Audiences Hate Bad Writing, Not Strong Women | Paws Reacts

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@kevbu4
@kevbu4 2 ай бұрын
It feels like the point for them is not to have something of their own, but rather to tear down everything that was.
@kevbu4
@kevbu4 2 ай бұрын
Counterpoint to this, writing a new story would require the ability to write a new story.
@o-mangaming5042
@o-mangaming5042 2 ай бұрын
That's exactly what it is. Yeah, I see your counterpoint about lack of skill, but you have to ask "who put them in this position and why?" And the answer is executives who want to manipulate audiences into forgetting the past so they can actively rewrite it. We see this every day with other things, like Jada Smith making that god awful documentary claiming Cleopatra was black. They intend to tear down history and substitute their own.
@kevbu4
@kevbu4 2 ай бұрын
@@o-mangaming5042 To paraphrase a passage I don't quite remember: Every history book has been rewritten, every statue torn down, there is no past or future, only an endless present where the party is always right.
@zdub93
@zdub93 2 ай бұрын
​@@kevbu4yeah some people really treat 1984 like a guide book rather than a warning
@farlonmuentes6004
@farlonmuentes6004 2 ай бұрын
It's so funny when a male lead movie or TV show flops, it's not "people hate men". It's just bad writing but this generation of movie makers cannot take responsibility of their shitty work
@cloudsteele1989
@cloudsteele1989 2 ай бұрын
It's not even just movie makers... I've left too many friendships because people aren't able to take responsibility for what they did. It's always the turning tide when they start blaming other people for their actions.
@facundomontivero2299
@facundomontivero2299 2 ай бұрын
When has a male lead movie ever sucked because the protagonist was written badly though?
@Dan_Kanerva
@Dan_Kanerva 2 ай бұрын
@@facundomontivero2299 try watching Career Opportunities from 1991, one of the main reasons that movie flopped super ahrd was because the male actor was UNBEARABLE. I am glad he got destroyed in Pulp Fiction
@JohnBrown-tw2qi
@JohnBrown-tw2qi Ай бұрын
@@facundomontivero2299 Buz Lightyear in Lightyear; Kylo Ren in the new trilogy; the guy in 50 shades of grey; the main guy in the new Mortal Kombat movie; the main guy in Godzilla 2014; Nick Cage’s character in Left Behind; that kid in Tron: Legacy; need I say more?
@Kesvalk
@Kesvalk 2 ай бұрын
"I played 20k hours of PoE, i don't have time to watch marvel" "i didn't even know there was a new mulan" please teach me your ways Paws
@en-men-lu-ana6870
@en-men-lu-ana6870 2 ай бұрын
Paws being based as fuck.
@kiroalpha8591
@kiroalpha8591 2 ай бұрын
Uh... What is PoE?
@en-men-lu-ana6870
@en-men-lu-ana6870 2 ай бұрын
@@kiroalpha8591 Path of Exile
@Rifky809
@Rifky809 2 ай бұрын
​@@kiroalpha8591Path of Exile maybe?
@DivusMeta
@DivusMeta 2 ай бұрын
@@kiroalpha8591 Path of Exile I assume.
@marmyeater
@marmyeater 2 ай бұрын
The problem with Jen Walter's isn't that she didn't have problems with control (she's been in control since day one of the comics specifically because she doesn't have trauma like Bruce). The problem was butchering her kind personality into an awful person.
@antonakesson
@antonakesson 2 ай бұрын
What do you mean? Isn't it kind to diminish you cousins past trauma by telling him he doesn't know what she has been going through as if she has been through even a fraction as bad of events?
@facundomontivero2299
@facundomontivero2299 2 ай бұрын
Eh. She Hulk from the comics is overrated too. She's not that great of a character from the get go.
@Gensolink
@Gensolink 2 ай бұрын
the hulk treatment in she-hulk is even more disrespectful when you know why Hulk is a thing to begin with. It's not a dr jekyll and mr hyde for the sake of it. To make it short he has DID and had anger issues because of his father abuse at least in the comics. And they made she-hulk tell HIM that he doesnt what she's going through like wtf
@featherdragon7894
@featherdragon7894 2 ай бұрын
I think the two pre-mcu hulk movies are cannon even though they switched up actors, and in the first hulk movie that backstory is the same.
