Path of Exile 2 got a review..

[@javebjorkman]

If we just stopped watching IGN, this would just go away

[@Scuba_Bro]

I only watch it when people like Asmon watch it and make fun of it so they only really get Asmon’s view 😂

[@banishedbr]

i doubt some1 watch ign

[@ЕфимМушаков-ъ1б]

​@@banishedbrlots of normies watch it sadly

[@dontgetoffended9524]

There's too many woke people so they will always have viewers

[@TheCravenom]

At this point it’s just for the jokes

[@thomasilves5392]

Honestly 8 is a fair review, but with the knowledge that veilguard somehow got a 9 then this game should be 11/10

[@valreth5648]

Exactly my thought

[@Snipin]

8 isn’t fair Thomas.

[@Necris986]

@@Snipinwhy isnt 8 fair?

[@GoadedGoblin]

Game reviews in general are pretty meaningless. Like Alanah Pearce said, it's just "some fuckin guys opinion" and which "some fuckin guy" changes from game to game.

[@meltdown4126]

@@Snipin for an early access version it is

[@reycole8837]

Asmon reacting: “it is not that complicated, just read” Asmon playing a new game: can’t read 2 sentences of a tutorial

[@Evanz111]

I remember him playing a tutorial for a game and just kept killing the practice mobs for like 5 minutes, not progressing because he wasn’t using the mechanic it was teaching lmao

[@reshypoo9447]

And when he does read, he has uncanny recall.

[@Raizan-IO]

He is working. His work is entertaining. The IGN reviewer is working, his job is to explain the game to people because he got to play it for several hours and has the ability to read and focus on reading while not trying to entertain 200k+ people. Worst of all, the guy is doing a REVIEW not an "first thoughts" opening the game. He put off a lot of people that actually listen to that media.

[@James-u1y]

@@Raizan-IOyou do realize you don't have to skip few sentence long occasional tutorials to entertain an audience? He just doesn't care. Major successful steamers read very long dialogue and are just as successful.

[@Raizan-IO]

@@James-u1y You do realize streamers depend on their own style to catch an audience and that style fits their audience? Crazy that you forgot that audiences are wildly different. He is doing his style, and is clearly successful with it, so much that he doesn't have to treat his ADHD because it works in his favour to get people like you riled up (not trying to attack you here, it also used to bother me, until I let go of my obsessivenes on people behaving like I do). I'd rather you complain on his obstinance to actually pull his life together because it is so hard for him. Edit: You can talk to most youtubers on what kills engagement and that is easily seen in analytics. My favorite one has to speed read because he loses the audience, at the end of the day it has more retention to make mistake due to misreading than reading for long.

[@alirezaeftekhary9980]

in isolation 8 is a fair rating the only problem is that its an ign 8

[@offworlder461]

Any rating above 7/10 from IGN doesn't mean anything when pretty much every major game they review is at least a 7/10

[@alirezaeftekhary9980]

@@offworlder461 exactly

[@Philpot1992]

​@@offworlder461that's the same for anything though when it comes to opinions. A game can only really be 7 max at an objective level as there will be some that don't like it or do like it subjectively. My favourite game is a 10 but I can't tell anybody their opinion is wrong unless they go below 7.

[@MrRafagigapr]

when the average is a 7 , every game is 8 or a 9 , no one cares

[@logirex]

8/10 for this early access is fine 🤷‍♂

[@Viper3220]

Never forget that Gollum was rated higher than Space Marine 2 and Veilguard is now rated higher than poe2 These review sites are completely irrelevant

[@vsupps1]

Some review website rated my keyboard from 15 years ago 1.5 stars out of 5 for poor quality and im still using it with zero issues. Guess they didn't get paid enough 😂

[@MrPezsgess]

When did was Gollum higher that Space Marine 2? I found 4/10. Is there a link?

[@ouroboros6666]

Gollum got 4/10. Space Marine 2 got 8/10. Wtf are you smoking? EDIT: Looks like you meant PC Gamer, not IGN. Sure, you can cherry pick the most outrageous score differences for each site. Doesn't mean they're all irrelevant tho. The point is to have multiple different reviews from different sites for a single game so that we can get an average score for the game. PC gamer's 6/10 rating for Space Marine 2 doesn't mean anything when we have the average score. Generally people think it is a good game.

[@belongaskip]

Yet we keep caring what they say

[@StackingGains]

​@ouroboros6666 it doesnt mean all reviews are bad, but it does prove they arent all reliable. And the more such examples there are the worse the reliability. Most game review sites suck these days, and have different standards than most consumers for whats a good game.

[@annojance]

Asmon seeing the dev's update about loot and upgrade items: "Perfect. Great idea." Asmon seeing the reviewer talk about how stingy loot was before the update: "Nonsense!"

[@jasonmillington7806]

I guess GGG didn't pay their protection money to IGN

[@grilledleeks6514]

Imagine acting like 8/10 is bad lol. When they aren't bribed they actually give real reviews

[@impatxent]

​@@grilledleeks6514? bro believes in IGN

[@TheRetrostorian]

@@grilledleeks6514 IGN only gave it an 8 because they don't want to lose access at Blizzard.

[@wickian9571]

I'm still laughing that he said 60 hours to beat the campaign. I'm taking my time, going slow, staring at the skill tree, doing all the side quests and wasting time on the ascension trials multiple times and I'll finish in under 40 easy.

[@ravenhadjen7745]

You 4 real, dog? IGN ain’t real dog! Bro you gotta be tripping! Out site man! What you doing dude shrooms some of that Mary Jane? IGN fake as shet my guy!

[@jasonmillington7806]

They gave Failguard a 9/10 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@MoleUK1]

No, an individual reviewer gave it 9/10. Was it the same reviewer? If not, it's literally irrelevant. Seeing people continue to say this drives me nuts. IGN doesn't review anything. It employs many individuals to review individual things. Actually I just checked, and yes they were reviewed by different people. Don't mistake the voiceover guy for the reviewer either, he simply reads the script. While I personally think scores out of 10 or 100 are fundamentally retarded, they're completely useless if you don't take into account who is reviewing it and what kind of games they personally like.

