Venus Was NEVER An Ocean World…And More. (This Week In Space)

[@ChippiesNoSalsa]

Simon could read the Dow Report in a KZbin video and I’d still watch, perfect inflection and delivery as always

[@cameronmadden8723]

Dont give him ideas now

[@murdelabop]

With the exception of consistently mispronouncing at least one important word in each episode.

[@sdupont79]

Aaaaand here comes another channel

[@thespicemelange.1]

You seriously need to get a life

[@peterkirby1753]

DowBlaze 🤔

[@ConXfire]

Celestium is my favourite of the Whistler-verse channels. Keep 'em coming.

[@JohnSmith-bv1jg]

WCU!

[@kevinmcqueenie7420]

I quite like these weekly updates, and if they help the channel grow so you can put out more in-depth videos, then I'll keep watching!

[@goosenotmaverick1156]

I'm digging these. If we get some of these with some in depth stuff mixed in, I'm also here for it.

[@--enyo--]

I guess taking inspiration from Warographics’ ‘Situation Room’.

[@TBJ1118]

Posting to boost for the algorithm. Thanks FactBoy

[@arche2460]

Commenting to boost the algorithm bc I don't want this segment to go away! I love hearing about space news, and Simon is one of the few I can watch without my attention drifting so far I stop processing the information

[@--enyo--]

It’s a good idea.

[@Enjoymentboy]

If you bought a brand new TV in 1977 there's a decent chance it is still working reasonably well today. You might just have to smack it a few times to get the vertical hold steady. So it doesn't really shock me that voyager is still working. Now, seeing the quality of modern TVs I wouldn't bet a spoon of toenail clippings that if voyager was built and launched today that it would make it longer than a week after the warranty expired.

[@nutgone100]

It’s mad that its transmitter is just 22watts

[@TipsyCatamaran]

So for weekly ongoing world updates in the Whistlerverse, we've got: "This Week in Space" on Celestium, "Florida Man Friday" on Brain Blaze, and "The Situation Room" on Warfronts. Are we going to get a weekly list of horrific crimes from around the world on Casual Criminalist next? Or would that ruin Simon's day too much? : P

[@--enyo--]

I don’t know about weekly, but an annual ‘updates’ episode for both channels would be good. Like any new developments with any of the cases covered previously.

[@TipsyCatamaran]

@--enyo-- I mean, I was kind of kidding tbh, but an episode of periodic updates about cases that have new developments would be awesome!

[@NismoXero]

SpaceX starship is already part of Artemis. It's the HLS lander. If SLS was cancelled the only thing that would need replaced is the ride to the HLS. There are multiple different options to either still use the Orion or switch to dragon.

[@ignitionfrn2223]

0:00 - Chapter 1 - A huge disapointement from venus ? 8:25 - Chapter 2 - Voyager 1 is back 13:50 - Chapter 3 - Will trump cancel SLS ?

[@turtleboy4111]

Thank you, Simon and team! Love your work!

[@PaulZyCZ]

8:00 - Not only Da Vinci, in 2025 Caltech is sending Venus Life Finder (if I remember right) probe to Venus. It's small probe, launched on Rocket Lab Electron, but it will check Venus atmosphere from up close. It's also interesting from the point of rockets getting cheaper and probes getting more efficient, than in the past. There's a place for large probes (which are getting more sofisticated and robust), but various tasks can be done by smaller probes for less.

[@pseudotasuki]

There's a good chance the SLS replacement wont be entirely from SpaceX. The leading contender is thiught to be a variant of the so-called "Bridenstack": a Falcon Heavy carrying Orion and a Centaur upper stage.

[@anderspaulsson]

Atleast we can still count on Uranus 😮

[@jwagner4050]

Even the SLS's massively overbudget launch tower isn't ready and won't BE ready. The video seems to imply it is expensive but otherwise ready for Artemis II (much less III) ... it isn't. Starship isn't ready either, yet, but at a planned 20+ launches next year, at least it looks like it will be, despite the delays to date. And it is cheaper and faster to launch even a dozen expendable Starships then a single SLS.

