Athena (Ember Moon) On Frustrations With WWE Creative

[@Greg93x]

To use a quote from the late Brodie Lee, Ember finally reached her "fuck this place" moment.

[@lracseroom8286]

Same Brodie Lee who'd probably still be alive if he worked in a place with a professional medical staff and the wrestlers aren't just allowed to do whatever TF they want? That Brodie Lee? Also, ZERO chance you were even a mild fan of his until he died and he was annointed Jesus Christ of Smarkdom.

[@carlosr6462]

@@lracseroom8286 does it hurt being so stupid ?

[@Baller4Now]

@@lracseroom8286 wow, get fucked dude. This isn't AEW vs. WWE, go somewhere else

[@budgiecat2885]

@@lracseroom8286 Now you're really showing your obesity

[@borngeek]

@@lracseroom8286 stand up for WWE 😂

[@cmderinchief]

Is it wrong to say that my heart broke when she started to cry? I liked her already. This seals it - as long as she is a wrestler, I am a fan of hers.

[@spideysim3892]

I feel you, I’m naturally a really empathetic person and I’ve always loved Ember it was really hard to watch as she expressed what she had to go through.

[@lracseroom8286]

simp

[@budgiecat2885]

@@spideysim3892 she put her heart and passion and blood sweat and tears out there and they just trampled on it because they dont appreciate it. Not cool

[@UFCWWE69]

Soft

[@TravelingPhilosopher]

It is not wrong, it shows that you empathized with her on a deep emotional level and it affected you.

[@seanhuggan1989]

She spoke with a lot of respect, and it didn't sound like it was coming from a place of bitterness, but just a respectful honesty. Sad that Ember wasn't used better.

[@CarbonGod666]

Light Shiners L

[@CarbonGod666]

@MicoMedia Universe L

[@Vesperitis]

That "I'VE GIVEN YOU THE ENTIRE RIGHT SIDE OF MY BODY" outburst is so genuine. You can tell, this is the real sticking point for her. She broke herself for the company, and nobody cared about the work that she put in, when she has been nothing but a team player. You can't be a team player if the team doesn't care about you.

[@wingedhussar1453]

It ultimately doesntn matter.in WWE u are just a character.a character cast first and wrestler second.if they don't need you then they let you go.just like a show.they keep around certain guys like Miz or Dolph only because theyr pieces that are always in midcard and are reliable

[@AneesSarwar34]

@@wingedhussar1453 it doesn’t make it right though, and it’s never fun to see talented people get released and mediocre people getting pushed.

[@wingedhussar1453]

@@AneesSarwar34 yea it does,your a character if they feel they can't fit u on the show or they don't want to use u it's all on them.you should always know this as a WWE wrestler,she can still be a wrestler,it's just that WWE sees no plan in her

[@AneesSarwar34]

@@wingedhussar1453 dude even the so called “characters” they are pushing are mediocre, at least with ember moon I knew I was gonna be entertained in the ring, and Vince didn’t even give her a chance to develop on the main roster, so he doesn’t give them a chance and still lets them go, no wonder they don’t fit cuz Vince won’t let them.

[@wingedhussar1453]

@@AneesSarwar34 bro she had 5 years to get somehwere with her character and gimmick ,they just didnt see her as the kind of girls they want

[@Heroesworkshop]

Mick Foley was right. A lot of new talent shouldn't trust WWE with their careers. A lot of people sit parked in NXT for years just to get released once Vince gets his hands on you. The novelty wears off quick.

[@Madworld8975]

When did he say this?

[@Rastasskate2]

@@Madworld8975 Mick Foley’s channel

[@gbej1]

@@Rastasskate2 The question was *when* did he say this. Post the link so we can watch and listen to him say it

[@KoolKeithProductions]

@@gbej1 Foley said it not too long ago, because l believe he referenced Keith Lee and Kross, who were both released in the past 6 months. Sadly, l think he has a point. Just imagine if The Rock, Stone Cold or John Cena were starting out in wwe today. All 3 would have likely been released, because none of them started off as instant successes, or over with the fans. It took time, work and gimmick changes for them to find themselves, which is something the superstars of today don't get any of.

[@weece9442]

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[@turtlew1019]

Athena (Ember Moon) and Kana (Asuka) were the reason I got back into watching wrestling and they are currently my 2 favorite wrestlers period. What they did to Ember Moon's career at WWE is sickening for a wrestler of her skillset. Her NXT matches against Asuka are among thee best wrestling matches in the history of WWE. For them to draft her back to NXT and ruin her Win/Loss record there before her release...I stopped watched wrestling for a long while. It's so good to hear the backstory here and with her interview some time back with Booker T and even better to see her wrestling again. What she brought to the table...she should've at least had that RAW Women's championship around her waist and a refueled feud with Asuka and Shayna Baszler.

