Indigenous Weapons and Tactics of King Philip's War

Native American living historians Drew Shuptar-Rayvis and Dylan Smith help me explore the military history of King Philip's War from the indigenous perspective.
Special thanks to Jonathan of ‪@TheFarOffStation‬!
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~REFERENCES~
[1] Richard Slotkin & James K. Folsom. So Dreadful a Judgment: Puritan Responses to King Philip's War, 1676-1677 (1978). Wesleyan University Press, Page 60-63
[2] Slotkin & Folsom, Page 244
[3] Benjamin Church. Entertaining Passages Relating to King Philip’s War, Tercentenary Edition (1975). Pequot Press, Page 148
[4] Church, Page 156
[5] Slotkin & Folsom, Page 325

[@DaytimeAce]

As an Indigenous person (Atikameksheng Anishinaabe), it's really important for me to see you bring in our voices to conversations like this. It's too often that we're talked about abstractly by people who don't understand who we are and what we come from, so it's really nice to see you bring in Indigenous voices! Meegwetch!

[@deatman5843]

I agree. I'm an indigenous person as well (Gwichyaa Gwichʼin from Alaska) and I'm really happy to see indigenous voices brought into historical conversation. This video was very well done, and I feel the subject matter was handled with a lot of respect. Much of North American history is indigenous history as well, and it makes me happy to see it given consideration.

[@cleothehermetichermeticist8391]

I’m very much only a small part native, but as somebody who does study subjects like pagan religion and Indian history getting the perspective of a member of a community is something that’s extremely important. A lot of content creators and authors don’t even bother, but the fact that Andy goes out of his way to contact academic members of marginalized community is why he’s one of the best history channels on KZbin.

[@Conn30Mtenor]

@@deatman5843 the wheel turns, however slowly.

[@Lucidius134]

@@deatman5843 This always urks me when it comes to watching a lot of content on youtube so i'm glad to see Atun-shei give Drew and Dylan his platform for this, i am looking to see if they have their own channels now. Awesome stuff

[@PeterBlackBear]

Seconded wholeheartedly from the Siletz Reservation out in Oregon (Hanis Coos & Sha’yuushtła in my particular case). We don’t do a lot of living history on this coast, but Dylan and Drew are inspiring. Makes me wish I had reached out to them when I lived back east.

[@ryanapps903]

Atun-Shei, as an AP US History teacher, I must say that your videos have continued to be a source of inspiration for my lesson planning and personally enjoyable to no end. I make sure that King Philip's war is thoroughly addressed as a case study for Colonial-Native relations during Unit 2. We do a document analysis on it trying to unravel the causes of the conflict and the change it brought to both Native and English psyche. Keep it up, man.

[@stormstaunch6692]

@ryanapps903 As a high school student myself who just took US History last semester, I encourage you to show this video in your class, if at all possible. Atun-Shei makes amazing content, and I’m sure your students (or atleast the ones who don’t spend the whole time scrolling through TikTok on their phones lol) would enjoy this video.

[@dreamcrusher112]

@@stormstaunch6692 Laudable but few teachers have 35 minutes spare in their curricula to put in a nice video like this. I'm sure has thought about using excerpts.

[@SonsOfLorgar]

@@dreamcrusher112 they can easily replace one of the old misinformed school videos from the 1970ies-1990ies.

[@teslashark]

I sure wish there's videos like this back in my AP class!

[@connorperrett9559]

@@dreamcrusher112 My APUSH teacher played the entirety of Dances With Wolves one week. Plenty of Shakespeare films getting played in one of my English classes, too. Teachers love putting films on because they get a moment of peace.

[@DahcipheR]

The dichotomy of firearm usage between Europe and the Americas was fascinating, and something I never even thought of. Fantastic video!

[@ANWRocketMan]

Similar thing happened in the Boer war(s) in Southern Africa. The Boer (and many free native peoples) hunted for a living. They were well acquinted with using firearms in comparison to city and farm biys from England who only learned to use their guns recently before the wars.

[@andrewfischer8564]

@@ANWRocketMan why baden powell invented the boy scouts

[@eazy8579]

European armies were larger and had more of an emphasis on shock assaults and their defense, as well as cannons and fortifications, and as such polearms were still quite prominent right up until the socket bayonet was invented, and as such, Linear tactics and a combined arms were far more prominent than the the more fluid and dynamic warfare where the bayonet and the gun was more critical, especially when the terrain hindered said charges and shock tactics, and so longer ranged engagements with a foe who was skilled at hunting, skirmishing, and marksmanship

[@rogermwilcox]

I'm led to wonder if one of the reasons the European farming class wasn't allowed access to firearms was out of fear of a peasant uprising.

[@margotpreston]

@@rogermwilcox Quite likely that was one of the reasons yeah.

[@walkingcontradiction223]

"A river that forgets it's source dries up." Thank you for this video, it was outstanding. Certainty glad that no Englishmen were harmed during its filming.

[@sorenrising5880]

It's so rare to see the voices of communities involved in historical events centered in modern discussions of them. Keep doing what you do! Few people think to treat King Philip's War with the weight it deserves for all the lives it tore apart.

[@konradvonschnitzeldorf6506]

I mean this is nice and super interesting and those two men had great insight because of how much they know. But the "communities involved" don't exist anymore. An italian isn't more fit to talk about roman history then a german per se.

