Atari Panther - Cancelled Console - Atari Jaguar Predecessor - THGM

[@ScarletDeath]

I love these videos. I've always wanted to hear about all these canceled consoles.

[@6581punk]

I hate to think what the Panther would have been like had it been rushed out. The Jaguar was bad enough. All Atari needed to do was release another revision of the Jaguar chipset to fix a major bug (DMA issue I think) and it would have performed a lot better. Developer support was dire and documentation poor, if you don't look after developers then you get bad games and/or very few games. That's what happened.

[@jadedheartsz]

Jaguar wasn't that bad

[@franco7363]

Love your channel. Is very original in tone and style. Hope it only keeps on growing.

[@backup368]

I don't like the term "jagwire" either.

[@leaderx7547]

You could cover the PHANTOM console that was supposed to have been released in the 00s.

[@larkprof]

Love watching these! I appreciate how much work you put into these every week. You should have way more viewership than you currently do! Good show!

[@xWindreaderx]

Its nice to see that you made a video about this! ☺👍

[@hatednyc]

I was suckered into getting the Atari XE. Luckily I was horribly spoiled and my dad got me an NES less than a year later

[@fattiger6957]

Do a video about that super powerful handheld Nintendo was working on in the mid-90s. I think it was called Project Atlantis.

[@shaungreer3350]

If they’d just released a 16 bit game console and focused on new games instead of older arcade ports then it’d be good

[@ArneChristianRosenfeldt]

So you propose to split the available ram into 4 banks, each 16bit? CPU + sound, tiles+textures, z buffer or tile map, frame buffers ?

[@JMFSpike]

The Panther probably wouldn't have gone anywhere. It would have been released during a time where the market was being flooded by other consoles and add-ons that could do the same kind of things the Panther would have done. It had nothing to make it stand out from the crowd. They were smart to go with the Jaguar instead. The Jaguar was extremely impressive at the time. Unfortunately, it just didn't have any system sellers. Also, way too many 2D games that looked only slightly better then SNES games.

[@brianoconnell6459]

Typo spotted: It isn't a 68,000 processor, it's a 68000 processor, much like a 80486 isn't a 80,486.

[@RetroUnlim]

Atari Panther, 60% of the time it works every time.

[@zackschilling4376]

its got bits of real panther in it

[@jacobswayze527]

RetroUnlim.com that has a strong smell it stings the nostrils, actually that smells like pure gasoline

[@alopexau]

Atari NEVER knew what they were doing, they always just flailed around throwing darts at a board from day one and any of their successes can be boiled down to luck and timing.

[@supersat]

wait... you said it had a Motorola 68k, but didn't mention the Sega Genesis/Mega Drive had the same processor? (Albeit at about half the clock speed)

[@paranormalzen]

Karl Koscher It was a very popular CPU and was used in lots of things, including Commodore Amiga, Apple Mac, Atari ST and Neo Geo AES.

[@webakefornobody731]

Anyone know the name of the game at @6:24? I've been looking for that one quite a while :)

[@adrianotrancoso9793]

Impossible Mission?

[@Sinn0100]

The 68000 processor is also in the Sega Genesis and the Neo Geo AES. The Sega Genesis processor is clocked at 7.5 mhz and the AES at 12 mhz. What's interesting is both the Genesis and AES have the same processor setup featuring a 16-bit processor and an 8-bit co-processor. Now of course that dose not mean that they were even close to equal as the AES had so much extra hardware within the unit as well as the giant cartridges (I love those double PCB boards).

[@Sinn0100]

Damn, can't edit...I would like to see the Nuone (I think that is how it was spelled) or possibly the Atlantis like another poster requested. I wouldn't mind seeing a video on the almost collaboration of Sega and Microsoft after the death of the Dreamcast. Finally, if you are hankering for an unreleased game...I would love to see your take on Half Life for the Sega Dreamcast. I actually died a little inside when that was officially cancelled.

[@leaderx7547]

Eerything to know about the Nuon. arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/06/before-the-ps2-nuon-famously-tried-and-failed-to-combine-dvd-and-game-consoles/

[@orderofmagnitude-TPATP]

1985.... the ST was very powerful for that time period. Same with amiga as well really.

