Attempting to get MOTU back to retail - "The Fall of Eternia" Project that (sorta) didn't happen

Scott Toy Guru Neitlich of Spector Creative reviews a quasi unreleased MOTU project Planned for 2014, The Fall of Eternia project was an attempt to create a media rich Masters of the Universe story line and product offering including toys, comics, and potentially a video game and Direct to DVD movie. While the project fell apart, much of the story line was incorporating into the Masters of the Universe Classics Mini Comics and even the DC New 52 MOTU comics. Find out the whole story only on Spector Creative!

[@TheBigBigSean]

The MOTU DC comics run in the 2010s was such a blast.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Yes it was!

[@jonathancraddock1810]

Yeah it was. Those comics were awesome. Whenever Hollywood makes a Masters of the Universe film it would be cool to see them use the comics as inspiration.

[@emptycanvas79]

Here we go again, the blood line of the masters of the universe. This content is what gets us fans loving your channel. Thank you, great stuff. Connects the dots so we can see the whole picture.👍

[@spectorcreative1872]

Much more to come! And topics always welcome

[@MrJtmendoza180]

Thanks again Scott for this great video. Few days ago, the Stratos, Tri-Klops and Hordak figures arrived at our local malls, the Prince Adam and Sky Sled vehicle were available here few weeks ago. I remember my first Shadows of the Empire vehicle was the Swoop bike and Swoop trooper figure. The sculpt of the vehicle and figure were awesome!

[@nbriez-c5914]

Me too( in regards to my firat shadows vehicle and fig)

[@spectorcreative1872]

Yeah I was hoping we would have seen more of the Swoop in the Special Edition. He was cool

[@FriedSynapse]

I think that if they brought Scott on board for a new live action movie and planned a serious relaunch, He-Man could be back and stronger than ever. MotU has such a deep and fascinating lore that there really is no reason it can't spawn multiple shows and projects. It's still near and dear to the hearts of us old people and kids like it today too. It's like a cooler version of Conan. It's a rich and deep as Star Wars. I'd love to see what it could be in years to come.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Sony knows where to find me. Spectorcreative.com

[@Beedo_Sookcool]

Just give me time to grow my beard out a bit more, so I can audition for King Randor. 😉

[@johnmorey720]

"He-Man and Teela finally share a kiss! By the way, their son is like seventeen now."

[@ReaverPrime]

It's the prototype to Goku. Way late in the series, it came out that, even though they have two grown kids and a grandchild, Goku and Chichi never kissed.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Well it wasn't their first kiss.. (and he is 15)

[@davidyoung3792]

@@ReaverPrime dang it, ya beat me to it...

[@SweatpantsJoeGames]

Some kiss 🤔

[@RodimusPrime1982]

He-Man: And remember fans, Kevin Smith's woke failure on Netflix is not canon in any manner shape or form, because Kevin Smith lied. This is He-Man wishing you all Good Health and Good Luck.

[@timothyapplegate2881]

I know you had to deal with a lot of reality getting toys to market, but thanks for letting us fans have the fantasy in some form.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Glad to do anything I could!

[@darknigthangel]

Loved the story. MOTU is one of those lines that easily could be a 10 seasons series, interesting from the beginning to the end without fillers.

[@spectorcreative1872]

If only!

[@Daveyj666]

I found your channel by pure chance today and have loved listening to you talk about the MOTU universe, the classics line and so on. Love you videos and will greatly look forward to future new ones!

[@spectorcreative1872]

Be sure to check out previous videos, we have quite a lot! Welcome to the channel! So glad to have you

[@Bobbyholland901]

I enjoy so much of this content. Thank you for your contribution to it.

[@WarhawkLegend69]

Glad to see that your channel is growing the way it is Scott as i am sure you have so many more interesting stories to tell... Looking forward to the journey that this channel will provide

[@spectorcreative1872]

Topics are always welcome

[@gobucs3146]

Speaking of Mortal Kombat, they need to have He Man and Skeletor in Mortal Kombat.

