLurker1647]

It’s nice being a strategy gamer, because the niche nature of the games tends to keep tourists away. The games gatekeep themselves.

[@AthenaTennosN]

RTS is ded (other than the old diehard communities kept together by people like Grubby). I'm sceptical about the "RTS revival" hypetrain, but we'll find out soon enough. TBS players get charged through their nose - precisely because the genre is even more niche, while the games in it are _not at all_ cheap to make. Especially because Paradox(let's be honest, it's mainly Paradox these days) pays taxes in Sweden...well, that, and they know their main demographic is 25+, probably older, so they have the money. Not super happy about it, but at least I get worthwhile games.

[@MichaelMitreski]

@@AthenaTennosN lol they been saying RTS is de ad for decades now, fact is age of empires 2 is more played than every playstation game on pc, COMBINED!

[@Deadsmegma]

@@AthenaTennosN not really at all, what do you consider rts? Manor lords is and would be considered RTS, and you have that Command and Conquer spirtual successor coming out soon, age of wonders 4 was recent, although more turn based, but turn based and real time tend to go hand in hand.. bg3 is a turn based strategy game.

[@Deadsmegma]

@@MichaelMitreski yeah, its not dead at all.. not in the slightest, average total war players of all total war games combined is over 200k everyday

[@Princey92]

Zero K is the king of RTS and been out so long and all I need.

[@agilitypop6859]

Skyrim, Minecraft and a few others have both been my back n forth since Xbox 360 in 2012 to now on pc because I can have fun on those without spending money where as more modern games play the opposite very heavily.

[@bonic7217]

*Older triple AAA games. Good modern AA games still shine like helldivers 2

[@1990erre]

So if keeping franchises alive is so important, THEN WHY ARE GAMING COMPANIES KILLING OF THEIR OWN PRODUCTS LIKE THIER LIVES DEPENDED ON IT?!

[@user-ue5lb8ot9t]

They are doing this because executives who have no business telling people how to do their jobs are listening to the isolated focus think tanks that really have no idea what people want. Then basing everything off of that

[@idxjdd]

I just think most games aren't made with the passion they used to have.

[@doommaker4000]

Good, keep digging

[@theupperechelon7634]

It's not only gaming companies, unfortunately. The DEI/ESG virus has spread across most industries by HR and marketing activists that are clueless about what it takes to drive a successful company or make a profit. It's like the kids that think that money are unlimited and everything is about them.

[@NecroChungus]

I'm becoming convinced that it's another deliberate effort to destroy or devalue the things that inspire people

[@Jackie89000]

I paid $15 for Stardew Valley and ive gotten far more content from that than any AAA game ive played since then. Really says something about the industry when a 2D pixel graphics farming simulator made by a single guy is still better quality than these multi-million dollar AAA games they are trying to shove down are throats. Edit: I actually spent $45 dollars on SDV because I later bought a copy for PlayStation and switch also. And you'll also commonly find SDV and Terraria for half off on steam.

[@Mousse9]

While I don't remember how much I paid for Stardew Valley, I played for 1583 hours, and counting (started a new run with the 1.6 update). I think I got my money's worth!

[@TheSchnieder6]

$15 for Stardew Valley 6 years ago, free updates. Been playing Terraria with a buddy recently, checked transaction history, bought it 10 years ago for $2.50(!!!), also all free updates. Not counting an idle game(Melvor), those are my 3rd and 6th most played games on Steam, coming up on a nearly combined 1000 hours.

[@hoodly9910]

goated game

[@utubenoob2.095]

Gonna have a look at haunted chocolate factory?

[@EmpressLuna_GT]

@@utubenoob2.095 I know I will!

[@catelynh1020]

I am, or i guess was, a sims player. Started in the early aughts when my older sib finally let me play the game by myself without being worried i'd overwrite her save. Played ever since. Loved the first game and the second came out and was wild and i still loved it. Sims medieval came later and i put hours and hours and hours into it. Same with sims castaway and sims bustin out for ps2. Sims3 was the evolution since it added things like playable pets and an open world. Then came sims4. My compiter couldn't run any of the previous games anymore and i stayed with 3 for as long as i could because 4 felt wrong. They made the game small and empty, so much so that expansion packs were needed to make it feel any bit more lively. They made it easy, too (too easy to make money, sims didn't just randomly die as often, plants wouldn't die after harvests or with the changes of season) and too...safe? No more burglers, no more kids crying after seeing a parent cheat, no more leaving sims at alters or not-so-hidden lore of murderers in town. Yes, they removed the cage dancers and people popping out of cakes by the second game when they realized we weren't adults playing the game, but sim4 was just not good and the fan base keeps giving the game more chances even while every dlc is unfinished and riddled with bugs. And, if i'm to be perfectly honest, if the ea app was actually working on my computer i probably would still go back to the game every few months just to be disappointed again. So i'm playing satisfactory and ghost of tsushima because new to me games just don't feel worth it anymore. I may get 10 hours into a save for timberborn and then i'm done for the month. Oblivion (and skyrim too) had a level cap that i'd run into and restart the game to try something different. And i _want_ to keep playing oblivion except i played it for over 10 years and now i just feel like i've done everything even if my character didn't normally get past level 30.

[@mlc9928]

The current gaming industry managers hate us Gen Y gamers. We’re experienced and smart. We know what good games look and feel like. We know what we want and we make decisions instead of just buying the new game because we can’t see past the “hype”. And we still have our old favorites on physical copy and we do still play them for free. That infuriates them.

