Asus Zenbook S14 with Intel Lunar Lake (review) - two steps forward, one step back!

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Hey guys, we just finished our even more in-depth analysis of Intel's new silicon on our website; feel free to check it out: www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Lunar-Lake-CPU-analysis-The-Core-Ultra-7-258V-s-multi-core-performance-is-disappointing-but-its-everyday-efficiency-is-good.893405.0.html

[@mikelay5360]

Mid CPU, stellar GPU, stellar overall power consumption Hallelujah! Am getting one.

[@michaeldyer6378]

Me to

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

It is great to see that Intel stayed true to what they promised!

[@systemBuilder]

Intel lopped off parts of its body until they hit their mythical power target. They did this in the past with their badly gimped M-series and Y-series throttlebooks! Enjoy hopping around on your one-armed one-legged laptop! I bought a 2-armed 2-legged full AMD hx365 Asus S16 and love it to death !!!

[@mikelay5360]

@@systemBuilder 😂 plenty of Copium today.

[@rgbplague7834]

@@systemBuilder I guess that is one way of coping with your purchase decision. Probably should have waited for Lunar Lake huh? You're going around in all the comments trying to persuade people to buy an AMD Strix Point instead. I hope you're at least getting commission for all your hard work buddy! 🤣

[@djayjp]

Finally! Someone compared it to the 890m!!! 🎉

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Makes sense, doesnt it?

[@mariopenulli1395]

@@NotebookcheckReviews Apparently not for all the other reviewers.

[@vncube1]

3 steps forward, 1 step back. Maybe Arrow Lake-H will surprise with great battery life and decent iGPU performance for a wider range of high power laptops but Lunar Lake does what it says on the box exceptionally well for low power normies.

[@xBINARYGODx]

plenty of non-normies might want this as the companion device.

[@aymanelzain1271]

6:48 Now Intel is beating AMD in GPU while using less power, I never thought that would happen.

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Welcome to 2024

[@JoonKimDMD]

But who uses iGPU for gaming to be honest?

[@TrusteftTech]

@@JoonKimDMD Many people.

[@JoonKimDMD]

@@TrusteftTech what games can we expect to run at the highest quality and native 60fps setting besides facebook poker and PS1 classic games?

[@TrusteftTech]

@@JoonKimDMD And there is your problem(s). Lack of imagination, lack of knowledge of games and the usual if it ain't 60fps min with the highest quality, it ain't worth shit. I am surprised you didn't also ask for 4K with that. But hey, if that makes you happy, I am not judging. Have a nice day.

[@Sunyup804]

Can you start testing standby time or standby battery drain?

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Good idea, will take it to the team!

[@yuvrajsingh15823]

Yeah, it will help. Qualcomm X series is quite good at it. It would help with better comparison.

[@mikelay5360]

I have seen a different review and it's great. Stayed at 100% battery %overnight 😅.

[@bmakszim]

Would take quite long in case of a MacBook

[@PAULME_CH]

But test standby time to other laptop also, to see how better (if) is..

[@tomis181]

100% okay with multicore taking a backseat to battery life. Single core still very decent and if someone finds themselves commonly maxing out threads perhaps they should consider something besides a thin and light

[@Bulkoz]

Finally the review I've been waiting for 😁

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Yepp, it has been a while! What are your thoughts?

[@moist_ointment]

An excellent CPU *for its intended audience*. Many people seem to be confused. If you need a lot of nT performance, LNL isnt for you. If you need a lot of battery life in Office Suite and Web Apps, in a thin, light quite laptop, then it is. Im in the later camp. If youre in the former camp, there are other options better suited for you. For me personally, LNL seems to be the best CPU option avaialble (i have no interest in QC because i do light gaming, and no interest in Mac OS despite its amazing CPU)

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Yepp, there is just not way to have the fastest CPU, long battery life AND a thin and light chassis! Physics still asks for compromise in some areas! :)

[@systemBuilder]

If you need a lot of performance and a lot of battery life and a beautiful huge screen - nothing can touch AMD strix point on the Asus S16 hx370 and hx365.

[@moist_ointment]

@@systemBuilder Strix has more nT performance, but worse ST performance and worse battery life. I don't need that much nT performance. I need ST and battery life.

[@SkyChaosKen]

@@moist_ointment 8:30 isn't strix performing better in battery life?

[@coprilettodelnapoli5466]

​@@moist_ointmentnt, st speak like you eat people😩😩😩

[@einpaul1]

The review I've been waiting for

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

You ask, we shall deliver! ;)

[@sebkeccu4546]

From what i understood the laptop is very fast as long as you don't install too many application, the reason is ASUS who install SSD's with low random IOPS speeds (they overlooked this SSD spec or they don't have the knowledge). As soon as you run more and more apps (processes) the random IOPS speeds is critical. This makes the laptops suddenly feel much slower then when they came out of the box for testing. To really test laptops, testers should install a reall ammount of applications to simulate real world situations. And Asus should install samsung SSD's which have much higher random IOPS then other SSD brands. Especially on their gaming laptops...or laptops where the ssd can't easily be replaced. I installed a samsung 990 pro and my new laptop suddenly feels like a monster, the SSD clearly was a the bottleneck. Unfortunally you can't see this bottle neck in the system monitoring, which only measures sequential speeds. There the disk activity looked fine...while it actually was not. Testing random IOPS is difficult, but real workloads need it badly.