[@spectorcreative1872]

And have Skeletor rip He-Man's head off

[@ryanhudson2650]

Dude you could go so much further and add battle cat bravestar and the thundercats

[@gobucs3146]

@@ryanhudson2650 Battlecat/Panthor could be a finishing move. They appear and tear the other guy to shreds.

[@SoCaBoYCurtis]

Thank You for clearing this up, I Had the notion that Dare was the Son of Adora and Seahawk... this Story was Great, it closed some doors to the storyline and created new ones, I wish it continued.

[@spectorcreative1872]

While in some of the vintage concepts he was adopted or She-Ra's son, in Classics he was biological

[@woolicane]

Really interesting. Thanks for sharing. Makes me really want the zombie skeletor and resurrection keldor figures, it would be really cool to see him in translucent green.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Oh it would have been such a cool toy!!!

[@NinjaKnight]

It seems like they're adapting some of this for the Netflix series when they mention the final battle between He-Man and Skeletor and we've seen leaked images of a large ram horn Skeletor too. Fascinating dedication you had to the line and your knowledge of comics was a great addition to the line. Such a shame you're not there anymore as you were a great champion for He-Man and MOTU.

[@spectorcreative1872]

I am looking forward to seeing what Netflix does!

[@NinjaKnight]

@@spectorcreative1872 cautiously optimistic. I've noticed in a couple of your videos you spoke about sjws and I agree with you about them. Kevin Smith is a big sjw so that's quite concerning.

[@Bt3615]

"THRAKKA DOOM!" literally made my day!

[@spectorcreative1872]

Yes!

[@knowel7138]

King He-man with life and death consequences that would’ve been an awesome series.

[@spectorcreative1872]

We tried!

[@frankpetersen3090]

Are you crazy. I’d never wanna see a prequel to what we know. It was annoying in the 200x series, and could have done without the scenes from the past. It was stupid.

[@jeddysne]

a direct to DVD series of variant MOTU stories is all we really want

[@spectorcreative1872]

Alas...

[@jamesjustice4515]

Wonderful professional show big guy. Loved it. Good morning to u and ur family. God bless. From the sledgemaster

[@spectorcreative1872]

And to you always Sledge!

[@jamesjustice4515]

@@spectorcreative1872 thanks young man

[@Canoby]

Too bad this didn't get a better reception. This is certainly epic- love all the call backs to the vintage lines (and a few that would have been cool to have)- including the runner up fan designs was a really classy touch too. Gotta love all the lore in this whole franchise.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Yeah I was sad it never met it's full potential

[@helionomicon7455]

Your all MotU history inclusive approach is awesome! That was a fun video!

[@spectorcreative1872]

Thrilled you liked! Please do feel free to share with others online. It helps the channel a ton!

[@JeffTheFutureJaros]

Too bad this didn't happen, I love the look of that Ram Head Skeletor, You have the best vids over insider stories for toys on here, liked and shared as always, much respect Guru.

[@spectorcreative1872]

I so wish it could have happened! Thanks for the kind words as always Jeff!

[@TheWandifan]

Looks like Netflix cgi motu took tge skeletor idea as well. Rebirth skeletor looks just like it. Awesome video. Love learning all this stuff. I thought I knew he man but there is so much more to learn.

[@justinclark397]

He-Man and the Masters of the Universe will probably always be my favorite series especially from when I was a kid. And hearing these stories of all the adventures we never got to see after the series came to a close only further cements that for me.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Maybe this will eventually come about!

[@angeliquaserenity5009]

I am more of a Transformers fan as you know. However, you are such a great storyteller. I enjoy your narrration of the He-Man Lore.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Well thank you! Working on more Transformers videos too! Always open for any topic suggestions.

[@jonathancraddock1810]

It would be awesome to see a film where He-Man is King of Eternia. The undead Skeletor with horns sounds really cool. A good nickname for that version of Skeletor would be Demon Lord Skeletor. This concept has some really interesting ideas in it.

[@spectorcreative1872]

I';d watch that!

