BEST Upcoming Survival Base Building Games 2023 & 2024͏͏ | Asmongold Reacts

Top 10 Upcoming Survival Base Building Games for 2023 & 2024
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[@DerelictsGame]

Hey Asmongold! Derelicts dev here! Glad you like how the game looks so far! It's really giving a lot of motivation. Have a great week! Romain

[@redragon9588]

it looks really good just don't make it too similar to the forest

[@Ger0n1m0]

but could you imagine it ends up being a hit? If they listen to player base and take their time they could absolutely release something really good. if a Dev truly is here then that means they are at least researching what people want to see, taking notes and polishing. @@Bisgetti

[@RemyRivers]

Looks good man, keep going!!! Im just starting to learn using a game engine, and im impressed!

[@thg_o7]

Please tell me you are a zoolander fan 🤣 "Derelict my balls" hahaha, game looks clean af tho cant wait to try it out man 👏

[@RavenStarrsEpicExplores]

I'm looking forward to the game it looks good & I love the building aspects. I wish you great success in its development!

[@RobinLundqvist]

Valheim really did miss out on an online feature, very true. I'm still excited for them adding difficulty levels and permadeath, I will play nothing but valheim for years if it's actually a challenging experience.

[@asmosisyup2557]

I scratch my head every time i see this. If you want permadeath just delete the save if you die, its pretty simple.

[@borispsalman]

there is an option to change difficulty and enable hardcore mode, im not sure if it was there since the beginning or they added it later

[@Spadez86]

I want to be hype for these games.. but I learned my lesson back when Fable came out reading about what they claimed you could do in the game informer... Then the same happened when No Mans Sky came out Over Promise, Under Deliver

[@nicholasreynolds6609]

Dwarven Legend sounds good, but only on the Epic Game Store is a no-go for me, unless they release it free.

[@ulamss5]

22:30 fractured veil, not shattered veil

[@nordictrolls]

So awesome that you looked at this. You can fully control your camera in Under a Rock, from close to very far, center, left or right and first person is planned! Thank you for taking a look Asmongold!

[@Enternalsin]

Glad to hear!

[@hiilikeyourbeard]

firsrt person!? SOLD

[@nordictrolls]

First person is planned @@hiilikeyourbeard

[@entelin]

Developer here: The reason why so many (particularly indie) games struggle with multiplayer is because it's fundamentally structural to your engine. It's not something you can "just do later". It impacts literally every part of how you build something. So if you hear about a game saying they don't have multiplayer yet but they are "working on it" or it's "coming after launch" NOPE, you can just toss that idea out, if it happens at all it will be garbage. To put this in perspective, there is one recent counter-example: Stardew Valley. He promised multiplayer in his kickstarter, he wrote an article on his experience trying to get 4 player coop into the game. He spend months on his own trying to learn network coding and such but eventually gave up. He then hired a network developer and they worked together for a year to implement it. In the end they had rewritten 70% of the code base and had pretty functional (though not great) 4 player coop. Needless to say, such a heroic effort to make good on a promise and implement a feature most people don't care about (for a game like Stardew) is exceptionally rare.

[@M_TELEDO1212]

Exactly, very astute and accurate analysis. Any game that makes the sort of promises that Fractured Veil did (22:27) immediately raises my bullshit detector. Guaranteed this game is going to be a disaster when it releases in early-access, if it releases at all. Too many promises, too many features, and supposedly in a MMO style world. No way.

[@entelin]

@@Donovarkhallum Yes, that's why I mentioned it. It's rare, but when it happens it's a rewrite nearly from scratch.

[@jarmaro2182]

Wouldn't No Man's Sky be the most cited counter-example for this? Multiplayer for launch turned out to be a lie, but then they developed it anyway later on.

[@entelin]

@@jarmaro2182 Yeah, that's another example. Did they write about that at all?

[@jootai]

Stranded deep implemented cobop aswell very late, years after it's release.

[@PSYMEDIC]

Enshrouded is the only one i would probably buy. Most of the other games were either not really my thing or looked like 90% of all other survival games. Also am i the only one that is bothered by the horrible fov in some of these games? It lookes like i can see ony half the things in front of me.

