Assassin's Creed Rogue Ending Is The Beginning of Unity

At the end of Assassin's Creed Rogue, the last memory is a glitch memory of Shay Cormac, while he is in Paris (1776) he assassinates Arno's (The Assassin/ Player) Father, Charles Dorian.
Assassin's Creed Rogue is set in the mid-18th century during the French and Indian War, and follows Shay Patrick Cormac, an Assassin-turned-Templar.
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[@brahmantyoihsan5938]

"Gentlemen, I will protect this artifact with my very life." Shay: I'm about to end this man's whole career.

[@mrbummble4570]

When he said start a revolution of our own, he meant the French Revolution :0 *gasp*

[@farioxx]

+Samuel Smith No shit!

[@mrbummble4570]

Jamez Montoya I didn't know that Shay himself was part of starting the French Revolution. I thought some french Templars got together and said "hey, you know what be fun..."

[@farioxx]

When he said ''We'' he was referring to all the french people. Is like an expression. Is well known that as soon as he got the artifact he went back to America. He had nothing to do with the french revolution because he killed Charles Dorian in 1773 and the French revolution started in 1789.

[@mrbummble4570]

Jamez Montoya well a revolution that big must've taken years to plan. I think Shay might've thought of the idea and left it to the french Templars to do something about it.

[@Smithc2023]

+James Montoya but he's Irish

[@Sonicfan640]

Okay, so here is a gist (not christopher gist), on how the timeline goes. Haytham Kenway's sequence in ACIII happens around the same time as when Shay kills Templars like Lawrence Washington (1762-1763). As a side note, Charles Lee becomes a Templar when Shay is still an assassin. Shay becomes a Templar a few years later. Haytham and Shay shot Achilles Davenport in the leg in 1761. (Connor was alive when this happened). In 1769, Connor finds the Davenport homestead. In 1775, Connor leads the Patriots to end the war. In 1776, Shay Cormac was in France, and killed Charles Dorian. This happened a year after the revolutionary war ended. The French Revolution started when Connor was 33, Arno was 21, and shay was 58. I hope this stops some confusion (;

[@Menace2Sociaty1]

Thank you.

[@leviwing8308]

The revolutionary war officially started in 1776, it ended in 1783. Shay killed Charles Dorian about 6 months after the official beginning of the american revolution.

[@vexumvii3559]

***** they actually address this in an interview, its hard to keep it on a timeline. Their rule is 6 months for any major plot death, and 3 years for any non major death. (As in accuracy to real date) They were talking about unity in the video. Ill never be able to find it lol

[@Monitice]

Sonicfan640 You are right. I had my own timeline earlier but I realised that this made much more sense. Assassin's creed 3 and assassin's creed rogue pretty much happen at the same time. You are correct. Can you tell me the whole timeline? Including liberation, black flag, freedom cry Please?

[@Menace2Sociaty1]

KidGamerNx Black Flag then Freedom Cry then Rogue then 3 then Liberation then Unity.

[@joebenzz]

You can say what you want about AC unity, but the palaces, the visual architecture and the monuments are a sight to see. Besides when you walk on the roofs of Paris and hear the crowds singing while burning stuff gives chills.

[@muhdfarezwan2027]

That's what ubisoft always do,making assasin creed as a attraction of history to the people.Man if they make an assasin creed based on Malay world(my country is Malaysia) in the future,that would be cool.

[@samveerkamp192]

You know what would have been really awesome? If the eagle at the end of Rogue would fly in the air and then we'd see him reach America and see Connor fight just as Shay says "May the father of understanding guide us all"

[@Smithc2023]

YES!!!!

[@jongetitdunn]

That would’ve been a good ending!

[@arrivederciliebe32]

If Shay didn't stop the assassins, they would have caused more catastrophes than what was already done. Shay needed them to stop looking for the precursor sights. The POEs that reside there aren't meant to be touched or tampered with. You can hate Shay all you want, but in Rogue, the assassins are in the wrong.

[@Usyra]

Yes, and it's a valuable lesson for the Assassins: the danger of Blind Faith. Ideally, the Mentors become more cautious, their subordinates will ask more questions, and they become overall more effective. Good thing Otis decided to share that lesson by showing that footage to all the Assassins!