[@deadpoolnerd]

From this one clip you can definitely sense the feeling of love and pride Ember has for her work and what she does. Because yeah she could've just sat back accepted whatever bs they're throwing her way because the checks good. It's never good news to hear people let go, but at the very least she's in a better place she's where she can foster that love and passion and be happy. And that's way more important than money or any other bs.

[@krosskross1221]

Stop romanticizing that. Not everyone can find peace in WWE or any other company. Take Brian Cage in AEW for example. You have guys like Balor, Nakamura, female legends like Asuka staying in WWE because they care about their families. They care about their legacies and they want to be paid well in the biggest dream company they grew up wanting to be at. You can't get more than that. Going to AEW so people can say nice stuff about you in comment sections and Dave Metlzer can rate you five stars or you can be with Indy friends, not really the world's most tempting offers.

[@TheWrestlinEra]

CORRECT. F the money stick to your guns. Anyone who blindly takes an offer from WWE for more money or what have you are all clowns who in the long run will either be released anyway or unhappy as well lol.

[@deadpoolnerd]

@@krosskross1221 Those offers can be more tempting. Not everything is just money. Because look at Ember here, CM Punk in his intial interview Jon Moxley in his. All expressed some form of deep unhappiness and depression, just from a certain environment. To me no one should endure that, even if the pay is good. If you feel that way with any company you should be allowed to leave to go do what makes you happy. Sure nothing wrong with say Cody returning for his families legacy, Nakamura staying so he may provide for his family in America he's happy at. But if they become unhappy those reasons shouldn't be the reason to just accept that.

[@samcooper2474]

@@krosskross1221 🙄 quit pissing cool aid son. WWE is hardly the dream job it used to hype itself up as and all the talent still working there who don't get pushed know this. And AEW wrestlers also get provided with enough income to support their families too so that excuse is bust. And the promise of being able to do the thing you love without bs from creative or the boss, as apposed to being just another talent in the shuffle, is actually a lot more tempting to way more wrestlers than marks like you are willing to recognise. But by all means, do keep peddling that little narrative you cooked up.

[@studio3js196]

@@krosskross1221 I love how the commenters' point and even Ember’s comments are about having fun and being in love with working on their craft and work environment, and your comment immediately ran to the neckbeard talking point of wanting to gain happiness from social media comments and Meltzer ratings. I guess being slow like a special needs kid is what your kind is best at, so I can’t be too surprised

[@Rollyboy141]

Keep in mind, Athena/Ember was told during the first tryout “Didn’t have the Diva look” Guess things haven’t changed much

[@cliffordjackson3]

FACTS dude when your told you don’t have the diva look that goes to show how badly the wwe wants to go back to the days of the divas era where there are 2 or 3 minute matches, women’s championship are used a props, and they just focus on a women’s wrestlers looks instead of their actual ability in the ring.

[@tw475]

I'm not saying it hasn't. Tegan Nox said something very similar when she talked about her release. I also see Cora Jade and Gigi Dolin that don't have a typical diva look getting featured heavily on nxt.

[@almightycinder]

It's fairly random. They also refused to do anything with Taynara Conti, and she had the diva look. She was also clearly okay with the booty shorts, since she wears them in AEW. They just didn't want to do anything with her.

[@jczura5602]

@@almightycinder but Tay isn't a native english speaker. wwe wasn't going to do much with her because of that.

[@almightycinder]

@@jczura5602 They told her it was because they were more interested in using the indie wrestlers at the time.

[@KayamaKoomori]

Ember Moon was my most favorite female wrestler in not only NXT, but all WWE. She had an awesome look, awesome entrance theme, awesome finisher. She was an entire package. WWE creative is killing so many careers, and I'm honestly done with pro wrestling because of them

[@theghettoracle]

Agreed, from performance, charisma, style and athleticism you automatically knew first glance when she wrestled that she was special!

[@JohnHillRSNStudios]

Vince doesn’t realize that his ways are hurting the company. Yes he’s done a lot of great things and yes WWE is in great financial shape but creatively they’ve stunk it up for a long time save for the main event scene. When you change your mind dozens of times in the week leading up to the show, that’s not a good thing.

