Aswan Quarry, Pompey's Pillar [in 4K]

[@jerrymiller2346]

I have seen numerous videos (dozens upon dozens) on Egypt, various sites, even seen your guide in many other peoples videos, but this is the only (that I know of) of a video of the Aswan Quarry! Thanks! It is often mentioned, in regards to the extraordinary distance to quarry and then move to Alexandria and elsewhere, however they never show the quarry itself! Thanks!

[@shaneanderson1036]

same ! fantastic detail

[@SpaldingFraser]

Just HAD to say how refreshing it is to have these history/mystery vids presented without an opinion on how and why. You give the facts without the guesses and I appreciate it so much so you have leaped Ben,Brien etc to put yourself up there as the most interesting least hero KZbinr I watch. Thank you so much for doing an excellent job.

[@enigmasoftheancientworld5245]

Thank you for your very kind comment. I try to leave things open, so people can decide what they think. My goal is just to help create an awareness of the probability that we have a lot of things wrong, and eventually this will force a full legitimate reconsideration of our past. I don't see myself as being in a competition with other guys doing the same, there are much faster and better editors than me. I learned a lot from Brien, he's a lovely guy and was very generous with his time with me and I respect his opinions. He has created so much awareness of this topic. Ben is also a friend and while I haven't seen any of his videos (at the moment I'm trying to minimize other people's theories and ideas slipping into my mind) I'm sure his videos are stuffed full of solid facts you can apply to your own ideas. This was really nice to read though, and when I get back to the US next month I'm going to push another 15 or so videos by the end of January. I'm just glad someone likes them 😂👍

[@darko4608]

Thanks for the video, it is excellent and gives a chance to think analytically about how it was all made. To me it seems obvious that the scoop marks were made with a low force tool, possibly hand driven, after softenning the stone somehow. Some studies identify acids etc which are able to soften/liquify a stone....

[@al2207]

@@darko4608 no , cannot be done by hands , the only thing that can dissolve granite is hydrofluoric acid , you should consider aliens energy tools that can turn granite into sand

[@eggshellgoesgaming]

The scoops are most interesting. What I notice is that each scoop appears to be about the same dimension, slightly wider at the surface and narrowing the deeper it goes. No solid-tip tool would do this unless wearing down, but then they would start with an entirely new tool for the next scoop - not too likely. Otherwise, wear aside, the tool would have to be one huge wedge-shaped and flexible scoop for it to curl up and under the 2nd obelisk - does not seem likely since there would be little accuracy between scoops. Also there are no horizontal marking as you get with each impact on a chisel-type tool, so each scoop is a single pass. I can't even imagine how the waste material was removed from the cut as it was being made. The smooth finish denotes one of 3 things: 1) High temperature melting the rock, 2) high frequency oscillation, or 3) other. Since there is no sign of slag I would lean toward #2.

[@gabrieldee345don5]

I can feel your emotion and admiration in your voice.

[@freelifetas1252]

The main thing I notice all throughout the quarry is there are a lot of places where excess stone has been removed. If you had to remove it with pounding stones, it would take that long that you would be careful not to remove more than necessary. Definitely done with some kind of technology that could remove the stone very quickly.

[@steviechampagne]

humans had the ability to interact with stone differently than today. todays present earth conditions are very dense and rigid, in ancient times the atmosphere was lighter and perhaps the mineral kingdom was more fluid than today

[@ideatree_adventures]

>> Really enjoying your videos and the 'insider look' we get with these special permission trips. Great job! I read through the comments and noticed no one was talking about the amazing footage of the small room and possible tunnel opening underneath the 're-located' Pompey's Pillar - 9:40 - As the camera goes in I'm immediately drawn to the glyphs on the larger upper stone, (deeper and of a higher quality?) as well as the straight line carved across the top with the above section looking like a possible damaged ceiling... this stone also has damage on the right side and face. Very interesting. Underneath this stone are what look like three stones, one on either side and one in the center. Recently I watched another video with Yousef Awyan as the guide, he talked about 'plug blocks' and how they were used in the pyramids and how the plug block was removed to gain access to the kings chamber. I have never seen one intact, but this is what this reminds me of. Secret room, the glyphs, the possible tunnel opening! All under the re-located Pompey's Pillar in Alexandria. Wow! Again great job on these videos! Seeing more than we've ever seen. Thanks!

[@redwoodcoast]

Check this out...I wrote it today and will now have to revise it a bit to reflect what is seen in this video. Is Pompey’s Pillar Hollow? (Probably) sciencetheory.wordpress.com/2020/06/25/is-pompeys-pillar-hollow-probably/

[@cloudrun654]

I wonder how uniform the scoop edges are. Are they a random width, or are they precisely uniform?

[@rogerscottcathey]

Some machine had to have deep footing anchors, hence the holes. A pendulum chisel and crane wouldn't want to drift after rebounding from progressive swings at the bedrock. Those buckets with holes could be used as lubricated swivel sockets for placing the crane. Levers lifting levers.

[@hendrix923]

They could have been for securing feet for very large tripods. Theres some great videos in regards to Coral Castle and tripods. U used one to build a larger one and so on until u could lift very large weights. 100 foot plus tripod.

[@robertgotshall6339]

Great details and overview of/in the quarry, Luke. Excellent.

