Asus Gaming Laptop Won't power on after applying Liquid metal

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@FG-Supercharged
@FG-Supercharged Жыл бұрын
Wow, that customer was so lucky. Good job team!
@entity9588
@entity9588 Жыл бұрын
Probably won't be lucky for very long. It's an ASUS laptop so a MOSFET will probably go bad within the next 6 months and it will be chillin at the NorthridgeFix shop again
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 Жыл бұрын
this is why don't be a pig if your using conductive thermal paste🤣 yeah liquid metal is like pouring water on the computer's main board
@godslayer1415
@godslayer1415 Жыл бұрын
Customer was stupid as a post.
@socratesg4210
@socratesg4210 Жыл бұрын
Like always, great job. This customer got lucky you were able to clean up that mess and nothing else was damaged.
@caramba10
@caramba10 Жыл бұрын
It would be nice to see some videos of Big Boss disassembling/reassembling laptops with some pointers on the problems he encounters with different makes and models.
@yaratv2000
@yaratv2000 Жыл бұрын
you put a smile on my face everytime you fix a piece even it is not mine. imagine how big that smile on the piece's owner.
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 Жыл бұрын
what's wrong with normal thermal paste? simple normal thermal paste is not electrically conductive like liquid metal that's what's wrong with it
@MrMojolinux
@MrMojolinux Жыл бұрын
Now I see why someone who has already saved his Data from a non working laptop, bothers to send the MB out to be fixed. Of course until the MB got to you, it was a crap shoot to actually fix the board at best. You never cease to amaze me with your enthusiasm, optimism and persistence. Another "fixed" item from Alex@ Northridge Fix!
@skar5424
@skar5424 Жыл бұрын
Incredible. That customer is very lucky. Good work guys
@Dracula.25
@Dracula.25 Жыл бұрын
If Big Boss wear those Jacket the device will work 😂
@taskinyucekurt
@taskinyucekurt Жыл бұрын
For this type of job you have to get a suction pump like the one which dentists are using at work. It does perfect job on liquids and will help you a lot. You can find cheaper ones all arround too..
@maklogetrich2378
@maklogetrich2378 Жыл бұрын
he use it, but not everytime check it
@TheMuffinMan73
@TheMuffinMan73 Жыл бұрын
I think this customer's laptop might've had liquid metal preapplied. My Asus G14 from Best Buy came with liquid metal as stock. Factory liquid metal was one of the reasons I bought this laptop over the competition last year, and after a few months had passed CPU temps were terrible regardless; low boost clocks well under 4 GHz and pegged at 95 C nearly all the time. I took it apart recently to re-paste with some good ole reliable MX4 (I thought they had just used low-quality metal), and lo and behold, only half the CPU still had liquid metal on it and the rest was spilled over the side. There was a rubber "cage" around the CPU, but it wasn't a perfect seal and I had to clean up spillage. In other words, if I hadn't taken it apart to repaste, my laptop was a time bomb waiting to end up in your shop. Almost learned the hard way that liquid metal really isn't practical to be used in everyday machines like these, unless it's done by hand and done by someone who knows damn well what they're doing (and what they're risking). Thank you Alex for showing us these repairs, and what can go wrong with our devices.
@Chocobollz
@Chocobollz Жыл бұрын
I've never understood the reason why people would go with liquid metal.. I mean all that risks for a few degrees cooler or a few (at best 5?) percent more performance? 🤦
@TheMuffinMan73
@TheMuffinMan73 Жыл бұрын
@@Chocobollz In my case, and possibly this customer's as well, the factory applied the liquid metal. If something was shorted as a result of the factory-applied liquid metal, the user is not the one at fault.
@mbwatson1000
@mbwatson1000 Жыл бұрын
@@Chocobollz I agree with you. It makes no sense for real-life applications. The only people that it does make sense for are those who have a single-shot use of a computer with a view to topping the benchmark figures, but don't care about long term use.
