Attack on Titan 4x21: "From You, 2,000 Years Ago" // Reaction and Discussion

[@givemeaworkingname]

Zeke drops the mic. Eren picks it up and drops it. He picks it up again and goes, "Hear me, Subjects of Ymir...testing, testing...we good? ok...My name is Eren Yeager..."

[@ΓιάννηςΛάμπρης]

"...are you ready to rumble?"

[@ezzebjorn4562]

"This is radio New Eldia FM, this next song goes to every outside, it'll LITERALLY rock!

[@E_free90]

"let the bodies hit the floor.. let the bodies hit the floor....."

[@aurorapaisley7453]

@@ezzebjorn4562 *plays Rumbling by SiM*

[@cbhensoncbhenson5515]

At the end of Season 1, we learned that there are colossal Titans in the walls. At the end of Season 2, we learned that Eren had the ability to control titans. And at the end of Season 3, “If we cross the sea and kill all our enemies, will we finally be free?” We’ve been building up to this moment for so long and now it’s here.

[@youtubesucks1885]

Eren saying multiple times in season one : I will kill every last one of them. or I will destroy the entire world in Ep 25. This whole story is absolutely mindblowing

[@opie_yt]

She was never a god, nor a devil. Just a person. A slave. The most tragic character. So sad. Yet Eren was the only one to see her for who she was. Absolutely beautiful yet heartbreaking

[@_O5O5]

She just wanted a hug :(

[@あい-z2d9d]

not a slave

[@pirate8085]

😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@اميرمادرا]

@@_O5O5 yes sad 😔

[@اميرمادرا]

@@pirate8085 EREN and yimir and Rainer are sad people 💔

[@shivambansal42]

Discussion timestamps: 14:55 Initial emotions 18:35 What comes next? 20:21 The Founder Ymir 23:09 Season 2 outro 25:49 Source of the titans 27:35 Outro showing rumbling? 30:00 Eren’s hands 30:53 Historia and Ymir 33:23 A tragic life 34:51 Ymir’s true feelings 37:28 Who let the pig out? 40:52 Ymir’s punishment 42:28 The parasite 47:00 Ymir goes back 49:09 The first King 51:19 Ymir fighting in the wars 52:32 The history and Eren’s plan 55:39 The vow renouncing war 58:30 Did Ymir wish to die 1:00:13 The warrior and the spear 1:02:15 Ymir’s daughters 1:04:25 Titan succession 1:05:36 Beast titan 1:07:23 “I’ll end it” 1:09:34 Eren’s genuine moment 1:11:50 Morality 1:14:44 Historia and Ymir parallels 1:16:13 The only truth is that there is no truth 1:17:47 Midroll- source of the titans 1:22:05 Eren’s new Titan form 1:24:53 Everyone in the paths 1:26:17 Historia knew? 1:27:04 The ending illustrations 1:27:32 Prediction time 1:28:58 closing thoughts 1:29:28 Episode title

[@littlebluefishy]

Thx! I was looking for you lol

[@shivambansal42]

@@littlebluefishy sorry, got a bit late this time!

[@kafkahesse2606]

you are late nerd.

[@TheProviktor]

"Historia and Ymir parallels" God, as a manga reader this part of the discussion was painful to hear. So much wasted potential.

[@sumulacraandsimuladam]

you're a hero for these btw

[@katdoghawk]

The laughter response is like Eren's to Hannes's and Sasha's deaths. Too much to handle, nothing left to do but laugh!

[@aurorapaisley7453]

Holy fucking shit

[@jrlombardi5251]

Fun fact: The thing Ymir made contact with is an actual real creature that existed 500 millions of years ago, it's a hallucigenia. When it was discovered ppl almost couldn't beileve it was real for how crazy its appareance was, to the point of even call it an evolutionary alien and it even took them 40 years to discover where the head was. So sounds like Krueger was right when he told Grisha what was the most possible thing that gave Ymir her powers. It's so cool how Isayama uses things from real life for his story even if it's fantasy.

[@اميرمادرا]

Poor girl yimir Poor EREN and Rainer are my favourite 💔

[@aldrans1998]

@@اميرمادرا my favorite was the horse from s2 that was thrown like a ball by the beast titan

[@littlebluefishy]

Thanks for sharing. This is soo crazy. Really hope they see this info.

[@Bloodtoxx]

Has it actually been confirmed that the hallucigenia is what Isayama based it on? Or is that just a theory that everyone keeps claiming to be a fact? The only similarity is that they're long.

