ATEM 9.5 Update: Unlocking New Webcam Output & USB Direct Control Features with MixEffect

[@GrandAdventChurchSDA]

Great work as usual! Enjoy it every time you come onto office hours!

[@TerenceKearns]

You are a genius my man. Who would even think of poking and prodding all these hacks. Nice work 👏

[@ShervinShares]

links to the two apps you're using on your iPad?

[@AdamTow]

It's just one app, my MixEffect app: mixeffect.app

[@carpetbomberz]

4:52 I'm no Electrical Engineer, but thanks for the "hack". Something is not auto-sensing on the USB interface that's for certain. Will definitely use a Powered Hub if needed.

[@FluidPrompter]

Time to take advantage of the network effect and see how many USB cables the community can test to find one that works without dongles!

[@davydavy6419]

Thanks @Adam for the walkthrough. Have you found a way to charge the ipad while using the usbc for webcam

[@AdamTow]

USB-C Hub. I have a recommendation for the UNI 8-port USB-C hub in the article: docs.mixeffect.app/configure/external-camera-support

[@davydavy6419]

@@AdamTow thanks for the help, will have a look at it

[@betetet]

Thank you sooooo Much!

[@MonoRec88]

Does this also work with the ATEM 2 M/E Constellation 4K? Edit: @7:38 Yes it does.

[@PrMamadouSow]

Hi. Tanks for sharing. About MixEffet without internet connexion, i tested the method using the IP address of my ATEM Mini Extreme ISO HDMI version, connected to my iPad Pro M1 via a USB-A to USB-C converter, and using MixEffect Pro where I encountered an ATEM Constellation simulator. Despite disabling the simulator in settings, the Constellation persists when using the IP address of my ATEM Mini Extreme ISO.

[@AdamTow]

Most likely, you entered the IP address of your iPad Pro, NOT the IP address of the ATEM. When plugged in directly to the ATEM using USB, the IP address of the ATEM is one minus the IP address of your iPad. For instance: if X.Y.Z.124 is the address of your iPad, the address of the ATEM should be X.Y.Z.123. Whenever you see the purple bar at the top of your screen, you are connected to the simulator running in MixEffect.

[@tedz2000]

Great great great stuff Adam, all we need now is a recording feature in mix effect to capture the footage for recording - wish apple had quicktime for IPAD .. does anyone know of any apps that would record the USB web cam.. thanks keep up the great work - Best App Ever --thanks

[@AdamTow]

It's possible to record that, but I don't do it in MixEffect. I don't do this because the user might leave the app to do something else, which will sever the connection to the ATEM and USB camera. It's not a good user experience, so I'll leave recording the footage to other more dedicated hardware or software.

[@estrellasfamosasenaccion]

can one access all these features with a regular ipad and atem extreme iso Wirelessly? no cables involved, im interested in the multi window set up showing myself and guest as well as my third cameta angle all at the same time

[@AdamTow]

You can use Wi-Fi to control the ATEM. In order to show video from the multiview, you have to use the Remote Webview feature and switcher panel. This involves setting up a VDO.ninja stream between a computer that is capturing the Multiview and the iPad. Learn more at: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fWSUemd4eNB9d7Msi=PGePXWMapc1oerii and docs.mixeffect.app/configure/remote-webview

[@Bun_Salool]

Hi Adam, Can you give us a demonstration when the new MixEffect version comes out on ZOOM easy to use for guest remote callers.

[@AdamTow]

I still recommend something like ZoomISO. I should do a new video one day since much has improved on the ZoomISO front.

[@TheSeanBampton]

@@AdamTow There needs to be something similar to ZoomISO for those of us who use Teams. Being a government employee, the IT numbskulls have locked out the NDI capability of Teams and won't authorize me to use OBS even if I had NDI. TeamsISO would be fantastic.

