Attack Choppers feel DIRTY Now... - Both Perspectives - BF2042

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Marzipan Dan

Marzipan Dan

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@Cabal-ms3kb
@Cabal-ms3kb Жыл бұрын
Never fly sober. GGs.
@Ty-nk4vk
@Ty-nk4vk Жыл бұрын
Good videos as always, well edited and the double perspectives was an an awesome touch 👏 im a decent pilot, but finding a good gunner in my squads has been rough.. they just use it as transportation lol. Great shootin and flying, boys
@marzipandan767
@marzipandan767 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment! I'm glad that you enjoyed it! I absolutely love using the gunner seat of the attack choppers, I think it is so rare to get on them and they can do so much work. I liked it even before the buff xD Though I will say, nothing is worse than having a friendly on the second seat who is doing nothing.
@deemon710
@deemon710 Жыл бұрын
I play atk heli too and I agree these buffs are ridiculous. I wasn't making any friends before but now I'm downright despised. 😊
@marzipandan767
@marzipandan767 Жыл бұрын
I feel like before the buffs, I would usually have to strafe a vehicle twice to get the kill. Now it's pretty much a guaranteed one strafe job with how forgiving the rockets are and how powerful having two TOWs which you can fire concurrently. I say enjoy it while it lasts XD
@Bigboy_smooth
@Bigboy_smooth 11 ай бұрын
Every Battlefield game Dice makes the attack choppers way to powerful,I’ve seen good players completely shut down lobbies before but this is completely ridiculous
@marzipandan767
@marzipandan767 11 ай бұрын
They are counterable, but they are very strong right now. A good Lis player can shut down aircraft, or players who are good in the wildcat with the main guns. As soon as you try to use the wildcats AA missiles against an approaching attack chopper, you have lost. It also takes quite a bit of practice to be able to fight other aircraft with the attack choppers.
@abendigopeck6596
@abendigopeck6596 Жыл бұрын
Your content is excellent. . You should be providing more if you have the time
@marzipandan767
@marzipandan767 Жыл бұрын
Haha xD I'm glad you like the content so much to say so. I'll be 100 percent transparent with you, I'm stretching my time to make content as far as I can. I want to make content that is worthwhile and isn't just what everyone else is doing, and that takes time. :D
@dauvyde4665
@dauvyde4665 Жыл бұрын
algorithm comment :)
@Mario-aquino
@Mario-aquino Жыл бұрын
How do you play on the map in the beginning of the video? Which mode is that?
@Cabal-ms3kb
@Cabal-ms3kb Жыл бұрын
Exodus Conquest. The 64 player conquest mode.
@kadj79
@kadj79 Жыл бұрын
meh, still easy to take out with Lis for me. Glad they change the gunner camera though.
@marzipandan767
@marzipandan767 Жыл бұрын
I respect the one guy who was trying to Lissile us in this game over the many who were just trying the stingers. It's definitely much more effective. Just a heads up, the attack choppers are much more maneuverable than before, so when you are making your approach with a Lissile, you'll need to get used to their new movement.
@kadj79
@kadj79 Жыл бұрын
@@marzipandan767 yeh you need to be sneaky about it. I always go from a rear angle. And if the first Lissile hit, you can tell the pilot is a bit panicked most of the time, and it s almost a sure hit for the second missile. with over 1000 vehicles destroyed with the G 84, practice makes it perfect. Little birds are still the hardest target.