[@robledoeugene1975]

Wow now I would love figures of all these new characters, in a perfect world mattel would bring the old crew and keep going with the classics line as you at the head. It's a pipe dream but it's always good to wish, thanks for sharing these amazing stories.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Glad you enjoyed! More to come

[@andrewgrant2990]

Man this would have definitely rocked! Thanks for sharing this sir! Perhaps it will be revisited one day now that the Masters of the Multiverse doors have been opened.

[@spectorcreative1872]

One can hope!

[@TheBigBigSean]

Great video and story line. I can't believe I never heard of The Fall of Eternia.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Well it didn't really go anywhere

[@jokerzwild00]

"Crush them, my revenge squad!" Revenge squad goals.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Pretty much nailed it

[@RhinoRobM]

that's the thing about a good Thrakka Doom, it'll knock the demon right out of ya!

[@spectorcreative1872]

Every time

[@truerogue3916]

Another great video keep up the great work

[@spectorcreative1872]

You keep watching, I'll keep making!

[@juanfelixsoto]

Aaah! The never ending war. Toys keep it alive... Or do they? In my story, they just went home to their regular lives to do the regular things like cleaning the house, checking the oil in their cars, buying food, watching movies, taking care of their pets and so on and so on.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Can you imagine how entertaining that would not be? ;-)

[@juanfelixsoto]

@@spectorcreative1872 Yes, that is the joke, LOL ! I copied it from the Loony Tunes. It was the Coyote and the Dog cartoon. That after playing the dog guarding the sheep and the coyote trying to get some food, they end their working hours by punching the clock. They say "good bey" to each other and ,"see you tomorrow."

[@dannydowd9768]

Whoa whoa whoa wait a second he’s king Randore’s half brother? 😳 I did not know that. Now that makes sense. Like it? I loved it. And I was wondering about that Hero character.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Yup, Keldor and Randor had different moms

[@jamesjustice4515]

Hey young man. This is sledgemaster. I just saw ur wonderful show on star wars. It was great. Now I'm watching this one. Hope u and ur family is ok

[@spectorcreative1872]

Everyone is doing great. Thank you!

[@jamesjustice4515]

@@spectorcreative1872 anytime young man

[@davejones5705]

I just realised that Masters Of The Universe will celebrate it's 40th anniversary next year and somehow that makes me feel older than the fact that I'll turn 42 in 20222!!!

[@spectorcreative1872]

Having lived through the 30th, this is just crazy!

[@TheChadTI]

This concept sounds awesome, sad it never happened.

[@spectorcreative1872]

At least parts of it got picked up!

[@tonyjackson4078]

I really like that there is always a He-Man even if it's not Prince Adam. Oolar, Vikor, He-Ro, and Dare show that cool trope of legacy heroes.

[@mikechason466]

I can't stand that. There's only one He Man

[@tonyjackson4078]

@@mikechason466 that's fair. I just come from the direction of Transformers where it's almost ALWAYS Optimus Prime as the protagonist.

[@spectorcreative1872]

It is a fun way to go and get as many toys as possible

[@mikechason466]

@@spectorcreative1872 but it takes away from the He Man we know

[@jesseperry9602]

Man...I don't know what it is, but that King He-Man design with the crown, the beard, the scar, the breastplate....it's my absolutely favorite look of He-Man. It just looks so totally badass!

[@spectorcreative1872]

Well the Horsemen get full credit!

[@PestmeisterTairach]

Looks somehow like King Conan

[@ElBlogiante]

Would be great if those DC stories (Like MOTU vs Thundercats) got made into animated movies.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Ummmm. YEAH!

[@richardstrickland8454]

Thanks again for another awesome video! Do you or anyone else out there have a list of which Classics figures include the mini-comics and what order to read them in? The Dark Horse mini-comic collection leaves you hanging BIG TIME and it doesn't look like they're going to reprint the rest of the Classics issues any time soon!

[@spectorcreative1872]

I'll do a video on this in the near future!

