Dual 1214 Turntable will not shut off for 20 minutes

[@ollelindgren6542]

Thanks for this video. I'd been messing with the arm for shut off for qite some time but it's never easy knowing just how much resistence you should expect in movement. You made it quite clear my arm wasn't moving as it should. I needed to heat mine using a solder iron to get it unstuck though.

[@EsotericArctos]

If I recall, from the Service Manual, Dual recommended relubricating the turntables every 2 years. Not many did that though. Vinyl, if cleaned and looked after, doesn't have a lot of clicks and pops. Just like old 78's that are well looked after don't sound like the scratchy mess that can sometimes be portrayed. I have aa significant vinyl record collection, and none of them have pops or crackles during playback, and I don't use anything fancy. Just a Dual 1015F with a ATVM95 cartridge with the standard Conical stylus.

[@JasonHalversonjaydog]

to avoid content matches, i've seen other youtubers use records from independant artists whose music isn't in youtube's library and are putting out new vinyl and other unusual music formats

[@veb92168]

I've had powered koss speakers in the past , they were very nice looking and sounding speakers. Thanks for another great video!

[@mryamaha100]

its great Dave gadget clock still working in the corner , repair turntable and still got space on your work desk happy days apart from the cutters & blowers in the back ground

[@GeorgeGeorge-xj2bc]

The rotation is based in AC motor with a shaft of different thickness levels and a rubber wheel.Very old type of mechanism,the rubber wheel gets dry and neels sanding from time to time and if left unused for long period the shaft from the spring tension forms a tooth in the rubber wheel.

[@12voltvids]

The drive idler is pulled away from the motor when it is off.

[@38911bytefree]

I used aTD-165 a friend had. Nice machine, definitely this is the far I would go for a turntable.

[@richardwall2433]

Had the same situation. Thanks to you...problem solved. Thank u very much!!!

[@teebomus1]

Had the same problem, watching this Helped me fix it. Thanks!

[@markmarkofkane8167]

Found this on my suggestions list. Great!

[@jerryking7502]

That pivot post for the sticking lever can be removed by unscrewing it then you can clean it all up and relube..... With that vintage of TT it probably had a flip over needle. You can still get them, but I have only seen them for ceramic cartridges....

[@ollelindgren6542]

There's a nut on one side and groove for a flat head on the other end. I tried both but only managed to damage the flat head groove. Be careful!

[@RockinJohnnyaitken]

I have the 1218 model similar to this and I can't get the stacker to work the record drops and starts to play but then immediately it pulls back up again and does this to all the records where am I going wrong mate? Do I need to adjust the locking tab?

[@JoeHenry734]

What is that rotational speed app you are using?

[@elliottcrews4997]

I'm trying to figure out my 1229. The arm returns and the platter disengages but the motor continues to run and the stroboscope light flashes. So I don't think it is a sticking switch, any ideas?

[@michaelturner4457]

Ah, the can't beat the snap, crackle, and pop of a record. That's something I miss from CDs and MP3s.

[@12voltvids]

Not to mention all that wow and flutter.

[@tacofortgens3471]

​@@12voltvidsand the rumble

[@Multiwizard]

Nice (useful) video... 👍 My turntable motor has difficulties with speeding up & keeping the right speed up... I did already grease the ball bearing holders of the motor, sadly it didn't help... 🙁 Any suggestions what could cause this (lack of motor power) problem?... Thanks in advance...

[@12voltvids]

Does it spin freely

[@Multiwizard]

@@12voltvids Yes, it spins easily with two vinger tips... 🙂 Edit: could it be some caps?...

[@electronicaesaz4884]

Hello good video and channel greetings from Valencia Spain. comment about this plate that some came to me with the cables of the arm almost rotten and the motor to completely disassemble clean and grease the bearings but then they work for decades they are great and the automatic of several discs is great I also dedicate myself to the repair alone Audio. Google traslate

[@zx8401ztv]

Good, a quality deck working great now :-D Yes it is an old technology but it works, no lasers or complex control systems to fail. Reliability is often more valuable than technical cleverness.

[@12voltvids]

Just a stylus and record to wear.