@gameboysp100
@gameboysp100 2 ай бұрын
To play devil's advocate (and i really dont want to for this show), but i think that this is supposed to be a character flaw that the main character was supposed to overcome by the end of the story. Its just that the show is structured in a way that it doesn't really seem that way.
@vergillives9890
@vergillives9890 2 ай бұрын
Especially when she knows his dad died and knew about the abuse that his dad gave him as his only family member left
@RancorSnp
@RancorSnp 2 ай бұрын
"Audiences hate strong women!" - Meanwhile Frieren sitting as number 1 most popular anime on MAL and probably many other sites
@facundomontivero2299
@facundomontivero2299 2 ай бұрын
Frieren is overrated. She's not that good of a character. Himmel and Stark are WAY more compelling characters.
@hartlettal8104
@hartlettal8104 2 ай бұрын
@@facundomontivero2299 and thats why the story is good. it shows she's not alone and she herself isn't perfect. that she is still learning from others even if its from reminiscence / flashback, or only realising the lesson in the current timeline of the story. Well, ofc shes overpowered cuz she literally is part of the 'hero' party that defeat the demon lord or something, but that does not make her a selfish 'i am the only mofo that can do everything cuz i wanted to' girlboss, and thats why many ppl likes her. and yes, its overrated. but with how many trash this industry has given, i'd eat up frieren story's any time, any days. GIMME THOSE SHIT IMMA CONSUME THEM! is what i would shout at them, because of all the bullshit story they' cooked.
@MW_Asura
@MW_Asura 2 ай бұрын
Meanwhile strong anime and game female characters always being very liked characters
@bobbombar6711
@bobbombar6711 2 ай бұрын
​@facundomontivero2299 she is written as a being that is not human & does not gave a human perspective but learns it . That's what makes her so good as a carater . She in the anime& mang is a 1000 + yrs old trying to come to grips with feelings : A) for humans B) one human I particular C)carring on her & her masters style / school to eliminate deamons from her world
@facundomontivero2299
@facundomontivero2299 2 ай бұрын
@@bobbombar6711 Still overrated.
@seccogabrielq
@seccogabrielq 2 ай бұрын
A great movie that is forgotten, and has a kid and a robot as protags: Iron Giant, you have no idea how much I cried when I saw him finding superman in the fighting game warner made... and its a movie about a giant robot and his friend! That movie is just perfect!!
@kylewood4488-b9r
@kylewood4488-b9r 2 ай бұрын
Hollywood can argue against this all they want but Japan has proven that people do like strong women when they are written correctly and in a good story.
@tehevilbunny
@tehevilbunny 2 ай бұрын
THIS.
@Ben_Kimber
@Ben_Kimber 2 ай бұрын
For example, Mikasa in Attack on Titan. She’s a badass, strong, and skilled female character who’s actually well-written. The strength and natural fighting ability she has isn’t because she’s a woman. It’s because of her bloodline. There’s a male character (Levi) who shares her surname and is even more skilled than she is. What’s more, her physical and athletic prowess is utilized in such a way that it complements the unique strengths of Eren and Armin as well. She’s highly capable, but she can’t do it all alone, and her affection to a fault for Eren can lead her to make rash, unwise decisions when he is in trouble. In other words, Mikasa has strengths AND weaknesses, which is more than can be said for many modern female characters.
@facundomontivero2299
@facundomontivero2299 2 ай бұрын
Also when they're hot and wearing sexy outfits. You forgot about those requirements. Hell, sometimes that's all they need. Just be sexy and hot , there's no need for any actual writing put into their characters.
@facundomontivero2299
@facundomontivero2299 2 ай бұрын
​@@Ben_Kimber Dude, ease up on the simping.
@Ben_Kimber
@Ben_Kimber 2 ай бұрын
@@facundomontivero2299 I merely used Mikasa as an example, considering AoT is one of my favourite anime shows.
@farlonmuentes6004
@farlonmuentes6004 2 ай бұрын
It's not about the lesson of the story anymore. It's about how many "representations" can we fit in one movie. I didn't know that I like breaking bad because Walter is a man. Not because of its carefully woven plot that kept me engaged. I didn't know that I like Ironman because tony was a dude and not because of how his character had evolved from being an arrogant ahole to a selfless man who learned that he had something to fight for.