[@Dactess]

^^ dude is fun at parties

[@pickle7769]

insane. I hate IGN

[@moloh2529]

gayguard

[@conor2898]

@@MoleUK1what if the individual reviewer was honest and decided to give failguard a 3/10? Would IGN release their review? You know the answer

[@WatchingFromWork6636]

Asmon's takes are interesting. If he disagrees, ie people say the game is too complex, he simply breaks it down to simplest concept "just read the tooltips and you are good". If he dislikes a take he does the opposite and when someone breaks it down "just dodge" or "just don't get hit" it's a sill argument by the opposing players. Anything can be broken down to the simplest form and made to look easy. Golf has a ball that is stationary and a hole that is stationary just hit it right and you will be perfect, why aren't you perfect? That's first grade logic, same as "just read the tool tips" is first grade logic because there are a ton of variables that make that logic fail, Asmon knows this, but he just uses it because it fits his narrative at the time.

[@cloudstriker3972]

Nailed it. Asmongler is not smart.

[@Djuntas]

IGN guy said the naughty word at the start...spreadsheets. I worry POE2 is just another PHD game like POE1. Im not interested in having to learn shit and be forced to a guide. Also he says the reta-rded passive tree is not complex, meanwhile he ofcourse uses a guide for paragon tree in Diablo 4 like any of us do. I dont wanna learn a game, I wanna play it.

[@WatchingFromWork6636]

@ I won’t say that, I’ll say he knows how to twist things to make his point look good or yours look until you look at how he did it then there is no substance.

[@WatchingFromWork6636]

@@Djuntas Ascending uses Sanctum and Ultimatum to complete essentially. Both of them mechanics in PoE1 had specific builds built for them. Yes lots of builds CAN work but they designed specific builds for them for a reason. That said, if you just do your think and don’t use a spreadsheet/guide aren’t well versed (especially as melee) good F’n luck doing them.

[@Djuntas]

@@WatchingFromWork6636 Yes, I fear POE2 will never learn to attract me. I gave POE1 about 200-250 hours. By then I had a fine geared build (got some free currency randomly from a guy non-ladder mind you), but understood nothing outside of what my build needed or how the end-game really worked. The best example I can give is go to the waypoint in POE1, and all the crap you can teleport to...thats the problem.

[@QuiteLunacy]

Why do people keep reacting to/acknowledging IGN? They would literally go under in a year like they deserve to if people just stopped giving them attention. Edit- Read the comments under this. You're welcome😂

[@IwatchTubiTrash]

You're only a degree of separation from reacting to IGN yourself.

[@janisarbidans8931]

Because outside of paid ratings they are actually worthy to listen to. POE is 8/10 game

[@BigKnecht]

So they can dunk on IGN and get viewer retention by harnessing gamer rage.

[@tylerharris4568]

You really don't know how this works this is all content for youtubers to use same reason cover woke ass disney or hbo shit it's all engagement

[@Totsukachi]

Free content

[@Kat1kafka]

Reminder that one of the nominees for ign's game of the year is Failguard

[@Cataclyscerator]

I never knew about the game but when I saw it...IGN should be cancelled

[@primary2630]

And that's completely irrelevant. Obviously not the same person maintaining the reviews.

[@JAmonOfficial]

yeah, why can't we cancel IGN ? It's cancel culture times, cannot we somehow dismantle these idiots ?

[@LEWIS1992]

Asmon was WAY off base here. YES it should receive a numbered review, because GGG is CHARGING MONEY for the game. It's a product. Doing the campaign twice is stupid. Why not just give the player +20 levels after beating Act 3?

[@frankyd9986]

to be fair, this wasn't a bad review. A few things here and there that I don't agree with (e.g the final score), but it wasnt a stupid review, which is a difficult task to ask from IGN.

[@Evanz111]

It’s crazy to me that some people think PoE2 in its current state is a 10/10. Like okay so why’s it even in early access? What can they possibly improve?

[@BloachismStrengthandFitness]

@@Evanz111 An 8 is actually a fair rating for the current state of the game. It's just that IGN rates worse games a 9

[@adammaidment9962]

Yes, in isolation, it's a fair review, albeit a bit stupid but just about acceptable. But when you look at the bigger picture and see veilguard getting a 9/10, that is when this becomes a real unbalanced, dishonest, agenda driven, biased punch in the face to all consumers and viewers. No respect. No dignity. IGN reviews are essentially a waste of time. Shallow excuses for a video that is used for financial profiting and not balanced critiquing

[@chriswellz]

@@BloachismStrengthandFitnessThis the one right here.

[@killmaidie6469]

It’s quite stupid actually. What he had problem with is the charming part of the game that he doesn’t understand at all and is misleading to newbie watching him. Unique not dropping is dumb problem to have, because uniques 99% sucks and your best weapon is from crafting. Your ‘holy shit’ moment is not guarded by random loot or end bosses, but by your alt and trans orb which is much more abundant. Making the end bosses drop your class loot just ruins the speedrun scene and create meta around classes with most valuable unique to league start with and sell loot. His lack of basic understanding of this 10 years old game makes this a dumb review. Albeit not as dumb as their other reviews.

[@rieskyalief7309]

I think what makes most people mad about IGN review score is that they give the same or even higher score to a game thats objectively worse

[@deenman23]

exept thats factualy wrong,d4 is better in every way

[@Wintercide]

​@@deenman23 are you serious?

[@AwesomeNuke]

@@deenman23 1. You're absolutely wrong. 2. Vailguard got a 9...

[@deenman23]

@@AwesomeNuke veilguard is goty

[@FjUeCwK-Tube]

​@@deenman23Gotta be trolling.

[@gordonramsayfanatic]

8/10 for a game with 60% "coming soon" spells and classes and only 3 of the planned 6 acts you just have to play through twice sounds about right lol, it would be kind of insane to give a half finished early access game a 9 or a 10

[@ycatthebrave]

its not insane if its just that good.

[@Nuddy98]

​​@@ycatthebrave personally it gets taken down a bit because of the story. So everything else is 9/10 or 10/10 but the story is no more than 5/10. People may have hated Diablo 4 but the main campaign had me hooked from start to finish. This just hasn't hooked me yet.

