ATC RECORDING Air India 101 incident at New York JFK Airport ILS Failure

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Varun Solanki

Varun Solanki

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Air India 101 operated by a Boeing 777-300ER had a multiple navigation instrument failure while on finals at New York's JFK Airport.
Kudos to the crew, ATC and ground staff for working efficiently as a team.
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@AMStationEngineer
@AMStationEngineer 6 жыл бұрын
The quality of this presentation "forced" me to subscribe. The flight crew, and ATC, produced an almost 'divine' cooperation between each other. The apparent 'knowledge of aircraft's systems, navigation, and landing procedures - which needed to be utilized I was an industrial engineer for Boeing, charged with avionics support, during the design, implementation, roll-out, and post delivery (first 100 deliveries) phases of the 777; for these reasons, I know the 777's avionics systems fairly well. With that said, today, and through this video, I've gotten my 'long awaited' confirmation, that the build process, and operational manuals, spelled-out procedures which were 'easily understood', and allowed the flight crew to execute/apply, and transform those written procedures into the physical operation of the aircraft. FOR MYSELF, AND OTHERS, WE'VE RECEIVED THE "SPIRITUAL" PAYOUT - SOME TWENTY FIVE YEARS POST INCEPTION.
@joedilalla3940
@joedilalla3940 5 жыл бұрын
I thoroughly enjoyed listening to that tape. I was a Center controller for 23 years, retired for over ten years. Listening to the professionalism between the pilot and ATC brought me back to control room in my mind and reminds me of what a great career I had the pleasure to be a part of.
@ayaan9646
@ayaan9646 5 жыл бұрын
Joe DiLalla i’m glad you’re happy with your career path
@slartybarfastb3648
@slartybarfastb3648 4 жыл бұрын
Do you think an emergency should have been declared? It seems a good deal of fuel could have been saved. A PAN call may have made the controller fully aware of the gravity of the situation sooner. This started to remind me of the Avianca crash. I'm not concerned about the dollar of fuel saved, but fuel saving in terms of remaining options
@joedilalla3940
@joedilalla3940 4 жыл бұрын
@@slartybarfastb3648 Hi, As far as I can tell from the audio, they had about 15000 Lbs of fuel left. I'm not a pilot so I cannot translate how fuel critical he was. The weather was improving fairly quickly at his first alternate, EWR. The controller gave the pilot all his options. In this case, if the pilot didn't declare a minimum fuel emergency, the controller wouldn't either. I hope that helps answer your question.
@gamingwitharhan8365
@gamingwitharhan8365 4 жыл бұрын
How much can atc earn in starting6 years
@woodpeckerart8081
@woodpeckerart8081 4 жыл бұрын
ATC- "What equipment have failed ?" AI101- "everything" ATC-" What equipment are working?" AI101- "Only pilot"
@basusri1120
@basusri1120 11 ай бұрын
And yet Air India 101 did not declare an emergency? Why not?
@Taurineg
@Taurineg 5 жыл бұрын
ATC: Which instrument has failed? AIC 101: *Everything*
@ninadachrekar7215
@ninadachrekar7215 5 жыл бұрын
ATC: Which instrument has failed? AIC 101: YES
@JMRsDesk
@JMRsDesk 5 жыл бұрын
Toilet just went out so now finally we must declare an emergency landing.
@Somd55
@Somd55 5 жыл бұрын
It’s evident u didn’t understand the gravity of the problem. Most important things in radio communication is the number and confirmation. Else everything is trivial
@Taurineg
@Taurineg 5 жыл бұрын
@@Somd55 fuck off
@ronsta11
@ronsta11 6 жыл бұрын
Air India has such a terrible reputation in its home country. But these pilots! Wow!!!! Absolutely salute their professionalism and staying calm flying an aircraft that has lost most of the instrumentation they need for landing and low fuel on the ground! Amazing job
@Elladdane
@Elladdane 6 жыл бұрын
Air india has a terrible reputation when it comes to the service and luxury that some one expects from an international airliner apart from that they have the best of commercial pilots .All the nation complains is the amenities they provide and those ugly sick ass air hostes
@mokadir1
@mokadir1 6 жыл бұрын
ronnie_g how can this people fly plane so many defects
@JohnDoe-ks6is
@JohnDoe-ks6is 6 жыл бұрын
Given the choice between great service and terrible pilots or terrible service but great pilots I'd choose the airline with great pilots. I want to arrive safely.
@uk7153
@uk7153 6 жыл бұрын
mo kadir ILS is used in most airports for landing which is an automated landing system which relies on multiple instruments to keep it on course. Since they had those specific guidance instruments fail, they had to do an alternate VNAV approach (which all pilots are trained well for) but the only issue with that was, there was a low ceiling of cloud cover, so they could not do a long approach in such a low ceiling as it requires visual confirmation of airway on approach, otherwise landing has to be aborted and a go around is done as per procedure.