@boredboi6279
@boredboi6279 2 ай бұрын
Fr I'll probably get death threated for this but not everything needs a lot of representation something can be good without having a lot of representation
@facundomontivero2299
@facundomontivero2299 2 ай бұрын
​​@@boredboi6279 Makes a movie set in feudal Japan and casts Matt Damon in the lead role.
@boredboi6279
@boredboi6279 2 ай бұрын
@@facundomontivero2299 why does he look like an older Mark Whalberg 💀
@facundomontivero2299
@facundomontivero2299 2 ай бұрын
@@boredboi6279 And why does Mark Whalberg look like a less handsome Leonardo DiCaprio?
@boredboi6279
@boredboi6279 2 ай бұрын
@@facundomontivero2299 maybe they're all brothers
@Jackson-ub1uv
@Jackson-ub1uv 2 ай бұрын
8:16 The issue _isn't_ that they're reinventing the wheel, it's that they're _taking_ the wheel and stretching it into a square to be more inclusive of the other shapes.
@Noble1271
@Noble1271 2 ай бұрын
"What hole does the triangle go in? That's right, the square hole"
@velvetrosang4684
@velvetrosang4684 2 ай бұрын
They're uninventing the wheel, basically.
@bobbombar6711
@bobbombar6711 2 ай бұрын
No ,my thinking is they lack the ability to recognize the basic shapes in thes case. Because they were taught & told it dies not matter you do you basicly.
@JohnBrown-tw2qi
@JohnBrown-tw2qi Ай бұрын
Dude they don’t really care about inclusivity; it’s just lazy pandering to the lowest common denominator so that the investors stay happy.
@jakeking974
@jakeking974 2 ай бұрын
"growing up, I never thought about gender" SAME. I'm a 28 year old dude who is proud of the fact I watched Hannah Montana and Kim Possible and the like on Disney Channel cause that was just good television and you can't convince me otherwise. It was FUN, and that's enough. I'd probably have had more self-doubt about it if people had openly been telling me "if you watch girl shows, that makes you girly and that's okay" because, as I said, I'm a dude and I'm okay with it without constant reaffirmation from the peanut gallery, which is now social media as well.
@steel8231
@steel8231 2 ай бұрын
If politics is a bigger priority than the story, there's no way for the story to not suck. On some level Disney realizes this and is trying to milk nostalgia to put asses in seats.
@aethertoast4320
@aethertoast4320 2 ай бұрын
"To have morals" That is where you are misunderstanding modern "writers." They have basically taken the idea of post-modern deconstruction and ran with it to the point where the idea of morals, virtues, and even logical consistency doesn't matter/mean anything amymore. It is really annoying.
@RocketCouch
@RocketCouch 2 ай бұрын
So I came up with a bit of a conspiracy theory about these kinds of characters: That these strong female lead "characters" (personally I find it more accurate to call them plot devices) are not written to appeal to everyday people, but rather to be relatable for the producers' own spoiled nepo-babies instead. Think about it, what kind of person would relate to characters like these, who come into the world already having huge advantages in life, but just need to be given cause enough to use those advantages? If you answered with spoiled, unmotivated rich kids, welcome to my rabbit hole.
@Angrenost02
@Angrenost02 2 ай бұрын
The Mulan remake is by far the worst Disney remake, because it goes against everything the original movie was about.
@ryanwight9116
@ryanwight9116 2 ай бұрын
Me: *a writer who recently self-published with a partial female lead* writing a good female character, without using sex appeal, is not hard, if I can do it anyone it At one point, I was working on an action/martal art based story based on a girl named Daria. She wins almost all of her fights, but it’s how she wins. She beats opponents bigger than her by NOT fighting them head on. She wins usually through strategy, using their weaknesses, and a good mix of dirty fighting. And yes, she does lose fights, but she gets back up, learns from her mistakes, gets back up and wins. In other words, character development
@burnttoast26
@burnttoast26 2 ай бұрын
Like animated Mulan. No woman I know, even ones who work out, could beat a man in a straight-up fight. But being crafty, using weaknesses? That's the ticket
@ryanwight9116
@ryanwight9116 2 ай бұрын
@@burnttoast26 exactly, that’s why my character Daria uses strategy, fighting dirty. and insane speed/agility to win. Craftiness is the key to win
@facundomontivero2299
@facundomontivero2299 2 ай бұрын
Strategy? Like what?