[@george8920]

it looks like some kind of tool was used on the stone - almost like an ice cream scoop scooping out soft ice cream

[@alloneword7427]

I've been looking into this, and it look like these marks were made using a mixture of methods, but heat being a main method. Splitting is different, with water soaked wood or even rope being used, but these scoop marks looks like a mix of heat that then degrades the integrity of the granite, causing it to crack and flake. Pounding then would be a lot easier. Even flint can work granite very well.

[@BrOnX_BoOyAH_86]

I thought the same thing

[@rapi-rapi]

Hi there, I went with Brien, Yousef etc in April just came across your video now. I wanted to ask what camera equipment are you using? Because I only used my phone (had too much confidence in it) and my lighting was way off so alot of dark areas came out poor. Great documenting it's so professional!!

[@AtkinsAtelier]

Great video! Those stepped lines in the second unfinished slab are blowing my mind.

[@hawkeye1370]

Very interesting tool marks in the stones, it's so baffling what could have made those marks, it just seems to be impossible to have been done with hand tools. Looking at the second obelisk, that just has to be impossible to cut that much solid granite out around it manually, very interesting video.

[@caseyalexander1705]

Any construction project must have tools EQUAL to the task. “Christopher Dunn” Clearly they had the tech to extract these objects and pick them up and place where ever they chose, along with the fact they could do it without damaging in transit. Today we would have cleared paths for cranes to sit flush for a lift of this size but it appears they had a method of picking directly up without any worry of the surrounding topography. The engineers were 10x more clever than us. Thanks for the 2nd obelisk... HUGE clues with that tool pattern.

[@al2207]

or simply they had better tools and construction equipment like anti-gravity lifting pods and desintegrator CNC cutting tools

[@leemaples1806]

I can imagine the high level of detail thats been weathered away over the last so many thousand years.

[@armandsbernaus5260]

How old is that site? Are there any surface exposure datings done there to determine how long granite surfaces have been exposed to atmosphere? This method is used succesfuly to date retreat of glaciers at the end of Ice Age. It should also work on exposed granite quarry surfaces.

[@derekhughes9274]

I have no idea how it was done. It looks like someone us using a wood gouge in balsa wood. Long smooth strokes. Truly awsome.

[@springbloom5940]

To begin with, they didnt have a bunch of 6' fat guys in the hole. They used a lot of child labor.

[@mattr5831]

Thank you for this informative video. I think The "second obelisk" was going to be a seated "Ramses" statue. ( I put Ramses in quotations because I don't think he was capable of doing this.) As seen with a satellite. It's not the shape of a obelisk. They must have had some machine that could erode the rock away. Like a sand blaster. They would first flatten the rock. Then do the perimeter, using vertical cuts. Then change the tip angle to do the undercut. They made the lower pass. And then stopped in the middle of the second pass. The last cut they made is seen here at 31:25. They would have moved their machine over about two feet to make the next cut. But the work stopped. We need a microscopic view of the rock to see if it has been sand blasted. Also, I heard there are jars of diamond grit that was found in the quarry, in some museum. The unfinished obelisk has this same witness mark/step.

[@trevorgough2286]

Bloody fascinating..more please..hi from the UK 😎

[@jimdonaghy422]

I polish stone. I polish granite. In order to get a polished stone you must have a flat surface to start from and build up to the desired level. In the Serapeum, the boxes are a t a high level bond 500-grit. I would say they are close to 1500-1800 or more. When you start grinding any stone, to flatten it, you must crosshatch or go north-south & then east to west with each level. From what I see in quarry, the level would have started at 30-grit to 60 to 120 to 220 to 400 to 800 then 1500 or 1800 even. In some cases these polishing are beyond 1800 and go to 3000-grit. This is a mechanical shine. Today, nobody pays for this level of shine on hard stone because it is so expensive due to labor & materials. What is used as far as machinery would be with the use of electrical motors in the range of 5-20 HP meaning you would need 240V/30 amp or even 480V/30amp. I would like to know how this was accomplished on granite, cyanite, diorite or any other hard stone by hand. Puzzles me to no end.

[@ericpilkington6298]

Yousef explains in one video that some chemical seems to have been used to polish in seapeum.

[@jimdonaghy422]

@@ericpilkington6298 You'll never get the flatness over the entire surface with a chemical evenly. Maybe as an end polish but not for cutting to get the edges as produced in the tops. Too many exact angles to control the chemical.

[@ericpilkington6298]

@@jimdonaghy422 yes i agree. It is very weird

[@chriskelly2939]

Could it be those tight vertical “test pits” are anchoring points for whatever huge machine was used? are they equal distance from one another in a square pattern?

[@deelove6899]

Thanks for showing the quarry. Amazing!

[@marcin1699]

Very informative footage & commentary! You definitely deserve more subs & views, keep this up! One question though, where the hell are all the scooped pieces of the granite, have anyone seen those? Or where these pulverized/evaporated/dissolved during the process (which probably was high-temperature/plasma based or involved dissolving agents)?

[@Surtac100]

Something they had could make the stone soft enough to scoop out.

[@stanlee2200]

@@Surtac100 YES AND HES ASKING WHERE THOSE SCOOPED OUT PIECES ARE AS THEY MIGHT HELP UNDERSTANDING THE METHOD.

[@Rabeea09]

mind-blowing video ... WOW thanks alot for sharing its just outstanding how they managed to do this just no words.

