Brent is totally right on what happened to Wago !!!
@duanebailey62535 жыл бұрын
Yup didnt seem like much happened so it must have happened quick. If it was the valve prob would have been able to hear carnage more. Water killed the metal sounds or it just broke the piston and valve instantly.
@RotaryTurbo5 жыл бұрын
I've never seen a dropped valve make a piston dissapear, in any engine ever. Perhaps it's happened, but often times the engine will still run with a horrible clatter of the valve head beating the piston top and combustion chamber to death. That's all I've ever personally seen from dropped valves alone. Took some serious pressure to bend that rod, and even if the valve caused the piston to dig into the sleeve and shatter, the rod wouldn't have been under the stress to bend. It would have shattered the piston too fast to bend. Trying to compress water...that'll bend a rod fast.
@95TurboSol5 жыл бұрын
I have to go with Brent on this one, if it cracked the sleeve and pushed a wall of coolant at the open value it would smack that sucker like a brick wall, crack the value and push it into it's seat sealing the cylinder before top dead center and it hydrolocked, bending the rod and destroying the piston from the subsequent debris.
@theangryitalian79225 жыл бұрын
95TurboSol like a docta 🥼
@peejay19815 жыл бұрын
If the coolant got sucked in through a crack, wouldn't it just go back out and/or make the crack bigger?
@Nostradamus19815 жыл бұрын
@@peejay1981 No, the piston is moving so fast - it wouldnt have been able to push all the coolant out back through the crack... i also agree with brent, to much load, too much boost, cracked the sleeve, coolant entered, piston hit it like a ton of bricks, bend the rod, broke the valve, which all ended up demolishing the piston. As brent said, a valve woudnt bend a rod - it would just dent the hell out of the head and piston top - and a valve being forced sideways to break the sleeve - I dont see it.
@asskickingperformance35505 жыл бұрын
Paul Jones if the piston had been forged instead of cast it possibly would have but since the piston was the weaker link it just exploded when the water started to “try” to compress.
@nicholashall72335 жыл бұрын
I had basically the same damage from a stuck 120# injector on an LS engine, except my rod broke in half too
@cassiusdante22165 жыл бұрын
Hydro lock Brent nails it again
@hermestrismegistus47345 жыл бұрын
Yup water is non compressible.
@chuckh88005 жыл бұрын
I have turned wenches for over 30 years and seen this alot Brent was right
@blueyoda28975 жыл бұрын
Had it happened to my eg
@ELCANGRI132045 жыл бұрын
Agree
@ReignitedAuto5 жыл бұрын
That is correct
@TheRevo335 жыл бұрын
Brent is right 100% I test engines for a living and I can tell you that it cracked a sleve, forced water into the cylinder, bent a rod, pushed this piston into the side of the cylinder breaking the piston, then the bits of piston went flying around into the opening and closing valves breaking that intake valve, a bit of piston probably got stuck behind that valve then when it tried to close it pulled it apart. Defiantly not dropping a valve for sure. That has happens loads of times and all it does is mess up the head and top of the piston, it doesn't bend a rod, crack a sleve and shatter a piston.
@ghettobikelife88335 жыл бұрын
chris critchley but how much pressure is the coolant really under tho, like 30psi? Looks like everyone thinks it hydrolocked first but I just can’t imagine that much water getting in on one individual stroke when the motors at like 8k rpm
@TheRevo335 жыл бұрын
@@ghettobikelife8833 you really don't need alot of water for it to hydrolock. These stock honda engine are quite high compression and the volume when the piston is at top dead centre is very small, maby around 40ml. So if more than 40ml of water got in then it completely fills the cylinder when at TDC. Also a used, previously turbocharged engine is probably going to experience a fair amount of blow by, so as soon as it cracks the sleve pressurised water pushes water in whilst there is no pressure in the cylinder, either exhaust or intake stroke and boom, bends a rod. Piston gets pushed into the cylinder wall and the rest follows.
@coollasice41755 жыл бұрын
@@ghettobikelife8833 I agree. The coolant pressure is probably less than 15 psi, while the boost pressure is twice that.
@SmokinGunn5 жыл бұрын
No, you are completely wrong with this. Dropped the valve and piston hitting it breaks the sleeve and then the rest is history. As you can hear in the video when this happened, James over revved the engine during she shift (watch is with 0,5x speed) plus he is a complete disaster how he handles that car, shifts etc. No wonder a clown like that breaks an engine when he even cant use it properly.
@becca80395 жыл бұрын
agreed, this is far too much damage to be from a dropped valve alone. if this were a dropped valve due to overrev, you'd see signs of valve float from the other valves as well.