@JohnBrown-tw2qi
@JohnBrown-tw2qi Ай бұрын
@@burnttoast26to be fair, some women are like professional fighters and 6ft tall. I’m a reasonably fit guy but I dunno about my chances if a female MMA champion wanted to Mortal Kombat me.
@kookoo9235
@kookoo9235 27 күн бұрын
@@JohnBrown-tw2qi Well, if you have no training a 60+ kg elite fighter woman could kick you once in thigh and you would be helpless to do anything because it tends to cramp the muscle with proper hit if you haven't got exposure to that kind of trauma. That's why fighters in MMA and kickboxing/muay thai train for that and spend quite a time at it too. But you could also bum rush and just overpower her which would likely lead to you winning but if you dawdle at mid range you will likely get fucked up.
@J.P1981
@J.P1981 2 ай бұрын
As an example: Chitose, whose one of the main leads in Like a Dragon Infinite Wealth, is my second favorite character introduced in that game. Or Mustang and Victra in the Red Rising series. They're fantastic characters introduced less than ten years ago. All it takes is good writing for a character to be liked, male and female alike.
@facundomontivero2299
@facundomontivero2299 2 ай бұрын
Idk who any of those people are.
@J.P1981
@J.P1981 2 ай бұрын
@@facundomontivero2299 Okay I technically went out of bounds because these are video game and book characters, but I think my line of thinking still holds up with them.
@LikeAFemaleDog
@LikeAFemaleDog 2 ай бұрын
@8:05 "Can people just stop taking old shit and twist it;" "Make your own shit." Funnily enough, that's what most writers want. A lot of people got into creative writing to write their own stories, they want to be like the writers they grew up with, and they want to inspire children the same way they were inspired. But the industry doesn't function that way anymore, it shifted a long time ago, investors and studios both figured out that it's safer for them to rehash, remake, re-twist, reshuffle old stories because brand recognition sells more tickets than creating new IPs. That's why the vast majority of blockbuster movies either rely on celebrities, like Ryan Reynolds or Dwayne Johnson, or are retellings of old stories, like Mulan or Uncharted. The writers can't do much, they're forced to write about what they're paid to write. Perhaps the quality shifted so much because it's the writers trying to protest that practice, and are purposefully making the movies worse, in hopes it's less profitable and the industry shifts again, or all the good writers gave up on the industry and moved to other ventures instead.
@Pherim_
@Pherim_ 2 ай бұрын
It goes both ways. There is writers taking IPs just so they can write their stories and have almost to no connection to said IPs. Not cause they need to, but said IP is a easy way out, cause their writing would not be accepted as is, so they need a scapegoat
@Sputnik5790
@Sputnik5790 2 ай бұрын
Duke nukem advertising probably was just "he is a strong men."
@BarioIDL
@BarioIDL 2 ай бұрын
llenn pfp
@rickrogan2355
@rickrogan2355 2 ай бұрын
Modern western media boils down to "Representation is more important than writing", even to the point where if the writing is good it feels like an accident.
@liquidrock2u
@liquidrock2u 2 ай бұрын
Disney women went from cute, innocent, damsels like Snow White, Cinderella ect, to empowered woman with character like Mulan and Rapunzel. Now we have overpowered women that are perfect from the beginning and can do anything. It's either going to go through one more phase of getting worse, or the end the overpowered women will be ending soon.
@Mommyslittlebunny
@Mommyslittlebunny 2 ай бұрын
As a shy timid boy myself I love strong dominant cute women in movies when they’re able capable of being strong whilst also being flawed at the same time it’s just bad writing that ruins it all the time but when there’s good writing about a girl character becoming strong throughout the film I end having the biggest crush because when the girl naturally becomes strong or shows her strength through facing complicated challenges and she ends up beating the obstacles in her way naturally that’s far more attractive than just some women just having overpowered strength without much struggle at all
@RobertLutece909
@RobertLutece909 2 ай бұрын
"... no market for a 30 something year old lawyer in Los Angeles." IRL she gets thousands of matches, even a woman quite a bit less attractive than Tatiana Maslany.