@ronsta11
@ronsta11 6 жыл бұрын
Hey it is not about Air India flying like one of the state transport buses. These things happen to almost every airline. And generally pilots are trained for such emergencies. My point here is despite the negativity at their workplace, zero goodwill and acceptance of the company these pilots work for, they display exceptional skill by remaining calm when almost all of the systems they need to rely on for a safe landing packed up. As far as I know, all airplanes are maintained to a certain level, especially the critical instruments inside the cockpit. Saving Air India is something I still wonder how they would plan it in the midst of bureaucracy, political influence and everything under the sun you could think of that could stop something happening in India. It is better they shut down the company and sell it crap for scrap
@bijunair2573
@bijunair2573 6 жыл бұрын
These pilots and ATCs are amongst the best, we can be proud. No ILS, low fuel. RESPECT!
@myname-in8sh
@myname-in8sh 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe its just me but i picked up a distinct change in tone in the pilot's voice when asked about the number of people onboard. Calm as he was, in that moment, the possibility of the plane being potentially in mortal peril seemed to cross his mind. And the next instant he was back to being chill and pro. Love the human spirit on display here against the backdrop of planes and aviation 👍
@sarangsharma5346
@sarangsharma5346 5 жыл бұрын
Where exactly was this at in minutes and seconds thanks
@RahulGupta-ni5nz
@RahulGupta-ni5nz 4 жыл бұрын
I believe that was co-pilot's voice.
@vishsri
@vishsri 6 жыл бұрын
Very commendable - no sign of stress on any side..just very professional handling and methodical evaluation of alternatives. Surely could become a case study
@rafidin99
@rafidin99 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed, 100%. In addition, there should be another case study on those who disliked this video 😂😂😂
@tomking1890
@tomking1890 6 жыл бұрын
Airplane sounds dangerous, nothing works...
@tathagatabhattacharya5911
@tathagatabhattacharya5911 6 жыл бұрын
The shaking will come after the landing..
@SshivamKhopkar
@SshivamKhopkar 5 жыл бұрын
@@tomking1890 all US made Boeing aircraft are dangerous!
@steveshepherd4879
@steveshepherd4879 5 жыл бұрын
The pilots were overly dependent on the automated landing system. Controller was suggesting options that required hand flying but they would not accept them.@@rafidin99
@activethoughts5351
@activethoughts5351 6 жыл бұрын
Air India's bad reputation is not because of pilots, but due to management failures. Hats off to the pilots who remained calm under a difficult situation and saved precious lives by their professional skills.
@davekam8974
@davekam8974 5 жыл бұрын
Fuck Air India, must Dalit cast of Air carriers, beware! Pollution!
@FNLNFNLN
@FNLNFNLN Жыл бұрын
99% of the time, if a business is shit, it's because of bad management.
@mohammedsalimmc7542
@mohammedsalimmc7542 6 жыл бұрын
Under so much stress, the pilot and the Atc were so dignified... So proud of the crew... Well done guys!
@menonrag
@menonrag 6 жыл бұрын
Well said!
@Srivatssan
@Srivatssan 5 жыл бұрын
This should be broadcasted in India. Air India doesnt have a good reputation in India, but these pilots, man , every bit of professionalism that is required for passenger safety is being demonstrated. The knowledge, the communication, the composure from the tower and the pilot is outstanding. Hats off to these unsung heroes who have probably saved everyone on onboard and no one would have even known.
@shankysays
@shankysays 5 жыл бұрын
ATC -"What equipment have failed?" AI101 - "YES"
@upranjal
@upranjal 6 жыл бұрын
Hats off to all the guys involved... why don’t the whole world act so normal to all situations like this... imagine a life like this.
@Max50ww
@Max50ww 6 жыл бұрын
Isn't that the truth! Seems like these days any kind of problem devolves into a turd flinging contest.
@Pune122
@Pune122 6 жыл бұрын
it should be "Hats off" not "hates off"
@upranjal
@upranjal 6 жыл бұрын
Arun Sahasrabuddhe thanks!
@trimel81
@trimel81 6 жыл бұрын
"all situations"? a stranger stabs your wife in front of you.....your reaction? NOT as calm as these pilots....LOL
@Aquavidify
@Aquavidify 6 жыл бұрын
@@trimel81 maybe not in all cases
@stacygrn
@stacygrn 6 жыл бұрын
(inaudible) @06:40 = "...any idea of the trend?" (inaudible) @07:08 = "...lets see if we can get you a little higher so you can burn less fuel..." (inaudible) @07:36 = "...also winds aloft at Bradley..." (inaudible) @09:10 = "...we've got a trend showing..." (inaudible) @09:23 = "...it could really take us down in a situation..." (inaudible) @10:14 = "...I just have the Newark person here (on the phone) now so...
@VarunSolanki
@VarunSolanki 6 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks a lot bro! I really appreciate it❤️
@bkr68rc
@bkr68rc 6 жыл бұрын
Stacy Green thanks
@arv799
@arv799 6 жыл бұрын
Not winds aloft at Bradley. It's Windsor Locks/Bradley. That's the name of the airport.
@AureliusR
@AureliusR 6 жыл бұрын
Inaudible@ 1:55 "...I missed the runway 4R" @ 2:55 "there were a lot of issues involved so we trying to sort that out..." @ 2:59 "do you need time to work *everything* out" (not this heading)
@arunkumarSodankoor
@arunkumarSodankoor 6 жыл бұрын
From ATC or pilot sir
@Clearsky1945
@Clearsky1945 5 жыл бұрын
The pilots of Air India understood the art of communication very well and thus avoided a disaster. This shows that the English Language Proficiency Test is a must for pilots. Not only do you need to have a good command of your RT, but you also need to be able to have a conversation in order to solve problems. Congrats for Air India!