[@anthonycruciani939]

I just bought a Macbook Air M3 on sale which was great performance for the price but now I want one of these. Asus has a winner here.

[@Gallardo994]

Could you please share the wallpaper? Thanks!

[@coffee7180]

8:30 the AMD won against all on battery life?

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

At least in this comparison group, yes!

[@chetan_naik]

Since the laptop models are very different, we don't know whether longer battery life was due to better efficiency or bigger battery. Ideally they should have mentioned battery capacity in the comparison.

[@bmakszim]

​@@chetan_naik It would make no sense. There are many other factors as well, like display technology, RAM, storage, etc. But at the end you will just choose from the available notebooks of the certain category. So, who cares whether one last longer because of the bigger battery or the more efficient chip. From the user's perspective, it does not matter.

[@chetan_naik]

@@bmakszim I beg to disagree. Power efficiency matters big time. More efficient CPU translates into lower heat-> option of passive cooling -> option of lighter battery -> overall smaller form factor. Power efficiency is the reason why Apple ditched Intel. Power efficiency is the reason Intel failed in the smartphone market. Even for big data centers anyone would gladly choose a platform that gives same performance while consuming only 80% of the power(provided all else is the same).

[@chetan_naik]

@@bmakszim Number one priority of Lunar lake is power efficiency. AFAIK Intel went to drawing board and designed lunar lake from ground up just for power efficiency.

[@toysars]

Good review! Lunar Lake is a big win for Intel, addressing the main challenges with Intel mobile SoCs. No one should be buying thin and light laptops for desktop level multi core performance. For majority of tasks, single core is more important, and Intel fully delivers there. It would be good to have stand by comparisons between Lunar Lake and Arm.

[@djayjp]

Please include a GAMING battery life benchmark!

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Will be very similar to our load values!

[@hkchew03]

The only rare video where AI 370 has better battery life.

[@herrspitz6964]

Yeah but i think the screen size and technology is the most energy consumer. Unfortunately this stupid ASUS contract with AMD makes comparisons with other manufacturers impossible.

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

It is really just that Vivobook for now, though. If you are looking at the Lenovo Yoga Pro or the Zenbook S16, both have worse battery life.

[@systemBuilder]

Of course the hx370 Zenbook S16 has worse battery life it has a screen that is 30% larger to drive!

[@serrael-182]

@@systemBuilder it should have a lager battery also.

[@anujpartihar]

Sir is there any expected timeframe when intel will release new cpu lineup for dedicated gpus like 4050s and 4060s? And i imagine amd has already done it with its new ai hx ones?

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

I do not think we will see anything on shelves in 2024.

[@lokitomanny]

could you share your wallpaper on the video....

[@gunta.]

Thanks a lot for you work, especially the fan noise tests! But this time you forgot to mention (also in the test article) that the Display can't be fully opened to 180 degrees. Well, the reflections on the shiny glare display seem to be a show stopper for a laptop in this price range, but good to hear that Intel is now also able to serve customers which are looking for a quiet and efficient Windows x86/x64 business laptop 🙂

[@nafriadn]

How was the performance only on battery?

[@chetan_naik]

Is lunar lake only for premium laptops priced above $1000? What about the budget segment?

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

For now, it looks that way! I would be very surprised to see any Lunar Lake devices below $1000

[@chetan_naik]

@@NotebookcheckReviews Thanks for the reply.👍

[@SAKTHITech]

For lower end, it will be meteor lake taking that mantle

[@MrKar18]

If graphics not important, snapdragon x plus are on the way. You get most benefits minus graphics. AMD might be next better option. I only wish snapdragon CPU had the e0gu driver support sorted out.

[@DT-vc7hd]

@@NotebookcheckReviews I suspect the glut of unsold Snapdragon laptops will keep the low end stocked for awhile.

[@lancetschirhart7676]

I just got one for Christmas. The lines you see on the chassis on the cover are actually indented, and there is a mirror-finish marbling in the grooves. It is a beautiful laptop. It’s simply a MacBook for people who want Windows, except apparently you can play games on it. Paid $999 for it. It is so absolutely tiny, I feel like I should have got the 15 inch if there is one, because that would be equally portable

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

I also quite liked it as a sort of daily "do-it-all" notebook! The S16 is also fantastic and not too big to be honest!

[@ZDY66666]

Arc is a gift that keeps giving

[@Gustavo_St]

Could you make a direct comparison against the Zenbook S 16, with the Zen5 chip?

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Well, i added it to most of our comparison graphs. What are you missing?

