Aston Martin Valkyrie | LAP RECORD Bahrain-GP production cars 2.01,01 min | sport auto

Car: Aston Martin Valkyrie; Driver: sport auto's Test Driver Christian Gebhardt
Tyre: Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 R N0; Track: Bahrain-GP (5,4 km); Time: 02.01,01 min
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[@SportautoDe]

McLaren 688HS 2.12.1 min (Production car record Bahrain so far); Ferrari FXX K Evo 2.02.03 min (with slicks, not road legal), McLaren Senna GTR 2.05.04 min (with slicks, not road legal). Source: fastestlaps.com/tracks/bahrain-international-circuit

[@jurgenwerner8404]

Das der Unterschied so gering zum FxxkEvo ist wundert mich. Aber wurde auch die volle Power und das maximale aus dem Auto herausgeholt?

[@Cain353]

Without ERS on the straight. It would have been even quicker with that boost.

[@scherzobenhaadi]

@@jurgenwerner8404 Nein, da geht noch einiges mehr mit dem Ding. Geht locker unter 2:00.00

[@dennisjungmann178]

@@jurgenwerner8404 wundert mich nicht, der fxx war auf slicks.

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

Holy hell, how much faster was the track only version.

[@yendor86]

That car has more in it. Driver was very casual in the turns

[@fullsendsimracing]

Exactly. These people in the comments have zero clue about what they are talking about. This car has 2 seconds on this laptime without a single tire squeel

[@slapmynutz]

He was not pushing as hard as he could and was very hesitant into all breaking zones. He also took interesting lines into most corners (e.g Turn 4: he took a very tight line, Ideally it’s better to be more aggressive with throttle mid-corner to force some understeer so the car can push itself out so you can take a wider line), not using enough entry curb to open up the corner. Not balancing the car well enough, especially into T9, 10 double left hander. Not keeping the platform of the car flat due to the harsh steering and throttle inputs, and therefore loosing a lot of performance from the underfloor. As a car that produces the majority of its downforce from its underfloor, and not keeping it flat will likely cause huge losses in aero performance. All of that said I don't imgaine this is an easy car to drive and nor do I think it is a confidence inspiring car (Particularly under breaks due to the massive amount of antidive in the suspension making it difficult to ‘feel’ the brakes), especially around a track like Bahrain were there are alot of difficult corners like the downhill and off-camber T9, T10 double left hander and tricky conditions like dust and sand making the surface very slippery along with the bumpy nature of the track. it’s difficult to predict, but there is time to be made depending on tyre wear, trye preparation, and conditions . He is fully capable of setting a faster time, I think he just needs more track running time with the car.

[@VollstandigErleuchtung]

Or they could be sandbagging.. But I'd doubt it

[@Rezcuz]

Telling a pro how to drive is wild

[@justchrisyt9279]

​@@Rezcuzall he said is pretty correct though whats wrong with that?

[@peteranders7106]

@@Rezcuz Anyone can analyze a sporting performance from a birds eye view with all the data and film available. Driving better than the pro would be wild. Imagine if an engineer or film analyst couldn't make suggestions to a driver, especially someone that knows the track. And in today's age of technology you got kids that use simulators to learn beating very experienced drivers. I mean Micha lives on the ring and got toasted by some kids that basically never sat in a race car before. So you really don't need to be a pro driver to see there was a lot left in the tank here. I personally felt like I was watching a BMW with a lot of power. I am super underwhelmed by the cornering and breaking performance. But then again as others said already, the car is simply too expensive to risk anything, so the driver stayed faaar away from the limit at all times and the AMR brakes with 0.9G more force and corners with double the G-force. Aero is different too. It's a different beast entirely. As a total nab who knows nothing about the track or driving fast and has only ever watched laps on the ring, I get the impression that the car can go 10km/h faster in every single turn, you can be on the gas much earlier and break much later. I'd also say 3-5 seconds faster should be easily doable. Now put that car on slicks. I'd be surprised if you couldn't go another 5-6 seconds fast then. Now put a factory driver in the car and tell them we'll cover the cost if anything goes wrong, push it as hard as you want. Now I personally think that'll get you another 2-3 seconds. I believe this car on slicks with a top driver risking it could go 10-14 seconds faster. The AMR version should be even faster than that and get within 15 seconds of a formula 1 car in my opinion.

[@therandomshow9994]

There’s no way he was pushing that machine that’s a sub 2 min car

[@戴紀煬]

1.4 lateral G in first corner, 1.4 lateral G in mid speed corner. It should be able to pull more G force in mid speed corner with more downforce.

[@zodi3352]

I dont think he was really showing the full potential of the car

[@DonLee1980]

Looking at the G-meter, the driver wasn't really pulling anything more than what a GT3RS would get. So definitely he wasn't taking full advantage of the aero and grip.

[@TheEulerID]

It was on road legal tyres. Put it on slicks and it will pull way more G in the corners and and under braking. You simply can't compare road tyres to racing slicks.

[@DonLee1980]

@@TheEulerID gt3rs is a road car on road legal tires dimwit.

