ASUS P2B Restoration: Board #6 - Leaking capacitor causes devastation!

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Bits und Bolts

Bits und Bolts

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@dracoix
@dracoix 6 ай бұрын
Your training is now complete, you have unlocked the ability to craft a Slot 1 motherboard from scratch. [6/6 Motherboards Completed!]
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 6 ай бұрын
Hahaha :) Games like Oblivion and Skyrim come to mind...
@GadgetUK164
@GadgetUK164 6 ай бұрын
Yay, what an epic series! I learned a few amazing techniques from you in this series! I really loved watching every episode!
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 6 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@GadgetUK164
@GadgetUK164 6 ай бұрын
@@bitsundbolts Keep doing what you're doing - a joy to watch!
@MIJ-Tech
@MIJ-Tech 5 ай бұрын
You pleasantly exceeded my expectations. It always pleases me to see broken vintage hardware restored.
@pavelfara9333
@pavelfara9333 5 ай бұрын
Man you have done some goodness for the community. These are good boards for retro builds and can make several people happy!
@drkamilz
@drkamilz 6 ай бұрын
I can watch your repair videos all day.
@germanskena6537
@germanskena6537 6 ай бұрын
Sorry, but i have ONLY COMPLIMENTS FOR YOU. If you lost followers or viewers (this people doesn't know what is good). Excellent work. AS ALWAYS. Keep doing what you do. You show in all the videos more than a repair, is the love for the good work repairing this motherboards in this case, but i follow you for a while, and is constant, not only for this serie. GREAT WORK. (My like and i am already subscribed)
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for your kind words! I'll try to continue and even improve to make content like this!
@georgez8859
@georgez8859 6 ай бұрын
Great Job! Nice to see more vintage hardware saved from the scrap pile.Thank you for the Videos.
@Fallen608
@Fallen608 6 ай бұрын
Your videos are always a comfy watch. Years ago in the early 00's my late father and I threw away a mountain of old computer gear from the 90s. Only later in life did I regret that decision as I now have such nostalgia for computer hardware and games of that era and I love fixing things. Keep up the great content, You have inspired me to finally get into board level repairs. I'll try to use your affiliate links as a thanks.
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 6 ай бұрын
I wish you all the best and I am happy that you might have found a new passion! And thank you for your support!
@JamieBainbridge
@JamieBainbridge 6 ай бұрын
Unbelievable! I thought at least 2 of these boards would be write-offs for the parts pile. Thanks for sharing. It's very enjoyable to watch someone so good at their craft.
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for your kind words!
@arnlol
@arnlol 6 ай бұрын
And here it is, you did it, 6/6! You even got one to POST first try! x)
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 6 ай бұрын
A great finale and tribute to those great boards.
@sparki_
@sparki_ 6 ай бұрын
i am happy and sad at the same time. I am happy you got all of them working but i am sad because the series is over 😢
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 6 ай бұрын
I am sure, there will be more connected content to come :) I have a few other interesting pieces of retro hardware to show!
@sparki_
@sparki_ 6 ай бұрын
@@bitsundbolts looking forward to them!
@Choralone422
@Choralone422 6 ай бұрын
I've really enjoyed this series. Having 6 working boards is a great accomplishment as far as I'm concerned! Looking forward to whatever comes next. :)
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 6 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@tadeustad
@tadeustad 5 ай бұрын
Great job with the P2B Resurrection made sixfold!
@tony359
@tony359 6 ай бұрын
ESR on the first cap is 0.15 KILO ohm! 150 Ohm - that cap is gone! I need an engraving pen :)
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 6 ай бұрын
Haha, yes! I totally missed that it was KILO ohms! And I know why you need that engraving pen! You liked how it flipped those SMD capacitors off the board, didn't you????
@tony359
@tony359 6 ай бұрын
@@bitsundbolts that was cool but no, I just like how nicely you can polish traces without polish the whole area. The rubber thing I have is great and probably gentler but it takes away chunks of solder mask
@dolphhandcreme
@dolphhandcreme 6 ай бұрын
2:10 Did you notice the "K" before the Ohm? This is everything but a low ESR ;-) BTW the Atten is a good rework station! Bought it a year ago to replace my old cheap one.