[@masterrzeke]

Honestly same. The only promising game right now looks to be Enshrouded and Dwarven Legend. Others either look utterly terrible (looking at you Shattered Veil, it's 2023 and the game looks like 7 days to die) or they just seem like HEAVY copying other games. Especially the last one, Grand Emprise, one developer? That amount of buildings and progress by one guy? It's either done in like 15 years, or it's released early and it's going to be shit as fuck. Buggy, low fps, trash mechanics, not working properly. That's what I honestly expect from that game if dev team doesnt get bigger. But if that game turns out great, i'm putting thousands of hours into that shit.

[@NILBOG13]

I played the demo twice, Enshrouded is going to be so good.

[@yavantii3615]

@@NILBOG13 this aged pretty well.

[@yous2244]

​@@yavantii3615 it actually is good, Palworld was just too unexpected

[@TheSilentTiger89]

The combat looks worse than fable on the original Xbox. Don’t expect it to succeed much.

[@otrupper4869]

Survival Base building games are cool but they are almost always bare, lackluster and you spend more time gathering than actually building and exploring or quest plots.

[@xxxsimpai]

It honestly bugs the shit out of me when I see a genuinely good game made by 1 dev, that gets more significant updates in a more consistent manner than multi-million dollar studios.

[@Gusativo]

Dang, Valheim is about be swallowed by its competition. Which is probably nice, might motivate the devs to finish their game.

[@m4ur1r4g3]

we are again at a point where you can see which game uses unreal engine, they all look the same like in the UE3 era lol

[@frasermanley9903]

We need to get all these solo Devs to work on a project together, make it Happen OTK.

[@21preend42]

Epic is one of the worst anti consumer companies out there. They make exclusivity deals with other game companies, which technically should be illegal. Any small store that sells games, wouldn't even be able to do that, it's a practice which aims to make games stores go out of business. It's a monopolistic behavior. Steam is so successful not because they make exclusivity deals, but because they provide such a good service, there isn't a need to use another platform. That's because Steam is actually a private company not like Epic which they are a for profit company only. Any world where Epic gains market share, would be absolutely terrifying for games. Just fucking image, a pay to access features in Epic store. Oh you want to comment? you want to read/review a game? oh you want access to a cool profile. Guess you have to pay up. That's Epic. That's bad.

[@saltissalty3833]

I think Enshrouded looks like it needs work, but I think it could end up being very good if the devs pull their cards right. It looks like my type of game judging from the concept.

[@AverageYTer]

This whole list was good but enshrouded stuck out to me the most.

[@NILBOG13]

@@AverageYTer Did you play the demo? It is a great game so maybe try it before shitting on it.

[@tarik365]

@@NILBOG13 He wasn't even shitting on it lmao, he said among all the games that looked good, enshorouded stuck out as the best looking. Go a bit outside mate

[@NILBOG13]

@@tarik365 Go outside? Jeeze man try a little harder.

[@wcf3d]

2 of the biggest aspects that, imo, modern games/game engines should be focusing on for immersion/entertainment would be physics and interactive environment. They may be content one in the same but the ability to use abilities items that affect characters/npcs and the environment and vice-versa is CRUCIAL. In some magic wielding game you should be able to pull fire from a torch and hit an enemy that burns them "stunning" them and affecting their look, or setting fire to the environment, trees/grass, or even buildings, affecting their look/efficacy, as well. Being able to interact/affect the environment be it structures or the "world" youre in "almost" every way imaginable based on the genre would be so immersive. What is more immersion-breaking than summoning a comet to strike, or launching some type of explosive just for the environment to remain unaffected and your enemy to "fall over" after grunting..?

[@WuvPain]

7:31 I don’t like the animals in this “mars game”, or the plants honestly I see stags and turtles an Venus fly traps. Convergence evolution is a thing I guess but idk

[@pHixiq]

I 10000% agree with you on these games having large monsters is a must for me

[@Bananenbauer123]

I don't necessarily dislike them, but every game that has them runs into problems. Big enemies typically get stuck on terrain constantly. Or cannot chase you into a cave, so you just stand inside and shoot them to death while running out of arrows. Or you build a base and the monster just destroys every structure you've built in a few hits. It typically doesn't lead to great gameplay.