@ProfessorLX5 жыл бұрын
I always love how positive Brent is. It must be nice working with / around him.
@pete13205 жыл бұрын
I'd like to hear Phong's opinion too
@devon17485 жыл бұрын
I second this.
@lumberjaketreeservicellc40025 жыл бұрын
That's literally the first thing I thought. Him and Brent are masters at there craft. Phong is a mad scientist when it comes to Honda's. That all motor he's got is ridiculous
@ianrushsmoustache22825 жыл бұрын
I agree , ask phong
@ecbs2k5 жыл бұрын
Ask pong!!
@95TurboSol5 жыл бұрын
I just want to see what cool piece of art he turns the broken block into
@PokerKing19935 жыл бұрын
100% Brent's theory. Sleeve cracked, coolant filled the cylinder, bent the rod and cracked the piston, valve was a casualty. Water just couldn't get out of the way fast enough. If there is too much water in a cylinder, even trying to start the engine will bend a rod.
@sirbow25 жыл бұрын
My issue with this is that there are hundreds of dents in the head from the valve. If the rod bent and cracked the piston, it wouldnt leave that many nicks in the head. But i guess it depends on how the piston fell apart.... it couldve cracked, taken the valve out, and not fully disentigrated into the pan long enough for the valve to do what it did to the head. who knows! there's really no way to tell exactly.
@benpalumbo67265 жыл бұрын
@@sirbow2 Also wouldn't the force of combustion force all the water out of the engine? I've seen motors with cracked sleeves run for a while.
@leroyhall44015 жыл бұрын
nah for sure the thin ass valve bent the rod which is way thiccer
@mmodtomic71195 жыл бұрын
Explain how the vavle broke please.
@leroyhall44015 жыл бұрын
@@mmodtomic7119 when the piston was trying to go up since water cant be compressed it pushed the valve up and snapped it. what i said may not make sence to you but it does in my head so im going with it
@racedojo5 жыл бұрын
Brent seems to be the most correct based on the actual cycle of the engine, cause and affect to how the engine blew up.... Brent +1 James was just being james..... stock engine with that kind of boost is uncharted waters above 500hp
@slammed-06.type_ss845 жыл бұрын
450 500 is fine for stock. After that internals for sure need upgraded and those k sleeves are good for 600
@k20aef85 жыл бұрын
Rule of thumb with stock k's has been dont go over twice stock hp with boost so if the motor does 220 dont go past 440 and this is just for dependability. Have ran a stock a2 on 20lbs boost smaller turbo doing 46x hp and its ran over 120k miles now.
@slammed-06.type_ss845 жыл бұрын
k20aef8 I’ve got a fully built k20a2 bottom end in my 06
@k20aef85 жыл бұрын
@@slammed-06.type_ss84 yeah they can but I didnt want to blow up my crx so shes happy summer daily at 460, now the ep3 I'm building that's a whole different story. K24a2 being fully built, my biggest problem right now is getting the drivetrain from a honda swift aka the 4 door ep3 its awd... so just a little teaser.
@slammed-06.type_ss845 жыл бұрын
k20aef8 460 is ideal for daily. 500 it can hold it but after you start to get into the i hope she don’t blow. Slick k sleeves can hold 6 but at that point rods and pistons is basically necessary for rods and pistons and such
@diamondperformancefab59315 жыл бұрын
11:50 Brent is right. The hydrolock was first. You cracked the sleeve Kyle. You knew you probably would with that much power on a stock engine. Did it overboost because of the additional passenger load? A boost spike in first might be so fast you didn't even notice. Props to james for ripping it right!
@stepheneades54675 жыл бұрын
Brent's theory makes the most sense to me.. #teambrent
@gingersquatch98445 жыл бұрын
I have seen a Honda hydrolock before and the result was almost the EXACT same as the damage to the Wago motor...
@jeremywilliams94705 жыл бұрын
*Piston has left the chat*
@HomieJeans5 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@RedHotGamerSoldier5 жыл бұрын
Good one haha
@onefastegcoupe5 жыл бұрын
Odddball gone lol
@wishbone82755 жыл бұрын
PLZ let PEDRO make that wago smoooooth as a babys bottom
@dunworx37585 жыл бұрын
dont argue with Brent you know he is right
@wendellgreenidge33625 жыл бұрын
DUNWORX doesn’t make sense
@dunworx37585 жыл бұрын
@@wendellgreenidge3362 Do you think it dropped a valve or somthing
@wendellgreenidge33625 жыл бұрын
I think the sleeve did crack but I don’t think it hydro locked because I’ve seen plenty of engines hydro lock and none caused a valve to break. If the sleeve cracked first then water came into the cylinder then when the piston tried to compress it then the water would have went right back the way it came. I think when the sleeve cracked something else came loose(more than likely a chunk of the piston) and broke the valve off and messed up everything
@dunworx37585 жыл бұрын
@@wendellgreenidge3362 hi Wendell thank you for the reply. i can see where your coming from but i find it hard to see a broken valve cracking the sleeve like that.I know it dropped a valve but it actually broke the valve stem.i still think boost burst the liner ,hydro locked water went everywhere inc the crack where it came from but also flooding the cylinder and getting behind the valve which stopped it closing. the clue is the broken valve.