[@systemBuilder]

It's hard to compare against the zenbook s16 which is my laptop because it has a screen that is 30% larger, sucking MUCH MORE power, and a huge 78wh battery. The laptops aren't really in the same class. Zenbook S16 is for programming and "WOW" factor and it cripples the 890m due to the 33w power limit. Because of this power limit the 890m is less than 10% faster than the 880m so i bought the hx365 model with 880m, giving up ~1.33 p-cores (c-cores run at 2/3rd the speed of p-cores) and 8gb of ram, saving $300 ... The vivobook S14 is much more comparable because it has 50w cooling ability to get the most out of the 890m, but stupidly, Asus doesnt offer vivobook S14/hx370 in north america (only in europe with a WUXGA screen...) If you are programming using pmake (parallel make) or doing 3D or encoding / decoding and can benefit from the huge 16" screen the Zenbook S16 is your laptop. Its not the greatest for gaming due to the hard 33w power limit ...

[@Gustavo_St]

@@systemBuilder Thanks for that. I understand the Zenbook S 16 will ship in both Strix Point and Lunar Lake platforms, won´t it? They are both listed on Asus Global Website as UM5606 (Strix Point) and UX5606 (Lunar Lake). This would provide a perfect comparison between the platforms.

[@tty2020]

do we have lunarlake + 4060 or 4070 laptop yet? btw, the 480 PWM of the screen is not high at all. Huawei and Honor laptops now hav >1000 PWM OLED laptops

[@saito272]

Lunar Lake, to my knowledge, will not come with discrete GPUs like the 4060 and 4070. The laptops with these CPUs are designed to work alone on their iGPU alone.

[@Burbanana]

Thanks a lot, I have a question: So if Im opting for premium build, keyboard, touchpad, battery life and " heat you feel (on lap and hands)", between Ryzen 300/8000 and Lunar Lake, which would be the laptop you would recommend? For mostly casual and dev use for personal (hobby) projects. Is it worth waiting more? I have been slowly sifting through laptops since like March.. A possible option is Apple M4 of course, but I don't really prefer MacOS or their ecosystem.

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

If you need a laptop now or within a few months, I would say it is a great time to buy since you have quite a few very decent options. It also depends very much on your budget. If you are worried about external temperatures, we include these measurements in our written reviews for every notebook we review!

[@Burbanana]

@@NotebookcheckReviews Thanks for the tip, would you still recommend Ryzen 300 over Lunar Lake? I also have no idea when more Ryzen 300 laptops will be available.

[@HP4L16]

If you want real world CPU performance Ryzen HX 370 is the better chip, synthetic benchmarks make Lunar Lake look better than it actually is, GPU performance looks similar but AMD has better drivers, people still report issues with Intel drivers although it's gotten much better than what it used to be, still worlds better than Qualcomm chips.

[@pixeled-]

@@HP4L16 Agreed with your analysis :) I think if you intend to game on thin and light laptops like these, AMD is still the one to go with, at least up until and including the just released generation of APUs. I don't think Intel will manage to improve their GPU drivers that fast. Maybe in the next generation of APUs Intel will prove to be a more reliable option.

[@sebkeccu4546]

ASUS puts bad SSD's in their laptops -> low random IOPS disks. If you can purchase a laptop with a samsung SSD or replace the SSD yourself to a samsung 990 pro. Apple for example they have good random IOPS (i think they use samsung ssd's)

[@morten1]

Nice laptop all in all But isn't the screen TOO glossy?

[@andyH_England]

Yes, and it has only 400 nits, so it's not ideal if you work outdoors a lot. It would be more of a home laptop, I would have thought.

[@snkcorp.502]

I thought the display was purchased by Asus from Samsung. Corning gorilla glass with DX is now being used by samsung, including for its own Galaxy Book series, and the result is very good, visibly reduced reflections. Why Asus saves on purchases here is a mystery to me

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

The screen is very glossy, which sometimes even got me in trouble while filming. Indoors, when using the laptop "normally," it wasn't a huge deal for me, but yeah, if you need to work outside or in a very bright office a lot, the zen book might not be ideal!

[@morten1]

@@NotebookcheckReviews Maybe I could put on some anti-glare film ;)

[@coprilettodelnapoli5466]

​@@snkcorp.502they saved also on battery dimension

[@ezg8448]

Am I seeing that right? This notebook can suck up to 115 watts under load at full speed during futuremark?

[@PopaSergiuMihai]

It is indeed a good question. Maybe it was a typo?

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Where did you see that?

[@PopaSergiuMihai]

@@NotebookcheckReviews 7:47

[@MadalinIgnisca]

Around 7:50 ​@@NotebookcheckReviews

[@Frozoken]

No it caps out at 37w

[@flows30]

the only thing that might need confirmation is the GPU driver compatibility with games, is it still crashing some games or it is already fixed?

[@seanwhat6]

What about speakers?

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

08:00

[@seanwhat6]

@@NotebookcheckReviews ah thank you, I have no idea what my brain was doing during that part!