[@Former_Halo_Fan]

Usyra Here's what made no sense. Achilles thought he would find an apple, but surely Achilles would have known what happened to Al Mualim and the effects the artifacts have on the wielder, or how previous Assassins felt: leave the damn things alone (not just the apple, but the artifacts in general.) Yet here he is, devoting all his time and resources to locating artifacts that were known to go against everything the brotherhood stood for (you can't use a device meant to enslave to enforce freedom.) I understand going after the Manuscript just so the Templars can't have it, but actually seeking them out is ridiculous.

[@colinDS222]

That's kind of parts together why Achilles didn't want to train Connor because either he probably thought Connor would turn templar like shay, or Achilles didn't want Connor repeating his mistakes

[@Former_Halo_Fan]

colinDS222 He just lost hope. His enemy destroyed him and gained the upper hand, leaving him helpless with no way to bounce back and nothing left to live for. Everyone he trained died, so he saw no reason to train another.

[@benitagani9096]

Yea but at the end Achilles says shay was right, so shay really didn't have to stop/kill all of them to get that point across because I'm pretty sure Achilles understood and obviously the assassins would have stopped.

[@SirCraigius]

I've been recently playing through a number of the Assassin's Creed for the first time. I played Origins, then AC3 remastered, then Black Flag. I was going to play Unity next, but decided to do Rogue first since it was connected to the previous two story wise. Really glad I did. I had no idea when I walked past little Arno in that scene that I was about to kill his dad. Or that it would be the beginning of Unity, which I'm now playing.

[@brehtmclaughlin9390]

Am I the only one who thinks they should've released a "Redemption" DLC where Arno hunts down Shay and exacts revenge?

[@LegitForEverything]

nope

[@bgs1707]

yeah

[@onepiecedoocartoon3916]

+Breht McLaughlin When Arno is Teen Shay has died becaus when he kill Arno Father He has very old age

[@LegitForEverything]

Kunarnon Jantasare That's a shame. I was hoping an Assassin would've ended him.

[@onepiecedoocartoon3916]

+LegitForEverything I think no assassin can kill him.He was assassin and have hidden if you play game you will know many assassin try to kill him and died.You can´t hate Shay because in Rogue assassin is wrong.

[@jacksonaustin-ley5211]

Assassin's creed unity would have been better if Shay was in it. What do you guys think

[@65sparda]

I have a question how did shay die?

[@1finallygotunleashed]

gabriel He hasn't that we know of. Another game with Arno or Connor could easily involve him.

[@heroicdefender9747]

1finallygotunleashed Ether Connor or Arno are going to be the ones to kill him since Connor would be doing it to avenge the Colonial Assassin Brotherhood who had fallen before him while Arno would be doing it because Shay murdered his father. So I can see both of them teaming up eventually.

[@1finallygotunleashed]

***** I agree. Many people actually suspected that Connor would show up in Unity and Shay would serve a villain role towards the end because the title "Unity" isn't numbered, which was thought to mean that the game was a tie-in like Brotherhood, Revelations and Liberation. Seems like it is not the case, but maybe a DLC pack will see them meet. I wanna see old Shay.

[@rionelupus]

Shay would be dead or retired by then

[@MrSiloterio]

all this time Arno was falsely accused of murder - but in fact, it was his very disobedience that caused his father to let his guard down in looking for him and be murdered.

[@lovebeom]

Shay actually made me like Haytham in a way. I really disliked Haytham in AC3 but in Rogue I didn't mind him.

[@soulstalker4624]

sunrising To be honest Haytham did had a nice personality in the beginning of AC 3, but after we play as Connor that started to decline, making Haytham look more like a Douche than a respectful and honorable villain (As seen when he killed the soldier Connor captured)

[@Rypio_39]

I liked him in both

[@youarethecssformyhtml]

Haytham was the one who saved Connor when he was about to be executed because the assassins missed the rope when they tried to cut it so Haytham did it.