[@jrlombardi5251]

@@littlebluefishy me too bc they literally think the opposite, that we never heard of this in the show and that was invented and not inspired in something real

[@martinloss4171]

3:27 How did Rod escape? He didn't escape. They let him escape. As Grisha said: "I killed everyone BUT the father. Eren, are you happy now?" Rod was still necassary - for Historia, for the further development of the younger Eren, again for Historia to become the Queen by killiing Rod, and and and

[@JeusAlprime108]

Yeah, it almost fill all the plot hole we thought exist in all previous episode eg. how Rod survive that night, why choose Kruger choose Grisha and let Dina be titan on the wall, why Grisha choose to pass down his titan to Eren instead of doing it himself, why King Karl 100 years ago choose to quarantine his people, or why Dina didn't eat Berthold that day but instead undistracted move toward Carla to eat her and etc. It all explained here because the final Attack Titan in the line has been setting it all up to make sure this is the final Attack Titan and such power can no longer passed down.

[@henry_tsai]

Nah, Rod was just a coward and ran first, that's how he escaped. You can see Rod was furthest at the back when Grisha and Frida were about to transform.

[@BhBc8f8]

@@JeusAlprime108 Idk about that last part, i think Falco is most likely the next Attack Titan since he had memories of the future like Eren in E1.

[@nnightkingj]

@@BhBc8f8 I seriously doubt there will be any other attack titans or titan shifters again by the end. Falco seeing memories was foreshadowing him becoming the jaw that's already happened. I think Ymir somehow set everything up and Eren is Mikasas king fritz and if Ymir sees Mikasa go against/possibly kill eren she was be truly free and no longer make titans at least that's my theory but either way I I truly believe titans will be gone one way or another

[@BhBc8f8]

@@nnightkingj Maybe but we've never heard of any of the candidates seeing future memories before they got their Titan. Even Zeke seemed surprised by the concept. There are only 4 people who've had visions/memories of things that haven't happened yet: Eren Kruger, Grisha Yeager, Eren Yeager and Falco Grice.

[@mayonnaise9993]

What's crazy to me is that when feeding Ymir to Maria, Rose, and Sina, the king of Eldia probably didn't know that the spine is the key to passing down her powers. He fed his own daughters various parts of their mother, her heart, her brain, nothing was spared. That's so disturbing to me, as all they needed was a bit of her spinal fluid.

[@highlander31527]

Ymir decided that those parts were the important ones after his statement, and that it was how the power was passed. It was the order of royalty, not how it happened. The king said so, so Ymir made it so.

[@FishCornflakes]

If I remember/guess right The that is the reason why we have 9 Titans. When Maria, Rose & Sina ate Ymirs Body 3 more titan were added to the founding one. When they died they were again fed to their children and more titans were added to the founding titan & the 3 others. At one point I think when the 3 daughters of Ymir were eaten, eldians decided to stop that "tradition" and that's why we only have 9 Titans.

[@dimaudalow]

@@FishCornflakes , not sure they ever stopped. I mean, Eldian kings were greedy enough to multiply Ymir's power, why then stop at 9 Titans? More likely they continued but 9 became the limit to Titan shifters. Others just inherited the genes which allow all the Eldians to turn into mindless Titans. Cause I don't see any other explanation for all Eldians to carry this ability in their blood.

[@FishCornflakes]

@@dimaudalow All Eldians beside the 9 shifters are able to transform into Titans. When non shifters transform into Titans they become "brainless" and they instinctively eat humans. But why? Because they are instinctively trying to find one of the 9 Shifters to regain their humanity. If I remember right it is revealed/partially revealed in Seaosn3. As per why 9 Shifters, it is said not really confirmed though I will be honest, that by eating the body of ymir, 3 new titans appeared but the "titan strength/power" was kind of diluted so probably the bodies of Maria, Rose & Sina were eaten, but after that no because then the Titan Shifter number would be higher.

[@E_free90]

dont forget her ass as well. he was ahead of his time with booty eating

[@hotsaace2987]

“Today we’re watching season 4 episode 21” HE SAID IT

[@اميرمادرا]

Yes

[@faizalamirbashiira4565]

Yes

[@weare7742]

Yes

[@Diljabar]

Yes

[@usurper3497]

Prrr skibidi dom dom dom dom dom

[@hayashi1220]

Niccolo: killing a child? whats wrong with me Ben: kiliing a note? whats wrong with me😂

[@jordandwiggins1026]

XD

[@jordandwiggins1026]

Light Yagami would never

[@kalm5408]

Fun fact : the number of pedals on the bloody flower near the tree and the fingers of the people pointing at her represented the 13 years life of titan power and the 9 titan shifters

[@اميرمادرا]

Yes your right what R end his time

[@tylerfuller-battles8370]

With the bloody pedal being the Attack Titan, the one Titan that's always fought for her.

[@iremainteague5653]

Petals* pedals are on a bicycle.

[@xteratogenx13]

15:46 You're both experiencing a version of grieving. And it's absolutely fascinating to watch unfold. Even as you speak about how you're "usually" in synch with your emotions I can clearly see you're both experiencing the same thing but with different coping mechanisms at play. You guys are thoughtful and GENUINE reactors. Not playing up to the cameras. Subbed!

[@sohachan]

Exactly my thoughts! The most genuine AOT reactors ever!