@Tomy_Sakazaki
@Tomy_Sakazaki Жыл бұрын
@@Chocobollz I dunno if there are actual trial made with scientific method on actual consumer electronics but what the industry is trying to achieve is a thermal interface that won't get bad temps over the years like occurs with thermal paste when they get totally dry. So the user may just clean fans and heatsink without replacing the thermal interface between the hot components and the cold plate.
@mbwatson1000
@mbwatson1000 Жыл бұрын
I completely agree with you. There is no way that liquid metal should be used in production models for all the reasons you specify. I wonder if the reason your model came with liquid metal was because someone in the suppliers wanted to be able to get really low thermal readings and top performance in their declared specs. The resulting damage is entirely their fault, and you should be entitled to a refund.
@attilapetocz6104
@attilapetocz6104 Жыл бұрын
for the customer was a very lucky day :) another awesome job from northridgefix. thank you and big thumbs up for the big boss, the bos of all bosses. be safe. i really like your videos. i learn a lot from you. you have a very very big experience. but i do not make a sucsess repair on the devices cause i haven't got a thermal cam. i hope i buy it soon, but... it's very expensive. but the hope is big. thank you all of your videos. greetings from Hungary. :)
@NowInAus
@NowInAus Жыл бұрын
Damn that was an exercise in patience. Good job Alex and Big Boss
@middleway1885
@middleway1885 Жыл бұрын
Woooh! Great job! I can't wait for more items to come back in stock... till then, thanks for all that you do... Cheers!
@crashoverride328
@crashoverride328 Жыл бұрын
Board contamination can wreak havoc. Just repaired a Hepa Air Filter with a control system that had gone haywire. Capacitative touch controls we in a state of confusion. Removed and refitted some components to clean under them with isopropyl alcohol. Soldering / desoldering assisted by leaded solder, desolder braid and Amtech 559 - supplied of course by Northridgefix. Result - as expected with supplies from there - better than factory. Always be observant and never rule out contamination as the cause of trouble.
@Stellerex
@Stellerex Жыл бұрын
Dang they dodged bullets like Neo on that one wowie! Great work guys
@SingularityRS
@SingularityRS Жыл бұрын
I just went with the Honeywell PTM7950 phase change pad on my laptop. I had to keep re-applying thermal paste on my laptop after several days/weeks. The paste would all just squeeze out to the sides and resulted in CPU temperatures climbing back up to throttling levels. I went through a handful of pastes. None helped. All started out great and then failed to do the job after several days or weeks. The PTM7950 is the only thing that seems to do the trick. I applied it several months ago and my CPU temperatures are still good. I'd normally see a huge increase by now. PTM7950 seems to be the answer if traditional thermal paste is causing problems.
@kennethlung3371
@kennethlung3371 Жыл бұрын
Great vids, as usual. I am curious.....would an ultrasound cleaner work for cleaning the liquid metal off the board?
@Deschit
@Deschit Жыл бұрын
cannot stress enough how careful you have to be using liquid metal. even with 2 decades of build experience, it still makes me nervous as hell; at least arctic silver 5 was a thick paste and could be carefully controlled... it's called liquid because that's how it behaves
@blazetechstuff
@blazetechstuff Жыл бұрын
i think people apply it like you would thermal paste. it isnt meant to be squished out the sides.
@volvo09
@volvo09 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately reality isn't shared much with just how careful you have to be, and how LITTLE you are to use. The squeeze out will stay on the edge of the CPU until it is bumped sideways and do just that.
@vaidkun
@vaidkun Жыл бұрын
the more important point is that arctic silver 5 is not electrically conductive and liquid metal is electrically conductive that causes shorts and different consistency is secondary effect that makes it bad as it runs everywhere.
@Deschit
@Deschit Жыл бұрын
@@blazetechstuff yea the amount spilled out is easily 2-3x the amount that should be used. I think the owner FAFO'd it
@madmangohan
@madmangohan Жыл бұрын
I doubt the owner even knew about it. Asus have been using liquid metal on the CPU in many of their ROG laptops, but it's not something the average Joe probably knows, let alone to be cautious about.