[@cheapcyborg4866]

don’t understand how that is a hard concept for people to understand lmao they are reviewing an unfinished game a 9/10 is just absurd fan boy shit people are paying for an early access game not the final product hence a review score for the current state and an 8 is arguably being generous

[@ycatthebrave]

@@cheapcyborg4866 the fact that it is unfinished is irrelevant to the score. What should impact the score are aspects of the game that are not up to par regardless of the reason.

[@Mmachine88]

@@ycatthebrave Well yes, but when people are complaining about the review should be higher because the reviewer should have the context of the game implementing additional features, classes, etc. ... that's when it is relevant. This is exactly what Asmongold said ... which is just wild.

[@Arbiter8114]

“Lack of diversity and inclusion” 8/10

[@Nope-w2h]

I bet your not even joking and it literally said that

[@pfontanesi]

also "lack of honest reviewers"

[@xredrumx5150]

@@Nope-w2h My favorite review of all time was KCD review from Eurogamer. It was basically, and I shit you not, "The game was good but we talked to a single historian and he said that potentially maybe theres a chance that just maybe there was maybe a PoC in one of the cities at the time so due to that lack of diversity in the game we cant recommend the game."

[@personalgao]

Lack of 3 acts, repetitive plays to finish the player leveling, lack of an ending? I think an 8 is quite good score.

[@Javaris_Jamar]

caint spell •••••• without IGN cuh

[@Justacatlmao]

PoE2 - 8/10 D4 - 9/10 Tf?

[@himalczyk258]

Wonder why... and also, its PoE2 Early Access 8/10, well should be then a 10/10 once released full version

[@ahmedelkashef]

D4 plays much better than PoE2 tbh

[@patrikomelka3918]

Might have been reviewed by different people, probably each game reviewed by a person more biased towards it than the rest.

[@catclipcentral]

I agree with that. D4 was hype at launch until people found out the end game was garbage. Poe2 has garbage early game and end game.

[@personalgao]

PoE2 is not even finished... is half the game, 3 acts no ending... come on. It's impossible to be higher score than that. Imagine when the game is finished.

[@Jayhawker2000]

4:30 It's not complexity of the system. It's about the readability of the UI that presents that system to the player.

[@jontay4199]

Idk, this is my first experience with Poe, and the tree isn’t that bad. It feels a lot like what he said, I ask myself, “what am I going for?”, then I look for stuff that supports that. Making a game for non gamers is pointless and stupid. Like being a basket maker and trying to make them for people without arms- is that really a good idea for a target audience? Seems like that group of people wouldn’t be interested in the activities that baskets enable them to partake in. Like placing things in the basket. Same for gaming. I think the UI is plenty readable, even on controller. But I love to play video games, I enjoy learning the systems and since every word has a definition that you can click on, learning is easy.

[@Jayhawker2000]

@@jontay4199 I don't mind it either. I'm just saying it could be better. It's a fair criticism of the game. And people who criticize the tree aren't necessarily asking for a less complex game.

[@theperfectbeing]

@@jontay4199 Yeah that's going to fail you in a hurry come late game. I guarantee that 99% of players who think they have a good build will have to completely abandon it for min maxed meta builds solved by the community in order to do any of the elite bosses. It's exactly what happened in PoE1 Eventually what happens is you get multiple layers of interactions of abilities, defensive procs, movement synergy, etc and that requires specialized node gems, and splitting talents across multiple sections of the trees to squeeze every ounce of performance from the characters. Asmon has been on record saying a 100 times over for PoE 1, "Guys do not try to do your own builds, you will brick the character and fail, follow a damn guide and thank me later"

[@Kuzka_]

@@jontay4199 In my opinion, the passive tree visibility was better in poe1. Poe2 needs another "zoom out" option where you don't see nodes, but only paths and the shapes are actual images, like there's the crossbow shape at the very bottom, make it as an actual crossbow in a zoom out+. Kind of like the constallations in last epoch

[@brodrickflowers117]

Wait, people give a shit what IGN thinks?? Is this still early 2000's??

[@KiffJRockka]

content creators like asmon can't stop talking about them, he is inexperienced you know, he has been playing the same game all his life.

[@sandboy5880]

Because Asmonjew-kun wants to create some drama no matter the price.

[@rhetorical1973]

⁠maybe it’s cause they gave dragon age a 9/10 even tho it’s the most garbage dumpster pile ever

[@matthewbouton5121]

Ez content

[@Mxlch999]

I mean you just clicked on a video talking about ign you one of them 😂

[@addisonrwest]

If Asmongold can figure the game out then I 100% agree it's not that complex.

[@demoth]

Asmon was a law student who now own by 20 different companies and leader of his own organization. Being stupid is merely his brand

[@paulysmallz8095]

@@demothexactly

[@Dr_Mundo]

​@@demothyeah but he isn't particularly good at games.

[@lolllllll]

10:57 I grew up playing Diablo 1, then Diablo 2 and Diablo 2: LoD Then D3 came out, it was a different feel but I kept playing. Then D4 came out and it was better than D3 but it was still missing something that D2 gave so many of us. I played PoE a little bit but didn't stay for long. I purchased PoE 2 early access and I think it's better than both D3 and D4. GGG finally managed to give us a Diablo 3 worth playing, I've already invested more in the beta than D4. IGN is over critical about a beta, almost like someone at Blizzard paid them off for their silly remarks. When a PoE beta is better than a full game (diablo 4), it deserves recognition of that. IGN is dogwater and the fact they're playing those weak builds emphasizes that.

[@LawfulBased]

IGN gets a 7 out of a 100 from me. And no suit.

[@Nope-w2h]

A suit of armor?

[@tboon9399]

Those that know what the suit means know... 😏

[@Bassalicious]

careful, frogs are extremist symbols now lol

[@Zaque-TV]

Suit? Is that this quarters new word people are saying now?

[@LawfulBased]

@@Zaque-TV The suit is a reference to the man behind "Sungrand Studios".