[@LANI-VIDEO]

My ATEM MINI EXTREME ISO has a serious problem after the 9.5.1 update - it stopped recording to the ssd disk - it had to be reinstalled to version 8.6 and it is recording again, you don't know what the problem could be, I feel that the update is not correct

[@AdamTow]

People have reported SSD issues. Check Blackmagic’s list of supported SSDs to see if anything changed in the 9.5.1 update.

[@LANI-VIDEO]

@@AdamTow I'm using a Samsung T7 ssd - it should be supported after the new update, but it's not - I also wrote to BD support but no response from them

[@AdamTow]

@@LANI-VIDEOanother user on my MixEffect Facebook group mentioned they had a T7 which no longer worked. The person said it’s not longer on the list of supported drives. The T7 Shield SSF does work however. You have a choice to stay on the older firmware (which would mean you lose some of the new functionality) or get a different SSD drive. Sorry!

[@MrMyzl1]

Hey Adam, let me know if you hear any word of issues with some Sandisk Extreme Pro SSD's. After upgading to 9.5 on my ATEM Mini Extreme ISO, 2 out of 3 Sandisk Exptreme Pro SSD's would no longer show up as a drive on the ATEM.

[@AdamTow]

Oh no! I am doing a show this week with the Extreme and will have to test my SSD drives to make sure they work before the show.

[@dugsbugs1]

@@AdamTow I have just tested my extreme 1tb and it works fine. I know that some usb cables don't work with the atem so make sure you use the one that came with the hard drive. One thing that no one is talking about is that you can now connect to OBS via the usb C on the atem and not needing to use a capture device anymore. I haven't tried it in the real world yet but testing so far seems to work ok. This gives the ability to record directly into OBS.

[@PawePiotrowskiUK]

Why are USB dongles necessary? Why does USB act like that? Why iPad do not recognise ATEM without these dongles? I am confused...

[@AdamTow]

Read some of the other comments on this video for an explanation on why dongles may be necessary. They explain it better than I could!

[@mindrevive]

Great work sir, wondering does Mixeffect have any compatibility with the webpresenters?

[@AdamTow]

You should be able to plug in a WebPresenter and see it as a USB webcam input.

[@mindrevive]

@AdamTow interesting ill try that out. in general, I want to control my whole stream from the IPAD, so is there a way to edit webpresenter settings using mixeffect?

[@AdamTow]

@@mindrevive Ah... there are shortcut actions to communicate to the web presenter, but there's no GUI for controlling a Web Presenter in MixEffect. Look for the documentation on Send BMD Ethernet Command in the Shortcuts action section: docs.mixeffect.app/automate/shortcuts/actions/send-bmd-ethernet-protocol-command and refer to the Ethernet Protocol documentation in the Web Presenter Manual.

[@mindrevive]

@AdamTow Thanks for this, I definitely will, thanks a bunch. Do you have any cool updates planned for mix effect?

[@mindrevive]

@@AdamTow I think your updates at times are even more exciting than BMD sometimes

[@elitheelectronicsguy]

Adam, are you able to get the uvc multicam into mixeffect to work on ipads with the lighting connector?

[@AdamTow]

I don’t think this will work because external webcam support in iPadOS only works via the USB-C connector.

[@elitheelectronicsguy]

@@AdamTow thanks

[@vuyojoboda]

Hi Adam. Your app is not working with my IPhone 15 pro Max. It worked once after paying for the Pro version. Since then it has not worked. It says connected to the switcher but when I press the cameras on the switcher on your app nothing happens on my switcher, it doesn’t switch at all. There’s no video tutorial on this nor is there anyway to contact your app for help. My local network settings is on but nothing. This is so disappointing especially after paying for the pro.

[@AdamTow]

I refer you to the Connection Help section of the documentation, which covers common problems with connecting. docs.mixeffect.app/support/connection-help I suspect that your iPhone and your ATEM are not on the same network. Or, your ATEM’s IP address has changed from when you initially set it up. This is why I recommend setting up the ATEM with a static IP address using the ATEM Setup application on your Mac/PC. When you say it’s connected to the switcher, I also suspect that you are connected to the ATEM Simulator, NOT your ATEM. If you were connected to the real switcher, it would work properly. Search my channel for the video on connecting to the ATEM using MixEffect for additional guidance.