@wendellgreenidge33625 жыл бұрын
DUNWORX I never said it was a dropped valve that caused all this damage. I said I feel the cylinder sleeve cracked from boost or the piston failed causing the crack in the sleeve and then damaged the valve
@jjmm30m95 жыл бұрын
100 percent agree with brent. Best video on kyles channel for sure. Love tje tech stuff and this is 90 percent of what guys on a budget deal with. Identifying weak points and what was the cuase. The last part of the vid was the best. Watching people take engines apart on a timelapse with music is useless lol
@weedconnoiseur5 жыл бұрын
Brent's 100% right on the hydrlock. The crack is in the cumbustion zone and it could've cylinder walked without a block guard too. Aluminum pistons wont crack steel sleeves! just like jet fuel can't melt them!
@weedconnoiseur5 жыл бұрын
@Marty Fisher That is very possible too. Not very common in stock Honda engines so much. People boost them without opening them up all the time, without issue. On something like an LS I've heard of piston rings being too tight for boost and it's more common than Honda. Hondas weak points are IMO the rods, sleeves then poisons. Regardless of how though, the cracked sleeve caused the failure. Probably even stopped the valve from closing making it snap. 😕 they could probably look for water in the intake port of that cylinder to confirm. If it's not completely full of everything else that flew around in there xD
@weedconnoiseur5 жыл бұрын
@Mad Adam like they said "what came first? The chicken or the egg?" If the cylinder moved, the sleeve let go under the extra load or a hung up valve hard to tell with all that carnage. The was the crack on the sleeve is from bigger from top to bottom suggests that's where it started. Right next to where the block guards fill in too 😄
@weedconnoiseur5 жыл бұрын
@Mad Adam haha well not warming up a car before ripping on it is always going to end in a bad time. Especially when it's boosted. You think that's a pretty new mistake for the boostedboiz ☺️ I don't think James ripping it into second was any worse than what Kyle or cleetus would have done to it! But it just so happened to let go while he was driving I think bad luck of the draw haha
@weedconnoiseur5 жыл бұрын
@Mad Adam I agree as well. it could have been basically a perfect storm of things. All-wheel drive puts on different loads than a spinning front wheel drive ☺️ haha well not warming up a car before ripping on it is always going to end in a bad time. Especially when it's boosted. You think that's a pretty new mistake for the boostedboiz ☺️ If it wasn't ready to rip Kyle should've has let him in it yet so that's on him LOL I don't think James ripping it into second was any worse than what Kyle or cleetus would have done to it! But if it was ready-to-send then it just so happened to let go while he was driving then I think bad luck of the draw haha
@NickDiNunzio5 жыл бұрын
Jet fuel still burns above the recrystallization temp of a36 structural steel lol and well above forging temp. There's no rigidity at that temperature, that argument is so ridiculous
@jaredthisdelle56175 жыл бұрын
Hydro lock. For sure
@hongbitter71425 жыл бұрын
No water in oil tho
@matthewstembarski59465 жыл бұрын
Engine stopped before had a chance to mix in won’t take much water to do that
@ryanalexander15075 жыл бұрын
It broke
@carrothead84625 жыл бұрын
Hey the other fucking idiot is dumb for arguing with brent
@TimZ0075 жыл бұрын
Agree. Cracked sleeve was pretty clean at the crack. Not like it was cracked from a piston smashing it. Looks like it build so much pressure it blew out just like a busted condom. LOL
@TheTuttleCrew5 жыл бұрын
Brents right hydro damage all the way!
@gavdaman215 жыл бұрын
James = The Hondanator. I need your clothes, your boots and your Honda! 😂😂😂
@seanbowers64395 жыл бұрын
This is gold👌😂😂😂😂😂😂
@brootpk5 жыл бұрын
SupremeVids - lmao!!