[@voodjin]

They give PoE2 a 8, but gave Dragon Age Failguard a 9 LMAO

[@Blackbirdone11]

From a game standpoint if you are real and critical. Dragon age is better. If you put politics in and the stuff around it dragon age is not a 9. Its simple Poe is far far far from dragon age currently. Even de not as good Story telling of dragon age is light years ahead of poe. But dragon age on a scale is not a 9 becaus its more an 8 and poe is more a 7. Lets be real and not blind by fanboy bs. Poe is far from be a perfect game. Even diablo in the current state is better. But in the future? Poe surly outpasses diablo. But from what we see play and know now its a 7 to 8 maximum.

[@TheRetrostorian]

​@@Blackbirdone11 Diablo 4 is objectively bad after 9 seasons. PoE 2 will go down as the greatest RPG of all time, finally overtaking D2. To say that D4 is better than even half of PoE2 is ridiculous.

[@tgyo99]

Asmongold gave D4 a 9/10....

[@exhermit]

@@Blackbirdone11the game is still in beta and these people expect everyone to regard it as a masterpiece. Also, I love how all reviews are supposedly comparisons and not standalone opinions on individual games.

[@dougfax]

@@Blackbirdone11 you cant disgard the things you mentioned in dragon age because the game is A RPG, story matters, if the story is bad the game cant be a 9

[@themomaw]

I don't think it's weird that ARPG players would want to find their own loot instead of relying on trading with other people to smooth out bad RNG. Last Epoch does a better job with this, by making it an explicit choice: Do you want to solo find, or do you want to trade? And there's a whole progression system focused on making either trading or solo-finding more productive.

[@leon6257]

Its nice to see Asmon the person who never reads tutorials , in every game goes with his head first , tells IGN to take it slow ....

[@mufasafalldown8401]

So... ur like... defending ign?....

[@Potato_Prophet]

@@mufasafalldown8401 He's saying someone who is renowned for going too fast is recognizing someone else going too fast. It's ironic and a big finger to IGN. Not sure how you managed to twist that around, lol

[@blacknight0003]

​@@Potato_Prophetit does look like an IGN defender

[@FiXzu621]

​@@blacknight0003 as much as i love asmon, he do love speeding through tutorial/explanation and then get confused later. its not about defending its about stating the obvious fact ( that somehow it still went above people's head apparently )

[@bandawin18]

​@@FiXzu621 it's funny how he plays games the exact opposite way he reacts to videos. If there's text on screen in a game he's probably not reading it but if there's any text at all on a video he's gotta pause and read the whole thing and then think about it before continuing 🤣

[@palmsk123]

no Diversity got 8/10

[@_Lumiere_]

what about the maraketh girlbosses though xD

[@banishedbr]

@@_Lumiere_ for that they would have to have CRITERIA and REASON

[@janisarbidans8931]

Tbf in normal world this is an accurate rating for unfinished game. Like i got more than 7k hours in poe1 and poe2 is very good but it has far too many problems to be anything above 7 or 8. Its funny how good at rating games IGN is when they are not getting paid.

[@patrikomelka3918]

@@janisarbidans8931 true xD

[@maineman5757]

It does have diversity though i think

[@RobDaKid87]

Most elitist and arrogant video I've ever seen from him. Just say everything anybody does that is different from you is wrong and everyone else is stupid. I mean damn. This could've been a 10 second short.

[@DarthRadical]

Am I the only one who likes having fewer loot drops? I hate games where I'm overwhelmed with loot and need to go back to town every 30 seconds.

[@ArkhonXIX]

I don’t completely disagree but crafting materials, especially the meaningful ones are moon rocks. Two things that have helped, I’ve picked up some rare find armor pieces which have noticeably helped and that they know it’s too low. I minor, and I think minor tweaked up will help. I’ve got two level 34 characters and am constantly out of stuff. Love the game so far. I wouldn’t call it too difficult (it is harder than the normal mindless left clicky ARPG) but it’s incredibly engaging, which is awesome

[@DarthRadical]

@@ArkhonXIX Yeah - I hate the mindlessness of most ARPGs. I tried to get into Diablo 3 with my buddies - I couldn't do it.

[@DooM7k]

You're not supposed to pick up every item. You only take what you need. People often misunderstand this, but games like these are never about collecting every single item dropped by every mob

[@webeechamin1167]

Nope, I feel that way too. We’re not crybabies that want the rarest drops with every monster you come across, then complain that it’s too easy. I can’t wait until the newbies finally go away and we can all enjoy the game for what it is. It’s nice to finally be able to play a game that pays off after you grind and you can trade the things you don’t want.

[@aggsar4411]

The games with more loot don't result in being overwhelmed and going back to town. They result in stricter filters.

[@Tiago_Havoc]

PoE2 skill tree is proportionaly smaller than the tree in PoE1 because we now have 12 classes, PoE1 had 7.

[@soundtorial4567]

True, and there are way less "complex" notables that would need an understanding of the deeper game mechanics. Poe 2 tree is super noob friendly, it's just big and these journalists love saying that lol

[@EmpyreanDreamer]

@@soundtorial4567 Even the old one isn't that complex. A lot of it is very simple or even superficial to some degree. I feel like its just meant for that moment of shock the first time you open it. There are other games which look very simple in comparison which in reality have way more build possibilities and crazy complicated interactions many of which will require a lot of research to understand. Great example of that is Warframe which is essentially an ARPG at its core just as a third person shooter. Someone who hasn't played that game would be shocked how far down the rabbit hole you can go, deserves a lot more eyes on it honestly.

[@grit1]

POE2 skill tree is also utter dog shit filled with highways way too bloated and way too many guardrails, too many random nodes with extra downsides for no real reason. Nodes are pathetic compared to POE1.

[@ykmnkmi]

New here, but does it count as a skill tree if it also includes stat points?

[@demoth]

Itll probably grow. This is early access afterall

[@BangNotThunder]

I dont see the issue with rerunning the acts. Rerunning them making new classes anyways. Game is awesome.

[@bryanburdick2508]

Yup , it's like mid new game plus

[@DayOfCasual]

Asmond seems to be missing that the review is from BEFORE EA LAUNCH. You can't buy tabs there, you can't trade with other players there too.