[@mikeguilmette776]

Simon missed a key point about returning to the moon - do we even need to go back? Sure, China, Russia or India may get there, but are they really going to get anything out of it?

[@Methazar]

​@@mikeguilmette776 it's alot easier to get further from the moon, if launching from the moon (less gravity). Also for telescopes etc it would be a better location (less light and background noise).

[@mylt1z28]

@@mikeguilmette776 A moon base would be the launch site for every other mission. So yes, we would need to go back.

[@mikeguilmette776]

@@mylt1z28 But do we really need "every other mission?" I used to be all about space colonization, but the older I get, I've realized that humanity isn't serious about it, given the glacial pace we've pursued it, there's little value for manned space missions when robots can do the job, and frankly, space is way too vast and dangerous to be worth the expense.

[@michaelb1761]

@@mikeguilmette776 The moon isn't just a great location to launch additional space missions from, it could also be a good location to launch missiles from back towards earth.

[@JohnSmith-bv1jg]

Goddamnit Simon, I can't keep them all straight when you start renaming and coming out with new channels lol Maybe add a little WCU for whistler channel universe, and it'd be a little more obvious! Although, admittedly the "formerly astrographics" saved me here in this case luckily lol

[@slabrankle9588]

No good news ever comes out of Venus.

[@richardjameskemp911]

And be wary of what comes out of Uranus.

[@loki3292]

That's to prepare us for no good news coming from Mars.

[@prkr_ae]

didn't know we could lose a space race we won so long ago... wild

[@mpeap74]

Space is big, and I can't keep an eye on all of it. This Week in Space keeps me informed, keep 'em coming.

[@riverkeyes3455]

I forgot this channel switched names, gonna have to turn those notifications on

[@Turbo495]

Love this series, thank you guys!

[@keithwaggoner2375]

if they could bring back 1 of the Voyager probes back to earth then they should.

[@Telthar]

Sort of not surprised on SLS being potentially cut... while people were "dunking" on Musk for rocket failures I knew that NASA's attempt was way, way behind where SpaceX was. Really big rockets are really, really hard to get to work. This isn't Musk cheerleading but rather pointing at the ignorance of the general public as to what NASA is working on and where they are at with a similar project.

[@brianrockwood2018]

SLS was cut because of the people we voted into office. Musk is wildly rich, yes...but if we put just 2 percent of taxpayer money towards NASA we'll land humans on mars within 5-6 years.

[@Telthar]

@@brianrockwood2018 The SLS has been plagued with problems and concerns since its inception. It was accused way back of being a project more about preserving jobs than a practical system. The project is way behind schedule and way, way over budget already. This isn't a new thing and has little to do with the most recent election. It *is* political to try and say there is nothing wrong with the project and it is only because Trump that it would be cancelled. You would have to have been living under a rock when it comes to the SLS to come to this conclusion.

[@brianrockwood2018]

@Telthar You completely missed the point I was trying to make. My point is that NASA is very VERY underfunded. We support our military industrial complex 1000x more than NASA. One guy with 200 billion dollars can't compete with nations like China who are dumping MORE than that into their space programs every year. I don't mind private businesses getting involved in space exploration but let's be honest, they'll never be able to compete against government funded programs when said governments put their minds to funding projects. Right now NASA's budget is around 18 billion a year which is half a penny of every dollar an American citizen is taxed, so .05 percent. When we went to the moon it was 2% of every dollar taxed.

[@Telthar]

@@brianrockwood2018 what does this have to do with the project being way over budget? I don't disagree that NASA is underfunded, but someone screwed up royally to have the SLS be more than double the budget now, that is a horrible miscalculation. Also, this is not limited to GOP or Dem. A Republican saved the Europa mission, for instance. My comments related to the SLS are specific to this project, it has spiraled out of control with not much success to show for it. This one project is a problem, not all of NASA

[@brianrockwood2018]

@@Telthar Elon musk doesn't have the money to do anything near what NASA can do... how is that so hard for you to understand?