[@Michael12111983]

Other factors for playing older games is the fact that you don't have to upgrade your PC in order to be able to play them well

[@josephmaffit6429]

Truth be told, I play mostly older games on my PC which has a 4070TI Super in it and an AMD 5950X. I honestly don't need that kind of power, but until a game comes along that needs that level of power and can go toe to toe with the gameplay and design that older games offer, I really don't care.

[@Iron_Sights99]

My daily driver laptop is 13 years old and runs things like Battlefield 2 beautifully on high graphics despite having the processing equivalent of a modern chromebook, and I absolutely love it.

[@User-1huzf4ljg8]

@@josephmaffit6429Ahah so damn true. I got also a RtX4070Ti and im playin FF7 (Not the remake), Persona etc.. In fact, i didnt think futur games will be so.. Bad. Optimization included.

[@SpiritTapPriest]

Even then, the graphics of old games were the BEST they could offer. Today they just schill out some premade assets on UE5 or w/e. Every game looks the freaking same lol

[@it_is_just_a_volvo]

​@@Iron_Sights99I still play Battlefield 2 too. Also through BF2hub? Amazing game. 😍

[@alexkogan9755]

Modern gaming started going downhill when it started to chase after Hollywood and now they suffer the same problem by way of bloated, mismanaged budgets and boring titles.

[@FREEDOMFIGHTER28s__Left__Dent]

We used to have bad movie games following the storylines of movies with at least liked characters from said movies on the ps2 era. Now we have bad games creating their own bad storyline with unlikable characters.

[@alexkogan9755]

@@FREEDOMFIGHTER28s__Left__Dent Yeah pretty much.

[@jayeisenhardt1337]

@@FREEDOMFIGHTER28s__Left__Dent Peter Jackson's King Kong: The Official Game of the Movie

[@vaan_]

@@FREEDOMFIGHTER28s__Left__Dent it's like poetry, it rhymes

[@EricTD1995]

​@@FREEDOMFIGHTER28s__Left__DentIronic.

[@Ryan-vl2nn]

True, I spend most of my gaming time playing the Castlevania Anniversary Collection and some other NES or SNES games on my Switch. The only new game I’ve purchased lately is Super Mario Wonder.

[@TheFirehands150]

If you think about it, Halo free 4 all (or teams of 2) 16 player multiplayer was a Battle Royal just on a smaller scale

[@justinhunt3141]

This is the reason why many big companies fail to bring anything great to the table. They just play it safe and mostly copy everyone else in the industry. Big companies get too influenced by making money rather than making fun and good games.

[@omarsheriff51]

Just like it was in the last 30 years or so, nothing changed. We had the mario clones, the doom clones, the COD clones etc etc... Once something works, everybody copies it. Playing it safe is absolutely not something new

[@ArnoldJudasRimmer..]

​@@omarsheriff51this is actually a very fair reply, and well put also. But... There is also hope. Hope from companies that still take chances, and make the games that they want to play. FromSoftware. I am looking at you...

[@Real_MisterSir]

They think making money = doing what's trendy, - rather than doing something great that then naturally becomes a trendsetter Assassin's Creed (OG) didn't follow any trends. It in fact did the opposite, it tried to venture where no one had gone before, and it arguably kickstarted the whole single-player open world scene. It wasn't the first to do this, but it was the first game that actually was truly original in this scene and was made from the ground up to be novel and interesting and fun to play. Same with PUBG and Fortnite and Warzone respectively in their own niches of BR. Sure Warzone did kinda follow a trend, but it also was the first AAA studio produced title to go into this scene. Remember, PUBG was basically an indie project that blew up, and Fortnite was in the uber casual segment that didn't really compete directly with the field COD was/is occupying. But every game since them have just failed because they see the trend first and foremost. Battlefield failed miserably, twice. They tried BR and extraction only because it was popular, not because they thought their approach could bring something unique and fun to the scene.

[@andhemills]

They also like to ignore their QA teams.

[@actualiygod6782]

You also forget that publisher push and push games out quicker and only care about the bottom line. Often game devs dont get the ability to make a good game anymore that often.

[@lukamilic]

Need for Speed Underground 2 is 20 years old.... Still has more replay value than a lot of today's releases

[@divacroft1034]

underground is garbage...need for speed remake is the good one

[@MMXX_CE]

@@divacroft1034So you’re bad at driving is what I heard. They’re all arcade but anything after carbon is extra arcade shit.

[@MMXX_CE]

Remembering when NFS separated the handbrake from the foot brake

[@adamboise3907]

Most wanted was my favorite

[@divacroft1034]

@@adamboise3907 that one was terrible too

[@austingregg5598]

I've always loved particularly PC games since I was about 7. I remember getting absolutely hooked on Rome Total War, and later Medieval 2 Total War. From then on I've been a huge fan for grand strategy campaigns. Admittedly, my loyalty to Total War really limited my scope for strategy until I was in my early to mid 20's. But the past few years, I would play games in my library from 5+ years ago because I had an old computer. Then my computer died. I reverted to my laptop for a while which can't handle crazy graphics and the like, so I started playing games from the 90's that are still maintained, or games inspired from 80's and 90's. My favorite has been discovering Dominions: a fantasy grand strategy game based on real cultural mythologies in three different ages. The older games, or even newer games that follow the same style and framework of old games, have so much more depth and immersion than a lot of games I see today. And as others have mentioned, the micro transactions and "DLCs" (aka more mirco transactions) are ridiculous. I also remember buying games as kid at the local BestBuy, Walmart, or off the internet and actually owning a complete game. I know "gamers" have differing genre preferences, but I think a lot of companies just miss the mark with games too. People know a great game when they see one. So if people see a shit game that is obviously more interested in emptying your bank account than providing a superior product, then yeah, people go back to what works. Personally, I'm also weary about constantly purchasing new games because I don't trust new games anymore. I might buy like 2-3 games a year at most now. Oh your game is EA and $40? Hard pass 99% of the time. No demo? Okay, fine. But I'm not paying full price for at least another 3-6 months after I've done my research, forgot about your game, and got bored so here I am a second time window shopping. I love strategy and turn based stuff, and I've also played rts, fps, moba, etc. But there's a common theme between all the genres. That theme seems to be a lack of effort to focus on the stuff consumers actually care about. Instead, companies invest in eye candy and persuading people to pay $60+ for "the game", and then $15+ per kilobyte of "additional content". And yes, not all companies or dev teams screw everything up. This is just my general opinion regarding the nature of games today.