[@saito272]

Yooo, Finally, Lunar Lake reviews!!

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Your Startpage should be crowded with them by now 😅

[@saito272]

@@NotebookcheckReviews Yeah, i was waiting for it since the announcement lol!

[@maxalder7081]

When is the slim 7i aura comparison!

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

As soon as we can get sample!

[@badnai]

Kommen auch gaming Laptops mit lunar lake oder ist das eher eine CPU für dünne Laptops?

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Ich würde mal sagen eher nicht, dafür hat Intel ja noch andere CPU Familien in Arbeit. Lunar Lake wird wahrscheinlich wirklich für hochwertige, dünne Notebooks!

[@kotenkostiantyn1282]

How could it be less CPU power, more efficient and on top of that LESS Battery runtime comparebly with Ryzen 370? Is there different battery or what? (upd) battery is 72Wh on new S14 intel model and 75Wh on old S14 Ryzen AI 370

[@matthewfowler6032]

They have higher end lunar lake laptops. No idea why he’s comparing the middle of the road one.

[@seederorg2489]

That's the only available right now.​@@matthewfowler6032

[@systemBuilder]

Ryzen 370 in most charts is the Asus Zenbook S16 which has a huge screen 30% larger! But, it also has a huge 78wh battery!

[@kotenkostiantyn1282]

@@matthewfowler6032 Because It's first they could get hands on, surely we will see others too

[@synen]

Thanks to your review and responding to my question here in the comments I decided to purchase this machine, it arrives in about a week, as it is not locally available. Would you mind sharing the laptop cover that you use so I can purchase it for protection as well? Thanks again.

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

You are more than welcome, the sleeve came with our review sample! I am not sure if its included with the purchase globally, but maybe you are lucky?!

[@synen]

@@NotebookcheckReviews I will let you know, just got an update that arrives this Tuesday.

[@Albrts]

What can you recommend with 3:2 OLED 14.2-14.6" on Lunar Lake?

[@RicardoDawkins]

DELL

[@seb1099]

Thanks for this reviens. Is It possible To perform davinci résolve 4k with this zenbook 14 lunar lake? Thx

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

I was able to play back our black magic RAW with grades, but at 4k the Zenbook was struggling with transition, at half-res in the viewer everything was smooth tho. So I would probably be able to edit our videos on it if I had to.

[@LucaRapsodo]

Thanks a lot for your video. Can I ask if you would suggest this laptop for engineering programs like solidworks, matlab, and fem softwares? Or maybe the zephirus g14 would be more appropriate? Thanks a lot

[@systemBuilder]

For matlab get AMD strix point zen5 hx365 or hx370. For solidworks you may want a 4060 discrete gpu (asus zephyrus S16). These lunar lake laptops are like chromebooks there is no horsepower for serious compute ... Or wait for arrow lake but i still dont think it can beat zen5. By the time arrow lake is out it will be beaten by strix halo which will have a MUCH FASTER main memorybus and integrated AMD gpu of up to 4070 class ..

[@YasirQasimRazaq]

How does this compare to the Lenovo Slim 7i Aura edition since both of them spec wise are really similar and it seems its just the difference of brands and screen choice

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

I will do a video about the Yoga soon, if you can not wait you can check out our written review: www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-Ultra-7-256V-performance-debut-Lenovo-Yoga-Slim-7-15-Aura-laptop-review.898112.0.html

[@reaganhardin718]

Do you think asus will release new zenbook flip (2in1) ? I'm waiting from last year, but they didn't release a 2in1 ultra 7 varian

[@rahulrustagi6119]

Screen is not 180 degree.

[@VicharB]

Got this one for my wifey, the 258V/32GB/1TB version. Perfect for doing all her photo editing and travelling, though it could have been couple hundreds cheaper. For myself I am waiting for Ryzen HX 375 versions of Thinkpads/Elitebooks to consider upgrading my current EliteBook G10 835 7840U/32GB/2TB Sammy 990 Pro.

[@henryauckland8366]

i am not interested in benchmarks on paper or fps for gaming, can u do some rendering test using adobe PR, THANKS

[@tominfhl]

Do you think we will get a Lunar Lake Asus Zenbook Duo?

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Let's see, but we have no information about that for now.

[@garylamusa]

is the trackpad a haptic touchpad or springboard type?

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

It is not haptic.

[@synen]

How much is the performance hit while in battery mode???

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

You mean, without the power connected? Performance is about the same, no matter if you are plugged in or on battery!

[@synen]

@@NotebookcheckReviews For an x86 machine that is amazing! Thank you for taking the time to respond.