[@sambitdas9416]

The car is not being pushed at all. The irony is that fast cars such as this are so expensive that people are afraid to thrash them, and cheaper cars can be just as fast as those when thrashed (maybe), and are probably way more rewarding than this. Awesome technological achievement? Definitely. Makes sense? Probably not.

[@Turbohayabusa100]

Hab ja mit viel gerechnet, aber eine gezeitete Runde inkl Telemetrie? Wau!!!! Weiter so Sport Auto! 10 Daumen hoch

[@angel_one1259]

Driver didn’t really push, lot of margin. But good stuff

[@joat9105]

he could chop 5 second off

[@joat9105]

he could chop 5 second ooff

[@utkarshhv]

Not pushing to the limit, ez sub 2 this car.

[@GeilerBriefkasten]

Die Strecke liegt den Aston Martins wohl.😃

[@DonLee1980]

When Mercedes released the lap times of the AMG One, it became the first production car to literally be faster than a GT3 car. This Valkyrie lap was not done by factory driver, and conditions (multiple tries and tires). But it was in the same ball park of a GT3 pole position. So given a factory effort, we could see the lap go 3 seconds faster, but it's not anywhere as fast as I expected from this much lighter, much more hardcore track car.

[@okaythisisfuckingrid]

Not pushing hard

[@DonLee1980]

@@okaythisisfuckingrid There's no more than 3s left in this car, which is still slow for a car that was to rival "LMP and F1 cars"

[@Jesko.]

@@DonLee1980 Did you actually believe it would come close to F1 and LMP1 or P2? Geez how naive.

[@DonLee1980]

@@Jesko. LOL. of course not, even if Aston Martin said so. Perhaps a 1970s F1 car... But I did think it had a shot to be as fast as an LMP2 car. Too bad the car ended up to be 250kg heavier than it claimed it would be.

[@carscoffeeandcannabis-634]

Maybe the AMR Pro will have lap times that compete with these. Apparently it's a wildly different machine. No matter how good the engineering behind a car is, no way you are gonna compete with real race cars on slicks with street tires@@DonLee1980

[@12zaf1]

He looks like he did a warm up lap. There is easily still 5-8 seconds in it. Even the same driver could have gone 5 secs quicker, but this is not a german car, so this is what you get...

[@lewis-x7]

Genauso sind die Nordschleifenzeiten. Zu langsam. Professionelle Fahrer bremsen später, beschleunigen früher und fahren in die Kurve mit mehr Geschwindigkeit.

[@mkm6073]

Sieht so aus, als wenn da noch einiges an Luft nach oben ist. Wäre cool mal eine Zeit von Alonso in dem Ding zu sehen;)

[@chucknorris99111]

und dann noch im Valkyrie AMR PRO mit Slicks🙃

[@ShionShinigami]

Da ist aber noch Luft nach oben. Ein Fernando Alonso macht da bestimmt eine 1:55 draus.😊👍🏻

[@elpatolucas22]

Apareció el lloronsista

[@Gercollector]

Sehr stark gefahren 💪🏻

[@Predator0117]

Naja...wäre er stark gefahren, wäre die Zeit wohl unter 2 Min. Augenscheinlich oft sehr früh gebremst, wenn ich auf die G-Werte gucke und zu den Randsteinen teils auch viel Platz gelassen. Die Ansage war höchstwahrscheinlich "mach bloß nichts kaputt", sonst wäre auch der Aston-Testfahrer gefahren.

[@gt-r9035]

Ist auch die Frage, ob die ECU bei der "hot lap" wieder die RPM gekappt haben könnte...

[@who_stole_my_username]

Can't wait for the Nordschleife Supertest!

[@chrisgear]

Den wird’s nicht geben .

[@SportautoDe]

😎👍

[@WBMotorsportFan]

​@@chrisgear Würde mich auch sehr überraschen.

[@jurgenwerner8404]

@@chrisgear nur wenn ein Kunde sein Auto zur Verfügung stellt weil er selber sehen will was möglich ist.

[@chrisgear]

@@jurgenwerner8404 Ob der Kollege Gebhard den auf der NS annähernd ans Limit bringen könnte? Nix gegen die Fahrkünste, aber das Ding wäre da schon kriminell denke ich.

[@AdrjanL]

Das sah für mich so aus, als ob in einigen Kurven noch gut Zeit drin wäre..vllt irre ich mich aber auch.

[@KopaszJack]

klar man will ja nicht 3 Millionen EUR riskieren

[@Euromasterrace5000]

Ne, da wär definitiv noch mehr drin

[@3xoticG4m3r]

Auf alle fälle, grade ab turn 4 bis 9 wär mehr drin, hat da die strasse nicht voll ausgenutzt. Kein Hate am Fahrer, 1160ps sind schwer zu fahren und das Ding kostet halt unendlich viel, einfach nur meine Beobachtung.

[@AdrjanL]

@@KopaszJack Sorry, aber nein. Dann soll es halt n offizieller Aston Martin Fahrer machen, i don't care. AMG ONE wurde auch ans Limit geprügelt aufm Ring bei schlechten Bedingungen, der 918 vor ca. 9 Jahren ebenfalls.

[@skywalk3x]

I don’t know if it’s the camera but it looks like the car has more to give. Great video

[@T0m215h]

This Valkyrie doesn't have the optional amr track pack, it could have gone way faster.