[@entertainmentwizard2703]

I think had Atari launched the Panther it might have actually stood a chance, it was going to be a 32 bit console which seemed pretty powerful for the time and also unlike the Jaguar had a simple architecture meaning taking full advantage of the consoles capabilities would have been a lot easier and the system would have likely gotten a lot of good and impressive looking games and the success of the Panther would have given Atari more time to prefect the Jaguar's design so when the Jaguar launched it would have had far better development kits and the hardware would have been the best it could be!

[@CaptainCaveman1170]

I felt like you do until I thought about how even SEGA could not properly follow up the massive success of their Genesis with another successful generation and were absolutely clobbered by Sony only a few years after the Genesis peaked. I have a feeling that the Panther would have been an "OK" console, with a paltry library, and it would not have fared much better than the other 80's-90's Atari systems. They lost their focus with the 5200,7800 and there was simply no coming back from those mistakes, in my opinion. They would have needed the 7800 to be a credible competitor to the NES, AND a credible 16-bit generation console, too...but they had neither.

[@entertainmentwizard2703]

You have some valid points but I think had the Panther launched it would have had several years of power dominance and as long as the console was at a good price point and Atari delivered solid games I do believe the system would have stood a chance but yes Atari would have had a major uphill battle!

[@fernandojronline]

Atari was dead in home console market even before launching 7800. To be honest, except by the 2600, I've never seen any other Atari console. I don't even know if they were released here in Brazil.

[@gwenynorisu6883]

That's pretty much because they made such a terrible job of the 5200 (should have been easy - take existing computer line, simplify it into console form, release games modified to work without needing the keyboard or at least more than the fairly basic keyset that the console would have available, and make them so they'll play either on both systems, or just the computers, to avoid potential disappointments), from its sheer bulk to the tangle of too-short cables it produced to those dreadful joysticks and a surprising paucity of directly compatible software (it's a good candidate for having directly contributed to the videogame crash, in fact), and then ended up sitting on the otherwise hot-to-trot 7800 seemingly because the ST project was too much of a distraction or something, to the point that the NES and Master System were able to utterly slay it (in relative terms - five million global sales isn't too bad in late 70s/early 80s terms, but compared even to the SMS it's not that great and the NES utterly slayed it). Plus they seemed to more or less forget any market other than western Europe existed soon after the ST's launch. Not really the behaviour of a company that wants its consoles to sell well, or that wants to leverage sales of its product in as many potential markets as it possibly can.

[@TPRES_74]

Even back in the early 90's most Gamer's knew Atari Jaguar was doomed to fail before it began.

[@naekemuel1991]

Panther might have chance

[@Sprited]

A video on Nintendo's project Atlantis would be neat

[@personavisceration371]

Wasn't that the Game Boy Advance?

[@colefitzpatrick8431]

Nope, Project Atlantis was its own obscure Game Boy project that got quietly announced at a conference and even more quietly cancelled, if I recall correctly.

[@patrickwebb7311]

I find it funny I got a Top Hatter dating app ad for this video. Too perfect. Good video, and...subscribed.

[@helenFX]

great stuff :). I had never even heard of this console.

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[@0BRAINS0]

Hi Helen

[@QunMang]

Our pronunciation is actually closer to jayg-wahr rather than jayg-wire. Think if we pronounced the U as a W instead.

[@ZakkHung]

I really like the look of the Panther. Too bad we never got to see it. :(

[@Zecifer]

Nintendo should have used the 68000 in the SNES, would have been comparable to Mega Drive in CPU heavy titles as well as benefiting from easier porting for third parties.

[@waterheart95]

Actually per clock the snes was faster than genesis at the same speed, however nintendo clocked the snes cpu low for backwards compatibility that was never used and apparently to save costs. The snes cpu was usually used in apple 2 gs at much higher speeds.

[@maroon9273]

waterheart95 also made the SA1 for snes as a enhancement chip. If only the SA1 came out like a two or three years earlier. It would be help the snes greatly.

[@MrRaphaelRobinson]

He can't help but hate on that NES 😂😂

[@pferreira1983]

Who in their right mind wouldn't?

[@camulodunon]

As an American, I never liked the NES.

[@raymxslappedyall1891]

what did games use carts,discs,floppies? cuz theres only one slot for games on there and it looks pretty flat

[@jimmybiggs9230]

Atari made jaguar for nothing. Why put two 32 bit processor's in a game system if programmers could not use them? A waste of money! They should have stuck with the panther and gave it 16 Meg's of ram.