[@sorenrising5880]

@@konradvonschnitzeldorf6506 Unfortunately, that is very true. I missed their exact origin (the downsides of multitasking).

[@kylewilliams8114]

@@konradvonschnitzeldorf6506 I think that's a little overstating the case. The communities involved were highly reliant on oral histories, which were passed down to the current members of the communities. Context is important for much of anthropology, and speaking with descendants of a community where preservation of culture is important is far more informative than speaking with unrelated people, even if they may be well studied.

[@AtunSheiFilms]

​@@konradvonschnitzeldorf6506 It depends on the community. The Wampanoag are still around (Mashpee and Martha's Vineyard), as are the Nipmuc (they have a cultural center in Groton MA, if I recall correctly). Though others, like the Penacook, the Pocumtuc, and the Massachusett, have either gone extinct or melded into broader New England culture so thoroughly that, while there's some continuity there in terms of kinship and tradition, they're not really distinct communities anymore.

[@Bildgesmythe]

I'm in Canada. The communities still exist. They are still finding the bodies of children who were the victims of colonial atrocities, up to modern times.

[@LevenoZBS]

I live in Mexico and I hope you can read me. Your videos help beyond what you think. The heritage of colonialism is lived daily here and it is a story that, watching your videos, I learn that all the lands that were once colonies share. We have hard stories, understood only from the point of view of two extreme absurdities. Your videos remind me of the importance of starting to see our past with more mature eyes, it is our responsibility. I will keep that last sentence about “the origin of the river” for the rest of my life. Thank you.

[@natebox4550]

Talking about Mexico, some Aztec stuff would be really cool, albeit it’s in an entirely different country.

[@purpleslog]

@@natebox4550 I would use the word “interesting” not the word “cool”.

[@Paragoth]

I think I read you perfectly, thank you for sharing.

[@natebox4550]

@@purpleslog Why? I mean they both work perfectly fine in the sentence, one is more formal sounding maybe. But this is a KZbin comment section, it ain’t formal here.

[@purpleslog]

@@natebox4550 the word cool has a positive connotation. The Aztecs were a terrible horrible society mean by the standards of that day. So I find them interesting, I don’t find them to be cool I never fine towers of skulls, mass executions, and torture killings to be cool.

[@IndigenousHistoryNow]

“Without Native history there is no history.” Such a true statement. You cannot fully understand why the US and Canada are the nations they are today without a knowledge of their histories with indigenous peoples

[@blacksnapper7684]

I disagree with this, without native history there is not NATIVE history, our history is different from theirs because we are not of the same people

[@tauempire1793]

​@@blacksnapper7684 I counter this because of how intertwined native history is with European settler history. Without native history our history that we know of wouldn't be anything the same in the slightest.

[@supereliptic]

@@blacksnapper7684No, that’s not correct. You can argue that point from perhaps the very late 19th century onwards but to try to suggest that the history of Native Americans and European settlers are separate and distinct is absurd. Who presented the challenge against manifest destiny if not Native Americans. Who were the various colonies fighting with when they weren’t fighting themselves? Native Americans. Also, let’s not kid ourselves that the fact that the entire columban exchange, the meeting of European people with the native Americans of the 1490’s who had been isolated for 10,000 years up to that point wasn’t enormously historically significant. It is one of THE most significant event in the history of humanity EVER given its effect on both parties. If you doubt that I’d suggest a book called ‘1493’ which documents this from the year following Columbus’ historic voyage.

[@TheRealBatCave]

It would have been cool if the indigenous tribes had any type of written language, documenting thier history such as wars, history life in general ​@tauempire1793

[@duaneelliott5194]

​@@TheRealBatCavewe did but europeans destroyed most of it.

[@BrandonF]

The natives being better equipped than the colonists is really surprising to me, given my late-18th Century-onwards perspective. This was a fantastic video! Drew is a really nice guy. Jon deserved it.

[@Tareltonlives]

When was the Doglock replaced, by the way? Was the Land Pattern Musket the first "true" flintlock of the British army, or were there earlier versions?

[@watchm4ker]

@@Tareltonlives Technically yes, but not for the reason you'd think. There *wasn't* a standard firearm for the British Army prior to the Brown Bess - Each regiment was responsible for procuring its own weapons and equipment, and it often came down to the individual gunsmiths to settle on a 'pattern' firearm that the Regiment would keep for reference. So while regiments could obtain better weapons, they often were stuck with whatever they'd settled on years or decades earlier, regardless of any innovations.

[@TakedaIesyu]

Dude, this is like some high-quality pre-2010 History Channel content. Thank you for bringing Drew and Dylan in to tell their peoples' stories!

[@narm_greyrunner]

I'm so old I remember when the History Channel used to show documentaries.

[@warandpoetry9542]

“No Englishmen were harmed in the making off this documentary. A Dutchman got sick and somebody shot a Scot, but that’s it.”

[@coreystockdale6287]

Wait Scots are people?

[@karlwilhelmmeinert7592]

@@coreystockdale6287 Nobody stated that.

[@machinist7230]

@@coreystockdale6287 the rest of you heathens are mere people, The children of Alba are G*d's chosen. 😉😆

[@paulastiles5507]

So, business as usual, then.