[@sdupont79]

Mars cannot support human life now nor in the future without an atmosphere

[@MrEnjoivolcom1]

And it doesn't have the internal mass nor magnetic field to hold on to said atmosphere.

[@trayolphia5756]

My honest feedback for these videos - I enjoy BOTH the weekly space news type updates AND the more in depth topical videos As such - my suggestion is to do a slightly longer video with news highlights every 3rd or 4th week, with other weeks having the more specific topic focus? Maybe a fortnightly cycle if topics get too dried up?

[@Shanghaimartin]

Chapters plz

[@infernotyphoon]

No

[@Shanghaimartin]

@@infernotyphoon Yes

[@theemissary1313]

The fact that a department for eliminating government waste has been given to two people is just poetically ridiculous.

[@murdelabop]

Especially the two people who will be in charge of it. Fortunately, they will have no actual power.

[@vincentmorello-is4gt]

​@murdelabop honestly I think Elon helping financially is a big pivoting point in American politics and hopefully he makes us look less like the cavemen the world views us as

[@PhilBertran]

V'ger will be fine

[@bogbupog]

3:09 whose idea was it to use the top secret thing

[@SplotchTheCatThing]

Well, oceans of magma are a *kind* of oceans...

[@garyclark3843]

It figures there would be no Muskrat love for NASA

[@basbekjenl]

I do like the idea of terraforming Venus, cooling it by deploying a shade, using a magnifying glass to burn parts of the surface that need to be burned flat. It wouldn't be that difficult but it would take centuries.

[@crissywilson5147]

At 19.32 your hand fades into the desk are you even real!

[@Edyime]

Perfect video being uploaded at the perfect time before bed

[@Defectoboy]

It's a shame that Venus is so inhospitable, because it sounds so cool. Maybe that's only because Venera probes explored some of it, but still, it's really cool. In fact, Simon should do a video or series of videos covering landers!

[@DGas-rg1pk]

Looking at the conditions on Venus, I'm impressed anyone ever thought there could have been water in the first place.

[@murdelabop]

RE: SLS. It should have been canceled years ago. It's build on 1970s technology which was expensive then and is ridiculously expensive now. It is a life support system for the aerospace industry, and pork for the federal government. NASA would have been better off developing a clean sheet design than insisting on "Space Shuttle Derived Technology". It's already been eclipsed by Superheavy and the Starship. To continue the development of SLS would be to engage in the sunk cost fallacy.

[@alexswanson7127]

NASA did originally try a clean sheet design, the Venturestar project but couldn't make it work. Going back to proven, well understood space shuttle technology was supposed to guarantee a quick, cheap, development process.

[@Sage5599]

I hope when we become a true space fairing race we find voyager 1 and catch it before it crashes into something so it can be preserved in a museum❤️

[@DS-re4vs]

I had zero idea Simon had this channel, I already subscribe to several and now I find this (which since I love space stuff I immediately subscribed) now I wonder how infinite the amount of his channels are?

[@StarTrek4Life]

We need the DAVINCI probes to go to Venus asap. To return to this hell, and to answer some of these questions.

[@multiyapples]

So Simon runs a contnet farm.

[@Nathan-vt1jz]

I’m torn on SLS, it is a budget boondoggle and way behind schedule, but we’ve already put so much into it. It really is the question of the “sunk cost fallacy”. The falcon heavy is probably the best option to rescue the Artemis program. The mission might have to be done in more steps, but it would be both faster and cheaper. Unfortunately Blue Origin’a New Glen rocket is not yet operational and wouldn’t have the ability to accomplish the mission in its current block. It will probably be competitive with SpaceX’s Falcon 9 and is the other big contender in the future of space launches (along with small launch providers like Rocket Lab). The one upside for Artemis is that Starship development is well underway and should be able to deliver the lander in time. The big hang up was the test launch cadence and the FFA has cleared them for significantly more launch’s this next year. Both the development of Blue Origin’a New Glen and SpaceX’s Starship have been delayed significantly by the slow processing at the FFA and EPA (they have the speed and efficiency of the Department of Licensing…😅). In part it is the increase in the demand for launch licenses, but also due to beuqacratic inefficiencies and over regulation.