[@leoleo1035]

@@Bananenbauer123 Indeed! In the paper it is awesome, but in-game it is gonna look fucking ugly. Unless the structures are "restored" after the battle, it is going to be more of a frustrating battle than a fun one

[@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4]

Asmons point with Valheim is the exact reason I dont get into survival games much when there isn't a clear goal. Valheim and The Forest/Sons of the Forest are some of the few that I enjoy for those reasons. His take on being able to change things is...odd though. He says he doesn't like games that let you change things and has everyone go through the same experience but says he doesn't like that about V Rising (which kinda has a set experience) while Valheim, although the order of the bosses I believe matter, the experience people have are going to be vastly different as it's procedurally generated so how close the next biome is or how abundant I am in resources is not the same.

[@wickian9571]

The biggest thing holding Valheim back is that it's almost unplayable multiplayer. Unless you get lucky and have a properly modded server, it is impossible to actually play multiplayer without constantly dying to lag or rubberbanding while never being able to damage enemies.

[@Eyrothath]

What Valheim needs is a city building aspect on the side, similar to Banished, when you start building villages etc.. NPCs should start spawning, allowing you to populate a village..

[@leoleo1035]

Asmon is just saying for the sake of saying. He makes no sense rofl

[@RobinLundqvist]

@@wickian9571not opening a door or chest for minutes, repeat that a fee hundred times and all sanity is lost.

[@richardtilbury8211]

@@wickian9571 I don't know what kinda servers you're playing on but I've have no issues with multiplayer in Valheim, and I've played on P2P and server hosted.

[@darkrebel123]

I've become a bit skeptical now whenever I hear that a game is procedurally generated. Don't get me wrong procedurally generated maps can be pretty good like with Valheim. But procedural generated environments have an element of repetition, and lack of character when compared to the counter parts. Like Grounded or Smalland for example, the intentionality that you can pick up on in the map design gives it more depth to the environment than a game like Valhiem.

[@MeggaMann_theBlueLion]

Enshrouded and Nightingale looks the best this far

[@Allexstrasza]

As soon as I hear survival game and early access in the same sentence I blank out.

[@alexandercuna]

Asmon man, people are spamming L because its Epic exclusive, thats why we all hate Epic. You never see anything Steam exclusive. All games should be on all launchers imo. Any exclusive is BS.

[@yoorface4680]

Origin, PS and Xbox laugh on that. xD And steam also have exclusives, lol.

[@greyb5511]

While I too wish for Asmon's suggestion to have 1000 people server's on survival games. It is never gonna happen or is viable just off the fact that each one of those players has the ability to build and craft large amounts of objects into the world.. That one fact alone is what will always have to limit the server population, the world would just be waaay too big and cause too much lag and instability once it becomes filled with added objects and buildings by the players. Take Rust for example, during the last week before wipes the servers usually get insanely laggy and unstable just due to the fact of how much bases have been created in the past weeks/days. What would be cool, is if there is a game that creates an instance/portal type area where all these players could possibly meet up, no crafting or building allowed in this zone. It's just purely for social gathering or possible pvp in certain zones.

[@madola7245]

I also feel like 1000 player server's should be exclusive for MMOs mainly imo.

[@dembi2770]

we might get it eventually, but only when we are going to use quantum computers for games lmfao

[@lilporky8565]

Just limit what an individual can do alone and encourage them to cooperate more.

[@brandonuzumaki]

Just make crafting very realistic, so it takes 10 people one week just to build 1 house hehe.

[@international_hippie]

Rust does this just fine, played plenty of servers with 700-800 people online and in the server playing at once. even at the end, never had issues with lag or unstable server. Need to pick the better servers and update your pc haha.

[@zantsmith4257]

Kinda disappointed that they always fail to link the original video in the details below the video here, cmon it can't be that hard since they grab this off twitch

[@GgGTeMpLaR]

"only one store owns a game and it's unavailable on other stores" -completely fine "game is available on multiple stores including steam" -noo monopoly because everything is on steam

[@jormungandr7885]

I'm gonna be honest, out of all these games, the second one was the only one that looked really interesting to me. Enshrouded. The rest seems kinda lame and boring.

[@iratevagabond204]

LotR: RtM needs to have an option for an opposing team of orcs/trolls that build up in another section of the mountain to contest the dwarves. Both should be able to build up AI warbands to guard and battle against the other team. Also. . . I'll wait till it comes to Steam.