[@SiNeDLPs]

I don't know why, but I got stunned by this ending... I just... This game explained alot about AC3 and AC4 but this ending was just awesome... I played ACU at first so I didn't know why did Dorian die. Epic...

[@peternehemiah1606]

At the time rogue was released only for the ps3/xb360 We wouldn't know

[@Kagetora-]

@@peternehemiah1606 And apparently Unity got delayed and was supposed to come out weeks before Rogue.

[@TheOneManWhoBeatYou]

Funny, Amo and that little girl talked about stealing apples in my version of Rogue which I bought after Unity came out...

[@razorfools]

hmm.. did u just tricked my eye? I thought u typed Arno not Amo?

[@sunziii_]

@@razorfools Same

[@joshuabaatjes1001]

Shay returning to the colonies to report back to Haytham only to find his Grandmaster dead and all of his work undone by Connor wouldve made a great DLC.

[@jeune_turc9404]

Haytham and Shay would be a nice team. They both were assassins but they were smart enough to realize that there's another side of every story.

[@lunabits4128]

they did work together...

[@operatordr99]

+MickeyChannel but connor and edward would be a very very nice team :D

[@lunabits4128]

edward IS Connors Grandfather and Haytham is Edwards son. Edward had his house broken into and was killed when Haytham was a boy. Hence part of why he tried to change the world.

[@operatordr99]

+CaptainToasty I know

[@uirentv2254]

+SwiftyMister I'm speechless😫😳😶

[@Zombieslayer10668]

Shay Patrick Cormac is the BEST Templar of all Assassins Creed Games! He killed almost all of the American Assassins and was never killed by anyone! 😎

[@colinDS222]

I actually just finished rogue my self and came to this video. I also have unity but I finished it before coming to rogue and beating it, I was so surprised by the ending but then I was a little disappointed that in unity arno never figured out that it was shay that killed his father and he couldn't get revenge

[@cillywrecker9000]

Yeah, I thought the same. In the whole game, you find out the murderer of your foster-father, step-father, but not even your real father. I don't know if we ever will considering he was very young when it happened.

[@colinDS222]

Yeah that's what makes part of him probably feel empty because we won't ever see him truly find his real fathers killer and fight shay or something but the death wasn't as sad as ezios family because we got to get to know the characters before seeing them hung

[@ExpulsoPlayz]

No I'm pretty sure he knows, when Arno kills Bellec, he sees the flashbacks, and shortly after Charles' death, Shay is killed

[@kejserrige]

Expulso Playz Nope. When Arno killed Bellec he saw the flashbacks of Arno getting attacked by someone with the same robes as Germain. It was definitely not Shay. And we do not know if Shay lives or gets killed. (Im predicting Connor kills him but we don't know)

[@ExpulsoPlayz]

legend7997 I've read the book, and that's what it said

[@faizanali383]

It would have been awesome if they made Arno kill Shay in a AC Unity DLC.

[@Smithc2023]

+I. Th. tell it like it is

[@Justin-hd1cb]

+I. Th. Lol shay can just shoot at arno with his grenade launcher while sitting in a chair

[@faizanali383]

***** That's true but Arno could still kill an old Shay.

[@shaypatrickcormac5178]

nop i kill him first

[@Cyconzo]

Faizan Ali It would be cool if the DLC had like Connor, Shay, and Arno.

[@mermaidman961]

Was a bit disappointed when we didn't even get to catch a glimpse of shay in unity (most likely because they finished the beginning of unity before the other team finished the end of rogue) But cool little ending nonetheless.

[@Shalyn-ln9tu]

That's definitely what happened. They both released on the same day. I believe Shay wasn't mentioned in Unity at all. It was assumed it was Templars, not Assassin turned Templar. Which is how Arno followed the path of Assassin. AC3 was the first time we have seen assassin turned templar.

[@EffieLioti]

it would be awesome if somehow Conor, Arno and Shay had to team up for the greater good and Shay gave up his own life to protect Arno, redeeming himself from killing his father.

[@Cyruscabiles]

I hate shay when he betrayed the assassins but when i play the game and find out the truth shay was right to save the world.