@DrtyBrd_5.05 жыл бұрын
James!! What did you do!! “Talk to the Hand” 🤚🏼
@IslayAnderson5 жыл бұрын
Boosted boys quickly turned into American chopper at the end lol
@k20castro5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@WickedMoto5 жыл бұрын
LMFAO! however that said, that was 25% because they didn't start yelling and throwing chairs at eachother or slamming doors and shit! They need to go full send next time
@maccoman718525 жыл бұрын
"I'll tell you another thing pop.." "Yea? Yea? Shut up Mikey.."
@JohnnyFabz5 жыл бұрын
This comment is gold!!
@B4Ctom15 жыл бұрын
no thrown chairs
@samhoyt495 жыл бұрын
Love this episode, think James blowing it up was worth this content lol. Getting a debate/analysis of the incident from a bunch of experts is priceless. At least to me and many others who aren’t around it often if ever.
@sieve55 жыл бұрын
Emilio plays pool competitively? cool!
@092783sn5 жыл бұрын
It’s obvious. To much torque. The liner cracked so water got in. The rice swelled up. You can’t compress rice so the rod bent then a piece of either the piston or a piece of sushi got stuck under the valve so it couldn’t close and the piston hit it and broke it of.
@wobblysauce5 жыл бұрын
It noticed Phong's stop and deiced to do the same.
@_i-kr6eg5 жыл бұрын
Im sure you wannabe car enthusiasts. Clueless manchild or kid
@092783sn5 жыл бұрын
Not even close. Sounds like your feelings get hurt pretty easy. 😰
@_i-kr6eg5 жыл бұрын
@@092783sn no you troll maybe because I'm in the automotive industry unlike you haven't got a clue. Still at home with your mum and dad i bet manchild. Stfu
@fuckeththou89255 жыл бұрын
@@_i-kr6eg you're the only one acting like q man child here little skid stain. No one gives a fuck if some KZbin commenter says they're part of the automotive industry.
@garybloom74455 жыл бұрын
the coolest part of the video was the diagnosis from everyone. What I admire the most about Brett is that his explanation of the unfolding of events is fact based. The guy knows his shit.
@wendellgreenidge33625 жыл бұрын
So no one thought to drain the oil before removing the engine?
@Ironsights855 жыл бұрын
right!?
@adambergeron69915 жыл бұрын
It was pretty obvious when they pulled the plug it was done why waste the time
@9rjharper5 жыл бұрын
@@adambergeron6991 So you don't end up with 4 quarts of oil on your floor.
@TheMrMegaSlow5 жыл бұрын
To show you the power of flex tape I cracked this sleeve in half!
@MecanicaForte5 жыл бұрын
A lot a damage...
@flyingmunk89565 жыл бұрын
I say some plastic from you headlight went into the turbo. Made it through the system and cuased the whole thing
@nickangelo21195 жыл бұрын
Glass housing headlights
@flyingmunk89565 жыл бұрын
@@nickangelo2119 lol. correction. " glass in the turbo"
@ThatHoodlum195 жыл бұрын
Would of thought most of it would of got caught in the intercooler... Well there should at least be some evidence left over on the intake side of the cooler, if this is the case. But I doubt it, personally.
@justa5oh1365 жыл бұрын
I hope you’re brain didn’t overheat coming to that conclusion
@chaboiethz74835 жыл бұрын
@@justa5oh136 you're?
@HenskiB5 жыл бұрын
14:45 When you chillin with the boys and that cola kick in hard
@CureMachine5 жыл бұрын
And salmiakki
@LatinoAD5 жыл бұрын
Seeing brent and that guy argue what happened is funny as heck and entertaining I love it lol.
@jgwm35745 жыл бұрын
James is the final boss.
@yaz1155 жыл бұрын
Hearing you guys argue over how you think it blew up was beautiful 😂
@wheeln24-795 жыл бұрын
The way you guys talk about these k engines makes them sound like the LS of Honda's the way you just grab a old stock engine out of wreck or whatever don't really mess with and run it. That's pretty cool.
@steveoarehero5 жыл бұрын
A Vtec joke... Knock knock? Who's there? Cylinder 2 and 3
@stevoislookingforgolfballs5 жыл бұрын
I thought you were going to go with, Piston Broke
@davidpritchard66855 жыл бұрын
Steveninthe321 😂😂😂😂
@nb2alex5 жыл бұрын
Steveninthe321 cylinder 2 and 3 who ?
@anthonycarpenter96625 жыл бұрын
Cylinder 2 and 3 poo'd
@rogergore495 жыл бұрын
What a awesome bunch of guys. To understand accidents happen and you fix shit and move on. james is a great guy and wouldn't hurt a fly on purpose lol
@corradoracervwvrt82765 жыл бұрын
You & Emilio are such a chill dude!! Great team work
@MrBoberty5 жыл бұрын
When are you guys getting a lift for your bay?
