Atari (YM2149) music: Scavenger compilation (Dolby Headphone)

[@beastworld8109]

WTF WHY THIS GO SO HARD THO?? THAT 2ND TRACK ON GOD

[@PCFixer]

Oh, man, I used to HAVE an Atari ST back in the Day -- what great nostalgia. Grumpy parents yelling at kids to "turn down those silly bleeps and bloops!" instead of going to their kids room and hearing THIS blasting out and going, "Okay, what is this, it sounds great!"

[@AtariCrypt]

Pure Atari ST goodness, I love Scavenger so much.

[@GrantGarner]

Is it weird that I want to have his babies?

[@AtariCrypt]

BeST reply ever! LOL

[@triton4541]

Bonsoir, Je vous like tous les 2, mais je ne comprends pas car je suis Français.

[@youdj_app]

The best of the best of atari music, I listened it 200 times 😄

[@vapourmile]

I'd never known an ST can produce music like this until today.

[@Ama-hi5kn]

The YM2149 is a kind of special version of the AY-3-8910. Found in the Amstrad CPC and Spectrum 128 and several other computers.

[@ashleywhiteman2684]

​@@Ama-hi5knit's not that special the St has some cpu headroom for additional fx to be processed. It's a pretty rudimentary chip otherwise.

[@Ama-hi5kn]

@@ashleywhiteman2684 The YM2149 is a version of the AY-3-8910. But the sound it produces is not exactly the same. The YM2203 is another version which includes FM sound.

[@przemekkobel4874]

@@ashleywhiteman2684 Except when replace YM with the AY in ST, all higher quality samples won't work.

[@sheepthehack]

I am LITERALLY back in my bedroom circa 1990... listening to ATARI ST MENU DISK CRACKTROS!!!! Man.. They influenced my life so massively.. not just as a kid.. but shaped my later career as a reverse engineer!!! always curious about whats under the hood!!! :) thanks man.. great tunes!

[@s_t_s4846]

My all time favourite ST musician with his fellows Tao/Cream and Jess/OVR. What a masterpiece, I'll never grow tired of listening to it! Need mooooore!

[@Adam_Lyskawa]

YM2149 sounding better than SID is really a thing! Amazing audio quality and stereo mix.

[@terhazza]

I really first thought this was a SID track...'man, this is very clean sounding SID tune'

[@laurentd9980]

Awesome pieces of soundchip music!!! The talent of the composers is just incredible, it's pure magic to be able to get such sounds out of the PSG!! I don't think the designers of the GI/YM chips ever dreamed of such possibilities !!!

[@youdj_app]

Man, you can litterally feel the "bits" in that music, the best ST music I have heard (and I heard many!), in love :D

[@OzMaHmkar]

Really awesome shit, just the way it's supposed to be. Thank you, Sir, for uploading this.

[@kebman]

Holy great balls of fire some of the purest, greatest chipsound I've heard on this website.

[@umitanonymous3400]

One of the greatest chiptunes

[@sebastienmichalaki1542]

Very good song Joris!!!!! great : Mad Max, Tao, Jess, Count 0, Havoc, Lap, An Cool, Lotus, Doclands and Big Alec...

[@TheBorrelnoten]

You know your scne:)

[@Optimus6128]

I don't know why AtariST music makes me cry, more than Amiga music. Or maybe I love the Scavenger tunes, they are so wholesome.

[@Ama-hi5kn]

Being an Amiga user myself, I have to admit... I dig these tunes. :)

[@rogerwennstrom6677]

Awesome! That intro of "Leif Rullar" through Dolby headphones is one of the few times where something really lived up the rose tinted nostalgic vision of it I had buried somewhere deep in my memory... Ah, good old times.

[@markpenrice6253]

What's this "dolby headphone" nonsense anyway? Is this supposed to be Prologic surround sound or something?

[@rogerwennstrom6677]

Short answer: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolby_Headphone Kuokka remixes the original tracks using dolby headphone, with some stereo channel separation, to give them a more "speaker-like" feeling when listening through headphones. I think he's done a good explanation of this in some of his videos. Can't remember which one though.

[@Kuokka77]

A software DSP plugin that creates virtual 5.1 output for any headphones. I mostly use it to make Amiga audio more tolerable with headphones kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqOamYOZoa1kmdkm01s But it worked ok with Scavenger's tracks too.

[@umitanonymous3400]

​@@Kuokka77Well Done, exceptional channel, totally a divine work out of this world.Appreciate it fully.😊

[@paulspark7287]

I've just ordered a couple of these chips to have a go at wiring one up. Sounds really cool and definitely cheaper and easier to find than a SID :-)

[@Kusivittu666]

Voi helvetin perse miten hyvä tämä on. Etenkin Knuckle Joe -osuus. Repeattia vain piisaa. Kiitokset Kuokka!

[@sebastiendame5172]

great, very good melody and sounds used..... come back when i was looking demo in my bedroom on my ST in the middle of the night. thanks

[@GarielBee]

This is a gem

[@mrgaiswinkler]

great sound! love it

[@johnacove]

Something else! 10/10! 👌

[@Splatpope]

to know that this dude made the soundtrack for Horizon, geez man

[@Kuokka77]

Holy balls. I didn't realize that. Awesome game. Just started The Frozen Wilds. Video description updated with his correct first name.

[@markpenrice6253]

14:05 onwards - oh yeah, that's the shit right there. Back to the 90s in fine style. Modern progressive genre-smashing chiptune is all well and good, but sometimes, you gotta get back to the original ST style synthchip music.

[@MrFoxafonk]

pure genius

[@Trompunitalphapropan]

First song is a banger!

[@JornLavoll]

So good!

[@carstenkoeckritz8071]

Nothing can beat Scavenger's music!