@flappypaddles_
@flappypaddles_ 6 жыл бұрын
Anyone who could stay calm in such a potentially catastrophic situation such as this deserves a medal. Well done too all involved for diverting a tragedy.
@markf2720
@markf2720 6 жыл бұрын
...and then the passenger yelled at the pilot,'why did you land at the wrong airport?' My neice just wasted $75 on parking
@brunoleempoels1591
@brunoleempoels1591 5 жыл бұрын
ROFL
@RellyOhBoy
@RellyOhBoy 5 жыл бұрын
100% situational awareness. Props to the flight crew and the controller.
@JayMcGowan
@JayMcGowan 6 жыл бұрын
Very professional by all involved. Well done.
@umeshp.2454
@umeshp.2454 6 жыл бұрын
Great one team effort.
@plasterdbastard
@plasterdbastard 5 жыл бұрын
Remember this when you fly. Your pilots are professionals who need to make decisions with your souls in their hands. You may be inconvenienced, but you're alive.
@Maloy7800
@Maloy7800 6 жыл бұрын
HOLY CRAP!!! Low ceilings all around, no ILS, no autoland, two altimeters are down, AND you only have fuel for one hour. Other than that, how was the play, Mrs.Lincoln? :-)))
@Tomrryaniv
@Tomrryaniv 6 жыл бұрын
Maloy7800 Two radio altimeters are down, not their normal altimeters. They could still do a CAT I approach with normal minimums or RNAV approaches.
@curiosity8717
@curiosity8717 6 жыл бұрын
Thats Indian pilots for u.....!!
@steveshepherd4879
@steveshepherd4879 5 жыл бұрын
Apparently the only problem was that they could not use Autoland. That's indicative of the emerging trend of big iron pilots not being able to hand fly an approach.@@Tomrryaniv
@pritamlaskar7265
@pritamlaskar7265 5 жыл бұрын
@@curiosity8717 Please don't show your over patriotism out here. It's nothing patriotic going on. It's about a thin line between life and death. Please respect the men involved in the incident and let go of your over patriotism.
@davidswelt
@davidswelt 5 жыл бұрын
Plenty of misinformation there. Autoland is not the same as flying a coupled approach (autopilot flying the, e.g., ILS). It's possible that their standard operating procedure mandates autoland or certain features for certain weather, but what they allude to is that they either lost the glideslope, at which point they would have reverted to a localizer-only approach (higher minimums), or, if you take literally what they said, they actually lost the localizer, which would indeed cause any correctly trained pilot to go missed. They're very clear that they could not fly an ILS approach (even CAT I). They ended up flying an approach to Newark with non-WAAS (not quite so precise) GPS (or generally, RNAV) equipment where they'd get nothing but an advisory glideslope and higher minimums, which is why they needed better weather. If this sounds complicated then that's because it is, and that's why training to fly in the instrument flight rules "system" (and becoming an ATP, let alone get a job to fly big iron across the ocean) takes much time, experience, and talent. These guys were very far from "not being able to hand-fly an approach", and they probably have been dealing safely with older navaids across India for years.
@alexmollen9339
@alexmollen9339 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing how cool and composed the pilots remained. Hats off! BTW the controllers were amazing too, it's just that they're not the ones in a tin can that is running out of fuel rapidly.
@pinyinfan572
@pinyinfan572 6 жыл бұрын
This is how the best training helps... Kudos to the Pilots and the ATC for keeping the situation under control in such high stress scenario.
@IndianTiger-0P
@IndianTiger-0P 6 жыл бұрын
Air India has mostly Air Force retired Pilots and mechanics. All are highly professional in technical aspects. I'm an A&P Mechanic working with AI
@Abinash91
@Abinash91 6 жыл бұрын
The pilots and the ATC remained quite composed and professional at this time of crisis, who I think should be given with enough credits.
@wwutama
@wwutama 5 жыл бұрын
Extreme professionalism displayed by ATC and the Air India Pilots. The pilots were trying with what that was available to them and ATC was trying to help the pilots out in everyway he could. Well done to both ATC and pilots - Crew Resource Management - CRM (both ATC and Pilots) at its finest.
@_apey
@_apey 6 жыл бұрын
After doing some calculations, 7,200 kg of fuel translates to approximately 1hr of fuel for a Boeing 777. Thank goodness for the regulation that all flights carry enough fuel to make it not only to the destination, but also to the alternate airport and then some. Thank you for taking the time to put this audio together.
@sidewinder-tex
@sidewinder-tex 6 жыл бұрын
I recognize the last ATC voice as that of Kennedy Steve. He's a top notch professional and the Air India crew worked the problem, came up with a solution and executed. This is how it is done.
@suvrodip
@suvrodip 6 жыл бұрын
Great job by the pilots and the tower crew.u just saved so many lives ..hats off
@umeshp.2454
@umeshp.2454 6 жыл бұрын
Great one team efforts
@jckphotograph
@jckphotograph 5 жыл бұрын
It's a great lesson for all pilots: ATC will always be doing their best to help when you need it most, but they cannot be expected to analyze the situation as the pilots can, being each and every aircraft has different systems, backup systems and capabilities. The take-away here is to tell ATC 1). What the problem is you are facing - the general nature of the emergency. 2)What you need to ensure the safety of the aircraft - ie. An RNAV/GPS approach. and 3) Your intentions. Thanks so much for posting this, and kudos to all involved in resolving the problems safely. It's not easy with 370 souls strapped to your back, at 300mph, in a 650,000lb aircraft that turns into a glider in the next 20min.