[@RetroActionUK]

Shadows Of The Empire was from 1996, as Kenner was still around then.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Point taken

[@xeppozanfilms]

Amazing insight into line as always. Thank you

[@spectorcreative1872]

So glad you continue to enjoy! Share online, it helps the channel a ton!

[@xeppozanfilms]

@@spectorcreative1872 I actually shared a video with my class the other day as the one of many examples for them to get an idea of the asssignment I wanted them to do in editing

[@manofaction1807]

Bring it back. Make it happen.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Talk to Mattel! ;-P

[@Beedo_Sookcool]

Very nifty stuff! Was "Fall of Eternia" Skeletor's glowing-bones left arm and torso going to be part of the figure? That would've REALLY reignited the "Is Scare Glow a dead Skeletor?" war! 🤣

[@spectorcreative1872]

And what great toys they would make

[@subraxas]

Just a little correction: 'Shadows of the Empire' were launched in 1996, not 1998.

[@kaassoufflex9023]

I would have loved to be part of creating the continuing narrative as some details kinda bother me. But it's great seeing a continuation nonetheless. Oh and I would call that version of Skeletor Horny Skeletor.. You're welcome to use it. :-p

[@spectorcreative1872]

Well that is up to Mattel, not me

[@paulofernandesroberto9336]

Great storyline! It changes things but it keeps the original spirit of the adventures! We need more stories like that... That change over time and become different. That's why, while I love comics, I find myself not believing in large events and things that really shake the status quo.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Exactly what we were going for.

[@codyhoney9101]

I'm really digging Adora as a villain. The fact that a good Masters of the Universe movie/live action show our video game hasn't been made is a travesty.

[@spectorcreative1872]

A true travesty. See here for more: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bWmwmmOVdpubnq8

[@tompollockjr144]

In that big splash where Skeleteen is Fighting He-Ro, who is the Red armored TrapJaw/Clawful looking guy in the bottom right behind Beastman and Evil Lyn? That's a badass design.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Missle Toe

[@tompollockjr144]

@@spectorcreative1872 wait... Literally? I'm searching it on Google but I can't find anything. Is that the only panel he was ever in?

[@xeppozanfilms]

He-man should have a video game... If not a fighting game, a game that plays like devil may cry.

[@AT-gk1tw]

A fighting game like soul caliber would be incredible.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Make it happen Universal!

[@spiderfan1974]

There were games the states only got one of them. The atari game but there has been multiple MOTU games. Three I know of off the top of my head.

[@trence5]

Damn, juuuuust couldn't let him rest in, oh wait he's just a puppet? Well at least Keldor's soul is at peace I hope.

[@spectorcreative1872]

One could hope...

[@Inamon8]

Speaking of MOTU projects; this subject is kinda like the myth of a 'Robotech' live-action movie. However, there were rumours of a live-action MOTU movie and they even had a brunette dude cast for He-man 2 years ago or somewhere around that time. Do you have any insight on who's out there lobbying for a MOTU live-action flick, nowadays? A small update video would be awesome on what and who tried to bring this to fruition! Thanx man, your videos brought new life/ light to the whole MOTU-Universe!

[@spectorcreative1872]

See my motu movie video on this channel!

[@cinnamonbun1379]

What do you think of the multiverse concept Mattel's using now?

[@spectorcreative1872]

I think it is the way to go. There are too many different versions at this point to make everything make sense in one continuity.

[@StergiosMekras]

@@spectorcreative1872 If done poorly, Multiverses are cheesy. If done right, they can make a setting so much more.

[@psibernight2177]

2:25 Holy Cow, that's Skelegod! I wonder how this relates to the Kevin Smith/Netflix version.

[@spectorcreative1872]

A design worth not loosing

[@mechtech220]

props for the Chinua Achebe book cover!

[@spectorcreative1872]

And the full book just as good!

[@christophermoody6840]

Wow Mattel won that Conan lawsuit? King He-Man!? Like King Conan. Thraka Doom sounds like Thulsa Doom. Even that picture of King He-Man on his throne looks like the ending of Conan where Arnold is sitting on his throne and the narrator says 'He wore his crown upon a troubled brow".