@damienmcdonald7610
@damienmcdonald7610 Жыл бұрын
@@kadj79 for me the hardest is jets because they usually pull up from the strafe before I hit or fly over too fast plus I don't target them too much since I never come across jet pilots good enough to kill anything which I don't get because they're really not that hard to use lol
@kadj79
@kadj79 Жыл бұрын
@@damienmcdonald7610 jets are most of my air vehicles kills to be honest, you just have to oberseve their patern when attachig the ground and try to get them from the front. They pay to much attention to ground target and dont see the missiles coming
@damienmcdonald7610
@damienmcdonald7610 Жыл бұрын
@@kadj79 yeah it's not a case of them dodging on purpose, jets have a fairly narrow fov and no free look in this game I just suck at timing for them lol, fully a skill issue but luckily it's really the only skill issue I have in the game and I almost never come across good jet pilots
@favclassisspy9478
@favclassisspy9478 Жыл бұрын
I'm not qualified to talk about balance but watching gameplay like this highlights to me how powerful health/armour regen and infinite ammo are. You had so much sustain while harassing the enemy team in their half of the map.
@marzipandan767
@marzipandan767 Жыл бұрын
That's just choppers in general. Honestly, I think it would benefit the game if they got rid of the repair function on choppers so that you had to land them in order to make the repairs. I definitely think we need to see how this plays out in more situations before we make any updates. Hopefully, the engineer updates coming in season 6 will dd some more AA options for infantry. I'm still hoping for a SRAW...
@DigiKiller
@DigiKiller Жыл бұрын
I think the repair on board is only fair since in real life, these choppers wouldn't need to leave home and still hit targets across the map, so look on range, especially for locking on to vehicles is REALLY short.
@damienmcdonald7610
@damienmcdonald7610 Жыл бұрын
@@marzipandan767 yeah that was something interesting in hardcore the other week because you did need to land a stealth to repair so you had to choose between repairs or play as support to heal yourself I ended up mostly using attacks or nightbirds
@spas6128
@spas6128 Жыл бұрын
This could be countered, but knowing the average mindset of current players this will be a total shitfest when there's proper chopper pilots/gunners on servers. Not counting the engineer changes will make a difference either. I'm tired of banging my head up against the wall, so back to BF1 i guess.
@marzipandan767
@marzipandan767 Жыл бұрын
I'm going to get used to the new RPG velocity in order to be able to snipe them more consistently. If that doesn't work out, I'll bust out Lis again :) If that doesn't work, then I've also got the Wildcat :)
@protonjones54
@protonjones54 Жыл бұрын
You're insane if you think the AH was good before patch
@marzipandan767
@marzipandan767 Жыл бұрын
Then I am absolutely loopy, completely mad. I can agree it isn't the best chopper. The Nightbird absolutely has that spot. But was definitely the second best. The stealth is pretty bad in my opinion. I know some people will lose their mind when I say that, but I think they are very easy to kill.
@Cabal-ms3kb
@Cabal-ms3kb Жыл бұрын
It was if you knew what you were doing.
@protonjones54
@protonjones54 Жыл бұрын
@@marzipandan767 stealth and tac are both easy to kill pre patch
@timelessgamer_UK
@timelessgamer_UK Жыл бұрын
Amen to that -- I saw the light & never went back.@@Cabal-ms3kb
@bakedmomo5693
@bakedmomo5693 Жыл бұрын
went overboard? they both slowly AND quickly buffed air vehicles while nerfing both infantry+ground vehicles vs air vehicles they nerfed Irish aps THRICE in less than 1 month because air vehicles can't FARM infantry anymore when aps is deployed, they NERFED ground FLAK and they found it still wasn't enough that they outright REMOVED IT FROM THE GAME AND STILL, dice devs' hard-on for air vehicles is still not done that seeing this recent patch and see it's not enough i will bet my non-buggy BF1 experience on Day1 memories that they'll NEVER put back the flak in the game again is this a rant? yes. was it correct, objective and warranted? ABSOLUTELY.
@Goldendroid
@Goldendroid Жыл бұрын
The flak was reintroduced by the way. They removed it because it was causing awful situations in breakthrough where people would camp with the vehicle at the max range and use the flak bursts as an airburst cannon which just killed everyone.
