Attack of the Legends: Thermal Detonators

[@dimebag124]

Im happy to see Mr. Saintmillion doing more content. Star Wars lore content is always a big hit with myself. May many more subscribers follow the force to this channel in 2021.

[@eidorianseeker]

Wow this is exactly everything I wanted as a kid. My imagination was always that it was a sphere of disintegration and not just a Star Wars grenade. That was just from watching the movies and long before I read a technical book.

[@JunebugGaming]

John Moviebattles himself is back in business baby

[@ike3558]

Was expecting at least a mention of the deadman's switch at the end of the first chapter of KOTOR. Very excited to hear you are doing more Star Wars stuff. You are one of the highest quality Star Wars channels on the platform for sure.

[@noahfessenden6478]

You gotta do lightsabers sometime mate. That said, this is great. I love me some Legends. Especially nowadays.

[@stevenprice812]

I remember reading about a thermal detonator that had a blast radius of one kilometer

[@GMMReviews]

Star Wars Canon Wookipedia Page: *"ThE tHeRmAl DeToNaToR iS a GrEnAdE tHaT gO boom!"* Star Wars Legends Wookipedia Page: *essay 4x longer than this video*

[@omarbaba9892]

Jesus Christ I hate people like you who expect canon which has existed for less than 10 years to legends which existed for over 40 years!

[@kalebk9595]

@@omarbaba9892 unfortunately most people only know "old thing good, new thing bad"

[@jango3281]

I have to say that you are wrong about the video games not getting TDs right. There is one exception, and that is The Phantom Menace video game. Thermal detonators in TPM were something to run the hell away from at least on the PC version.

[@dudeduderson8046]

I think "Legends" canon can also be called "Correct" canon.

[@josiahcmiller]

This guy gets it

[@mr.exposition]

I agree, i think the whole "Palpatine is the villain yet again!" and the whole Palpatine clone thing was so forced and out of nowhere... wait a minute

[@jesser1070]

@@mr.exposition Lmfao

[@stripey566]

I'd argue it's more like the "acceptable" canon due to its high highs and really low lows. This is compared to the Disney canon, which has a status quo so retarded every single story within it takes a huge blow to the balls.

[@jesser1070]

@@stripey566 Depends on the story. New Disney Cannon has consistently good books, comics and shows when compared with Legends, but they're lacking in terms of games. I feel like after RotJ, Star Wars has always been at it's best with things surrounding the films as opposed to the films themselves. Legends and the new Cannon succeed with different degrees of success with different media.

[@ThatOneCoconut]

The old EU is my shit. Have an entire bookshelf dedicated to the books and a few comics, the quality of its storytelling and how well it did continuity wise is just astonishing. The EU is why i am so into star wars.

[@patrick3713]

Ive been waiting for this, nice to see a new upload nice job!

[@Codric]

Happy life day, you class-A Chad

[@anthonyscharff6768]

Can’t wait for episode 2 sometime in 2022.

[@Abir-cb4ii]

9:25 can't remember the actual episode but R2D2 used one from a dead clone without the code, just let it fall down the holl because the ship was disabled and thrown out of position. that was the only time I the use of that item

[@mister_john]

He must’ve hacked the terminal on the bomb... or something.

[@jacobmoore6703]

But again it's a tv show and every adaptation of thermal detenators outside books are just hand grenades

[@chazblank2717]

I love the idea of someone getting into a refrigerator to survive a thermal detonator… Imagine Leia’s finger slips and she vaporized everyone in Jabba’s Palace, then Luke shows up to the crater and just finds Han in a block of thawed out carbonite… now Lando can’t fly the Falcon so it’s either gonna sit unused during the attack on the second Death Star or it’s gonna be destroyed. C-3P0 isn’t around to negotiate with the Ewoks. R2 I dunno fails open a door or something… and Luke’s out a lightsaber so he’s gotta use Yoda’s little short lightsaber in his epic final duel with Vader 😂 It would honestly be super interesting to see how that duel would play out differently if Leia’s already dead and the threat of turning her to the dark side is totally off the table… maybe it’s still got a “happy” good guys win ending if Leia’s Force ghost guides a blind Han Solo to simply crash the Falcon into the Death Star reactor core and just kill everyone aboard (including himself) like Luke always planned and Harrison Ford always wanted.

[@noahfessenden6478]

It is worth mentioning that the thermal detanator in Knights of the Old Republic yielded a larger blast than all other grenades in the game. At the very least larger than a standard class F.

[@twistedyogert]

Which is odd because KOTOR takes place 3000 years before Episode 4. Shouldn't the older ones be less functional?