[@hamelconsultancyllc]

I played two new games substantially this year; Helldivers 2 and Last Epoch. Indie studios are where it’s at these days

[@binarydigit0942]

The reason people play games is because they're fun. The reason companies make games is because they earn money. The dichotomy between the two is the root of all evil when it comes to bad AAA games. Publishers and decision-makers who probably don't even play games see dollar signs and then push developers to focus on amazing graphics to lure you in before shoving it out the door on schedule regardless of whether or not it's actually fun (or even ready for a stable release). When World of Warcraft was still in development, I recall a forum post by a Blizzard employee explaining that they cannot announce a release ETA prior to it being feature-complete because they need to make sure everything is fun. If they don't consider an idea or feature to be fun, then they will scrap it and start over with something else. Game companies today need to learn from that. Don't make games for the money, make games for the fun and then money will follow.

[@oldoddjobs]

So fun games make money but businesses are making unfun games in order to.. make money? Why are there so many of you?

[@GutsofEclipse]

How do you reconcile that view with the fact that they actively undermine their brands and destroy their profitability? And that the people making these decisions are being put out of work, many of them never rich to begin with (e.g. community managers, broke freelancers who still have ridiculous amounts of influence, etc.)? The thing to recognize about money is that it's ALWAYS a means, not an end unto itself. The end is whatever they gain from that money, which may or may not be something tangible. For instance, reputation, legacy, and control.

[@Karatarari]

@@oldoddjobs Its the idea that businesses optimized most of the care of customers out of the decision process and leaves more hallow feelings to anyone who thinks longer than a brief period about the games they buy. They're selling us brands and memories then giving us sloppy work but due to the reputation of stuff like Sports Games and CoD being so solid and casual for so many years with people who don't really know better they just keep eating up the slop. Its entirely stupid of them to think people would stop buying shit because its "Not Fun" cus FIFA and EA Sports FC are on those lists and they're probably clunky awful shit games that still have many upon many playing and investing money into. We'll never dredge ourselves out of this until game companies massively fuck up by taking too big of a step somewhere? Not sure where they'd do it but it would need to be BAD to pull the industry back to like 2000s/2010s era of pricing and thoughtfulness, all you can do is not entertain some parts of the industry and hope others don't as well at this rate.

[@Tride_gaming]

i feel companies sometimes forget that the base of games is just having fun. once a game is fun it's easy enough to monetize. make a great game and then monetize it. don't make games around a monitization strategy.

[@khatogast6916]

​@oldoddjobs what do you not understand it's simple? Before they focused on making the game fun too make money now they just focus on the money part

[@manthedestroyer]

New games is garbage. You don't feel like you're playing a game, but more like doing homework and assignments

[@StrongArmEntertainment]

This.. 💯

[@Zombie1Boy]

*Playing Dragon's Dogma 1* I wouldn't mind playing DD2 right about now >_>

[@finalhearts676]

100% Almost all modern games feels like work. Its insane.

[@CubeInspector]

It's because they'd rather try to use gimmicks to trick you into playing long hours than they would just making a good game. What they want to do is slowly bring everyone into a subscription model so you can't own games you can only subscribe monthly with your subscription ability being tied to your social credit score.

[@LuckyJay817]

Fr😢, thats what I feel with ghost recon breakpoint

[@shawn576]

My latest obsession on Steam is the game Wasteland 3. Game is about 4 years old. Most recent purchase is Total War Shogun 2 which is 13 years old.

[@silvereloking6149]

Yes, I'm scrolling old games that I miss and play them now with X Box series S emulation. Find so many great games from PS1, PS2, Gamecube...

[@manasesa.davila1828]

Cause older games were pieces of art and newer ones are just content.

[@TheForbiddenOne55]

🎯

[@Hayabusa_clan]

This.

[@jesperjohansson6959]

There's clearly survivorship bias. 99% of games released in the last decade are dead and forgotten about, just like 99% of modern games.

[@ractorstudios]

newer games are really patches and mods of the old games

[@boom350ph]

​@jesperjohansson6959 I agree to this coz u cam only see star cade series from John Tron to see the majority of games

[@askingwhyisfree7436]

The problem with gamers nowadays is they care more about what most people play..... people forgot it's entertainment. You do you. You play to be entertained...It's like food, tv shows, etc. You don't compete to enjoy food. You don't need validation from most people to enjoy a certain tv show. You just enjoy what you enjoy. Now, people all want what most people play...

[@Buhllake]

It’s sad that this is true of myself and I’ve had to catch myself with it and remind myself of how weird it is. It’s just been so ingrained through everything I didn’t even realize it was happening lol

[@judethenekogamer3651]

Were only here because weve had over a decade of shit and now even the normies are pissed

[@Pointykek]

It's not just that, popular games are probably played by your friends too, will have more youtube content and memes and whatnot.