[@DWillis7]

Imagine if this had the track pack option too. Downforce goes from 1100kg to 1900kg.

[@nahcurtis]

This car is only 5 seconds slower than the best qualifying laps of the LMGTE cars last season. Insane speed and agility.

[@scherzobenhaadi]

And just with a not so fast driver in it...

[@DWillis7]

It doesn't even have the track pack option fitted which increases downforce from 1100kg to 1900kg

[@srinitaaigaura]

@@DWillis7 Even if it did, the tires will seriously limit it. The AMR Pro should have a significantly better lap time.

[@slapmynutz]

Note that the peak breaking force in this video is 1.7g on cup 2r. The peak breaking force on a 992 GT3RS (which is about 150kg heavier, and same downforce @ Spa Francorchamps) could regularly hit 2.0g breaking on cup 2r.

[@DanielSilva-fy6bo]

Does this mean the 3RS breaks better? I mean knowing Porsche and how blurry the lines are between that and a cup car I don’t doubt it, if anything it would disappoint me knowing that a 300k sports car can break better than a ground up track machine costing 10x

[@parpaing_1]

​@@DanielSilva-fy6bonot sure that it brakes better, because there are way harder braking zones on spa

[@ayrton4ever1]

Valkyrie AMR Pro with Nico Hülkenberg "on Michelin LMP slick tires not just for grip, but because the sidewalls can handle extreme levels of downforce. How extreme? Telemetry from the laps featured here revealed 2.5g in turns and 3g under braking"

[@slapmynutz]

@@DanielSilva-fy6bo What im getting at here is that, its strange that a gt3rs with 800kg peak downforce can break with greater deceleration than the Valkarye which is lighter and has peak 1100kg downforce. The car wasn't driven to its max potential around this lap.

[@tenzrex3845]

He isn’t pushing the car

[@swenschubert]

Was für ein Geschoss und Christian voll am Steuer.Bitte auch den Bericht lesen...macht grosse Freude. Nur noch bitte auf die Nordschleife😊

[@egelechad]

what if alonso drove it with slicks

[@VollstandigErleuchtung]

Seeing cars like this makes me appreciate f1 cars so much more... Seeing this lap is just me comparing it unfairly to f1 which is stupid 🤦

[@kingkhoda]

It seems the car isn’t being driven at its full potential: very early and soft braking, soft turn-ins & exits out of the corners….Im probably wrong but it seems as if the car had another 20-30% to give with a more aggressive driver. Beautiful sounds though 🍻

[@fragu123]

😂😂😂

[@elpatolucas22]

Segui jugando jueguitos niño 🤡 son todos pilotos detras del teclado

[@erwinspierings1]

Sounds better than F1 cars anno 2023

[@SportautoDe]

👏👍

[@jurandspychow3766]

Remember, when back in 2016, they promised 3g cornering and f1 pace lap times ?

[@MyRealName]

And you believed it? F1 pace is just a crazy idea, but it does look like this was nowhere near the limit of the car and the driver is doesn't seem to be very familiar with the track and doesn't look very confident which is understandable. It can go much quicker for sure, but F1 pace is on another level, of course.

[@jurandspychow3766]

@@MyRealName I did not, that is not my point here. My point was about the silly supercar marketing nowadays, where both the manufacturers and car journalists make a whore out of logic and its annoying. In this case, the head of AM himself was spitting this F1 pace nonsese in every interview with people from TG and such amplifying that shit in every article, like they should not have know better. Its just ridiculous for anyonw who knows anything about autoracing or car technology in general.

[@dhanu_4539]

@@jurandspychow3766 the engine is definitely on par with an F1 engine. not in terms of raw numbers but it's the bleeding edge of what a road car engine can handle. I won't be surprised if a few of them start blowing up .

[@chucknorris99111]

Valkyrie AMR Pro with Slicks is a lot faster than the normal Valkyrie

[@DonLee1980]

Well, the slowest F1 cars in 2014 would lap about 1:40 in the dusty practice sessions, similar to what they have here. The Valkyrie of course doesnt' stand a chance but the valkyrie amr pro might be able to get in the 1:4X

[@mariomuller9320]

Jetzt will ich eine Nordschleifenzeit sehen.Den AMG One wird er wohl packen.Alleine schon vom Gewicht her.Der AMG ist einfach zu schwer geraten.

[@red-bullred-bull3789]

Der ist locker 20s schneller auf der Nordschleife als der ONE.

[@visionmodernclassics3062]

Die große Frage ist: Wurde der Aston Martin Valkyrie weltweit homolgiert? (gemäß SAE, ECE, GB/T Standards) Der AMG One erfüllt alle weltweit gültigen Zulassungsnormen. Wenn Aston Martin beim Valkyrie auf Einzel oder Sonderabnahmen gesetzt hat werden hier Äpfel mit Birnen verglichen. Alleine die Einhaltung der weltweiten Abgas und Geräuschemissionen sind für ein Supersportler ohne Einbußen in der Motorleistung (erhöhter Abgasgegendruck durch OPF, Katalisatoren etc) nicht zu erzielen. Die erbrachte Ingenieuresleistung von AMG ist gerade vor diesen Hintergrund unvorstellbar. Aber wie so oft im Leben: es geht nur um höher schneller weiter, unter welchen Rahmenbedingungen dies erreicht wird ist für den Großteil der Menschen zweitrangig da dadurch die Komplexität stark ansteigt.