[@SmokeyBCN]

One game I think kind of gets thermal detonators a bit better than most is the quirky episode 1 ps1 game. They are rarer weapons on that game, can more or less kill every enemy on screen, and are noticeably more powerful than another ingame weapon, "flash grenades" (essentially regular frag grenades).

[@johnnycasteel7]

Shadows of the Empire would of been such a legit movie FFS Disney

[@KeeblerElvesYaoi]

the place you live looks comfy

[@simonguilloryseguin4954]

They're pretty accurate in the not-so-loved EP1TPM game. Spherical blast and shit

[@roguewookiee7534]

Hell yeah bro, you went back to Movie Battles! I want to see another gameplay vid in that!

[@mister_john]

12min video about Thermal Detonators. > Disney canon.

[@halyomorpha]

Great video, I wasn't aware of how inaccurate thermal detonators were in the games. Fascinating.

[@JHorsti]

So turns out the insane Thermal Detonators from the Phantom Menace game's PC version are the most lore accurate.

[@omarbaba9892]

My guess for the grenade style thermal detonators are that they were regular grenades that were designed to look like thermal detonators to cause mass fear

[@NineToFiveGamerUC0079]

B U K A K I

[@frogsty1764]

Your voice is so manly, I wish you were my dad... dad? Is that you? Dad?

[@apsychopuppet7923]

I just want to be the 69th comment

[@saintmillion]

Nice.

[@drd7of14]

What about in The Phantom Menace video game? Those explosions were quite large

[@MG-bw9hs]

Cycler Rifle or Seismic Charges! Awesome video as always

[@pizzafonzarelli4580]

what's your name on moviebattles bro

[@Mremperor]

I enjoyed the Moviebattles II callouts. Best mod ever indeed.

[@harlannguyen4048]

Don't forget about Movie Duels as well.

[@Stonehawk]

Nicely organized! I love the idea of a literal diet coke and mentos "toy explosive", wish it actually went off

[@worldtraveler930]

I rather enjoyed the fact that he labeled it a class D as in Disney!! 😆

[@alextoutazimut5767]

@Saintmillion I discovered your channel and it is great ! Honestly, a thermonuclear bomb in the pocket is kind of OP. And implying there is a micro tech to contain the blast implies there exists personal shield generators of similar efficiency and so on: it is then hard to justify why such tech is not used everywhere (in fact nuclear weaponry is always hard to justify/use in the starwars universe and I prefer to omit it). For this reason, in tabletop rpg I only classify and describe the thermal detonator as a grenade with a huge power and intense localized heat (techno blabla is not explained to not trigger the player into taking advantage of it), and baradium as an unstable explosive matter X times more "powerful" than classic explosive (TNT for example).

[@rhyswong8976]

Star Wars Outlaw says BS.

[@arcanstonehide1429]

Truly, the visual depictions of this work of art pale in comparison to its true might.

[@cameronvalencia6023]

This dude....Buccakey.......lmfao

[@Snottle1]

Love this video, excellent visual aids

[@Keeganners]

Hey you're the best

[@amarpinder7493]

Could you do vibro weapons

[@dashbolt101s]

I like the idea of the class-F and would like to expand my headcanon by slightly modifying some of the informations about the different models so that it can fit both legends and canon in a way that I consider to be quite acceptable and faithful to both materials. So here is what I added to my own headcanon : Due to the sheer power of Merr-Sonn original class-A detonators as well as their unstability, those got officially banned by the Republic with strict orders on Merr-Sonn to stop manufacturing them and selling them. Class-C, although far more obscure and less famous, were also banned at the same time. By that time, the reputation of the class-A had already spread, and it was considered by many in the galaxy to be one of the best explosive device, thanks to its compactness, its sheer power but also its ingenious design that was not only very ergonomic but also allowed for useful features such as the possibility to change the fuse duration as well as the dead man's switch setting. Following its ban - Merr-Sonn therefore wanted to capitalize on the reputation of the Class-A design, by issuing a new line of detonators under the same name and design, to the only difference that this time, the Class-F didn't involve a beridium core and instead was just a classic explosive device creating a big messy firy explosion - cheaper to produce, it was still very powerful and quickly became the most used and known version in the galaxy. With the beginning of the Clone Wars - the Republic ordered to Merr-Sonn insane amounts of those Class-F detonators so that they could equip their Clone Army with it - that is why most of the denators we see being used in movies or tv shows are Class-F ones. Yet, the republic also approached Merr-Sonn with a slightly darker idea in mind : revive the Class-A design under a new and slightly different design : the V-1 model. This model was supposed to be kept secret and exclusive to the Grand Army of the Republic, since the use of the Class-A detonator or any similar explosive device was still banned and considered to be war crimes. The V-1 models were used mainly by special forces or sometimes regular troops on very specific cases, often to conduce illegal operations during the war and their design was similar to the ones of the class-A, yet purposefuly made different so that they could not be identified directly as being Merr-Sonn technology (a precaution taken by the Republic that ended up being useless as Merr-Son started secretly selling those to the CIS too to maximize its profit).

