At least this one lasted longer than Concord..

[@JustSomeReptile]

I'm sure all 2 players are heartbroken

[@miorioff]

I'd bet half of players playing right now are content creators making videos about how bad the game is 😂

[@jeffmacs2o223]

It got a big increase in players when it hit 3.00$ 😂😂😂

[@mikeydflyingtoaster]

The joke works better as "I'm sure both players..."

[@Paul-py5kr]

😢

[@kelvinbill]

Don't be silly, I'm sure there's at least 6 of them.

[@SKizzleAXE]

They were like: "We only lost $200 million and not $400 million like Concord. There's room to mess up even more next time" 💀💀

[@TwiceBubaigawara-dl5ln]

🫡

[@oldnotweak]

@@TwiceBubaigawara-dl5ln im pretty sure they lost more than 400 million on concord

[@borismaric130]

@@oldnotweak 400 million +studio +advertising +merchandise somewhere between 600-800 millions

[@Captain_Noot]

$5 Suicide Squad Deluxe Edition Or $5 Hamburger Id pick the Hamburger every time

[@keith4047]

Yea noticed that price and gave it a hard pass, would do same if it was free. yea good choice re burger

[@jimmyv3170]

Hamburger is only choice. Hamburger would never kill off Batman

[@JoeOvercoat]

mmmmmmm hamburgerrrrrr

[@ianlove4876]

At least you won't lose precious gigs that you could spend elsewhere

[@toxiiskullz]

At least I know I'll come out satisfied eating a burger

[@razzo086]

No Asmon is completely right the whole gaming studio employees who made the Arkham series left, there was absolutely no employees there that worked on the Arkham games when the studio worked on the trash ‘kill the justice league. His chats have some dumb people in it

[@nashtheneet]

Yeah Sefton Hill the lead for the Arkham games left in 2021 or 2022, thats when all hope died.

[@AndrewH9999]

​@nashtheneet I remember saying the same thing when I seen his post about leaving rocksteady

[@ClarkBent68]

Same reason bethesda isnt working on elderscrolls 6

[@sGeeMoney]

Yeah when you have thousands of people watching there are always going to be some loud mouthed idiots. It’s always funny to hear what Asmon has to say to them though.

[@Ningamer-bo7ej]

I think it was co founder of rocksteady he left and created a studio called hundred star games studio.

[@daeryk6424]

Ending the game with releasing Deathstroke is so poetic.

[@quanghuynguyen2749]

Because he Stroke it to Death

[@Jagadishhebbar]

literally a "STROKE"

[@shinobixa4]

IKR 😂😂

[@Flesh_Wizard]

Who up Deathstrokin it rn?

[@NinjapowerMS]

Pretty funny they stopped shoehorning their woke characters and finally went back to an actual character that should have been there day one. Too late though idc anymore. Non buynary all the way

[@IceMoonie]

When you're a triple AAA game and you're worth less than a regular coffee at Starbucks.

[@XalTheMagkas]

So an AAAAAAAAA game?

[@Dargoneth]

I wonder when people realize that suicide squad is just a total garbage franchise. Without margot robbie the movie would have been even worse and then they need to bring a shark and John Cena in the second one and it still sucks. It was born out of a desperate attempt after seeing marvels superhero success

[@dimas-dvdru]

Not the first ninedriple game in history 😭😭😭

[@IceMoonie]

@dimas-dvdru You hate to see them don't you.

[@dimas-dvdru]

@@IceMoonie yeah 😔😔😔

[@warhammerguy]

Everyone saw this coming, the only reason they didn't do it sooner is because they were legally obligated to do it due to the season pass.

[@gwaustin99]

That an the no refunds would have been a major reason to sue at they wouldn't accept refunds and had to abide by the promised 4 characters or else more lawsuits

[@utmastuh]

correct, legally obligated to make it last this long despite it losing money

[@Floaty8008]

@@utmastuhthis should be the punishment for bad games

[@calebhayden4124]

They couldn't go throughcanceling it alongside the 2 woke characters would have been a huge L with meme potential. They waited until you were supposed to get Deathstroke lmao

[@schikey2076]

especially with Steam's new policy regarding towards season passes and DLC as well..

[@blairowens8912]

again, Captain Boomerang using guns as a main weapon when bro has an arsenal of boomerangs. ITS HIS FUCKING NAME. this game was before they even started working on it.

[@mr.Ambiguoso]

If you build the character for it his boomerangs are pretty legit.

[@blairowens8912]

@mr.Ambiguoso oh well that's nice at least. They should've gone that route tho. Instead of everyone being reskinned Deadshots. I actually wanted to pick this game up when I saw King Shark and the scicles then I realized it was a 3rd person shooter. Technically I do have it since Amazon gave it away for free a while back.

[@aNamelessVoid]

That's crazy. Who wouldn't want to play as Pride Ms. Freeze?