@jaguar3248
@jaguar3248 6 жыл бұрын
Kudos to all involved. The crew for staying calm and the controller keeping it that way.
@5190975
@5190975 6 жыл бұрын
Hats off for the Captain and First Officer for their professionalism. All the controllers did a great job. It's a difficult situation without NAV aids and the adverse weather. Above all the remaining fuel.
@limitless0073
@limitless0073 6 жыл бұрын
I would request both American and Indian govt to give this pilot some bravery award. He is an angel for sure... People piss in their lives for small things and he is calm like ocean without any turbulence.
@debjyotidutta6287
@debjyotidutta6287 6 жыл бұрын
Losers these things happen morf often than u think its 10 out of 1000 landings n midair issues ALL PILOTS GET TRAINED LIKE THESE
@markdoldon8852
@markdoldon8852 5 жыл бұрын
Bravery award ? For doing the basics of his job? For helping the plane he is sitting in the front of to land? A competance award from his pilots union or the company, sure. But it is not 'bravery' to save yourself. Sorry, not to denigrate his skills, but shouting hero at every pilot who lands a plane in an emergency is a pet peeve. Firemen who enter burning buildings are heroes, soldiers or police who sacrifice their own safety to protect others are heroes. Not pilots doing their job in a stressful situation.
@IlIlIlIlIlIlIlIl-v9h
@IlIlIlIlIlIlIlIl-v9h 6 жыл бұрын
The only reason this had such a successful outcome was the quality of English used by the Air India crew and the level of communication used by both ATC and aircrew... otherwise this would’ve been a Avianca type crash all over again
@menonrag
@menonrag 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely.
@menonrag
@menonrag 6 жыл бұрын
The results for the previous AI 101 that crashed into Mt Blanc in the 60s due to miscommunications with a Geneva control tower that insisted on speaking in French were quite the opposite.
@kmohan24
@kmohan24 6 жыл бұрын
It tickles me, when foreigners doubt the English speaking capabilities of Indians. Yes, the accent could be there but we are second to none.
@lindabao9635
@lindabao9635 6 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more! Brilliant work from all involved of what could have otherwise been a tragic outcome!
@lindabao9635
@lindabao9635 6 жыл бұрын
Krish Mohan I understand your feelings. But we just have to take that as a compliment!
@matthewhoverd471
@matthewhoverd471 5 жыл бұрын
at 13:11 atc asks "is there anything else you need from me?" Given how many systems that weren't working I'll bet he really had to bit his tongue not to say "Like a new plane maybe?
@VibhorWase
@VibhorWase 5 жыл бұрын
Would've lightened the situation seriously 😂
@sandeepvivek81
@sandeepvivek81 6 жыл бұрын
Having multiple instrument failures.. there was no panic in captain voice. He was talking so calmly and normally. I wonder what kind of training they go through. Otherwise normal person would have give up. Well done from both sides air and ground.
@dontjudgemebymyname.4282
@dontjudgemebymyname.4282 6 жыл бұрын
Might be meditation.
@suneetathakur4426
@suneetathakur4426 6 жыл бұрын
Air India Pilots go through 3 step Psychology Test before getting it to fly an international flight. Rest you may assume
@pa60pilot
@pa60pilot 6 жыл бұрын
Routine non-event for professional pilots.
@slats.flapssim
@slats.flapssim 6 жыл бұрын
It's called crew resource management and fordec= facts, options, risks/benefits, decision, execution, check. Google it that's very interesting to deal with problems.
@algel5035
@algel5035 6 жыл бұрын
The crew did not indicate any issue with the propulsion system so really no reason for them to panic. Low fuel was definitely a concern but the plane never left controlled flight.
@waynejennings7046
@waynejennings7046 6 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic. This is where a pilots training is really put to the test. I love this. Multiple instrument failure. Low fuel. Communication under pressure, knowledge of your equipment requirements for alternates. Pilots those digital devices can go kaput at any time. Be ready.
@sbscottw
@sbscottw 5 жыл бұрын
Great co-operation from crew and ATC, nice to see things work out well
@bernardanderson7569
@bernardanderson7569 6 жыл бұрын
Air Indias crew did a fabulous job flying the aircraft and with direct communication with ATC
@465marko
@465marko 5 жыл бұрын
YOU did a fabulous job flying the aircraft and with direct communication with ATC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@patrickshenton769
@patrickshenton769 5 жыл бұрын
Direct communication as opposed to what? Indirect communication?
@465marko
@465marko 5 жыл бұрын
@@patrickshenton769 Yeah. Most pilots would have just hinted at the problem, all passive-aggressive "Well if you can't figure out what's wrong, I'm not going to tell you". Or just sighed wistfully over the radio, clicking their tongues and shaking their heads. But not Air India, they communicated directly about what was wrong.
@noelanish
@noelanish 6 жыл бұрын
Service wise Air India is poor. But their pilots are some of the best in the world. Thanks to their rigorous training in Mumbai and Hyderabad.