[@facts4thebrain]

I didn't understand what I meant when chareles Dorian says: old Connor and his assassins. The American Revolution undid your Templar buisness

[@hunterbird4949]

he is talking about the events of ac 3 rogue takes place before the main character named connor in ac3 becomes an assassin trained by achilles he is also son of haythem kenway, this scene is after ac3

[@tyresedag8616]

+SuperSmashyfication you summerized that In the best way possible

[@bfinn30]

I feel like AC Rogue made 3s story good somehow.

[@tyz6380]

They should’ve made a DLC where Arno hunts down Shay for revenge of his father, way better idea than dead kings right?

[@aleksj1719]

To all the people who says Shay would be old when Arno grows up remember in ACU Arno is about 20 years old in ACU believe it or not and if Shay is In his mid 30s he’d be 50 years old and Shay was at peak physical condition so I double anyone could kill him

[@piplup2009]

i like how ac4,ac3,ac rogue and unity is all one long story, i hope we get some dlc with connor vs shay or aveline and arno teaming up

[@michielalberts5393]

evaline and arno sounds realy cool since she's french too.

[@bleachclorox4860]

The comments already showed who with templar and who with assassin

[@ryanthered2060]

0:52 if you’re wondering Some kids threw him into the Kool-Aid man

[@ManiacMG]

in 1:42 the guy is talking about Connor Kenway in AC 3!

[@gurjevansingh]

actually the guy you are talking about is the father of Arno Dorian who is the protagonist of AC Unity

[@ManiacMG]

jevan singh thank you, I knew that he was in the game but could not remember who he was

[@nsamadara]

I just got done with rogue today I saw little Arno I almost died it’s kinda weird seeing a character u played as in the game but your a different person and now unity means more sense to me now

[@gaming-worldz1747]

The assassin's Creed games are always interesting and the Endings always need to be sad but Unity made me very sad but when you pass the last mission and you can do what the hell you want the game becomes very awsome😉

[@pristianopenaldo142]

unpopular opinion: this is the best ending out of all the assassins creed games

[@mattgames7543]

he mentions a new revolution is about to begin, the industrial revolution.

[@Krynictrace]

French Revoluion... Shay is in france and this basically is the start of unity which is set in the french revolution, the industrial revolution is still a few decades away...

[@mattgames7543]

Oh, I thought he was talking about the french revolution initially, but fair enough. I dont even remember the whole thing now! XD

[@mattgames7543]

***** oh yeh, haha. it is the french revolution, dont know what I was thinking! :P

[@dutchdragongaming8676]

But where is Shay we dont see him in unity only his costume

[@mattgames7543]

yeh, but unity is even more years after this, you see arno at the beginning talking to a girl. he is like 10. shay was just there to kill that assassin, my guess he is long gone now

[@aebfcgdh]

haytham sequence in ac3 was before AC rogue and then in Connors story as he grows up till a teen we don't hear about haytham until we see him again in seq5 so during Connors childhood haytham was in ac rogue and this video takes place after ac3 where Connor is a master assassin

[@zerogamer935]

We know

[@el_iron_duke]

It's funny how French people in the AC Universe speaks in a French accent everywhere other then France. In AC Brotherhood, Baron de Valois and his French soldiers spoke in a French accent. In AC Rogue, the French characters such as Chevalier de la Verendrye and Le Chasseur spoke in a French accent. But at the end of AC Rogue in Versailles, Charles Dorian would be speaking in British Accent. Plus everyone in Unity speaks in a British accent witu some even speaking in local British and Irish dialects lol. A random NPC would say something in French and all of a sudden he would speak English with an Irish or Scottish accent.

[@KLebGumbo]

Ha Ubisoft made a mistake in this. Charles made it sound that at this moment in time Connor had already finished the Templars off in America but at this point it was still before Benjamin Church, Haythem and Charles Lee were even assassinated. At this time the revolution was still taking place and the templars were still a deadly force and the assassins were still alive. Also 'Old Connor' was only 24 years old at this time. gets your facts straigh Ubisoft

[@RespectedGamer72]

+Cal Gumbo No, they didn't get it wrong. The American Revolution wasn't exactly over at the time Shay killed Charles, but the Declaration of Independence had been signed, which means the war was practically finished, though the fighting continued.