@IwanAribowo
@IwanAribowo Жыл бұрын
Nice cleaning job Alex.. you don't mess around with liquid metal
@liaminwales
@liaminwales Жыл бұрын
Liquid metal videos are always good videos, still find it funny how much people dont think before they use it.
@XainonN
@XainonN Жыл бұрын
I actually enjoyed the part with the music, felt like an ASMR video.
@stefanlechner
@stefanlechner Жыл бұрын
Oh my god, there is really no need to take liquid metal instead of thermal paste. That was a nice fix but a very tedious. Thank you for that video. Greets
@DaftFader
@DaftFader Жыл бұрын
I foumd the shop tour more interesting than the fix this time round 😁
@adiposerex5150
@adiposerex5150 Жыл бұрын
Anyone who takes tech to Best Buy deserves it.
@Elyon113
@Elyon113 Жыл бұрын
always magnificent work!
@LGearc12
@LGearc12 Жыл бұрын
Same happened to me, was about to bin laptop, but seeing your past videos I decided to clean my MB of my laptop (Asus dash tuf....fx517zr and works fine. Yeah it's OK to put on liqiud metal but taking it off is very difficult goes everywhere, didn't do much with thermal levels really.. good old arctic mx-6 thermal paste.
@CooLDEaFy
@CooLDEaFy Жыл бұрын
nice jacket, Big Boss.... Good job Alex... Excellent
@Doddster1983
@Doddster1983 Жыл бұрын
And there's me thinking that music was a deliberate addition, you're pretty good at editing huh? :D Btw the music is cool, you should keep it in the background
@garyflippin1690
@garyflippin1690 Жыл бұрын
Thumbs up on the ASMR cleaning!
@hpat225
@hpat225 Жыл бұрын
Hello, from Côte d'Ivoire (Ivory Coast). 👍
@husseinkiani2351
@husseinkiani2351 Жыл бұрын
Manual solder pump is amazing for removing liquid metal.
@safn1949
@safn1949 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic job, well done from a new subscriber.
@junkeboy
@junkeboy Жыл бұрын
Hi to the Northridge team. Could plz make a video about liquid metal. Do's and Don'ts, when and how to apply it or using it. Thank you 🙏🙏🙏
@pixsteak9724
@pixsteak9724 Жыл бұрын
I've been using Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut (Delided 2600k, GTX1070 and 3 Laptops) for the pass 6 years. This clip brings me entertain and anxiety combo
@BigEightiesNewWave
@BigEightiesNewWave Жыл бұрын
The laptop was scared to not come on with Boss of all Bosses staring it down.
@melannieworld
@melannieworld Жыл бұрын
Very nice work!
@user-Phil841
@user-Phil841 Жыл бұрын
liquid metal has a great performance, you just have to use the right amount and cover around with e-tape, and of course you need to use copper or nickel as a cooler.
@ChannelJanis
@ChannelJanis Жыл бұрын
Looks like they used liquid metal like regular thermal paste. Liquid metal must be applied as little as possible, there are great tutorials around! I applied liquid metal to my PC CPU and also laptop CPU/GPU. In my case PC was an delidding experiment, but laptop had poor thermal performance. Nail polish was used for masking nearby components, I would love to use UV mask, but I did not have access to it.
@McHaro0079
@McHaro0079 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Big Boss!
@The98deville
@The98deville Жыл бұрын
The music was a nice touch
@FussyPickles
@FussyPickles Жыл бұрын
incredible job, sir
@erbro
@erbro Жыл бұрын
I kinda liked the fast forward with the music
@rfr653
@rfr653 Жыл бұрын
Good job mate 👍
@MrGeneralScar
@MrGeneralScar Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, yeah liquid metal for me to such a pain. ASUS have started using liquid metal from the factory now for the CPU in many ROG models. My ROG Strix G513 Advantage has liquid metal from the factory on the Ryzen 5900HX CPU, so does my nephews Rog Strix Intel i7 10th gen RTX2070 model. When there was a mainboard failure of my nephews (milk spill near GPU power delivery) I took the thermal unit off his to reveal the liquid metal, it had run off the CPU die and all over the CPU chip, but there is a small raised border to the chip which it didnt get past, but the actual silicon die was not covered well at all (and the laptop was overheating prior to the spill). To me it seems like they used far too much TIM at the factory on his machine, I took about 2/3rds of the stuff off and still could easily cover the silicon package. We sent the machine back to ASUS and they repaired the board. The amount that is on this laptop is probably enough to cover 1 or 2 threadrippers with TIM. I dont like liquid metal, too many problems for not enough gain. I use Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut currently, but I might try the Carbonaut next cleaning of my machine to see how it goes (I run a threadripper).