[@Surtac100]

If the people were smart enough to build these crazy structures, they were smart enough to have the right tools for the job and it wasn't no caveman rock. Cavemen use rocks for tools not the PYRAMID builders!

[@tdawgt5866]

Exactly! They have to foresight to desire and genius to build massive stone monuments but scientist says they don’t have to foresight and genius to make the tools to build them.

[@bustarogers9990]

Loving your videos mate , just letting you know the sound is all over the place.

[@surreycpr]

If we believe the mainstream theories around cutting and quarrying Granite from Aswan you have to realise that the Quarry would have been useless, simply due to the length of time to process one block, imagine the quarry master saying - "You'll have to wait whilst they cut the Obelisk"!. Quite simply if the Ancient Egyptians hadn't had the tools and techniques to Quarry the rock relatively easily and in a sensible time frame, they simply would not have bothered. The Obelisk, with the scoop marks to obviously visible, gives me the feeling that using some kind of highly efficient method we are looking at a days work that went wrong, so they simply left that piece and moved on - who's to say that the Obelisk that was finally cut is not busied in the sand somewhere.

[@markwilliams5654]

You can separate grit size by shaking and banging the largest grit will rise to the top and the fine dust collects at the bottom you don't need a mesh .....but I have no idea how they made the columns and polished them is it optically flat

[@ZiggyDan]

Great series, baffling and informative!

[@travisd.2214]

The holes, I believe, were test holes to determine the quality and composition of the rock in that area. As for how this was done... Even with modern tools it would be difficult. Though there is evidence of mechanical machining. I think that may have been more recent than whatever the original builders used. Some type of directed energy. Same goes for moving them. Great video! Thank you!

[@travisd.2214]

@Bimmer man Im not so sure "gravity" is the force holding us down. I am thinking its possibly something more electromagnetic. Its a lot easier to manipulate that with known tech. 😉 But yes I agree.

[@vitali841]

how about a pole with a stone attached on its end, it's possible that 2 people pound together and once in a while extract the stone chips

[@ericpilkington6298]

regarding the pit at 4:40.. The person working is not needing only to turn the stone in circle around him, he needs to pound where his feet are at the bottom to get deeper.

[@leghunter9201]

No, he was suspended by his feet from a wooden scaffold and his co workers were rotating him as he worked.

[@ebayerr]

That was enthralling.

[@hillwalker8741]

soften and scoop method explains many things - among them quarrying, shaping polishing and plastering. If we just knew the softening technique. That is simple compared to transportation

[@ricktodd3808]

Awesome video quality!

[@ThomiX0.0]

You're doing a great job!

[@RurikLoderr]

Wait.. I think the pounding stones were used to determine the sound of the stone. Frequency changes with composition and size.

[@ayepweakly3564]

Wow GREAT chanel found watching another great chanel TKS!!!

[@dazuk1969]

You make a great point at the start...conventionally, we are told that the Egyptians "foraged" loose pieces of granite on ground level to create the wonderful things we see today. Any stonemason worth his salt will tell you that you need to go down into the bedrock to find granite of a good enough quality to work. The bits and pieces you find on the surface are very poor quality and mainly of no use for carving.....Peace.

[@arguekayes]

27:50 they look like waves Almost like there repetative for each ripple, each one is pretty even, similar like a copy and far apart from one another, same bumps N lumps in the same places, its also interesting how the ripples get like a foot or so wide to less than half that size but stay the exact same waves on a 180 degree curve kinda like that whole right side you guys were in was taken out in one go or atleast in chunks

[@mgentleman1]

The Romans managed to build a sort of wooden A frame contraption to pound piles into riverbeds for bridges. If you built a fire then quenched with water or vinegar then pound with one of these type of machines you would chew through the granite pretty quickly. The bottom of your "piler" could have a bronze spike or something in it to help break the granite up.

[@matthewalger2446]

It's fascinating how those "scoop" marks actually look like huge chisel marks, as if Giants were the quarry masters of old. What's a 2 ton stone to a 17 ft tall Titan?

[@TheBubblybobby]

I think youd have to be 30 ft anyways lol :)

[@hunnedproofproductions5529]

Absolutely. A lot of the natives that aren’t part of the tourist business, will tell you straight up it was the gods and giants of ancient times. But of course, “scientists” and “archeologists” will only dismiss it as mythology.

[@leebatchelor2908]

Interestingly, if you pause the video at 32' 11'' then compare the 'scoop' marks on the left (the 'step' looking marks) with the 'chiseled down' marks on the right, isn't this the same [machine] tool but from a 90° angle????

[@cyphermote6857]

Hi Luke... thanks for the interesting videos - love your unassuming style. I would love to be part of the special permissions tour ... but cannot make the Feb 2020 one ... is there one planned for the end of 2020 ? Thanks

[@njm3211]

Very interesting. I'm in the, done by hand by patient and intelligent workers that had decades at their disposal, camp. No need for exotic "lost technology" in my opinion. They certainly knew the material they were working with had developed techniques over generations.

[@al2207]

never work with your hands to say such funny comment ?

[@coryCuc]

18:22 What's crazy is if you get down on the side of the unfinished obelisk, you can measure the distance between the raised edges of the scoop marks to the raised edges of the scoop marks next to it, so on and so forth, and they ALL have the same distance. That's impossible to do with hand tools.