@RedHotGamerSoldier5 жыл бұрын
At least a set of quick jacks
@Jeremy-eu9bx5 жыл бұрын
When they went to Texas and the other guys drove to pick something special up, I figured they were going to buy some used lifts, not a used dyno haha. They definitely need to get some lifts in there.
@tokeypokey5 жыл бұрын
@@Jeremy-eu9bx lifts are cheap and driving to Texas from colorado for one is stupid
@vandarkholme75585 жыл бұрын
brent has it, hydrolocked 100%
@littlecole7025 жыл бұрын
Who think Brent is right like the comment!
@carlobrigante8815 жыл бұрын
How is that other dude gona try argue with Brent, does he know Brent is a god 🙌
@Knoss0s5 жыл бұрын
For real, Brent is fucking engine Sherlock Holmes
@BassManBobBassCovers5 жыл бұрын
makes sense the water kept the valve from opening, valve broke = boom
@lonestaronestar18455 жыл бұрын
Brent is %1000 correct
@mawe425 жыл бұрын
Brent or Shaun is right for sure. A droped valve doesn't do that might carnage and definitely doesn't crack sleeves.
@JonesyJoe5 жыл бұрын
Brent's right full stop
@tacunleti43965 жыл бұрын
Love the time-lapse! You guys should do more of them when you are doing general stuff as it seems less intensive filming wise. Love your vids!
@tdlaustralia77915 жыл бұрын
I think brent is 100% right. The piston wont be able to push all the water out the exhaust valve fast enough and water can't be compressed.
@coollasice41755 жыл бұрын
*How will the the boost pressure (20 psi) let the water in the cylinder?*
@luxstar4life5 жыл бұрын
@@coollasice4175 if its on an exhaust stroke it wont have boost in the mix
@tdlaustralia77915 жыл бұрын
@@coollasice4175 the cooling system is under a lot of pressure when it heats up, thats why your safety cap explodes when the pressure gets too high, more than the boost pressure. All that space around the cylinders is filled with cooling fluid and when the sleeve cracks the water pours in.
@Moecean5 жыл бұрын
Hit up james to come help with the rebuild! I thought I remember him saying he wants to build a honda
@RedHotGamerSoldier5 жыл бұрын
James get the TOOLBOX!!!!!!!
@Whitt_Built5 жыл бұрын
$10; says all that damage happened within a split second of each other before James push in the clutch and released the rotating force on the engine. Valve broke, beat up the piston and cracked sleeve, water came in too cylinder and caused a hydrolock shattering the piston and bending a rod
@Jporter61775 жыл бұрын
ive done it a few times at 700 on a factory rotating assembly... looks about the same lmao
@morganclawson99855 жыл бұрын
If the valve dropped first there wouldnt have been compression to hydro lock. $10 please lol
@adolpholiverbush58675 жыл бұрын
It did happen within a second.. but it wasn't the valve.. couldn't be.. cracked a sleeve first and hydro locket
@morganclawson99855 жыл бұрын
Cracked sleeve and hydro locked and when the piston went boom a chunk took out the valve. My theory
@Whitt_Built5 жыл бұрын
@@morganclawson9985 depends. You cannot compress water and if the water could not escape through the port quick enough it could still create enough Force to bend a rod. I didn't watch the video very close but wasn't the valve still seated in the head also?
@Shadow0fd3ath245 жыл бұрын
The valve broke at the middle of the stem which means something was lodged under it usually. If the valve had dropped it would be from the keepers and if it hit it would bend and break apart as they ARE NOT that strong. I think Brent/shawn is right that the piston broke and battered everything and cracked the valve stem then smashed into top of the cylinder and cracked the sleeve due to it hydro locking. It's actually commonish with these
@djbrummc25 жыл бұрын
the delegation of damage is hilarious!! all of you guys are awesome debating over the dead engine lol.
