Atari Falcon,Hatari and Videl graphics

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Commodore is not the only fruit

Commodore is not the only fruit

Күн бұрын

Today we take a look at Videl Graphics on the Falcon030, we:
- Install Videlity
- Configure for 256 color and True color modes
- Add a nice desktop wall paper
The hard disk image for the end state of this recording is available here: www.overtakenbyevents.com/Ata...
For instructions on where to find the HDD image and how to use it under Hatari,
check out this video: • Getting and using the ...
This video is part of a series. Previous videos in this series are:
how to install and configure MiNT in 2023
• How to install and con...
Chapters
00:00 - Introduction
01:31 - Install Videlity
03:06 - Configure 256 color mode
06:23 - Configure true color mode
09:52 - Setting our desktop background, surprise edition

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@Barnaclebeard
@Barnaclebeard 10 ай бұрын
Discovering MiNT was a defining moment in my life.
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit 10 ай бұрын
Made me feel like a real pro, a complete unix machine at my disposal!
@mrwibbles20
@mrwibbles20 10 ай бұрын
As someone who can remember walking into a store at the mall as a youth and seeing the blue CLI and workbench of 1.3 Amiga and the green bumblebee desktop of Atari ST, there's something that just feels timeless about both. Seeing you upgrade the Atari ST desktop is great retro value I am enjoying a lot. While I only used an Amiga, I have to say what you're doing with the ST destop looks a lot better than what I see people doing today with their Amiga upgrades. Keep up the great videos! 👍
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit 9 ай бұрын
Really glad you like it. There are some great desktops for the Amiga nowadays. @ChrisEdwardsRestoration PiMiga distrobution is stunning
@ixion8666
@ixion8666 10 ай бұрын
Thank You for all this videos about configuration our Atari's computer, it's a great inspiration for me.
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit 10 ай бұрын
I great to hear you like them.
@ernestuz
@ernestuz 10 ай бұрын
My knowledge of Atari machines is basically ST and STE, the machines I had (shared with my brothers, of course). I wanted a Falcon, but by the time I got into the university and got a 486 PC instead, today for the first time I didn't have a clue... Thanks for your videos.
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit 10 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoy them. I enjoy making them.
@danielktdoranie
@danielktdoranie 10 ай бұрын
When you are done is there any hope of you uploading this is image to Google Drive and sharing it with us mere mortals?
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit 10 ай бұрын
I didn't mention it in the video but I do upload the HDD images most of the time. I have updated the description of this video to say where to get them. There's also a link to a video on how to use that image in Hatari (plus some extra instructions on the page about what config I use now) Hope you can use them and have fun
@mercster
@mercster 10 ай бұрын
Hah yep, writing Xconfigs by hand in the early 90s... I was just a teenager, surprising I didn't break any monitors. Definitely heard some high pitched whines at one point...
@mercster
@mercster 10 ай бұрын
Also brings to mind being able to switch between different modelines on the fly with some key combination... Ctrl-Alt-+ I think? Don't quite remember if that could switch between color depths though.
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit 10 ай бұрын
I think the montors I could afford in those daya were not exactly the best!
@christopher3d475
@christopher3d475 7 ай бұрын
I used to have an Atari 1040ST in about 1986. I love having this installed on my M1Pro laptop. I've been looking for a few graphic demos that I had back in the day, one was a bunch of bouncing spheres or marbles. The other was a bouncing rianbow Atari logo. But I've not been able to find them anywhere.
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit 7 ай бұрын
I think i just said this in a different thread. But asking in the forums and someone will usually know the name. After that it's a google search away. for software things: www.atari-forum.com and for more hardware related: www.exxosforum.co.uk/forum/index.php
@nokturnal_
@nokturnal_ 4 ай бұрын
Nice videos. Just one note. 4th is not is not bitplane mode. There is no palette LUT there, color data is stored directly in screen memory in one word and is not spread across 16 bitplanes.
@goddessesstartrekonlinefle3061
@goddessesstartrekonlinefle3061 10 ай бұрын
Excellent! Thanks. You know, you are still period authentic! My personal Atari Falcon (bought at the time) is 32mhz, and, one of the options I was given when buying it was to upgrade it a 040 CPU (I couldn't afford that or the 14mb upgrade :|. That was prohibitively expensive, like neark 2k expensive, but it WAS definitely an option :D). As far as I understood (at the time), the 040 didn't bring all that much advantage for me over the overclocked 030 that I got (I was told it might have brought some incompatabilities with software). That said, it was a third party upgrade option, not an official Atari upgrade though, but period authentic.