[@mckenziejohnson8449]

Amen

[@ShaneDouglas713]

FACTS

[@distortedsoul27]

Let's face it: he lucked into surviving by getting two megastars to hit at the same time in the late 90's, even then he was begrudgingly forced into the attitude era. Heck he even got rolefillers for Razor Ramon and Diesel because the gimmick was all that mattered to him. No offence to HHH or Taker but if it was just either of them as the head of the roster the company wouldn't have survived. Michaels didn't have the fans staying power and they found that out pretty early on into his early runs. The same argument could be said of Bret Hart once they went into the attitude era.

[@dejesusjason9936]

He doesn’t realize he’s killing peoples passion in this industry. He’s hurting their feelings and many of them just quit wrestling and go on with their normal life. He’s truly a poison to the wrestling industry

[@darkknight3251]

@@dejesusjason9936 His time has passed. For the better. He must let go completely. He did good work on his show in his prime.

[@brianmoore3243]

I feel bad for Ember and it's frustrating knowing there are those people, those "fans" that'll defend WWE and call Ember bitter or ungrateful, but the problems in wwe are plain to see

[@ShaneDouglas713]

FACTS

[@Thomas-kp8mo]

FACTS

[@nottoomuch87]

Been plain to see since it existed.

[@michaelsimmons1430]

I'm not sure if there's any fans that would defend WWE about ember Moon everybody knows they f*** that up lol

[@jimmynye3665]

No real Ember Moon fan would dare defend WWE for how dirty they did her. She never complained once to management even though she could see where it was all going. Dress more revealing and dress more like Mandy Rose like WTF???!!! I thought WWE was past all that sexualize the women bullshit! And then now apparently the moronic higher ups are trying to drag the women's division 10 years back like what the hell is their problem?! Mandy Rose Isn't even that good and they have the nerve to tell more deserving and talented women to dress like her? What a crock of shit man!

[@Chiwalker]

For a woman who has one of the most unique and cool finishers, the fact that WWE screwed up with her speaks volumes to how bad at least creative is. Should be a big red flag for any wrestler thinking of jumping ship to WWE.

[@blind-sidelocc6052]

AEW even worse...ijs

[@Liam_Graer]

@@blind-sidelocc6052 but your saying WWE is an absolute dumpster fire of awfulness right? WWE is terrible right? Your just adding that aew is bit worse ?

[@lracseroom8286]

the same finisher that will be a large part of her having a fake hip by 50?

[@Mephiam]

@@lracseroom8286 remind all of us with your sprewing across all the threads here- What is your list of accomplishments in the WWE? Or any circuit? Please share.....

[@moseman447]

@@lracseroom8286 The first thing I thought of. She should save that for big feuds and championship matches. Get another impactful finisher.

[@RoyallyRumbled]

"I am an adult, I can't deal with this high school bullshit." - how I feel about the drama at most "professional" places of employment.

[@MilkmanC]

Everyday I’ve got multiple fools who can’t bury the hatchet all quiet and awkward. Retail lol

[@lracseroom8286]

@@MilkmanC can’t bury the hatchet...so, like Ember here?

[@MilkmanC]

@@lracseroom8286 are we trying the complaining about complaining argument? 😂

[@bladestormviking]

@@lracseroom8286 ember is just being honest about her exp in the company and the toxic psycho bullshit they pull.

[@michaelsinger4638]

Especially when the old man in charge is the biggest man child out of all of them.

[@LeeEverett1]

Props to the interviewer for actually letting her talk and mostly listening. It's a small thing but I can't stand the ones who constantly interrupt, shift it on themselves, prematurely ending a topic just to ask another question etc.

[@CVVCLIPS]

Thanks very much Lee. I was just as interested in hearing this story as everyone else!

[@RVDv1]

This is heartbreaking and fascinating. If she came back this could be a great motivation for her character/promos.

[@joeboggio4002]

Man, they did her wrong on so many levels

[@darylhall2198]

they do everyone wrong

[@ShaneDouglas713]

FACTS

[@Wyatt6661]

Lol aew samw

[@trilogysequel5133]

@@Wyatt6661 Actually that’s not true. Wrestlers actually get creative control-input at AEW. Stop being a WWE fanladyboy

[@Wyatt6661]

@@trilogysequel5133 dude Two women Kiss in the center of the ring on aew and I’m not a blind guy but it’sI can count more then 10 who can see their butt cheeks come on

[@stevenhicks6751]

Man I feel so bad for her she literally has all the tools to be a main eventer in the women's division. Her first character was dope and would have been cool to see as a heel. Her finisher was one of the best. Sucks wwe really dropped the ball with her.