@bakedmomo5693
@bakedmomo5693 Жыл бұрын
@@Goldendroid i do like the change they did this most recent patch against infantry because of this abuse. i didnt even know people did that until it was temporarily removed BUT the nerf that halved the flak range from 400 to 200m and nerfed damage even before the temporary removal is just something DEPLORABLE and very in-line with the dev's hard-on for the air vehicles and CONSTANTLY nerfing everything that ISN'T an air vehicle
@Goldendroid
@Goldendroid Жыл бұрын
@@bakedmomo5693 that’s just untrue. The damage is still the same, it’s just the apache and hokum have more armour.
@damienmcdonald7610
@damienmcdonald7610 Жыл бұрын
Flak is back... Also Irish sentinels never stopped things like nightbird and stealth mgs. I play about 50/50 infantry and vehicles and never struggle to do well as either
@damienmcdonald7610
@damienmcdonald7610 Жыл бұрын
@@Goldendroid yeah and they'd usually do that with 2 sentinels hidden near to protect it and the only thing that could stop it was a nightbird or stealth with mgs on a stealthy flank
@markcroxford4435
@markcroxford4435 Жыл бұрын
Great video and love the gameplay, but if this is representative of what’s coming Dice have made a huge mistake. I can only hope our Lis and other AA players will blow these things off the map the second they appear. That’s not a reflection on you guys, amazing gameplay - you just play with what you’re given. Not going to lie - I may even start TOR spawn camping these things out the sky.
@Bugfield2042
@Bugfield2042 Жыл бұрын
You are completely wrong. The enemy team doesnt even put up a fight except this one guy with his stinger. The attack helicopter is still shut down effectively as sopn as 2 pöayers start using Lis. Even if they dont hit the heli, as long as its busy with dodging the Lissiles it wont do much else. And if the entire lobby doesnt fight back this is exactly what happens. It's not "what Dice is planning to do". Also, do you really think that more vehicles will make it easier to farm infantry? If there were 2 or 3 helis and 2 jets per team they also wouldnt have been able to fly around that freely.
@markcroxford4435
@markcroxford4435 Жыл бұрын
@@Bugfield2042…I think we agree with each other?? I didn’t say Dice was planning on this, I said if this is representative of what happens. If people get wasted left right and centre they’ll quit the game. Could be it’s not and we’ve got nothing to worry about. For my part, I’m going to be one of those two Lis players you speak of and make sure it doesn’t happen in my rounds. Not seeing where we disagree here, other than I think the Attack Chopper now carries too much firepower and perhaps if I’m reading you correctly, you don’t? If so fine - difference of opinion, all good 👍
@michaelpeake158
@michaelpeake158 Жыл бұрын
Great game play and good communication. Many players are way too aggressive with helicopters and over-extend - sticking around too long instead of making passes from different directions. Seems like this update is only going to encourage them.
@marzipandan767
@marzipandan767 Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, good pilots definitely know when to push, pull and hide. If you are just flying high, flaring and not moving to try to recover them, then you are a stinger users dream! Thanks for the support Michael!
@timelessgamer_UK
@timelessgamer_UK Жыл бұрын
Amazing vid guys, I love this dual view format. Unfortunately you've confirmed what I've been fearing the past few nights, Dice went too far. I can't imagine gamers will do other than I'm about to in my matches, which is Lis up and go straight for them the moment they appear. I'm a huge supporter of the game but helicopter power has always been a sore spot, and I think this risks blowing the whole issue up again. For my part, Attack Choppers are now on the 'death on sight' list, I'm going straight for them with everything I've got. I'll relax if it turns out it's not that bad after all, but for now -- every match will be Lis and I'll be waiting >:)
@mrsheep2812
@mrsheep2812 Жыл бұрын
Same. Burn on sight.
@arthurf7746
@arthurf7746 Жыл бұрын
Facts. This was a fun watch, but actually having strong helis is so annoying. I'm with you as Lis
@jzryc
@jzryc Жыл бұрын
90% of the lis & stinger users that annoy me with rockets, end up dying. It’s like telling me to go kill you. I know the death makes you mad & your reaction is to shoot at me again. Just straightup braindead. Why you’re not hop in a heli for yourself & engage an a 1v1? Let me guess, you realise how difficult it can get to avoid shots , not crashing into anything & aim yourself at the same time. It’s actually fun to aim for yourself you should try it.