[@AaronPaluzzi]

I'd love to say the panther would have done well being based on the Atari ST line. I would have had a leg up on the Jaguar because it would have probably been extremely easy to develop for and port games to from the ST. Unfortunately this would have probably been a failure as well though more successful than the Jaguar. Why? A few reasons. 1) Atari more or less blew consumer good will in the 80s. The 2600 was a great system despite it's limitations, and if Atari had actually released the Atari XL as a followup they probably would still be around today. Instead the 5200 and it's quality problems (in addition to being incompatible with the Atari 8bit line of software despite using a lot of the tech) burned consumers. Nintendo and Sega released quality platforms and stuck with them. Atari kept throwing things at a wall to see what would stick. 2) This exact type of thing had been tried by many companies in the UK. Both lower quality units like the Amstrad home games console and the Commodore 64G and much better ones like the Amiga CD32. Those never really took off either. 3) Atari does hold a lot of quality retro titles, but how many titles at the time were truly fresh? Hey I love Yar's Revenge and Tempest, but lets face it if you have those games on every console you produce why should people upgrade? Pole Position was on darn near every console out there in the 80s. They kept that up through the Jaguar. Tempest 2000 was one of the best titles on that system. But were there really a lot of quality exclusive unique titles? Maybe on the ST? THGM would have to fill me in there as being in the US I missed out on the Atari ST and Amiga platforms.

[@AaronPaluzzi]

@Goodie that's what the 5200 was. Unfortunately it was hamstrung by the garbage controller. Costcutting the company to death.

[@pferreira1983]

Not sure it would have helped. The Panther may have just saturated the market even further. More time and development needed to be spent on the Jaguar.

[@jaked3231]

Hey Top Hat Gaming Man. Could you do a piece on the Cancelled *Phantom* game console from Infinity labs?

[@CptKennyLoggins]

Imagine focusing on games and not bits.

[@random_gamer_guy82]

Can't wait for 2018...the Atari castrated tabby tomcat

[@gozert1803]

"Everyone loves a bit of Russian collusion after all!" 😂

[@donaldsmith5790]

Could you review the Emerson arcades game system?

[@Jarod_Schultz]

Justin Bateman was everywhere back in the 80's.

[@projectw.a.a.p.f.t.a.d7762]

Well we finally got the new Atari, the Atari VCS now they need an exclusive contract of some sort with Google stadia and develope a seamless os for new online gaming capabilities with other past consoles fallowing suit. That'd be cool, if it'd ever happen.

[@matthewwraith5385]

Msx and sharp sx68000 maybe I've recently learnt that they exist would like to now more.

[@leaderx7547]

The three Jaguar launch titles (Cybermorph, Raiden and Trevor McFur in the Crescent Galaxy) were originally developed for the Panther. So the Panther would have flopped if it had been released, due to having the same crap games as the Jaguar.

[@johnwilliams8026]

Not true. This was debunked by both Leonard Tramiel from Atari and the developers of both CyberMorph and Crescent Galaxy. The only Jaguar games that started on Panther were Raiden and Dino Dudes.

[@leaderx7547]

Leonard Tramiel also said no outside developers worked on Panther games. Some outside developers disagree. I've just had another look at the Panther's supposed specs, and it wasn't 3D capable. So maybe Cybermorph wasn't developed for the Jaguar, but the other games were developed by Atari themselves.

[@johnwilliams8026]

According to co-creator B.J. West, Crescent Galaxy was inspired by Starfox, so there is no way it was ever a Panther title (he also said it was Jag from day 1). Raiden was programmed by Imagitec Design and ex-Imagitec staff stated that the Panther version of Raiden was ported to the Falcon before being abandoned so they could get the Jaguar port done instead. Fred Gill of ATD stated CyberMorph was never a Panther game although they did experiment with a Blue Lighting like flying demo to throw around sprites so that's where people may have got confused.

[@leaderx7547]

Crescent Galaxy was a side scrolling shooter. Side scrolling shooters had been around for a few years. Starfox is an on-rails shooter. How can Starfox inspire Crescent Galaxy more than other side scrolling shooters ??? Also Starfox was released in March 1993. Crescent Galaxy was released in Nov 1993.