[@KLebGumbo]

RespectedGamer72 But the fact still remains that Connor hadn't taken care of the Templar situation in America. Also Achilles was still in charge then so it would have been Achilles and his Assassin (Connor). Charles' words made it sound like Connor had long since killed the templars and become leader of the American Assassins... and was old.

[@vicboy5008]

Actually, when this scene takes place, Shay had already been searching the world for the artifacts for about 20 years. By that time, the events of AC3 had already transpired.

[@RespectedGamer72]

Cal Gumbo Fair enough, I see your point. Although I do feel the need to point this out: Charles wasn't calling Connor "old". Shay had said "Just finishing old business," and Charles said "Old... Connor and his Assassin's undid your Templar business." He wasn't saying Old Connor undid your Templar business, he was saying Connor undid your "old" business. Make sense?

[@stynershiner1854]

What if Arno was talking about Achilles' son who was also named "Connor"?

[@EclipseStardust]

For me i played unity first and then rogue. So when i got to this part i fell outta my chair

[@mrwansta7349]

Finnaly they made a perfect story line wait but then...MY HEAD HURTS AGAIN

[@ssantos88]

What's the point of connecting both games if it wasn't going to be explore? Making Shay kill Arno's father was unnecessary. All of this just for you to buy Unity, dirty move Ubisoft.

[@xNeroz]

they might use this for next years game, or games if they decide to put out 2 more.

[@ssantos88]

TheXoticPanda It still a dirty move. Shay should have been the main villain. This is Juno all over again, we want to know what they're doing and who's going to stop them.

[@CowllHatesHumanity]

ssantos88 you are not forced to buy it

[@ssantos88]

Assassino I bought Unity (not Rogue). When I find out that it was Shay that killed Arno's father I was hoping to see him. My brother finish the game and told me that he was nowhere to be seen.

[@RespectedGamer72]

I thought it was brilliant! Arno's father was killed by a Templar and now we know who it was. Who cares if Arno never found his father's killer? Shay didn't leave any evidence behind, so it's not as though Arno had anything to go off of to even GET revenge. Ezio knew the man who betrayed his father, Uberto Alberti. Thus, Ezio had a lead to go off of and once he got his revenge on Uberto, he got even more leads which pushed him further into avenging his family's deaths. Arno had 0 leads, so getting revenge wasn't really an option for him like it was for Ezio. Shay even says at the end of the game "I am Shay Patrick Cormac, Templar of the American rite." That tells us right there that Shay headed straight back to America once he got the box. Arno is not going to seek out a man he doesn't even know that lives on the other side of the Atlantic. He would need a solid lead to even motivate him to find revenge, and as I said before, Shay didn't leave any evidence. Now Arno getting revenge for de la Serre's death is different. He had leads that he could easily follow, so he took them. I never realized how dynamic his character was...

[@m.i.a4830]

He didn't even care when he heard Connor dismantled his work.

[@sadichchhaparulekar691]

*THAT EAGLE MUST BE CONNOR's ONE OF SPY..BEWARE SHAY XD*

[@joshuahughes5761]

Shay isn't a villain because he's doing the right thing of killing the assassins so that they don't course the world to be destroyed

[@navysteel8510]

It's almost like scar killing mofasa if you think about it

[@shaewhite3971]

I never noticed there was a little Arno. It literally takes place minutes after rogue then

[@not_tripping1239]

1:50 Connor was mention

[@TheAlmostBest]

mind...blown (explosion in background)

[@stal2156]

I didn't know conner played a big roll in stopping the Templars

[@Rogue_ac]

For anyone who hates shay he's a way to look at it different the reason he turned rogue was that the assasins were messing with the precursor sites and when he knew him and the assasins were the reasons they killed many innocents and if he hadnt gone and betrayed many more cities would've fell and making alot of deaths fall on them I feel like a dick since well shay did murder arno's dad which I thought you can kill shay in unity but if ubisoft makes a dlc where you hunt shay as arno with connor's help and involve co-op with five players the orginal 4 assassins in unity and with the help of connor since connor isn't dead

[@JordanShaneNolan]