[@visionmodernclassics3062]

„ADRs kill off Aston Martin Valkyrie for Australia Aston’s hypercar won’t make it to local shores due to design rules“ 😂

[@visionmodernclassics3062]

Imagine an AMG One has not to meet with all the Emission and noice requirements…that power output of the ICE would be much higher….

[@maxkrueger4199]

Und trotzdem hat der AMG One keine allgemeine Zulassung in den USA. Dieses Fanboy denken ist echt zum kotzen, Hauptsache das andere Fahrzeug schlecht machen. Wir sollten uns eher freuen das sowohl der One als auch die Valkyrie es in die Kleinserienproduktion geschafft haben. Beide haben ihre Vorzüge, der One eher im „Alltag“ durch leichteren Einstieg, Übersichtlichkeit und mehr Komfort. Dafür sollte die Valkyrie jedoch auf der Rennstrecke ein wenig mehr Performance bieten können. Beides Meisterleistungen.

[@jayrap94]

On par with a GTE car while being completely road legal!

[@conrad9race1]

Remember they marketed is as F1 for road. Now is 30s slower than F1💀Even if we compare to slowest F1 in race pace (mclaren Piastri) and assume AMR pro optimisticly take 10s out of regular Valkyrie time its still 10s behind. Its basicly is GT3 pace and cornering, slightly faster on strights

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

Both have to be set up to be drivable by your average punter. Nico said, with a different set-up you can take a lot of time out of the cars but they still won't touch F1. No surprise with the inferior budget, chassis and powertrain.

[@dhanu_4539]

@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks inferior powertrain? are you nuts, f1 engines needs to be preheated and only last 2 or 3 races this thing can do 100k and still revs to 11k. it's a bloody masterpiece. not to mention the budget since they are selling about 200 cars they'll make a profit but this thing took 5 or 6 years to develop compared to the 1 to 2 years of an F1 car. but yes the lap times are pretty disappointing when you consider all the restrictions the F1 cars have to deal with.

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

@@dhanu_4539 Fair, I hadn't factored that. I was just thinking of the torque. They can make them faster according to the test drivers but during these times the car was too difficult to be driven by normal people and impossible to drive on the road, so they had to change the set up which pegged them back significantly.

[@VollstandigErleuchtung]

​@@dhanu_4539it is still an inferior power train if it wasn't these engines would be in f1 right... If ur comparing longevity on the (road) with some track days through the year... The engine isn't getting pushed nearly as hard as a f1 engine and if it gets pushed its only for a short period... If u were to push these engines like swapping it to an f1 car it's not going to perform as well and it's going to give alot of problems because the forces the engine will need to withstand... It's still like u said a masterpiece but comparing it to an f1 engine, gt3, gte, lmpx etc isn't going to work because they are race cars being compared to a road car... Btw f1 teams has millions spent on R&D and the best of the best engineers and mechanics on standby... I'm not an engineer or mechanic but i think what i said is accurate... I don't want to undermine the valkyrie engine... But it just felt like u undermining f1 engines which is what the valkyrie took inspiration from

[@VollstandigErleuchtung]

The amr pro will be faster maybe like +-5secs at least but yeah on Assetto corsa the car is so ridiculously fast and people keep hyping it up as f1 level... It really annoyed me to see that because i knew its not gonna be close in real world

[@grimm6jack]

This guy isn't anywhere even close to pushing the car... Even on road tyres, it easily has 3 or 4 seconds on this lap. With slicks, it would be faster than anything aside from F1, F2, SF, LMP1 and LMH.

[@jeffery7281]

I almost laugh at the first turn. Even in my dad's Atlas I won't break so early... Plenty of rooms obviously.

[@Calibra95]

Next year, the LMH version should be racing there.

[@fullsendsimracing]

There's like 2 seconds at least left in this lap, even more if you give it to Alonso. Crazy machine

[@gabrielsebastian8444]

Not 2 seconds. And don't compare this to f1. Cars like this cant take f1 racing lines my man

[@fullsendsimracing]

@@gabrielsebastian8444 there are certainly 2 seconds in there if it gets pushed to the limit, this was quite below it. And i dont know where you saw me comparing it to F1, I'm saying if an F1 driver gets this car for a proper all-out lap it can improve substantially on this time

[@fullsendsimracing]

​@@gabrielsebastian8444 just through T1 to T6-7 there's 2 seoncsa on the straight and under braking

[@hennessyfaust]

just shows, how fast f1 cars really are... f1 does it in 1:27 something??? 40 seconds is a fckn galaxy of a difference...

[@muldix]

Insane stuff guys!!!

[@tomhausner3639]

That wasn’t looking so fast, I think the car could go much faster

[@R_Nedza]

Indeed, it didn't strike me as a real push lap..