[@mikepette4422]

no dogs and no irish allowed

[@owaingray3480]

It's awesome to see the native side of King Philip's War and it's even better that you got these two amazing, very knowledgeable guys to tell it too. I've wanted to see a video like this from you for a while now and having this pop up in my subscription box was like a dream come true. Amazing work as always dude.

[@jonathanvilario5402]

Dude, PLEASE do more indiginous history videos! So much of it is under looked, and it's vital we learn and remember the era of colonialism in America

[@TheRealBatCave]

Wouldn't it be cool if they developed a written language and recorded thier history, imagine being able to read about the last few thousand years on the continent

[@Terra-YT]

Wow Atun-Shei Films this might be my favourite video of yours yet. You're a total inspiration and actually because of seeing your success I've decided to start making videos too! Keep grinding, your hard work clearly pays off!

[@FilthyBritain]

w

[@onions3617]

good man!

[@nsd935]

Came for Lincoln, stayed for King Philip!

[@zxggwrt]

AS is a phenomenal interviewer

[@jeffreygao3956]

Checkmate Lincolnites!

[@archer260]

If you brought these guys back to talk about the French Indian War - maybe a deep dive on tactics, the forts, or the movie Last of the Mohicans - I'd damn well watch it. Great guests on the channel, well informed, and awesome chemistry between the four of you.

[@jeffreygao3956]

Prompt: 1936 or 1992?

[@davidmilton5887]

Wrong. These dudes wouldn't know about it. The real indians are "black". The Narragansett tribe fought with the French. The Narragansetts are still here,andxare still "black". The Narragansetts look just like Negroes. Hmmm.

[@civilwarwildwest]

Holy crap! This is next level! The natives with their kicks regalia, the cinematography, the lingering shots of musket smoke... Good deal, man!

[@one_victory6145]

Love your work. Indigenous history is a wonderful invitation to think from a more nuanced perspective. Instead of the common 'good guys vs bad guys' narrative, indigenous history reminds us that reality is messy and complex. We need more people bringing them to light. Thanks for letting me listen.

[@Greggah]

Yeah, it didnt seem like they pretended the natives were angels and the europeans always assholes- it were people with very different cultures and values, but still very human and sharing a lot of behaviours.

[@one_victory6145]

​​@@Greggah Yup. While I still believe a great historical wrong was done to the indigenous people of America (which the United States should answer for), we tend to overlook their fire, blood, and awe-inspiring triumphs in favor of a white-washed version of history that paints them as passive agents of history. Native Americans are either innocent kumbaya nature hippies, or hopeless victims in modern media. The truth is (I personally believe) native Americans are not a monolithic entity, and they were not 'passive' victims. The native Americans were a diverse group of people with agency, and they certainly did not take settler encroachment lying down. In a way, learning their nuances reminds me of re-learning who the Vikings were. They tell me that the people of the past were as colorful as the people today.

[@jeffreygao3956]

That is true but the English/British were still the invaders with the indigenous people defending their homeland.

[@SirToaster9330]

Well to be fair, the problem is that is that neutrality when one side is objectively wrong is biased

[@barbaros99]

Drew reminds me of all the best history teachers I've even had. He has an infectious energy that just pulls you along and makes you want to listen to everything he has to say.

[@tiduswhiteblade8535]

“This is Johnathan.” Johnathan: “Hello everyone, I’m-“ “Shut up, Johnathan! Shut up!” I haven’t laughed like that in a while 😂😂😂

[@reesetorwad8346]

lol, A-S should have said, "bup bup bup, torsos don't talk!"

[@jony4real]

Killing Johnathan was a bold choice, but snubbing him by pointing out his "authentic" polyester jacket? Savage!!!

[@GrudgeyCable]

Been nice to have an authentic and respected European perspective as well to show in comparison.

[@Dave01Rhodes]

@@GrudgeyCableI think the historical accounts fill that role pretty well.

[@GrudgeyCable]

@@Dave01Rhodes it would still have been nice to see it done and done well. There are some out there who do this reenacting or living history but king Philips war isn’t the napoleonic wars. So seeing more of it in the video as a comparison I think would have been awesome. Or maybe just a video about that separately. Would enjoy it equally as much.

[@somedipshtinthecomments2507]

I feel like too often the Algonquin people are framed almost as a natural hazard when talking about colonial New England, a 'foil' to the English Colonists, rather than the actual complex society of peoples (replete with their own distinct and nuanced culture and collective motivations) that they were and still are. Drew and Dylan did a wonderful job of articulating the indigenous perspective of the period in a way I'd not encountered before, especially with regards to viewing colonialism and the plight of Indigenous peoples as process which is still ongoing even today. I'm very much looking forward to spotting Drew in 'The Sudbury Devil'! Great stuff lads!

[@christibor8821]

I’ve watched through all of Atun-Shei’s content a few times now and the one issue I have with it is that there isn’t enough.

[@welcometochiles6156]

Hahaha, I might be months late but I second this

[@colinfinnell2673]

I spent all of my undergrad in archeology studying indigenous use of firearms and military tactics. I wish this video was available back then as a resource for me! Fantastic work really.

[@FuzzyKittenBoots]

I love this video so much. So well filmed, so interesting and informative and also such great fun!