[@stuartburns8657]

Are you a lost ancient technology believer then?

[@coryCuc]

@@stuartburns8657 Thanks for your statement...I mean question ;). I'm a "we don't know everything and an open-minded kinda guy." Are you an ancient civilization know-it-all then?

[@stuartburns8657]

@@coryCuc Not at all Cory. I suspect like you I share a sense of awe at what our ancestors achieved, but I refuse to believe in the lost tech yarn. Seen a few of the UnchartedX vids, and what comes to mind is the old saying(s): 1. Follow the money. 2. BS baffles brains. 1. He's popular so earns ad revenue + Patreon money. 2. He presents biased (cut down) quotes and Tailor picked 'evidence' for the so called precision engineering. I personally think it's insulting to them.

[@coryCuc]

@@stuartburns8657 If you have an open mind you wouldn't rule out the "lost tech yarn." You don't want to possibly be seen hundreds or thousands of years from now as seen as one of those people who used to believe the world was flat, right? ;). All I'm saying is I'm not ruling anything out. We learn new things about our universe, physics, astrology, particle theory, consciousness, and a million other things every day. I choose to keep an open mind. The minute you start ruling things out because it seems stupid or illogical, then you'll never go where the evidence could lead. I don't know how Uncharted x got brought into this (I can't see the above comments for some reason) but he simply examines what he sees, what he reads, analyzes the evidence according to how he sees it and draws his conclusions from that. Archeology and anthropology and the study of ancient people, things, civilizations is exactly that. Gathering evidence and drawing conclusions from that evidence. He chooses to believe in ancient technology. Maybe he's right. Maybe he's not. But you, nor I, or him for that matter know for 100% sure.

[@stuartburns8657]

@@coryCuc LOL, I'm certainly not a flat earther Cory, ekk :( Open minded, a touch but THAT open, not for me. I've watched too much experimental archaeology to believe in the more 'out there' theories, but equally I agree that even with EA, well never truly know, and a good mystery never hurts. Regarding UnchartedX. Something about that channel really grates on me, mostly because he's extracting money from those willing to believe, without challenging himself to look at other sources of potential reasoning. Nice having a civil chat Cory, you take care now 🙏

[@crumbston]

@3:23 My guess would be a large pounding machine similar to a seesaw with a large hard rock at one end and counter balanced at the other. A heavy duty wooden rig which could be setup to pound at various angles, the operators would simply apply their own weight and strength to one end and let gravity do the heavy pounding at the other.

[@TheMoneypresident]

That and a thirty foot high pendulum with large rock swinging.

[@JesseP.Watson]

Neither of these suggested mechanisms would produce a signature with the qualities exhibited. The idea of a workmen using a large see-saw with counter weight to assist his own motive force is flawed - counterweights don't work like that - such a mechanism would require the workman to lift the counterweight and therefore no energy is saved. Pounding at various angles is a floored concept, extremely heavy footings and highly engineered bearings on the axes would be required to swing a heavy armature sideways efficiently. Pendulums, again, provide no increased efficiency to the worker. All these mechnisms require external motive force otherwise the workmen are losing efficiency in the application of their muscle power, not gaining it. Also, bigger hammers do not pound THROUGH things faster than small hammers, au contraire. Big hammers require more force because they strike a larger surface area. A small hammer will therefore hit at a higher velocity and strike a smaller area meaning they are a more effective tool often for chipping functions. In other words: Big hammers drive along... small hammers drive through.

[@legpol]

The Pompey's pillar at 10:46 shows that it is covered with a layer of cement. What was the whole pillar made of? Where did the ancient Egyptians get the ashes to make that cement?

[@thorpeenith3436]

It's so hard for us modern humans to be skeptical of the results of tens and tens of thousans of laborers chipping away at these projects for years and years. There is a chain of literature connecting us to the ancient Egyptians, and there is absolutely nothing suggesting there was any modern "machines" in the archeology.

[@gerardhilde01]

Very interesting video. I want to add a comment regarding the pits and the unfinished obelisk. The test pits, to check the quality of the granite, are indeed too small to stand in and remove material out of it. But it can be done when the person was hanging with his legs upside down! The horizontal scoop marks have the size that his arms could reach. Advanced technology is not needed than in my opinion, just hard work and suffering. Maybe the same was done with the obelisk that was not finished. In these days people had the time on their side. In my opinion they worked like ants without getting payed. Just get it done!

[@enigmasoftheancientworld5245]

You know it's interesting that I actually thought about the upside down method. I dismissed it because you'd really have to change guys every minute or two, but who knows, it's a better theory than the official story.

[@alloneword7427]

Doing physical work in that position would damage you internally over time. Your heart would suffer, you can damager your lungs as they are above your internal organs for a reason etc etc It would be an inefficiant way of working.