@projectdelta505 жыл бұрын
im jealous that James can blow up a Honda like that, thats impressive. cant wait to see wago run again. Still want to see the 2kz
@danielfmyers5 жыл бұрын
A haiku: Boosted the Wago Made several high rev pulls Wago no like James
@EpicFail4005 жыл бұрын
To prove the strength of flex tape, I BLEW THIS MOTOR UP
@caveman63455 жыл бұрын
😂
@mysteryman99405 жыл бұрын
And slapped it with the might of zeus
@RedHotGamerSoldier5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@dylanvance965 жыл бұрын
He says "I'll let him drive it blow it up again" I can't even get my boi to let me go to the liquor store 😂😂
@evapowah5 жыл бұрын
The top of the piston is the part of the engine subject to far more pressure and temperature. The top of the piston shattered. Then the shattered corner did havoc, causing further shatter of piston, valve and jacket. The stock piston is probably good up to 300HP. The effective weight on top of the piston is in the range of tens of Tons at 400s HP. This needs special piston. But bear in mind that the Japanese engine was driven off-road without air filter, for some time. Dust accumulated on bottom of intercooler. Dust from off-road on bottom of intercooler was being shaken hardly during the time when the engine was broken. Dust got into intake valve.
@WelcomeToTheMadness5 жыл бұрын
“Honda’s don’t blow up!” Car God’s: Hold my beer. 🍻 -Piston: knock, knock.- Valves: Hello, do you have a moment to talk about our lord and savior...V-Tech!
@TheRealNolanStyles5 жыл бұрын
Welcome To The Madness what's v-tech
@bigfrankhu2l5 жыл бұрын
vtech your talking about a phone right ?
@ontehmoon98465 жыл бұрын
vtec* maybe it was an autocorrect.
@joystix115 жыл бұрын
Hondas* Gods*
@ahapainenpaavo60105 жыл бұрын
Welcome To The Madness Good joke. Bad grammar.
@HTSWAGGER5 жыл бұрын
Clicked faster than wago blew up 😂😂
@anonimous3365 жыл бұрын
hahhahahahaha REKT
@lifewithanxietyeveryday58975 жыл бұрын
To soon lol
@caveman63455 жыл бұрын
So you took all weekend?
@HTSWAGGER5 жыл бұрын
CaveMan what lol
@caveman63455 жыл бұрын
It's Murphdog it took wago all weekend to blow.
@thatboydakota91745 жыл бұрын
Gonna take a hefty dab for this one 😰
@Moecean5 жыл бұрын
For real just packing my bong now
@Z4G.5 жыл бұрын
Lets goooo!
@dextermorgan97035 жыл бұрын
Im smokin bowls rn✌
@HTSWAGGER5 жыл бұрын
Dakota Randall I’m reporting you to the feds
@ThatONEdaddy695 жыл бұрын
Hell ya boys!
@PenZon5 жыл бұрын
If you listen to the audio the engine is happy up to the point where the clutch is lifted on second gear. It also sounds like there was a bit of wheelspin at the end of first gear, resulting the rpm to drop low after the shift. Full boost at low rpm > bent rod > cracked piston > broken sleeve, snapped valve > dead.
@OldCarAlley5 жыл бұрын
As a marine mechanic, I see hydro locked engines often. That engine hydro locked, and yes the valve got broke from flying piston parts. Brent is spot on!
@jamesc.57345 жыл бұрын
Brent's shop = Brent right on death of engine ;O)
@addicted4life5755 жыл бұрын
Old Gear Head It’s not Brent’s shop! Brent’s shop is next door...
@freedomfox81835 жыл бұрын
Lmao Kyle just hiding there aiming camera at all of them arguing over why it broke, everyone could be right how it happened either way engines toast put a new one in and send it...
@theangryitalian79225 жыл бұрын
GixxerDad 600 yeah he needs to pull a page out of cleeter’s book and come in like a wrecking ball
@Jasta3155 жыл бұрын
James get the tool box!
@joelmartens47375 жыл бұрын
that was crack up the end with all the arguing haha i recon Brent is right he has years of experience
@ArturssonEngineering5 жыл бұрын
Word to Brent! He is definitely on point here, valves pretty much cannot crack a sleeve nor a piston. The piston and head absorbs almost all the debri from the valve. A sleeve is too hard for a valve to do any serious damage as puncture it. Water isnt compressible and it cannot move fast enough to get out of the bore so rod always gives first when exposed to water. Doesnt take much water to hydrolock an engine especially on boost.
@SnoizYDubstep5 жыл бұрын
This is the best debate i've ever heard in my life. Screw the news lol
@DangaRanga5 жыл бұрын
I love the arguing over how it blew up. Me and my buddies do the same shit, arguing about something that at that point doesn't matter but will spend an hour getting heated for the hell of it lmao
@PFIBrent5 жыл бұрын
Dangaranga just about learning and kikn it with the boiz
@GetUtedRacing5 жыл бұрын
I love you guys your cars just crack me up
@redrolo1495 жыл бұрын
They crack their engines up too.