[@KGRAMR]

Inspired in the sense of the animal characters.

[@stevesmith1496]

Good video, sir. In the future sir, I would be interested in a video about the entire Bleemcast fisco. I own the three put out but would have loved more. I know Sony sued them to death but is that all is to the story? And what happened to the original plans of each disc supporting 100 games! Reeee!! But really, I think that could make for an interesting video.

[@personavisceration371]

Guru Larry has a good one, and he's a proper Brit, so not a big jump.

[@stevesmith1496]

kraig keller Yeah, his was good to. Just would like to hear Mister Hats thoughts! Yeeeaaah!!

[@neilcarleton9084]

How about a video on the Super A'Can. Not an unreleased console but one that was only released in Taiwan so it's pretty damn obscure.

[@matthewwraith5385]

I have played one on retropie great graphics for its time but honestly I didn't miss much I would have missed more if had not had a MD of SNES.

[@CPS2]

Lies.

[@orderofmagnitude-TPATP]

Can't wait for the konix vid.

[@matthewlane518]

Where did you learn to fly?

[@leaderx7547]

This time next year, you could do a video on the cancelled NEW Atari VCS. :-D

[@CaseyNydahl]

Guess not lol

[@leaderx7547]

@@CaseyNydahl LOL !!! This comment was relevant for two and a half years. I was surprised when it eventually got released. I didn't believe it would ever happen.

[@kenshinflyer]

Hmm. If not for a CES meltdown involving Atari, Nintendo, and Coleco, that Famicom would have sported an Atari badge in the US.

[@TheShospitali]

Well the Panther never made it to market so we don't know?

[@obsidian9998]

Why did Intento's games looked more efficiently made and consistent with there hardware abilities; meanwhile, most of other platforms seem varying in quality. A flight simulator games for instance looked limited by the hardware or underwhelming designed as a result.

[@leaderx7547]

Flight Simulator was a very early attempt at 3D. 3D games from the 80s and 90s don't hold up well today.

[@colefitzpatrick8431]

Is it just me or does he seem sick?

[@paranormalzen]

King Koleyolis III Unfortunately, he is at the moment. Hopefully, he will be better soon.

[@colefitzpatrick8431]

V3n0m7 Yeah, here's hoping he gets better

[@6581punk]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jovTfaCbicmWeKM

[@matthewwraith5385]

I would like to hear about unreleased platform's not released in the uk

[@TopHatGamingManChannel]

Do you mean platforms simply not released in the UK? I have made videos on the Nintendo Virtual Boy and the Bandai Wonderswan. Those are two platforms that made it elsewhere.

[@matthewwraith5385]

They are great and informative but I want more.

[@roberthornibrook6344]

Wasn't Cybermorph supposedly meant for the Panther hence the reason why it kept asking you where did you learn to fly?

[@techeadache]

Would anyone buy an Atari Panther Classic Edition? It might be a decent stop gap for the Atari Box. :-?

[@robchissy]

how about a video on who were the biggest consol rivals over the decades, such as now it;s xbox vs sony and a time when it was nintendo vs sega

[@matthewwraith5385]

I had a friend who had one but we went allowed in his house to play it . # bullshit

[@garethbeaton8414]

Miss my jag with alines vr preorderd

[@jaegood]

Lol twitch every Saturday at 9pm you must have unbelievable luck with the ladies/dudes what ever floates you boat 🚣‍♀️ nah jus messing with ya I enjoy you video

[@conradojavier7547]

I wish we had an Atari Tiger.

[@ZBott]

Why is it only Nintendo that seems to understand while having a better box is neat it's the games that sell systems? Atari clearly ran by committee lacking a single person who was the target of the systems.

[@Artsensei86]

Cheers THGM!

[@lexingtRick]

ATARI deserve their 2013 bankruptcy protection.

[@personavisceration371]

Serious question: is it common in the UK to pronounce the letters ZX as 'Zed Ecks' as you do in your vids? Us yanks usually say 'Zee Ecks'.

[@TopHatGamingManChannel]

Indeed, the letter zed is only pronounced zee in simplified American English.

[@paranormalzen]

kraig keller Yes, we say Zed. You say Zeeebra, we say Zebra.