[@secondleasegamer8312]

I understand the argument about Steam being a monopoly and that its good that a competitor like Epic gets something, but the issue is simply that Epic has been around how long now? And they've done exactly what to provide a better service than steam? Epic isn't pro-consumer. The buy exclusivity contracts to try and force people to use their service. But they dont offer any support forums, reviews, or community tools. They dont have a workshop/modding hub, they dont offer any multiplayer server support... The dont have a system in place to flag cheaters and hackers so they cant ruin other games once caught... And NOBODY expects them to have all of these features. But they've literally not even tried to win over users by making their platform better. They buy exclusivity and give away crappy games for free every month and expect people to use their shitty store-front. That is why nobody likes Epic Game Store. They refuse to actually compete. They dont try to offer a better alternative to Steam.

[@mikejones-nd6ni]

The Epic Game Launcher gives away a lot of free games. Some good ones too. I like it. For instance right now Fallout New Vegas ultimate edition is free and Another free mystery game will be dropping in 1 hour. Steam has Never given me anything.

[@M_TELEDO1212]

It's pretty painful to see that 6/11 of these games just look like cash grabs, where the dev promises the world, the sky and even the moon and yet delivers an absolutely subpar version of one out of the three while constantly promising that the other two are coming as the game exists in early-access hell. Meanwhile, it doesn't matter if the other two are coming because the game is built on shit code, store-bought assets with no cohesive art style, mediocre combat and other systems, and 90% of players abandon after a few patches that try to fix horrific bugs that break the game or make the game a total jankfest. With that being said, the 5 that aren't cash grabs look promising!

[@flamerollerx01]

Epic exclusives are always a complete pass for me. There's no good damn reason to make a game exclusive to a stupid launcher/storefront on PC. This is games companies trying to make PC into consoles and make their own walled gardens where they have complete control of everything and it's anti-consumer.

[@abrahamblackmore3115]

Enshrouded is only pre early access and it looks THAT good? Ah fuck I'm hyped. Here we go again.

[@skodengaming2477]

First off, please don't start the video off by picking your nose multiple times. Second I had to stop watching and just go watch the original content as your input usually is I'll timed and honestly annoying. Truly no offense meant, just giving my honest take. Take it or leave it, but I imaging you will ignore it.

[@LateNightStream]

I was able to play the Enshrouded beta. It's pretty good so far. Looking forward to it =) Nightingale I cant say much about due to NDA but its on my Wishlist =D Great video btw!

[@zigzack54]

Forever Scouts... is Subnautica but in the air...

[@AG-jj3lx]

GNS is such a great channel. His Rebirth series was lots of fun!

[@archhexer1111]

Grand Emprise straight up has asset flips from like 4 different games and i'm cackling. What a fucking hot mess.

[@Dead_Goat]

Good news everybody. Under a rock is not gender locked and it also has first person planned which makes it a buy and try rating from me.

[@kurtobidelnoire2910]

He will never play monster hunter again, took him 20 min. and dipped out because he could never get out of his comfort zone even though he's said multiple times he wanted to get out of it by playing variety

[@joshuadehler5039]

Aged poorly

[@kurtobidelnoire2910]

good

[@buttergolem8584]

Epic exklsuive means it's probably shit, unfinished and the devs don't have trust in their own product.

[@HLGpanda]

The problem isn't having more than 1 launcher. The problem is EPIC GAMES itself

[@nagisa3523]

6:13 1000 people in a Valheim server is just…no No game would do that regardless

[@solidSnake4580]

Under a Rock’s building mechanics looks a lot like how Conan Exiles handled it’s building mechanics.

[@viridian839]

Conan exileais great

[@jbrock76]

A lot of them do... that seems to be the meta. Fixed tile size building

[@Gennys]

They really need to stop turning folklore Legends like the veil into tech stuff. I don't understand the whole point of getting rid of the magic systems for text systems. Just keep them magical.

[@onimateria]

And they will all still be behind Minecraft in terms of complexity. I love all these survival craft games (except for Valheim, I was surprised how dull it was and an absolute chore to play) and spend 100s of hours on them, but I end up returning to Minecraft. Still though it won't stop me from buying almost every damn survival craft type game just to get that high. Totally not addicted.

[@gamblingrunt1868]

So many games exactly the same. Very boring list 1/10

[@hattersmadness4701]

Fractured Veil looks like the PvE Rust server I play on, Lots of fun.