@Th3OmegaPoint
@Th3OmegaPoint Жыл бұрын
That looks like a Zephyrus, those have liquid metal applied from the factory. I'm guessing it must have leaked out of the barrier at some point.
@2005saadcomputer
@2005saadcomputer Жыл бұрын
Good work 👍👏
@josephchristianruiz6581
@josephchristianruiz6581 Жыл бұрын
It's one of the reasons why I hated LM, especially when that stuff spills over due to user error. It doesn't mean when there's a guide for it you'll just blatantly follow it, it will also depend on the mounting pressure of the cpu and gpu die. If there is a gap, that stuff will certainly overheat at a rapid rate and may spillover after multiple expansion and contraction cycles of the heatsink. LM will only work as long as the contact for both the cpu and gpu is perfect or atleast the airgap is under 0.5mm and not exceeding 1mm.
@4skinmeat
@4skinmeat Жыл бұрын
I nominate Big Boss to be a secret Boss fight in Elden Ring 2. The catch is he cannot be defeated.
@MrKab04
@MrKab04 Жыл бұрын
lol the time lapse was a nice change over hearing you complain
@nenadmatasic1317
@nenadmatasic1317 Жыл бұрын
Nice Job. 👍
@kalui96
@kalui96 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for saving another unit from going to landfill
@michaelblack5011
@michaelblack5011 Жыл бұрын
Amazing Job 👍👍👌👌
@rehnmaak
@rehnmaak Жыл бұрын
I am curious if putting the board in a ultrasonic cleaner would get rid of lqd metal. Perhaps you could try on a nofix board eventually? Good work anyway.
@BertoldVdb
@BertoldVdb Жыл бұрын
I tried this and it didn't do much. It sticks too well. Manual removal worked but was a pain.
@bornagain2641
@bornagain2641 Жыл бұрын
Big boss is like the Fonze. Works in his leather jacket.. 👍🏻👍🏻ayyyy
@bluereflection
@bluereflection Жыл бұрын
really enjoyed the background music
@re-fix9678
@re-fix9678 Жыл бұрын
good👍👍👌👌
@TravisAndrew1
@TravisAndrew1 Жыл бұрын
i kinda liked the music over the board cleanup
@nil2547
@nil2547 Жыл бұрын
I think you can use desoldering pump for that kind of issue
@asifhaji
@asifhaji Жыл бұрын
MashaAllah bro your work is amazing
@DirtyRobot
@DirtyRobot Жыл бұрын
If you stock liquid metal on your store, just think of all those extra repairs you will generate....
@okoriesteven953
@okoriesteven953 Жыл бұрын
Good job 👍
@vitorluis_freerider
@vitorluis_freerider Жыл бұрын
Hi, ultrasonic cleaner isn't an options for this, especially for cleaning under the gpu?
@zestblaster
@zestblaster Жыл бұрын
Big boss done it again. 🎉
@deadbatt9321
@deadbatt9321 Ай бұрын
Use PTM7950, less messy, non-conductive and temps are just as good.
@kinnymonster
@kinnymonster Жыл бұрын
Like the leather jacket. It's Big Boss that makes this look good.
@user-ml7bg6ki4y
@user-ml7bg6ki4y Жыл бұрын
can i ask what type of silicone paste you use as thermal paste?
@clark2711
@clark2711 Жыл бұрын
That's a million dollar question. "what's wrong with normal thermal paste?" "Nothing"
@shiro214okane
@shiro214okane Жыл бұрын
just get ptm7950 thermal pad or get really good termal paste like cooler master gel pro v2 or gelid. lucky customer it didn't cause too much damage.