@zjwilliams19915 жыл бұрын
Most definitely a hydrolock. Brent is 100% correct. A valve will not bend a rod. Too much boost pressure on a bone stock engine cracked the sleeve and it instantly filled with coolant. Source- me (getting my BAS in Automotive Technology)
@THEBOZZ18015 жыл бұрын
You where on the right way, but I saw o lot things like that as a German Car mechanic and my opinion is that through the high load it cracked the piston in pieces, the broken piston pieces got pushed up to fast when the valve was still open, cracked the cylinder and broke the valve and since there wasn't enough room for the rod to go up high as normally because of all the carnage above it bent the rod... Btw I saw things very similar on some Audi Quattro cars and on some Golf R even on a boosted BRZ, even if that one doesn't have AWD, but it hat some wide Toyo Proxxes R888R on it...
@dukethunder255 жыл бұрын
Even tho the engine blew at least it's not the drivetrain 👌
@lifewithanxietyeveryday58975 жыл бұрын
I thought that would go first honestly
@3a.m.2845 жыл бұрын
Isn’t the engine technically part of the drivetrain?
@ahapainenpaavo60105 жыл бұрын
金3 A.M. No... What? :'D
@dukethunder255 жыл бұрын
No that's the trans, driveline, and differential and more lol
@justa5oh1365 жыл бұрын
2nd gear on those 6 speed k trans are the weakest part on a k swap.. also are those valve springs..they go all the time... the first thing recommended is doing springs on them if your Revving over 7500
@traphauss52355 жыл бұрын
Just the stuff that happens when youre out here doing it for Dale.
@traphauss52355 жыл бұрын
@@aliceshaw8265 I probably have a bigger Dale memorabilia collection that you even knew products that existed. But keep wondering.
@kyledert20495 жыл бұрын
Just like Brent with the positive attitude. (That can be fixed)
@wobblysauce5 жыл бұрын
Yep, clean the mating surface and spin the valves and do a leak test and send it.
@GhostEaglesable5 жыл бұрын
i am a mechanic of 20+ years and i have seen many ways a engine can and will hydro and that is a most common for honda's the rev limit exceeds and cause it to rev past its breaking point and then it causes a small fracture somewhere along the sleeve and then itself explained from there on. the crack as you can clearly see, was forced outwords meaning that the pressure was great if a hairline started and the pressure was great then that hairline becomes a crack leaving way to much pressure and then valve comes at a point where the compression is to great the valve is forced and under stress either bending it or snapping it off. the motor was in my opinion over 200k then being boosted so it was pretty close to death worn rings and bearings also played a factor in the death of the honda motor
@StraightOutThaGudda4U5 жыл бұрын
I've been working on cars for years, went to school and got my education and whatnot and from what happened to the motor Brent is exactly right, the most a valve can do is damage the piston, it can't crack the sleeve especially front on top, sleeves crack from the top on the cylinder and the crack would spread by down downwards , a rod can only bend from either water/coolant or excessive fuel entering the cylinder, solid liquid cannot be compressed and with the force something has to absorb it and the weakest point was the rod since the rod is at that mid point of the crankshaft and piston, so Brent is absolutely right on what happened, sleeve was cracked and and tons of water entered at the same time, piston was going up on the compression stroke while the valve was partially open cause on valve was about to be fully closed when the piston is was coming up but half of the cylinder was filled up with water as you can see how long that crack is, and the piston continued to come up and tired to compress the coolant and the valve toke some strain too since the valve is a very weak component compared to the piston and rod and it broke and fell down into the cylinder and well at the same time when the rod and piston was coming up the rod bent first and then the valve broke and assisted in breaking the piston as well and that's what basically happened, my education is probably no where close to Brent but anyone who really knows about engines can really look into it and tell that's exactly what happened so I agree with Brent cause I can't see how else that could of happened
@cozy_kat5 жыл бұрын
Transmission stuff from the UK, something from Quaife maybe?
@BBoyDrkNova5 жыл бұрын
Brent was right. Even if you dont completely understand it all. It makes a shit load of sense.
@bigdaddy4255 жыл бұрын
Where is your engine stand? or table?
@RedHotGamerSoldier5 жыл бұрын
Right they just got new ones sent by a company a few weeks back, but probably all being used
@dionschwass18935 жыл бұрын
Brents right with the hydro lock to crack sleeve have had it happen to my 91 turbo prelude that damage looks very similar 😀
@LSGUnseen5 жыл бұрын
I been building engines for almost 17 years now. Just from what I saw in the video of it dying and the carnage here, that to my eyes looks like a high rpm hydro lock. The head looks fine on that one if you know a good machinist but that block is done. Crank is likely toast aswell. Looked like a fun weekend though!
@jacksmiththeboss5 жыл бұрын
Brent is correct: the crack put coolant in cylinder.