[@FracturedVeil]

we've got big plans for PvE elements while also balancing PvP

[@grimmliberty7447]

the only place you can't build? Under a Rock. LOL

[@Theo_Blackledge]

so many "upcoming" games but so few releases

[@yazzaf4776]

Valheim is such a peak survival game man, I wish we had something similar to that. The Devs are just so slow in pumping out content, every patch is just bug fixes. I don't get why they are content with like 4 people working on it.

[@yous2244]

Guys, "there's certainly something for everyone"

[@Hr1s7i]

6:05 It's because unity is not an engine for making actual video games. More of a learning tool than anything else. If you want actual well functioning multiplayer, not even unreal works. You'd have to just write your own server software. A reminder - when building the back end of a multiplayer game - the networking logic is at the forefront. You have to write your code with the idea that you'll be working with incoming streams from other players. In order to ensure good performance, you must separate the update engine from the rest of the simulation. As of, you must be able to run the work, whether you have the data about what the other players are doing and what not. You can tell that Valheim hasn't done their homework with this one, as the moment you have a remote user do something in the presence of a big grid, the entire simulation simply chokes, introducing lag for everybody. There are multiple reasons that is, but at the forefront we have the issue of the networking code being so rudimentary, one has to wonder if they even factored in the idea of having multiplayer, back when they decided to start this project. 23:55 Tmw this guy said he played the shit out of Diablo 2 back in the day. Do you, or do you not like complexity? Pick a damn side. 24:15 You don't need to think what it is, they told you what it is - 23:02 Last game is probably an asset flip.

[@matisfortincharbonneau5473]

Gad damn im hyped, by far my favorite gaming moment are on survival sandbox game 🥵 exploring, building, the lore of the world, grind for ressources.... shit hits me hard

[@yagxr]

i love the creatures and artstyle in under a rock. i hope it's fun.

[@ananiashard9466]

@Grant Todd nah, you're just tarded

[@olivernewton8584]

"next valheim" lol Valheim devs took the money and run after a 10% finished game

[@yoorface4680]

Lol, valheim devs still working to update game + its almost finished.

[@thomaswolsey2319]

But none of them are focused on base building.

[@alexarose2996]

Wtf is this causal ass games god gaming got normalised af

[@musicaltarrasque]

Funny how this vid missed Palworld

[@dadthewiseplays]

I played about 50 hours of Enshrouded during the demo and it is essentially V Rising meets Valheim and I loved every moment of it.

[@BladeValant546]

I didnt like how the buildings have no physics.

[@jordyjanssen3127]

I love how yesterday on Elevated, all three said this would be an amazing thumbnail and we get it the next day. Thats good editing😂

[@eillswim]

So basically 2023 is ... Early access Early Access Early Access Early Access... Nice.. welcome to modern gaming

[@doodlenator4308]

Day After/Rooted, got to be a total scam. Looks totally different than it was at first. The whole name change debacle. I will hard pass.

[@Tinker_Balambao]

Enshrouded feels like EverQuest Landmark. ijs.. pretty hype about it

[@zenwilds2911]

Landmark was so much better. Enshrouded is like a way better Minecraft, but it is still really blocky. No way to do castle arches or any rounded/arched building blocks. It's all square blocks like Minecraft.

[@Mullerchiropractic]

Not sure if you'd be interested, but I'd enjoy watching you do a react to GNS's War of the Walkers Play through. It was an amazing cenematic production he created within the 7D2D game.

[@OneQuickieplz]

As a gamer for over two decades, I feel server population size is a hindrance for some games that would benefit from upping the player count. Off-hand I can't remember which game it was, but it would phase players in areas together throughout multiple servers so there wouldn't be a huge lag spike from a mass population in one location. The idea behind the coding was genius and not sure why it wasn't implemented in these future games. Hopefully as technology keeps advancing this issue can get resolved. again

[@bart_ender6116]

mortal online tried to do this and it was awful but they were also bad devs

[@macready84]

you're probably thinking of a game that tried to use spatialOS. It did exactly what you're describing and I recall 3 different games that attempted to use the technology in their game and last I checked all 3 of them either never made it into players hands or were shut down. I imagine the technology just didn't work well enough to accomplish what the devs needed.

[@BIGmlems]

Foxhole perhaps??