@antares2953
@antares2953 6 ай бұрын
I have the same laptop and it freaked me out when I realized it has liquid metal stock from the factory
@Seth22087
@Seth22087 Жыл бұрын
People go for liquid metal usually because laptops have limited cooling and often do thermal throttle, so they try to alleviate that by improving thermal transfer from CPU/GPU to cooler. But the problem of liquid metal is exactly that it is liquid. First you need to apply it right, then you need to make sure it is just the right amount. It might be slightly less strict on desktop you won't carry around, but on laptop, you need to be very strict about it, otherwise you risk spill, since liquid metal is liquid. Especially if you will not have laptop on desk all the time and will carry it on back or in hand in vertical position, not to mention that any bump can set it flying around, which is what this case feels to me. Like it doesn't have to be strong bump, if you got too much. Hence why I would never use it on laptops. Since you really want to have some seal around CPU or GPU, if you use it, bit like o n PS5. Also you can save yourself a ton of trouble here by doing research on laptops you are interested in, particularly in thermal department, since you can avoid all the fuss by buying one that won't thermal throttle stock, so no need for liquid metal, yes it will still run hot, but chips can handle it, they are expected to run hot, all involved companies know they will. But you can absolutely get terrible results, one of worse I saw was i7 laptop getting beaten by i5 laptop because former had huge thermal throttle problems and latter might had lower core count and clock, but it didn't throttle at all.
@mikhailmalyar7977
@mikhailmalyar7977 Жыл бұрын
Do you ever use an ultrasonic cleaner?
@TheKenken2001
@TheKenken2001 Жыл бұрын
Maybe if some manufacturer is able to invent an airlock o-ring rubber thermally designed for the CPU and heatsink gap, only I might consider using liquid metal..
@phester28
@phester28 Жыл бұрын
would an ultrasonic cleaner be a possible last ditch effort to clean liquid metal that has gone under a BGA chip. Ive seen people put board in the dishwasher etc.
@yukr0905
@yukr0905 Жыл бұрын
Very strange other shops didn't do it.
@okhascorpio
@okhascorpio Жыл бұрын
Would it have helped puting the board in ultrasonic cleaner? would it get rid of liquid metal?
@jty9631
@jty9631 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if there's anything like a little tiny vacuum tube to clean up liquid metal
@sohaibahsan5168
@sohaibahsan5168 Жыл бұрын
Good video, ...
@j.lietka9406
@j.lietka9406 Жыл бұрын
I have not messed with liquid metal thermal paste, but is there a quality material or substance that can help remove the residue? Thank you 🤓
@positronikiss
@positronikiss Жыл бұрын
I just got a brand new g14 2022 that comes with liquid metal on the cpu die. Should I just apply conformal coating everywhere or just plain clean the liquid metal and put thermal paste? Im worried cuz i like this machine so much....also, should i handle it differently then? Cant i carry it in a backpack like any other laptop? :( Thx for help guys! Love these videos man!
@mahmoudata1998
@mahmoudata1998 Жыл бұрын
Good work my friend. You work absolutely like a surgeon👌👏👏 تحياتي من مصر 🇪🇬🇪🇬🇪🇬
@antoniomancini4894
@antoniomancini4894 Жыл бұрын
Nice job
@ejeckk
@ejeckk Жыл бұрын
The problem is not folks choosing to use LiquidMetal as a thermal transfer medium, it's the amount. Folks new to self upgrading use the LM in the same amounts one would use thermal paste. The amount of LM required compared to thermal past in miniscule. Users slather LM on like sun tan lotion and the results are consistently like what we seen in this video.
@sintaxera
@sintaxera Жыл бұрын
I was gonna say. I ran conductonaut for a while and I used about a tenth of what he cleaned off the board...
@brandonhowell2539
@brandonhowell2539 Жыл бұрын
this is the common amount asus puts on their laptops and is 90% of the units we see come in out of the box with the same issue. This is a manufacturer issue not consumer.