[@TheRealPat316]

Careful, people gonna say you're defending IGN.

[@wakaryoku]

Also day 2 had a patch for loot. I'm not defending, but I'm sure it would be higher if it was done based on the game today

[@christopherhall619]

8:10 Not asmon saying you should read stuff in the game lmao. Bro cant read a tutorial in every other game

[@christopherhall619]

Also Asmon saying its good because you can trade is so bad when ggg dont have a way to trade without third party and have said they dont really want to add it in the past

[@locutus6437]

It's an honest review. Asmon is wrong here. The review is clearly about the game as it is NOW. In this state it's fair to receive an 8/10. When finished it will probably be a 10/10.

[@GtheBossMann]

GGG gotta pull a Barve if they want that 9/10.

[@blackcitadel37]

just sparkle some girlboss here and there and it's 10/10

[@x-0ticx281]

"maps are procedurally generated" more like, they just keep rotating that shit every time it loads a new seed.

[@skolpionek4848]

Yeah thats what it means

[@mr.motivation3797]

It changes too. I've seen it. Spider lair near an exit was next to the exit. Next time it was in the center of the map nowhere near the exit.

[@Muppet-kz2nc]

PoE2s procedurally generated maps end up with a lot of roads to nowhere. It gets really annoying with the increased map size. Like bad ai.

[@kintsugi3932]

no thats d4

[@0neDoomedSpaceMarine]

Diablo 2 did basically that.

[@ravercorum20]

When he says "complicated" he means that there's a lot of information you need to sit down and synthesize before you can fully comprehend what it is that you're playing. He doesn't mean that you need to be a masters student to engage with the skill tree - just that the knowledge floor to get into the series is higher than most will have the patience for. Which is true, most people want instant gratification and any investment into learning the plethora of fundamentals within the game even after so much has been trimmed and streamlined from the first game; the barrier to entry is still great. You say yourself that you should never underestimate the stupidity of the average person, well? That's still true here.

[@blondiwithstyle]

I have 1500 hours in PoE 1 and I've killed The Shaper with a homebrewed non-meta 2h lacerate slayer build. I, for the love of god, could not make my warrior in PoE 2 work well between level 1-35. Sure, I downed every boss that I encountered, but the harder bosses took me around 20 minutes per boss because I did so low damage. Playing summoner witch and spell caster sorc then saying the game is "easy and not complicated" is just ignorant tbh. Melee/warrior is incredibly underwhelming at low levels, ranged is easy mode.

[@TryNotToDieOmega]

I do think POE skill trees are complex. I don't think thats unfair, relative to other games. Yes, the approach to managing the skill tree is relatively simple, but getting to know all the possible ways of enhancing your character is a whole learning process. This is obviously part of the game, and it is part of the skill expression, but it isn't an unfair statement to say that it is complex. It is complex, and learning is part of the fun. This is what a complex system looks like when it is done very well. So that should be the point. We shouldn't run from calling it complex. We should instead use this as a reason to show other devs how to turn complexity into growth and fun in a way that isn't punishing.

[@banishedbr]

when i find a rpg, i always want more, give me more options, poe does that ence why best arpg, if you think what they call complexity is bad ppl should find a story game or adventure

[@BobaDavis]

If you've played FFX, this is right up your alley.

[@TheRealValdil]

Compared to PoE1 its not very complex, deffinatly made easier for the general gamer.

[@Stratos1988]

I watched assmongool 10 hour video on first starting the game, and as much as like the guy, there is no space for him to sit there and be like "lemme explain in layman's terms" while he himself was for a about an hour saying multiple times "I don't know what to do, I litterally don't". Him being him, it might have been a part of troll act, but proof is in the pudding.

[@TheRetrostorian]

​@@Stratos1988 "I don't know what to do and need to figure it out" is good game design. You've just proved the positive.

[@BrimstoneVomit]

I think the only reason longer term players feel like the game is "complex" is because they're using the meta-build expectations of PoE1 as a measuring stick. It's easy to make a valid, fun build. It's a little crunchier to piece together the subtleties in such a way that breaks the game. Newer players probably call it complex because the systems are dauntingly big, especially the skill tree. But once you just play the game and take it one step at a time, it's remarkably approachable.

[@ryu_lidu]

Yeah, the tree itself is big but most nodes are super straightforward

[@CDMaccles]

Yeah, as far as the skill tree goes, I said it looked quite complex, and my 8yr old (big fan of poe1) said "It's not too bad, I understand it" So if an 8yr old can, it can't be too complicated

[@BertoxolusThePuzzled]

You just have to NOT plan too far ahead and instead plan for occasional skill resets as further nodes become available. If at any given time you just focus on the nearest current node or cluster of nodes that benefits you it's not bad at all, you just need to reoptimize every so often.

[@Vertigou]

POE2 seems more intricate than difficult, especially compared to POE1

[@Zaque-TV]

It's much less complex than poe 1

[@Vertigou]

@@Zaque-TV poe1 has unnecessary complexity, the removal of health nodes in the passive skill tree is a massive improvement imho

[@UndeadFleshgod]

Formally reviewing an Early Access game in itself is ridiculous, the review will be obsolete in a couple weeks after a couple patches.

[@Th3Doge]

Never played an ARPG before but played poe 1 for 35 minutes got bored with the controls and movement. Played POE 2 and couldn’t put it down so definitely a top tier game fs as a new player to the category

[@offworlder461]

Any rating above 7/10 from IGN doesn't mean anything when pretty much every major game they review is at least a 7/10

[@raviel498]

8:10 Funny how he is the one saying that.

[@Guns4pickax]

Lmao your comment popped up as soon as he said it. True tho 😂

[@paullavery8894]

8:10. 8/10. I see what you did there. 😲

[@ninles1]

Poe2 is already in my top 6. I'm putting it up with ff7, baldur's gate 3, mass effect trilogy, Allen wake one, and res evil 2 remake

[@ok3029]

As a pretty much first-time PoE player, I give this game a 10/10 just for having detailed and comprehensive tooltips. I never once had to google shit because everything is explained in-game, something a lot of devs could learn about.