[@markpenrice6253]

Sounds pretty good, btw. As accurate as most other emulations (it's not hard to make a *theoretically* perfect YM-emulation, as it's an entirely predictable state machine), the only inaccuracy is that it's stereo rather than all the channels being mixed down to mono (sounds pretty good in the 'phones, though, despite preventing use of some of the more clever-dick channel combining effects eg for samples), and there isn't the inherent background noise and somewhat over-the-top bandpass filtering experienced in a real system thanks to internal circuit noise in the ST and YM themselves, and the sound being routed through the video port (and cable) to a monitor with poorly amplified output to a single low-quality speaker itself subject to quite a bit of 50/60hz and 15.6/15.7khz resonance from the CRT scan circuitry. To be honest, I rather prefer the unnaturally clean version. It was always disappointing trying to get recordings of ST music on tape, either using a mic or plugging directly into the monitor's headphone socket, because of all of the above affecting the quality and needing the volume turned up so high it started clipping.

[@Kuokka77]

This post was so long that KZbin decided to flag it as potential spam. Sorry it took this long to approve it (i don't check that place on KZbin's channel settings often enough).

[@noop9k]

@psdominator I almost gave up on commenting under BS posts about politics & history, posts get insta-deleted due to keywords or some other factors, while obvious propaganda trolls run free. I once had a popular post with 3-digit number of likes but wasn’t able to respond to propagandist’s comments to it, *everything* got deleted after I outed one of them as an obvious troll.

[@noop9k]

And anyway, back to topic. Dunno about Atari, I listened on an old-ish TV(I still keep our old TV from ~1990) with TDA2003 amp inside, but with high quality cable without any discernible noise, so I don’t think noise should be considered normal. Speccy scene uses several different stereo layouts and most tunes assume stereo output, nobody cares about mono anymore. And there are countless arguments about AY and YM audible differences.

[@Ama-hi5kn]

I have been in some many discussions about YM2149 vs AY-3-8910. Some people keep telling me they are the same, but they are really not. There are differences. But what do know. I mostly know of SID 6581 and Paula 8364.

[@matthew81uk]

Sounds good!

[@FoxMulder78]

I love how Micro ST kinda censored the bad word at 14:04 :P

[@markpenrice6253]

as in it'd be louder if replayed in mono, you mean, given that it came through quietly on both channels? :D

[@FoxMulder78]

I mean it cuts out; "MOTHERFUC---!" Playing the original file on another player you can hear the full word :P

[@handlesareanunfortunatefeature]

Are you sure that second track isn't from a SID? Because it sure sounds similar... regardless, still a great complilation!

[@Ich_liebe_brezeln]

YM2149 and AY-8910: really impressive sound chips TI SN76489: Am I a joke to you?

[@mark12358]

Similar in specs (3voices+1noise, 8octaves) to SID sound in some way, although it's a "off the shelf" Yamaha low cost chip.

[@cy-kl5hg]

It may be similar but it's far from SID. Nevertheless some impressive tunes can be made on it.

[@sviru007]

this is absolutely awesome. this is from 1040ste? or can you play it also on 520stfm?

[@Ama-hi5kn]

It plays the same on any ST computer. It just uses the same YM2149 sound chip.

[@Yeowtch]

🤠

[@georgor1980]

He was also the composer of the magnificient sundtrack of crapman! Do I remember well?

[@TheBorrelnoten]

Yes.

[@TonHet1]

O CPU desse computador influencia o som dessa máquina? é mto diferente o AY-3-8910 desse computador pra um ZX Spectrum.

[@douglasalves4892]

♥♥♥

[@rolandsahlander2239]

@Kuokka77 Would it be possible for you to do a SID-version of the last song? Love this upload btw!

[@Kuokka77]

The SID emulated Scavenger tracks that i uploaded recently were only possible due to them being part of the orbtraxx 3 music disk. The last track of this upload was not featured in it.

[@Miesiu]

How did you record stereo from YM ?

[@Kuokka77]

You should read the video description. In short, emulated audio and the software allows stereo effect

[@Miesiu]

THX! Forgive my blindness ...

[@Mr.Atari2600]

So, YM2149 is kinda like a mixture between AY & SID?

[@Miesiu]

YM2149 is the same as AY - the only other catalogue number.

[@gibs75]

The SID like effects are made with cool programming tricks involving the CPU to tweak parameters on the soundchip at high frequency.

[@markpenrice6253]

YM2149 = a Yamaha branded (and fully licensed) copy of the General Instrument AY-8910, with a couple of very minor changes (I think something to do with how it treats the clock divider pin and the fine detail of how the envelope works?) but otherwise pretty much a direct photocopy of the original circuit mask sheets. For the most part, any code for the AY will work identically on the YM and vice versa. All the awesome effects you hear are 100% clever programming and abuse of e.g. the envelope function, the ST's own system timer, etc.

[@alexsinclair2012]

Ahh.. The clock divider input, Which is perfect if your machine runs at the NTSC colorburst frequency, Which many machines of the era did for the sake of component count. Thus, Reducing the overall cost.

[@sheepthehack]

I think the AMIGA lacked CLASS... It was too powerful... so never really pushed people to get every last drop from the chips... To this day u can recognise an atari st chip tune... amiga tunes could have been from anywhere!!!

[@Heaven6502]

great stuff!!! YM my ass!

[@packardjosy3881]

who needs 4 channels ? YM power !

[@Miesiu]

User's Atari XL/XE !

[@markpenrice6253]

The SFX noise doesn't seem very troubling to me, does it really need a particular warning?

[@Kuokka77]

When you listen loud, it can be quite startling :)

[@transilvanischervampir666]

Nice Sound 🥸