@ejeckk
@ejeckk Жыл бұрын
@@brandonhowell2539, thank you for the clarification.
@soulcatcher668
@soulcatcher668 Жыл бұрын
@@brandonhowell2539 Wait, are you saying ASUS is shipping these laptops with liquid metal from factory?
@regulator18E
@regulator18E Жыл бұрын
@soulcatcher668 yes. First thing I did when I got my asus rog was to open it and clean the liquid metal spillover that I knew was likely, and indeed that was the situation I saw when i opened it.
@rajatverma360
@rajatverma360 Жыл бұрын
Very nice
@Dukep6
@Dukep6 Жыл бұрын
Big boss is legendary!
@ro63rto
@ro63rto Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it be easier to use a tiny nozzled vacuum to remove all the visible liquid metal since swabs just move it around the board. You could also finish it up in the ultrasonic with distilled water, no?
@pubbiehive
@pubbiehive Жыл бұрын
A bunch of the higher end gaming laptops from Asus come with liquid metal from the factory now, it's a massive pain in the ass to deal with when doing repairs.
@suryavanshib
@suryavanshib Жыл бұрын
Awesome ✌🏻✌🏻✌🏻
@coldfire0101
@coldfire0101 Жыл бұрын
should try removing that using a hoover, like the desolder pump without the het
@strawman9410
@strawman9410 Жыл бұрын
What was that mini hoover or liquid metal sucker?
@basilghaith56
@basilghaith56 Жыл бұрын
بالعربي ومن الاخر انت معلم واحنا منك بنتعلم
@Showstopper108
@Showstopper108 Жыл бұрын
Big boss is the man we need more of him inshallah soon
@amldesh
@amldesh Жыл бұрын
Can we use Ultrasonic cleaner to clean it 🤔
@aaronwlkr
@aaronwlkr Жыл бұрын
People like to use liquid metal, because they hear all these rumors, it will lower the temps and make the laptop run a few degrees cooler. However, its highly conductive unlike most paste, and as you see, you have to be super careful, and apply very lite coating to avoid runout and killing your laptop like you see here. Some of the newer liquid metals that come preinstalled on laptops, revert to a solid-ish state when cold to help avoid the mess and problems. That stuff was wet, so it was probably customer installed.
@giedrius6726
@giedrius6726 Жыл бұрын
I don't understand some people they use liquid metal for less temperature on procesor but at the end for less temperature you get broken device why people trie to use liquid metal if there shuold be termal paste bydeway alex great job
@madmangohan
@madmangohan Жыл бұрын
Asus have been using liquid metal on the CPU with some of the ROG models for years now. This wasn't the owner doing it, however their tinkering to fix the laptop likely caused the spill.
@giedrius6726
@giedrius6726 Жыл бұрын
@@madmangohan agree
@tonyfishlock7240
@tonyfishlock7240 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 it was nice without the complaining 😁 but good video
@niof
@niof Жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with normal thermal paste, but the thermal conductivity is just a fragment of any liquid metal solution. In this case (liqud metal) less is way more! Apply it very carefully is essential, and the result is worth it. Faster and even heat dissipation with less noise. But! Very tiny amount needed against of normal thermal paste.
@MrChrisjcb
@MrChrisjcb Жыл бұрын
have you ever tried high pressure air to remove liquid metal from under chips?
@mohamedhussein120
@mohamedhussein120 Жыл бұрын
Nice ✌🏾
@UnCoolDad
@UnCoolDad Жыл бұрын
Have to wonder if the benefits of Liquid Metal are worth the potential risk.
@animarkzero
@animarkzero Жыл бұрын
Not for laptops....but for stationary pc's its ok because you dont move your PC around Just dont use too much 😋Also dont use aluminum coolers....😨 Laptops that have LM from the factory have special sponges that prevent from spilling the LM on the board
@brianfist
@brianfist Жыл бұрын
Looks like another Hiroshima! Lucky that you were able to fix. You're a Pro!
@Cashvile615
@Cashvile615 Жыл бұрын
I think an small vacuum pen would work for suction the Liquid Metal on the board.
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