[@charg1nmalaz0r51]

Thats not really it, its always been that way. its more to do with you end up playing what all your friends are playing so you can play wit them or talk about it. Its like when a tv show becomes popular, everyone starts talking about it so you check it out o see what the fuss is about and then you talk about it. All these big franchises started that way, dave down the road played this game gta1, you play it and are like holy cow thats awesome so you are now play8ing it, your friend comes over and hes now playing it. Nothings changed

[@RegularFlyGuy]

Well, as someone who was on the OG MW servers, i kept buying COD because I couldnt scratch that itch anywhere else. Eventually i stopped because i realized that even COD didnt scratch that itch anymore. I was chasing the feelings i had back in 2007-2011. It was impossible to do. Its hard to get out of old habits and relearn to do something else even in video games. I had to kick my own ass to even get into baldur’s gate and i ended up loving it.

[@ruiqi22]

Regarding 7:44, I personally think Wuthering Waves shot itself in the foot by marketing itself toward Genshin players and then using the exact same pull/gem/real money ratio. The entire point of gem packs not giving a whole number of pulls and pulls being 160 primogems rather than 100, 150, or a rounder number is to obscurify the value of a pull. But using the exact numbers Genshin uses in pack prices, pull prices, and even pity gives anyone playing Wuwa a 1:1 point of comparison. Whenever I’m tempted to buy anything, I just think “would I rather get a wuwa character or a genshin character?” And it’s the latter because I have no idea whether I’ll be playing Wuwa in a year, but I’m invested in Genshin’s plot, characters, etc. and have friends who play. And this won’t only be true for me, because wasn’t Genshin the most profitable game in the world? Or at least one of them. And anyone who plays Genshin and Wuthering Waves and is willing to spend will have already spent $ in Genshin and months or years in Genshin whereas they’ve only spent a month or two playing Wuwa. Maybe it’ll work out in the end; I definitely don’t see Wuthering Waves dying anytime soon. But I think it was a kneecap decision.

[@DrunkNugget]

Does any one know where Asmon got the idea at 21:08? Was it survival in development or something? Because I played the fortnite Beta, and it was certainly not a survival game

[@MoldMonkey93]

It was a tower defense game. A bit of a dodgy description but that’s pretty much what you have to do. It’s just CoD Zombies with more than fixing a window, it’s on some Tony Hawk Park creator BS

[@unleashed2724]

Cause almost every new game is following a similar trend. checking boxes, microtransactions, lack of creativity, taking no risks, changing stuff about previous IPs, and more.

[@__goat__]

Doesn't all of that apply to Sims 4, CS2, CoD and GTA 5 as well? Valorant and LoL were also not creative, they just ripped off CS GO and Dota.

[@ranndomundead9112]

its been the same game just reskinned for 10+ years now

[@Sentinel82]

​​@@__goat__ Yeah but most of the games you listed are good. They at least innovated a bit versus games today that can barely release in a non beta state and shove every leftist political point possible down your throat.

[@Arcexey]

@@__goat__yea it does. GTA V gets a pass for the massive single player.

[@Diogo85]

Sorry, not every game.

[@SuperAstaros]

Old games feel like complete experiences and like real art, not some canned slop. I'm playing Age of Wonders 2 and Heroes of Might and Magic 3 atm and both these games are such a joy to play.

[@doodwasalreadytaken]

I've also been playing around with might and magic 3, my biggest complaint about replying titles this old is getting a nice resolution on the ultra wide monitor 😅 I hope you've got the GOG version and not the steam version 😊😊

[@ketsi3079]

I love cityscyline, dark souls and dragon dogma 2 and they are new games. I dont remember when i enjoyed this mutch of games that i am now

[@SuperAstaros]

@@doodwasalreadytaken Oh yes, the steam version is shit. I play the gog version with the HD mod, runs like a charm😀

[@everquestonline1600]

Age of wonders 4 is great though

[@daniellacomb917]

Aow 4 is pretty fucking good. Homm3 was the fucking bomb back in the day, i gotta play it again

[@mlc9928]

I really like your channel. I found you recently and I’ve subscribed. 👍🏻🤙🏻

[@robeastv]

I went heavy on Fist of the North Star Ken’s Rage a few months ago. Had a great time.

[@steveozone4910]

I like a full game when I purchase it 😂

[@bobbobber4810]

Nothing like having a dlc at launch. 🤮

[@majorgear1021]

Sorry bub. You have to wait for the day 1 200GB patch.

[@igorthelight]

Buy games after a year: * Cheaper * With DLCs * With real reviews * With mods

[@majorgear1021]

@@igorthelight or ignore the new trash games altogether. That is even cheaper!

[@igorthelight]

@@majorgear1021 There are 2-3 good games every year. Some of them are AAA, AA and even indies ;-)

[@MrROTD]

I get turned off when I have to sign in to an extra account to play a game by myself, for example I wanted to play a golf game but the game doesnt save your progress in single player mode unless you connect to the server, what the fuck is that? why cant I do single player seasons by myself in a golf game?

[@ArnoldJudasRimmer..]

Shhhhhh! Stop talking reason, and logic... Consume product how we say. Ya got that?!? 😂😂

[@Xgil2Play]

Because that game has multiplayer or at the very least, some form of online connectivity that requires the developers to collect/ request/ send data.

[@liwojenkins]

@@Xgil2Play Yes. Why does the game need to be designed to require server information for single player? There are many games that don't need to do that at all. You missed the point entirely and dropped into being a pathetic pedant.

[@Xgil2Play]

@@liwojenkins I answered that question in my previous comment. Re-read it; it's in English.

[@Dominian1]

Just consume product and buy the next one. Repeat endlessly.

[@q1337]

Because a game I bought in 2021 looks and plays like a pre-release alpha version meant for internal testing yet has DLC from day one along with 50 pre-order bonuses. Seems like a more complicated donation system than an entertainment purchase.