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 6 ай бұрын
I did not notice it :) Someone else mentioned it. I guess I completely ignored the unit... Of course, this is not low ESR :) I like the Atten - I used it to get some connectors off those donor boards, but I also like to try my luck with the chipset on them. BGA rework is something I want to get good at.
@dolphhandcreme
@dolphhandcreme 6 ай бұрын
@@bitsundbolts BGA rework can be quite satisfying or mood-destroying. I practiced on some old routers and graphic cards. Worked quite well. Later on i tried fixing a 430HX board (GA586DX) - which unfortunately didn't work out. I also had to repair some ripped pads and use soldermask. Can't figure out why, maybe something else is fishy with this board. My last project was reviving a AM4 motherboard where the X570-chipset was dead. This on the other hand worked like a charm and gave me great confidence in my work again. It's a hit-and-miss sometimes, but practice helps a lot!
@AladimBR
@AladimBR 6 ай бұрын
I didn’t comment on the previous video when you changed the capacitors and most were ok. Imho, it is worth replacing if you value the component. Here is why: you know don’t when it going to fail: it can leak and eat away components beyond repair (this video just demonstrated the potential damage), they can fail and cause electrical damage to other components, etc. They might be ok today, but for how long? A recapped board with good quality components will last another 20 years. Congratulations on the series, I loved it. PS: I checked my Soyo board, didn’t find any loose power elements (mosfets). I hoped it was the case. Back to storage waiting for a new inspiration / idea
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 6 ай бұрын
Yes, you're right. There will be a time where those caps are going to fail. It is still remarkable that the caps on those boards seem to be ok for now. But who knows for how long. Could be a couple of years, but I have a feeling that they'll be fine for much longer considering that those boards probably won't be used for long periods of time.
@rodhester2166
@rodhester2166 6 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed watching this series of repairs. .thanks.
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 6 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@SidebandSamurai
@SidebandSamurai 6 ай бұрын
Fantastic series. You really show us how it's done properly. I watch all parts and looked forward to each one. Thank you very much
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 6 ай бұрын
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed the videos!
@CMDRSweeper
@CMDRSweeper 6 ай бұрын
Awww, sad about the declining views, this was a series I truly enjoyed watching and nice to see my vote / guess was correct. I went with all 6 six repaired for your poll at the start of this series.
@user-wy6iy7ij1z
@user-wy6iy7ij1z 6 ай бұрын
That was a cool series. It's amazing that you were able to fix them all
@FireballXL55
@FireballXL55 6 ай бұрын
Removing the 20 pin PSU connector you probably could have a spare mating half plugged in to aid removal, although in this case it seemed to come out OK. I have loved watching your revival of these boards.
@peterkornaukhov9990
@peterkornaukhov9990 6 ай бұрын
It seems to me the P2B user is able to upgrade up to Celeron 1400 tualatin not Pentium III because the mobo supports 100 Mhz not 133 frontside. This is very good, meanwhile not comparable to P4 and so far it can be a perspective and a free maneuver. Thank you so much, awesome video
@joseledo9431
@joseledo9431 5 ай бұрын
Good working with this motherboard series. I learnt some tips to restore. Any content is welcome !
@drewnewby
@drewnewby 6 ай бұрын
Ending it out with the best NFS no less, 6 out of 6.
@vonhapen1
@vonhapen1 6 ай бұрын
Congrats on this great achievment. Repaired and even upgraded. Considering the initial state of the motherboards, that is just awesome and really great work. And I really like the series, could have been more then 6 boards... 😁😁
@ricdintino9502
@ricdintino9502 6 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear about the declining views, I DID watch them all.
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 6 ай бұрын
The declining views aren't a big issue. But I am glad the journey is over and the project is complete. Thanks for watching!
@Auberge79
@Auberge79 6 ай бұрын
I think I still have same board in my PBX "PC" running trixbox (asterisk based PBX distributive). It still is running 24/7 for over 15 years at least. (Yeah, it was used for another 10 years at least before being installed into my PBX PC. I did replace power supply unit though, like 3 years ago. Or even more. Maybe before COVID.😅 That's the hardware! I'm sure it would run for another decade easily.