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

It's really traction limited on these tyres. The car is using active dynamics and traction control to bleed downforce out of the car so the tyres don't explode from under it. I feel like the only way you get more performance is with better tyres and a different set up adjustment on the TC, aero and suspension mapping. The biggest limiter is the tyres. AM should have gone for something bespoke like Mercedes did with the AMG One but it seems like Michelin is already really close to the limits of what they can provide and Aston was already running out of money.

[@stefanroseEP3]

Doesnt seem like the aero is doin a great deal, or bein ultilised very well. it's pulling the same lateral G basically around every corner at every speed which shouldn't be the case for a car that produces this much aero. Assume the driver needed a lot more laps to get properly up to speed, car would probably go sub 2 minutes with more practice

[@srinitaaigaura]

I think the tires really cannot cope with it. The AMR Pro on slicks would be in a different speed league.

[@Rtd21974]

Lets do Nürburgring that would be great beating the AMG one

[@gtiak274]

Sound wie damals die Formel 1😍

[@scherzobenhaadi]

Dachte ich auch gleich, herrlich ❤

[@Fester_]

Long long waits to get back on the throttle. Nice driving.

[@rainerknuth]

Ein Auto das leider sehr oft in Museen verstauben wird. Absolut begehrlich und ist den Preis einfach wert gegenüber den AMG One gesehen.

[@cib2413]

That car looked like it had more in it. Did you use the ERS on the straight as well? The AMR Pro must be over 10 seconds quicker.

[@timbluelife9130]

F1 Quali time 1:30... Damn Is that fast

[@pierrena3420]

Da ist mehr drin. Viel mehr drin.

[@habnupfen]

Geil gefahren, geiles Video, geile Karre! Ich kann's nicht anders sagen...

[@alexmykim5354]

Very Nice car I think uts not the track who can put the True potencial of this monster.Imagine this bad boy on Spa or Suzuka🔥.

[@kingwillbisthebest]

Pedro De La Rosa went around this circuit in the year 2005 in an F1 car in 1.31mins.

[@akiali2632]

Go to spa n find the limit on corners with atleast semi slicks at right temperature n then hit that circuit like ur life depends on it. This car can go faster. It wasnt on the edge of sliding at any point here which is where it shud be. Tires shud squeal on corners shudn it?

[@Sharkcc]

yea dude cant push the car for shit

[@titaniummechanism3214]

Da muss aber noch mal wer nachlegen, da wären bestimmt noch ein paar Sekunden an der einen oder anderen Stelle drin gewesen. Trotzdem eine tolle Gelegenheit, die meisten von den Dingern werden vielleicht niemals so hart gefahren ;)

[@annonymously331]

Is there going to be a Nürburgring lap?

[@einautofan6685]

Wenn interessiert der Streckenrekord in Bahrain?😝 Der Gerät muss auf die Nordschleife, und den AMG One verblasen!!!😉😎

[@lovelehstuff]

F1 really is in another league that's a 30 second gal between max verstappen and the Valkyrie

[@Shadowed007]

A better comparison would be Valkyrie AMR Pro which uses slicks vs F1. But i would like to see this car's Nurburging time, definitely a lot quicker than the Mercedes AMG One.

[@lovelehstuff]

@@Shadowed007 the AMG one did it's lap on a wet nordschleife plus they both still maintain their weight difference of 200kg given this weighs 1270kg dry and the one weighs 1,690kg with fluids and the Valkyrie from the goodwoosld videos and top gear videos with road legal tyres is really snappy and then get collector said they have similar braking points so that should give u an idea of the AMGs underrated downforce too

[@Isdera1985]

You are compareing an amateur driver with one of the best formula one drivers in History!

[@lovelehstuff]

@@Isdera1985 still even a pro driver wound get max 1-2 seconds out of it remember Chris Harris was only a second slower than lando Norris in a 765lt the performance ceiling for road cars is much lower than that for race cars

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

Shouldn't be surprising. The development budget (and by virtue tech) going into an F1 car is several times that of the Valkyrie and the Valkyrie has to be set up to be driven by normal people. Remember, the AMR Pro is basically a derestricted LMH prototype but yet because of the for dummies set up, according to the test pilots, it still ends up being slower than an LMH prototype after BOP. Hulk did say, there's more performance when the stabilisers set-up is removed.

[@mryfw]

Mostly lap record attempts they turn on air cond or off? The wiper water empty out?

[@RicardoRivera-xt5ni]

air con off, low fuel, no additional fluids

[@HK-tk5mk]

Krankes Teil! 💪👍😊

[@nahcurtis]

That’s a crazy laptime!

[@Q_82]

Naja, ich versteh halt nicht wie man das "versauen" kann. Erst überfährt er die Reifen, so das sie nie wirklich im richtigen Temp Fenster sind. Dann fährt er im 3. Sektor so langsam, dass er gut und gerne alleine da schon 2 Sekunden liegen lassen hat, weil er so die Dynamik in der Kurve verloren hat. Zum Vergleich zum Evo sollte man allerdings noch anmerken, dass dieser auf Slicks unterwegs war...

[@scherzobenhaadi]

Deiner Meinung. Aber dem Gehacke dieses Herrn ist generell sowieso nur schwer zuzusehen 😁

[@Markusgebvor]

Profirennfahrer auf KZbin?