[@davidraso]

It is actually opposite right now. If you want a new mid tier turntable your options are a cheap plasticity “toy” or a featureless slab of glossy plastic. Fully automatic table are basically extinct. Want direct drive automatic? Good luck. Many “new” players have you manually move the belt under the platter to change speeds. Now it is irrational since all you really need it something to turn the record at the right speed and hold the stylus on top of it. People are irrational we make decisions with our hearts as much as with our heads. Some people want something that “speaks to them”. I personally have a soft spot for the Jacket sized Technics like the SL-10 or SL-J3.

[@12voltvids]

@@davidraso I use a Thorns td165 and Technics SLM1 myself when I listen to vinyl which isn't that often. I was given 4 box of records that I haven't even gone through yet. Will go through and give away what I don't want which will probably be 95% of them.

[@tacofortgens3471]

​@@davidraso PLENTY OF DESCENT QUALITY BRANDS AVAILABLE

[@Ted_E_Bear]

Another awesome video !

[@KahnePriest]

Hey I watched some of your other videos. Is there anyway to test a Bose wave music cd changer if I don’t have the player?

[@12voltvids]

No, it won't work without the radio / single cd player.

[@StudioGrafix]

I had this same problem on my Dual 1212 and went through and lubricanted and looked at what you did. It used to start up great and everything but wouldn't stop. Now it won't start up unless I spin the platter several revolutions. I think what happened is some WD-40 oversprayed when I was spraying and some got up inside of the platter and I think the idler when and idler pulley. I tried wiping it off. I tried using alcohol to disolve the lubricant. Right now it works as a manual unit but when I start it, the platter starts to spin for a few seconds slowly then stops but can still hear the idler motor spinning. The tone arm lifts up and starts to move then stops. If I rotate the platter several revolutions until the lever clicks and moves from start to run then the records starts to play but it's slow. If I crank the pitch control all the way up it's 32 RPM or so. Slightly under normal. Any suggestions since I think I accidentally lubricated my idler pulley?

[@pjhj3687]

Hi, I have the same problem as you on my 1214. My unit was stuck in the 'ON" position. I was able to correct it, but created another problem in doing so - the same problem as you. I need to help it to start and return. by turning the platter with my hand. Were you able to resolve your issue? Any advice would help. Thanks. Patrick

[@SDsailor7]

So how do your new speakers sound? Do you like them?

[@12voltvids]

They actually sound really good. My son has already commandeered them,

[@Jammerk40]

That turntable is a idler drive correct? Or belt drive?

[@12voltvids]

This one is an idler drive, and I am not kidding they are going for 500 bucks to fools with more money than brains at the local vintage audio retailer. Guy that own's this one already has it sold. Sold it for 350 paid me 100 to get it working. I too could have gotten this one for free, because he got it at the same place I got the speakers for free. I pulled up to a house that they were basically giving everything away. Big sign said FREE, take it away. The guy that grabbed this didn't want the speakers.

[@adanvaldcontreras4283]

Could you tell us more stories about crazy crazy..lol

[@glenmiller1425]

Do you work on reel-to-reel players I have a couple I like to service I live in Kitchener maybe you know someone close by that can work on reel-to-reels near Kitchener or

[@12voltvids]

I do work on them and no i don't know anyone.

[@mraaron1584]

wait till oct when canada post does there free ship tueday promo its a great time to send stuff off to be repaired.

[@glenmiller1425]

I have a couple of dual record players for sale I have a model 1257 I have to look up the other one

[@slotec]

the people that give them away for free are the actual suckers😂😂

[@12voltvids]

They just want rid of em. I have about 10 turntables to sell.

[@12voltvids]

@Taco Nope because they are not listed anywhere.

[@ianforfun1]

Snap, crackle & pop! Yay, the good old days? Well maybe up to the 1970s? I wish that CDs had just that little extra in the Kbps area, the sound is so clean and I just do not understand the re-emergence of Vinyl and all the surface noise and the accumulation of the mould that lives in the bottom of the groove and the tricky bit of getting the RIAA curve just right not to mention the arm balance set-up and the cost of a stylus. Not a fan of Vinyl but back-in-the-day I sold Hi-Fi and Dual turntables were popular and very well built. Brilliant video as always! Cheers from London UK.