[@AtunSheiFilms]

Thanks!!

[@Brunavargen]

Absolutely wonderful video! Always a pleasure when you post another King Philip’s War one. Could we expect more videos on the native perspective?

[@AtunSheiFilms]

Yes, for sure.

[@matthewjroth8355]

@@AtunSheiFilmsyes please. Bless you for your work

[@Brunavargen]

@@AtunSheiFilms I cannot wait!

[@TomCantDance]

This was a fascinating watch and really well presented by Drew and Dylan as well. It's brilliant to get an indigenous person's view on these events in history and really opened my eyes to a lot of things.

[@thomaskennedy7512]

You guys are out here providing the gold-standard for what youtube documentaries should be. Not to mention continuing to bring further awareness to King Philip's War! Awesome work man, easily one of the best!

[@chipsdubbo5.56]

As a native American in the US (I have my CIB with the Kaw tribe; formerly the Kanza which is what Kansas is named after. I'm also part potawatomi) this is very interesting and I'll enjoy watching this

[@pinchevulpes]

Your CIB doesn’t make you native your language and culture does.

[@chipsdubbo5.56]

@@pinchevulpes so anybody that learns the language and culture is automatically native American regardless of blood?

[@pinchevulpes]

@@chipsdubbo5.56 you and I both know and outsider would never take the time to do that and if they did welcome aboard lol

[@pinchevulpes]

@@chipsdubbo5.56 but if you want to be a jackass about it each individual tribe determines their own membership roll. CIB is a federally mandated document that prescribes a quantum of blood to your ancestry. They were created with the express purpose of tracking if American Indians go extinct. There’s no other ethnic group of person in the US that has such a document that prescribes such a blood quantum

[@chipsdubbo5.56]

@@pinchevulpes let me ask this: are you native American by blood? CIB is a good way to prove it. Because I've met a lot of people that like to claim they are native but are "1/16th Cherokee" so a CIB is usually a good way to at least prove you have Indian blood. And I used that to get financial aid in college so it does have some meaning as far as proving your ancestry. Weather you are part of the culture or not is a different story. I'm honestly not sure what got you so triggered lol

[@Kaliburrrr]

Mi’kmaq here, thanks for actually covering our history!!!! ❤

[@jkaiser169]

Mi'kmaq here also. Family is from Nova Scotia on my mom side.

[@S3lkie-Gutz]

fellow mi’kmaw represent✊🏽in canada we have a significant military history as well, even in the modern world. for example today there’s a large number of enlisted mi’kmaq soldiers fighting in the frontlines of ukraine as well as a significant number of soldiers who fought in wwii from Miwapek first nation

[@Vercingetorix.Fantasia]

You continue to be the best Source of King Philip's War. Being raised in Framingham, my wife in Sudbury, and having settled in Marlborough, the history of this war surrounds me. The 1st Natives to receive a "Christian burial" and therefore headstone is less than 100 feet from me. I love walking thru the old cemeteries in our area, 1600s thru 1800s. Loads of veterans of this war, and the revolution. One of those old cemeteries is located at a defining Battlesite of KPW in Sudbury.

[@ZytphenA]

❤🎉 Love from Denmark - I find your history ‘lessons’ so very interesting and rewatchable. Thank you for your hard work.

[@danitron4096]

Lad os håbe han laver noget om Danske immigranter til USA😄

[@ZytphenA]

@@danitron4096 Dansk vest indiske øer / Virgin islands would be the obvious choice - it’s not very flattering to Denmark; but I think it would be super intereresting for an episode, not to mention important history.

[@enak413]

This stuff is fascinating to me. I live in Easthampton Mass. near the sight of a small village called Pascommuck that was wiped out by Natives in 1704

[@sangy80]

As an south american (Chilean) I've found this video pretty interesting, and not only maked me reflect about the north american native history, but also the south american natives history. I wanted to tell you that your video motivated me to study history as an adult, I'll definetly read the references of your video to try to better understand the history that you just chared with all of your viewers, as well as to find sources to try to better understand my own natives history. Keep up with the nice work! Thank you!

[@mrhombreman]

Seems like the sensible thing to do, since many of your compatriots and politicians don’t want to address the historical and contemporary oppression of the mapuche population

[@sangy80]

@@mrhombreman well... they are adressing it since more than a century, is actually a common topic in politics, people in the streets and in the tv or whatever media you use. But the way both sides are adressing it isn't actually friendly. The government usually tries to use the force, raising the tentions and killing inocent mapuches in the process, and, when there's a change of focus, stop using violence and try to use dialogs the politicians get shooted at by the mapuches they're trying to talk with, or those said mapuches start attacking civilians, at best traethening and stealing their stuff at gunpoint, and at worst killing them. Is a difficult topic to talk about, even if you have a lot of insight, because both sides have blood of inocent people in their hands, both back in the day and nowadays. Both Chileans and Mapuche civilians have been attacked and killed by both sides, making both sides asking for justice/jail time for those who murdered inocents... and sadly it's hard to imagine this problem being solved any time soon. Mainly because neither of the sides are known for being talkative. Is complicated to get in to an agreement because neither party want to negotiate terms. It isn't in the culture of either side, the Chilean motto is "(either) by reason or force" (por la razón o la fuerza) and neither the pre colonial nor post colonial history of the Mapuches is actually talkative either... It's a tough topic that, independent of the side you choose, either you oversimplify it to not to feel a sour taste in the mouth for you justifying the murdering of civilians because "X" is more important than "Y", or you see that there's more than a century of resentment from both sides that have lead people to have radical ideas by their losses and won't accept a midterm to end with the conflict. (Edit: I messed this paragraph of the response for redacting the ideas while mentaly translating it on the go, sorry about it) Sorry for the text wall, the TL;DR: I just wanted to clarify that it isn't something that we don't adress, is a common topic, but is a complicated topic and we try to give it the respect that both the topic and the victims deserve. Have a good morning/day/night ^^