@Pherim_
@Pherim_ 2 ай бұрын
Even a truly ugly woman still gets more matches then any man in those apps/sites, even if just guys and wanting a one night stand, they still do get more matches
@Juhno
@Juhno 2 ай бұрын
I have a lot of thoughts on this.. But maybe the best way to sum it up is to mention that I've practically given up on American movies and TV series. The last one I watched was probably the latest season of Stranger Things. And it's from 2022. And I would have done the same for American comics if I'd ever read them. Almost everything nowadays is ideological and/or political. Even in hiring, identity matters, not experience. An action spectacle worth hundreds of millions can be directed by an Oscar-winning director...whose Oscar is for a indie film about a woman-camera-car roadtrip....with no experience in action films or big budgets. Because she's a woman who is gay, trans and/or non-white.
@Juhno
@Juhno 2 ай бұрын
8:45 - And two additions. One of the purposes of fiction is escapism, which is endangered by the constant ideological and political bombardment in these productions. And the second purpose is to show people new perspectives and life different from their own. That's why that "There must be representation for me, without it I can't enjoy this!" is stupid... and very narcissistic. And I really believe that one reason of this crap is that some people try to write to general audience like they wrote fanficts when they were younger...
@Pherim_
@Pherim_ 2 ай бұрын
​@@JuhnoRepresantation is nice, but not a necessity. Anime is popular as it can be, and unless you only watch slife of life or the well written Romcons, you will never feel represented by anyone on screen, yet, they dont complain about it
@futavadumnezo
@futavadumnezo 2 ай бұрын
I tried to stay away from VTubers and don't get addicted for years, but here I am... I've fallen, boys. I'm getting addicted to your content, send help!
@tomoyukisaito5275
@tomoyukisaito5275 2 ай бұрын
Because yes at 5 when i was watching a show about floating magical talking minature humans fighting pirates that could get exploded dropped 80 feet from the air and survive basically being eaten by a crocodile I was thinking "man. where's all the girls cuz this is a sausage fest"
@trawll8659
@trawll8659 2 ай бұрын
Usually in most movies the message used to be "You can't hold up the world alone, find some allies to help shoulder the weight" or something along those lines whereas most modern female protagonists are portrayed to get stronger when they forgo the help of others and just 'Let it out' or some other BS.
@pieshka4509
@pieshka4509 2 ай бұрын
It's not that they grew up viewing them like this, it's that they became leftwing activists and have to force everything through that lense. There are videos of people saying Shrek 2 is a queer movie because somehow the straight couple that is Shrek and Fiona is actually not "heteronormative" because she's an ogre and shaves. These same people view classic knight woos the princess stories as grape culture patriarchy. And that general line of thought is what we keep seeing in these movies
@TheArbiter_117
@TheArbiter_117 2 ай бұрын
Time to rewatch the LotR extended editions I guess.
@KirillGrushevoi
@KirillGrushevoi 2 ай бұрын
Sadly, its not only Disney. Anyone remember Predator and Predator 2? FOR ME its amazing movies in fantasy, action genre. (For their time) And even 2010 Predators was okay. And then 2018 Predator remake comes out and BAM! Predator is not a enemy for humans! What a plot twist. It sounds interesting. BUT! 5 minutes later he dies like piece of paper. Professional hunter eleminated like a noob. What was next? Who will stop primordial predator? LITERALLY team of brain rotted degenerates. (Im not kidding)
@tomoyukisaito5275
@tomoyukisaito5275 2 ай бұрын
What I also do not understand is. WHAT is the point of trying to show that Woman can be powerful and strong and that they are just of capable of men? Seriously think about it in these kinds of shows like lord of the rings, star wars, even marvels and dc. The massive army that goes and fights Sauron in the early stages of the war? Guess what they are 99% fucken men. Guess who we see constantly geting tossed around humiliated, brutally killed off and just are treated as basic fodder. the MEN The one female in said army? What did she do? MANAGING TO CUT OFF SAURON"S FINGERS AND INJURING HIM. Original star wars. We see high ranked prestieged officers getting forced choked to death by Vader. Thousands of star trooper men going against rebels being tossed around and tossed aside. Everyone is afraid of fucken Vader. Princess Leia? Leader of the Rebellion? Could give zero god damn fucks about this dude in black armor. This is why i say there's no god damn point in trying to show something like that, BECAUSE it's already happening it's already being done. We aren't watching Wonder woman leading a army of amazon women and watching them get brutually murdered only for super man to appear and save the day. We aren't watching Riply and a elite team of other female crew mates getting picked off one by one by the Alien until the one male janitor suddenly goes rambo saves who he can and escapes. No we are growing up learning and seeing that ANYONE can make a difference and we are all strong in our own ways or not. we don't need to be told to believe something When it is already facts.