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for your generousity :-) The video I did was really about 'stock' configs. You se 68060 boards for the falcon and TT from third parties. I had a play with using a 060 in Hatari, unfortunately one of the app that had a hard time with that processor was zView and it's one of my favourite apps.
@goddessesstartrekonlinefle3061
@goddessesstartrekonlinefle3061 10 ай бұрын
@@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit its possible you might end up finding the mysterious "incompatibilites" I was told having an 040 would cause me (in fairness the vendor was probably keen to convince my father, who was very very dubious and clearly hesitant to even buy me the stock 030, I remember, so well, the pleeding and promises of "no future expensive requests", and finally the fear I'd end up with nothing, because the sales person was telling the entire truth about the Falcons likely future, lol. So VERY glad I got one, even if everyone else thought it was a very poor/silly investment :D, in fairness I guess they where half right, but to me its irriplaceable). I definitely wasn't given the 060 option back in the day though. We did buy from a legitimate Atari UK dealer though (but at the end days of Atari, not sure that meant too much). I did see/lust after the "Atari Eagle" custom computer (with an expansion bus) featured in ST Format. Though, that hardware was definitely a bridge too far the Falcon was my last expensive computer. Thanks again for these enjoyable and useful videos!
@earx23
@earx23 4 ай бұрын
I remember all of this but miss none of it. 😂
@MrDivingfool
@MrDivingfool 10 ай бұрын
Another great video! I have a falcon but it’s all stock everything. I’m going to have to use xboot and start trying these alternative os/utilities. I hear you can bypass stock tos in rom and boot emutos. I’ll have to try that out.
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit 10 ай бұрын
I think you can boot emutos, though mint and Videlity should be compatible with the latter TOS variants, I think. And certainly Geneva and NeoDesk will be. It'll also depend on how much RAM you have. If it's 4MB or less you'll struggle with MiNT unfortunately.
@mmille10
@mmille10 10 ай бұрын
@@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit - I guess there's more to it now. What I remember was running MiNT on my 1 MB Mega STe, again, in 1993, and then upgrading to 4 MB. I forget how much Mint took up, maybe 256 or 512K. This was just with the stock GEM desktop. These alternate AES replacements didn't exist then for the open source version. The only alternative I remember being around was X/Windows, and I heard you really needed 4+ MB for that.
@arifeldman6365
@arifeldman6365 8 ай бұрын
What was the performance hit for going above 640x480x256? I remember on a stock Falcon it wasn't super fast in that mode.
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit 7 ай бұрын
That's a great question. I'm looking to do a 1 year aniversay video later in the year and hopefully I'll be addressing questions which require a longer answer./ I'll stick this one on the list
@stephanepitteloud1849
@stephanepitteloud1849 10 ай бұрын
nice vidéo! Is the image usable on a real falcon with CT60e?
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit 10 ай бұрын
If your falcon has more than 4mb of memory, the image might be adaptable. This image doesn't have any HDD drivers installed, so those would have to be added over it. If you have an SD card reader like SD4ST and a second SD card slot, that might work. But could be difficult. But if you combine the previous video on this series (link in the description as they say) and what I did in this one, it should be fairly easy to follow along.
@stephanepitteloud1849
@stephanepitteloud1849 10 ай бұрын
@@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit ok, thanks. Yes, i have 256 Mb an à 060 CPU. But I fear I don’t have the required knowledge in Atari to be able to do that. Any chance that you make an image for the falcon in the future ?
@Storm_.
@Storm_. 10 ай бұрын
Dark wind-frame is a lot nicer than default by the way...
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit 10 ай бұрын
It's just a matter of personal preference. I like the default one. My main issue with the dark skin is the postion of the close / back button in the far right of the title bar. It seems like i'm always moveing my mouse miles to perform a common action. I also recollect having seen a couple of third party skins. Maybe i'll hunt some down and have a skin-off in a future vid.
@AdamKlobukowski
@AdamKlobukowski 10 ай бұрын
You should try Aranym. No need for Videlity and way faster (no limitation of 32MHz)
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit 10 ай бұрын
I did, but I had issues. For me on a mac it's not that usable. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a2nWZZxmfb6cl5I It's great fun but, I did a little digging and it looks like it's related to SDLC 1 compatability. But I get flicker and appalling mouse capture.
@user-oz1ix5pd4c
@user-oz1ix5pd4c 5 ай бұрын
Они не вытянули, не выдержали конкуренции с процессорами семейства x86 от Intel и AMD... С мощью этих сотен мегагерц... Боссы компаний решили свернуть производство, так как дальнейшая борьба уже не имела смысла...
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit 4 ай бұрын
i don't know if google translate nailed what you mean but from what it says, you're right, the ST line died out and Intel won. But I still have tremendous love for the ST line of computers.
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