[@jrlombardi5251]

Anna is wrong about the Ackermans, they didn't do a deal with Karl Fritz but the opposite, the Ackermans were the protectors and sword of the royal family TILL Karl Fritz, when Karl decided to erase everyone's memories and let them be attacked by mid titans the Ackermans betrayed him and the royal family bc they didn't agree with that. This was confirmed multiple times in season 3.

[@HoboEren]

This is so important and everyone always seems to forget even when we had an entire episode dedicated to it lmao

[@jrlombardi5251]

@@HoboEren omg literally, I hate that

[@zellustar2756]

Congratulations! You guys have managed to reach to this episode. As a reward, I shall give you my seed.

[@jlilley73]

🌱🌱🌱🌱🌱🌱🌱🌱🌱

[@f521_editzz6]

@@jlilley73 😆

[@marklieberman1527]

Pause 😭💀

[@andrewlynch4126]

🚔🚔🚔🚔🚔🚔

[@alexinator-hh5fe]

Eren to Annie in the S1 finale: What are you fighting for? What great cause could justify killing so many people? Reiner to Eren in S4 Ep 17: What are you fighting for? And then he says Eren is the worst person to have this power an episode later. Which is fitting because Eren is about to kill a bunch of people. He's turned into what he couldn't understand a few years back. Now we've finally seen the true history. It was a mix of both Eldian and Marleyan truth. Ymir did build stuff, but she also destroyed and crushed a lot of things and people too. And her descendants then did the same as well. Time to play devil's advocate for a bit. A lot of people always seem to think the Marleyan-Eldian conflict happened 2000 years ago. While yes, that is correct that it began 2000 years ago, it only ended recently, about a hundred years ago. Meaning the Eldians basically subjugated and destroyed the world for 1900 years. The Marleyans who currently are alive probably had Grandparents or Great-Grandparents who were subject to the Eldian Empire. And the stories of fear and hatred were passed down. Which is why the world hates Eldians. In war, things usually end with both parties coming to an agreement to not cause further destruction. But Karl Fritz didn't do that. He decided he didn't want to be that guy and his response to his people causing 1900 years of suffering was basically, "Sorry about all that. Promise we won't do it again." But he also threatened them with the Rumbling, pushing that same fear and rage onto future generations, running from the conflict and wiping people's memories. Some people like to sit on a moral high horse, but if someone tormented your family, friends, and everyone you knew for 2000 years throughout multiple generations, and their only response was saying sorry, you probably wouldn't be like, "Oh. They were just in a silly goofy mood. I guess we should just relax". That doesn't mean treating Eldia like how they were treated is right. And doing what happened to them to the rest of the world also isn't right. But the show brings up a few interesting themes. And one of those is becoming like your enemy. Hange noticed that she and the Government were becoming exactly like the same people they fought so hard to take down 4 years ago. People mistreat Marleyans and treat them like servants on the Island. Pixis notices that Yelena and the Jaegerists are putting armbands on people and isolating them like Marley did. And Marley became what Eldia once was. So the question arises. If you're so determined to defeat your enemy that you lose yourself and become exactly like them, do you still consider that to be a victory?

[@MRST0R]

Nice parallel to Armin’s quote

[@Tundra0stalker]

To put in a real world perspective of how relatively recently the Great Titan War, and therefore the Eldian Empire's tyrannical world domination, ended, 100 years is about the same time since the end of World War One. So only about three or four generations have passed. If people didn't have a grandparent that lived during Eldia's reign, they certainly had a great-grandparent who did.

[@bryanolivera7818]

In reality, Marley's hatred of the Eldians seems to be a mix between irrationality and immediate, that is: -they hate the current Eldians for something they didn't do (it's like they hate the son of a criminal just because his father was a criminal, the son is clearly not to blame for what his father did). - but they use them as a means to subdue other nations. Now, we all know that in a war there are neither good nor bad but if we want to talk about "who deserves to win" paradise is the most innocent of all, they lived fighting to survive the titans and they only wanted peace after that, just to discovering that the world hates them for something they didn't do (and it was because of the danger of being attacked that they became hostile towards marley and the world in general) they didn't even know that the eldian empire had existed, and if they knew, that they didn't makes them guilty, now, they are not supremacists, the paradise government was willing to negotiate with Hizuru (although they were only greedy who only wanted paradise's resources),paradise did not consider them inferior. and, although they do not try the best way to the prisoners of marley, they do it precisely because they are SOLDIERS prisoners of a country that wants to eliminate them, there is a big difference between that and what marley and the world do with the eldians. Now, it is not right and it will never be right for Eren to rumble, but I repeat that in a war there is neither goods nor bads, Eren doesn't enjoy doing that and he doesn't do it because he thinks that the Eldians are "better", he simply does it because They are his people and he swore to protect them.

[@m33p0]

i suspect Eren told Karl Fritz to do it.