Woahh bro slow down. when arno is grown up shay would be 70 and in them days you would not survive into your 70's so... hes dead

[@Rogue_ac]

Yea but Ezio was a old assasin and hr lived to be 80 and died of old age so its possible and there not be a chase just a cutscene where Arno kills Shay while Shay is just sitting in the chair knowing he would die

[@JordanShaneNolan]

In the french revelution it wouldnv been harder for medicine or even hospitals so he will of died iver fighting or old age but probably disease

[@Rogue_ac]

That's where you're wrong he went to France to get back the manuscript and he most likely left since he had his own ship like Edward he could be in the colonies living there because he has a house in new York and owned many businesses so he could afford medicine and other things so it's really possible for him to still be alive

[@abdalrahmankhataan7231]

sorry but this will make you feel like a bigger dick as shay would be at least in his late 70's so it'll be hard for arno to kill an old man if he didn't die in the first place

[@nightcrawler2099]

great tie in

[@Toshy29]

2021 and I just analyzed the end, I had not seen Arno in the end of the Rogue

[@kumaylsaleh6948]

Haytham and Shay shot Achilles Davenport in the leg in 1761. (Connor was alive when this happened). In 1769, Connor finds the Davenport Homestead. this is where the director of game has messed up the brains of us gamers trying to understand the mixed events and ages. Basically, we stuck coz of Achilles's appearance in the AC5 (so young) when he got himself crippled by haytham and definitely after 8 years when Connor met him he was right as older as a person in his 60s. so this our brain thinks like a big-time phrase when it was just an 8 years gap just due to Achilles's wrong appeared age difference.

[@S4t4n666.]

Assassins rogue is basically one big hint to assassins creed unity

[@atlaskid1893]

I Figured This Out Today At School Remembering The 2 Games And I Remebered BOOM They Both Connect, Why Not Do A KZbin search abut it

[@JakvsMetalheads999]

I'm sort of confused by the what Charles said: "The American Revolution undid your templar business." If this was 1776, then that means that not only is the Revolutionary War not even close to being over, but Benjamin Church, Thomas Hickey, Charles Lee and Haytham (!!!) are still alive. The American Revolution won't "undo his templar business" for another five or so years...

[@JordanShaneNolan]

Remeber tht arno is still a boy at the end so when arno becomes an assassin they would be in there 70's also Hatham is dead and charles and all the others

[@RespectedGamer72]

+JakVM999 The major battles of the American Revolution happened prior to 1776 (namely, The Battles of Lexington and Concord [you might remember Connor riding on horseback telling groups of soldiers to fire], and the Battle of Bunker Hill [when you assassinate John Pitcairn]).This scene happened after the Declaration of Independence was signed, so even the the fighting continued, the rest of the world already saw a free America, completely undone of Templar business.

[@guesstime6445]

I didn’t even know you can find the main character from Ac unity in Rogue

[@tamadeetm6183]

connor kenway or connor davenport?

[@realguy7808]

1:52 why did my dumbass just realize that he was talking about the French revolution.

[@aziz2750]

Imagine a game were arno and connor meet to kill shay

[@jazz265]

That would be awesome but I don't think we'll ever get that. According the expanded source material Shay continued pursuing First Civilization and raised his son, and later grandson, into the Templars without returning to America while Connor and Arno respectively went onto rebuild their nations' Assassins. I think don't think either became aware of Shay's existence.

[@wheat_thins6328]

I make my own luck

[@mrwansta7349]

I forgot for a moment I got lost in the epicness

[@risingfire8352]

I was afraid they weren't gonna mention Connor at all. So far I've gone through the entire story of unity but no mention of Connor. But I've finished Unity and there's no mention so far but since I haven't done any side missions I'll keep searching.

[@RespectedGamer72]

In Rogue you can collect these tablets at Abstergo Entertainment that are just emails exchanged between Melanie Lamey and her team members. One of them mentions Connor in it and says that he had a wife and a son! Apparently it was a mess, but that's as far as the email went, so I don't know any details about it.