[@MikeyJ28]

I don’t think you understand what made Path of Exile the most successful ARPG for the last 14 years. It wasn’t its tutorials, it was the depth and community efforts to provide information.

[@varesin2978]

​@@MikeyJ28 And nowe we're getting the same thing plus the tooltips. Win-win

[@Kuzka_]

Trust me, it's still not enough lol.

[@SKizzleAXE]

IGN gave it 8/10? So lets get down to the comment section and see what the real experts think

[@lyianx]

I wouldnt.. it will give their shit video views and make them think people want to see more of that crap.

[@Guitar-Dog]

I really like it, I was a casual PoE player maybe only played 200 hours 😂😂 The game feel is much better, can't tell you why though. I really like the change to skills at the moment, think it will make it easier to explain to my friends... My friends would give up when they didn't have sockets for all there skill gems.. It's probs a 10/10 for what they are trying to do

[@hydra_drizz2164]

Honestly i probably give it an 8 too but remember this is early access which is still really good so i think when the full game comes out it should be higher

[@Guitar-Dog]

@@hydra_drizz2164 I didn't even realize it was early access until earlier today 😂 I thought it was like early access and would be released next week

[@AdaraTheBandit]

Being given gear for classes you aren't playing could also coax players to branch out their play style or even shift their build to something else entirely.

[@MorrowProduction]

It's what happens when you release an unfinished product with the intention of using early access to adjust your balancing. Your ratings are going to be what the game is, not what it could be in 6-12 months. In less than 24 hours, most classes had a massive core change to it that any playtester, and developer, shit any person in the office could of discovered if they just sat down and played their own game in a non controlled test developmental environment. Something as simple as the supercharged slam, quite possibly the most common melee skill used in the entirety of all melee builds was deemed "unintentionally strong as is." So the most common used melee skill in the game was never tested at scale? You never had a single person on your team start a level 1 warrior and play through that part of the skill tree?

[@dextrophantom]

How dare you give criticism to POE2

[@ryu_lidu]

Bro they nerfed SRS -> minion on death -> fire spell -> more SRS loop lmao Like it's the most obvious thing in the world, it was the first interaction I thought about once I saw how the new SRS worked

[@MorrowProduction]

@@ryu_lidu I'm amazed and at the same time I'm not. It's crazy that the developers need thousands of twitch streamers playing the game in order to identify what is too powerful or not. It's just lazy developmental oversight, they can't see the forest from the trees, even though they grew the damn forest and planted every single tree. The devs should have been wholly aware of broken gameplay loops, overpowered skills, under-powered skills, and basically everything they have changed within the first week of EA.

[@_Phat_Pat_]

@@MorrowProduction Agreed. It's awesome to see GGG make all the changes so quickly (loot, checkpoints, etc.) but it does beg the question: how did you not find this in years of testing, multiple events, etc. There's clearly a line - waiting too long to implement needed changes can kill a game. But if in less than 72 hours you buff loot, why wasn't it there from the start? Like the Dreadnaught checkpoint - I had to let a friend join my game and get the waypoint in the next zone because he died constantly, with the leaping monsters that surround you on tight bridges. But how did not one developer run into this same issue?

[@t.a.g.6202]

IGN is a meme in itself...

[@jgalvan09]

And yet all the Karen’s are crying about 8/10 😂😂😂

[@elcirco9661]

you can't spell ignorance without IGN

[@CloudGoesUpp]

Never forget that IGN gave Concord a 7

[@JFinns]

They also gave Alien Isolation a 5.9 and Diablo 4 a 9...

[@TheDSSlayer]

4:30 tbh this advice if you followed when making your warrior you might of done damage, but instead you chose to build life most the time then proceeded to complain about lacking damage and then quit lol

[@saintsword23]

For an EA game this is an easy 10/10. I agree you have to rate the game based on it being in EA and not based on it being a finished product.

[@reykjawik4764]

2:25 bewary of act 3 spoiler

[@wils1426]

Too late

[@upsetcucumber8700]

@@reykjawik4764 put like 2:10

[@dustinkirkham1010]

I saw this as I got spoiled ☠️

[@TheDrewSilver]

Too late lol

[@HERBnKAOS]

Too late 😭

[@Ebolanation]

Early access for this game is far better then the majority of full released games. Easy 9/10 in its current form. Guaranteed 10/10 once completed. Legendary game

[@koynov333]

Yea yea sure, the legendary game which already lost 100K concurent players for 2 days. Please, it's a good game but legendary xd You are clearly hardcore POE fan :)

[@Ebolanation]

@koynov333 Both my wife and I love poe 2. You are not going to believe this, but we hate poe1. It is not that crazy that we love this game. I know i know, someone with a different opinion then your own. Wild Question for you…so how is this an 8, but dragon age is higher? I think 9 is fair. Once completed with the full story, tweaks, and classes its going to be far better then its current iteration.

[@Buggolious]

@@koynov333 seems to be hovering around 480k consistently

[@Nectazumor]

Remember, Concord was a 7/10 .

[@QQWoLPHie]

I thought the story was lackluster. It's I don't play these games for story but it would have been nicer to have like that. Cinematic polish and somehow I'd like to be able to listen to it while I play instead of having to stand there at the NPC

[@MartinWoad]

This is by design. This game is meant to be replayed multiple times, so the story is as non-intrusive as possible. Compare that to D4 where 3/4 of the game is spent in scripted cutscenes.

[@chrisketchum6595]

Agreed, the game is fun so far but even D4 story had a better hook right off the bat

[@TheRetrostorian]

​@@MartinWoadOr, compared to D4, let's show Inarius, who was in the OG manual of D1, and not even get to fight him and merx him off screen in a cutscene. 😂 Terrible game I can't wait for blizzard to get shut down forever.

[@kenzie.015]

Is the story final or are they gonna add it to the final release?