@stevenrun34
@stevenrun34 6 ай бұрын
I've really enjoyed this whole series and learned a few things along the way. Thanks very much for putting it together!
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 6 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it and thank you!
@Constantin314
@Constantin314 6 ай бұрын
you left the best for last, BuB, awesome repair as usual. since you've put so much work into them, hope you've sold them all
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 6 ай бұрын
I think each board will find a new home - messages are coming in. Thank you for watching!
@Constantin314
@Constantin314 6 ай бұрын
@@bitsundbolts thank you, too!
@Roadkill7878
@Roadkill7878 6 ай бұрын
Great series of repairs and very watchable.
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 6 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@RacerX-
@RacerX- 6 ай бұрын
Fantastic! I loved this series and am glad you were able to restore all 6. Keep up the good work!
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 6 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@DangerousPictures
@DangerousPictures 5 ай бұрын
I was waiting for a pizza and just as the board posted my timer went off. perfect timing
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 5 ай бұрын
Haha, nice!
@Markworth
@Markworth 6 ай бұрын
It was worse than I thought when I first saw it, but still. I think success was all but certain after #2. Very impressive repairathon.
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 6 ай бұрын
Thanks! I should have finished with board #2 ;)
@mtunayucer
@mtunayucer 6 ай бұрын
How the views are dropping? I watched all of them!
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 6 ай бұрын
Haha, it got a bit repetitive maybe! But good to hear that I can count on viewers like you! Thanks!
@djdoo
@djdoo 3 ай бұрын
That board uses those bad blue no name caps like the one that exploded and not that light green Sanyo ones you replaced at the previous board. Consider putting the Sanyo ones you removed to this board cause maybe another blue one may release its guts in the near future Great work again! Cheers and I saw all videos...
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 3 ай бұрын
Wow! Making it through all six videos is quite the achievement ☺️. There should be a badge for this!
@awilliams1701
@awilliams1701 6 ай бұрын
Yeah this is why I believe in replacing 30 year old capacitors even if they are still good. Because if they go bad it requires more work to fix. It's a preventative maintenance thing.
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 6 ай бұрын
I get your point! This wasn't fun to clean up. Especially that it can be prevented. But I find it odd that this was the only capacitor that leaked. Every other capacitor on this board and the other five boards was ok.
@metalworksmachineshop
@metalworksmachineshop 6 ай бұрын
I watched all 6 restored board videos. Love the content. I'd like to have one , but I'm sure shipping would cost more than the board is worth shipped to Ohio USA
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 6 ай бұрын
Shipping cost is the main deterrent of me shipping things around. It cost about 25 USD to ship to USA, but I might find a solution to this given enough time.
@metalworksmachineshop
@metalworksmachineshop 6 ай бұрын
I sent you an email
@retropcscotland4645
@retropcscotland4645 6 ай бұрын
I liked this series watched it from day 1. See if you can get a bunch of fubar socket 370's now and make those work. Go up an era because that too would be interesting. Well done on making all 6 work.
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 6 ай бұрын
I will go tomorrow to the scrapyard and try to get some Coppermine and Tualatin CPUs. Who knows what I'll find. But I'm at the lookout for 100 MHz FSB CPUs
@retropcscotland4645
@retropcscotland4645 6 ай бұрын
@@bitsundbolts Awesome yes I liked the old "Flip chips" some of my fondest memories.
@eDoc2020
@eDoc2020 5 ай бұрын
@@bitsundbolts I wouldn't mind seeing the mod to get a Tualatin to work on an older board. Hint, hint, but also no pressure.
@DefenderOfBoston-yo2tl
@DefenderOfBoston-yo2tl 6 ай бұрын
Amazing job, congratulations! Initially looking at these boards, I would have expected at least one of them to have lost an irreplaceable component that would have relegated it to become a donor board for some of the others. Fortes fortuna adiuvat! However, your final boss still awaits... 😄😉 Doing a bit of "research", I only recently discovered that there was a version of this board supporting dual CPUs and containing an onboard SCSI controller, the P2B-DS. The thought of dual CPUs really appealed to me back in the day, starting with the Tyan Tomcat IV. Being that far ahead of their time, Multi-Core setups wouldn't have been much use for gaming and therefore just an expensive disappointment though I suppose.