[@jsixixjs]

I will defenetly. I hope they continue the game or rerelease it, after reading my comment

[@rhian7092]

I will x1000

[@hoanhthile5468]

@@jsixixjs I'm sure you and the 3 other players can find better games after this closure

[@rhian7092]

Kitsokiter

[@squidikka]

@@jsixixjs Your comment is the quintessential meme of twitter weirdos. It's all performative nonsense. All talk. Nobody that says this will ever play this, just like the typical loud crowd that screams for more games like this won't be playing it either. Edit: My bad, didn't catch it being a joke, lol. People legitimately think this way.

[@connorgunning6228]

Bioware.. 1st strike Andromeda 2nd strike anthem and 3rd strike dragon age veilguard 3 strikes you're out..

[@Morfe02]

4 last nail Andrómeda 2

[@hi123452008]

Suicide Squad: Kill the Franchise

[@JustinKnoerr-wc9ni]

Honestly them releasing an offline version of the game before ending support is a pretty chad move by the developers. Most companies these days would just shut it down and not give a second thought about the players.

[@Yunothehero]

I don't think they legally cannot shut it down completely anymore due to certain laws that have been passed

[@kasiadinero1695]

@@YunotheheroNah it’s because they promised it before the game even released. Usually when a developer says a offline mode will get added, it gets added 99.9% of the time.

[@jasontodd1226]

It's an incoming lawsuit if they shut it down

[@UserNameHere-yb5fu]

Cough cough The Crew cough cough

[@flanflanjp_]

>Mass Effect: Andromeda (2017) flopped. >Anthem (2019) flopped. >Dragon Age: Veilguard (2024) flopped. At what point do you just shut down the studio? 7 years of complete failure is impressive.

[@sleelofwpg688]

Meanwhile ME:A made a profit. Just cause ppl laughed at the animations and tired face, doesn't mean it flopped. Being panned isn't flopping. Meanwhile, I had none of the bugs others had. Guess I lucked out in my comp config just liking it. Still play it too.

[@flanflanjp_]

@@sleelofwpg688 it may have turned a slight profit but that's still considered a flop for a mega franchise like mass effect. This was also atop the bugs, awful art direction, DLC hell, awful story, many gameplay elements only technically functional, and so on. Flopped.

[@MrAnony07]

@@sleelofwpg688 No it was a flop even Phill a higher up said it flopped hell it almost officially killed the franchise it took a lot of convincing to get the next ME game to being made.

[@nooobishgamers1695]

​@sleelofwpg688 dude it failed

[@Lurker_Z]

@@sleelofwpg688 You self-reported being part of the problem, just like IGN is.

[@Damateos-pn8ct]

Harley Quinn was hot for years , except in suicide squad 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@patandruskiewicz358]

We did like Harley, just the Harley from Batman the animated series

[@DeathMetalThrasher]

Early arkham games Harley is great too, I really liked that interpretation and VA delivery. Yes, I also liked that she's sexually attractive, it's part of her character design. Even in the animated series

[@jeffmacs2o223]

Or the actual Arkham games

[@ScrambledAndBenedict]

Yeah. While it's true people like "hot" Harley, I think people really only liked when she was "hot" in a bubbly fun-loving ditzy kind of way. As soon as she, to paraphrase her creator Bruce Timm directly, "stopped being cute and cuddly and started being a nasty skank" I think it started her downfall in popularity. Margot Robbie did a decent job, but the movies she was in tended to do poorly, so clearly she didn't have enough popularity to bring in audiences, and when they just made her unappealing that was it lol

[@Shiirow]

exactly, I liked her in BTAS, and I really dislike Margot Robbie.

[@aj.j5833]

Who thought that new Harley is even cool? Only one Harley the clown Harley and no other.

[@blacknight0003]

Remember, the devs who built GTA left with Dan Houser... before GTA 6

[@NiceDiggz]

They left before red dead 2

[@blacknight0003]

@@NiceDiggz part of me hopes GTA 6 will be as good or better

[@Traven1021]

5$..thats a hamburger, and these people weren't hungry. Straight bars lol

[@ShaggyRogers1]

It went $5 because the decision was already made. They just wanted as many last minute purchases they could get before they take all reason away for anyone to buy.

[@Alex-nk8bw]

Nice of them to put this thing on a -95% sale a couple of days ago, to lure in a last round of unsuspecting players.

[@TurtleChad1]

This is a lesson to all developers who work with Sweet baby inc and other DEI organizations.

[@omgitslukas5242]

And they won’t learn, that’s the thing

[@Altmer353]

Lets be real, Sweet Baby and DEI are just symptoms of the problem. Even without them this game would've turned out bad.

[@user-cs2mw9rw6c]

Money isn't really their thing, I guess

[@chromium9340]

@@omgitslukas5242oh they have too if they don’t want to all go bankrupt

[@InternetHydra]

Most won't care, they're all for that stuff and would do it even without SBI itself. The rank and file employees not on board are apparently too cowardly to speak up about it or to quit. It's the very presence of these ideologues in this industry that has to go.

[@ShepVII]

20:21 You're right about that. The company founders left a year or so before SS came out. And a lot of the dev team slowly left in the years prior to the founders leaving. It was basically a new crew throughout its developing years. And you know what the funnier thing is. The founders made a new dev company, with a lot of the team that developed the Arkham games

[@madhouse6422]

Which Company?