[@saltyketchup1796]

I think Angry bird star wars got the depiction of thermal detonators right. Circular blast that destroys everything in it's radius, nothing outside is harmed, sticks to surfaces.

[@MrDDiRusso]

THERMITE burns at 2200° C, WHITE PHOSPHORUS burns at 2700° C.

[@RipChip]

Wow this video was a blast to watch

[@Nakosuke-75]

**sees Thermal Detenators** "Oh, its just a grenad- **is literally the f•cking Oxygen Destroyer**

[@Good_Boy_3000]

In canon, a Class A Thermal Detonator can't even destroy the leather holster of it's user...Obi-Wan Kenobi!

[@bling__brute6048]

I thought it was just cool round grenade, but i didnt know it was a death sphere. As well as maybe a little more advanced, but also a mininuke.

[@conndor2753]

After seeing how everyone in Jabba the Hutt's lair reacted and then seeing it portrayed in games, I thought everyone was overreacting, seeing that it won't kill everyone. But then I see this and I can understand why the thermal detonator was so feared.

[@biggeek2256]

I can imagine people looking outside to see you chucking the bottle that looks like a Thermal Detonator

[@NecroPort]

Ever since learning this and loving the legends explanation of them which describes them as a device one step down from a bio weapon or actual nuclear warhead and being a rare tool in the galaxy

[@buschacha]

8:55 That is a T-800 Terminator and you cannot tell me otherwise. I know you agree, I hear that theme in the background.

[@daedra1175]

Bro, please make more at a higher pace, in love with your humour and style of going back through legends

[@Halogodzilla12343]

Maybe the word thermal detonator in universe has become synonymous with grenade, similar to the situation irl where searching anything online is referred to as Googling it.

[@kamerondonaldson5976]

thermite is incendiary not explosive. whatever the fusion reaction of baridium is, i am not sure it works the way they say it does.

[@steelewg1007]

I like the vid, but how are the movies getting them “wrong” when they are canon?

[@Jamacanbacn]

Thermal detonator expert and content smuggler on the side

[@andresantonio3339]

Hey saint, i play movie battles 2 every week. Do you still play? Sometimes i wonder if i have ever seen you on any of the servers lol

[@matthewr1019]

I think about this video all the time. Love your content so much dude

[@Flint84]

That scene from Cyberia you put in at 1:00 is pretty retro, I appreciate it.

[@abdullahiaderinto5153]

Can you make a video on how blasters work

[@CDRHooks]

Happy New Year’s Eve everyone!

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Dad is back fuck yeah

[@aggreablejellyfish1403]

Oh fuck yes another saintmillion video

[@narutobroken]

What game is that in the beginning where the game plays throwing a grenade?

[@saintmillion]

That's a mod for Jedi Academy called Movie Battles 2.

[@jesser1070]

It’s Super Mario Brothers 2

[@Hindsightt2020]

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Cool

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[@NicksInternet]

This was great!!!

[@pixelforge4858]

instant thumb up

[@tiggytheimpaler5483]

I still like how sometimes star wars lore actually accurately depicts real world science and other times just goes full bat shit high fantasy, and yet it all stays surprisingly consistent

[@Sangth123]

This was basically a grenade but some of the people writing the EU needed it to be Super Extra Special so they made up some BS about it atomizing things in a 20 meter radius even though a grenade-like blast would still be plenty threatening in Jabba's crowded palace in RoTJ. I prefer the lower-yield game versions.

[@Bonnie_Dimples]

Good stuff, Saint Milly! I could seriously listen to you rattle off about the nitty-gritty of the old Star Wars expanded universe all day and I'm looking forward to this becoming a series! You got any plans on doing a breakdown of the Yuuzhan Vong war? It's got it's issues, but I've always thought it's a way more interesting take on post-empire Star Wars than "Empire 2.0."

[@saintmillion]

Def gonna visit the yuuzhan vong at some point, thanks Bonnie!

[@HeckaLives]

Still hate the old expanded universe, and I will continue to piss on the corpse of Legends. But I will admit the new canon is bad and worse in an entirely different way. I suppose the most tragic thing about Star Wars canon is that I will never have enough piss.