[@spectorcreative1872]

Its good to be the king

[@Starrgroove]

Hi, Scott. Forgive the nitpick, but SotE is from 1996. It figured big into the release of the Nintendo 64 in North America. Not sure about you, but I look at 1996 as the final year of unity between Star Wars fans. Once the Special Editions dropped in '97, the schism noticeably widened.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Point taken! I can't nitpick without being nitpicked myself

[@WraithTDK]

I love these lore videos. Do you consider the story you crafted for MOTU classics to be in its own continuity, or a follow-up on one of the previous lines ( mini comics, DC, Filmation, 200x etc.)?

[@spectorcreative1872]

It was designed to be a follow up to 200X. See here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3q0gHeEic2hrMU

[@WraithTDK]

@@spectorcreative1872 Yea, I'm just going to go back and binge-watch all your stuff. I keep clicking from one link to the other anyway. Might as well do it in order!

[@craigspeck7203]

I Just got the New 52 MOTU Omnibus, it's really cool. I like the story of your mini comics better, but still a worthwhile read.

[@spectorcreative1872]

I appreciate that! And I do like the DC comics, I hope they also reprint the mini comics too!

[@craigspeck7203]

@@spectorcreative1872 That would be awesome, I would definitely buy it.

[@rodrickadamginsburg8960]

King He-Man is one of my absolute favorites!

[@spectorcreative1872]

Me too! I love that we did a figure of him!

[@Tjrush-rm4jj]

Mighty Man's fist at the 11:00 minute mark? LOL!

[@spectorcreative1872]

Yup

[@mysteryneophyte]

smell the wrath of skeletors breakfast burrito

[@spectorcreative1872]

No... not the burrito!

[@nbriez-c5914]

Why would they scuplt a Clawful mini before Skeletor?

[@spectorcreative1872]

Skeletor came out in the original SDCC pack

[@nbriez-c5914]

@@spectorcreative1872 oh lol you did say that didnt you

[@espendahl9719]

I enjoyed this story,too bad the project fell apart.Would love an open platform gaming of beeing He-Man,Skeletor and other MOTU characters in Eternia / Etheria and Space.Choosing good guys or bad guys story.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Would have been cool!

[@xeppozanfilms]

Notice Keldor has a moral compass when he returns where Skeletor does not. Is it possible demo man while not in mental control / able to block off empathy , compassion, and so forth?

[@spectorcreative1872]

Exactly

[@xeppozanfilms]

@@spectorcreative1872 If familiar with Angel by Joss Whedon... its similiar to Angel when he has his soul vs Angelus without his soul.

[@superomegaprimemk2]

I think now is a good time for He-man to return as there is interest in the fantasy genre as long it's handled right, thou I would keep the sci-fi elements to a minimum and focus more on the fantasy side of things aka magic and the various creatures at least to start with, bring sci-fi stuff in later on to be a game changer for the heroes to learn to adapt to!

[@spectorcreative1872]

Lets see how the new shows do!

[@jerelmercurio4754]

King He man looks great. If the original chestplate symbol is used not the H. Ram head skeletor is the worst yet. Back to the original with him and his voice.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Well at least DC used him

[@jerelmercurio4754]

@@spectorcreative1872 Definetly. At least it continued but further from the original mark the shorter the run. The original was closest to the ancient mythologies that we subconsciously gravitate towards. When you see them all from ancient to modern as the same. Them we know he man is weak good. Hordak is weaker wicked but Skeletor is strong evil, judgment for the wickness. Not making the 3 fold distinction killed MOTU.

[@stevenbrickafol3928]

A message to DC and to you Scott ....I do respect you and what you have done for the Classics line , but... : Stop Killing Off My Childhood Heroes. NEVER kill off Childhood Heroes. Not even the Evil Ones.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Well... see here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fWXWlX6Ao7qpaZY

[@Kypduron1]

I want these all these comics badly but they are so hard to find!!