[@kenzie.015]

For me, its kinda half the fun if your character doesnt have a goal or mission to be stronger

[@Robloxify69]

IGN gave 8/10

[@TJTRIZZ]

The problem is alot of casuals use them as gospel

[@Wintercide]

DA:V got a 9 lmfao

[@Its_Syxx]

IGN complaining that you find items for other class? Best thing they did was allow this. I love being able to farm things and find stuff for alts.

[@rudolfgernd8760]

4:15 It is. People from PoE1 and now in PoE2 recommend using a guide or base build for the first run. There's no denying it. The skill tree is very complex and the biggest obstacle for new players.

[@xDeathCrownx]

No it aint you gotta stop zooming out on the skill tree if you that scared obviously if you zoom in it doesnt look that bad but if you want to be scared go ahead and zoom out 😂

[@BertoxolusThePuzzled]

Exactly this. When I first zoomed out I felt overwhelmed but as I continued to level up I realized that only the few nodes in realistic range actually matter at any particular time, at least until I get to the endgame stuff and need to optimize.

[@Kuzka_]

Imagine looking at a map of a city and thinking you have to remember every path and building. You just need to search where things you want are.

[@IXIFrostIXI]

I’d give it a 6-7 with potential for a 9-10. I think they are generous

[@SyntheticCK]

Says the loot is stingy, the immediately says you have to portal to town to sell every 2 minutes.

[@animelt_official]

Is this the Diablo like game everyone is talking about?

[@Zemlja_je_ravna]

What is Diablo game?

[@blahblahblah9507]

*exile-like

[@Sumi_S]

What the hell is Diablo

[@webeechamin1167]

Diablo what? Never heard of it.

[@Nemissis4265]

Yep. And even more boaring. No narrative no text no NOTHING. Fall asleep after 30 minuts lol

[@ChosenPlaysYT]

GGG must not have pushed “the message” hard enough in their dialogue and context.

[@Krakengandr]

I really hate when people say the the passive tree is super confusing (I used to be like that) it's really not. The only thing that's confusing is figuring out wtf you want to put your point into once you see some other passive you want to use first.

[@Mr.Neko1]

I’m surprised IGN gave POE2 an 8. It sounds like the reviewer is complaining about the game most of the time.

[@HIDAN228]

To be fair i would have given it less than them😅 at least until the dodge roll changes and loot changes. Plus when he played there were no builds made by the community

[@bencheung3036]

I would give a 8 to Poe 2, it has lots of potential, but also lots of bugs and bad designs

[@theperfectbeing]

That's exactly where I stand as well but there are too many ego driven GGG meat riders to talk about actual game mechanic quality. Trying to tell them that long animation windows hurt melee too much and sometimes abilities fail to land entirely, they'll just tell you it's a skill issue instead of actually assessing the game mechanic relative to the other classes. It's demented

[@An.Unsought.Thought]

4:47 See this would not be an issue for most people if you could respect, for free and at will. Sure, maybe they could make you have to be at a town hub area... whatever. But it should still be something that is easily done whenever you want and without any struggle. Especially so that people can fine tune their builds themselves. Otherwise everyone wants to look at wikis for pre made builds because they are too afraid to screw up. It becomes spreadsheets of exile. Its not a good experience. The devs listened to players for other stuff, I hope they do this too. Just make respecing free and allow for infinite respecs and changes. If I'm fine tuning a build, I want to be able to subtract points in nodes I feel arent making too much of a difference in place of nodes that might be better for me. Its as simple as that. If people want a hardcore mode where they can't repec and there is a perma death, give them that mode separately or something. But at least make the game more accessible to players in a way that matters. Not being able to fine tune your builds freely, surely pushes players away from the game. That is something that pushed me away from PoE 1.

[@jt9565]

Finally Asmon gets the point that the game is not that fucking hard, it just takes for you to read for 30 seconds and just think what you are doing in combat and that's it...

[@chadwilliams4373]

some boss fights are challenging. some map mob density and arrangement is also fun gameplay. finding it easier to make my own build in this one than poe1 too.

[@MrAnony07]

My only problem is the amount of 1 shots in boss fights is kinda just dumb, like my build has a lot going on screen so it's difficult to see what's going on sometimes and I'll be farming a boss 15lvls lower than my lvl and I'll still get 1-shotted sometimes from a attack I couldn't see because the boss did the attack off screen because it's to dang zoomed in to see everything and I'm rocking almost 2K shield at this point were rare monsters my lvl can't do shit to me but bosses 20lvl lowers can 1-shot me. It makes shield health and armor almost useless for the majority of the game for bosses.

[@jt9565]

@MrAnony07 totally agree with the one shots part

[@MarkGurevich]

2 faces of Asmon: Sharing his opinion: "guys, ofc it's easy for you, u hardcore players with decades of experience, but you shouldn't be the baseline" Reaction on videos: "What do you mean its hard? just think what you need and choose the right option"

[@annojance]

He knows how to farm content, that's for sure. It's IGN, so he wants to meme on them so bad that it takes away his objectivity.

[@Chromodar]

"I don't have the intelligence to understand this skill tree... I'll search for intelligence nodes and put points into them."

[@Draux.]

I paused at 1:52, did he really said 60 hours to finish the campaign??? Lil bro was high on crack when he was playing or what..

[@tempestfrost4213]

Nothing wrong with taking your time. I’m at 20h and just reach act2

[@fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu9577]

He said it took over 60 hrs of play until he found his first unique. Jeez, man. You're almost as bad at listening as IGN are at writing.

[@zotix3855]

Imagine saying lil bro in daily conversation as a well adjusted adult.

[@taylorkrueger751]

60 hours for both difficulties he said. So 30 for each run.

[@pewpschute]

9:38 Loot tied to your class is lame, dude gave himself away.

[@Zeromodulation]

@@pewpschute while true is it really game balanced when you can collect rares and higher, maybe a dozen, before one that remotely even works for your class, much less build?

[@MikeyJ28]

@@ZeromodulationWhen you can trade and craft yes.