[@pixeled-]

Thanks for the very nice review, presented in manner that is very pleasing to the eye! :) I personally agree with your conclusion of Intel moving in the right direction, but I am missing your view on one important aspect: price point. It's hard to determine price/performance ratio (i.e. the actual value, in my opinion) without a price! Taking a quick look at the Asus store for my country I noticed this laptop with Intel's 258V CPU was listed for €1730 (grey) or 1800 (white) and I think that is just absolutely bonkers. For about €100 more you buy the Asus Zephyrus G16 with an AMD HX 370, 32GB RAM and an RTX 4060 here, which is also crazy expensive but also offers more value (imho). My point being: the laptop may be nice, but seeing how it's performing more or less the same as the latest AMD and Qualcomm SoCs yet costing hundreds of euro's more, I'm not seeing this fly off of the shelves just yet.

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Price is always a little tricky for us. Some of our videos have a very long shelf life, and prices fluctuate and vary significantly between markets. But I understand that it is a very important factor to consider when shopping for a new notebook. The Zenbook is definitely a very expensive piece of tech, but it comes with the "experience" to match in terms of chassis quality, a great screen, great speakers for this class of devices, stellar inputs, and pretty solid IO. So you are not just paying for the performance but for the whole package. Let us see how things develop once more devices are available.

[@FutureSoldierPY]

what about the 16 gb best buy model? It's 16 gb enough on a mobile processor?

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

That depends on your individual use case. For "every day" use or maybe even general productivity, 16 GB should suffice. For anything heavier, especially if you multitask a lot, you might be better off with 32 gigs.

[@systemBuilder]

If you want to play games on your laptop, realize that half the ram will be dedicated to the GPU, so 8GB video RAM, 8 GB game RAM. A 32GB laptop will have a much longer life, will run HUGE ai models, please try to scrape together the extra cash - it will last 3+ yrs longer with 32GB ...

[@MONSTANIMATION]

Is lunar lake good for coding/programming?

[@systemBuilder]

No.

[@_bigbro]

Lunar Lake is CPU with U preffix i/e they good for office task or outdoor activities like presentations or calls. but for students and coders LNL cores is comparable to CPU from 8-gen, like 7300HQ which I have in my Lenovo Legion. it's insufficient for large projects - java project within 100k files being compiled in 5 minutes, even if project placed on Samsung Evo 970+. SSD load is only 2-3% and CPU is the bottleneck. it's better to look at Ryzen 6xxxHS or at least Core 155H.

[@TechnoViel]

What about video editing, for example in Davinci Resolve? Does the strong GPU make up for the CPU here?

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

I tried Resolve and could play back and edit a finished project with colour grades and transitions from our Blackmagic Pocket Camera. The playback was smooth for the clips, but the transitions gave me dropped frames (those need more CPU grunt). Everything played back buttery smooth when I switched to half-res for the timeline. So I would probably be able to edit our KZbin videos on it, should the need arise, but I need to do some more testing.

[@TechnoViel]

Great, thanks for the quick answer! Which laptop or SoC would you recommend for occasional video editing? I'm tempted by Apples silicon, but not sure if to make the switch.

[@STVN20]

Can this be use for Graphic design adn 3D rendering?

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Really depends what you plan on doing, but I would say graphic design should be fine but 3D rendering might be a tough one.

[@D.u.d.e.r]

7:48 are you sure it's 115 W? Doesn't look real... still great review, thx for making it!

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

It is 17W, sorry about that!

[@parantez]

Would this be enough for photo editing? Or similar priced laptop with meteor lake+4050 be a better choice?

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

I guess it depends on what software you are running and how intense your edits are. However, a dedicated GPU is not very useful in photo editing, especially if you are using Photoshop, Lightroom, or Capture One.

[@parantez]

@NotebookcheckReviews Thanks for the hint. I am not doing intense tasks ,generally color correction etc. And using Lightroom and Luminar Neo generally. Looks I can survive without a dgpu

[@tomsun3159]

Given the fact that the most important feature of the apple silicone is that their performance remains the same on battery or on the the plug i miss this information for this device. All video snippets e.g. doing the Cinebench runs show the the device plugged in. how does Cinebench behave on battery?

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

We got some info on that in our written review; in the end, you get the same performance no matter if it's on battery or plugged in!

[@tomsun3159]

@@NotebookcheckReviews Should be integrated into the video as it is beside the information that the storage is USER-UPGRADEBLE the second most important information. And to be honest most of the viewers won't even read the description of the video, so even less would read the article.

[@xeon2k8]

@@tomsun3159 well you like it or not that's how they traction traffic to their website which i would guess is their main source of income. Which is kinda obvious since he mentions like 5 times to get more details about almost any aspect in the website

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

We simply do not want to make 20 minute videos ;) And while it might be super important for you, doesn't mean it's as important for anybody else! ;) But I listen to your guy's feedback and constantly reevaluate what information we put in our videos! So thank you, for your feedback!

[@tomsun3159]

@@NotebookcheckReviews I think in terms of apples price policy for storage upgrades ther may be a few more persons be interested in that information, as i think its a quite big difference paying for 512 Gb to 2 TB upgrade 690€ or paying 120€ in the aftermarket and get a spare 512 GB Drive. or paying for the 512 GB to 4 TB upgrade 1380€ or paying 240€ in the aftermarket and get a 512 GB spare drive. With less insane upgrade prices from apples side it wouldn't be that kind of discussion. in terms of 8TB drives the difference is slightly smaller in price/TB as there only a few available.