[@opoxious1592]

I play Battlefield 3 and 4 online nearly every day since the release in 2011 for BF3 and 2013 for BF4. These two shooters are still the best shooters that have ever been made. Especially BF4 has loads of full servers.

[@henrychurch6062]

For me it's Unreal Tournament 2003. I just haven't found an FPS that's more fun for me, and 20 years later I can still hop on for a quick match whenever I want. Completely respects my time, never asks for more money, and if I want something new I can download a mod.

[@hoyschelsilversteinberg4521]

I was so annoyed when they released BF4 because I barely saw a difference between the two. I could see the potential for BF3 to be the standard of FPS for it to be a SDK to be released to a modding community like BF1942 was. But.... EA yet again in their history of moronic decisions decided to fumble the play as they always do.

[@sandisrekis9878]

Demon Souls was small Dark Souls was a breakout Dark Souls 3 was a massive success Elden Ring was an instant blockbuster FromSoft made by sticking to their guns. Devs, publisher - take note.

[@mistywww3199]

Everygame that fromsoft made after demons souls sold extremely well.

[@thatarmswarrior]

Yea even ds2 was solid, definitely felt off, compared to ds1, but was still a banger

[@theteamxxx3142]

@@thatarmswarrior DS2 is still a great game . One can argue it's the worst out of the 3 dark souls but i love it as much as 1

[@thatarmswarrior]

@@theteamxxx3142 agreed, it's my favorite in all honesty, I kinda love the disjointed interconnected map, like you're living in a true hellscape that twists and transforms and just keeps throwing stuff at you

[@BlobBlobkins]

Dark Souls 2 is a gem, git gud

[@drasticbread249]

Medieval II: Total War is one of those time portal games where once you step in, there's no knowing how much time will have passed when you step out.

[@Mastakilla91]

Like a good book. Still playing it

[@markcoroneos7811]

I still play MTW2 and empire and occassionaly RTW2. Refuse to play any of the new ones.

[@inopnatum]

still waiting for M3TW and i hope they wont fuck it up.

[@tuldun336]

I always go back to medieval 2 and shogun 2 from time to time 😊

[@Titanic_Tuna]

​​@@inopnatum With how CA have become. *YOU WILL* be disappointed in a M3TW that they make. They have fallen to great levels of incompetence.

[@AudioVyl]

2:10 tbf if i saw those charts unless i was a aaa studio id steer clear, and just make a regular single player game because its not likely that id be able to compete with the games dominating the charts right now

[@michaelscotts3949]

Also the ones they can monitor. I like playing the games I bought that I actually have and didn't NEED steam to play.

[@infectio88]

The modern gaming world is in a post-apocalyptic state where aside from a very few oasis, everything that comes out just adds more to the growing wasteland of broken hopes... Old games look like technological and artistic miracles compared to most of the soulless slop they're so proud of overpricing nowadays

[@im1085]

most of the games on those most played lits are freemium slop made to milk people

[@wazakashi]

This year alone has been banger after banger and we have stellar blade and senuas saga, which, not for me personally, I know a lot of people are looking forward to. This is following a year of titles that have been killing it. The trash is there but it's where it belongs. Suicide squad anyone? For spoken? Saints row? That's probably 3 closed studios back to back to hopefully back because fuck rocksteady

[@ELABrust]

Damn bro, thank you for the insightful comment

[@Lifesizemortal]

I'm hoping any of the 3 big MMOs I'm anticipating are going to be worthwhile and I can put years of gameplay into them and constitute supporting them, but my cynical side is telling me 1 out of 3 is an impossible ask. I may just have to keep playing RuneScape.

[@fnonpm]

@@wazakashi It looks like most games these days are cartoony and childlike compared to the influx of mature franchises we got in the past like gears of war, halo etc Stellar Blade just looks like Bayonetta/Nier to me with no new mechanics All mechanics at this point are rehashed from the past When I was a kid I thought we would get games were we can wage mech space battles and expand our government while piloting mechs over at least 20 worlds Instead I got starfield......

[@iSammie2]

Back when u bought a ACTUAL COMPLETE GAME .

[@niemand7811]

That was back when they had no choice. And from 100 games per console you can say that roughly 70% were unbalanced, unfinished and otherwise troubled. And there was no way to patch anything. That is why PC gamers did and still do consider themselves superior since they have the patch and fix solutions right behind them. Console gamers never had that. Well now we do and people complain. Insane.

[@arachnid83]

@@niemand7811 Yeah nobody complains about patches. Its about adding or unlocking playable content in the game for a fee after making you buy an incomplete game.

[@aleckjin]

Bruh... GTAV is from 2013. AC 2 from 2009 was already unfinished and had story DLC that was in the middle of the game. Games as a Service are not complete games. They are never finished. The last time games were complete was the PS2, Xbox, Cube era

[@gordonshumway888]

The Neverwinter Nights series offered functionality which is no longer available in any modern computer game. You could create your own worlds from scratch and run them as dedicated servers. No one of modern games offers this today.

[@Skizzeckz]

Warframe is seeing many new players join since Cross play and Cross save were added month's ago. It is a fun time helping new players right now, on top of enjoying the game itself.

[@Char77731]

I'm still playing on my Xbox 360. Games like Crysis 2, Gears of War 3, Borderlands 2, and Skyrim.

[@majorgear1021]

“Gears! Move out!”

[@HeiligerGrimmnir]

Bro... My SNES is literally hooked up to a projector in my bedroom with 3 drawers full of games I haven't beat yet. I don't want to talk about my hacked PS2.