[@ShepVII]

@madhouse6422 Rocksteady

[@LuvTonique]

In their defense It's literally called Suicide Squad

[@JaviNobody]

Yeah, but it wasn’t to take too literally. 😅

[@LuvTonique]

@@JaviNobody Corporate Suicide (squad)

[@keystrix3704]

Aaand I disagree with Asmon about Harley. Old Quinn was interesting and hot. She even had some of the best episodes in the 90's series. This one steered away from the OG too hard to make her 100% "strong woman" AND made her bland looking.

[@Ralathar44]

Someone needs to tie Asmon down and force him to watch BTAS so he'll stop repeating this Harley is not a good character crap. It'd be like saying the Joker is a bad character just because Leto sucked as him.

[@markthetranslator1162]

I would agree with him. She was never interesting to me. She's just a crazy Joker sidekick without interesting abilities or personality.

[@n4n4sh1_]

I like her as a character, but im sorry you are being too naive She is a crazy, attractive (in design) girl, she is basically made to be hot, and thats why she is so famous

[@justinmadrid8712]

Yes but if Harley isn’t hot, she isn’t interesting. It’s hard to explain, but the way she acts really only works if she is hot. A female character running around in a tight suit who flirts with all the men only works of she is hot. Otherwise it’s just cringe.

[@Nemissis4265]

WRONG!!!!

[@Justacatlmao]

The fact that this took 9 years to make and the collective reaction to this ranges from anger and tiredness to just indifference and a bland "lol" is just painfull. WB and Rocksteady should really not be feeling well for the coming 12 months. If ever. This is something you never recover from and will forever humble you. Or should atleast.

[@MrHealingmonk]

WB is in the big 5 producing companies for movies. See there net worth. They are going to be fine. Rocksteady may get dropped/bought out by WB though if the next game fails.

[@AlemaoMEGAReimer]

​@@MrHealingmonkhes talking on an individual level. The people in charge, they are the ones that change and get humbled, at least should (not the ceos, the management across the company). I work management level at a company, saw first hand the c-suite lose their feeling of greatness and arrogance failure after failure. It should indeed change you. But if they have infinite money, i dont know if they care at that point.

[@raven80wolfx2]

I don't think this game took 9 years to make. There are many rumors of canceled games like Superman Game and others. It's like saying wonder women took 6 years. There is a lot going on. We have no clue. At one point, they were talking about selling the gaming division. Meanwhile, mortal kombat studio moves like business as usual. There are rumors that dlc isn't selling well for mortal kombat 1. So, dlc expansion and future dlc is canceled.

[@steffen89able]

2 most damaging things in the game industry. 1: virtue signaling developers in an echo chamber. 2: Liveservice multi-player games.

[@Robloxify69]

I’d rather go to a dentist appointment than play this game.

[@sal1764]

I shall sentence thee to 15 minutes of Suicide Squad

[@Cam3-]

​@@sal1764 NO NO NO NO WAIT WAIT WAIT

[@DeathMetalThrasher]

Yeah, at least I get a free toothbrush, toothpaste, and floss at the end

[@InvidiousIgnoramus]

@@DeathMetalThrasher Some mouthwash, even.

[@squidikka]

I'll never understand why people have such a problem with dentist appointments. Unless you have unholy gross gamer teeth, all they do is give you a clean and you go home. Big deal. Just stop drinking the monster energy dude.

[@thegongoozler3374]

1:02 Nah, still too expensive

[@Dregomz02]

Everything will be compared to Concord for decades to come.

[@nooobishgamers1695]

The day before

[@chriszhang1660]

Used as a unit for sales

[@AtlantisPrince]

If Rocksteady really wanted to make a looter shooter, the would have made a looter brawler. Five Arkham games, two Mordor and three Spider-Man, and that combat system is still fun af.

[@TyroneisWhite]

Kevin conroy did not deserve this. Rip buddy.

[@Lotis343]

it's wasn't his last batman project that was the animated Crisis on Infinte Earths Part 3 as Earth 12 Batman

[@nigeltheoutlaw]

Wasn't Conroy a looney ide0logue like all the rest? I know hammil is insane.

[@jasonbelcho8609]

​@@nigeltheoutlaw? Bro clearly you don't know what your talking about. Kevin Conroy is a legend

[@chadbizeau5997]

​@@nigeltheoutlawI don't like Hamill's politics, but there was no better joker. And Conroy was the best Batman.

[@nigeltheoutlaw]

@@chadbizeau5997 And this is exactly why lunatics ruined American entertainment. You guys defend them at every opportunity.

[@kirkalmeida]

25:20 This is why live service games suck. Hogwarts Legacy doesn't need to be perfect; it just needs to be fun because you'll play it, finish it, and enjoy it. But with a live service game, you're supposed to play it for years-or at least that's the intention. If you're going to invest years of your life into something, it better be damn near perfect.

[@SprangMcCrang]

I can last longer than concord. That’s a humble brag.

[@arandomguardsmen]

Damn how do u do it buddy

[@furumetaru0232]

Based

[@ainzooalgown3927]

Better check that out or you be in the negative.