[@ThomasHager]

Super Video und geniales Auto! Aber ein Formel1 is auf den 5,4km nochmal ne halbe Minute schneller 🙈 Wahnsinn!

[@jurgenwerner8404]

Ich würde sagen mit Max am Steuer und slicks sind nochmal 4-5 Sekunden drin zumal ich auch glaube, dass der Testfahrer von Sport Auto nicht am Limit gefahren ist. Bei der Formel 1 ist das aber der Fall 😀

[@Q_82]

Naja, ich versteh jetzt die Logik von deinem Satz nicht. Logisch ist ein Formel 1 Auto schneller? Hat aber weder ne Strassenzulassung noch fährt man das Ding so easy auf dem Track.

[@mathieucossette9019]

Come on guys... put an infographic at the end to compare lap times! A fan from Québec Canada 🇨🇦

[@SportautoDe]

McLaren 688HS 2.12.1 min (Production car record Bahrain so far); Ferrari FXX K Evo 2.02.03 min (with slicks, not road legal), McLaren Senna GTR 2.05.04 min (with slicks, not road legal). Source: fastestlaps.com/tracks/bahrain-international-circuit

[@mathieucossette9019]

@@SportautoDe thanks for the update :)

[@aabv2658]

Lap Record? Hört und sieht aus wie mit Angezogener Handbremse 🤔😑

[@on_wheels_80]

Only 1.3g lateral at 150 kph with Cup 2 R? 1.8g on the brakes at 300 kph?

[@christofhuttemeister7823]

Bei der Rundenzeit 12.6 sind lateral G Kräfte von 1.8 ersichtlich. In der Einführungsrunde ist die Höchstgeschwindigkeit 330 kmh.ohne DRS! (Zum Vergleich auf der schnellen Runde 302 kmh) Wäre interessant ob die Runde im Track bzw Urbanmode absolviert wurde.. Ich glaube Christian Gebhardt ist absichtlich nicht allerletzte Rille gefahren (Vmax. Brems- und Schaltpunkte, Curbs und DRS Funktion. Sind sicherlich noch einige Sekunden drin..

[@jurgenwerner8404]

@@christofhuttemeister7823 ja leider kann man nicht viel anfangen mit der Rundenzeit 😢

[@stefanroseEP3]

Piss poor isn't it, I think it's more driver familiarity with both the car and the track tbh. We need to see it lap with Alonso at the wheel

[@on_wheels_80]

Might just be sand on the track. With that amount of downforce and those tyres (basically cut slicks) I'd expect 2g tbh.

[@stefanroseEP3]

@@on_wheels_80 managed 1.8 on the brakes so I wouldn't use sand as the reason. Driver confidence is the most likely issue. Not enough seat time

[@PabloMontana-bk8lk]

Wenn man bedenkt, es handelt sich hierbei um die Strassenversion, und hat Ferraris creme de la chrome geschlagen der nicht mal für die Strasse erlaubt ist. Was wohl der Valkyrie amr pro für eine zeit fährt.

[@MarMPB]

Congratulations! Any chance of an attempt with the track only Valkyrie AMR PRO with slicks?

[@ERTZZTRE]

330 km/h - so schnell war sonst keiner...

[@KompressorV6]

People expecting this off the shelf street legal super car to be dialed in like professional/manufacturer race cars is kinda funny. It's obvious they had to make it able to run on the street lmao. Sure if you took some legit race teams and tinkered with the car, put legit racing rubber on it, yeah I'm sure they could make this a rocket on the track, but remember it's still production car that has to be streetable.

[@mateokovac2642]

Exactly. I noticed that 95% of people commenting on carvideos on KZbin are either children or completely clueless about cars.

[@foghazy2198]

It really can’t be moving around the streets tho, they couldn’t even take it to the Nurb cuz it’s “bumpy”..great race car for sure but road legal? It is legal but that’s just about it

[@aceofaces1506]

@@foghazy2198well duh? I think it’s pretty obvious a car like this isn’t meant to be comfortable. Think of this more like an existing race car converted for road use than a car designed to be comfortable on the road, because that’s basically what it is Also ofc they won’t take it to the ring, most of its downforce comes from its ground effect meaning it needs flat and smooth surfaces. A bumpy track like the Nurburgring would make this car a bit slower

[@foghazy2198]

@@aceofaces1506 so you’re basically agreeing with every single thing I said but in a disagreeing format? That’s what I said, it’s a bad road car and not even that great of a race car in my opinion. Good luck with all that down force on smooth surfaces knowing damn well you only got 900Nm of torque..

[@aceofaces1506]

@@foghazy2198 “not even that great of a race car” my guy you’re looking at a road legal production car that’s faster than 1. Modern gt3 cars (which are absolutely off the rails fast) 2. The track only senna gtr 3. The track only FXXK EVO And this car is road legal. What’s this about not being a “good race car?💀” Also I said that because the way you came off made it sound like you’re saying the car is bad just because it’s not comfortable on the roads, but that’s not what it was really made for so I don’t get your point 😭

[@Earl_VTEC]

so ein ein schöner Apparat! Gruß aus dem Honda Lager #NSXGT3Evo #NSXTypeS #TypeR #TLXTypeS

[@flavourinyourear]

4.7.-5.0 100-200, sollte doch eigentlich locker unter 4 gehen mit der Leistung?