[@spectorcreative1872]

Let DC know you want them to do a trade!

[@Kypduron1]

@@spectorcreative1872 I managed to get part 3 of the Dark Horse one, 7 more to go.

[@tezlascube]

Hey Spector Creative, haven't watched this video yet, but I found an old Mattel slideshow presentation in a portfolio online. In it looks to be He-Man reboot art circa 2013-2014. Still learning a lot about this franchise, but any clue on what this was supposed to be? (unless it's addressed in the video) cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/404726414898626564/754953493072314408/unknown.png

[@spectorcreative1872]

This is concept art done to help show potential film makers what MOTU could look like in live action

[@tezlascube]

@@spectorcreative1872 Oh wow, it's a very different look.

[@darkwoods1954]

The Star Seed coming from a literal tree was a bit on the nose.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Right!

[@frankpetersen3090]

Scott is very informative. Love these videos . Scott please tell me it wasn’t your idea to give us the NA characters in the classics line? They’re worthless and wish I was not forced into buying that crap.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Well my idea was to do EVERYONE in the MOTUC line to make the most amount of toys

[@johnmorey720]

I think the main difficulty with giving MOTU a big retail presence again (and the current retro line isn't really a "big" presence, let's be honest) is how much it is n '80s brand tied to nostalgia. It's ultimately less adaptable than others from that period, such as GI Joe or Transformers - the styles, the character names, everything is tied to that early-'80s toy atmosphere. It's harder to "update," and because its pre-existing fanbase is so insular and nostalgia-driven, you CAN'T update the designs without pushback. So you're stuck with a very specific phenomenon from a specific era for specific people - one can think of other trends that were huge in their time and are still thought well of, but just haven't made the "epic" comeback people would expect. (I like ram horn Skeletor, BTW)

[@spectorcreative1872]

/oh yes you are right on. And with all the interest in "Big Muscle Heroes" in the 80's we just don't have that cultural backdrop anymore

[@noahhenson1669]

Wow! I've never seen this storyline, as it is not featured in the Dark Horse Mini-Comics Collection or anywhere on-line. It's a doozy!

[@spectorcreative1872]

Yeah I wish Dc would do a reprint

[@noahhenson1669]

@@spectorcreative1872 Ok, wait... are they mini-comics or were they published by DC? I are confoozled.

[@timx8872]

8:20 “But that’s not important right now!” Airplane reference?

[@spectorcreative1872]

Shirly you must be kidding?

[@timx8872]

@@spectorcreative1872 I'm not kidding. And don't call me Shirley.

[@AutobotWonko]

Have the Classics mini-comics ever been collected into a book like the old mini-comics?

[@spectorcreative1872]

Only issues 1-3 in the DH coffee table book. DC has the other 5. Let them know if you want to see this

[@Rquiem]

Thanks again for a great video. I've heard and always thought that when the popular 2002 cartoon came around, Mattel had huge problems getting toys out. When they finally came out, it was too late. The cartoon ended when the toys came, and sales were low from the start. Also having way too many heman's instead of a nice mix of figures. Any insight on this?

[@spectorcreative1872]

See here! kzbin.info/www/bejne/fWS6naqLbs5gmKM

[@GraphicSushi]

Are the comics referenced in this video available anywhere?

[@spectorcreative1872]

They came with the MOTUC figures, usually the subscription figure. DC has yet to collect them

[@wretchedthe638]

Great story But one thing puts me unliking it,was the origins of dare i think i have read 2 one was this version and the other one is, he was an adopted son of he man.

[@spectorcreative1872]

He was an adopted son in one of the unused pitches in the 80's. For Classics he was biological

[@scockery]

He-Man needs to skip fighting Skeletor and any other evil and kick the Cosmic Enforcers' asses instead. As long as they exist, there can be no victory.

[@spectorcreative1872]

This is the way

[@Norseraider84]

So.... the Burger King is actually HeMan ! 😍

[@spectorcreative1872]

How did you know!

[@pantherpawz]

Do you think Mattel will ever release a motu line as good as classics?