[@tanveerhussain4780]

You know the temple in ac3 is from rouge where the box was hidden.I like shay

[@raymondma3743]

HOLY SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

[@optimusprime5446]

I wish he put both videos of rogue and unity

[@gaming-worldz1747]

I'm sorry I didn't realise that this is Assassin's Creed Rouge

[@ggfs345t2]

I haven’t played the ending yet but this made me happy😂

[@Kagetora-]

If you're talking about release date, Rogue and Unity were released on the same date. But Rogue was the one that was underrated so not a lot of people looked at it iirc. It is concurrent with Unity

[@boomplayzgamez896]

i did not know this ty for telling

[@theanimeunderworld8338]

What I'm wondering is what happened to Shay? Did he become the new Templar grand master? Did Connor ever find him? what was life for him since the Templars where hunted by the new assassin's.

[@shaypatrickcormac5178]

dud srysly i can counter any attacks even air assassinate

[@ripvanwinkle654]

No. Actually, after killing Charles dorian, shay decided to lay low and had a family. He had a grandson? Cudgal cormac.

[@zografosspearfishinghellas6442]

no , arno's father was a bastard. thats why shay killed him

[@vigilante9340]

I hope AC unity has a DLC so that Arno can find out that shay is the one who killed his father ,so Arno can get revenge kinda be like AC2 but no ezio because killing Arno's father was unnecessary because Charles didn't do anything about it so shay come up ,being a dick and killed him ,stopping the assassins for what they did and might creat more disasters later on if didn't join the templars but killing Charles Dorian was just fuck up😡 and made a new assassin because of that and his name is Arno Victor Dorian and could be the second hero of the Assassin Brotherhood😒

[@darthmarticusLFC]

At this point in time (1776), the American Revolution is nowhere near finished (another 6 years yet) and it always bugs me that Charles refers to it as if it's finished.

[@abdalrahmankhataan7231]

But he didn't say it's finished he said that the american revolution undid the templar business...also in 1776 connor led the patriots to end the war...but the revolution didn't stop at this point

[@natedowg2558]

OMG I HAVE NOT PLAYED ROUGE AND I JUST CANT BELIVE THIS

[@theawesomeapple7677]

when Arnos dad said Connor and his assassins undid your plans was he talking about Connor Kenway and i am confused with the time lines in ac 3 it ends in 1770 something but in rouge the start of it is in 1752 and Connor Kenway insnt born yet and in ac 3 Acillies dies before 1752 but acillies is a young man and at some stage in the game Connor goes to new york and the year is 1709 when in ac black flag Edward is a young man Hathem isnt born yet so neather is Connor and the year is 1715 so what is going on ubisoft jesus forgive me if i am wrong and tell me if i am wrong

[@Brendan-kx8iy]

He was talking about Connor Kenway.

[@yungchangsta]

I payed attension to the dialogue

[@youngbachelortv2883]

Just pointing out, he says one revolution has ended, but in 1776 the revolutionary war was still well underway, and ended in 1782, if I have my facts right.

[@ThePreciseClimber]

I assume the writer derped. The "Templar Buisness" was not competly undone in 1776 either. Oupsie! :P

[@JohnnyDominion]

History has a way of not actually being what it seems to the general public in this series.

[@DragonSoul3]

I'm confused by Charles' comment at 1:42.. What does the reference to Connor and the American Revolution mean? It undid what business? I haven't gone past this game so no spoilers please.

[@sandvich9879]

Did you play the games in order, or did you play just this one? It makes sense if you played the games in order

[@DragonSoul3]

+Sandvich I played it all in order. Rogue is the last one I played. I'm just wondering what Connor in AC3 has to do with the comment made in this cutscene.

[@OscarBlazer22]

+DragonSoul3 well AC3's story happens after Shay stops the American Assassins and Connor helped undo what Shay and the other templars did to stop the assassins

[@RespectedGamer72]

Shay eliminated the American assassins throughout the course of the game. At the end of Rogue (not this ending, the ending that takes place in the Arctic), Achilles is left powerless and without followers because Shay killed them all and left Achilles alone and crippled. That was in 1750 something, before Connor started his adventure. Remember, at the beginning of AC3, Achilles lives alone at the Homestead and the assassins are all basically eliminated. Connor shows up and helps Achilles rebuild the Assassin Brotherhood in America, thus "undoing" Shay's templar business (that of destroying the Assassin Brotherhood).