@sundartn3670
@sundartn3670 6 жыл бұрын
Absolute calmness all around when all hell could have broken loose.
@rahuldevgun8703
@rahuldevgun8703 6 жыл бұрын
Kick Ass Proud of you Captain Rustom and Sushant of Air India. Super job by ITC. Its time Airlines need to share status of all the equipment which impacts safety to the passengers before teh flight
@prabhatbose3021
@prabhatbose3021 6 жыл бұрын
ATC
@lindabao9635
@lindabao9635 6 жыл бұрын
rahul devgun when the plane left Delhi, the instruments would not have shown any symptoms of malfunction..
@Jojoboogie
@Jojoboogie 5 жыл бұрын
If the instrument failures were apparent before departure that plane should never been allowed to leave. But most likely the problems occur en route or maybe during approach.
@markdoldon8852
@markdoldon8852 5 жыл бұрын
What? They didnt take off without those systems, so who is supposed to share?
@lollmaowow2968
@lollmaowow2968 3 жыл бұрын
The accent understanding of both these ATC and the pilot is great! Kudos on handling different accents to both the people, ATC and AI101
@rameshtp
@rameshtp 6 жыл бұрын
I have traveled my maiden international flight from Chennai - Singapore. I never had such a warm experience on any other airline. Smooth Ride, Excellent Food & Drinks. Local AIR-INDIA pilots are awesome. Look @ how cool her interacts with ATC in such dire situations. Some of them are Airforce short service return. No wonder they are so cool.
@chumar47
@chumar47 6 жыл бұрын
Although the pilots were calm and thankfully all went well in the end i felt there was a communication gap as JFK Dep was not understanding and pilots had to explain him the issues many times imo not a good response by tower
@briancaldwell7305
@briancaldwell7305 5 жыл бұрын
I agree. The AI pilot was very clear so I don't understand the ATC repititions. Perhaps he was handling other radio communications. Maybe we need dedicated ATCs for sucy emergencies?
@mikewood1566
@mikewood1566 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@yvesjodogne1956
@yvesjodogne1956 5 жыл бұрын
@@briancaldwell7305 In an emergency it is critical to ensure all communications are perfectly understood. Better a repetition of comm than a crash. Also, some comm from the flight lacked assurance and authority.
@toddvandagrifft84
@toddvandagrifft84 5 жыл бұрын
It's a lot easier to understand when a text of what is being said is displayed. What you don't here is the other lines ringing and other controllers on the shout line while atc is trying to figure out what is going on.
@billy5821
@billy5821 5 жыл бұрын
@@briancaldwell7305 I agree also,
@udaykumarpushpala181
@udaykumarpushpala181 6 жыл бұрын
A Great Team Work, I Sincerely appreciate A I 101 Cockpit Crew And The Air Traffic Controller For Being So Cool And Understanding The Problem. Now Both Under Stand There Are 370 Souls On Board.
@intertwinedswastikainmatin6548
@intertwinedswastikainmatin6548 6 жыл бұрын
It's got to be 317. The B773ER has a max capacity of 335.
@deejay9474
@deejay9474 5 жыл бұрын
You capitalized every word except appreciate.
@markdoldon8852
@markdoldon8852 5 жыл бұрын
ATC was NOT understanding. Towards the end he clearly assumed they were going to be able to use ILS. He had completely forgotten the whole point of the exercise.
@markdoldon8852
@markdoldon8852 5 жыл бұрын
@@intertwinedswastikainmatin6548 Souls on board includes crew
@intertwinedswastikainmatin6548
@intertwinedswastikainmatin6548 5 жыл бұрын
@@markdoldon8852 B773ER Max Capacity == 335.
@mohammedali808
@mohammedali808 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent communication skills displayed by both sides. Congratulation guys for a job well done considering instrument failures.
@rahulmig35
@rahulmig35 6 жыл бұрын
Air India has the best aviators. As one with integral knowledge of aviation, I can proudly say that Air India pilots are world class
@bishopscore
@bishopscore 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I admire their professionalism
@ninadachrekar7215
@ninadachrekar7215 6 жыл бұрын
Okay so the pilots were Rustom Palia (Pilot, featured in this video) and Sushant Singh (Co-Pilot). But is there any chance I can get the name of the ATC guy?
@zgemboadislic8367
@zgemboadislic8367 5 жыл бұрын
that's Stephen Abraham, the legendary Kennedy Steve
@Maxfli82
@Maxfli82 5 жыл бұрын
Zgembo Adislic Can’t be, Wikipedia says he retired in 2017.
@stargazer7644
@stargazer7644 5 жыл бұрын
@@zgemboadislic8367 It does sound like Kennedy Steve, but if this was really Sept 2018 he was no longer working ATC.
@7srider
@7srider 6 жыл бұрын
The heroics of the pilots must be made aware to the world! Superb skills and they were so calm, a vital key in landing the plane safely!
@indrajitmondal6615
@indrajitmondal6615 6 жыл бұрын
Huge respect to the Pilots and the crews
@jimmybindra
@jimmybindra 6 жыл бұрын
wow ! ...great stuff guys & staying cool amidst such pressure. U saved many !