[@talkingtakotaco8611]

Nice. You should talk to you doctor, but Nice 👍

[@Ziggyvu]

Save some ladies for the rest of us

[@tero2444]

The dude saying that programmers only do what they're told is on point. A programmer is told what to do, then figure out how to do it. It is literally not their job to question if making the button red or blue makes sense. Their job is to make the button red or blue as told. It's the designer's fault. Sincerely, a programmer.

[@chihuahua0117]

yeah I don't agree with Asmon on that one either. I'm a regular frontend dev (not senior or UI/UX designer) and I might make a suggestion that "that button shouldn't be placed there or have X color" most of the time I'm just told to implement it. And if I deviate from that because I think the way I should do it is better, I'll get reprimanded. So no, the regular devs aren't to blame for making bad decisions. Now there might be bad devs there who don't really know wtf is going on, but even then its still a management failure for hiring bad devs.

[@unleashed2724]

Wouldn't have happened if the game had designs like Marvel Rivals, and didn't disrespect their fanbase.

[@wongliyo171]

I was honestly surprised with how Squirrel girl looks in Marvel Rivals. Not complaining tho.

[@franciscorafaelmontielpale7854]

Please, all DC knows how to do now days is using it's franchise to insult their viewers. From Teen Titans GO, Harley Quinn, Creature Commandos and so much more.

[@NameIsDoc]

It would have been a different game

[@Be4rz]

@@wongliyo171 you're just not architect pilled yet

[@sandyk9300]

Nah the game was shit....even if the fanservice was great

[@Alaitoc1422]

Most studios are in a ''ship of Thesseus'' nowadays. Bioware, Rocksteady, Rockstar (somewhat I hear) and CDPR only to name a few. The people that made the games that gave those studios their accolades are for the most part gone for multiple reasons; and let's face it the people that replaced them ''can't wear their jockstraps''.

[@PadaV4]

The original people have left and been replaced by wokes.

[@bruh-bn3ni]

@@PadaV4college grads with a clear agenda and a lack of understanding of why the games they grew up on are good and so they're naraccistics who think they can better than the originals. every single time, this happens to film too

[@philnolan9903]

Agreed, looks like all AAA Studios are infected

[@UserNameHere-yb5fu]

What worries me so much is Rockstar. I hope the rumors are exaggerated but that sounds like me on copium

[@mikehunt4265]

Don't forget Bethesda, all they have left is the corporate side of the company

[@koryu9924]

Hogwarts Legacy did not create the game for the "Modern Audience" they also made it for the fans.

[@TheApplesnacks]

Honestly hadnt realized it was still getting support.

[@gror7849]

They committed to 4 seasons or something of the sort at launch to raise the hype hence they closing it after this last release ... Lawsuits otherwise which would only have increased the losses they recorded on this game!

[@casperryborg4869]

They were bound to the first 4 seasons since people who pre-ordered were promised at least that amount. But yeah, that was literally the only reason it was kept afloat.

[@VinnyUnion]

"support" in exclamation marks.

[@aaron7285]

The problem was from the start most fans do not want to see heroes get killed so you are targeting a specific group of fans. Then you made it into a looter shooter which does not make sense (aside from Deathshot) and it's a live service which means you cannot play it offline.

[@Sleep.ye.]

Concord was just the appetizer

[@dulguun917]

Appetizer made from golden shit.

[@nooobishgamers1695]

No the appetiser was the day before lol

[@dulguun917]

@@nooobishgamers1695 actually you’re are right day before was appetizer concord was the feast and we are getting into desserts.

[@exia7684]

Ubisoft with Shadows will be the main dish.

[@JimmyCrackorn]

2:17, Nah, that's an inaccurate assumption. Harley Quinn is one of the most popular DC characters in the world even today. In fact, current trends show that she's arguably the most popular American comics character over the last 30 years, and she's a certified pop culture icon. That's before Margot Robbie first played her in S******e Squad. She was enormously popular even in the 90's cartoons. It's not even debatable.

[@n4n4sh1_]

Because she is hot LMAO

[@JimmyCrackorn]

@@n4n4sh1_ DAMN RIGHT! 😂 I can't even front! You see I didn't even try to deny that part lol

[@KiNGZiGMASTER]

​@n4n4sh1_ Its not just because she's hot there's characters just as hot as her but dont get the same amount of attention. Its something else her character does that pulls people in. Zatanna, Starfire and few others I think look better.

[@jonathanbowling3129]

@@KiNGZiGMASTERit was the look and the voice together I think, add to that it was part of a series with a great Batman and Joker.

[@gamebros87]

Its cus she's hot and obsessed with the Joker and alot of guy have power fantaisies of being the Joker.

[@kinghell9061]

Rocksteady should pull the plug on Rocksteady.

[@andymehmet8206]

with bioware most of the rpg expert devs left because they didn't want to work on anthem so when they went back to dragon age it was to late all the experienced dev's were history working on their own projects

[@victorandressuarezvalcarce1365]

Batman has been avenged, may rocksteady fall at last

[@nashtheneet]

Im sad that they have fallen, they made a game series that defined my childhood and they fell harder than Joe Biden falls on stairs.