[@matthewwraith5385]

Have done one on the PC engine

[@ColeslawVariant]

The shells of the console were sold to Proctologists just as the Jaguar shells were used for dental equiptment.

[@jacklazzaro9820]

All who luv that intro music, like & reply

[@chrischris02]

Atari probably should have pushed out the Panther instead of the Jaguar.

[@WeSRT4]

We'll pronounce Jaguar how we damn well please. We don't need instruction from the has been united "kingdom".

[@Sum-yo2kl]

I love the checkered flag theme

[@chengxiaoshi3461]

whens the twitch streams im missing them stargazinggaming

[@matthewwraith5385]

Gizmondo

[@RSans4210]

LGR did a great video on it

[@BlezzBeats]

First in the movie they put BLACK PANTHER and now they put ATARI PANTHER looool

[@HCRAYERT.]

Why upload the same video twice?

[@TopHatGamingManChannel]

The previous one was not showing up on my list of uploads on my main page. I infer that it may have been something to do with the KZbin shootings that were taking place at the same time.

[@HCRAYERT.]

Top Hat Gaming Man I see

[@paranormalzen]

Top Hat Gaming Man There have been problems with KZbin for at least a few days.

[@TopHatGamingManChannel]

This one hasnt shown up either...

[@paranormalzen]

Top Hat Gaming Man Probably not much you can do until KZbin fix things. The video is there to view at least from the Twitter link, so it's a backend issue somewhere as I don't see it listed on your channel either. Update - It does now display the video when I check your channel.

[@matthewwraith5385]

Neo geo as good as unreleased as no could afford one.

[@leaderx7547]

It eventually got cheaper.

[@ToploadedGaming]

I will pronounce Gradius as Graydius as log as I live, and Jaguar as Jaguire. Deal with it brah!

[@alomonwo]

That intro is so British.

[@chrisschumacher8553]

The trouble with the Jaguar was that it impossible to program for, it had an architecture which was too complex and there were virtually no one who could program it well (I think the best Jaguar programmers are people who did homebrew games long after the system was declared dead). These are the exact problems Sega ran with the Saturn a few years later. The Panther on the other hand was a simple, familiar design that was also more powerful than either the Genesis or the SNES. I honestly believe that Atari would've won the 16-bit generation console wars if they'd gone with the Panther instead of the Jaguar.

[@ArneChristianRosenfeldt]

The Jaguar architecture is simple: everything sits on a common bus. Easy to debug for the hardware devs. Zero parallel operation.

[@ArneChristianRosenfeldt]

The Jaguar architecture is simple: everything sits on a common bus. Easy to debug for the hardware devs. Zero parallel operation.

[@borrellipatrick]

Baffled at you at being baffled on Americans perferring consoles over micro computers 😅 I feel bad for you guys setteling to play games on awful micro computers in the 80s instead on better consoles 😎

[@gwenynorisu6883]