[@rleonardgreen78]

She kept getting injured and can't cut a promo.

[@iCycle086]

@@rleonardgreen78 agreed

[@thetruej7872]

@@rleonardgreen78 that's true

[@kerstonhuston540]

@@rleonardgreen78 Your point? Her promo work was decent and many of the top performers in the women's division have had injuries requiring long breaks, like Asuka and Bayley. It still stands that Ember was one of the better wrestlers on the roster and deserved better treatment (from what she described)

[@rleonardgreen78]

@@kerstonhuston540 she didn't deserve shit. She was one talent on a roster full of talent and she didnt like what WWE wanted to do with her, so she went home and got fired. Now she having garbage matches on the indys in gyms. Ember is like Tegan everytime they tried to push them they got injured and life moved on.

[@danisafilthycasual]

Damn I hope something huge comes around for her and reignites her passion for wrestling and brings her much happiness. I think we can all relate to how taxing being unhappy at your workplace can be, especially when it gets to the point of being mentally destructive, so all the best to her.

[@marcushamner5994]

I can’t wait for this interview. Ember Moon was criminally underused and underrated in WWE. I’m glad she is doing well right now! You both rock CVV!🤓🎙👊🏾👊🏾

[@TornadoTagPodcast]

Preach !

[@KM-lc6hj]

Agreed.

[@marcushamner5994]

AWWWW THANKS GUYS!! CVV even gave me a shoutout at Sqaure Circle Expo courtesy of my friend Erwin who went there! I’ll post it on my channel! I love you guys! 😊👊🏾👊🏾🏅

[@ninjagolloydstudiosx6057]

Facts! I have never been so mad with a superstar being released since Bray Wyatt!

[@Ccubed92]

She always been really attractive to me and also loved her wrestling style very different from the others and got me interested in actually watching the full match.

[@chandlercollins806]

I remember on one episode of NXT when Ember was facing Dakota with Raquel ringside and I heard Raquel said to Ember “You’re nothing without Shotzi!”. Granted this being shortly after Shotzi was called up to main roster. I know it was supposed to be kayfabe and all but I knew it was management’s way of burying her before eventually firing her. Good for her coming out fully about her time there, hope she finds another promotion that sees her as a star she is.

[@VoodooApex]

Yea. I’m on Athena’s side 100. She’s up there as a talent with Asuka, Sasha, Bayley, and Io but they purposely misuse her

[@wingedhussar1453]

Asuka is probly next to get cut soon.her character got stale same with ember moon

[@saintmyzeri]

It blows my mind with her gimmick, her talent, her desire, and her personality how she didn’t get to be the face of women’s wrestling. I still remember seeing her wrestle for the first time in NXT and being blown away. I really hope that she gets a chance to go to AEW or ROH to prove WWE wrong.

[@charlesbuckley5615]

She can't cut promos and what was he gimmick??Do you watch TV or just look at the screen?

[@YousefTube]

It's the same ones

[@charlesbuckley5615]

@@YousefTube People be so blind to the facts.I watched her NXT run and she never developed her character

[@YousefTube]

I wasn't talkin about her I was saying it's the same company ROH or Vanilla Midgets Wrestling they're both owned by the same money mark with same followers these marks make it sounds like it's two separate entities.

[@tan8067]

Face of women's wrestling is a bit of a stretch, but I agree that she deserved better.

[@jugghead82]

The work that I have seen of Ember Moon is incredible.

[@pleutron]

I've only seen less than a handful of Ember's matches. I've seen more of her playing DnD stuff on the UpUpDwnDwn channel. But I'm a fan. I enjoyed this interview and her sharing her emotions.

[@BigKingBB76]

Great talent, hard worker, doesn't complain, worked great with others, I missed this woman...

[@darrylwallace2428]

Poor gal. I applaud her for being professional for as long as she could be, and being brave enough to walk away when she finally had enough.

[@erichcowgill6068]

Hope she gets signed somewhere soon.

[@ThePrinceVon]

HHH was really the glue that held it all together

[@farhanfmx]

I'm sad about the fact I got really interested in Ember during her final period in WWE. Before that she was either away for injury or not being used at all. Wish her all the best! She really has a lot of passion for this business. Not WWE but wrestling.

[@FigWidIt]

Really enjoyed her surprise return to NXT and her tag team with Shotzi looked like she was having more fun than she ever had on the main roster. They should have kept them together longer.