[@DarkSun123456789]

@@nashtheneet "they" are not the same people that made the series you loved. I heard someone went through the credits of KTJL and not a single person there is anyone from the Arkham games. These studios are a "ship of Theseus" metaphor. If you replace every part, is it the same ship? Clear answer. NO.

[@Jigrup]

This is the issue with promising seasons as the game releases since then you are obligated to complete it through contract so long as one bought it. The issue is they didnt take the easy route and just refund the people.

[@Highwynd]

This trash been on life support for too long as it is. this is mercy.

[@grundged]

The offline mode is nice though. Better than Ubisoft.

[@SAW-j3i]

Rocksteady still thinks we want to play through the story, their so delulu 😭🙏

[@chadbizeau5997]

Rocksteady or WB?

[@SAW-j3i]

@ both

[@SBvice]

Jesus Christ on a motorbike

[@moarteax6106]

It's the thought that matters. At least they leave the option.

[@RyanStansberry]

1:17 🗣💣 That's the coldest line i heard in a while

[@Phixation]

3:23 No, they made Andromeda before Anthem and Dragon Age. Veilguard is strike 3 for BioWare.

[@sleelofwpg688]

Meanwhile, whiers aside, ME:A made money. Just wasn't gangbusters

[@squidikka]

@@sleelofwpg688 Not comparable. MEA made money because it was the beginning of Bioware moving away from what made them Bioware. It came out early in the movement of people realizing what was going on in the industry. We have 3 full flops before the new ME, unlike MEA. It's been nearly a decade since MEA...

[@mikehunt4265]

​@@sleelofwpg688 mate they cancelled all planned dlc for Andromeda, you don't do that for a successful game 😂

[@llambduh]

24:00 baldy couldn't program a TV Remote, please do not comment on a profession you have no understanding of.

[@jimskyboy2]

kind of insane watching these pro service games go offline. Gone are the days where a company makes a single player game and it's self sufficient all on its own.

[@cerealontoast]

Those games developers exist and thrive when they focus on making a good game experience: God of War, Black Myth, Elden Ring. Not only great games that made game of the year but no microtransaction shit needed to fund the studio. The industry should take note and copy.

[@snowstorm9310]

2:06 That's just incorrect. People like Harley Quinn. Yes, absolutely I won't pretend like a large chunk of people just like her looks/think she's hot. And then there's a disturbing amount of people who want that "Joker And Harley" relationship (without understanding they're asking to be abused) But Harley *Is* a great character with some amazing writing in her stories.

[@Maneyax]

People love Harley Quinn-not just Margot Robbie's portrayal of her, but the character herself. You can see this in the Arkham series, comics, and cartoons. She's the perfect balance of crazy, smart, and hot, and that's exactly why people love her as a character. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League completely failed to showcase those traits. Her outfit design was garbage, her hairstyle was trash, and she didn’t seem nearly crazy enough. Instead, she came off like some New Yorker woman who was just having a bad day. Harley is supposed to be wild, unpredictable, and clever, and none of that came through. For example, look at the cartoon where she captured Batman, hung him upside down above a piranha tank, and planned to hand him over to the Joker-a perfect mix of crazy and genius. In the game, though, they had her "beat" Batman, tie him to a chair, and then just shoot him. That’s just stupid. First of all, no way in hell is Batman-especially Arkham Batman-losing to a bunch of freaks. He’s been outsmarting and beating them for years, and now suddenly we’re supposed to believe they can take him down? That’s like thinking licking a frozen lamppost in winter is a good idea. And let’s be real: nobody who grew up playing as Arkham Batman wanted to see him die, let alone in such a pathetic way. The writers clearly dropped the ball on both Harley and Batman, making the whole thing feel like a complete failure.

[@wadenbeisser2491]

Though i agree the mainstream probably heard about harley quinn and maaaaybe saw a few episodes of some batman series, knowing her from there, then forget about the existence and saw the Margot Robbie version.

[@ForeverFridayVideo]

Literally nobody saw this coming Do the devs still go onto twitter and cry about getting canned for being bad?

[@CJ-kg7yq]

Probably Bluesky instead of X now.

[@DOOMStudios]

And Kill The Justice League had more players at its all time peak too lol.

[@return_h3669]

The guys who bought the expensive edition and didnt refund: 🙂 *internal rage*

[@blackyonbi]

"Let this be a lesson for ya" -Demoman from TF2

[@boglurker2043]

They’ll double down until they have nothing left

[@TheDiner50]

"Hey look buddy, I'm an engineer. That means I solve problems, not problems like 'What is beauty?' Because that would fall within the purview of your conundrums of philosophy. I solve practical problems, for instance: how am I going to stop some mean mother Hubbard from tearing me a structurally superfluous be-hind? The answer, use a gun, and if that don't work... Use more gun. Take for instance this heavy caliber tripod mounted lil' old number designed by me, built by me, and you best hope... Not pointed at you." -Engineer from TF2

[@RaxXxvell]

23:30 actually if someone told me the higher ups told them to make it more colorful and have more screen effects for the additional dopamine hit like in game like bejeweled where you sometimes can't even see what's going on, I wouldn't doubt it one second.