@Rayray-zu1hd
@Rayray-zu1hd 5 жыл бұрын
I’m glad they were bookworm
@sahilrizvi6583
@sahilrizvi6583 5 жыл бұрын
Whats bookworm
@xaverlustig3581
@xaverlustig3581 5 жыл бұрын
@Pink Snapper It's at 0:30 in the introduction. Normally "bookworm" means well-read, but perhaps it has some other meaning in Indian English? Well-trained would make sense in context.
@Captian_kid1
@Captian_kid1 6 жыл бұрын
Hats off to the pilots and controller
@VarunSolanki
@VarunSolanki 6 жыл бұрын
Yes they worked hard and deserve a clap!
@ProcalcitoninC
@ProcalcitoninC 6 жыл бұрын
Both Tower & pilots kept their cool under pressure. How can this be prevented in future is the main question
@tommyt4062
@tommyt4062 6 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or did ATC seem a bit slow at understanding the situation? The plane was low on fuel and had instrument failure but they didn't seem to understand what the pilot wanted. He was asking for an airport that had a high cloud ceiling so he could see the runway on approach and fly the plane manually, not come through the cloud then find he didn't have time to make corrections and fly straight into the ground. I think the pilot was much calmer than I would have been, I would not want to keep repeating myself in that situation.
@markdoldon8852
@markdoldon8852 5 жыл бұрын
I think the ATC had some In kling that they needed a higher ceiling, but either he never understood why or he forgot because he clearly thought they were doing an ILS approach to Newark.
@zoro47-v2k
@zoro47-v2k 5 жыл бұрын
Kudos to all. Fully professional teamwork by JFK ATC and AI 101 Pilots. At no moment Pilots seems to have lost their nerves. Moreover, JFK ATC guy's conversation / voice also seems to have boosted the confidence of all involved.
@noelanish
@noelanish 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing nerves. Just a visual landing with visibility limited to 600ft. Kudos!
@pankajjaiswal6498
@pankajjaiswal6498 6 жыл бұрын
Super cool , barely understood the acronyms, but understood the situation. That was some professionalism.
@longislandsound
@longislandsound 6 жыл бұрын
tons of credit to the AI crew for working this out in a non-native language. not an easy thing to do over a radio considering the situation. i don’t question the airmanship of crews flying into the NYC area, but some foreign carriers have poor english communication skills that would complicate situations like this.
@tvarad
@tvarad 6 жыл бұрын
From the accents of the pilots, it is clear that they went to schools where English was the primary language so communication was not a big deal for them. One of the funny situations I found myself as a tech guy in the U.S. was that I was anointed the proof reader for the documentation for our products even though I was born in India and the rest of my group was born in the U.S.!
@appiana4009
@appiana4009 6 жыл бұрын
tvarad uhhhhhh....uhh.....uhhhhh
@sameerbhatnagar9048
@sameerbhatnagar9048 6 жыл бұрын
Non Native ? Indians are native speakers of English...in Major Cities English is the primary language.
@agneyfernandes
@agneyfernandes 6 жыл бұрын
India has the largest amount of non-native English speakers
@agneyfernandes
@agneyfernandes 6 жыл бұрын
Dont understand 4 dislikes for this comment 🤔
@cyrilgomez
@cyrilgomez 6 жыл бұрын
Man some really good pilots .and ATC courtesy .sent a chill down my spine man...🤤😨
@cyrilgomez
@cyrilgomez 6 жыл бұрын
Ghummo.in when the ATC controller asked how many souls on board (for body count during rescue operations ) and that he wished he do do more help it felt like it was the aircrafts last moments ..omg I almost cried ..
@starboy9384
@starboy9384 6 жыл бұрын
Hats off to air India crew and ATC
@vu3mes
@vu3mes 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Thanks for the audio clip, an airband communications enthusiast here. The very professional approach of the pilot and the atc is to appreciated.
@TheFlyingExperience
@TheFlyingExperience 6 жыл бұрын
6:37 - (TREND) 9:16 is the first time you sense a little bit of desperation and a sense of urgency. GOOD JOB ALL!!! CHEERS
@TheJainmehul
@TheJainmehul 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Rohan! How are you? Still waiting on your new videos! xD
@TheFlyingExperience
@TheFlyingExperience 6 жыл бұрын
haha...ya, still very much here and I promise to entertain you shortly (I know its been 4 years since I uploaded anything but there was a reason - you'll understand when you watch the first video I upload)
@rajeshvaddiparthi7063
@rajeshvaddiparthi7063 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome presence of mind to locate options in times of chaos...Well done team Air India and PILOT and US
@cesarioj.f.g.7959
@cesarioj.f.g.7959 6 жыл бұрын
Great team work by both Crew and ATC...hats off :)
@RameesMuhammedMK
@RameesMuhammedMK 6 жыл бұрын
I've got a lot of things to say against Air India any day. But this mind blowing! The Pilots handled the situation really well without panicking , so did the JFK ATC! who helped them with instructions. Well done guys!
@skynsand4223
@skynsand4223 6 жыл бұрын
Calm! And presence of mind! Kudos pilots and atc
@pradeepjoglekar4034
@pradeepjoglekar4034 6 жыл бұрын
No words to describe how the course of events unfolded and the calm and professional manner it was handed by the pilots and traffic controller. Cudos to them both.