[@kajmak64bit76]

​@@BIGmlemsnah... foxhole is split into multiple servers... Take one big map and split it into few parts i think now there is like 36 parts / hexes and each hex is like 100-ish players per hex Anvil Empires is close to this However... Star Citizen is working on it and will use it... as it NEEDS it

[@channingtaintum]

Guild Wars 2 did this. They called it “layering.”

[@Dead_Goat]

Its easier for one guy to make a game than a team of people who have to agree, work together, and work toward a common goal. Bigger teams just cause more code conflicts.

[@northstar5609]

I wonder if Asmon G has played Conan Exiles ...?? If not bud try it out if you like survival games ,dungeons,big enemies ,gods ( avatars you can control to destroy n devastate ur enemies build MASSIVE BUILDS ( BASES) ..defend them from purges etc. Look into it my guy if haven't it's worth at the least a look ..

[@Dr.Metalblood]

I generally prefer difficulty options (my main exceptions are Souls games) and I don't just mean easy, normal,hard, but more specific tweaks like number of mobs, more aggresdive AI, etc. The shared experience thing isn't such a big deal when you realize you can just easily modify the sentence by saying you beat X game on X difficulty setting. You can even do this with Souls games with leveling.

[@nblife916]

Yeah so I got Smalland. Ya know how it looks cute and easy? MOAR DEATH THAN VALHEIM. Go down tree? Die. Look at leaf? Die. There's a rustle? Die. I mean this is a good thing -I don't like cute -but the sheer amount of failure isn't apparent in the packaging. I am a failure as a Smallperson. An epic failure.

[@BorniRich]

Glad I’m not the only one who really dislikes the randomized environment crap

[@AshManzarek]

Chat's constant "Looks like " made me drop 100 IQ points. Dinosaurs = ARK. in the air = Subnautica in the air. stfu.......

[@TrOuLiOfficial]

To be honest these new Unreal Engine 5 games looks nice graphically but to be honest looks like shit in gameplay and animations, probably because Unreal Engine 5 give you much more adventage in time, you just can make SAME game much faster than before with its technologies, thats why probably those games are made fastly and for people it looks WOW NICE GRAPHIC but they didnt took more effort than typical Indie Games in my opinion.

[@ouroboros6125]

Survival base builder game devs: Why aren't any of you making darker more grim games? I love survival building games, but they are all uninteresting and boring in terms of theme. At least one indie dev or company out there. For the love of god can you make a grittier, darker and more brutal world setting? Please? Maybe one where your character is the villain. Like a failed humanoid experiment creature made from alchemy, that seeks to build powerful steampunk construct warriors to bring down a happy peaceful kingdom. I love survival building games. Especially ones focusing on mining and industry like Valheim. But most of them seems made for kids, or they have boring typical heroic stories or main characters. Someone please make a brutal, dark, gritty and hopeless world in this genre. Where you're the villain. Like some sort of living slime that can take the shape of humans and mind control them to mine and build for you. Just ... something which isn't creatively bankrupt from the get-go. TL;DR Survival base building games good. Themes and world settings usually boring.

[@bobzilla9p0]

That last games doesn't look that exciting to me. You go from taming and riding DINOSAURS to owning coal powered factories. Whoooooaaaa, super exciting progression! No wait... I'll just stay in the riding dinosaurs part of the game.

[@jiazhiwu]

None of these games will truly release like what they show in the trailer, or even release at all.

[@Dr.Kryptanical]