Our microcomputers in the 80s weren't awful though. We had the Amiga and indeed the ST, as well as the Archimedes, some examples of MSX standard machines (which were pretty much 8-bit consoles with keyboards and more RAM), and even reasonable cheap alternatives like the CPC (and you could probably include the C64 in that). Excepting the really basic things like the Spectrum - which was miles cheaper than any Japanese console, and about the same price as an IBM floppy drive, and had a vast library of extremely cheap cassette tape software (the price of one NES cartridge could have got you 4 or 5 Speccy tapes) so could be absolved of a lot of sins for its sheet accessibility - it was the US that had the really nasty home micros of the 80s. The Apple II, VIC20, IBM PC (through to the end of the EGA era, excepting maybe the rare titles that ran in EGA-high) and PCjr, Tandy 1000s and Cocos and TRS80s, even the original Mac... I would not have wanted to be a gamer on any of those decidedly business-and-education oriented crocks. Other than the shared C64, about the only real highlight was the Colecovision, and that was essentially a very early MSX-ish type machine, with guts pretty similar to the Sega SG1000 console/SG3000 computer (which was later upgraded into the SMS), and Coleco's history is itself a patchy one that saw a rather premature exit from the computer market after a series of debacles. And of course the Atari 8-bit range, but that sort of straddled the computer/console line itself and then was overshadowed by the ST. So it's little wonder you ended up opting for one of those crapsacks to do "real" work on (nevermind the PC/XT's real-world performance was worse than an Atari XL, especially if outfitted with an 80-column card), backed up with a console for playing games. The weird thing is that you went so all-in for the NES, whose main selling points were that it could be turned into a full computer (...if you lived in Japan only), and that Nintendo had insanely restrictive licensing terms that meant if you launched a game on their machine first, it had to remain exclusive to it for several years... and with an almost empty field to play on in 1983, they quickly snaffled up most of the hot new licenses at a time when the arcades were just getting intereting. _In Japan and North America,_ that is - they forgot to extend those terms to cover Europe, let alone worldwide sales. So whilst you guys could only play, e.g. Contra on NES, we had a much wider choice of hardware that hosted a port of it. I mean, come 1985, the Master System became an option. Limited joypad button complement, slightly lower vertical rez (not really ever a realworld issue) and simpler soundchip aside (it's one of history's all time dumb decisions that Sega elected not to include the FM synth outside of Japanese models), it's easily a match for or better than the NES in almost every single way, especially in terms of colour. But you even shunned _that,_ preferring instead to continue sucking Ninty's Konkey-Dong, whereas it became console of choice for the discerning Eurogamer. But, despite its greater power, it was still dumped on by the Amiga, which was both a decent computer AND an excellent, Megadrive-challenging games console in a single, compact case, selling for somewhat more than an 8-bit games machine but decidedly less than the IBMs and Macs... in fact, barely any more than an Apple II. Or if you didn't quite have that money to spend, or had other reasons for preferring it (as it had more USPs than just power without the price), there was the ST. Sonically a bit like the Mastersystem, graphically quite similar to it (better colour palette range, fewer onscreen colours than it or the NES without special tricks but able to easily exceed them if you bothered to refine your code, higher resolution than both), but with a keyboard and much greater memory, ,generally much larger game storage space (its famed "Mega Cartridges" only held 128kb), and far better CPU power, enough that for anything other than maybe fluid full-screen scrolling behind fast moving platformer it was still a stronger performer than any contemporary console (i.e. it wasn't the best for pulling off a Sonic or Mario without accepting a little frameskip - the Amiga was your better choice for that - but every other game type ran as well or better). And again, it was a full featured home computer, with better colour screen modes than CGA, better palette than (and largely the same popular modes as) EGA/Tandy, being only slightly pipped by the Amiga (especially if you ran the latter in a mode which didn't suffer slowdown without FastRAM), a flicker free high rez that was easier on the eye than almost anything else on the market (and only really beaten for resolution by IBM'S PGA, the price of which alone could buy you five full ST systems; Hercules and other hi-rez super-CGAs had the same pixel counts or even the exact same rez but were more flickery, and the Mac and Amiga didn't even come close), built in printer and modem ports, hard drive compatibility right out of the box, , MIDI interface (handy for low-end networking as well as music), cartridge port if you needed it, high capacity (for the time) floppy disc storage as default, RGB monitors, built in mouse driven GUI OS... and a full editor's' keyboard. Between that and the Amiga... even without considering the others, I mean... hell, without even going into the sheer class exhibited by the Miggy game library which stomps all over pretty much any 8-bit console and puts up a good fight against the 16-bits..... Just load up the ST version of Xenon,, Star Wars or Buggy Boy (the first three games me & my brother saw running on it, and sealed the deal for our parents making the decision over whether to buy) and tell me, after seeing that, and essentially getting it thrown in alongside a "proper" home computer that could smoke the IBIMs and Apples at their own game for a fraction of their purchase price, why the hell you'd want to bother with also buying an NES or even Master System? It's not like we were short of decent software, either. There was a huge library, including ports of things that in other markets would have been Nintendo or even Sega exclusives (and often as not the Sega ones would be Megadrive / pre-MD arcade class, rather than MS), and as they came on disc they were usually a bit cheaper than the cocnsole carts (not to mention the Platinum budget re-releases - when did you ever see that happen with ROMcart titles? ..... and the rampant piracy of course...). We didn't really feel like we were missing out, ever, because there was more than enough top-class choices available - and, moreover, a lot of which never got anywhere near a console of any kind. You might have got sorrt of close to the same experience in the US with a Tandy 1000, but even those were still more expensive, had worse graphics (other than maybe that trick 640x200 16-colour mode, but I daresay the Amiga would still have outperformed it whilst running something similar), stuck with 360k 5.25" disks for a stupidly long time, had that hopeless XT keyboard layout, onboard sound only to SMS / maybe ST level (but generally less able to make as good use of it due to a much looser coupling between the AV hardware/main CPU, chipset and RAM), and most particularly the same awful, rotten, slow, inefficient processors. Even Tandy's decision to swap to a higher MHz V20 instead of the default 8088 could only do so much - any 68k equipped machine crapped all over the XT-class IBM (quasi-)compatibles from somewhere in the stratosphere. You'd probably still have ended up getting an NES anyway because even that could outcompute (yes, with a 6502-compatible at a smidge under 2MHz) and offer better graphics than a typical PC-compatible...