[@victoriaeads6126]

Boosting!

[@davidwiggins6679]

Now we know why Musk is loving on Trump.

[@MrTexasDan]

Why is that?

[@davidwiggins6679]

@@MrTexasDan Shut down Artemis and it'll leave a vacuum in America's space program. Musk can step up and get all that sweet, sweet government money.

[@blitzzer24]

The idea of the Voyager Probes being alone in the celestial void is so heartbreaking. I want us to develop far faster travel technologies and go rescue them. They deserve the best of us, having given far more than we could have ever imagined.

[@thecaptainsarse]

They’re not lost puppies. They are monuments to Humanity. They will endure LONG after we are gone. And there is a (small) chance that they will be found . Thus fulfilling Dr. Sagan’s legacy of the entire project. “Rescuing “them and returning them to Earth would doom them to our fate and diminishing THEIR legacy

[@coreyvandyke8778]

How many channels are you on my dude? I just discovered 3 more on top of all that I follow already.

[@justinabernathy6901]

Space must be pretty empty for voyager to have never hit something after this many years.

[@DillaCat]

11:35 *Unforeseen Consequences*

[@gabehallett2625]

Bass during image transitions is no good for car listening, had to click away so as to preserve my cars speakers. Love the videos though just trying to give feedback for max success

[@dominicotis1]

Does this remind anyone else of the Destiny storyline in the aspect of China beat American to the moon and built a secret base.🤔🧐

[@Rachelpinter]

It will be an interesting few years for space. Artemis is due back to the moon in 2 years

[@ScoriacTears]

16:03 Antiquated.

[@LeosResearch]

SLS is ready to go. Star Ship is still in production. Get presence on the moon should be a priority.

[@JonathanMensah-h3n]

Go back to Apollo, Nasa used the same ploy, cancelling certain stages of the development which led to Apollo 8, then testing LM, and after 9&10, Apollo11 landing.

[@CartoonHero1986]

I wonder if this also explains why Venus seems to lack carbonate rock types helping dissolve and trap carbon dioxide and other gases.

[@gabbyn978]

Seeing how inflated the moon landing plans are, I think that a review should really happen. Not a complete stop, but a more humble approach, aiming for a safe and reliable means of transport first, and only then trying to set up a station on the moon.

[@volvo145]

Inhospitable to us yes but maybe silicon-based life for school from there who knows

[@YoutubeBorkedMyOldHandle_why]

I've often thought that the Great American Empire would quietly fade into the night, but it is becoming increasingly clear that this is the way America ends, not with a whimper but with a Bang.

[@stancil83]

I don't know if all the jumping around on screen is necessary to keep our attention but it doesn't bother me I guess. Although I am commenting about it so that's added interest at least.

[@TR1P0DL1F3]

What would happen if a comet were to hit Venus?

[@MrEnjoivolcom1]

That very thick, choking atmosphere would absolutely eat it up, if not bounce it off into the cosmos.

[@stevensmith797]

canceling SLS is to give up the idea of beating the chinese back to the moon , space x isnt close , SLS is

[@josekentucky86]

Is this video choppy for anyone else?

[@DJ-bh1ju]

SLS won't survive the next NASA review..... Starship, Superheavy and Falcon 9 will do the job.

[@laurafortier9295]

Is it not obvious to anyone else? Venus' purpose is to help us know the times and seasons. Not for life...

[@alexorsi4056]

I love all of your videos but what's been going on with the editing here lately seen a buuuunch on mistakes like this time the playback speed is maybe 1.15 % normal

[@KentoLeoDragon]

Oh look another Simon channel. Wait. I'm already subbed. Haven't seen anything from this channel in awhile. The SLS is a financial disaster. Some say it was never intended to work. It's a legacy dinosaur pork barrel project by the usual government and military contractors with open ended forever contracts with unlimited budgets and delays. Let's not forget how Boeing left astronauts stranded in space and it's up to SpaceX to go up and bring them home safely. SpaceX has made incredible advancements in America's space launch capabilities and we are the world's leader. Boeing Lockheed and ULA are very much last century pork barrel corporations than make unlimited billions for taking decades to accomplish nothing.