[@alluxander1219]

* It happened in 1760*

[@TeenStingray]

This is the only mission I've played in rogue.

[@tkoby]

I love they already had a game idea

[@Youyoucrazy45]

Wait, Unity would still be transported to last gen just with fewer NPC's

[@cavaliothorson7755]

Arno and Elise? Cool.

[@sagaxion7455]

33 people didn't want to start a revolution on their own

[@JG-jb1wl]

wonder if arno will ever find shay

[@madsmohnen]

Does anybody know the name of the classical music wich is played by some men in the background? it starts around 0:35.

[@duck8206]

Look on the soundtrack of AC Rogue, it might be there.

[@TheSushmasailaja]

they two kids are in unity

[@WilliamKalagayan]

ok i know thats why iam playing assassin creed unity in the first time in rogue shay cormac killed dorian father i thought dorian was killed by silence

[@tyresedag8616]

I'm on my seat fucking mind blown I've never realized this 😶

[@andrespech990]

Shay= shay's rebellion. Assasin creed with shay and Connor

[@kaptainkpop6750]

Did the American revolution and the French one take place at the same time ?

[@brndn206]

Arno's father is an assassin? Can't believe they mentioned Connor!! got me hyped up. and does shay know about Connor?

[@georgie9303]

Shay figures it out the moment he was told by charles. I doubt he knows Connor is Haythem son or that he was the result of Achilles

[@shaypatrickcormac5178]

yes i know him

[@SolorioV1]

@@shaypatrickcormac5178 You better be ready for him then.

[@bevw4414]

BRUH it's like this in all the assassins creed games

[@rabbidsnipes5654]

I haven't finished the game yet, but with "connor and his asaassins" he means the connor of AC3?

[@xNeroz]

yes. because it is mentioned around the start of AC rougue that Achielles son conner and his wife passed.

[@theawesomeapple7677]

oh just read the other coment but still confused about edward and stuff

[@sevybear-pshycoshame4421]

1:05 were did he come from?

[@jordanmd6642]

Wtf at 1:22?? 😂

[@Burburel]

+RicajochMx haha i saw that too:)

[@metalgearmlgsolid6589]

Wtf

[@OldSquirrelflight]

What are you talking about?

[@chandima339]

+Ricajoch jumper XD

[@OldSquirrelflight]

Brandon MaçFarland what?

[@DoubleDelta10]

even tho the assassin's were wrong with the precursor sites i still prefer the assassin's to the Templar's

[@Dan-fo9ip]

All because of Shay Cormac He eliminated all of the assasins from assasins brotherhood which were mentored by achilles

[@Justin-hd1cb]

And because of this he saved more innocent lives from being killed by the assassins...

[@Dan-fo9ip]

But Also helped haytham kenway and rest of templar to kill more innocent lives than assasins had done

[@shaypatrickcormac5178]

really...templars kill more than the assassins did with the earthquake..if that calculation is correct ill join the assassins again

[@zapadaap7181]

Dhanush Rajendran No, the Templars killed like 20 guys to achieve a goal, the assassins FUCKING DESTROYED LISBON AND KILLED MILLIONS TO GAIN NOTHING.

[@9inesouljaz]

They should have put a part in unity where arno assasinates shay for killing his father

[@Hostilethreat]

I think that there was a cutcene in unity where Arnold kills him

[@RogueSith501]

No, there wasn't

[@LouisShields]

Arnold? Rofl, thats the funniest thing Ive seen all day.

[@alphonsus1204]

its arno!

[@Matheusnop]

So arnold comes out of the cartoon and kills people in unity

[@Matheusnop]

Rick Hasselhoff agreed

[@Bopkwon]

So at this time when Shay is in Paris Connor is still alive and is going to stop Shay? So connor has an empire now??

[@illusivemanarmor2811]

KaiFireRBX No, Shay died very old in NY after have a son and grandson.

[@rakamandala2004]

me and my older cousin played this mission! and i said what the HELL!