[@NiceDiggz]

That was the lead dev which was a Woman who never played a Action game... She wanted shit everywhere

[@patandruskiewicz358]

It’s not even a hamburger

[@MrJackfriday]

You guys dont know whats actually happening now. Its actually Batman contingency plan in the works. He literally canceled his creators

[@hopelessedgelord]

1:53 Man is saying that like spiderman came out before the arkham games.

[@NiceDiggz]

It Did on the Ps2 are you a gamer?

[@hopelessedgelord]

@NiceDiggz That's not what he's referencing, though. He said the insomniac ones, and if we are going that far back, pretty sure batman 89 had a game out before Spiderman 2001. He describes it like the Batman Arkham Games were inspired by the insomniac Spiderman ones In which the first entry came out after the batman Markham games had wrapped up.

[@AidilAfham]

Its crazy to think that months before the release, everyone already gave tons of feedback of what they did not want in the game. They refused to listen and thats a multi million dollar mistake. I don’t know what they were expecting when the gamers telling them they don’t want what they were selling

[@NiceDiggz]

They we're told 3years before release and they just wanted a new fanbase

[@hajimakairu5451]

24:20 here asmon is having a fundamental misunderstanding between design and implementation. The programmers are just putting down code to achieve what the designers want, at least in AAA (indie you see designers and programmers being the same people alot of the time, but AAA likes to silo those roles apart). Bad design choices are the responsibility of the game designers, not the programmers. A programmer can't necessarily implement something, notice it's bad, let the designer know, and then have that thing change and frankly they don't have the time to do that. If you're a programmer under crunch you are just laying out code to get a ticket done, then moving on to the next ticket. It's more on the management than anyone else, as they impose and enforce crunch which inherently erodes communication between departments and sucks the soul out of art and fun. Forcing things to happen quickly leads to snap decisions that cannot be reconsidered and they all build up into a residue of sludge that the player has to deal with until it gets patched out (we promise it'll get fixed, definitely, management will definitely prioritise that).

[@TheDiner50]

It is all down to management. That or governors. It really is the same thing. If you force the hand of workers to play games to not be yelled at for underperforming? Then guess what? You are going to have workers playing the workers games of check-boxing and meeting quotas. There are so many instances of going directly against what should be the main goal and interests... As a example. If you do not spend all of the yearly budget? Then next yearly budget is going to be smaller, because clearly you do not need the budget. So what is the result? The goal becomes to overspend the budget on pointless and wasteful things to simply keep what budget you already have. No point in being efficient and smart with your budget. It is rather a better thing to do the complete opposite. Programmers are seen as a waste of money. Everyone is moving to Unreal Engine... Not only is there only 3 people doing the coding of the game needing maybe 20 coders to catch up with the crunch and mismanagement. The 3 programmers have to settle with 5 incompetent environment designers doing awful broken coding for the game. Not only that. But the 3 programmers have 7 layers of fun management to get approved a single little code change. And if you have say 8 'programmers' on the team/game? Then guess what? You have 5 programmers that is hiding the incompetence behind the 7 layers of management. Given a task to do? That maybe would take half a day to do? Sorry. That will be 3 weeks of work. HOW? It is going to be 3 weeks, coding is complicated. Or the management is the one that makes it complicated... yes... And when trying to get the rats to show that it really is incompetence, or lazy waste of time for a paycheck? (can you blame this people for not being the least interested in this games.) Then you have 7 layers of management that is so risk averse and more then happy to fire and threaten anyone for discrimination. Even now it was all about how someone not fit for the role is either being unable themselves to get anything done due to the 7 layers of management being risk averse of code changes. Or literally anything! The end result is the same. DEI. If you let slackers and politics/games become the main focus for workers? Then no wounder DEI finds a grate home in the gaming industry. There is a new game released this year that exactly simulates how DEI is nothing new. Dale & Dawson Stationery Supplies. Imagine how the modern office structure would look like. In this game you only have 1 manager. How about 7? And where you need to get code permission from a voice actor or some stupid shit. Yes, programmers needing a voice actor to agree to world streaming code. This is the year 2024. A joke that we are living in. Why a voice actor? Because, shit you not, have nothing better to do. Yes. 8 levels of management. You can not re record the same voice-lines for 7 years. You can try! Instead, why not be a game manager going all over the place and putting fingers into every aspect and such? You should do it like this, this is offensive, we can not do it like this because my tummy ache said so! The voice actor was the one fiddling with all the aspects of the game for years. Everything from dialog to world streaming code. Who else is better suited but this one, know it all, smart ass? Noting against voice actors. It might as well have been a Tumbler artist that was hired into a role. But then... A Tumbler artist usually can find something to draw instead of messing with world streaming code for fun... How could there possibly be 8 layers of management? Well... That is the funny part. The players and costumers should be a layer. Instead it is the investors having a say in everything. Do I need to elaborate more on how screwed the industry is? Try and have a bunch of random investors be in a meeting about game design. And then no longer wounder how DEI or loot-boxes ends up in games.

[@micheljolicoeur6094]

What a surprise..NOT!! Warner Bros sold the premium edition that included 4 seasons of content, it was obvious from the start that it was going to be killed after Season 4 since Warner Bros did not want to have to refund players.