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 6 ай бұрын
Thank you! I have to start looking into the dual slot CPU I pulled from a pile of boards a few months ago. I never had an encounter with tech like this back in the day.
@DefenderOfBoston-yo2tl
@DefenderOfBoston-yo2tl 6 ай бұрын
@@bitsundbolts Oh, did you feature such a board among your scrapyard finds? In that case, I must be getting old. 😅 As they were purely business oriented products, I didn't directly come into contact with them either, but I remember seeing them in catalogues and fantasizing about their performance. It would be quite interesting to see how well dual CPU setups worked back in the day and what software could actually make use of them. If only as a confirmation that, contrary to my younger self's hopes, they would have been absolutely useless for gaming and not straight up twice as fast. 😄
@lexluthermiester
@lexluthermiester 6 ай бұрын
@BitUndBolts I was happy with each one of these P2B videos. Very cool stuff. But I'm a bit different and eccentric.. EDIT: BTW, again, very well done!! Looking forward to see what you do with a few of those boards!
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 6 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@CallumFaulds1
@CallumFaulds1 6 ай бұрын
Could you make the music a bit quieter going forward? I have to drop the volume 2/3 each time music starts playing. Great videos by the way, I have noticed a quality improvement as of late.
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 6 ай бұрын
Will try to improve! Thanks 👍
@Hadisabetghadam
@Hadisabetghadam 6 ай бұрын
Congrat Sir You Just A Pro Repair
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 6 ай бұрын
Ah, I wish :) But I am happy you think so! Thank you!
@dtechsrv
@dtechsrv 6 ай бұрын
This 0.15 kꭥ ESR (=150 ꭥ) is not a low value.
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 6 ай бұрын
I did not see that! You are absolutely correct.
@kevkabluebird1032
@kevkabluebird1032 6 ай бұрын
Was about to write that :D
@dataneekeri
@dataneekeri 6 ай бұрын
Amazing stuff! My Slot1 computer is Abit BE6-II with slocket adapter from Power Leap. Running Pentium III-S 1.4GHz. I am original owner of those :)
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 6 ай бұрын
Nice! I assume you had to modify the slocket adapter to make Tualatin work on this board, or am I wrong?
@aleksandardjurovic9203
@aleksandardjurovic9203 5 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@przemysawrak5059
@przemysawrak5059 6 ай бұрын
Masz fach w ręku 👏
@fft2020
@fft2020 6 ай бұрын
wow! 6 nice motherboards that get a second live! Thank you so much for another wonderful video. Your fixing skills have reached legendary level now :) By the way can you please post the name of that component tester you used on the capacitor? I would like to get one too ... there are so many out there I am afraid to get a bad quality one
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 6 ай бұрын
I will post the link later, I hope I won't forget. I also got a bad one with a poor LCD display. I don't know why because all of them look the same. It's still kind of trial and error I fear. I'll put a link in the video description in a couple of hours. Thank you for watching!
@SudosFTW
@SudosFTW 6 ай бұрын
WHat stands out to me is that one capacitor could have been hit with something corrosive which made it balloon like that. I have a Macintosh SE that still worked despite a battery going nuclear on the board, and the main takeaway with that machine was that it had chemicon axial caps that were ballooned and deformed so badly I could barely tell their values. This was more likely due to corrosion hitting that spot and wicking up into the capacitor and reacting with the electrolyte etc with age and time.
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 6 ай бұрын
I never saw a capacitor that had something like those boils. Maybe you are right. All the other boards also looked like something corrosive dropped on them.
@alexj.f.kennedy6084
@alexj.f.kennedy6084 6 ай бұрын
Very nice series, was a blast to see you repair all these boards! One thing I am wondering tho: Why didn't you use vinnegar to combat the corrosion caused by the leaked capacitor? I saw it giving very good results, and I bet it would be faster than doing it with the engraving pen :D
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 6 ай бұрын
Ah it might not be obvious in the video, but I did use vinegar. It helps take debris away when using the engraving pen. Vinegar alone will probably not be enough. I remove discolored solder mask to make sure there's no corrosion left.