[@HCIbn]

When I heard she went back to NXT it was only a matter of time before they let her go.

[@vonVile]

Athena should definitely sign with Impact. It's the environment in wrestling she's looking for. She'll get pushed right.

[@MrKlw19]

Stop it,she needs to be on tv

[@YousefTube]

you wanna be on TV become a celebrity

[@elena6516]

She's awesome to see her breakdown like that breaks my heart. I hope she gets a shot at AEW or ROH

[@gregoneal8880]

I love ember moon she has the best finisher in the business barnone

[@hardcoreocealot]

Ember has a fire in her and I love it.

[@briansf7012]

Ember is great. Saw a dark match on KZbin against Asuka. Before I saw her NXT . And she blew me away. Just want to wish her all the best and hope she ends up in a place that knows how to utilize her abilities.

[@richardlovelace8134]

Coming from her I believe every word. People always say how much their creative sucks.

[@kam8460]

Excellent interview. I have to say Ember/Shotzi was my favorite part of Ember's WWE run. I had so much hype for them. They were a star act. Absolutely brutal what has happened with both of them after the split, but so very WWE.

[@alexandrenamor8463]

I swear it's just another example of why Triple H should rule the company after Vince. Everything went worse for her once he was gone. It must be so frustrating to be so pationate but forgotten by bad WWE creatives. Glad she's doing great now.

[@YousefTube]

No more Triple H you live in the Nick Khan era who wants to sell WWE to NBC Universal and getting it out of professional wrestling and out of the carnival

[@slayyy9758]

i’m so happy he’s running the company now!

[@quwandathornton]

The fact you can tell she truly loved her job by how well she put all of her energy into the ring, her entrances, her persona, taunts, and characteristics. She was WELL animated because she wanted to cater to children more than men, just like Bayley did. I loved that about them. I'm sad I won't get to see her geeky side anymore, you can tell she was heavily influenced by Anime/Gaming/Comics etc. and to see a black girl doing something other than the baddie stereotype, and something more DARKER and Metal? A breath of fresh air. They should have had her with Naomi, Asuka, and Banks.

[@WhatwouldRoddyPiperdo]

Embers one of those people I've kept an eye on even though I don't watch the actual product I've settled for still liking everything about wrestling apart from actually watching modern wrestling so got to know the person on up up down down & other things. Wish her the best in whatever she does look forward to this interview will be right in it when it drops, her gimmick caught my attention a lapsed fan who doesn't even watch haha

[@schneideriwnl]

Imagine you give everything for the Company you work for and they do you dirty like this. I actually feel sorry for Athena. She deserved way more cause she is by far one of the most talented Womens Wrestlers out there. I hope to see her in RoH or in AEW and see her in Owen Hart Womens Tournament.

[@lracseroom8286]

Imagine they offer you a job teaching because you are aging, injury prone, out of shape and are no good on the mic and your response is to take your ball, go home and then back talk them because you're an entitled child in an adult's body? Keep simping her though.

[@budgiecat2885]

@@lracseroom8286 Youre an obese narcissist incel trying to tell someone who has empathy that he is a simp. Thats sad dude. Try to lose some weight.

[@schneideriwnl]

@@BrokenEnglis i've never said that but okay

[@immortalnightbody]

This is why you don't work so hard for ANY company. Meritocracy isn't real. All for-profit businesses operate like this.

[@YousefTube]

It's the same ones

[@Prophet6000]

Man I really hope she finds happiness. She did put the work in.

[@whatseatontim918]

I'm still PO'd about her release; she was my absolute favorite on NXT & the main roster. She deserved so much better; should have been Raw & Smackdown women's champion at least 5 times each and NXT Women's Champion 5 times as well or even more than that! I always enjoyed seeing her compete; always was so excited when her music hit. Wish I had seen her wrestle live in person but no thanks to WWE, that won't happen now. Thanks for entertaining me all those years; much love! 🙏❤ #EmberMoon

[@andykassie9171]

She's an awesome, beautiful, amazing, dedicated and hard working superstar. They did her wrong and treated her unfair.

[@intelligentfool09]

She’s a phenomenal talent! It’s a shame how that places literally destroyed a lifelong passion and turned it literally into a prop!

[@aperson5215]

Yeah Admittedly when Shotzi debuted I was like Wait Wasn't it Ember and Shotzi

[@monkeytime9851]

I wish WWE would let more of the talent just do their thing. Ember is a MUCH better talent than they ever let her show.

