ATIF (DRAGUNOV) vs Hammad (BRYAN) - GRAND FINAL - Tekken 8 HAVOC 4 DOJO 96+

[@ColonCommander]

Ok, Atiff is indeed built different and seeming like only one man can stop him

[@Justlookingaround19]

His name is Harada by nerfing Dragunov 😂

[@bilalbasit]

@@Justlookingaround19In FV major most Koreans played Draganov. In Evo Japanese and Korean top players played Draganov. You folks used to say that about Akouma too. And yet there is French top player who actually named himself Superakouma. You keep thinking what you thinking.

[@unecessaryupdates6016]

Tekken 8 is simply built for Atif's playstyle. The way his mind works is perfectly in tune with this game. If he hasn't been sparring a lot with Arslan, he'd be rolling over him as well.

[@bilalbasit]

Arslan is the reason Atif plays so well.

[@Not.Today.Son.]

Tekken 8 is simply built for Dragunov *

[@royalgaming7973]

@@Not.Today.Son. no wait for new characters game will beh change soon

[@vapersmith7859]

Its amazing how much everyone is rooting for the Bryan granted Dragunov WAS a supervillain in the beta so there is some background to it.

[@SD-mi2vc]

Nope its cuz bryan is actually a hard character to use unlike who drag is broken and braindead to use.

[@Hattorii009]

Tekken 8 Dragunov Edition.

[@bilalbasit]

Well Arslan won Evo with Nina Against Draganov.

[@tyber124]

@@bilalbasit Nina is in territory of Dragunov broken bs or either just behind him. Both Arslan and Atif are godlike but these characters need to be heavly bonked with nerf hammer.

[@ShoaibAli-oh2hh]

@@tyber124 What is Broken with Dragunov in your own words? How can it be fixed without killing the character again?

[@tyber124]

@@ShoaibAli-oh2hh B4 extensions are absolutely ridiculous. But I don't want to him being nerfed into oblivion and I understand the online making ducking harder due lag so I say make high uber lineral. Because I got several times clipped by it when i ss b4 and with the fact that this is heat engager and full launcher is absolutely ridiculous. It should be when you are properly timed sidestep b4 his your beach. Qcf 4 is still way too good. Balance behind this was sway foward requirement but it's still too easy to abuse. And it makes okizame game completely free. Nerf range little bit and take away ground hitting prop like with feng shoulder combos in T7. After this nerfa let the community to adapt and see if he would need more. Because now he got proper magic four string with grab into 60 dmg, df1,4 still has incredible delay and is a launcher but yeah why use that when you can just spam two mentioned options.

[@danielsacilotto3196]

Atif and Arslan are on a tier of their own. They make everyone else seem helpless.

[@tonystark559]

Indeed their defence and offence is on another level

[@SD-mi2vc]

​@@tonystark559no the characters they use are broken. It requires no skill

[@Daruudes]

@@SD-mi2vc Kkokkoma, JDCR, Knee, Ulsan, Mulgold, JeonDDing, Nobi, AK, AO etc. all use broken characters. Why can't they beat them?

[@SD-mi2vc]

@@Daruudes wait until drag gets nerfed

[@Daruudes]

@@SD-mi2vc and nina?

[@giftofnothing]

Arslan is the best in the world when the pressure is at its highest. Atif is more dominant. Atif would show up to a random local tournament and beat everyone in the building with no mercy.

[@PSYCHODOOD]

Atif playing like he is on a speedrun!!!

[@makhdoom65]

Great bryan

[@Gerard511]

Should have activated heat

[@LoulogioMamani]

The best Bryan in the world 😱

[@Perko_VY]

Interesting that Hammad doesnt seem to go for Bryan's taunt.

[@kahusay5379]

Dragunov before nobi, jdcr...dragunov now is Atif everyone else is meh. Didn't expect to see him dominate now as he was known as akuma player before..

[@SalmanMalik-eo8uo]

He played almost every character in Tekken 7

[@wonderwalls3565]

Atif is on a diff level than all of the others and Arsalan is on a diff level than Atif.

[@bilalbasit]

Amateur Commentators keep saying “look at that”. Good job. We are looking at that 😂

[@kamzi1528]

Bryan too slow for this game at high rank against mashers. And most of his tools require qcb/f. Bryan has to work 3-4x harder then these mash characters. If bryan players put the same amount of work into dragunov,jinn, gay female characters they would be winning most matches. Unfortunately tekken 8 favours cheap easy players and punishes people who think.start mashing with these cheap characters that put yur constantly into negative frames and then into 50/50, your easily getting wins all day long. Brain dead playstyle

[@TV-tb4hl]

아놔 정말 파키스탄이 날뛰냐? 한국이 더 분발하자.

[@Ali-f9h7r]

It's not about hardwork alone

[@saidadame5888]

Cheap character, and cheap way to use it. So broken that makes this game freaking stupid at times. Sick Bryan btw.

[@AllThingsAction]

Atif would no doubt still be a top player if he played another character, but yes, Dragunov was given ridiculous tools he did NOT need to be effective in this iteration. A lot of players overlooks the fact that his flowchart is absurdly safe and they took away your avenues of defending against it by giving him his new ws string. Add heat and rage arts that activately wholly too quickly (so much so that the counters to them don't even work if used before they are activated) and you have a recipe for one of the cheapest iterations of a character in Tekken history. Still, the overall balance of the characters across the board is great, save a couple of characters. *cough* Steve *Cough*

[@tonystark559]

Indeed since the drag buff he utilised drag pretty well.

[@h4b3e1n9b0Rn]

@@AllThingsAction since im a drag main and know the character in and out, therefore reading many missinformation on the daily i may ask whats his new ws move is? bec i think u got sth wrong, he got no new ws move, he got a new forward crouch move, which is a crucial difference of around 5-6f and the other question is what his absurdly safe flowchart is? my wild guess is your thinking his snk transitions are safe, which they are not, they are alw interruptible

[@AllThingsAction]

@@h4b3e1n9b0RnYes the ws part was a mistake on my part. The point I was making still remains, it is an addition to his flowchart that was not needed. A flowchart depends on the game you are playing, but you may consider it something like a way for a character to use their "top 10" moves. The most effective, but generic approach to a character's offense. Dragunov has maintained one of the strongest flowcharts throughout his history. Before I elaborate, how long have you been playing dragunov, because it'll determine how much detail my explanation of the issues I have with the inclusion of this new move needs to be.

[@AllThingsAction]

@@h4b3e1n9b0Rn I've been playing tekken since the 3rd iteration, though I did not play 4 very much. I'm very well versed on this subject despite my earlier mistake.