@boredboi6279
@boredboi6279 2 ай бұрын
Honestly does anyone even like the amazonians besides wonder woman?
@facundomontivero2299
@facundomontivero2299 2 ай бұрын
Injure Sauron? What are you talking about? Wasn't it that she killed the Wizard King?
@facundomontivero2299
@facundomontivero2299 2 ай бұрын
Actually, I feel like a lot of people would pay good money these days to go see those movie examples you mentioned at the end.
@TheForsakenEagle
@TheForsakenEagle 2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, making new things goes completely against their motives.
@vergillives9890
@vergillives9890 2 ай бұрын
Dont worry as long as her only fear isnt her being awesome enough somehow that will be better storytelling
@nathanpapp432
@nathanpapp432 2 ай бұрын
Audiences clearly dont mind bad writing, as evidenced by Marvel's success. Its being lectured to that audiences hate.
@ectothermic
@ectothermic 2 ай бұрын
Carol Danvers (Captain Marvel) is such a cool and nuanced character across her comics even when they're not that good that she's my favourite comics character. The Marvel movies did her so dirty now I can't even mention her without getting a scoff from some people. These movies don't just ruin themselves, because they step on the legacy of others they actively erode what good was already there. Captain Marvel was especially egregious because it retconned a buncha stuff the other movies had competently and very purposely set up for the future. People also think bad remakes aren't bad because the original exists but the remakes being so bad means there won't be good content again. Ever.
@darknessglitch2nd382
@darknessglitch2nd382 Ай бұрын
This is the equivalent of the guy cutting butter and him calling it ART
@5mihs
@5mihs 2 ай бұрын
I´m so with you at the stupid remaking stuff. If they´re redoing a story, without thinking about why it is what it is, changing so much it looses all meaning, why not make something new?
@raptor2657
@raptor2657 2 ай бұрын
"Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort or destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good." J.R.R Tolkien 7:50
@TajinQ
@TajinQ 2 ай бұрын
Evil is reactionary
@Razgriz85
@Razgriz85 Ай бұрын
Worst thing about the live-action Mulan remake was that it was filmed in the area where the Uyghur concentration camps were located, and the lead actress denies the camps exist.
@djriddleandgmoney5930
@djriddleandgmoney5930 2 ай бұрын
We all know the strongest and coolest women are Wallachian and possibly meow sometimes.
@marzblood
@marzblood 2 ай бұрын
17:32 go off queen 👏
@ehned
@ehned 2 ай бұрын
„you being enough“ as a message is good when the story is about finding your place in the world as an individual but if the story is about saving the world or overcoming an evil much larger than yourself it’s a shitty and harmful message. humans have achieved so much because we are social beings and need support, discourse and other ppl and opinions to grow and achieve greater things we are incapable of achieving by ourselves. to me these movies/shows feel like nothing but a power fantasy for girls like op mc isekai manga for boys, sadly they try to target a much wider audience who isn’t looking for a quick and easy guilty pleasure and fail horribly as a consequence 😂
@RagingRaygun
@RagingRaygun 2 ай бұрын
The whole thing is like getting stabbed by a pink colored knife and complaining, but then the person who stabbed you is like, "Oh so you hate the color pink? You're just a pink hating bigot!" And then everyone who likes the color pink agrees with the stabber.
@not_smart_and_not_a_toy
@not_smart_and_not_a_toy Ай бұрын
companies "people dont like strong female protagonists" toph casually being stronger than the mc and kiosho probably being one of the strongest characters in avatar
@jakeking974
@jakeking974 2 ай бұрын
"Gimme back Dr. House" YEAH! Gregory House is exactly what this country needs: the bitter, offensive pill that will make things better.
@kookoo9235
@kookoo9235 27 күн бұрын
I've been thinking this for years now. Bad writers just use this "sexist" this "racist" that as a cop out because they are just that bad at writing, they can't do the job they were hired for so they defend themselves with that stupid crap. They are completely unable to accept that they just aren't that good at what they trained for and accepting that would be the first step to getting better and looking their writing objectively but they just can't do that thus will always remain as the subpar writers that they are.