[@اميرمادرا]

@@MRST0R yes your right Annie and Rainer are the same

[@tzimiable]

The music/direction in this show is absolutely maddeningly good. The music as the wall crumbles is spectacular in and of itself, but the choice to have the music continue seamlessly into the mid credits to keep the momentum drag on is awesome. One of the greatest moments in an anime of great moments. What a show, what a story, what a soundtrack. My hat is off for the best anime of all time.

[@jrlombardi5251]

Ymir coming back to serve to the king fritz and even sacrificing her life for him reminds me a lot of the warriors, they have titans, they have the power to destroy Marley that always treated them like shit but they still want to defend them more than anything else, they fight for them, they give their lives for them and they believe they're good and amazing ppl, that's what being brainwashed, or in this case being a slave, makes to ppl

[@samuelclayhills3298]

Well at least they are finishing his work witch is what really matters.

[@marleymarsss]

Omg you’re so right, this was a perfect analogy. Wow I’m stunnef

[@bulat8362]

well the warriors still had their families in the internment zones so they wouldn't rebel. And not every one of them was as loyal to Marley as Reiner was (Annie just wanted to return to her father, she didn't give a shit about continuing the mission)

[@jrlombardi5251]

@@bulat8362 that's not the point at all lmao. I'm talking about the brainwashing, not about having their families there oe those that aren't brainwashed, the complete opposite in fact.

[@m33p0]

"is this thing on? so, yeah. rumbling world tour starts now. if you're not already on the island, you're off the census. thank you."

[@julietaespinoza767]

Yessss Footsteps of Doom, what an amazing score. Gives me chills every time

[@اميرمادرا]

EREN is don't king

[@kazmolo]

4x19&4x21 reactions have been a truely amazing. Thank you both.

[@KING_FLOCH...]

And 4x20

[@O2H3]

This is the most well written and epic trio episodes in the history of anime

[@azeTrom17]

@@O2H3 AGREED

[@TonyB369]

@@O2H3facts

[@LeonC0704]

I love these two people so much. I usually play them as I’m doing other stuff. Just to have them in the background. It’s like listening to friends talk❤❤

[@DutchDread]

I believe the thing Ymir came in contact with wasn't the "devil of all earth". The devil of all earth that Ymir made a contract with was king Fritz, the demon in the iconic image doesn't show The devil giving an apple to Ymir, but Ymir giving an apple, that being the power of the Titans, to Fritz. Alternative interpretation is that it's symbolic with Eren being the devil of all earth, with Ymir giving the power of the founding titan to him, or him giving choice to her.

[@YUKI-qm3ur]

The year 2000 can be calculated just fine. 107 years ago the 145th King Fritz built the wall. 145 * 13 + 107 = 1992 Eren has 8 years left to live. 1992 + 8 = 2000 This is a very well calculated story.

[@SeanPalcic]

Eren had 8 years left to live when he first found out about the curse of ymir. That was 4.5 years before this, so itd be about 2004

[@martinloss4171]

Wow, I didn't know that it was exactly 2000 years. This is why AoT is one of the best written shows ever.

[@Bayard1503]

Well... that's assuming what? That King Fritz started building the walls immediately after he took the founder? or he died immediately after finishing?

[@SeanPalcic]

@@martinloss4171 it's not. He's 4 years off In the time that eren has left. He had 8 years left when he first found out about the 13 year curse. Then there was a time-skip of a few months for the finale of season 3, and 4 years between seasons

[@YUKI-qm3ur]

@@SeanPalcic 13 years life expectancy of the titan successor The 145th generation of the Fritz royal family that inherits the founder 13 x 145 = 1885 from the birth of the first ancestor 743 The 145th enters the wall 850 Joined the Eren Survey Corps 850−743 = 107 years since the wall was built 1885 + 107 = 1992 1992 + Eren's life expectancy of 8 years = 2000

[@kylearguelles]

I dunno if y'all will stumble upon this little comment of mine, but you guys are like becoming one of my favorite reactors in this platform. You guys offer so much insight and commentary on the media that you consume. Pls never stop making these videos and much love !

[@WattAShock]

I remember reading this chapter when it first came out. It's still mind-blowing.

[@jrlombardi5251]

43:31 we're not getting just introduced to this idea, this was already said by Krueger back in season 3

[@GameMaster-sh7tr]

It all comes full circle from their first reaction all the way to here! Haven’t watched yet but I already they are gonna lose their minds even more. Edit: I was definitely right, still get insane chills from this episode.

[@klm7272]

When I see that flower scene it reminds me of what Mikasa once said, this world is cruel but beautiful

[@jrlombardi5251]

44:57 - 45:08 Anna really needs to find out this wasn't something invented by the creator but inspired by an actual real creature

[@panjamysy]

Your laughter at the end is totally normal, a high stress reaction. I do this too, in fact there was a circumstance in my life a few years ago where I just broke into hysterical, maddened laughter for several minutes because I was so upset and my brain just couldn't handle the realization. I understand, more than a lot of people, that tendency.