@hdrenginedevelopment75075 жыл бұрын
If I want to see clean horsepower, I watch PFI. If I want some failure mode info and general carnage, I watch the CleetusMcFarland youtube channel. So this is what happens when they meet? 😂
@chriskillZ3215 жыл бұрын
Lmao I love the debate they had on what happened to the cylinder
@luthierlong5 жыл бұрын
In all my years of racing and building engines as well as blowing them up under extreme conditions, I agree with Brent. The open deck of the stock block was most likely compromised allowing water into the cylinder. As it hydro locked the sleeve fractured causing the piston to rotate in the bore which would make it taller and thus impact the valve. I can take it a step further and calculate the piston speed as well as the additional height that a piston would achieve turned sideways in the bore. I will add those calculations in a separate comment.
@shaunpc25125 жыл бұрын
I’m with Brent too, I’ve never seen a valve destroy a piston to that extent but I’ve seen a hydro locked engine cause all kinds of secondary damage including cracking the head.
@stevenengage22975 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ... that cylinder looks worse than Lindsay Lohan after a night out with friends.
@95TurboSol5 жыл бұрын
LOL, well at least the block doesn't try to kidnap homeless kids on a rough night out
@docthomas885 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@ClumsyCars5 жыл бұрын
ive noticed ks always have valve issues
@jackass551005 жыл бұрын
Get phong to fix tht head
@abovegroundgarage5 жыл бұрын
Time for a light K series build! Stainless valves, stronger springs, stronger rods and maybe a block guard? Get some lower comp pistons so you can dump the boost more efficiently! Definitely a hydrolock though I agree! Absolute Carnage!
@triedproven99085 жыл бұрын
Im going with hydro lock. You need to run a block guard on the open head of the k or the head gasket will eventually let go and let water into the cylinder then boom. Some people use to oring the block for cheap and use a copper gasket. not sure if thats still done. Also need ARP head studs torqued at 80-lbft and a nice mls head gasket. That engines toast but you may have 3 good pistons and rods to carry over as a lamp shade stand.
@TomBudin5 жыл бұрын
"you can't compress water" correct
@kylelove9275 жыл бұрын
Happy birthday Hayden!
@turejdmzcdohc48015 жыл бұрын
Leave that motor just like that and put it in the Showcase that's badass I won't even take that anymore part love the content made my day full send all around and everybody quit hating on the guy for sending the motor if you're going to send a motor do it the right way and he did it don't hate appreciate
@BluntBoyMagic5 жыл бұрын
Gotta love to see that Milwaukee putting in work.💪🏻
@badbadgolf875 жыл бұрын
Awesome videos. Always funny n great learning experience for people that dont kno much or just want to learn more about automobiles. Thanks n keep up the great work.
@JoseReyes-gh5sz5 жыл бұрын
When are we going to get some footage of Emilio playing pool
@AK47xSNIPES5 жыл бұрын
Cracked a sleeve and sucked water down and valve bent and broke from all the water trying to escape
@georgem.61365 жыл бұрын
I'm sure some drain pan companies would love to sponsor you guys
@mazdamatt77035 жыл бұрын
🤣
@ShanepxII5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@SoadOwnsUrFace5 жыл бұрын
Brent knows his shit definitely with him. The load with awd, that hard shift, high revs and more weight in the car bent the rod and it hydrolocked.
@kgsxr7s0855 жыл бұрын
Been fixing blwn up motors and assessing what happed for years and brent deff correct
@benc.11975 жыл бұрын
I agree with Sean. I think the load bent the rod. The rod bending is what killed it whether load or hydrolocked.
@Brollebol25 жыл бұрын
Project Farm reference? Love the videos.
@CLIBBINSANDHAWGS5 жыл бұрын
Such an underrated channel
@grahamefreestone53095 жыл бұрын
Maybe Todd can test James. Lol. Sorry James. I'm a big fan really. 👍 🇬🇧
@tylercole35145 жыл бұрын
Brent is right for one simple reason: The rod bent. Dropping a valve won't bend a rod, the valve will go straight thru the piston. I've seen it happen a few times before, the valve will chop the piston right up or embed itself into it but the rod won't bend. Really the only thing that'll bend a rod is a solid obstruction, and that's exactly what water is.
@mattie33495 жыл бұрын
It’s a good thing when you laugh about it being mad gets you no where to yes big up to you guys!!
@swanksta15 жыл бұрын
james threw her in first and let her rip all the way to 8600
@AdmitthatijustdiditX5 жыл бұрын
Probable past with the inertia moving and putting clutch in.