[@963robo]

hat bei der Geschwindigkeit enorm viel Abtrieb, das bremst natürlich

[@wololo10]

Agreed

[@7ludi]

scheint ziemlich lang übersetzt zu sein

[@wololo10]

@@963robo 100-200 downforce doesnt generate too much drag

[@Q_82]

@@wololo10 Sagt wer? Physik gehabt? ab 70 km/h, wird die Aerodynamische Stirnfläche nicht LINEAR grösser. Ein Formel 1 liefert ab 70 km/h schon einen deutlichen abtrieb.. Halte mal bei 200 km/h bitte mal die Hand aus dem Fenster..

[@Weirdnamed]

Everyone be complaining "he ain't driving it quick enough" or "GT3RS just as quick", have you driven this car? Have you had any racing experience? Besides it's quicker than road cars that wore slicks unlike this which had road legal tyres. Comprehend that

[@foghazy2198]

This car got stiff suspension and low mechanical stability just to get some more downforce so don’t talk about the road legal part cuz it’s a terrible road car…

[@rinjel2890]

​@@foghazy2198road legal is not about being a good roadcar

[@foghazy2198]

@@rinjel2890 they didn’t want to test it on the Nurb cuz it’s “too bumpy”..that’s a TRACK

[@Rezcuz]

What road cars on slicks?

[@gabrielbarcellos1036]

Só de pensar que ele é rápido assim e ainda ruge um V12, absurdo

[@SS454LS6]

is the Valkyrie's speedo way off? Shows 330 kph on the steering wheel, and about 302 kph through data acquisition on the record lap. That's an enormous difference.

[@AP13P]

No boost used.

[@annonymously331]

So in road spec, about as fast as a gt3 car in the corners and GTE speeds in the straights. Definitely could have gotten sub 2 minutes

[@u.e.u.e.]

Aus welchem Material ist die Windschutzscheibe?

[@Ferrari333SP]

He was not pushing the car at all; he probably left a good 10 seconds out on the track.

[@davidaugustofc2574]

10 is absolute bs dude

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

Lol. There's maybe 3-4 seconds left with fumes and warm tyres. 10 seconds is silly talk. The tyres will not take much more.

[@Lanse1984]

So this thing on slicks is LMP2 speeds

[@MrYoumitube]

I was expecting a little better like it's almost 30 seconds slower per lap over an F1 car. I think 1:45-1:48 on slicks GTR and maybe a 1:55 for the standard on slicks.

[@iSchrott3G]

It's significantly slower than an F1 car in absolute terms, but consider: The Aston is road legal! You can literally drive your auntie Berta to her hairdresser with this car (not that you want to...). Plus: Christian had very little time to accustom himself to this monster, there is definitely some potential. Edit: Spelling mistakes.

[@beastofackworth]

Did you really expect it to be anywhere near an F1 car?

[@broshido2745]

My brother, you can’t compare f1 to a ROAD legal car, what the fuck is this comment section

[@aceofaces1506]

its a street legal road car.....

[@ToyotaCorolla-qs7ml]

I dont think you understand just how absolutely ridiculously fast an f1 car is. To even be under a minute a lap is something but half a minute? Thats insane.

[@srinitaaigaura]

I wonder what the AMR Pro would do here.

[@SS454LS6]

I read it's supposedly not that far off LMP times. So I'd say under 1:50.

[@betofernandez5524]

@@SS454LS6 Aparently it has a lap arround 1.55, but I don't think is the maximun. It's the same for street car. That 2.01 is far from ideal lap.

[@SS454LS6]

@@betofernandez5524 We can assume the street car can go faster, but so far 2:01.01 is as fast as it has gone. Many journalists/drivers had their go, and this is the best so far. Hopefully we see someone publish an actual time for the AMR Pro.

[@jurgenwerner8404]

Wurde auf der Geraden überhaupt das DRS und der Elektromotor genutzt bei der schnellen Runde? Das Auto müsste mehr als 304 Km/h auf der Geraden schaffen.

[@Euromasterrace5000]

Der E Motor bringt obenraus eh nix

[@gt-r9035]

Gercollector sagt in seinem Vid nach 2 Runden hätte die ecu die 1/min auf 10k reduziert. Evtl. hier auch.

[@ShionShinigami]

da sind aber noch locker 10 Sekunden drin...

[@elpatolucas22]

30 segundos mas lento que la pole de F1 en 2023 por verstappen

[@DonLee1980]

I don't get it, so the car easily hit 330kph (speedo) during the daytime, but when you did the fast lap, it only hit 300 (i presume GPS speed) at the end of the straight?

[@mikemoggerson6651]

The speedo is very optimistic. Also, maybe he was using hybrid boost during the day session

[@GAbriezzzzz]

He was not pushing. Not the idel tyres, not the idel engine - suspension setup

[@DonLee1980]

@@GAbriezzzzz Not the ideal tyres?? They are Cup 2R tyres.