[@RSans4210]

@@gwenynorisu6883 we don't want all those options, we want plug and play

[@greenkoopa]

Jag-wahr.

[@CaptainCaveman1170]

JAGWIRE!!! Why do so many people (Americans?) say it that way!!!???!!! lol

[@haukahauke2160]

hehhe this console looks like a printer😅

[@DieguitoGamer4341]

Ah

[@louis1443]

Great video

[@ryanefoley82]

The commentator sounds like he needs to blow his nose...

[@TopHatGamingManChannel]

I think I did! I had man flu when I produced this video. But still need that sweet YT money.

[@ridesq]

Why is every game/console commercial from the 80s-90s so cringy?

[@googlesucks3713]

Yo serious question Do you hold your nose shut when you talk? Sounds like you got a stuffy nose

[@TopHatGamingManChannel]

Nope, I do just have a really stuffy nose. I have a heavy cold and with KZbin being my sole income. I cannot call in sick,

[@googlesucks3713]

Top Hat Gaming Man Damn, that sucks. Hope you feel better, man. Love your content

[@Gsedoy1]

+

[@tenbob1972]

like all Atari system it would live and die by the third party support .

[@Skaera75b]

Dude, I love your videos, but could you PLEASE stop chuckling smugly as you speak? It's not attractive, and it really spoils your videos for me. If you want to laugh, tell a joke and then chuckle, but enjoying your own sense of humour whilst trying to inform us about the subject isn't entertaining, it's really grating. Other than that, I really like what you're doing. But please try not to sound so pleased with yourself? It is hard to listen to sometimes. X/O

[@TopHatGamingManChannel]

But my channel constantly has great growth hehehehehehe.

[@juiceala]

THGM after finally giving the Atari Lynx a try I find it's liberary of games to be very poor especially compared to the Game Gear, why in the world are you complaining about the Game Gear yet praising the Lynx instead? Are you insane? This comes off as somewhat hypocritical to me.

[@TopHatGamingManChannel]

Alot of the Gamegear library is just old Mastersystem ports, you can have a better experience with the same games on the MS. Also the Lynx is older than the Gamegear and twice as powerful. It was a much more ambitious project.

[@juiceala]

It's more powerful I'll give you that, more ambitious, maybe, but it ended up with a poor library of games that's only slightly more than the Virtualboy, the Game Gear also had tons of exclusive titles that weren't ports of old SMS titles. I can see why you complain about playing it on real hardware due to the screen and battery life but the same can be said about the Lynx, the fact your Lynx was modified to make the screen better doesn't change the fact the console still had a bad screen, I'm sorry but I'm going to disagree with you on this one, I find the Lynx to be an interesting experiment but it's not a decent console, much like the Atari Jaguar it failed due to poor library of games.

[@johnwilliams8026]

Are you insane? The Lynx pisses all over the Game gear in both technical ability and the quality of its games.

[@juiceala]

John Williams the Game Gear has objectively better games, it might not be on bar in a technical level but so was the Gameboy yet it still had better games despite not even having colors, just because its technical cababilities are better doesn't make it a better console, the Atari Jaguar was more powerful than the Genesis and SNES and nobody gives a shit about it because its liberary of games suck, give me Star Fox over Cybermorph any day.

[@johnwilliams8026]

Nah, the GG just has loads of SMS ports, nothing worth buying the machine for

[@OldManNutcakez]

Atari sucks as a company and has sucked for most of its existence. Panther would have flopped just like every other project they put their hand on after the initial success.