[@johncurtis920]

Intriguing. Here's what gets me. Early on in this video it was shown that a liquid substance must have been used to establish a high polish and sheen on stone. This is based on the drip marks on the underside of the stone casing and lids. So since this clearly seems the case with establishing a high burnish to the stone what are the odds that they also used a similar type of substance to soften the hard granite and such? Soften it to a degree where they would be able to scoop out the impacted stone rather than pound on it? How could this have been done? I'll give a snide one word conjecture; Chemistry. What gets me is that in this video the scoop marks are everywhere. The guide continually points to them and says "scoop marks." Well for cripes sake HOW WERE THEY MADE?!!? The evidence is right before the eyes of the people who are there. Whoever it was that did all of this clearly had the ability to manipulate stone as if it were a putty! The ability to put the stone into a state that made it easy to manage, mold and manipulate. Clearly they had a refine knowledge of chemistry as it relates to the working with stone. The evidence for this is in all the remains we now see. Man what we wouldn't give for the formula of the substance that did, and does, this, eh? Whatever it was, given the ubiquity and similarity in stone megalithic structures sprinkled all over this planet, it must have been a process - a chemistry - commonly known and shared, much as the ability to build skyscrapers has become common today. At least among those who thought of themselves as civilized. So whoever (re) invents it in our world today I guarantee you this. They will become an instant begillionaire won't they? John~ American Net'Zen

[@ian-c.01]

Granite is not porous so a chemical would only affect the surface, also if they used the same potion that was used to polish the surface of other blocks, wouldn't the scoop marks be polished ? I agree, something was used to manipulate the stone to make it soft enough to scoop out like that but we can only guess as to how it was done.

[@hilarysimpson3725]

Dobyou have a view about the use of water glass lenses to melt granite?

[@Fourth4Element]

Rock was scooped with some kind of hot or vibrating wire?

[@enigmasoftheancientworld5245]

I discussed the wire technique with Yousef, I've watched some Russian videos on it and clearly it's workable if they were able to generate the vibration.

[@ultraviolentray627]

The scoop marks look like it was made from a specialized excavator with a concrete grinder attachment but smoother than what we have currently. Kat must be installing flux capacitors on their future models. If so: time traveling excavator quote wanted. I need to get a granite garage made.

[@birnenaugustbirnenaugust321]

The liquid, that softened the granite could be an organic acid...an pyrite compound. Fools gold. A reddish-brown liquid, that once heaten up could make stones soft. I saw it on KZbin explaining how constructions in Peru could have been done.

[@al2207]

no, the only thing that dissolve granite is hydrofluoric acid , other acid will dissolve limestone

[@birnenaugustbirnenaugust321]

@@al2207 ok...thanks. maybe you know something about foolsgold acidic characteristics?

[@al2207]

@@birnenaugustbirnenaugust321 not as such but pyrite is FE.S s for sulphur if you add water and oxygen an heat you can made sulphuric acid H2SO4 , is it what you mean ?

[@MrRichMurphy]

The guide you had. I have seen in a lot of videos. Was he very hard to get? Does he have his own site? He should think about making some videos. He doesn’t seem like the type to make himself the focus of the videos. Like a lot of people seem to do. That make them hard to watch. You do a great job as well. Would rather look at pictures of strange stuff then someone trying to get film time.

[@thephilosopherofculture4559]

"Scoopmarks". Into granite!! We can't do that even today. We are talking technology that softens stone locally. The real question is why governments and religious leaders are forcing 'scientists' to tell all that stuff and nonsense to us. What is their motive? Not one single priest or historic scientist believes what he says. Why are they doing that? That is the question.

[@ramonloeffen4381]

Because knowledge is power

[@thephilosopherofculture4559]

@@ramonloeffen4381 Yes, but that still begs the question, What knowledge would that be? What fives them power when they withhold the knowledge there have been other civilisations operating on Earth before 12000 BCE?

[@ramonloeffen4381]

@@thephilosopherofculture4559 They are controlling the masses more and more through AI, 4/5G, mind control, chemicals in food air and drink. The knowledge that is hidden (occult) from us, is used to tighten our enslavement. Only knowing the truth AKA reality will set us free....

[@TheBubblybobby]

@@ramonloeffen4381 Yah and they havn't got it lol :)

[@abassett22]

@@thephilosopherofculture4559 maybe the knowledge totally destroys religion. That would cripple the world.

[@shaneanderson1036]

thankyou . never seen this before

[@signalfire6]

Your video quality is superior, it would be wonderful if the audio could be closed captioned by a professional and not computer-generated which is not accurate. Yousef's audio is very difficult to make out and what he is saying is important.

[@tpxchallenger]

The holes at the quarry are natural potholes. Fight me or bite me, friends! Seriously, the weird hole he photographed looks like a natural pothole to me. A very old one I agree !

[@BrickWilbur2020]

Great vids. Keep it going!!

[@stephenrafter1022]

I dont know what to say. Was the granite heated up or something to scoop out. I don't know

[@ibmmbi2317]

The granite base foundation on pompeys tower looks weathered but unpolished. I think the serepeum granite blocks are weathered granites and thus could easily be polished until the granite surface is bare.

[@ibmmbi2317]

They grinded the bare granite surface with dolerite flattened blocks together with a certain plant leaf.

[@ibmmbi2317]

The chisseled marks were not ancient but made during ptolemic times.

[@ibmmbi2317]

The obelisk were madd during the times of Ptolemic and were left unfinished due to political unrest in the region.

[@ibmmbi2317]

Ancient egypt had no obelisk. Obelisks are only made in the Ptolemic times.

[@ibmmbi2317]

Those arent scoop marks.