When star citizen succeeds in building their cutting edge server meshing game servers more games will begin to adopt the techniques and suddenly these large survival worlds will be doable it's similar to PSO2 but without the loading screen and each instance is on it's own server basically you could have loads of servers segmenting the world so that we have instances so untied that they can't crash eachother from the background but so intertwined play wise you can interact with players and objects across the server barrier and the best part you can't even see the barrier! This will make it more possible it will be seemless to the player and allow for these realistic graphics and physics while not totally destroying the server's optimisation in the process but most importantly! far larger playerbases per instance than if it was all a single shard think Ready Player One or SAO what it will mean for survival games though is unprecedented levels of physics and graphics beyond what we have now and too much happening might crash a small instance but once fully optimised you'll probably be able to have like 500 players all in one spot without killing the servers or the players pc's! It means the issue of bad network optimisation for mmo's will be a thing of the past and I think this is what's missing for survival mmo's and is what limits them check out the story of Everquest Next Landmark a game that started as a dev engine tool for the next everquest game but it became a survival game enshrouded is very similar probably the closest i've seen it's also grandfather of that plastic cel shading style fortnite adopted and one of the 2 earliest games to adopt voxels that wasn't entirely cubed and it was planned to have destruction mechanics but it should down in 2016 or 2014 something like that I was a founder it had potential but the server hardware/software and pc hardware wasn't there for it at the time it killed my PSU made it overheat... it was terrible optimisation at least thats what people said but I think it was due to hardware limitations they couldn't get it to run smoothly if they wanted to when it reached open beta the cause for the lag became apparent it couldn't handle the amount of players on each island roughly the size and shape of the pc pubg and fortnite maps and filled with detailed biomes something the br genre adopted later it's graphics were akin to what a modern graphics WoW would look like the style that fortnite adopted like I said before! Enshrouded isn't exactly the same the lighting is obviously more on the realistic side but it's still close to what I remember and it adopts elements that seem sci-fi too though not as much as landmark did, anyways with so many players voxelmancing the cubes a term used for using the smooth tool shrink the cubes that are the same size as the ones used to build in enshrouded beyond the developers expectations they were able to make microvoxels and get buildings down to a scary and intricate level of detail the top experts could make things like the towers in LOTR etc. or my favourite a HALO armada my sci-fi LA penthouse up on a mountain had a view of the sunset with floating ships players had managed to build with sci-fi luminescent light voxels but once it reached open beta the servers broke most people left and the game died most of the world moved on and forgot it existed... I'd dare say enshrouded is a spiritual successor but also became a warning to any developers trying to create sandboxes with voxels it's difficult to do when theres so many players engines and mostly the networking of old suffers these type of survival games are not networking friendly hence the limitation I just hope i'll see the day server meshing becomes widely available knowledge an experienced networker with 20yrs experience has been saying on youtube that what they are developing in the star citizen engine for networking code is above his head he grasps the basics like I can but the rest is some magic we don't understand and the rammifications are gonna be felt by the industry it's that cutting edge they got a test build working which is the magic he spoke of cause it apparently should be possible they just gotta scale that up to the wider verse and refine it and have players test it... beyond the basics i'm not even sure the ones making it know what it will be capable of once fully realised it's a seed a seed to the future of online gaming that will change the face of it forever and I assume that means future survival MMO's could utilise this tech but by then I think we'll all be playing them in VR the VR world or as apple is calling it Spatial Computing, so instead of a VR headset I guess we call them Spatial Computing Devices [SCD's a term I came up with I hope it takes, it sounds cool and futuristic and besides it's easier to remember] things are advancing quick and they are getting to 4k level with new chips coming out for their competitors and apples being 8k ready i'd say we are nearly reaching the refinement level where VR, AR headsets and other SCD's are advancing quicker and reaching the level where it's time for them to leave enterprise and become more mainstream, some companies have already started which means valve, sony, meta and the other companies are about to have competion, this competition and abundance of the tech will drive prices down on older models! it will become as common as a phone or as a gpu which means we are already on the precipice of a new age and it has begun to accelerate like AI did over the course of the past 2 years so I reckon in 2-3 yrs time SCD's will become mainstream like consoles especially with the increase just this month with 10,000 games being allowed vr support due to a UE5 plug-in developers will now be able to more easily add vr to their games! 3 yrs is plenty time for me to save up and pick out what my headset will be! I'm kinda considering the Beyond headset!

[@timetraveler2518]

Valheim is the best game for survival, exploration, building, and fighting enemies. Enshrouded is terrible because of the overworked interface, mechanic and build things suck.👍😂👍

[@minidude112]

Non changeable mechanics/ difficulty options. Agreed not liking that. In fact I am gonna take it further. Mathematically it is simply not possible to optimally balance and tailor a game to many different options. You will loose resources doing that and it will always be suboptimal. Can not fathom why people like this boring, bad, and unfortunate ubisoft approach. It will always hit someone worse than others. Too easy or too difficult for some, however it allows the game to better equip players dealing with challenges. No doubt. It is also a lazy approach leaving some balance to the players resulting in an often sub par experience.