[@suzumutsu]

Founder Ymir's backstory is so fucking brutal, I felt sick watching it... She's really been through absolute hell, and even after her death, she's just slowly been building titans for thousands of years, waiting for someone to come and free her...

[@bryanolivera7818]

I hope they give a good explanation for their obedience to the king

[@angelbedolla347]

@@bryanolivera7818lol

[@angelbedolla347]

However it’s much more fucken brutal what she has done to her people for thousands of years now.

[@bryanolivera7818]

@@angelbedolla347 What do you mean?

[@fc3sturbogtr]

@@bryanolivera7818 means that SPOILERS… They don’t, the reason given is (in my opinion and many others’) one of the worst explanations in AOT. Stockholm syndrome, Ymir fell in love with her captor/abuser King Fritz. It’s not to say it’s a genuine thing that can’t happen, but it felt like a cheap cop out to the narrative and became one of the arguments as to why AOT has, along with GOT, one the shittiest 2/10 endings in modern masterpieces.

[@siddharthgaur2205]

Man the animation and ost was so good Footsteps of Doom is one of my favourite ost From attack on Titan. It completely captured the horrors of Rumbling .

[@jrlombardi5251]

33:44 that's wrong, the reason why this all started and why she got to where she got her power was bc she let the pigs escape in the place of letting them there trapped to be eaten, she was so kind she didn't want that not even for animals and we all know what the king did to her bc of that

[@icriscolot]

This episode validates the Commander who killed Grisha's sister. Remember him saying how all people are fascinated by torture and death. We all wanted to see the Rumbling, we all wanted it to play out deep down in our hearts. Another AoT full circle

[@SeanPalcic]

Fun fact: isayama took reference from Norse mythology when he was originally writing the manga. In norse mythology Ymir was the first giant, and the paths tree is based on the Yggdrasil world tree which both supported all, and gave paths between the 9 realms

[@SeanPalcic]

Hey anyone who will see, moron me, who has been obsessed with attack on titan since I was 13 in 2013 and it first aired, and have been obsessed with worldwide mythology for about as long just realized that the 9 titans also equate to Norse mythology with the 9 realms

[@soomronaldo486]

1:14:55 really interesting if you watch the ending for season 3 part 1, you also see historia drowning like ymir did

[@loganshalloe5927]

Also in S3 ep3, young Historia is shown carrying a water bucket at her side exactly like Ymir does

[@Larindarr]

Here are a few things I believe I am noticing... but don't see reactors or comments mention or see... maybe it's interesting maybe not. But here it id :) It was a spine, and maybe spinal fluid laden waters. Of who? it is unknown. What happened to Ymir is what Eren feared would happen to Historia... and her would be children. And the cycle of war would go on. Ymir was a child. And a such mentally weak and was abused and used for her powers and had no sense of dignity it had been beaten out of her as a slave. And thus she trampled on humanity, no problem while still being a slave. Perhaps it was the only time she felt she could enact her rage. (circling back to Kenny's line "everyone is a slave to something") Ymir became a slave to the system of the coordinate and titans fuelled by her rage. The King knew this hence the anti war vow, so that this rage would not be unleashed into the world. Marley was not too far off. There is always a grain of truth to stuff. And they knew the extent of lethality brutality and evil that she could unleash. The attack titan and its ability to bypass this, was the fail safe key to stop this. And she waited for it as it was a matter of the not if. One of the main themes in this series has been "freedom". Just as she was set "free" to be haunted for sport, and almost as a sacrifice for that tree and spine, so she did to Eren. Armin thought Eren had won and got the power of the founding titan. But as soon as he realized all titans within the walls were released... he understood the power of the founding titan had taken over Eren. Eren was lead to that point by Ymir and though he tried to stop and change it many times, he was haunted by the memories and inevitable outcome just as she was haunted for sport when set "free". Eventually being a sacrifice which is reflected in his shape as the founding titan. No body hung bare to the bones almost shackled like the sacrifice positions and chains when others need to be eaten to get titan powers. Foreshadowing when he was shackled. She used his rage and pain to lead him there, and enact her rage and vengeance. Just as she pillaged the world before. He thought he could control it but his mind had begun to break since Historia hand kiss vision. And that is crucial. Because indeed the face he made was not his it was Ymir's rage. He was never free. Making Ymir for me.... truly evil. A created evil. There were many instances, where everyone failed him. In the sense that they pushed him to the brink, with comments remarks attitudes and what not, and did exactly the opposite of what Sasha's father explained. They never treated him like the child he was and is (he is 19 here btw). But always a soldier putting tremendous burden and pressure on him. Never checking to see if he was ok. Even as his personality started to fade visibly so. Eren was failed by them and used... while lying to himself to cope. That was the only freedom he could have. How to respond. This is something I don't see ppl addressing. And it's the most sad.

[@korganrocks3995]

This is the best comment I've seen on any AoT video, thanks for putting the feeling I had into words!