[@TITO1995100]

not gonna happen they want to be the driver of the talent and control them so it aint happening

[@WillReacts]

I was in the crowd at Summerslam 2019 and I knew in that moment she was dead in the water. It was dead silent, if not for "This match sucks" "you both suck" and "this is boring", and Vince was NOT going to make Bayley eat the shit on that between the 2 of them

[@kyarcher2453]

She should of been at the top of the woman's division wwe didn't know what to do with her

[@ThrashAD720]

If her injury didn't happen in 2019 she would for sure gotten a chance in 2020.

[@lracseroom8286]

LoL. Simp.

[@cliffordjackson3]

@@ThrashAD720 FACTS dude.

[@davecrawley4634]

He is so good at letting the guest talk whilst clearly listening and prompting when needed.

[@your_virtuoso]

Top talent. They messed up a good thing Dope Charizard too

[@RemnantSRT440]

Can't wait for her to go All Elite!

[@quintinlee9224]

Crazy how WWE don't know what's going on in their company that's a problem Vince need to wake up Ember Moon is to damn good to be a coach good for her for standing up for herself because so many in WWE won't they stay complacent collecting a check

[@RoySkilletz]

With what Ember Moon has said, why do wrestlers continue to go to WWE? We always hear horror stories that come out after a wrestler has been released. She was a major on the indie scene before WWE; I always thought she would win multiple championships and challenge Charlotte Flair, Sasha Banks, Becky Lynch for the top spot, and she never did. I genuinely want her to be happy in her next endeavor.

[@TerrelLism]

💰💰💰💸

[@kooleeylee3378]

She is so talented I don’t know why they never pushed her.. she is better than most talent on the roster now! But Vince never liked her personal I think

[@jdlee4358]

Ember moon is someone that would've been perfect for Edge's faction.

[@sassou8584]

That faction is rotten. The only thing she needs is a manager because she's a little bit of an awkward promo.

[@lracseroom8286]

too budy overdoing it on the free catering for that.

[@lracseroom8286]

@@sassou8584 :little bit" LoL. Understatement of the year.

[@itssachinsharmavlog2754]

Definitely bro

[@quwandathornton]

OMFG YOUR SO RIGHT T____T

[@typlanet814]

when she cry i cry.

[@kevinchapman4327]

She never got the push she deserved. She's a rather talented individual. Other promotions will see that. Unlike wwe who loves letting legit talent slip through their hands like sand.

[@behanthescene]

What fucking push would that be? She was NXT women's champion. Got called up. Got injured. Went back to NXT. Won a different championship. And she just said she suggested to do a losing streak.

[@tess1602]

Omg. Wwe doesn't have respect for people who have talent. Ember is right all they care about is the money.

[@Gauchesuede123]

I still remembered when she's feuding with Sonya Deville. Not because she insulted her family, not because she insulted her honor, not because she ruined her life... But because of a goddamn Nintendo Switch. A GODDAMN Nintendo Switch. Wow.

[@kennythetrend3688]

Just hearing about this is making me physically upset. Glad I support Independent Wrestling cause I want people like her to have sustainable jobs in this business.

[@charlesbuckley5615]

Or maybe she can develop a better character and learn how to cut promos

[@arthure.andrews8978]

Thank u for this interview

[@funnyboi4132]

“Come help out the next generation” SHE IS THE NEXT GENERATION!!!!

[@cliffordjackson3]

FACTS dude it’s crazy how the wwe wanted ember to train the next generation while she is the NEXT GENERATION ITS MAKES NO SENSE.

[@davidstevens9245]

Them last 4 minutes pretty much sums up how I have been feeling about wrestling for a long time I just didn't know how to put it into words Ive been trying to tell wwe KZbin videos this but you've just helped me Amber put it in the best way possible so I thank you for that

[@michaelsadowski2360]

Hey Ember Moon! You were fantastic! You are one of the people they dropped the ball on. There are so many awful characters in wwe now and awful workers. Always enjoyed your matches and loved your character. You couldn’t have done it any better and shame on them for not seeing what they had in you. I wish you all the best and hope to see you in the ring again soon.

[@johntrevorcruz2071]

Damn I miss Ember Moon!! 😔💖🌙

[@bobcatlewis8452]

That interview was sad as hell. You can hear it in her voice

[@roberthanson6156]

Wow she looks so good without the heavy eyeliner on

[@royshaheer]

Crazy how she didn't got much of the showcase in WWE's main roster....