[@kimmane6009]

can you compare this to the dell xps 15?? Which one is better?

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

If you head over to our written review, you can add the XPS15 to all of our comparison charts. They all have a search underneath, so you can just type in XPS 15 and choose your config. www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-Zenbook-S-14-UX5406-laptop-review-Excellent-everyday-laptop-with-Intel-Lunar-Lake.892978.0.html

[@adriatics.3357]

What about the temps?

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

You will get an idea during our noise samples, and you can find a lot more info in our written review: www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-Zenbook-S-14-UX5406-laptop-review-Excellent-everyday-laptop-with-Intel-Lunar-Lake.892978.0.html

[@vasudevmenon2496]

Alex have you noticed AMD ryzen counterparts running hotter on Asus, Lenovo etc due to power manager or driver? I disabled Lenovo PM task and it seems to have improved peak, idle and steady performance offering better battery runtime on 8840HS ThinkPad p14s g5. The only issue with slower fan response causing 96C when moving from passive to active fan even with graphite pad once the fans start the temps drop to 75-80c on balanced mode. On performance mode it pushes temps to 90C but only brings in 1-2% on a 40W

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

We haven't done any testing in this regard.

[@vasudevmenon2496]

@@NotebookcheckReviews I've noticed the same driver being the issue from ryzen 5000 to 8000 series. Ryzen AI 300 isn't available in India but i think it's using same driver

[@mahirvuppula4120]

Do you know when the grey or black colour will be available, if possible could you reach out to asus and ask

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Unfortunately, we do not have this information, and Asus is a little weird about the availability of certain colors in different markets.

[@SULFURIOUS]

Ok, now instead of Macbook Pro 14 (M3 Pro CPU) I am considering this... Tho i am very afraid of low

[@JunaidHasan23]

TSMC helping Intel stay alive.

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

😅

[@youngfigaro]

For $300 more is it worth getting the Asus Zenbook 14 Pro Oled (13th i9/4070)?

[@systemBuilder]

These are desktops pretending to masquerade as laptops. If you don't mind burnt thighs and being plugged into the wall 24/7 then a 13th gen with a 4070 on a clearance price might be acceptable. I had a macbook pro 2019 6 core Intel processor and it sucked so much power that it died even while plugged in @95w apple oem charger (streaming a meeting). The next time I buy Intel is never!

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

@systembuilder this is hardly a fair comparison. @youngfigaro I really enjoyed the Zenbook Pro, and if you can make use of the Nvidia card, be it for work or games, it might be worth it! Have you seen our review: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rHKamXahbJiDpM0si=XmLzYXESPKoql0KE

[@systemBuilder]

My comments are valid. If gaming is your main purpose by all means get the 4070 beast but dont expect it to behave much like a laptop because its just an LSO (laptop shaped object) sacrificing battery life, weight, and usability actually on your lap.

[@coprilettodelnapoli5466]

​@@systemBuilderyou are comparing oranges with apples

[@gehtdinichtsan309]

regarding the keyboard: i don't like the fact they made the return key just a 1-row in height. in my office i occasionally have to work on an hp-laptop with a similar shaped return key and i regularly find myself hitting '#' instead; quite the annoyance.

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Yeah, it will mess with your muscle memory if you are used to a different layout.

[@Johnny91832]

What kind of touchpad is it? Mechanical, haptic? Why leave out important info.

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Its mechanical. Well, it may not be important for everybody! ;)

[@GaHeezyy]

Seems like a perfect tablet chip. If this comes to the PZ13 I think I’d be a buyer.

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Oh yes, that would be quite something!

[@DT-vc7hd]

It's a really smart offering by Intel that aligns the hardware with the needs of what I believe to be the single largest consumer group. Something that tooks years and intense competition to bring about.

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

They delivered exactly what they promised and what people actually wanted. Let us hope, prices come down a little in the near future!

[@sungk3962]

They will be releasing ArrowLake soon so...

[@mxd5273]

If only Lunar Lake would have a 64 GB RAM option. Everything else looks super - a good (enough) performance while finally a near-silent experience.

[@Oxygen.O2]

thanks for the vid!

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

You are more than welcome! Thanks for watching!

[@stefano78]

The webcam image quality of the S14 looks better than the video cam you used for the rest (99%) of this review

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

If you so ;)

[@oleksandrdubyna4173]

I am software developer. Could you try to connect it to Samsung g9 monitor? Will it give at least 100hz in 4k? Thanks a lot!

[@derJackistweg]

1:53 I ve seen just US reports (aka reviews) so far. Asus transfers 1700$ into 2000€? 2 grand is just too much for this category.

[@nhanNguyen-wo8fy]

Well, what concerns me is the Apple level of pricing.