[@pcdubya]

Beyond unbelievable and usually there is someone in the comment section of videos that has a plausible explanation, but for this there is none. I personally would think any "machinery" at best would possibly be a telephone pole size beam on a lever of some sort with a harder stone the size of a frisbee attached, that let someone use leverage, to scoop or grind, but at 30:13, it's way too tight of quarters for that, and appears it would have to be hand hammering and grinding like he demonstrates ( slave labor, work or die, probably both ). And the comments of "melting stone" and scooping it out, really? And those deep narrow holes, possibly a tree size "dowel" spun with rope, like a giant fire starting drill , but the hole is almost square ? otherwise a person would almost have to be in there head first. Even modern quarries with wire saws and cranes this would be almost insurmountable, mind boggling stuff.

[@theelectricorigins846]

Good work. May you provide the link of the interview to the stonemasons about polishing methods?

[@enigmasoftheancientworld5245]

I can't atm as I'm traveling and all that info is on my desktop at home. But I found everything with search engines.

[@theelectricorigins846]

@@enigmasoftheancientworld5245 Thank you anyway. I'll retry. You might do it when finnishing your journey. Have a good time!

[@philoso377]

Hardened granites will fracture being scooped. Sculptures and obelisk with hardened granite were abandoned half finished from fractures. The only way to scoop granite is before it was hardened. Those who know how to prepare granite mix in clay texture can scoop or sculpt it first then harden it later. Modern men who don’t know so must use diamond and power tools.

[@al2207]

the normal way granite is formed under continent , pressure and very slow cooling from magma giving time to the crystals to grow at the end the quartz bond everything together , for the scoop mark and precise granite carving can only be done with aliens desintegrator energy cutting tools but aliens had bring back all tools when they left 12900 years ago

[@philoso377]

@@al2207 May be you are right about granite. A good amount of things put up as knowledge from the academia were either misunderstood, convoluted, biased, shifted or combine of above. I can't tell that granite formation they taught is true or false.

[@SetoKaibasMoney]

People who only have pounding stones, at their disposal, are not going to undertake projects that require test pits of this magnitude. The only way this could have been done, without the use of better technology, would be if the people had so much resources that they would be willing to feed a populace that had nothing else better to do than waste their time. A project like this would have gone to those who could get it done quickly and flawlessly. This requires people who have been in the trade and have perfected their skills and tools.....not devolved from them. Also, this looks like a pounding tool. Rotating would have left a circular cut.

[@ericpilkington6298]

yes i agree. Often the ancient work seems to have been extremely time and resource consuming and the end result is often illogical in many ways. However, if its very ancient and the resources was plenty, one can imagine the stuff that could have existed made of wood and ordinary material that is now long gone. So when most of the civilization has vanished, only this extravagant stuff remains. If one imagine their modern city in 10.000 years without human.. what would remain, the ceramics from the kitchens, the foundation of the churches and the nearby quarries.

[@nicolastousignant9160]

I wonder if high pressure water could produce the scoop marks?

[@dienovandale4299]

I've seen tool marks very similar to the scoop marks , when I worked with steel I left these marks when back gouging with oxyacetylene & or carbon arc \air rods . CHEERS

[@ericpilkington6298]

Do you have a link of this. Thanks in advance

[@dienovandale4299]

@@ericpilkington6298 Just my own memories of repairs of done with these processes, but try searching these welding technologies , cheers Eric.

[@ian-c.01]

It's so frustrating to know that we don't know anything about these methods, all we have is observations and theories.

[@Azeraph]

18:35 Why would they go horizontal in their pounding style like they did here? I mean if i had a stone hammer i would go lengthwise. Why the horizontal pattern? Is it because it sets up less disturbance.

[@gerardhilde01]

Maybe they were hanging upside down and pounding with their hands horizontally? If you take a look at the beginning of the video with the test pits , in my opinion, the person was hanging upside down, pounding material away and get lowered all the the time.

[@Azeraph]

@@gerardhilde01 I've done foundation holes down to 2 meters and had to have a mate hold my legs as i clean out the hole which was smaller than those test pits. You can't do much with someone holding your legs. I was really referring to the unfinished obelisks. If you look at them. The scoop pounding traces are horizontal. Not much room to move if someone is pounding right next to you as you bite down further and further. The scoop traces are right next to each other. Where do you stand? 1 guy starts on the opposite wall or side and you start on the other? If each scoop trace is a man pounding that leaves very little room to move. Those scoop traces are not big. There's not a lot of room to move around it.

[@ZipchesterVT]

That dolerite pounder idea is completely ridiculous. A close second is the copper chisel and stone hammer theory.

[@BigWaveDaveO]

2nd obelisk it really interesting. Why is the straight wall smoother than the opposing scooped wall? Then I love the comment about putting the wood down to protect the stone from people walking on it. How long has it been there and how many millions of people have walked on those stones with no ill effect?

[@gabrieldee345don5]

Good. You are right and the mainstream ashamed, Or it should be.

[@essentialjudge2279]

Looks like a large gouge chisel and adze. Exactly the same marks but larger. Watch the vid. Snapping the keel/adze work.

[@ian-c.01]

It's one thing to shape timber with an adze but granite is a bit different

[@andrewjohnston4811]

This video is remarkable as the first to show the Aswan quarry. Clear and definitive evidence of stone extraction and transportation far superior to anything achieved since then and beyond the modern world"s capabilities' That was NOT the work of the bronze age Egyptian civilisation.