@markcroxford4435
@markcroxford4435 Жыл бұрын
@@jzrycyou might want to check that guy’s page before you suggest he isn’t capable of absolutely obliterating anyone / anything he wants in any chopper he chooses. You’re making yourself look pretty silly here. Also, it’s not like Helis are on permanent reserve and you can just jump in one whenever you like to go on a revenge quest. Seriously do you even understand this game? Also the Lis missile - again, maybe take a look at his page… I don’t think you’ve got a lot to say. Only an idiot would fire a Lis Missile head on in full view of a heli. Seriously you should do a little homework before you throw out attacks at people. I would suggest that a lot of folk are worried about the changes to the Attack Choppers precisely because they do understand what they’re capable of, and the impact it could have on the game. This video proves what happens when you don’t down an Attack Chopper ASAP and the crew are competent. Reflect on that or don’t - but you might want to delete your post as, like I said, it makes you look a bit… “silly”.
@jzryc
@jzryc Жыл бұрын
@@markcroxford4435 yeah, no. you’re right he particularly was not meant (maybe not clear enough but english is not my first language idk) in the first place with my rent, but many other’s in the comment section. Btw not beeing able to relate to the feeling of revenge in bf, never played a single round. That feeling is for me going to wingsuit c5 this camping wildcat/railgun tank & tbagging them till time hit 0. plus I’m playing on console, I have tbh no idea what’s better usable on pc whatsoever I stand on my words. Many many people hating something for its pure existence & want dying. I would say many players got ptsd cause of Shanghai lol. But the same ones saying how much broken something is, are the same ones trying to kill it at first & got wrecked cause of it. Every rocket you’re firing at a heli is a big „fuck you“ + location drop for the pilot. Plus the decent chunk it take from you’re hp with the 100% hit even if it miss you it’s still hitting & all that without needing to keep the lock on the chopper. Way to rewarding for doing nothing imo.
@arthurf7746
@arthurf7746 Жыл бұрын
Great vid as always. Love the homage to LevelCap/Matimio style double vision. Always look forward to your vids
@marzipandan767
@marzipandan767 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for saying! I'm glad that you enjoyed it! Happy to have your support Arthur!
@-Kineticks-
@-Kineticks- Жыл бұрын
Good video. I played with squad mates last night and i confirmed that attack heli is OP. Too strong and it unbalanced the game.
@marzipandan767
@marzipandan767 Жыл бұрын
A good pilot and gunner combo can completely shut down an entire team's armour. It's too strong. We'll see what DICE does to resolve this.
@Goldendroid
@Goldendroid Жыл бұрын
I don’t think the apache was that good before. Sure, a skilled pilot could do some work, but the lack of mobility and squishiness meant you were pretty much screwed if you came up in the sights of a wildcat or other AA. Secondly, if there was an equally good pilot in the nightbird/stealth as cabal was in that apache, I think that you’d have a different game going on. They would know to stay above you and the miniguns/MG just shreds other aircraft and requires less lead time than the missiles, obviously. Not to mention the agility presented by the nightbird. Against ground targets, it’s now actually such a threat people will want to take it out. Previously, if the pilot wasn’t that good, it’s almost better to let them live so that they can’t spawn in something like a nightbird or stealth to farm infantry. The fact that the attack choppers are now actually a huge threat means that AA have to prioritise them. Finally, they added back a lot of AA options to the game, also known as the 20mm Flak cannon for transport vehicles. Those are really mobile and combined with a good wildcat can keep the skies clean. Overall, the new apache isn’t broken, imo. It’s just powerful and a real threat to the entire team. It should inspire the same sense of urgency as the other choppers, compared to before where you think “oh I’m glad it’s not a nightbird sweat” Edit: If even ONE person on the team decided to use a SOFLAM against you, that would have already made such a difference to, for example, when cabal was hiding below radar to avoid the jet missiles. If you were designated, vehicle missiles would go through as would every recoilless and RPG that can one shot you.