[@alvaro1379]

@@HeiligerGrimmnir🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@theoncousland4587]

​@@HeiligerGrimmnirdude, you're set. Living like a king

[@jethrodark2372]

Omg i still have Gears on my 360 and love it. I wish they would release Gears 1-3 on PC allready.

[@user-cv3on6nk6u]

I also want to point out a thing that many may not even talk about: older games sometimes are just comfortable to play. No matter how many new Resident Evil games come out there is only one obligatory yearly run of RE 4, and so many franchises have that same thing where there is that one game that people consider peak and stick to it as their comfort fallback.

[@GeorgeMonet]

What about RES 1-3? Those are older games but they aren't obligatory yearly runs?

[@TheNeonLynx]

@@GeorgeMonet Comfort games probably means what they played as a kid. (Also damn RE 1 and 2 have not aged well so I would not blame anyone for not picking that up again)

[@Metallijosh100]

I've played through the entire Battle For Middle Earth campaign about 20 times in my life. Cozy games are so repeatable and comfy and familiar (Second Wind video was great on this topic).

[@user-cv3on6nk6u]

@@GeorgeMonet RE3 is definately a 2 year run, just to savor Nemesis from time to time. RE1 and 2 - eh, maybe remakes but not yearly that's for sure. Also, sleeper pick - Revelations 2 for the raid mode. That game is straight up crack for my RE gameplay craving.

[@jarltrippin]

​@@TheNeonLynxGonna disagree with you there. RE1 hasn't aged super well, sure, since the remake has rendered it completely obsolete, but OG RE2 is just a better, more coherent game than its remake. RE2 Remake is so clearly unfinished, and it's sorely lacking the atmosphere that only fixed camera angles and pre-rendered backgrounds can provide.

[@TVindustries5000]

I play fighting games (casually). I havent played a new fighter since the early days of SF5. with all the decent fighting games that exist, i could play old fighting games for decades and still have new games to checkout and learn to play

[@fastboi8093]

Amazing video, you know exactly when to pause and add your input to the topic

[@cayvtube]

Same reason I watch mostly old movies

[@kennypitts4829]

I watched "The Ninth Gate" last week and it was refreshing. For a silly destraction of balance, I then watched "The Court Jester" starring Danny Kay; story driven films that do not attempt to change anything. Cheers.

[@glenmcl]

Agreed. Young Guns is fantastic.

[@bashvash]

Big trouble in little china

[@jarltrippin]

Don't dismiss foreign movies either. There's still a lot of great stuff being made all around the world.

[@user-hl3qv8qg2s]

so true.... today 99% of movies will have a woke message. its so boring and lame. we just want to see good stories......... not political propaganda

[@JGburneraccount]

Remove live service titles and re-do the survey.

[@GravityVT]

I feel like live service games are for normal gamers whereas the more classical or hardcore gamers prefer single player games

[@khaiuschill310]

Normal people* and gamers play what you mention

[@havoc8600]

Nah bro, CS and Valorant keep me sane. Live service isn’t some horrific thing, it’s just that most new “games” are a cash shop in disguise

[@sandisrekis9878]

even looking at Steam stats most player SP games are mostly made 4-10 years ago.

[@NetBattler]

And remove dei,ESG and activists from the industry

[@xXDarthBagginsXx]

The barrier for entry for system requirements is lower for alot of the top games on the list, simple and complete product, and not pay to win so they are easy to enjoy for extended time. Studios keep trying to add in pay to win and barriers where the users are pushed to pay in annually (at the long end of the spectrum).

[@NZealandese]

There's some games on game pass I haven't touched yet. I've been playing the ones that are leaving soon (for the achievements), And also the Tomb Raider trilogy(because I played the 1st one on the 360 but never brought the 2nd and 3rd). As for the recent games I play the live service ones like Apex and Fortnite just to complete the Battle pass and don't invest too much on it(and because it's free).

[@Jameslawz]

Today's Market = $80 for a Beta version of the game with patch support and a $140 DLC in the future whilst current bugs and issues still exist. This is today's gaming experience. Old games polish their games before release and patching was only done to fix SMALL issues, now it's been made into an industry to distribute WHOLE GAME FILES.

[@oneplay5570]

facts

[@lowca3717]

- or just wait 8mo and buy the gold edition with all DLC and included patches for $30. I haven't bought a full price game in years. The silver-lining of an oversaturated market. There are exceptions ofc (Nintendo First-Party titles & BG3) but 90% of the market falls into this pattern.

[@eggnog52]

A player could have a blast playing hundreds of Doom WAD's for free.

[@saikimayu]

Listening to interviews now with developers of big hit classics from the '90s/2000s, I keep seeing the same things: relatively small teams, and absurdly unrestricted creative freedom to the point where the game shipped with things that only one team member was even aware of. The really sad thing is that I don't think going back to that would even work anymore. The industry is no longer populated with people who have the talent or integrity for that environment. We also don't really have A or AA studios at all now; that dynamic is completely gone. Everything is either AAA or indie, and personally I'm sick of both albeit for different reasons.

[@69ballerpimp4life]

100% this. The current industry lacks the people required for good games. You need people who have integrity and love for the common gamer.

[@Cryptic0013]

Same. Everything is either over-the-top, bloated-budget photorealistic bombast, or no-budget pixel-trash headed straight for Humble Bundle/Game Pass. How about just... a reasonable medium?

[@saikimayu]

@@Cryptic0013 Yeah, the pixel shit is only popular because it's so accessible for developers with no resources. Nobody is actually nostalgic for it. I'm freaking 35 and that 8-bit pixel aesthetic is still easily 5-10 years before my time.