[@al2207]

please look at the LAH report from Russian scientist , agree not done by humans , Egyptians only reused what was already existing

[@andrewjohnston4811]

@@al2207 So what you're saying is you agree with my comment

[@al2207]

@@andrewjohnston4811 yes , evidence of extremely advance technologies , extraction shaping sculpting transportation way better than our current civilization

[@lshtar777]

The scoop marks look like the marks that fingers Make in thick mud Or wet clay... the sarapium blocks are capacitors. . . the deep holes are imprints of something that was there and has deteriorated... the obilisk was knocked over by a mud flood and thats why it is cracked... and the surrounding Area where the weaker rock is the petrified mud.

[@lshtar777]

... the pinching of the fingernail and finger tip in the mud trying to pull that obilisk out of the mud.

[@ibmmbi2317]

Those are melted marks. They heat up dolerie boulders til red hot and placed them around the granites. They used copper scoops to removed the melted granites.

[@RickeyBowers]

I wonder what research has been done on chemical methods - using acid of some type? Cover the stone with a protective chemical and then flow acid in to wear away the material. Saying this because the scooping looks like accelerated erosion and the asymmetric weathering at some of the other sites. It would also explain why there are no tools left behind.

[@benjaminstubbs4652]

You should invest in a multi mic setup for trips like this. Having to adjust audio up and down to hear Mr. Awyans isn't fun.

[@enigmasoftheancientworld5245]

Unfortunately in Egypt there is no microphone permission available. You can get one for cameras, video cameras and tripods, but not microphones. Every single time I have connected a visible microphone to my camera, site security shuts me down. Every time.

[@billford5553]

The Sun's rays through a magnifying glass type object to create a beam of incredibly hot rays

[@tomasneel1980]

Concerning that square hole dug deep by hand, when he described a man turning in a hole, nawing away , reminded me of a friend who is a advisor to bear gryls if I spelled his name right, anyhow, he explained a ancient technique that he witness in a tarhuamara village, how they cut down 2 ft thick fir trees in the manner of a dance, 4 or 5 men with stone axes mind you, start a rythyn and a dance around the tree, 20 minutes later it is down... wow.. also how on certain mornings, women at once started honing their metates , by tapping them with a harder stone than dirorite, and chip the surface so it grinds stuff easier. So once a month , you hear this clicking rythym in the canyon from all the women clicking at once... wow... ppl lived in a caring, loving community anciently, all working toward a same purpose, some may have devoted a lifetime, just to hewn out a piece a of stone for a job done with pride and skill

[@DaneJoshuaTree]

Nice video

[@TheBubblybobby]

Watching this stuff drives me crazy ! cause they have no explanations to it and me either lol How even higher tecnologies do it and there is never any tools found that can do it !

[@ibmmbi2317]

They used circular hard black granite blocks 1m in diameter to drill holes into the granites.

[@chrissycherry6089]

Dude I agree with you 100% it’s totally ridiculous I’ve been examining this stuff for years my theory as it is I think somehow they heated up that rock the granite so hot they were actually able to scoop the granite out of there somehow but I think heating the rock has something to do with it melting it somehow there’s just no way that

[@al2207]

no , heating is not the answer , if granite was heated so it was at melting point you will find lot of glassy obsidian glass shard and lot of cutting debris , i think it was aliens civilisation before any '' Egyptians '' they come with theirs standard construction equipment some 20,000 years ago , using desintegrator cutting tectonics that cut by breaking atoms bond ( electrons ) the result is mono atomic sand and smooth scoop surface

[@benjaminantone9962]

Maybe when the rock was removed, it wasn’t rock yet. it was drying mud, not totally solid. Or maybe nobody will ever know

[@coryCuc]

2:14 WTH? This is the first time I've seen a block quarried like this? Just a straight hole in the ground? I can't even get my ice cubes out of it's tray half the time lol.

[@satkinson8281]

*Many many years ago stone was soft like clay, it's taken years and years for it to harden as it is today*

[@al2207]

no , please read on granite formation

[@elliekpayton]

Did you realize you captured one of the "baby stars" - not a lens flare: around 11:00 position.

[@simple8mind8]

This granite formation was not completely solidified yet. The Egyptians had to dig it out. It was covered by an overburden of marine sediments. These sediments had buried the granite sheet as soon as it was put down. The rich carbonates, and carbonic acids from the marine sediments. Impregnated this granite formation. Everytime it rained the rock got harder. Pieces removed would solidify quicker. They used these pieces that had begun to cement. To abrade the softer more plasticine host body. Each man sat in a depression with his chunk of slightly more abrasion resistant granite. They used the harder granite to wear away at the softer. Obviously they either had to abandon work. Or a big rain event made it impossible to work further...