[@jrlombardi5251]

They really need to re-watch Grisha and Krueger's conversation bc they're forgetting stuff that would be really useful for them now

[@ness43011]

Can you elaborate please? 😁

[@jrlombardi5251]

@@ness43011 they act as if the only versions we had of Ymir getting her powers were divine things and we're just getting introduced to this one but that isn't true bc Krueger already implied this was the actual way she got it.

[@ness43011]

@@jrlombardi5251 I'm trying to think back to the episode but what exactly was said by Kruger? cuz I'm not remembering his words at the moment

[@jrlombardi5251]

@@ness43011 that the most probable thing isn't a pact with a devil or a divine miracle but just her making contact with the origin of life and material

[@ness43011]

@@jrlombardi5251 oh that's right I do remember him saying that. I had completely forgotten, thanks!

[@MuhanMado]

I've been refreshing my youtube for days waiting for this reaction, FUCK YES.

[@Acorn_Anomaly]

I love that they noticed that the paths split each time a new Eldian is born/created. Not too mnay people do.

[@shashanknegi1255]

Rod I believe actually didn't escape, I think he was left alive on purpose so that the chain of events could go in. If Rod wasnt there then Historia would never know things and then Eren would never kiss her hand and see the future as well

[@therrazer50]

"You can only poke a wild beast so many times until it decides to retaliate"

[@guardiandeity6519]

Ah, I was about to comment that you missed that Eren saw the future when he kissed historia's hand last episode (young Eren's horrified face) but you noticed this episode, nice. Now we understand why he looked like that, 16 yo Eren was losing his sanity

[@callmeleo]

Thank you for your reaction video! ❤ This episode broke my heart. Poor Ymir. I was waiting for your reaction to her backstory for 2000 years 😂

[@FukurouYGR]

1:01:50 There's a lot of flower easter eggs and prominence in certain scenes spread across Season 1 and 2 of the anime... I bet there's a huge plot twist and we have yet to get or something

[@dotexe8870]

Yeah. Eren isn’t playing around. A 19 year old quiet kid with the powers of the universe is a dangerous hypothetical and isayama made it a story.

[@ghost_boy2581]

This is honestly one of the best Attack on titan episodes

[@abhijithcpreej]

There is a theory I love which is that the requirements and consequences for Titan powers are the result of traditions. 1. Eating the spine to transfer power 2. Ymir obeying the Royal blood only, as does every pure Titan 3. Spilling blood to transform 4. Amnesia of the ritual of transfer of power (most likely the children of Ymir asked that of the Founder due to how traumatic it is)

[@remllames5727]

I know you guys don't read the comments, but at 32:30 you guys might have forgotten that titan shifters can heal and that she most likely grew her tongue back.

[@Luky.73]

fun fact: if you watch closely when everyone is pointing at Ymir at 7:18, the number of the hands are 13 litteraly dooming her (like the 13 years of Ymirs curse), and then when she see a flower at 7:47, the flower has 9 petals (like 9 titans)

[@Diljabar]

jesus

[@DXDragon38]

I've been looking forward to the discussion on this one since you started Season 4!

[@اميرمادرا]

I want to see Annie and Airmin are cute she batter then simp mikasa too best girl in Aot too me

[@PLBiohazard]

1:01:30 - I always thought Ymir committed suicide by taking that spear. At that moment, did she know she would not heal ? Maybe not but remember what Falco said about Reiner when he was giving up : "His body should heal with the Power of the Titans... as long as he has the will to live"

[@jrlombardi5251]

Ymir was taken by the eldians so since then she's considered an eldian, then she gets the power and just her descendants are able to get this power, since she was already an eldian and all her descendants were born in there they're considered eldians, especially coming from the king of eldia and her being the queen. That's why it is said just the subjects of Ymir/eldians can turn.

[@juansosa1670]

1:06:33 No, you haven't seen Mr Ksaver's titan form yet. But, there was a hint to it when he told his story about his wife and son. You will notice that when you re watch the show after Attack on Titan finishes

[@walfredoooo]

You guys so awesome, can't wait next épisode ^^

[@essiensamuel1816]

That's why eren doesn't say I want to free all eldians or I want to free all subjects of ymir...eren isn't being political or biased about it...he just said I want to save my friends on the island. And if you hear his final words in the episode you'll hear his motive...not for world domination not for the fun of it...but because the world will not rest until every last subject of ymir is dead. And he rejects that view

[@Supertoddy96]

Theres nothing that hits me more emotionally than this episode, nothing has hit story telling more perfect than this because of how hard the reveal hits you

[@10thtitanshifter22]

Like Grisha said, he "killed all royal members execept Rod". I think it's safe to say that Eren told Grisha to not kill Rod for Historia to be there, kiseed her hand to see the future.