[@AV-tq5hq]

Im happy she got this off her chest. Read an excerpt of Booker Ts comments on this~ and he was 100% wrong for his criticism. I look forward to see her reaching her full potential as a marquee superstar

[@6Wheelz]

That face change at the beginning is hilarious

[@MilkmanC]

I'm sorry but she was SO good in NXT. AEW will be happy to have her lol

[@cliffordjackson3]

Or impact wrestling.

[@MilkmanC]

@@cliffordjackson3 that would be a pretty big deal for impact. I’d trade soho for Athena any day.

[@cliffordjackson3]

@@MilkmanC FACTS me too ruby’s a decent wrestler but she just feels very slow in the ring in my opinion.

[@ITSHIM1294]

Oh yeah, AEW. Where’s Ruby Riott anyway ?

[@thestarseeker8196]

I’ve been in a situation or two like this. It messes with your head, it’s when people can’t even - WON’T even - give you a straight answer as to why they’re stepping on you. Really messes with your head….

[@Brendan0428]

We should do a sign #signembermoon on every AEW account

[@EddieRios203]

I agree!!!

[@johngotti489]

no. you shouldn't.

[@lracseroom8286]

how about #SimpBrigade ?

[@joshx022]

I didn't realize she was such a well spoken, mature and smart talent. Wow. Vince really dropped the ball. WWE going public did a huge disservice to the real ones and the real invested fans.

[@lracseroom8286]

"mature" made me laugh out loud. She comes off like a short-sighted, tempestuous, bratty, entitled, selfish teenager in this interview.

[@lracseroom8286]

"woman in her mid 30's who has pokemon dolls" 100% springs to mind when I think "mature".

[@joshx022]

And you're so mature your comments can't be kept up due to KZbin terms. I'll just consider the source of the comment.

[@kingofdreamz2156]

After listening to this and a lot of other new talent it seems like HHH babies his NXT talent and let them get too comfortable. The reason Austin and the rock, etc. Were so great is because they fought for the top spot.

[@dkmenace1990]

Triple H always inflated their egos. We see this always with the Four Horsewomen.

[@redre1ated]

She fine and seemingly mad chill.

[@kabztunes]

good jon CVV for letting her just speak. best interviewer in the game

[@420Yako]

She's such a gorgeous talented woman. Hope all is well

[@jjayp1]

She seems like a genuinely nice person

[@TheWrestlinEra]

She spoke FACTS

[@danielbaronne753]

and now Athena is the best champion on tv

[@sundiata63]

I fucking love Ember Moon. She is the reason I started watching NXT.

[@xavier6457]

I've always had the most respect for ember moon. I always thought when she was given the chance she was really entertaining.

[@katricebryson6985]

It also shows that Hunter was the main person in NXT and that’s what kept that show running

[@seanbond6454]

Wow…watching this hurt me 😔

[@SwipeGameplay]

Absolutely crazy they released her. She had a great look. A wonderful finisher, she had a good match in nxt with asuka. Cool name. She had so mucn going and yet wwe don't know what to do with her? Absolutely ridiculous

[@hassanabdille1920]

I just remembered The Eclipse Finisher

[@OsOl0K0_ttv]

Dude she's so good in that ring. I haven't watched WWE in awhile but I remember her being my favorite female wrestler when she was in NXT.

[@seanmchutchison4679]

Ember and shotzi coulda been top stars of the womens tag division. Both had star power, both looked unique and had the daredevil antics of old school wwf tag teams. They coulda been hot, such a missed opportunity. Best of luck Athena ❤️

[@kylestrachan1693]

Ember is a amazing man great talk

[@LeglessWonder]

She is one of the greatest examples of WWE not using someone properly. And yea, like she said, splitting her and Shotzi up was major dumb. Hopefully she finds happiness now

[@lracseroom8286]

was she just expecting Shotzi to be in a waiting position while she was recuperating? from her umpteenth injury that year? Especially when Shotzi was more over than her? Yeah, she was, because she's a selfish, entitled c*nt apparently.

[@chrisshuttonn1158]

She wasn't even that great

[@tw475]

victim of a change in management. I feel bad for her. hope she keeps doing well.

[@KobashifanSam]

The other problem was the injuries she suffered during all her pushes. But the splitting of her and shotzi was dumb for sure.

[@senonimoustv2497]

@@tw475 Yhh for sure.

[@joevollman]

At Wrestlecon in Dallas right before WMania...she talked to my daughter on the phone about my daughter's rainbow colored hair. My daughter got choked up in tears. Ember went above and beyond to do that. A REAL human being through and through as seen in this video. My daughter and l love her!💜

[@dumbaccount]

You're daughter sounds like a dumbass for dying her hair like that and you're a dumbass for allowing your daughter to do that

[@kijo.]