[@michaelcordes]

that looks like a very nice datejust on your wrist. you're such a pimp!

[@harrydent98]

SLS program: $26bn Starship program: $3bn

[@victoriaeads6126]

21:31 America? Make an unforced error? Never! I mean, not today...oh crap, what did that idiot do now....

[@jennyanydots2389]

Way to go America. You elected a con artist and he brought all his con artist friends... should be a fun show. Real life Jerry Springer Show.

[@djmaximus6275]

Lets face it, Trump is mega friendly with Musk so SLS and Artimus are getting axed and the contract handed to Musk who's pretty much already there

[@odril]

SLS CANNOT BE REPLACED BY STARSHIP, P.S.: It's pronounced "Doggie"

[@mikeguilmette776]

Correction - the SLS program began during the Obama administration.

[@mickeymcdoogle119]

Venus is a new planet to our solar system and is settling down... Not sure how long but. Isn't this how earth started?

[@ianmorris7485]

Artemis will be scrapped, Space X will be contracted to run moon missions on a fixed price contract with the contract being apparoved by Elon Musk. It will fail on the contract that will keep on being regotiated upwards to cover Space X's losses. You don't need to be a clairvoyant to see that happening.

[@saiynoq6745]

My personal thoughts is we are seeing a planet in its birthing stage I feel like even tho Venus is billions of years old it’s stuck in a planet child like state. If we were able to move it to a different orbit it would continue a process similar to what happened to planets in our early solar system

[@Gamefreak924]

Astrographics name change bad. Change back pls

[@mj.ray0898]

I dunno if it was ever explained, but he changed his channel names away from the "-ographics" naming convention (Warographics changed too, pretty sure there were others). My assumption is he doesn't work with whoever started Geographics/Biographics or whatever those channels were called anymore, and now he's distancing his work from theirs 🤷🏼‍♂️ Celestium isn't bad though, better than Warfronts I guess

[@lordMartiya]

Why should we care of Bloomberg's opinion? Is he involved in space travel technology?

[@masonmcswain4347]

Because the US is an oligarchy and billionaires have all the power.

[@paulacrawford5209]

What about us not even being from the Milky Way galaxy to begin with?🎉😂❤

[@BoschhammerActual]

I truly think SLS should have been canceled the very day they landed the falcon heavy for the first time. Probably better off for everyone if it’s canceled and they adopt starship instead

[@aja9469]

Elon bot 😂😅

[@jaycie5021]

So scrap a ship with bugs that has had a successful flight for one that blows up more times than achieving space.

[@BoschhammerActual]

@@jaycie5021 welcome to aerospace buddy, all designs have problems. One of the two is meant to be thrown away after you fix em all 😂 the other is a reusable and reserviceable vehicle like it should be in the first place. Would have been fine if you were saying that years and years ago. The tech is pretty mature now and CLEARLY feasible at scale and in the long term. Single use rocketry is dying a slow death

[@dr4gon166]

yet another video with dodgy sound fella. You need a new editor this is most of your channels that have this issue now!!!!!

[@niceonechief6302]

What’s with this guy and picking worse names for his channels

[@kellscorner1130]

50/50 chance SLS gets canceled……so you don’t know but you’re stating it like it’s some sort of fact? How slimy.

[@jennyanydots2389]

It's a youtube video... not an academic lecture. Calm down.

[@garethde-witt6433]

Trump and his bum chum will kill it

[@biggerminds523]

Even a child can calculate that space x with all extra weight it needs with extra material in construction and fuel for their self landing boosters..are people idiots.

[@JasonFromVermont]

I like this channel because he can’t put any “woke” videos out….