[@Zeromodulation]

@@MikeyJ28 It’s not open for a debate as to what is the state; GGG has already acknowledged. If you’re forcing trade in a game that has dedicated single player type modes, then why isn’t there increased and specific loot drops for SSF? This is arbitrary and shouldn’t be a job. Not every weapon or armor should be relevant to your character but if you can go through an entire Act and half of your equipment is still relatively the same, is that really what the players want? Rhetorical question since it’s already changing

[@MikeyJ28]

@ You’re joking right? Because SSF was intended to be a challenge mode. If they balanced around SSF, it would ruin the entire point of playing it for most people. SSF is the version you play when you’re more skilled and knowledgeable. You have to craft your own gear.

[@boxingnerd-007]

@@ZeromodulationI absolutely agree. I hate Constantly picking up the same stupid hammer while I’m playing a witch build. Like bro, what the fuck am I supposed to do with this? Sell it and get shit gold? And why would I want to get out of the game just trade that item when I want to be playing the game instead? I don’t understand why people enjoy this concept

[@Nemissis4265]

Wow realy gave it a better score than Black myth lmfao

[@hexamoon1499]

Oh, noo, ign is here.

[@Triixster]

Why do people still care about IGN reviews when it has been known for YEARS they are terrible reviewers?

[@Whistler112]

Entertainment

[@PhazeyBlur]

Because their review holds a lot of weight, especially towards the final score on Metacritic. [Like it or not, average gamers refer to MC's scores a lot] Not saying that i like it, but it's the reality that we live in crappy times where big corpos holds so much power and control.

[@mrkarate8134]

For a unfinished game to get a 8 out of 10 isn't bad at all. Just imagine how good the game will be once it's fully completed

[@mleong75]

They need to fix the constant crashing of the game via (D3D12 texture crash)

[@Natzawa]

I have noticed this as well with DX12. I switched it to Vulkan and that stopped. No more crashes.

[@Nick-E1v2]

IGN. Ignorant Game News.

[@HaIsKuL]

This is IGN. They couldn't figure out that the beeping of the motion sensor attracted the alien while you're hiding, in Alien: Isolation, and said it was too hard.

[@jim.rnilsen9]

The skills system isn't too complex but it's overwhelming and a lot of people have a fear of "chosing wrong"/ending up with a suboptimal build, and it's too big to grasp it easily. I'm not saying it's a bad thing looking up builds or a bit of time is all that required

[@spazbog123]

The complexity is that an extremely large potion of the populace are incapable of or lose the ability to read when their screen has a game running on it.

[@nikitakudyk9384]

To be fair it's hard to properly evaluate PoE2 complexity for any veteran PoE1 player

[@Kuzka_]

They added more information, but it's misleading. Or just doesn't work, like my aggreviated bleed unique body armour. Might be EA thing

[@xerpenta]

The reason for dropping loot not intended for your character has two main reasons. First, it's so that you can play multiplayer and the non-damage dealing characters can get geared too. Second, because it was always a nerdy fantasy, about dropping a great item that does nothing for you, but you could make another character...

[@raigamer1415]

As a new player who has bounced of of PoE1 multiple times (moderately low ARPG experience over all. Early endgame D4 content and a little bit of Grim Dawn) I find PoE2 to be INSANELY beginner friendly and well paced. Dont overwhelm yourself with build guides the game tells you everything you need to know and introduces mechanics appropriately. My favorite thing about the game is the tooltips, because unlike D4 they tell you almost EVERYTHING you need. "Skill HITS for LIGHTNING DAMAGE and has a chance to SHOCK" "PROJECTILES hit for FIRE DAMAGE and can IGNITE" what does any of that mean? just click the highlighted words for complete easy to understand breakdowns. Amazing.

[@Gholladay]

Although I just started a new character and realized that everything from your stash appears in the new play throughs. This makes the stash tabs an even nicer add on

[@hmgdude1590]

Asmon, i don't watch you much, but I agree. This is the result of a lot of games being too easy or not deep enough. it's not like our generation where we played old World of Warcraft before it got gutted (my opinion). these complaints are based on immediate gratification instead of growing and learning. For me, First game in a long time that kept me engaged and learning.

[@emersont503]

8:37 im brand new to ARPGs. This is the first time I’ve ever played a game like this. It took me about 3 hours to grasp how most things work !!!

[@frankrochefort8265]

Totally agree that early access games shouldn’t have scored review, since they’re incomplete and can change a lot until launch

[@OffMetaProfessor]

I think 8.5 is a fair rating, with the really quick patches the game could quickly become a 9/10 before full launch.

[@rogerplourde1151]

8/10 is a fair review i think it mean good keeping in mind that they didnt reinvent the wheel as well

[@Orinocomplex]

Right now after the patch my character is borderline unplayable on ps5. Every time I teleport or use a way point the game shuts off. I created a new character to test it and everything is fine. The patch basically ruined my main game. Dunno how to fix it.

[@lj1653]

"the loot was stingy but I was going back to town every 2 minutes to sell loot" hey genius you don't have to pick up everything get a loot filter

[@i_inf0din254]

I also agree, if you are reviewing a not finished game, there needs to be a * next to that 8 and unless they fumble the ball hard on launch, it should only go up from there. This could easily make a 9.5-10 out of 10 if the reviewer waited to play on launch of the full game.

[@tonymontana3045]

The best vine I have heard regarding poe2 was “it’s hard, you have to pay attention and think a lot”, lmfao

[@edl4654]

15:22 Unpopular opinion: even if a game is in early access it should still be rated as a full game as the company puplishes a game that costs money to buy. They should make it bug and lag free and obviously packed with enough content that its worth the money. The fact that it is in early access should mean that major concepts and features can change and that the game will be expended upon, but im tired of early access being an excuse to market unfinished games and thats it. Btw not saying poe2 isn't worth your money, buy it NOW. Just generalising and can't agree with asmons opinion

[@dogfishlol]

Maybe the reason we have to play the campaign twice is because act 4-6 is not finished yet and once they are out it will just be one playthrough?

[@MattOfSmith]

If you don't want your game to get a numbered review before it's finished, don't release it to the public before it's done.

[@monkedeezy7356]

i disagree with the point made at 15:40 about rating the game on design intention rather than current gameplay availability. I think that rating the game as it is right now is all that they can do authentically even if it is only in early access I think it's ok to give a rating so long as they contextualize it as such.