@BeldansFire
@BeldansFire 2 ай бұрын
9:05 Paws um, its to make Money.
@gillieshooter4742
@gillieshooter4742 2 ай бұрын
its not always the case, but a lot of these tragedies are the result of them taking what would generally be a pretty good, sometimes actually badass, female character... and just turn it into "is strong because woman" not strong because of their CHARACTER.
@adarkwind4712
@adarkwind4712 2 ай бұрын
Writers' strike is not the reason for the state of the industry.
@saltylemonz258
@saltylemonz258 2 ай бұрын
I just started POE.... girl... 20k hours? Really? You have time to make youtube too? Teach me your ways!
@pawsvtuber
@pawsvtuber 2 ай бұрын
@@saltylemonz258 i don't recommend my way , I just ignored life daily 😅 , not exactly healthy
@Azrael178
@Azrael178 2 ай бұрын
Marketing something as diverse and with female representation works wonders... Because they have trained people who care about the quality of the show to avoid the product marketed that way
@kingmric
@kingmric 2 ай бұрын
Many of these stories women that they're enough and will often tell men they're not enough.
@mrbeastmaster1459
@mrbeastmaster1459 2 ай бұрын
Best female main characters I've seen recently; Maomao from Apothecary Diaries and Frieren from Frieren Beyond Journey's End. Both fantastic anime and displays two different ways to approach making female characters. Maomao lives in dynasty era fantasy China where women have restricted roles and being a young girl in a red-light district making her prone to being harmed. Her reaction to being kidnapped and sold is a nonchalant "Welp, guess I'm going to be late for dinner". Funny how being a woman in an oppressive system who just doesn't care because she'd rather focus on making drugs than complaining about life garners a lot more sympathy than being an empowered girl boss lawyer with literal superpowers who complains all the time. Frieren is an incredibly powerful mage with the personality of a very adorable immature immortal being. Her story is tied to her immortality and the rapid passage of time, her lifespan meaning everyone whom she cares about will die before her. The focus is on a character's story, learning to savor the beauty of the moment with others. Like most characters in the show, she doesn't need to be a woman for her character to make sense, because her journey is one any human can relate to. Option 1: A realistic look at women and how their sex does affect their lives; but not portraying the entirety of men as evil and women victims, but rather having a wide range of good and evil characters on both sides Option 2: Having a character struggle be very human, relatable, and well written, then simply making the character a woman
@facundomontivero2299
@facundomontivero2299 2 ай бұрын
Frieren is overrated. Himmel and Stark are much more compelling characters.
@mrbeastmaster1459
@mrbeastmaster1459 2 ай бұрын
@@facundomontivero2299 They're fantastic characters, I was just giving examples of female characters I believe to be well written
@facundomontivero2299
@facundomontivero2299 2 ай бұрын
@@mrbeastmaster1459 That's a pretty low bar then.
@mrbeastmaster1459
@mrbeastmaster1459 2 ай бұрын
@@facundomontivero2299 The Acolyte shows the bar goes far lower to be honest
@facundomontivero2299
@facundomontivero2299 2 ай бұрын
@@mrbeastmaster1459 Still, that isn't enough of a good reason to make a big deal out of characters like Frieren and Maomao.
@SpitshineSneakers
@SpitshineSneakers 2 ай бұрын
Master Samwise has a more recent video about Hollywood's obsession with power, which I think gets to the root of the problem on why this kind of writing is so bad and so prevalent.
@karere1s
@karere1s 2 ай бұрын
A lot of the current batch of bad female characters seem to be written to be a walking "gotcha moment"... Their only purpose is to spout snarky quips
@BarioIDL
@BarioIDL 2 ай бұрын
it shows lack of respect toward women when they don't put any effort into it
@dragonturtle2703
@dragonturtle2703 2 ай бұрын
Stories are more than just a message and the sugar to hide the medicine. Stories don’t even need a message to be good.