[@spectorcreative1872]

No.

[@officialtruvotru-druvevoch7049]

So Skeletor became A God & Destroys Eternia!

[@spectorcreative1872]

More or less

[@joverbey123456789]

Are all the mini comics collected in Graphic novel format ? I would really like to read all these

[@spectorcreative1872]

I wish! Let DC know if this is something you want!

[@joverbey123456789]

Ok it is time to get that campaign started, for sure. Thanks

[@bryanfowler8717]

I appreciate what Toy Guru has brought to the MOTU line while their Brand Manager but this all reads like bad fan fiction. It's sole purpose seems top be to build some type of continuity but trying to tie together what made MOTU awesome from the beginning with many bad and failed followups is not a good idea in my opinion.

[@spectorcreative1872]

The goal was to create a story that would justify the greatest number of potential toys, not necessarily be amazing fiction

[@BainesMkII]

While it may be viewed as cruel to the creators, I'd forgotten just how awful I felt later MotU toy designs were. Rather than convince me to buy yet another version of He-Man, designs like Laser Power He-Man were to me instead ill-conceived desperate last gasps from a now (then) irrelevant and dying line. Though I admit that I was a sucker for Battle Damage He-Man and Skeletor. (I will also run against the commenter consensus by saying that I'm not fond of the ram head Skeletor design, though maybe when I was a kid I'd have liked it.)

[@spectorcreative1872]

Well those guys wound up being pretty iconic!

[@mikeyjhilli]

Legit question: I'm a bit confused on the timeline here. Caption says 2014 which is 2 years after the 30th anniversary tribute, which you noted. After quick D.D. this idea you are talking about is taking about is shortly after Classic's run.

[@spectorcreative1872]

The design work was done in 2012 for a 2014 release

[@brandoman79]

Is this story arc part of the reason why She-Ra and He-Man are now separate? If I am the IP owner of She-Ra, do I really want my star character connected to He-Man when her ultimate fate is that she is a major villain. Or was there going to be a redemption arc for Adora? As sure He-Man and Teela get together and have a kid. Skeletor and Evil Lynn get together and have a kid. But what was the end goal for Adora? Was she simply going to remain a brainwashed minion to Horde Prime? Was she going to remain a major villain? Or was the ultimate plan to have her become She-Ra again? What of her and Bo? Did they marry? Did they have children? Again while the villain character of Adora looks cool, as someone who is also a She-Ra fan it kind of sucks that she is made a villain and there really is no redemption to her.

[@spectorcreative1872]

No, this is totally unrelated to Classic Media’s separation of the brands

[@brandoman79]

@@spectorcreative1872 Thank you for taking the time to answer my question. Was there a plan to eventually redeem Adora? Or was she going to be a villain to her brother in the similar fashion Skeletor was the villain to his brother?

[@AudioAndroid]

That would of been awesome I would of loved that! As a Fan and inspiring Writer/Comic Artist I have had ideas of my own that deal with a alternate HE-MAN Universe where Skeletor Won. I have always wondered if HE-MAN had a "G.I.JOE Worlds Without End" type Storyline like other Cartoon Series seem to have periodically. In my HE-MAN Universe Story we would deal with the Alternative HE-MAN Universe that was created when Gwildor as a favor and good deed used his Cosmic Key to send Julie Winston (played by Courtney Cox) and Kevin Corrigan (played by Robert Duncan) back to Earth but a little further back in time in order for her to save her parents from a Airplane Crash. With this small action Gwildor created a new Universe where the same events have played out on his World but this time back on Earth Julie and Kevin would not be there to bump into HE-MAN, MAN-AT-ARM'S and TEELA to lend a helping hand and without Kevins' Musical Talents (HE-MAN Movie Spoiler) there would be noone there to remember the Tune that would allow the Cosmic Key to send our friends back home to stop Skeletor. In this Universe the Parents of Julie are still alive and that one single change would cause a different situation for Julie to grow up in and sending her and Kevin down a different path. In this Universe HE-MAN and his friends would remain trapped on Earth much longer then before allowing Skeletor time to finish draining the Sorceress Power and conquering Castle Greyskull and Eternia. Now sometime later HE-MAN and his friends would eventually find the Magic of a Keyboard and a way back home but this time no Time Traveling just a port back to Eternia's Present Time where they would find a destroyed Eternia, a Captured Castle Greyskull and a band of Rebels fighting to regain control and defeat Skeletor to become MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE!