[@simple8mind8]

By the way the marine sediments were present. Because the area used to be a shallow inland sea. The marine sediments comprised of loads of dead Carboniferous marine life. Was also plasticine, and it's how the Egyptians were able to reform the limestone before it hardened. Hardening wouldn't take place until the fossil waters had drained from the shallow sea. The sediments would harden once rain had leached out all the carbonic acids. Also the Egyptians were able to pull a lot out of this quarry. But.. Eventually the rain had it's way. Because they removed so much. What was left upon hardening. Was exposed to too much. And it's kind of like making pottery. You dry it to fast, and it will cleave. However I also suspect a rather strong earthquake played it's part as well. This is evident in some of the megalith constructions nearby. But this phenomenon is not isolated to Egypt.. Other societies starting at this same time. Found similar conditions, and this is how the ancients we able to build with stone. It wasn't quite stone yet. Instead it was like ready made natural concrete. That they could just cart it away. And reshape it. Then just let it set naturally.. We have trouble comprehending this. Because we imagine the same geologic dynamics that are at play today we're present. But that's not the case. After the global flood there were completely different dynamics at play. Sediments that sat under fossil waters. For example in a shadow inland sea. Couldn't harden until the water drained. And fresh rain water was able to leach the carbonic acid from the sediments. All sedimentary rock formed after the flood. And any igneous rock that was buried by these sediments. Could not solidify until it went through a proud of exposure. During this time the land was still being sculpted. Overburdens of sediments were being carved out. By the new runoff channels being created. This likely exposed the buried igneous rock formations. The igneous rock was in a unique situation. It was not hot, and it was semi-plasticine. We don't see this today. Because the conditions aren't right..

[@al2207]

please read about granite formation , 2 keys very slow cooling and pressure needed to give time for the crystals to grow

[@Barbreck1]

A simple stone shard attached to a piece of timber and drawn back and forth along a rail by men in a straight line is essentially a machine, so I don't see why we need to give it any more mysticism than that. Very high finishes can be wroguht from surfaces by using ever-finer grits which are the produce of the work itself. The evidence of liquid is a clue that some kind of slurry has been used in the finishing polish. No big deal.

[@Barbreck1]

@NEAR TERM EXTINCTION - HUMAN I'm not so sure our history was 'fabricated' so much as simply misinterpreted or incomplete. After all, it only takes one small discovery to overturn an entire establishment of prior thought. For instance, We've been told for decades that the universe is only 13.7Billion years old, which precludes that if we l can observe back to that time, we should see a very different kind of universe, where there are no galaxies or cosmological structures, perhaps only very ancient stars floating around as lonely sentinals in a dispersed sea of ancient stars and black holes. And yet, that's not what is observed. Instead we see more galaxies, more structure, more evidence of exactly the same structures we have around us. This single discovery turns Big Bang theory on its head. As for the age of the pyramids, that's very easily determined by analysing the paint used on the interior walls or artefacts found among the rubble. One thing that does stand out is the damage to them. Either someone had gunpowder and a will to damage them, or some cataclysm like a major impact followed by a flood, did the deed. Makes sense to me. A large meteor strike certainly would have vaporised the air, causing scorch damage to rock faces and a following flood would have swep away much of the scorch evidence and damaged structures. I do find though that some of the suppositions made by these KZbin archeologists are fanciful tosh.

[@tkcapt]

With such an important and ancient site, why can they not respect it and give it a good dusting every now and again...? Kinda ridiculous.

[@cyphermote6857]

Regular dusting in the desert?

[@tkcapt]

CYPHER MOTE Haha yeah sounds a little ridiculous when you state it that way. I'm talking about the Serapeum boxes. If they are enclosed then I don't see why they couldn't dust them. I would want to see the incredible polish on that box, not a bunch of dust. The whole point is to see that polish finish. Not dust. Again, this is our history and ancestry. We know absolutely nothing about it in my opinion. So many lies. I want the truth. And I want the dust off the boxes. Simple. I'm sure there's people that work there...No?

[@sillybollox2244]

The ash from silica-rich marsh plants would provide a microabrasive, pasted onto wood, rope, textile straps etc..

[@al2207]

no , just try on granite block with sand

[@lupani74]

where did you get this guide Omg really=?

[@enigmasoftheancientworld5245]

Yousef is the son of the legendary Egyptian wisdom keeper, Hakim Ab'del Awyan, who you can see in Carmen Boulter's documentary The Pyramid Code.

[@chrissycherry6089]

Just like using a spoon and ice cream it makes the same kind of grooves that’s why am saying maybe they had a way to melt the granite it was just soft enough where they could scoop it out with a wooden spoon or a wooden shovel it makes sense it looks just like when you would scoop with a spoon and whip cream or ice cream or cake frosting it makes the same kind of grew scoop marks

[@wadils]

Querem fazer um vídeo mostrando que tudo em Aswan Quarry, não é como as pessoas imaginam hoje! Tenho o material para reproduzir o que está aí como o Obelisco que poderia ser construido sem ferramenta de tecnologia nenhuma! poderia ser feito usando apenas as mãos!

[@GaryMcKinnonUFO]

3:30, it's like they had molecular saws.

[@al2207]

yes desintegrator cutting energy beam that cut by breaking atoms bonding at the molecular level

[@billford5553]

That would be a laser beam type

[@GaryMcKinnonUFO]

And the scoop marks at the 1200 ton stone in Lebanon look like they were cut with something that went through them like butter.

[@billford5553]

What about the obvious. Its in the sky the Sun! using a type of magnyfying technique of magnifying the Suns ray through an object to creat a beam.

[@billford5553]

@@GaryMcKinnonUFO the stone must of been in a softer more workable state back then for some reason or other i don't know maybe the granite was like a hard clay type rock

[@browaruspierogus2182]

All that proves Egyptians didn't build anything. They can't even explain most of the rock structures whatsoever. Whole area looks quite dead and empty and current city architecture is just terrifying.

[@ericlarrivee9373]

Can someone tell me about the signe at the start of this video ?

[@michaelsegura5410]

Those marks look like the work of a tractor scoop and tire tread