[@patrickmegan8224]

Hello Ian, I don't know what it is about the vinyl. There's something both nostalgic about the covers, especially the double albums, and the soft sound that draws people in. My albums don't crackle and pop so much thankfully. I have a bunch of cd's which sound great, I listen to Radio Paradise on flac which is somewhat mind blowing, and every song/concert/album is on youtube which I run through a dac into my up-to-date Marantz amp and it all sounds amazing. But I have the neighbors around for dinner, drinks and 'song night' and we always end up in the vinyl. And what's interesting is that they are 20 years younger than me. Maybe it reminds them of their childhood or something? I dunno.

[@tacofortgens3471]

​@@patrickmegan8224gotta love the rumble and hiss and distortion

[@SDsailor7]

Sounds like the turtable and amp are heading to ebay..

[@12voltvids]

No the guy that brought it over already had it sold. He got it at the same place I got the speakers. Beat me to it by 30 seconds. It was sitting on the speakers when I rolled up and he grabbed the turntable. I asked if he was taking the speakers too and he said no, so I scooped them. mentioned that it would likely need work and gave him my number and he called the next day.

[@richysradioroom]

Nice.

[@wildcman]

People are paying that much because the new one's are junk they won't last 50 years and the new one's are not repairable

[@gavincurtis]

Sure looks like a well built mechanism.

[@ernestmccollum2397]

I'd buy that for a dollar!

[@12voltvids]

@@ernestmccollum2397 10 is my limit

[@Poppinwheeeeellllllieeeeez]

A new 180g vinyl with a new stylus on a quartz locked technics cant be beat. A scratched old record stored out of its sleve on a 1214 with a dirty stylus.....LOL of course it sounds terrible.

[@12voltvids]

They sound ok for vinyl but my Sony cdpx55es still blows the doors off any vinyl.

[@Poppinwheeeeellllllieeeeez]

@@12voltvids thats what all the boomers that went heavy into cds always say....but you are correct.

[@12voltvids]

@@Poppinwheeeeellllllieeeeez the sound quality from a cd is entirely dependent on the quality of the da converter in the player. Unfortunately many believe that digital is digital and as prices fell those believing that theory just bought the cheapest most featured CD player they could find. Many of these also could play back DVD movies. These units had digital filters one bit converters and we're dirt cheap. The high-end machines we're still selling in the four digit range and had analog filters and 16-bit DA converters and lacked a lot of the features. Some didn't even have a remote. But you see you weren't paying for features you were paying for sound quality and the high-end units out there delivered Superior sound to the low cost alternatives even from the same company. Many pop and rock CDs of the 80s we're not mastered correctly because the recording studios were too cheap to remix a CD version of the session tapes they use the same tape that was equalized and dynamic range limited for the final and cassette releases. On these CDs there's a minimal sound quality improvement however for those artists and those studios that understood quality and mixed for CD, and this started at The Source by recording in full digital to begin with those discs sound Superior to any analog copy. I invite you to seek out a copy of Dave grusin's mountain dance and heae for yourself. This is probably one of the best sounding CDs I have ever heard. It was recorded live in the studio, no overdubs mixed live and recorded direct to a soundstream 2 channel digital tape recorder.

[@Poppinwheeeeellllllieeeeez]

@@12voltvids cool. Ill check it out. I also prefer vinyl because of its value.......a cd is worthless whereas vinyl is worth a fair bit in very good condition.

[@12voltvids]

@@Poppinwheeeeellllllieeeeez Only if someone is willing to pay for it. I have more vinyl here than I know what to do with, and I get very little for it. Only certain vinyl releases are worth anything. Most are only worth a buck or two. I have boxes of stuff, and I get very few offers again because only a few are actually worth anything. The collectors also seem to the the cheapest of the buyers. They want to collect, but they also don't want to pay. I just received 4 large boxes of vinyl, and there may be a couple that I am interested in, and the rest will probably be given away.

[@mauanderuk]

No plastic these are more about nostalgia me thinks.