[@mrhombreman]

@@sangy80 I’m sorry, but both-siding chiles colonial and genocidal history with the Mapuche struggle for cultural, social and political rights is really disgusting.

[@mrhombreman]

@@sangy80 and what you’re saying is just plainly false. Indigenous social movements in chile have very concrete demands for social and cultural change. What they don’t have is political power to implement this change, since all the political power currently and historically is held by European ancestors

[@sangy80]

@@mrhombreman ok, you're free to get to the conclutions that you want to. I'm not saying my political believes about it because an historical video about natives from NA isn't a place for a devate about my country internal struggles, and you're asuming that I'm shitting on Mapuches for not supporting everything that some of their groups do (because not all the mapuches are in nor support Wallmapu for example). This stuff isn't black and white and because some people got screwed in the past I'm not going to support the murdering either of innocent Mapuches (those who doesn't identifies themselves as Chleans) nor innocent Chileans (wich also includes Mapuches who do identifies themselves as Chileans). Like I said, I'm not willing to oversimplify something that have real and heavy repercutions in the lives of the people in my country and is fucking enfuriating to see some outsider, who know little to nothing of the reality outside of what they see in internet or media, trying to put words in my mouth about what is for us a delicate topic. I'm not asking you to share my point of view, I haven't said my point of view about it, and I don't care what you think about it. I'm just asking you to be respectful about it because there are real people who have died and you were just saying that nobody gives a damn about it when is just the other way around. EVERY ONE IS AFRAID TO FUCK IT MORE. EVERY ONE WANTS IT TO END. But stuff isn't as easy as giving away a fifth of the country away as some fucks would say, and you can't just go ahead and declare war and send the army as other stupid fucks have said already. So yeah, Sorry for being rude but you picked a sensitive nerve. I'm not going to respond anymore about this

[@mrfox5780]

I've always been hungering for the native perspective in every era of American history, sadly there's very few videos on KZbin centered around it; great to see such a high quality and informative video on something rarely talked about in depth.

[@foxyboiiyt3332]

Love these videos. Being Irish with a great interest in History this is an era and area that I knew very little about. Keep up the excellent work 👏

[@coleparker]

One thing you might want to know being Irish, is that when the southern colonial settle Jamestown was set up along with Martins Hundred, they planned it's layout and defenses based upon experiences when the Scots and English moved into Northern Ireland.

[@MrGamerGuy951]

I love all of this so much. I’m a fantasy author and a viking age reenactor and my partner is Swampy Cree. She wants to rediscover her culture and chart her own way. She’s going to love this

[@toddlucas6073]

The only colonist ever hung drawn and quartered for high treason against the king of England was my ancestor Joshua Tefft. He was killed for helping the Narragansetts fight the English at Great Swamp. I'm so proud to be descended from him

[@jeremiah9575]

How do you know you are descended from

[@pustak]

Excellent work, as always! I am a High School history teacher in Massachusetts and I try very hard to get across the complicated, morally-grey, and troubling aspects of our heritage. This kind of compelling and well-researched resource is hard to come by, and your work in this area is deeply appreciated. Going to go email this video to my Department now...

[@Cavemanner]

This was incredible! The passion and surety with which Drew and Dylan spoke brought a lot of energy to an already highly engaging channel. And I love that you reigned in your talkative nature to give them the space to speak at whatever length they needed. Not only are you a great historian and presenter, turns out you can give a mean interview as well! Mad respect, Andy!

[@pirateninjaalliance]

As much as I love your other content, I am here for your King Philip's War and Puritan content more than anything else. Thank you for shedding more light on this underrepresented chapter of American history.

[@megansullivan3005]

I love your content on indigenous history in Massachusetts! Have you ever thought about doing a video in collaboration with the Wampanoag Language Reclamation Project? Hearing your English speech in OP is awesome and really adds to the history retellings, and it would be so cool to get a native side to that as well.

[@arthurbriand2175]

Could you do a video on the relationship different native peoples had with the european colonies? The French and Dutch did not have the same rapport with their allied native tribes than the English. Same there were differences between the Southern colonies and New England.