What a beutiful thing to hear ❤ god bless u all.

[@bjenkins6450]

Nice story! And I was there also!!

[@zacktyler2810]

@joev How exciting.

[@zacktyler2810]

@@bjenkins6450 IKR 💯

[@jetman80pops]

Ember summed up WWE "creative" pretty well. This is what happens when you fill creative with idiots who don't know wrestling. They'll screw over good talent who knows how to go in the ring. Yet they'll give storylines and pushes to someone like idk Omos who is horrible in the ring and horrible on promo.

[@tayan219]

This is all on Vince McMahon not the individuals of creative team

[@rcdotson4433]

@@tayan219 if they aren't standing up for themselves...it's them too

[@tayan219]

@@rcdotson4433 lol they dont make the decisions

[@_Reegs]

@@rcdotson4433 yea iight go head n try to stand up to Vince u gettin fired bro🤦🏾‍♂️😭😭

[@AMaidenlessRunt]

@@rcdotson4433 none of the writers is telling vince no the few that have got fired even if vince approve something it doesn't stop him from changing shit at the last minute. He needs to retire already old man lost it a long time ago.

[@MrDrdiaz81084]

My heart really breaks for her. She put in work and got let go because Vince couldn't find out how to use her properly. It's too easy to get her over. She's awesome.

[@charlesbuckley5615]

She can't cut promos and she is bland oh you forgot to mention that

[@joseph906]

Couldn't cut promos, like Reigns?

[@rleonardgreen78]

@@joseph906 Reigns is s better promo than Athena is.

[@joseph906]

@@rleonardgreen78 you missed the point. Reigns is doing better now, because they invested so much in him. He was bad at first.

[@nickkozinski4519]

@@joseph906 reigns got some of the badass mic skills now fuck u mean lol

[@tmage23]

"You can be a coach" Imagine hearing that at 33 years old when some of your peers are wrestling into their 40s and 50s

[@chriss790]

Most women aren't. But that said, it is naturally ridiculous. Feels like it's something an old man booker would say once he sees a chick get into the age when he thinks she's supposed to be raising kids rather than wrestling on TV.

[@wingedhussar1453]

It's called we have nothing for u at the time

[@anthonykaruri6430]

@BigGreen yes, she's not But thing is, if you're a good tag person, in a tag team, and breaks up said tag team, put your partner in another tag team with someone else, and you're told to be a coach, then your fans have the right to be angry No one wants her headlining the division, people want to see her used to the best of her capabilities. Huge difference

[@80sToyBoy]

her a coach and Adam Cole a manager.

[@NateNizzle]

@BigGreen bingo!

[@CVVCLIPS]

This is a clip from our full interview that you can listen to on my podcast "INSIGHT with Chris Van Vliet" and watch on my main channel here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gqTHnIekZqpnZpI

[@mgtwrestling123]

it sounds she really did not have a good experience on her way out of the company

[@mgtwrestling123]

@MR - Feamoo can I ask u a non wrestling related question?

[@f.4301]

Ember Moon should gimmick change, an 80’s shock rock look would be cool. She resembles Ronnie James Dio. She could def recreate her herself. Wild hair and edgy clothes. That’s money. $$ I got ideas all day. The rest aren’t free tho :) Get at me. :D

[@edwardperez968]

Awesome interview. WWE really dropped the ball with Ember Moon. She's way too talented to just be a coach.

[@seventyseven7815]

She is truly one of the best women's wrestlers in the business today. I can't believe that WWE didn't have her against Charlotte or Becky. What a waste.

[@Excremental_Discharge]

Ember has hands-down one of the sickest looking finishers going today

[@theicewhiteking6290]

Bro you think that would have mattered in am interview with bayley she said they were supposed to have a barn burner of a match at summerslam 2019 until management changed the script and how the match was going to be played wwe management have there heads so far up their ass they don't know what they are doing at all I mean look how they treated kiari and auska two of the best in the world

[@seventyseven7815]

@@theicewhiteking6290 I agree, Asuka, Ember Moon, and Shana Bazler are in my opinion the only top girls I'd want to see forever. Hopefully she'll stay in the business and not let this incident turn her away from wrestling.

[@Leftrightandthetruth]

wwe is good but not great

[@KoolKeithProductions]

@@seventyseven7815 Ember can't cut a promo tho. In Vince's eyes that's the kiss of death