[@drmathtex]

Hi Adam - what usbc hub do you recommend for the setup you describe? Thanks!

[@AdamTow]

I detail this here: docs.mixeffect.app/configure/external-camera-support

[@drmathtex]

Thanks!

[@ailtvonline3121]

I do not understand I paid for Mix effect but never worked do I really have to buy the it again?

[@AdamTow]

Familiarize yourself with the two different versions of MixEffect here. You do not need to buy again. mixeffect.app/pro-explanation/ if you are having connection problems, please review: docs.mixeffect.app/support/connection-help I have many videos covering how to connect on this YT channel. If you have further questions, please use the feedback link in the app and we will continue troubleshooting over email.

[@rowbyrowby]

Thanks. Fascinating. I liked and subscribed. …Rowby.

[@Urbanmediashowcase]

Can you suggest a decent usb hub? Thanks for all the great videos and software.

[@AdamTow]

Yes, I recommend the Uni 8-port hub. I have a link to it here: docs.mixeffect.app/configure/external-camera-support

[@Urbanmediashowcase]

@@AdamTow thank you.

[@youtubenapratica.]

Not compatible with: ATEM Mini Pro ISO?

[@AdamTow]

ATEM 9.5 update and MixEffect are compatible with the ATEM Mini Pro ISO.

[@youtubenapratica.]

@@AdamTow I bought the MixEffect Pro. When I connect it to my iPad, it always identifies my ATEM Mini Pro ISO as an ATEM Simulator, not giving me the options and settings of the Switcher.

[@youtubenapratica.]

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[@youtubenapratica.]

@@AdamTow kzbin.info/www/bejne/qX27Z3mnbrOmr8k

[@AdamTow]

@@youtubenapratica. That's because the IP address you're entering in MixEffect is the MixEffect IP address, NOT the IP address of your ATEM Mini Pro ISO. Get it from ATEM Setup on your Mac/PC and input that into MixEffect instead. docs.mixeffect.app/support/connection-help for more tips.

[@JohnDoe69]

why this is not also for HD8, HD8 ISO, HD8 4k

[@mariotriforce]

It will likely come imo

[@AdamTow]

I hope BMD brings configurable webcam output to these switchers. Until then, you can use the current method using the AUX outputs: docs.mixeffect.app/configure/external-camera-support

[@JohnDoe69]

@@AdamTow I am waiting more the custom multiview options and grid lines

[@steffiiizh]

I think the reason, why you need the usb-dongles, is probably the usb-c-cable is too capable. I had the same problem with atem switcher on modern Microsoft Surface Pro devices. Using an older cable made it work

[@AdamTow]

I tried a variety of usb-c to usb-c cables from fancy ones to old ones. I will try more when I am back at my ATEM.

[@zzyzx13]

Chiming in, the reason why a USB-C cable from the switcher to the iPad doesn't work is because for some reason the handshake that determines which device is the host and which is the client, prioritizes the ATEM as the host. Using a C-to-A cable or a pair of dongles is able to force the ATEM to be seen as the client. this most likely would have to be fixed by black magic design

[@AdamTow]

@@zzyzx13 Thanks for the response. This sounds right to me. Some people have come back to me saying they've found a USB-C to USB-C cable that works. Could it be that some are constructed differently?

[@Jason-mk3nn]

There is something strange about BMD's usb-c support. Sometimes it works, sometimes it does not. If it is not going to be standard, I with they would just sell one that is guaranteed to work. I have a couple Extreme ISOs that don't work right and I can only reset them once i a blue moon, because it refuses to see the usb-c connection, despite trying dozens of usb-c cables.

[@zzyzx13]

@@AdamTow Indeed some are likely just constructed with the USB 2.0 wires only.