@damienmcdonald7610
@damienmcdonald7610 Жыл бұрын
With you on the SOFLAM, I used the Apache/hokum a lot before and yeah dogfighting is easier in a nightbird or stealth but once you get good at it the thing was already very good at killing enemy helis as long as they didn't get the drop on you because you couldn't turn around fast enough
@marzipandan767
@marzipandan767 Жыл бұрын
I'd been doing work with it before the patch. I would always bust it out on the last point in Control where everyone would have vehicles in order to quickly cull the numbers. There are ways when you are chopper dogfighting to get them to stop flying above you. If you fly directly under them, they have to tilt to meet you and in doing so will significantly drop altitude. I will agree in this game we did not have anyone in the air that could match us, but I think you can get good with the 127mm an begin consistently killing even nightbirds with it. I would say that if you have a good gunner Stealths and Nightbirds are going to have a hard time if they need to get up close in order to kill with their miniguns. We'll see what happens :) Thanks for commenting. It's good to get multiple perspectives on these issues!
@cptKerala
@cptKerala Жыл бұрын
Hello Dan, your 2042 content is seriously second to none. Do you plan on making an Attack Heli or MBT driver guide similar to the wildcat/gunner guides you have made? You have a really solid grasp of the games mechanics so your insight would be appreciated.
@marzipandan767
@marzipandan767 Жыл бұрын
Oh... I don't know... we'll see 😏
@hoLMZ.
@hoLMZ. Жыл бұрын
Been binging your videos for the last few hours now after downloading the game on Xbox Gamepass. I cant help but think you're from the north-east of England? I thought I recognised your accent.
@marzipandan767
@marzipandan767 Жыл бұрын
You nailed it. I'm from not so sunny Sunderland!
@Ren_L314
@Ren_L314 10 ай бұрын
This is nothing compared to what actually good pilot/gunner combo could do with a chopper in previous games. Sometimes you get potatos as opponents and get a free game like that, that goes for all vehicles.
@marzipandan767
@marzipandan767 10 ай бұрын
100% agree, everytime I see people complaining about choppers in 2042, I think back to BF4 and being on the wrong end of a pro pilot. It was a nasty experience. It did cause me to get really good with the SRAW, which was an awesome weapon for countering aircraft.
@dingdongchingchong8659
@dingdongchingchong8659 Жыл бұрын
It's harder than it looks.
@tap10lan
@tap10lan Жыл бұрын
Fair and balanced - right?
@marzipandan767
@marzipandan767 Жыл бұрын
Mmmmmm... it seems a bit strong...
@paladinfoxx6574
@paladinfoxx6574 8 ай бұрын
I've been a BF player for about a century now, and in 2042 helos are the most nasty and dominant I've seen in the franchise. Most people in most of the games I play simply ignore them because they feel out right useless trying to take them down. My biggest gripe with BF will always be giving aircraft unlimited flares, it's a poor design choice. It should be 4 flares and then either an incredibly long cool down time like 5 mins, or 4 flares and you have to fly back to your teams spawn to restock on flares. A good helo pilot can make easy work out of a game if no one challenges him.
@marzipandan767
@marzipandan767 8 ай бұрын
Honestly, we just need more infantry solutions to aircraft that involve manual aiming and not lock ons. The problem with lock ons is that they are too basic of a mechanic, there is no skill to them. Without flares, AA missiles become completely overpowered as an answer to aircraft. By giving infantry tools like Lissiles or Stationary AA guns you are creating a more balanced counter play, since players on both sides of things (the aircraft and the infantry trying to kill them) have to demonstrate some skill in order to kill the other. Choppers (and aircraft in general) have been overpowered in plenty of the other BF games, but in those, there were more solutions to them, which is how you make a fun, high skill game.