@chaitanyabenna4893
@chaitanyabenna4893 6 жыл бұрын
The inaudible words are Trend, aloft and the APU is an Auxiliary Power Unit that runs a few electrical systems on board. And god bless the atc, the pilot. And the 370 on board.
@themtoniraniremaxbroker2447
@themtoniraniremaxbroker2447 6 жыл бұрын
Totally in Control all the way down and looking at so many Alternates at the same time. Very Professional and Composed Air India Pilots and the ATC showed real class in Handling this multiple Instrumentation failure and found a Solution in quick time before the fuel burn out. Most people in small emergencies freak out so quickly! !
@buckbuchanan5849
@buckbuchanan5849 6 жыл бұрын
Cool and calm, excellent in the cockpit and also that controller.
@NealB123
@NealB123 6 жыл бұрын
That was superbly handled by everyone. True professionalism. If I'm the pilot, I'm going to have a LONG talk with my maintenance folks when I get home.
@stephaniedejesus5704
@stephaniedejesus5704 5 жыл бұрын
I am nooo pro or anything but ATC didn't seem to be very useful. Pilots came up with their own solutions and had to repeat the same information 100 times to the ATC guy. :-/
@vancouver4sure
@vancouver4sure 5 жыл бұрын
At the first report of loss of instruments this was an emergency - ATC should have assumed that and declared it for the pilots.
@Somd55
@Somd55 5 жыл бұрын
No that’s how radio comms work, repeat and confirm
@CKDNath
@CKDNath 6 жыл бұрын
Pilots score high on self regulation. Showed excellence in collaboration with ATC. Amazing leadership abilities...
@SimHustler
@SimHustler 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing stuff as usual from Air India Pilots!
@SwanandKulkarni2194
@SwanandKulkarni2194 6 жыл бұрын
Thank for sharing this man, appreciate your work. Been looking for this one on other channels.
@varungambhir7221
@varungambhir7221 6 жыл бұрын
No one is mentioning the coincidence this happened on SEPTEMBER 11TH in NYC
@carstensh.3112
@carstensh.3112 6 жыл бұрын
You are right.
@tonkerdog1
@tonkerdog1 6 жыл бұрын
So what
@spookitanuki
@spookitanuki 6 жыл бұрын
tonkerdog1 that's the 911 day woah
@spookitanuki
@spookitanuki 6 жыл бұрын
tonkerdog1 gnarly
@TootUncommon
@TootUncommon 6 жыл бұрын
Varun: maybe I misunderstood or perhaps I'm too sensitive, but "Lol" really?
@Rhinozherous
@Rhinozherous 6 жыл бұрын
Very good communications here, Pilots and ATC offered all options without emotional distortion! Good work
@divinetemples5940
@divinetemples5940 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for nice video. Kudos to ATC and pilots to have solved the problem with cool and calm composure. Not sure if passengers were informed of the situation. How did you get this recording? Just curious.
@AureliusR
@AureliusR 5 жыл бұрын
LiveATC.net
@hmcvalesano
@hmcvalesano 6 жыл бұрын
My heart was racing! I wish everyone could remain so calm!
@riderextreme7338
@riderextreme7338 6 жыл бұрын
That was something...LNAV-VNAV approach.....awesome....👍👍👍👍
@laklinka
@laklinka 6 жыл бұрын
Great example here of training and professionalism!! Kudos to all involved 👍
@NikNikam
@NikNikam 6 жыл бұрын
Air India 101 approaching JFK on Sept 11, 2018, with multiple instrument failures! NIK NIKAM, MD. The dialog between the JKF control and AI101 pilot is one of the fainest examples of calmness, professionalism, and smartest humans minds at work, when AI101 was running low on fuel with 370 passengers on board. I would consider these brave men to be equal to God, if you believe in miracles! NNN Media
@waynejennings7046
@waynejennings7046 6 жыл бұрын
No sir, it is called training, training, training. And proficiency. Keep up your proficiency, it will become handy some day.
@mussaramadan
@mussaramadan 6 жыл бұрын
Stupid.. nothing equal God
@AureliusR
@AureliusR 5 жыл бұрын
@@mussaramadan Correct, because god is a made-up fairy tale to make people feel better about themselves
@ApolloWasReal
@ApolloWasReal 5 жыл бұрын
Any word on the ultimate cause of all those instrument failures?
@mohammedshaik7113
@mohammedshaik7113 6 жыл бұрын
Superb job by AI pilots even ATC too but the higher risk is for pilots being in middle of the situation, the sad part is how all this will go unrecognized with Governments in India current past everyone has destroyed the image of national icon! salutes to our heros!
@millardkeyes5187
@millardkeyes5187 6 жыл бұрын
Too busy loud mouthing meaningless slogans. Indian leaders have adopted work less talk more approach since 1947
@bogo_wanderlust3692
@bogo_wanderlust3692 6 жыл бұрын
+Francesco Calle de rivas lol 😂😂😂. And how do you know. From your name you sound italian,spanisj or latin american...those nations are better than india but surely their leaders just talk and do nothig
@mysticfriend
@mysticfriend 2 жыл бұрын
Sushant ji do what you doing and say what u feel right, its very imp for country and countrymen to know story's other side than narrative shown in main stream media with all plan to break india. God bless you.