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 6 ай бұрын
10:25 i wonder what made the video wobbly like that. Is that an anti rolling shutter filter or something like that?
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 6 ай бұрын
No... It's unfortunately my fume extractor 😔. It's on the desk right next to the board and one of the rubber legs touches the wooden work board. That is why the vibration is there and makes the video look like that. Unfortunately, I noticed it too late
@Ale.K7
@Ale.K7 6 ай бұрын
Loved the series :-)
@MarcoGPUtuber
@MarcoGPUtuber 6 ай бұрын
10:58 I see a solder bridge at 7:55 on the two caps on the bottom right. I guess that didn't affect anything?
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 6 ай бұрын
That bridge is actually also on the board. There are two differently spec'd capacitors, one in the low pF and one with uF. If I am not mistaken, they filter different frequencies.
@MarcoGPUtuber
@MarcoGPUtuber 6 ай бұрын
@@bitsundbolts Interesting. Didn't know that.
@SobieRobie
@SobieRobie 6 ай бұрын
Congratz
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 6 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@ted-b
@ted-b 6 ай бұрын
Great job!
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 6 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Bergi2000
@Bergi2000 6 ай бұрын
Fireworks! :-)
@romanrm1
@romanrm1 6 ай бұрын
I believe "the ASUS chip" might be responsible for hardware monitoring of temperatures and voltages, so you'd better check that part is working, before declaring the motherboard fixed. Also if that's the case, it is most likely the motherboard would still POST and work with the ASUS chip removed entirely.
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 6 ай бұрын
All boards report voltages and the motherboard temperature correctly in the BIOS hardware monitor. Of course, I could have missed something like the additional connectors for measuring additional temperatures (I don't have the original temperature probe), but chances are low since the other values are there.
@alexloktionoff6833
@alexloktionoff6833 6 ай бұрын
Run 1.2GHz Tualatin Celeron then?
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 6 ай бұрын
I am not entirely certain, but I believe I would have to mod an adapter card to get Tualatin CPUs working on slot 1. Maybe something I'll try to do in the future.
@awilliams1701
@awilliams1701 6 ай бұрын
Was this the only one that worked first try?
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 6 ай бұрын
Yes, but I had two or three other boards that just needed a bit of contact cleaner in the CPU slot. I learned from those and prepared properly this time. And it worked - first try! :)
@awilliams1701
@awilliams1701 6 ай бұрын
@@bitsundbolts true.
@Micha-dx2xw
@Micha-dx2xw 6 ай бұрын
3:15 What is this tool?
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 6 ай бұрын
It is an engraving pen. The bit rotates and can easily take away the solder mask on the surface. There is an affiliate link to such a tool in the video description.
@K10driver
@K10driver 6 ай бұрын
Comment number 3! The half of 6... That must be something special!
@WelshProgrammer
@WelshProgrammer 6 ай бұрын
I wonder why that last board has different colour peripheral connectors? Maybe a later revision, or they just ran out of black ones? Or what if it's a fake! 🤣
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 6 ай бұрын
Haha, no - I put those on there. I only have pink and blue spare parts. I could have changed the black one serial connector too, but it wasn't worth the effort.
@WelshProgrammer
@WelshProgrammer 6 ай бұрын
@@bitsundbolts I had to go back and look at the start again, It didn't click in my brain until you stacked them at the end. They were black and then they were coloured I should've spotted that you had swapped them! Great restoration series BuB, so glad that these excellent boards will rejoin the global circuit again.
@mariusznowakowski2644
@mariusznowakowski2644 6 ай бұрын
These boards were professional, they were repaired as in the service center, but the faults were not difficult to repair, it would be difficult to repair if one of the bridges collapsed and the BGA would have to be replaced.
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 6 ай бұрын
I agree - it was only physical damage. I want to practice more on BGA replacement - using a hot air station only. I don't have space for a BGA rework station - so, I need to master that craft with basic equipment.
@twiterMatt
@twiterMatt 6 ай бұрын
BuB - well done! Your videos are very relaxing, thank you for your job :)
@bitsundbolts
@bitsundbolts 6 ай бұрын
Thank you very much!
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