[@b99b12]

There's a quote from Francis Parkman that goes: "Spanish civilization crushed the Indian; English civilization scorned and neglected him; French civilization embraced and cherished him." I think that sums it up, but some important things to note: This is an American who came up with that quote in 1835. Spanish and English treatment of Native Americans were much worse than the French for sure, but many who weren't frontiersmen still thought of the Natives as lesser than Europeans. French missionaries thought the Natives were like naive children who needed to be taught catholicism and be civilized before they were truly on equal status with Europeans. Montcalm the French commander in New France during the seven years war (French-Indian war) thought poorly of his native allies and wasn't well versed on their customs leading to the absolute disaster of the English surrender of Fort William Henry where many English troops were killed or taken prisoner which mortified him. I don't know a lot about the dutch since I'm Canadian and the Dutch never set foot here, but from what I've studied their main interests were commercial and my guess was they were trying to set up commercial hubs in New England since the solid oaks were perfect for ship masts, the beaver pelts were very lucrative and in high demand in Europe, and if you were trading with the natives you could do it through wampum or easily imported goods from the mainland (axes, lanterns, firearms, gunpowder, ammunition, etc) for land (which First Nations had no concept of owning land so they could be easily tricked into treaties) or said goods. The Spanish were absolute monsters under conquistadors who were basically military dictators plundering cities and exploiting local unrest to their advantage. Hernan Cortez and Francisco Pizarro who led the Conquest of the Aztecs and Incas were especially brutal. Although Charles V did worry about the treatment of the indiginous population of the Spanish colonies thanks to Bartolomé de las Casas. That's pretty much my knowledge of the different treatments of Native people with Europeans.

[@samadams8355]

@@b99b12 The French did make a few blunders, probably the most severe of which was when Samuel de Champlain decided to join his Wendat allies in an attack on the Kanienʼkehá꞉ka/Mohawk people. Champlain may not have been aware that despite their early lack of firearms, the Kanienʼkehá꞉ka were rich and powerful and were part of the mighty Haudenosaunee Confederacy, which would soon trade for arms with the English and Dutch. This resulted in the near-extinction of the Wendat, and the Haudenosaunee becoming powerful enemies of the French and allies of the English during most of early colonial history.

[@paulastiles5507]

@@b99b12 The Dutch did get up into Canada. I had an ancestor who was captured and adopted into a Mohawk clan near Niagara. He married the chieftain's daughter (according to his account, anyway), had at least one son, and eventually returned to what is now NYC. The Dutch and the French (and some Scots) were integral to the fur trade and were relatively decent toward indigenous peoples, though the French Crown, had no qualms about using the latter as shock troops in its wars with England. The Spanish and Portuguese treatment varied...a lot. The big difference is that the English brought entire families and had a special horror of intermarriage with indigenous people, whereas even the Spanish intermarried regularly with indigenous people (though they had a strict caste system pretty much from the start). The French and the Dutch "went native" pretty often, especially early on. They regularly married indigenous women, who acted as important ambassadors between indigenous and Europeans, and became the ancestors of the Metis. There is no comparable Anglo class to Mestizos or Metis.

[@S3lkie-Gutz]

@@samadams8355 the inuit of central and eastern arctic in so called canada suffered at the hands of all three, from the hudson’s bay company to the jesuits catholics anglicans and morovians, the french were just as awful as the dutch and english colonial powers if not worse at times

[@talitek]

Thanks to all involved in this video! As a Brit we rarely get taught any history from the New World outside of events that took place in the late 19th and 20th centuries - learning about native history, and especially King Philip's War, has been incredibly eye-opening for me. I especially love the breakdown of the outfits worn by Drew and Dylan; material culture is absolutely fascinating.

[@dr_drago]

I was most definitely not expecting a video tackling this very subject. This was a very pleasant surprise, especially with two Native American historians! Even I don't fully grasp the horrors of this war; I know there were horrors committed by both sides, but I know little beyond that. It may be uncomfortable to read about, but it must be done.

[@awesomepawn2]

this is both fascinating and so important, I'm incredibly glad there are still people making the effort to carry the torch of these histories

[@aaronstreitenberger6012]

Native history is American History. Glad you keep making these videos. Americans tend to get the Cliff's Notes of early Colonial history if we're not born and raised back East. It's a lot more nuanced and interesting than a lot of people understand. Keep doing your thing man.

[@Stoneworks]

This is such a cool video, thank you for showing Drew and Dylan's living history to the internet, I love it

[@BoomKing72]

Would love to see more videos like this, especially with more Drew and Dylan and other living historians like them.

[@jackwells1073]

The production of this video is awesome. One of the coolest living history video I’ve ever seen with really great explanations.

[@tomas.8711]

Top marks to Atun-Shei, Drew & Dylan for an honest & accurate discussion (& vivid presentation!) of an important historical episode. I very much appreciate the candor, knowledge & effort that went into making this fine mini-documentary, complete with original sources, great voice acting, & spectacular costumes! You fellows should be on the History Channel!

[@HistoryDose]

This was great. Loved this changeup in style!

[@00muinamir]

At last, we get to see what you roped Jonathan into, LOL. This is your best video yet on King Phillip's War, and kudos to Drew and Dylan for their passion in keeping this history alive.

[@sammosaurusrex]

The cinematography of this videos the best advertisement for the Sudbury Devil. Not just quality informative content, wildly beautiful footage too. Appreciate this video a huge amount, way beyond the shot composition. Completely under-discussed and nearly unknown history even in New England. Great work 👍

[@localroger]

This is a fantastic video. Thank you Drew and Dylan for educating me on the history of our peoples, and Andy for giving them a forum. I believe that if we do not understand the ugliness of our past, we cannot properly appreciate what is beautiful about our present.