@paladinfoxx6574
@paladinfoxx6574 8 ай бұрын
@@marzipandan767 the other problem I see the most frequently is that NO ONE is even trying to take down the helos, people pick their character and thats it they're locked in and they don't swap or their character has zero AA capabilities and that's someone else's problem. So then a night bird, or super hokum gets 100+ kills with no resistance. Liz and Crawford are my 2 mains, and I'm putting in the work in most games to shoot down helos, thankfully I'm fairly decent with Liz and even if I miss with the TV missile I've noticed that it will get the helos to buzz off for a bit and play way more cautiously until I eventually get them. But damn sometimes I feel like the only person trying.
@marzipandan767
@marzipandan767 8 ай бұрын
@paladinfoxx6574 I completely understand that feeling. As soon as I see there is chopper doing work and no one dealing with it, I'll swap to deal with it. Honestly, Stingers being in the game probably makes this worse, since most players by now will see that these weapons don't work and just immediately conclude that choppers are impossible to kill, hence not even attempting another method of killing them...
@paladinfoxx6574
@paladinfoxx6574 8 ай бұрын
@@marzipandan767 if I do see other Liz players they only ever shoot missiles at ground vehicles, or waste missiles shooting at snipers in cover thinking that's a good way to deal with them. To bad there isn't like a gadget for dealing with helos equal to C5 like a throwable item, or Boris getting an AA sentry turret that fired weaker missiles or something like that.
@Cykstfc
@Cykstfc Жыл бұрын
“If only they were smart enough to realize it was good to begin with.” Damn straight. The attack choppers were always good, but everyone was too busy dicking around in little birds to notice.
@MrEssexRay
@MrEssexRay Жыл бұрын
attack choppers actually had the highest skill ceiling of the helicopters, not the little bird, bang on
@marzipandan767
@marzipandan767 Жыл бұрын
I love the attack choppers, both pre and post buff. Once you get good at hitting choppers with the 127mm rockets, you are set! I'm loving having two TOW missiles, but I know DICE is going to nerf them.
@marzipandan767
@marzipandan767 Жыл бұрын
I completely agree! The nightbird and the stealths are quite easy to use in comparison because they both do very good against other aircraft.
@DigiKiller
@DigiKiller Жыл бұрын
Did they buff/nerf the flight behaviour of choppers? Up until a few days ago I was learning to fly in bot lobbies and perfecting sensitivity etc but now it feels like the assists are switched back on but I checked, they're not. I did buy a new controller but it's again a standard ps4 controller but I can't fly as smoothly as u was before, I also find my chopper banks a lot more while turning, I'm so confused.
@marzipandan767
@marzipandan767 Жыл бұрын
They changed the maneuverability of the attack chopper, it feels much more 'bouncy' than before. It definitely takes time to get used to. They might have changed the model for other choppers too, but I've been too busy with the attack choppers to notice. I've not heard anything on the reddit about this either, so it seems unlikely?
@Maksimkopaev
@Maksimkopaev Жыл бұрын
What about vehicles tier list can help to boost your channel
@abendigopeck6596
@abendigopeck6596 Жыл бұрын
That gameplay was enjoyable to watch
@marzipandan767
@marzipandan767 Жыл бұрын
I'm happy at how it came out. I personally think the dual perspective is much more engaging than just one.
@jzryc
@jzryc Жыл бұрын
Nah you’re reaching with the title they not made him op, they just made him usable enough to the point he not longer gets outdamaged from the 50mm hind. They took damage from the pilot away (127mm rockets splash reduce) & gave it the gunner on top with thermal. The overheat is way to quick & protect most of the infantry from the heli. Still the biggest & slowest heli it’s easy to hit. There are still too many things which bullshitting all aircraft & are easy to aim. At this point y‘all just mad about that one mi-28 on Shanghai couple years ago who killed you every time you shot at it. Every comment down here seems to think the best way to avoid death from heli, is shoot missiles at them. Dice should change the stinger lock on to be Hold up & not just everything fire & forget. that‘s boring & way to effective. But they are a still big threat & still meta in air to air combat even with 2 tow‘s available. At the moment nothing rewards you more then a lock on, don’t matter if aa or at they do way to much damage if it hit. The time where you get rewarded for your skill & focus was on the gameplay quality, are over. Nowadays ur just not rewarded for good aim but for the few sec u look at something.