[@revan1202]

I'm at the 8:43 I want to say this. It truly is chasing or being the killer of other games that destroy companies. Also chasing money in the worst way. It's the reason why I stopped playing dota 2. It became more of a sport than it became a game. And that's why I don't play RTS games anymore because it became a sport same with some shooters. It's a solid reason why some franchises either become small or die out. It's because they're trying to chase a high.Or be the killer of other franchises.

[@erichthegraham]

I used to love BioWare but I'm not touching Dragon Age. My view on BioWare is that they were dealt a s*** hand, but they also played that s*** hand poorly. I know most people won't agree with me, but I really liked Anthem and thought it had a lot of potential, and Mass Effect Andromeda had a cursed launch but after they fixed it it was a pretty decent game. The part where I feel like they were dealt a bad hand was in that Mass Effect Andromeda had to follow up one of the most famous gaming trilogies of all time and the bad will from its poor execution of the ending. Ever since they've been struggling to find a way to be relevant again. Other companies have been able to recover from worse and BioWare, IMO could have saved Anthem and ME:A with some better decision making. Dragon age, however, represents the culmination of a series of bad decisions that may now have snowballed into the death of the company

[@Official_RetroMania]

Sushi Squad, you did anger us, you did entertain us, you made us laugh but most importantly you won't be missed. Press L for Sushi Squad.

[@justincampbell5987]

Tbf, Harley Quinn was liked as a character also because she was hot. That's why she became a character in the comics after debuting in the 90s cartoon

[@Wullabab]

The only thing this game killed was itself. Amazing

[@brendansmith6393]

Last of us 2 was one of the worst games of all time. I wish they had done this and failed hard. 17:41

[@skaruts]

3:53 _"... and then they changed the entire FPS landscape with overwatch"_ Well... I think it was Valve that did that with TF2. Overwatch was just Blizzard's version of TF2.

[@bismarckimperia8781]

Many incredible speedruns this year huh...

[@tzuyd]

"The developers are perfect angels, it's the executives that are to blame" It's HR that is to blame. The developers weren't fit for the job.

[@player1id]

I’m going to disagree with you on harley. Tons of people love her as a character. Arleen Sorkin was fantastic. Rip

[@hubachecka]

Yeah, he doesn't know the story behind Harley's popularity. It started way back in the 90s when her Batman TAS version become a fan favorite, so far that she was even included into the main DC canon. Even the Rocksteady version from Arkham asylum and city were popular way before Margot Robbie was cast. Margots attractiveness didn't really make the character more or less popular.

[@n4n4sh1_]

​@@hubacheckait did 😭 how can you guys be fr

[@TheUltimateHacker007]

​@@n4n4sh1_You're late. Harley was always popular. Even since the animated batman series

[@scythark4826]

The bester Looter shooter was sunset overdrive, by insomniac games. Blending all types of movement, each gun being insanely unique, and a pretty good story overall. It's a shame that studios don't look at past successes, and base any decisions or molds because of them.

[@staris3712]

I would argue Veilguard was Bioware still chasing trends. Its pretty clear there are signs the game at one point was going to be a games as a service that ultimately got ripped out. So hopefully that means if Bioware can go into Mass Effect with the right mind set from the get go we get a good Mass Effect game. Certainly no guarantee as the rot that had the company chasing trends might have infected too deeply at this point.

[@pepinlebref7585]

oh man, you are very naïve. Still a part of me hopes that you are right

[@viice_]

Why do people never mention, that the studio devs always changes over time? After Anthem, most devs who created the prior single player games were gone, so it's no wonder Failguard did happen. The devs who did Redfall worked on single player games like Dishonored, Prey and Deathloop before and they got forced to make a live-service game. A couple of devs already left during development and many others had no interest in making this game and so they only did the bare minimum of work.

[@TurelBS]

24:17 You can tell that Asmongold has never worked a blue or white collar job, because this is exactly what happens in those kinds of jobs so yeah... sorry pal, you're dead wrong on this one.

[@dspada27]

Hes always wrong on this stuff

[@thatanimatorguy599]

Troll detected

[@dspada27]

@thatanimatorguy599 spoken like someone who hasn't work at a big company either

[@thatanimatorguy599]

@dspada27 don’t need too. You don’t need to work at a big company to make a game and even if I did I would’ve made a better story than whatever you possibly could. Silly Sweet Baby inc employee.

[@dspada27]

@thatanimatorguy599 u have no idea what ur talking about.. he's said that programmers get to do whatever they want to make something good.. thats not how big companies work, unfortunately. Lots or red tape and politics but sure dude with no idea you know what ur talking about

[@slow9573]

My buddy bought the game on that huge sale for $4 a few days ago. I giggled at him but he said it was only $4. I texted him the article and giggled more

[@FaizalKuntz]

Concord Killer

[@seanaldridgefrancisco8736]

So modern gaming is how fast the developers take to pull the plug on it.

[@OhDaddySauce]

More like Rocksteady killed the Justice League

[@clayiliff5574]

Of course the same developers of arkham are not the suicide squad develeopers. The good developers have all been let go or left and have been replaced by DEI hires. They have know idea what the actual consumer wants in a video game. Focus more on woke BS instead of good story.