[@GAbriezzzzz]

@@DonLee1980 they're not slicks

[@DonLee1980]

@@GAbriezzzzz yeah it's a road legal car. of course you use road legal tires. duh.

[@kacperk2k]

So something that supposed to be comparable to F1 cars, then F2 cars is slower than GT3 in reality.

[@joat9105]

100% facts

[@davidntervisai5294]

The secret is in the tires brother, not the car, just the rubber

[@michaeld.uchiha9084]

It had no Slicks thats easy less 10 seconds.

[@kacperk2k]

@@michaeld.uchiha9084 If that's so easy why didn't they test track version with slicks? I'm sure it would be better for them to show it if this car was capable to do that kind of lap times (close to F2).

[@aventusV33]

It's a road car 💀 how do you expect it to beat purpose built racecars? The AMR Pro will be much more demonstrative of what the car is.

[@tarifasmanos]

f1 is 31 seconds faster... insane

[@edensseven3524]

Must be a lovely car to drive.

[@danielfirpo8016]

I knew I would be impressed by the acceleration and maneuverability. Until i saw this 2:21 / 2:26.

[@davidgt5004]

F1 2022 Carlos Sains Ferrari Bahrein 01minutos:30segundos ..01:30

[@TheSheepwool1]

2:11

[@trackfocussed9810]

Macht nur mich dieses ultra langsame Getriebe agressiv? Also dass das kein Handschalter ist, ist auch das einzige 😂

[@Euromasterrace5000]

Ja

[@testaccount07]

Ringzeiten wären interessant, alles andere ist zwar nett, aber aufm Ring gelten andere Regeln :D

[@christopheroconnor4665]

I love how people think this won't obliterate the Merc hypercar. The Valkyrie is in another league

[@lukasherazadishvili516]

Funny how racing lines are so much different for a car so similar to a f1 car

[@beastofackworth]

It's not really at all similar to an F1 car

[@jagger6352]

weiss wer was andere autos hier fahren…senna oder so?

[@mightywoll3]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqKUeoGfe6qehbs

[@SportautoDe]

2:12.1 - McLaren 688HS (mit Straßenzulassung); Ferrari FXX K Evo @2.02.03 sec, Senna GTR @2.05.04 sec (beide ohne Straßenzulassung und mit Slicks)

[@seangray4512]

Sounds like a Ducati V-twin

[@stormapex7014]

put nico hulkenberg in the car,he'll probably go 15 seconds faster.

[@Rezcuz]

Can't tell if this is a joke

[@stormapex7014]

@@Rezcuz it isnt.

[@Rezcuz]

@@stormapex7014 Certainly should be.

[@stormapex7014]

@@Rezcuz thanks for these constructive replies,really helps me a lot in understanding the situation. Have a good day pal.

[@Rezcuz]

@@stormapex7014 Not my problem you can't accept that you're wrong, but have a good day too.

[@antol2005]

Interessant wäre im Vergleich der AMR Pro. Ich glaube, er ist deutlich schneller weil er kaum Kompromisse macht. Und der AMG ONE so: Ciao, ich muss mal weg 😮

[@ObieStill27]

jo also im gegensatz dazu sieht der amg one vom konzept her echt nich so geil aus. ok cool hat nen f1 motor, aber halt generation staubsauger. da hätte ich persönlich lieber nen hochdrehenden 12 zyl. aber jut, für mich kommt eh finanziell weder der eine, noch der andere infrage :D

[@antol2005]

@@ObieStill27 Sehe ich genauso. Wie sie alle immer hervorheben und positiv betonen, der ONE habe ja „einen F1 Motor“ verbaut. Na und? Das ist ein 1,6L Kindergartenmotor. Und wenn die F1 nun allen Fahrern neongrüne Socken diktiert, sind das dann die non plus ultra Socken der Welt die jeder braucht, nur weil sie von der F1 kommen? 🙄

[@ObieStill27]

@@antol2005 :D das sockenbeispiel gefällt mir

[@haseigel7021]

Es macht keinen Sinn track-only Autos mit straßenzugelassenen Wagen zu vergleichen. Den AMR kannst du mit dem Porsche 919 oder dem Bugatti Bolide vergleichen.

[@Karacho81]

Sound innen wie ein Motorrad von KTM oder Ducati , außen F1

[@ionutortian5885]

Wow

[@CJ-vw1fn]

Da geht einiges mehr mit den Auto... extrem früh auf der Bremse, so früh das der Fahrer mehrmals die Bremse gelöst hat und wieder aufgebaut hat

[@red-bullred-bull3789]

Ein Formel-1 Fahrer würde 7-8s schneller sein.

[@lorenzopegoraro1991]

Man the downshift are too late, it needs to be keep higher revs… moreover the minimum speed of each corner can be way higher . Bad driver , not a PRO for sure

[@stanverheyden9459]

U tell em

[@agustinseguy]

Too little g's for what they promissed 🤔

[@andresnils9776]

Depends on the racetrack, no fast corners here…for high g-force you need your aerodynamics

[@stefanroseEP3]

​@@andresnils9776 160kph is plenty to get the aero working, and in the fastest turn he pulled the lowest G lol so there's plenty more in it with more practice

[@yarisTSk]

lieblich.