@marzipandan767
@marzipandan767 Жыл бұрын
We shall see. I think playing armour is going to be much harder, and we'll start seeing attack chopper gunners topping the leaderboard. I still think using lock on weapons are a waste against aircraft in this game. You are much better using these methods that depend on skill. Like the 30mm cannons on the wildcat or the Lissiles. Thanks for commenting! It's great to get multiple perspective on these things.
@jzryc
@jzryc Жыл бұрын
@@marzipandan767 yeah the ka520 is way better as the apache now, stoped using heatseekerd, now it’s tow time. The apache now needs a similar gun for the pilot to keep up imo. Unfortunately they messed on controller something up it’s a pain in the ass to fly the attqckchoppers😮‍💨
@marzipandan767
@marzipandan767 Жыл бұрын
@reaqz3885 I'll always choose the 127mm anti vehicle rockets they are so good at cleaning up armour. Once you get consistent with dealing with aircraft with them, they are the clear best choice.
@BicBoi1984
@BicBoi1984 Жыл бұрын
That jet tho
@marzipandan767
@marzipandan767 Жыл бұрын
They had no chance xD
@Mario-aquino
@Mario-aquino Жыл бұрын
That was some satisfying gameplay
@marzipandan767
@marzipandan767 Жыл бұрын
I love the attack choppers, always have and always will! Thanks for commenting!
@LD-sx9pr
@LD-sx9pr Жыл бұрын
While they are powerful, not every player are going to be skillful and/or well co-ordinated like you guys are, they may get unlucky and die to a stinger while flares are on cooldown, I got a heli with a gunner like that after they destroyed my wildcat when i first ran into a duo in a hokum. Other times there will be other aircraft to fight them like Jets or the stealth chopper or NB. You can also be just as effective as in a Stealth or Nightbird if you were good in a attack chopper. The issue was Attack helis were not intuitive to use for the AVERAGE Player if they weren't similar to the other helos, and then the kit is the worst to level up. At least now the buffs will make it like other choppers but with it's own kinks and bells and whisles. I tried to use the 35mm on the wildcat to make up for the 25% damage reduction of flak on the attack choppers but the range and velocity doesn't match up well that I died even if i saw them coming straight at me where they are they can disable my turret and take me out. Had to resort to using the 30mm and AA missiles to keep them at skybox level where neither of us can attack each other (Not Fun waiting up there or on the ground.)
@marzipandan767
@marzipandan767 Жыл бұрын
I've been dominating ground vehicles, even just running solo. Whenever I do get a gunner, even if they are just okay, they can get a lot of work done xD Yeah, the 30mm are still better, in my opinion. The 35mms are just too slow. You can still shred the attack choppers with the 30mm if you can get close.