[@Chesslover69420]

To think that Borderlands 2, a +10 years old game is a more complete and well rounded experience, for singleplayer and multiplayer than any other looter shooter right now. Is baffling not seeing that level of quality right now.

[@TheRedGauntlet]

Still one of my favourite games to this day. Shame that Gearbox didn't learned with their own game

[@raven80wolfx2]

To think people who actually play spend time in end game realize only specific guns are viable and the end game is complete dog shit. Most people only view borderlands story and dlc. The end is always crap and game devs nerf everything into the ground. History always repeats itself.

[@kukuc96]

That is pretty damning for Gearbox as well. In 2 tries they have failed to match BL2 now. I don't know how BL4 will turn out, but it might be make or break for the franchise.

[@LyraleiYT]

At this point I'll name it Justice League Kill the Game.

[@josephstalin5414]

Mid character and she's hot = Harley Quinn Excellent character and she's hot = Jinx I'm sorry but we just have something better now.😂😂😂

[@TheRedGauntlet]

Season 1 Jynx at least

[@Sunglare1]

23:00 hold on. We have heard from insiders that a lot of design decisions have to go through several people. Before they are finally finalized and the original artist is disappointed in the final product. Designer makes kick ass characters hot females but but all the wokies above them tell him his designs are problematic and need to be changed. Square Enix has their ethics department where all characters created by the design team are altered to be "inclusive" and the original design team isnt even aware of the changes until the game comes out. So yeah alot 9f thos shit is the exec's fault. They dont give their employees the freedom to create.

[@Necropheliac]

It's not a good thing that this lasted longer than Concord. It means WB games is less realistic about the gaming market than Sony. WB should have shut this down in the first month. Continuing the game only added to the cost, and potentially ripped off more customers.

[@Le_Dave]

This is because they were legally obligated to deliver on the season pass content

[@Necropheliac]

@ like Sony did, they could have just refunded all of the sales.

[@silanah]

DA Veilguard also wasn’t really what BioWare did before. It was chasing trends (only different than Anthem) and that’s why it failed.

[@homierosetai8316]

"It's a hamburger and people doesn't hungry" quote of the day

[@kev1nno]

4:14 - 4:32 In this case, I'd have to disagree. Bioware had a ton of employees leave the studio during the development of Anthem. The team that made Veilguard is not the same team that made Mass Effect and Dragon Age. The original team behind those series could probably have made a new entry just fine, but that team simply doesn't exist anymore. Having to make a live-service game that the studio's employees seemingly weren't interested in is almost certainly to blame A great studio can probably make great games across many different genres, yeah. But I do very much believe that said studio's employees have to *want* to make those games in the first place. Otherwise a good portion of the team will eventually leave to do what they want somewhere else

[@pascalf9602]

The only looter shooter that's worth playing (imo) is the division 2. It's so good

[@Convincing_Reality]

Yes, programmes programme games to the specification they are asked to. What's difficult to understand about that? Are they supposed to do all this extra work so they can give completely different options that weren't asked for?

[@griffiththechad9483]

22:09 Blade just needs to play like the Batman Arkham series but with guns and blades. We got a taste of it with Jason Todd in Arkham Knight.

[@since1990kevin]

A machine gun that turns into a lazer gun after 5 consecutive kills, a revolvers that shoots a rocket with aoe damage after 3headshots, an assault rifle that gives you bouncy bullets when you reload on the last five bullets or less without emptying the clip, there 3 fun guns out of the top of my head, why can’t they make fun guns?

[@CatsLilaSalem]

With Bioware, they used to focus on great singleplayer games. Being forced to online is already very difficult, and asking a singleplayer team to make a live service is even harder, it is just very different with how things work

[@AidilAfham]

Correction: The new Dragon Age started with them chasing trends, it was meant to be a live service game. It went through many changes and they ditched it and went back to single player. But the game development and design suffered from these changes. That’s why you can see bits of live service design in the new game.

[@angelarch5352]

Making a non-attractive Harley Quinn, is like making a fat short Superman.

[@jericohellsangel594]

I don´t like how he said "And then they dicided to divert into anthem and then into mass effect" like no they didn´t dicide that, the upper management and publisher dicided that and shit tons of people left the company due to that with a skeleton crew left behind. The devs never wanted to make those games but had to. Thats completly different context.

[@Thexis_]

I work in software development and sometimes customers want some specific feature. This is most of the time a good feature, but sometimes we get a request that is not good. We tell the customer and my leadership will just tell me to do it. So we do it and then the customer is not happy with it because it was a bad idea. So we need to revert the changes. When this happens, I usually get a very detailed spec from the customer so I know we do 100% what they asked for.

[@B81Jonny]

The gameplay of vampire survivors, the graphical fidelity (and simplicity) of Space Marines 2, the world building/story telling of Outer Wilds or Fallout New Vegas. These are some shining beacons that I hope inspire future game devs. There are so many different ways to make a great game, and gamers are parsing out the derivative cut-and-pastes at a MUCH faster clip than they used to.