[@ichbinfranke5152]

2 seconds in: "this game looks stupid" 2 seconds further in: "after seeing more of it, this game looks actually good" Dude! You saw 4-5 seconds from a trailer/showcase

[@jstubbles]

The armchair dev comments kill me. One dev is not making the entire survival game. They are probably a coder, and that's it. They buy tons of store assets, rip free assets, or on the rarity, hire contractors to make art, animations, HUD/UI, etc. The reason large teams take longer to make changes, is for a myriad of reasons, could be anything. Their codebase could be huge, with tons of systems. Modifying one sub system impacts 20 others, and those all need to be tested. Or it's just harder to search/resolve bugs and what causes them, due to the data size. More people also means more opinions. You have to have meetings to discuss ideas, resolutions, create a plan of action, scheduling, etc.

[@fionamb83]

Me: All these survival games are so samey Also me: buys all of them anyway

[@HLL_pepper]

@6:00 RUST has 1000 player servers. It becomes a problem though because if you aren’t present the minute the server does it’s weekly wipe, you’ll never catch up, you’re just fodder for the no-lifers.

[@triviumcrusade2609]

UE5 is a joke, every game looks the same. No new ideas out, they are just clones of ones that failed before. We are headed downhill even faster to the point I will play what I have no and enjoy until this computer burns up and I retire from the digital world.

[@EpixOrBust]

I liked valhiem on first play through but coming back wasn't fun. After that initial honeymoon phase, it just felt really grindy and basic. Idk why it gets the hype it does.

[@mistakay9019]

I just want a LOTR open world game, set in the original trilogy time. is that too much to ask?! I mean probably, but it would do well. none of this dwarven nonsense!

[@Bastispark]

14:40 kinda weird drooling about some flag. I'm getting some nationalistic vibes here 🤦🏿‍♂🤦🏿‍♂

[@VOX_Games]

I wish SCUM had a more inventive Dev team, that game has SO much potential. User made instances with an up/down voting system on the best maps would FLOOD that game with players.

[@aeontiv]

13:30 it isn't so much that we just want steam to have a monopoly. those are bad, I agree. it is just inconvenient. All my games are on steam, and I just like having everything in one library. When I get online with my friends, I dont want to have to open 3 or 4 libraries to see what I have installed to play.

[@mungolockhart3875]

Derelicts looks cool, but because this video shows the same inventory system as The Forest and its sequel, it loses a ton of points. While a super cool idea on paper, it's awful from a gameplay perspective.

[@Alphascrub_77]

Emberveil? Custom engine? Planned console support? Let me stop you right there. The only way the red flag on this gets bigger is if tencent or nexon would be the publishing the game or if there is this guy named Dean Hall on the dev team.

[@johnsmith6132]

I got the series X just so I can play half the games and I’m kind of ticked off that the Moria game is a PC exclusive not everyone has the money to pay for a extremely expensive computer Literally all of these games are for PC that’s bullshit

[@Shaojackify]

@Epic comment, Steam isnt pushing for having content exclusively on Steam. Epic is. Both stores should sell the game, let them compete on price and support features and let the players decide.

[@zipperdragongaming]

these games become ARK with high player count become a FPS or 3rdPS instantly so im glad some do not have large player counts

[@mayumitmarikit]

enshrouded would have been exciting as valheim had it not been its lack of weather system. it lacks environmental immersive experience and logic of house building

[@JADED1620]

It's not that steam should have and another store. And steam is a store. Shouldn't have. This isn't a different console type. Stores Should always be in control of the goods it can carry. And should never be allowed to restrict that which other stores can not. It's never in the best interest of a consumer to be controlled by a free market.

[@lilkhmer5]

I mean survival games are an untapped genre. Barely any good ones except rust, ark, and raft to name a few. Not going to get much quality or elden ring levels of polish.

[@mountaintopcreations7596]

Asmongold adds no value to gaming since it is all his opinion. I can't stand the "this game must be perfect" tone to like it so I disregard all reviews by him. Just my honest opinion.

[@ArmisHart]

Hell no. Valheim is garbage. This is 10x better. Sorry Valheim devs but that was a laggy ugly halfhearted attempt.

[@r2Kd0ugernaut]

time frame hasent been announced. time frame hasent been announced. time frame hasent been announced. time frame hasent been announced... okay cool so a bunch of forever EA games, nice!