@damienmcdonald7610
@damienmcdonald7610 Жыл бұрын
Wow I mean last couple of weeks I've been shredding with attack choppers already can't wait to see how op they are to fly now lol it does look a bit too good
@marzipandan767
@marzipandan767 Жыл бұрын
Oh buddy... you are going to have a great time :D
@IanTed
@IanTed Жыл бұрын
What’s the best way to learn to fly choppers, tired of being on the receiving end🤣? Perhaps I need to buff my Lis skills first🤨😬
@marzipandan767
@marzipandan767 Жыл бұрын
Definitely just hop into a solo/coop game or an empty portal server and just try to stay in the sky, don't even try shoot anything. You will eat dirt a lot, but eventually it will click. Then you can start shooting things, and while you are at it start saying hello to the ground again, because this stage comes with your best friend more dirt! If you are in solo or coop, then shoot enemies. If you are playing in an empty portal server then you can shoot the empty passenger vehicles that litter the map. Honestly it will take you a couple of hours to get decent, and then when you get into games against real players you are going to see how hard it is to actually stay in the sky. At this point you'll want to watch some good players and learn the strategies that they use to completely negate AA Lock on missiles. Hope this helps! But yeah, definitely buff your Lissile skills :) Check out Timeless Gamers video if you want some Lis tips: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4Svn3aGetiVgrM
@IanTed
@IanTed Жыл бұрын
@@marzipandan767 Thanks, need to buff my vehicle skills, got the hang of tanks but aircraft needs some work…
@moonsteel4096
@moonsteel4096 Жыл бұрын
Playing with yall is a dream of mine
@veertype
@veertype Жыл бұрын
Same here. I feel like I could learn a lot.
@MrEssexRay
@MrEssexRay Жыл бұрын
completely agree, anti vehicle rockets were already 3-4 rocket infantry kill, a little over full volley for armour. wish they instead made the splash SMALLER but damage higher to actually reward precise shooting. Also idk why they nerfed the gunner firing speed so much before this patch, now it feels too strong. Ultimately once you learnt how to aim the anti vehicle rockets against other air vehicles it was well in line with the little bird. Smart rockets are fine for inexperienced pilots, but anti infantry about worthless
@marzipandan767
@marzipandan767 Жыл бұрын
I agree. I think a smaller blast radius, or at least smaller blast damage against vehicles, is a good idea. You should be rewarded for hitting your shots. I hate that the smart rockets are the first ones people get to use. They are so bad compared to the 127mms and I feel like it puts a lot of people off using the attack choppers. Thanks for commenting man! Glad to have another attack chopper player chiming in!
@yukon9565
@yukon9565 Жыл бұрын
This is why i got really good with the rail gun, no chopper is safe in my lobbies
@marzipandan767
@marzipandan767 Жыл бұрын
If they notice you, you'll be in a bad spot. As soon as they get on top of you, you can't do anything... so make sure that first shot connects or you are moving around.
@yukon9565
@yukon9565 Жыл бұрын
@@marzipandan767 i don't ever play alone, my friend is a good Lis we do what we can to make it as miserable as possible for helis to enjoy a match, usually they leave because i make sure to bag as hard as i can 😂
@yukon9565
@yukon9565 Жыл бұрын
@@marzipandan767 also good luck notice me (Blasco main) you know the invisible woman
@paulstevenson7521
@paulstevenson7521 Жыл бұрын
honestly, I am really sick of op choppers. and just being farmed by the a-holes that fly them, almost enough to make me stop bf2042
@alexr.3319
@alexr.3319 Жыл бұрын
How? I literally just use Rao and tell my teammates in the chat to lock on them. You can also use the soflam and the tracer dart which doesn't allow the stealth chopper to hide.
@LD-sx9pr
@LD-sx9pr Жыл бұрын
Use Liz to blow up choppers in 1 hit (2 to attack choppers) rather than be a paste eater and using it on tanks
@LightYagami-lr4zf
@LightYagami-lr4zf Жыл бұрын
Sounds like skill issues to me
@tempuraliciouss69-91
@tempuraliciouss69-91 Жыл бұрын
*sigh*.......(reload Liz missile)
@marzipandan767
@marzipandan767 Жыл бұрын
This comment actually warms my heart
@tempuraliciouss69-91
@tempuraliciouss69-91 Жыл бұрын
@@marzipandan767 im getting better snagging those dragonfly from the sky thanks to you
@marzipandan767
@marzipandan767 Жыл бұрын
@tempuraliciouss69-91 nah man it's all you :) Keep up the good work!
@shalesnail420
@shalesnail420 Жыл бұрын
This is me in battlefield 😂 I just made a video of nothing but lis missiles
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