[@minisithunknown5568]

That sucks for consoles. Steam has A and AA studios as well as unlimited indies that could be the next A or AA studio.

[@Cryptic0013]

@@saikimayu Yeah, Josh Strife Hayes said it best when he pointed out that Symphony of the Night and A Link to the Past still look good today because, in the XX-bit era, devs were doing absolutely everything they could with very limited resources, so they leaned into art style. Nowadays, "pixel shit" looks terrible because those devs are, instead, doing the *least* they can get away with, despite having nearly unlimited compute resources, because they have no style. Then they try to pass it off as "nostalgic"

[@airforcex9412]

Interesting; I used to never play old games (other than retro) but I do find myself playing older games. Part of it is that graphics are at a place where even older games look great, so it becomes mostly about content.

[@Bigbitesdark]

i play all games that i can at least once but there are rankings i have in my mind depending on different things, box art, reviews, videos, story, who's promoting it.

[@xhossxonex6441]

Of course we are playing older games are you kidding me, who wouldn't play a good game thats $60 at most and probably is on sale regardless of the original price and even if it is full price it's still a good game

[@MrRafagigapr]

me reading this as i play diablo 1 , "yep thats true "

[@christianedwards9025]

It's always bothered me no matter how many years pass, all older COD games are still sold at full price. Like nobody is going to buy Ghosts or advanced warfare for 60$, also shame on you if you think ghost was ever good. Same with older pokemon titles.

[@cristianfairley4186]

I mean the most popular ones are all free so this isn't a bad take but an inaccurate one

[@christianedwards9025]

@@cristianfairley4186 what are you referencing?

[@cristianfairley4186]

@@christianedwards9025 Fortnite apex legends league of legends cs2 valorant pubg.. the list goes on. Warzone.. felt this needed to be added just to really show its every Uber popular game is free.

[@Schnaubau]

I'm finaly playing through Final Fantasy 7 & 8. With older games you at least know which ones are quality

[@BenjiPOTF]

Have you ever played ff6? While the graphics weren't great even in the remake the story is solid and has multiple endings.

[@coltonsmith3270]

with older games, you also know which ones are quality.

[@Baccanaso]

Same, finally decided to play legend of dragoon, ff 8 is next and then ff7

[@matosz23]

​@@Baccanaso Don't sleep on FF6 and Chrono Trigger.

[@kloutfitness5548]

FF9 is solid too

[@yupyeah6991]

It’s funny because I’ve been talking to my buddy about this recently and seeing this video just validated my stance lol the odds

[@boogooglysilversmith8009]

Yeah Im juggling, 7 days to die, Star Citzen, Captain of Industry, Valheim, NightenGale and hosting Conan Exiles. Have installed have yet to play Enshrouded, Infected Zone, Lord Manor, Squad 44. Need longer days and be able to stay up longer lol.

[@finnaplow]

Some older games like fallout and system shock, deus ex, they haven't aged perfectly but if you sit with them for a couple hours you will be hopelessly hooked despite their age

[@GeorgeMonet]

Not for me. The only Fallout game I like is FO4 and that is because it isn't a Fallout game.

[@tanktahu]

@@GeorgeMonet that's probably because it had more modern gameplay mechanics

[@finnaplow]

@@GeorgeMonet different strokes i spose. i didnt like fallout 4

[@w1zard0_cs20]

@@GeorgeMonet how someone can enjoy fallout 4 and not new vegas and 3 is wild to me

[@topazlynx2228]

Oh god people are considering a 7 year old game as "Old". I myself would only consider that as like, just over "not new anymore". God I feel like an old man withering away and I was born in the PS1/Saturn/N64 era...

[@abstractdaddy1384]

Haha, I was thinking the same thing. Here I am playing a romhack of Super Metroid and people are talking about Fortnite being old. Gimme a break.

[@Methos_]

It’s also cause there isn’t a huge difference in an average game today and a long-lasting game that’s 7 years old. The industry is mostly afraid of taking risks and innovating now. Everybody is playing it safe so it’s just a homogenous smudge of Unreal Engine 5 garbage

[@TheShadowOfZama]

I am still nostalgic to GTA San Andreas.

[@Mart-E12]

Kids born when the game released ar at school already and that's crazy to me

[@rotgutthebloated4730]

Im literally playing PS1 games on emulator

[@jahkrmusic]

Honestly, this is also why I chose developing applications versus video games. Imagine every product you make potentially being the last product you make.

[@DrOinkman]

i'm still playing gw1 to this day. there is no other game that is similar enough to make me care and the game still gets (minimal) support.

[@realmetatron]

I actually play game boy and other retro games these days, being surprised by how good they were. I had almost forgotten what it was like when games were just good without filler and other nonsense.

[@orangegalen]

Lol or when games couldn’t afford the space for filler cuz they were counting megabytes.

[@abrahambobst4602]

Oh yeah, gameboy has a lot of good games.

[@gregjones9901]

Part of the problem is that consumers don't know what they actually want, and devs keep listening to it, which is how World of Warcraft got to the point it's at now. But if you go back to a game that is comparatively simple and slow like Diablo 1, holy shit that game was well crafted even when you take into account the silly hangups it has. It looks like shit compared to D4, until you play it and realize that mounts and collectibles and skins, and affix swapping and white knuckle action are hollow and empty.

[@Jdf2024]

@@orangegalenor in the case of Gameboy, kilobytes lol…

[@Bunnykobra]

Hey ye Gameboy is very good

[@estebanperalta59]

I remember back in 2004 that I watched the making-of-documentary of Halo 2, that came out in the Collector's Edition as an extra DVD. I remember Joseph Staten, writer and director of the game, when they came out with the E3 2003 demo he said "we came to the E3 with a demo, not with a playable part of the game, and in its current state the game is not fun so we need to rethink the whole project". You don't see that anymore, developers actually thinking about games being fun, games are just cashgrabs now and you can see it by tons of games coming out every day, we are living in the shovelware days of the Wii, but for the whole industry.

