Atari Falcon,Hatari and Videl graphics

[@Barnaclebeard]

Discovering MiNT was a defining moment in my life.

[@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit]

Made me feel like a real pro, a complete unix machine at my disposal!

[@ixion8666]

Thank You for all this videos about configuration our Atari's computer, it's a great inspiration for me.

[@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit]

I great to hear you like them.

[@mrwibbles20]

As someone who can remember walking into a store at the mall as a youth and seeing the blue CLI and workbench of 1.3 Amiga and the green bumblebee desktop of Atari ST, there's something that just feels timeless about both. Seeing you upgrade the Atari ST desktop is great retro value I am enjoying a lot. While I only used an Amiga, I have to say what you're doing with the ST destop looks a lot better than what I see people doing today with their Amiga upgrades. Keep up the great videos! 👍

[@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit]

Really glad you like it. There are some great desktops for the Amiga nowadays. @ChrisEdwardsRestoration PiMiga distrobution is stunning

[@ernestuz]

My knowledge of Atari machines is basically ST and STE, the machines I had (shared with my brothers, of course). I wanted a Falcon, but by the time I got into the university and got a 486 PC instead, today for the first time I didn't have a clue... Thanks for your videos.

[@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit]

Glad you enjoy them. I enjoy making them.

[@danielktdoranie]

When you are done is there any hope of you uploading this is image to Google Drive and sharing it with us mere mortals?

[@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit]

I didn't mention it in the video but I do upload the HDD images most of the time. I have updated the description of this video to say where to get them. There's also a link to a video on how to use that image in Hatari (plus some extra instructions on the page about what config I use now) Hope you can use them and have fun

[@christopher3d475]

I used to have an Atari 1040ST in about 1986. I love having this installed on my M1Pro laptop. I've been looking for a few graphic demos that I had back in the day, one was a bunch of bouncing spheres or marbles. The other was a bouncing rianbow Atari logo. But I've not been able to find them anywhere.

[@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit]

I think i just said this in a different thread. But asking in the forums and someone will usually know the name. After that it's a google search away. for software things: www.atari-forum.com and for more hardware related: www.exxosforum.co.uk/forum/index.php

[@mercster]

Hah yep, writing Xconfigs by hand in the early 90s... I was just a teenager, surprising I didn't break any monitors. Definitely heard some high pitched whines at one point...

[@mercster]

Also brings to mind being able to switch between different modelines on the fly with some key combination... Ctrl-Alt-+ I think? Don't quite remember if that could switch between color depths though.

[@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit]

I think the montors I could afford in those daya were not exactly the best!

[@goddessesstartrekonlinefle3061]

Excellent! Thanks. You know, you are still period authentic! My personal Atari Falcon (bought at the time) is 32mhz, and, one of the options I was given when buying it was to upgrade it a 040 CPU (I couldn't afford that or the 14mb upgrade :|. That was prohibitively expensive, like neark 2k expensive, but it WAS definitely an option :D). As far as I understood (at the time), the 040 didn't bring all that much advantage for me over the overclocked 030 that I got (I was told it might have brought some incompatabilities with software). That said, it was a third party upgrade option, not an official Atari upgrade though, but period authentic.

[@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit]

Thank you for your generousity :-) The video I did was really about 'stock' configs. You se 68060 boards for the falcon and TT from third parties. I had a play with using a 060 in Hatari, unfortunately one of the app that had a hard time with that processor was zView and it's one of my favourite apps.

[@goddessesstartrekonlinefle3061]

@@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit its possible you might end up finding the mysterious "incompatibilites" I was told having an 040 would cause me (in fairness the vendor was probably keen to convince my father, who was very very dubious and clearly hesitant to even buy me the stock 030, I remember, so well, the pleeding and promises of "no future expensive requests", and finally the fear I'd end up with nothing, because the sales person was telling the entire truth about the Falcons likely future, lol. So VERY glad I got one, even if everyone else thought it was a very poor/silly investment :D, in fairness I guess they where half right, but to me its irriplaceable). I definitely wasn't given the 060 option back in the day though. We did buy from a legitimate Atari UK dealer though (but at the end days of Atari, not sure that meant too much). I did see/lust after the "Atari Eagle" custom computer (with an expansion bus) featured in ST Format. Though, that hardware was definitely a bridge too far the Falcon was my last expensive computer. Thanks again for these enjoyable and useful videos!