[@spectorcreative1872]

One of the great things about MOTU is there is room for many interpretations

[@Cowboytoycollector]

Going to comiXology for some more could watch this all day love he mans underdog story how everything just came together through the years toys comics creators

[@spectorcreative1872]

So glad you are enjoying. And topic suggestions always welcomed!

[@paluxyl.8682]

The story of "The Fall of Eternia" is good , but would not work well for a toy playline . Kids would need figures in many stage , for example in the case of Skeletor : Skeletor (normal) , Keldor with damaged face , Demo-man , Skeletor with horns , glowing Keldor ..... 5 figures of the same character are too much , if I would be a kid and would own all the 5 figures I would only use the normal Skeletor to play .

[@spectorcreative1872]

The version shown here from the comics is not what the retail line would have been. It was adapted for MOTUC using some of the key ideas

[@docsavage4921]

So that's where the comics got ram horn Skeletor and King He-Man from.. The writers are known for doing their own thing in a lot of adaptations, wasn't sure how much leeway they were given here. King He-Man ended up being a very small part of it though... Just a future vision of a corrupted Prince Adam who turns fascist dictator, that lasted about half a comic.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Yup. These designs were meant for something else

[@docsavage4921]

@@spectorcreative1872 Speaking of DC comics adaptations, I read through some of the mini comics, and noticed Teela started off with blond hair, switched to red in future mini comics without explanation. Now Keith Giffen's bit where his blonde beauty Teela shows up as a redhead and everyone acts confused on why she doesn't want to talk about it makes sense. :)

[@anarkymx4346]

Can explain who is the great black wizard?

[@spectorcreative1872]

I have a video on that in the works

[@anarkymx4346]

@@spectorcreative1872 Thanks Scott

[@adamofgrayskull7735]

How can despara get another storyline I don't get it

[@spectorcreative1872]

Well her original story was dropped and we found new ways to use her

[@AintNobodyAtAll]

I love everything that furthers the storyline, but I have a negative reaction to anything that makes Eternia, Grayskull, the Sword, and everything related less important. If Trolla was so important and is the source of everything, why aren't we just telling stories there? It's like Eternia is second-rate in its own mythos.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Sometimes stories set on Mount Olympus are not the most interesting. That is what Greek Myths take place on Earth

[@AintNobodyAtAll]

@@spectorcreative1872 Fascinating.

[@rolandkatsuragi]

12:53 Don't they share the Veena as a common ancestor though?

[@spectorcreative1872]

Yes.

[@knightwolfpro4494]

All of these great plans for the Masters of the Universe story line, and now we get to wait to see how Kevin Smith Ruins it.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Go Kevin go

[@vanceamania]

Oh what could have been

[@spectorcreative1872]

Indeed

[@jeremysnead9233]

Too bad you could not merge Hanna-Barbera, Rankin/Bass, and Filmation Universes. Goltar, Herculoids, Thundarr, Mightor, Pirates of Dark Water, Black Star, Brave Star, Motu, Silver Hawks, Tiger Sharks, and Thunder Cats.

[@StergiosMekras]

And all that, done in the ThunderCats 2011 style (which already combined ThunderCats, SilverHawks, and Tiger Sharks).

[@spectorcreative1872]

My powers are only so great

[@Halbared]

Ethereal is the antonym of corporeal.

[@spectorcreative1872]

Of course!

[@Halbared]

@@spectorcreative1872 Good vid, mucho enjoyed it. My favourite He-Man is the orignal mini-comic, but I do have a fondness for the filmation cartoon as welll.