[@roberthartburg266]

It's not just the fun aspect. Look up the documentaries for the German cult games series Gothic. The original developer were dedicated computer scientist, who were interested in creating their own 3D engiene and they had an actual drive to make their game different and unique from other RPGs on the market at the time. You look at todays diversity hire developers and you are happy if they can eat with a spoon without losing an eye.

[@RandomPersonOnTheInternet1234]

This point about being invested in older games still in a big point! It’s why I hate these huge games cause I get burnt out and end up not playing another big game. I really miss linear games like Gears of war series, splinter cell, games that were so linear and story deep.

[@Itskilo]

I always buy games 1-2 years after release. That way they are usually fully patch, have all content released, and are discounted 60% or more.

[@asmrvidsaccount]

Perfect example is WWF No Mercy vs any new WWE game. Back then it was a blast playing the game to unlock all the customizable content, new arenas, wrestlers etc. now you pay 70 bucks and they hide half the roster behind a season pass and other bs.

[@cliffgoat]

No Mercy was amazing. Played that game for hours on end

[@Alstanus]

Dude, I still jump into that game from time to time. It's one of the few reasons I still have my N64.

[@vince7207]

The best part was being able to have title fights with your mates... Had many a great evening with custom wrestlers battling it out for bragging rights.

[@bache72]

You're right. They disrespect the younger generation by treating you like this. Reward good behavior by supporting developing companies that won't paywall block you.

[@chase7972]

Duuuuuude me and my brother fucking loved No Mercy.

[@heyitsfp]

I recently revisited: Arkham City, Max Payne 3 and Deus Ex mankind divided. Absolute masterpieces on all front (gameplay, music, animation, storytelling...) All often on sale under 10$.

[@All_Hail_Chael]

Correct on all 3, Max Payne is amazing, more people should go back and play it.

[@haroldfranklin3670]

The original deus ex is one of the best games ever made. Way better the invisible war and the two new prequels. JC Denton in the fresh!

[@All_Hail_Chael]

@@haroldfranklin3670 First play though, JC's bro told me to run out of the flat and I did and he died. Next play though, "Fuck this, I'm not leaving my bro" Saved him and he was in the whole game after! MIND BLOWN! What a game.

[@heyitsfp]

@@All_Hail_Chael absolutely, original is probably the SP game I finished the most amount of times because I was curious to see what would happen if X Y Z was done differently. Been playing a bit of mankind divided lately and while the consequences of certain choices don't impact the main story all that much, I'm still surprised to find pretty elaborate side quests or interesting areas

[@pawelisecki6054]

Max payne yess

[@Cydyan]

I’m going all in on indie games. Any recommendations? I’m a strategy game guy, mobas, and dark souls/bloodborne series are my favorite games

[@Always.Smarter]

just by sheer numbers, there will always be more old games than new ones, therefore most of the best games will be old. they also tend to be more accessible and less buggy

[@guardsmennorheimofthetanit4892]

Medal of honor died because it was so buggy on release you couldn't compete the first mission. Then by the time a patch came out a month later no one knew about it because social media wasn't like it is these days.

[@Lunamana]

I miss the MoH series every day... No other game took WW2 and turned it into cinema quite like that game

[@luminousparadox7529]

That was the start of a trend no one knew was coming. If you told my 8yo self that you'd buy a game and have to wait for a fix to play most of the game. I probably would have spat on you in disgust 😂😂😂

[@AspectofFrost]

​@@Lunamanahell let loose is fantastic on the multiplayer side

[@iThinkMyNamesBenH]

Love the medal of honor series. Despite above and beyond being quite; buggy, quirky, 160+gb!!! It was a very fun VR game to playthrough. Need another game similar to MoH: Rising Sun

[@slynt_]

Medal of Honor games on the original Xbox blow any CoD or Battlefield out of the water

[@budemawa411]

The fact the games are "older" is only a surface observation, there were tons of old games that have since been forgotten. The difference is that "old" games that are still being played are the stand-outs. New games are competing with "hey I have this awesome game I put hundreds of hours into, do I wanna spend $70 on some new game that I'm not even sure I'll remember in a year or just save money and keep playing my owned games?" Companies need to realize they're competing with games from ten years ago and if they fail to deliver and improve on things from the past and make fun new things, they'll fail.

[@N3mdraz]

Yes. But I noticed so many new games are childish right now. There is a trend where games are made such that a grandmother and a toddler can both play it. As a gamer i feel alienated by 90% of the new games. Same reason why wow went downhill, dumbing game down=retail but to focused on endgame raids for pros. Alienating core audience.

[@albertoarmando6711]

Exactly they are competing with the past. Look at rocksteady: I rather play arkham city again than the new one.

[@josepherhardt164]

Hell, I still like playing the occasional text-graphics version of Star Trek, with the 6x6 galaxy grid and 10x10 quadrant grid. And of course the "experimental death ray" which might, occasionally, create two Klingons in quadrant. (I first played a mainframe version of this in 1977, I believe.) And if the battle computer was damaged, you had to send out your photon torpedoes using arctans that you did in your head. And don't get me started on _Adventure._ With the pirate (that we never see) and the "twisty little passages."

[@lukemarks92]

Asmon you have grown up so much man its crazy how well respected you are now. I remember back in the day i thought you were crazy lol glad you grew into this genre of youtube you helped create. Big props on everything you have accomplished my man