[@powerofvintage9442]

​ @commodoreisnottheonlyfruit I'm running on a 68060 (CT63) equipped falcon and zView works nicely under mint for me with real hardware. Thank you for these instructions...while I wasn't able to get Videlity working well with my Falcon and OSSC, this inspired me to figure it out. I've gotten Blowup working with 960x608 flawlessly outputing through the OSSC to HDMI for modern screens / screen capture. THANK YOU!!

[@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit]

@powerofvintage9442 that sounds awesome.

[@nokturnal_]

Nice videos. Just one note. 4th is not is not bitplane mode. There is no palette LUT there, color data is stored directly in screen memory in one word and is not spread across 16 bitplanes.

[@AdamKlobukowski]

You should try Aranym. No need for Videlity and way faster (no limitation of 32MHz)

[@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit]

I did, but I had issues. For me on a mac it's not that usable. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a2nWZZxmfb6cl5I It's great fun but, I did a little digging and it looks like it's related to SDLC 1 compatability. But I get flicker and appalling mouse capture.

[@MrDivingfool]

Another great video! I have a falcon but it’s all stock everything. I’m going to have to use xboot and start trying these alternative os/utilities. I hear you can bypass stock tos in rom and boot emutos. I’ll have to try that out.

[@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit]

I think you can boot emutos, though mint and Videlity should be compatible with the latter TOS variants, I think. And certainly Geneva and NeoDesk will be. It'll also depend on how much RAM you have. If it's 4MB or less you'll struggle with MiNT unfortunately.

[@mmille10]

@@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit - I guess there's more to it now. What I remember was running MiNT on my 1 MB Mega STe, again, in 1993, and then upgrading to 4 MB. I forget how much Mint took up, maybe 256 or 512K. This was just with the stock GEM desktop. These alternate AES replacements didn't exist then for the open source version. The only alternative I remember being around was X/Windows, and I heard you really needed 4+ MB for that.

[@stephanepitteloud1849]

nice vidéo! Is the image usable on a real falcon with CT60e?

[@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit]

If your falcon has more than 4mb of memory, the image might be adaptable. This image doesn't have any HDD drivers installed, so those would have to be added over it. If you have an SD card reader like SD4ST and a second SD card slot, that might work. But could be difficult. But if you combine the previous video on this series (link in the description as they say) and what I did in this one, it should be fairly easy to follow along.

[@stephanepitteloud1849]

@@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit ok, thanks. Yes, i have 256 Mb an à 060 CPU. But I fear I don’t have the required knowledge in Atari to be able to do that. Any chance that you make an image for the falcon in the future ?

[@arifeldman6365]

What was the performance hit for going above 640x480x256? I remember on a stock Falcon it wasn't super fast in that mode.

[@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit]

That's a great question. I'm looking to do a 1 year aniversay video later in the year and hopefully I'll be addressing questions which require a longer answer./ I'll stick this one on the list

[@Storm_.]

Dark wind-frame is a lot nicer than default by the way...

[@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit]

It's just a matter of personal preference. I like the default one. My main issue with the dark skin is the postion of the close / back button in the far right of the title bar. It seems like i'm always moveing my mouse miles to perform a common action. I also recollect having seen a couple of third party skins. Maybe i'll hunt some down and have a skin-off in a future vid.

[@earx23]

I remember all of this but miss none of it. 😂

[@Роман_К78]

Они не вытянули, не выдержали конкуренции с процессорами семейства x86 от Intel и AMD... С мощью этих сотен мегагерц... Боссы компаний решили свернуть производство, так как дальнейшая борьба уже не имела смысла...

[@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit]

i don't know if google translate nailed what you mean but from what it says, you're right, the ST line died out and Intel won. But I still have tremendous love for the ST line of computers.