[@乾淨核能]

i don't like lunar lake provides no user replaceble RAM, no 64GB option ATM, and expensive memory like mac m3 m4

[@_bigbro]

does anybody used them in AI tasking? wondering if NPU on Core ultra 256v is comparable to 1050/2050 m-GPU power ? Currently I don't see any advantages on buying laptop even Asus promotes them as AI-powered ones. experts tolds that it would be really hard to run model to utilize both NPU and iGPU at same time.

[@theslimshadyist]

I returned mine because of the blinding keyboard backlight brightness. Even on the lowest setting it way over powered the display.

[@synen]

That can be turned off.

[@metamon2704]

I hope the smaller cpu skus will be available in cheaper laptops. Personally I would never get a €2000 lapotop without dedicated graphics.

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

That's a fair point; let's hope this tech will make its way to lower-end models!

[@crazyelf1]

The big advantage Intel has made is that Intel laptops seem to have caught up with Apple, alongside AMD. That being said losing to AMD',s Zen 5 Strix Point is very disappointing in the battery life contest, but this is one sample size. Maybe AMD has better idle power consumption. The graphics upgrade with Lunar Lake seems to be a major generation update as well. Asus laptops seem to be getting better. We'll see how Asus goes against the competition.

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Exactly. Once we have tested more devices, we will have a much better picture of Lunar Lake's general battery life!

[@manusiaorang2842]

most of the flaws of this chipset is caused by the silly gpu driver

[@djayjp]

Agreed re conclusion: we need strong ST cpu perf, great efficiency, battery life, and a beefy GPU 👍

[@szaboaz]

I was almost tempted by the AMD 370 but Lunar Lake looks more silent (or I am an Intel snob, idk). If they offered a fanless version (5-7W CPU usage) with a 16' screen, that would be my ideal laptop. Those two fans frighten me, to be honest, why do you need that much active cooling for dissipating 20W... or is it really the GPU that would be capped seriously without them?

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Well, the Core Ultra can go beyond 20W in the Zen book, so I would assume that to keep both the internal and chassis temperatures in check, you might just be better off with an active cooling solution. From what we have been told, Lunar Lake performs quite well in the 10-17W range, which would translate to somewhere between the Zenbooks Whisper and Standard mode. Theoretically, it should be possible to call that passively.

[@szaboaz]

@@NotebookcheckReviews Thanks. If we can have the best of both worlds, and enjoy the silence with passive cooling for most of the time, while utilising real performance by tolerating a little whoosh, then I'm all for it.

[@systemBuilder]

If you want to do any code development get the Zen5 S16 you'll benefit a lot from the 20-24 threads in pmake .. I own a Zenbook hx365 and here is why the fans are large. The laptop is too danged thin and tries to suck air in through the speakers and push out above the keyboard through TINY holes! A thicker laptop like the vivobook or zephyrus can suck air in through the sides and spit heat out the sides, but the S16 is just too thin for that more efficient ventilation setup ... When you are gaming the GPU is taking roughly 2/3rds of the power. The reason GPUs are getting faster now is that CPU power efficiency is causing them to SIP power which is then GUZZLED by the GPU ...

[@mk2b662]

I would have liked to see a real-time gameplay sequence against amd. Also this pc has a beautiful design

[@ÁguiaDoSenhor]

In other word's: Lunar lake is on arrival.

[@xxstandstillxx]

My disappointment with Intel Qualcomm and AMD for these new mobile CPUs is not that they are bad they are exactly what was needed. It is the price if they wanted an m1 moment 4 years later they needed to have these launch in 500$ notebook and below. Apple has m1 and M2 notebooks at cheaper prices than what we are seeing today. There selling battery life as a premium feature. They will get this with a trickle down effect. And I am sure the bean counters did the math. It was better to not rule this years back to school like so they can try to finish the stock of 10th gen laptops before Intel stops supporting them

[@herrspitz6964]

Very good comparison! The best so far. I am a bit disappointed in the multitask capabilities in Lunar Lake. So i think i will get a HX 370 as soon as available for ThinkPads -_-.

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Fair point, I am looking forward to that T14s with Strixpoint!

[@systemBuilder]

I ended up buying the Asus S16 although I've been a ThinkPad buyer all my life! Thinkpads have uniformly terrible sound. Thinkpads generally have mediocre to okay displays. I got the Asus laptop for the superb OLED screen and the incredible 6-speaker sound and the 16" size for programming ... But I wish it were made by Lenovo with their outstanding repair manuals & plentiful spare parts!

[@herrspitz6964]

@@systemBuilder I will use the ThinkPad also for programming purposes but i am on Linux and i want hardware that works 100% with all supported drivers even the fingerprint sensor. 😂 Sure i used a Dell and even a Razer Blade with a 3080 but in the end the bad drivers made my experience in using them worse than it should be.

[@rishuji2698]

​@@herrspitz6964in future I also want to use Linux I am a beginner will you tell me which brand to go for so that all Linux drivers are compatible with hardware please suggest me good brand acc to your experience.