[@jaemichoo]

I think its so smart to leave the whole “parasite” thing a mystery, bcs we as humans in the real world will never have all the answers either. Some stories introduce a higher power that should explain how the world came to be, but the realism and human-ness of AOT makes it actually so much better

[@MrTellitobi]

i remember when i thought eren was bluffing about murdering everyone across the sea in season 3 finale

[@monitoradiation]

Well as an anime only, looking back, I now think I knkw how the show is going to end. Because theres only one way Eren would ask that question

[@KeangoDLuke]

@@monitoradiation best to go in with no expectations. Isayama wrecked alot of people theories with the last couple of chapters

[@pjmnglow]

@@KeangoDLuke as an anime only i have no crazy theories or expectations the show has giving me enough that the only thing i need its for it to land the ending, my only prediction would probably be Eren dying at the hands of either Mikasa or both Mikasa and Armin it makes the most sense for his story to me. But i cant think of anything atp that would ruin the show for me other than something crazy like for ex it was all a dream or some bs like that.

[@KeangoDLuke]

@@pjmnglow hopefully the rumors of the last couple of chapters being adapted into two long OVA like episodes is true so you don't have to wait that long

[@wingdings_1738]

I AM HERE, AND IM SO HYPED!

[@erwinbodak886]

It's just my theory, the reason ymir got the Spears into her is to save king Fritz.. after these 13 years even though the king treated her as a slave, she falling in love with king Fritz. She was happy since king Fritz make her as his wife, there's no more suffer, she get well dress and food, and as a king's wife, everyone respect to her.. she had a family that she always wanted to.. but in the end, she gave up after all what she has done for king Fritz, (build an empire for him) the king still call her his slave, and didn't love her and still use her as a tools for him for the very end.

[@yessir5956]

Ymir might have the most tragic backstory in the whole show

[@Grandy_UiD]

41:28 It's probably the opposite, really. This episode all but confirmed that Ymir has built every single titan that ever existed BY HAND out of clay/mud/whatever in this dimension. There's millions of Collosal Titans in the walls alone. She probably spent what equals dozens of million years in here.

[@SmooveGazz]

24:39 by the way, when this was released, not even the manga readers knew what that meant.

[@jyjaeskz]

Anna's reaction to the ending of this episode was my exact reaction too

[@abdelbouzazia4955]

It's true that Eren needs her but he was more than sincere about the fact that he thinks that she doesn't have to be a slave to somoene

[@Whateveridontcaremeh]

Ymir was a slave to being kind, ironically eren is a slave to "freedom"

[@iremainteague5653]

I've been waiting for this! Even after this there are still so many things I can't wait for y'all to see! What a great show.😆

[@اميرمادرا]

Yes poor zeke and the girl

[@roses_are_rosies-g4h]

"My life's falling apart just like my notebook." -Aot Ben 2023

[@JulianAbreu]

the creature is based on an actual prehistorical creature named Hallucigenia

[@clovebeans713]

Im pretty sure they would have known Maria, Rose and Sheena's names even without Paths since these girls were historical figures and Titan Matriarchs so they would be pretty important to Eldian history and Identity. Their names would be passed down through history in legend. Asking how they know those names is our world equivalent to asking how we know Hannibal's or Julius Ceasar's names. I guess this episode blew your mind soo much that you guys didn't think of rational possibilities like you usally do.

[@Hmm-fh8rg]

Eren just stand up and said "it's rumbling time baby"

[@Timeforspas12]

This world can be so beautiful... yet, so cruel. This my favorite chapter adaptation from the series. The stockholm syndrome, Ymir's lack of free will. She was a slave all her life. She needed someone to free her.

[@handa_panda]

I believe the flower represent about her (Ymir) life. It has 13 petals referring to the 13 years they’re only going to live. I might be wrong.

[@redballerina781]

It has 9 petals, the 13 thing this ep is the number of hands that pointed at her when the king asked who ket the pigs escape

[@Tyhar93]

The first episode title is "To You, 2000 Years Ago". Which didn't make sense until this point. Wild.

[@Leroilerman]

The Attack Titan was created by Ymir for resist to the royal family. She was waiting 2000 years for Eren to free her. Since the begenning she knew futur through the Attack Titan. But she created this titan to free herself trough Eren. This episode is just the end of the entire cycle. The first episode was titled " To you, in 2000 years" Supposing to be Ymir's message to Eren from the past. And this episode is titled " From you, 2000 years ago" supposing to be Eren's answer to Ymir. All this time they were linked because they are the end and the begenning of this cycle. Ymir going to futur and Eren going to past, they both always exist for this conclusion to happen. Everything from the start was made to conclude on this decision to do the rumbling. Both of them suffered for 2000 years of History, seeing these 2000 years in memories.