[@arturopineda1997]

Love this kind of historical content since indigenous people never get enough attention. I'd love it if you could continue to make these kind of videos. Especially the role Native people played during the Civil War given how much of a mainstay that conflict is to your channel. Please continue to platform more Native voices.

[@abitofapickle6255]

I love guns, and I love history. Put the two together and I'm 100% hooked. I grew up watching the last of the Mohicans and movies like it so for me it's really cool to see the actual aspects of that era. Plus having actual natives discuss the topic is even more epic. I love this channel!

[@davidweihe6052]

Last of the Mohicans was set in the French and Indian (aka, Seven Years) War, around a century after King Philip’s War. Wildly different political conditions.

[@trevormilliner8121]

One period to look into for another video would be Little Turtles war or the Northwestern Indian War. This was the first major defeat of the "American Army" when they were just getting out of the revolution and mostly still militia. Blue Jacket and Little Turtle are the most well known chiefs of that one.

[@Tareltonlives]

The Miami, Shawnee, Lenape, Three Fires, Wendat, and all their allies won the biggest victory against the US army by a native force in what is today Fort Recovery. It's a forgotten battle, but one that birthed the US army, and ensured the survival of these people.

[@CatNibbles]

Wasn't really sure what kind of content you would be focusing on and how it would be presented since your focus on Checkmate Linconites has passed, but glad to say I'm enjoying what you're putting out. Plus the humor is still very much there, along with the information. Keep up the great work!

[@AtunSheiFilms]

As much as we all love Checkmate, it’s only 9 of the 100+ videos I have on this channel. It’s always been only a small part of what I do here.

[@Leon-bc8hm]

As a Dutchman and European I think this part of history is very important.

[@PortlandLife]

This is such great content man! Love learning about the cultural and material exchange. Gotta keep those native traditions strong!

[@Louiscare]

Very interesting video with beautiful and well researched talking points, I hope to see Drew and/or Dylan back some more

[@9171paladin]

I respect the fact that he acknowledged the there are not good guys or bad guys. History is bloody and unmerciful.

[@basoon87]

Really great video. I put this on intending to have it play in the back ground while I worked, but instead I just watched the whole thing straight through. Super insightful guests, I hope you can have them on more.

[@Paragoth]

This video is so good, I really appreciate you choosing this subject matter and finding such great guests to enlighten us.

[@hansg6336]

Nice to see these young guys so dedicated to the preservation of an often misunderstood and misrepresented part of North American history. This reenacting format is far better than a slew of dry and formulaic versions of historical events.

[@AnthonyWhitford]

Amazing. Please, please do more indigenous content, their stories being spread is very important and you do it very very well

[@BenJett]

I found this video to be fascinating and yet a bit chilling. The reason being is that I am a descendant of a Massachusetts colonial named John Waldo who was wounded but survived the ambush at Wheeler's Surprise. While learning of my connection to this historical event has been one of the more fun genealogical discoveries I have made, I must admit that it gives me a fair dose of existential anxiety when I contemplate my very existence coming down to the aim of a Nipmuc warrior being just slightly off or perhaps what order my Great Grandfather's horse was in the procession as they entered the swamp. The re-enactments from your living historians at the 20 minute mark, painted a very vivid scene and its interesting to contemplate if my ancestor processed a similar image in the moments before being injured and the Colonials subsequent desperate retreat. Thank you for providing more background and context for this era, it has really helped me to become more informed and I certainly appreciate your efforts to share and promote what we know about the Native American experience in these times!

[@alun7006]

Fantastic! Thank you for centering your guests here - too many creators would have just taken edited snippets from them. And thanks to Drew and Dylan themselves for taking the time to share their wealth of knowledge and experience. Superb stuff.

[@TheNateDevourer]

I can only hope that Drew and Dylan will make a return at some point down the line. Excellent content.

[@user-DeLorean-Dude2024]

This is Cooper from your email, this video was pretty good! I am interested in this war. I hope to see more videos like this in the future.

[@AtunSheiFilms]

Thanks man, good luck on your film!

[@user-DeLorean-Dude2024]

@@AtunSheiFilms Thanks Shei, but I got another personal project too before that. I have a dog-whale kaiju on my hands.

[@frapseddatsht]

One of the best videos I've seen in a while. Absolutely brilliant, thank you.

[@christopherdove3326]

I'm a long-time fan, but this video just blew me away. Absolutely fantastic work by everyone involved - one of your very best. Thanks for making it

[@pjk9225]

Phenomenal. Living just north of Boston, there are an incredible amount of monuments and informational plaques talking about the revolutionary war, Paul Revere, etc. But King Phillips war was so foundational to the entire USA, I'd love to see more of it. I sit in on town meetings occasionally, I'll have to see if this is something that can be brought up.

[@rubenskiii]

The amount of knowledge you have been able to share and preserve on the internet through this KZbin channel is amazing. Thanks for doing that and thanks for stepping aside and let others tell the stories that involve their ancestors. Thanks to everyone who has helped in the videos over the years, it is very much appreciated.

[@AncientAmericas]

Great work! Really enjoyed this.

[@pjk9225]

Damn I never “doubted” Atun shei, but seeing the AA stamp of approval is excellent to see

[@AncientAmericas]

@@pjk9225 Atun Shei knows way more about King Philip's War than I do. I'm here to learn.