@PRATIKJAINvlogs
@PRATIKJAINvlogs 6 жыл бұрын
good....but y it's showing on my timeline since from past 3 days?
@MrFaizalrahuman
@MrFaizalrahuman 6 жыл бұрын
Great Job. Big salute to AI and ATC . They handle in nice way and successfully they made the landing. Excellent guys.
@rishlife
@rishlife 6 жыл бұрын
Commendable landing by the captain. If it was the USA he would have been felicitated by the authorities and even the president. Sadly in India this was barely covered by the press.
@kmohan24
@kmohan24 6 жыл бұрын
Sorry he wasn't a film star, cricketer or a politician. He was just an awesome pilot doing his job. No TRP, no vote bank, who cares?
@stevea1288
@stevea1288 6 жыл бұрын
Now that's how you solve a very serious problem!! Incredible
@williambush7971
@williambush7971 6 жыл бұрын
I'd like to know the condition of the aircraft when it departed. I can't believe an aircraft with even minimum maint. can have that many things go wrong on one flight.
@stargazer7644
@stargazer7644 5 жыл бұрын
If you have a problem on a power bus you will have multiple failures like this.
@bobkumar8754
@bobkumar8754 5 жыл бұрын
Proper pilots and very professional and courteous at all times.
@jslasher1
@jslasher1 6 жыл бұрын
Fascinated by the professional demeanour and logistics of all concerned. Well done AI and JFK controllers.
@ej2758
@ej2758 4 жыл бұрын
Did I hear our friend Kennedy Steve from ATC? Awesome upload, incredible teamwork and situational management.
@nickviyof284
@nickviyof284 5 жыл бұрын
At Timer 13:11...Controller: Air India 101, is there anything else you need from me?Just the reassuring words you want to hear in a tough situation like this; to know someone out there has got your back!!! Good job all!
@naknaksdadn572
@naknaksdadn572 5 жыл бұрын
APU= auxiliary power unit. Very important when systems are failing and back up power is needed. Controller needs to learn what that means and is and what it does.
@donatedpants420
@donatedpants420 5 жыл бұрын
What makes you think they do not and what do you think ATC can do about it?
@naknaksdadn572
@naknaksdadn572 5 жыл бұрын
The controller stated that he did not know what it (APU) means. FO requested METARS for KSWF which is found on the ATIS frequency which the controller never provided. The ALT is at the discretion of the flight crew not the controller. This back and forth expended critical time with the aircraft heading away from KSWF and any potential vectors for an ILS or non precision/VFR approach to either runway 27 or 09. However, KEWR became a better option for ALT. Seconds are critical in these situations. Watch the video again please, you might catch it. ATC can possibly take a course to become better familiar with avionics and onboard operating systems. This will assist in understanding what it is that a very busy flight crew is trying to covey to him/her. Hope this helped.
@donatedpants420
@donatedpants420 5 жыл бұрын
@@naknaksdadn572 Yeah, listened again and that's a typo in the CC, the controller says (12:16) "I didn't understand that one, the last one" as in he could not understand what was said not that he didn't know what APU means. CC says "I didn't understand what the last one meant" but that is not what he said. I find it hard to believe that a controller working some of the busiest airspace around who is clearly well versed in the acronyms would not know what an APU is. I think you should listen again and remember that the controller is working several other aircraft, that audio is edited out, and that AI has not declared any sort of emergency. Yes seconds are critical but likely the reason AI never declare an emergency is they still had options fuel and airports wise. If anything the controller was very accommodating and AI was a tad slow in communicating just how much was wrong with the aircraft, an opinion not criticism. Also the lack of an APU is only rely concerning if they were to lose both engines and the RAT in which case I believe the Manuel reads "bend over, kiss your ass goodbye". Thanks for the polite response.
@naknaksdadn572
@naknaksdadn572 5 жыл бұрын
@@donatedpants420 Thanks for you pointing that out to me. i caught the [cc} myself. i was somewhat astonished to believe that the controller would not know what an APU is. Indeed an APU would used be if both engines failed. Than it would be "c ya". i am familiar with JFK controllers when i was flying private pilot in the NYC metro area. They are perhaps some of the finest in the world. Thank you for also being polite and professional. This is what should occur on these channels. Regards!
@salimx
@salimx 6 жыл бұрын
god bless the ATC and The Awesome Crew
@dave2stars
@dave2stars 6 жыл бұрын
Piece of cake for these skilled aviators.... Captain & FO commendable Professionalism.
@james-p
@james-p 5 жыл бұрын
The JFK controller sounds like Kennedy Steve. Just the guy I'd want if I were in that situation!
@Brigadelokcom
@Brigadelokcom 5 жыл бұрын
Same impression for me. The man, and a good pilot...
@kiddygamer0065
@kiddygamer0065 5 жыл бұрын
Duh.!!! Because its him.!!! The one and only K.Steve❤️
@james-p
@james-p 5 жыл бұрын
@@kiddygamer0065 The Man. The Legend!
@billy5821
@billy5821 5 жыл бұрын
YUP! We all recognized him, :>))
@azhalhalil9429
@azhalhalil9429 5 жыл бұрын
@@kiddygamer0065 are you sure? I think hes retired?
@katrinajones8788
@katrinajones8788 5 жыл бұрын
OMG! Scary stuff. Bravo to the crew!
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