[@guardiandeity6519]

I'm with Anna in this one, I also laughed at the end of every episode, it's my coping mechanism. For example i also laughed when Levi had to fight all the titans in episode 14 S4, not bc it's funny but bc ITS SO GOOD IM JUST 😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃

[@jerrygreenest]

10:15 you can notice how spear pierces the heart in entire anime we never seen any shifter's heart being pierced Eren was quite close to this in S1 though, but metal thingy was an opposite side from where hearth is

[@jrlombardi5251]

It's so funny to hear Anna talk about how someone could write in history and wait for people to believe it's real about this weird crazy thing that made contact with Ymir, knowing that the creature is actually real and it's in our history for real

[@WTFsenseilol]

My theory is exactly the same. The Attack Titan is Ymir's suppressed rage. Her Shadow, so to speak.

[@alishahrose2076]

Ymir, a slave her entire life. The only time when she tried to decide for herself (when she let herself die), she became the eternal slave. It is so tragic. Her suffering is out of this world.

[@heltonsantos345]

the point is the real story of Ymir is what Eren Krueger said to Grisha: "The truth is that there is no truth. Everyone can be a god or a devil, it just takes people to believe it." Part of what Grisha thought of Ymir was true, she built roads and help Eldia prosper, but the Marleyans were also correct. Eldia with the help of Ymir terrorized the world. Everything is grey. And its kinda funny when Frieda tells Historia that Ymir always thought of others since she helped the King with ethnic cleansing. Eren "freed" Ymir by giving her the decency and respect of being treated as a human being, BUT... he will do almost exactly what the king did... AGAIN.

[@jrlombardi5251]

Anna seems to believe that the curse of the 13 years being bc of Ymir dying 13 years after getting the power is just a theory, it isn't, this was confirmed in season 3, Eren explained in detail so we do know the curse is in fact bc of this

[@Inariestreams]

The Eldian Empie reminds me so much of Roman history; including how they would go through spurts of peace for a time then turning to infighting.

[@ismailelmassaoudi4317]

Anna you're just like eren laughing when sasha died 😂

[@cesarrodrigomayomendez4555]

11:57 in the anime they don't emphasize that much but in the manga when zeke runs desperately towards ymir and eren, focus is only on zeke's mouth and this is as if the first king fritz was speaking to ymir giving the orders

[@nizzyno3284]

Love the channel. Rod was big asf bc he took too much fluid. If you recall when the Owl and Greisha were on the wall in Marley the Marley officers made that one into a small titan based off the amount of fluid used

[@B4shti]

Mr. Ksaver probably was a bighorn sheep beast titan, it is shown in 2 different scenes, once when he plays catch with young adult Zeke and in the scene where his dead wife and son is shown.

[@Kumoii]

The way I always seen this episode. Was Eren's rage, his feelings, his thoughts. Are ALL Ymir's thoughts, rage, feelings etc before & AFTER she was affected by the thing that turned her into a Titan. Even moreso after because of her being shot at with arrows & then being forced to do all that horrible shit. Ymir WAS a good person, Eren WAS a good person. That's how I've always seen it.

[@jessepulido9667]

Remember in the Notebook ova when the Titan called that scout Ymir, this episode explains why

[@tFighterPilot]

no, that titan was referring to the modern ymir because the scout looked like her.

[@sar268]

@7:20 13 hands point to ymir, titans live 13 years and that's called the curse of ymir. coincidence?

[@shikov111]

I love the part when Eren says "ITS RUMBLIN TIME" and rumbled all over the place

[@justalittleboyP]

He's not a centipede, even though centipede designs come from the spinal creature... Blood Eagle, the Viking's execution, is what created his current appearance. As you all know, the base of this story is from Norse mythology. Currently, he feels like the King of Titan and the Eagle that will take his flight to freedom. Isayama's design and storytelling are beyond human level.

[@roses_are_rosies-g4h]

great discussion guys

[@upvotecomment2110]

39:24 - she was selected because she can't complain or counter the blame (Again... She doesn't have a tongue)

[@withxoutxlife]

I like how Eren changes from referring to his people as Eldians to referring to them as Subjects of Ymir after we see Ymir's backstory, and know how messed up the Eldian Empire actually was.

[@samuelclayhills3298]

He then basically goes on to do exactly what the empire did but on an infinitely worse scale so oof.

[@玩家_佚名]

Ymir 想要的只是要得到爱，可以通过她看到一对男女结婚可以推测出。所以当她获得巨人之力后还回到Fritz王身边，她以为这样就能得到爱，但是结果就是，她即使拯救了Fritz王的生命，Fritz王还是称呼她为奴隶，在那一刻，她放弃了回复伤口，选择死亡。即使如此，她还是在pass里为Fritz王造巨人

[@petertakashi]

50:13 Eldia is just a name. Fritz names them Eldia, so even if Fritz didn't colonize them and Yimir touched the source she'd still be able to turn. Not just Yimir but if anyone from her village did they could turn to a titan. Hence the whole generation can become titans. Yimir dies as a teenager and has 3 children, I don't think only those 3 could make the whole future eldian generation (while other villagers still existed)

[@everhall306]

The theory on Rod Reiss's Titan is that he took the Titan spinal fluid the wrong way. Ingesting it instead of injecting it.