[@rudetuesday]

This was fantastic. Being able to see held and worn items from different angles, in use by people from the communities that employed these, is so helpful to seeing these things differently. So good to have perspectives like this.

[@onegirlarmy4401]

Thanks for all the work you put into these videos! We need more good history content!

[@pavelandreev4727]

I love when history is presented as real life of real people, not just those guys fought these guys. The everyday life of ordinary folk, that's history. Thank you for bringing it to life!

[@swordwhale]

Such a great in-depth look at realities of the conflict. Great production!

[@brandonhamilton833]

So glad youtube recommended your channel. This was well put together and those two historians blew me away. Great work

[@RÅNÇIÐ]

In times like these I'm really appreciating neutral and unbiased history lessons like this.

[@jonathanvilario5402]

Amazing history lesson, love these two historians and I hope you bring them back for the channel again!

[@hal3908]

Im a junior concept artist, and as someone who takes a big intrest in this stuff for personal projects, this content is really useful! love all your stuff

[@someguy5815]

This video not only gives us a new perspective on the war, a sorely needed one at that, but also shows us how great of an interviewer Atun Shei is

[@hendrix24]

This is fantastic. Everybody here did a wonderful job. Very entertaining and I learned so much. I could watch this style or format of content endlessly. If I were rich, I would drown you in money. Your work and the work of your fellow historians are so valuable. The world needs more of this.

[@Honnid]

As an indigenous educator (Akwesasne Mohawk / Kaniekehaka) who's worked in museums, as an interpreter, storytller, on my Reserve, as well as with Parks Canada for a time. this video was incredibly refreshing. i've followed many channels over the years scratching the itch to see my people and peoples our nation has had contact with, represented with respect, research and first hand education. So many other channels will call it a day after a 20 minute video of phrases like "Indians" "Savages" summaries and falsehoods like the use of Wampum (Which to us Haudenosaunee hold such importance) featuring Algonquin Peoples, or Those under the Haudenosaunee with War Bonnets of the plains. many would focus only on the narrative crafted in textbooks and the American education system. Even going into this video, I was hesitant, hoping against hope yours would not be another channel I'd have to unsub from for following the easy shock clicks. glad that isnt so. This is my favorite video of yours yet. Niawen (Thank You) to Drew and Dylan for representing the history and your peoples well. And to Atunshei for using his platform to help educate true history. Well Done everyone.

[@milanowns]

Great video! I love learning about this period in the Americas. So much to be learned!

[@mwheeler138]

I think this is one of your best video. Not only was I informed with a lot of good information and my interest piqued, but I was actually touched and felt a great respect for these young men.

[@ReedCBowman]

What an excellent video. I love that you are leaning into your role as the main popular history source on King Philip's War and continuing to expand your own content on it.

[@M.M.83-U]

Wonderfull! Your work on this subject is amazing. Thanks to Drew, Dylan and all the crew.

[@arthurbriand2175]

Yay!! More King Philip's war content!

[@jeroenvandenbossche4699]

from a european 'napoleonic living historian': I salute these 2 fine gentlemen. Awesome work, keep doing it!

[@dominictemple]

Great stuff as always Andy, one of the podcasts I listen to called Lions Led By Donkeys has a 3 episode arc about King Phillips War, episodes 238-240 are very insightful into the world of colonial New England and how the war developed.

[@78jpeg]

My ancestors came here in the 1630s and I'm very glad to see that you are keeping the true real history of the native American and English history alive and that you have the invite from the native side of the story because that is the most important part that's been missing from education of the history of America

[@captainahab1533]

Man that was great. Will you do a follow up? I'd very much like to see more things like this.

[@monfisch]

Thank you for bringing indigenous historians into this video. I was transfixed the whole video. I have an interest in period clothing and Drew and Dylan going over the clothing and what they were made from was fascinating. The tattoos are also amazing. I know other indigenous groups globally are retaking their tattoos back. Thank you for a great video.

[@darthbee18]

This is indeed such a cool video! 😎✨ Major props to Dylan and Drew as presenters! 😄✨ This only makes me look forward to the next videos you'd make on King Philip's War 😄😺😏

[@Bmayo27]

The quote at the end has to be one of the better, and most profound quotes, that I’ve ever come across. Thank you for posting all of this. Great content. Great commitment and honor to all our ancestors.

[@salemite]

Oregonian here, the way the Oregon Trail was white washed as I grew up was astounding. I'm glad that a lot of the Oregon Trail markers have been updated in the last few decades to be more fair to what actually happened to native peoples, but it still has a long way to go. Absolutely great video, great job all of ya'll!!!

[@burke615]

Came to the channel for Checkmate, Lincolnites; stayed for the amazing documentaries like this!

[@dstinnettmusic]

So amazing to hear the honest thoughts of these guys. They talked about the few positives of early colonial interaction as well as told the honest truth about the bad. Trade was a big deal. The European mindset just didn’t understand why the native tribes valued things like knives and axes as much as they did…but metal tools, and the concept of metalworking in general would have been revolutionary if disease and colonization hadn’t been so awful…..

[@dantesabbath2107]

Drew is so down to earth, i love that shit and the open mindedness of there being no good guys or bad guys, and that both parties were equally bad in their militant acts