[@bruceparker3139]

still the point/ watt efficiency is poor compared to Apple but definitely an improvement against past intel chips

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Definitely, Apple still has the immense advantage of being able to develop and tune hardware and software in-house, and it will be very hard, if not impossible, for the Windows side to deliver a similar experience.

[@jphdd1990]

Je l’ai commandé , livraison vendredi ! Sûrement un bon pc portable , suffisamment puissant pour 99% des utilisateurs , si la puissance venait à manqué , c’est qu’il ne fallait pas acheter un 14 pouces qui est à la base fait pour la mobilité avant tout chose ! Bravo Intel , les lunar lake sont très bien !!!

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Enjoy your new notebook!

[@LAVutube]

I dont want expenise high end cpu in lap i want just core ultra 5 series 2 with 50 series gpu.

[@systemBuilder]

Its a weird set of games to benchmark try : GTA V, Cyberpunk 2077, Red Dead Redemption 2, Starfield, PUBG, CS2, DOTA2/LoL. Some of these are horrible on ARC ...

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

We use most of the same games for all of our reviews to be able to compare performance. It wouldn't make sense to pick only those that do well on any platform. And some of the games that you mentioned, we didn't test ...

[@westfield90]

A little disappointed in the lack of improvement in performance. I’m hoping the desktop cpu is much more impressive than the current 14th gen cpus.

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Well you do get a lot of additional performance in the GPU department which was the focus next to efficiency for this architecture. The desktop chips, will have a very different focus, I am sure.

[@abdulmohsencontent2590]

Great video but you didn't mention what comes in the box.

[@potsatajaja]

Nobody cares. Why even ask? What do you think comes in the box?

[@abdulmohsencontent2590]

@@potsatajaja As a start, a pen would be excellent for students or extra dongles for people who multitasks or a sleeve cover for travelers. I do sorry this inappropriate behavior of yours because bullying disabled who have tiny much of brain cells like you ain't okay.

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Guys, keep it civil. You get your 65W charger and a pretty nice sleeve, that I also showed in the video!

[@abdulmohsencontent2590]

@@NotebookcheckReviews Oh, my bad I did not notice. but thank your the best 🙏🏼

[@petrm2234]

if you just switch off laptop, it will keep battery better. Laptop should work, if it works worse it is worse

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

I am not quite sure what you mean, tbh!

[@AChannelINeed]

A “review”. The screen is ultra reflective and not even reaching 400 nits. Not a word

[@samwise8731]

Something doesn't add up.

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

In what way?

[@MadalinIgnisca]

Gonna be great to use it with Arch Linux 😅

[@gaminginstilllife9429]

AMD ai 300 is the only way to go, im getting the same batt life at work that i got from snapdragon that i returned cause it do t run my work app... vonage

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

The only problem with Strixpoint is the general availability, or well the lack thereof.

[@gaminginstilllife9429]

@@NotebookcheckReviews I ordered from. Bestbuy

[@petrm2234]

@@NotebookcheckReviews it is temproary, because others manufactured just presented their laptops, asus had unique possibility for deliver new amd for some months

[@systemBuilder]

Asus has the exclusive rights to strix point until october ...

[@akin242002]

Intel Lunar Lake laptop 💻 pros: - Single core CPU performance - Battery life - iGPU performance - RAM speed - Adjustable SSD - Type A port. Cons: - Multi-core CPU performance is mediocre for a new laptop in 2024.

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Pretty much sums it up, but having more multi-core performance will hurt efficiency, so you need to compromise somewhere ...

[@akin242002]

@NotebookcheckReviews I like it. Plus, I prefer a snappy laptop with good to great battery life. Leave the heavy-duty workloads for desktops if someone doesn't have to travel frequently for work. For those with a CPU heavy workload and needs to travel for work, I like: - Lenovo Yoga Pro 9i - M3 Max 16-inch - Asus Zenbook S16 with the recent Ryzen AI 9 HX 370.

[@IvoPavlik]

9:12 Why are there so few models with AMD CPUs? They look like a good fit for me (a lot of MT performance), but all I can see are overpriced Asus models everywhere 😕

[@jeffreywong5112]

I like Asus until they have warranty issues.

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Ever had problems personally?

[@jeffreywong5112]

​@@NotebookcheckReviews none from my previous laptops. But I'm afraid if something happens they will do the run around until I get frustrated and give up. I don't want to throw away money and time if I get in that situation.

[@froschfreak1699]

No GPU comparison with Apple Silicon Lineup? 😎 That is what I am waiting for. An ARM based Windows laptop with comparable iGPU performance to Apples Pro, Max or Ultra chips to get rid of my shitty x86 RTX Lenovo crap. It is now three years after Apple released their Silicon Chips and still nothing usable under Windows for serious 3D without dedicated GPU and last century x86 steam technology. 😂

[@TalynOne]

Too expensive for a laptop with no discrete GPU

[@NotebookcheckReviews]

Fair enough.