@9catsinatrenchcoat-mq1jr
@9catsinatrenchcoat-mq1jr 2 ай бұрын
"I played 20k hours of PoE, i don't have time to watch marvel" truly based gamer
@EbenezerEibenhardt
@EbenezerEibenhardt 2 ай бұрын
I'm sorry, but if these 'modern audience writers' managed to graduate creative writing without even the basics of the hero's journey properly under their belts, either their diplomas are hand-written in crayon on preschool construction paper, or their brains are.
@walkermott1750
@walkermott1750 2 ай бұрын
Using Edge of Tomorrow is funny because it is based off a manga so it is once again Japanese media being better
@ugib8377
@ugib8377 2 ай бұрын
This thumbnail was amazing. Also where is she from? Her accent is alluring as heck...
@boredboi6279
@boredboi6279 2 ай бұрын
I'm assuming German but I'm probably extremely wrong
@marmyeater
@marmyeater 2 ай бұрын
13:59- And I'm not because she was never a warrior. She was a mage. This man gets several things completely wrong.
@James_randomleters
@James_randomleters 2 ай бұрын
3:40 She-hulk, apparently.
@HorrorBr1nger
@HorrorBr1nger 2 ай бұрын
One of the Best writing for Main + supporting characters there is IMO: Fullmetal Alchemist-Brotherhood
@sainttan
@sainttan 2 ай бұрын
I feel like this types of movies would just be average or normal back in the 80's or progressive depending on the country. It seems audience of today are more grown up or even tired from the usual writings this types of movie falls into. Is this the result of the writer strike, that the only ones left to make these average movies.
@Jackson-ub1uv
@Jackson-ub1uv 2 ай бұрын
I was one of the 20 people who watched Hawkeye :D
@Milo-it1tf
@Milo-it1tf 2 ай бұрын
There are some people who hate the movies just because there’s a woman main character, there are extreme incels who throw a fit over that
@seikijin2308
@seikijin2308 2 ай бұрын
Ellen Ripley will always be my standard for a strong women. That's set the bar a bit too high *sign* but some1 litterally challenging what giving her nightmares and basically PTSD.. I couldn't do it. The funny part is the main character if the latest Predator Movie Prey I felt was the worst part of the movie but they did the predator enough justice, especially compared to recent that even a terrible main character isn't completely enough to ruin a movie.. but it is a big factor.
@facundomontivero2299
@facundomontivero2299 2 ай бұрын
Ripley is overrated, imo.
@an2qzavok
@an2qzavok 2 ай бұрын
Ah, I wish I was as blessed by bliss of ignorance as Paws is.
@snakekingblues3017
@snakekingblues3017 2 ай бұрын
But i do like strong wombats
@AdityaKumar-jf2dk
@AdityaKumar-jf2dk 2 ай бұрын
lets make power paws boys :)
@cthomaspeasant3059
@cthomaspeasant3059 2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately most of if not all of the Hollywood writers are captured by the concept of DEI, Same goes for people in the gaming industry, And this concept of DEI demands that everything you ever love being downgraded and turned into slop for the sake of "inclusion" even tho we all can see that it's just garbage
@Ixar900
@Ixar900 2 ай бұрын
And to be honest i’m tired of every movie having women as protagonist and most of the time they are just race swap of a man
@Pherim_
@Pherim_ 2 ай бұрын
If your Character could swap gender without any issue, its a bad character. Gender is integral to a character strengh and weakness, and experiences. If no matter what, your character is going to be Strong and Smart and... at what point you are making a character thats real?
@facundomontivero2299
@facundomontivero2299 2 ай бұрын
​@@Pherim_ Originally the character of Ripley from Alien was going to be male.
@Ixar900
@Ixar900 2 ай бұрын
@@Pherim_ sometimes they even use the same background make even less sense
@jamesdesoyo7104
@jamesdesoyo7104 2 ай бұрын
I too don't think of what the character is like thats why I like transformer not because of megan fox really
@phnx-en7hi
@phnx-en7hi 2 ай бұрын
Yet they call people who call these issues "hateful" ists and phobes eg. "Nerdrotic", "Critical Drinker", and this guy. They just do this to diminish their positions without actually listening to their legitimate criticisms. I hate this thinking so much.
@AstroE4477
@AstroE4477 2 ай бұрын
YYEEEAAAHHH NEW PAWS VIDEO
@boredboi6279
@boredboi6279 2 ай бұрын
10:23 wait so the story was already in favor of girls but they changed it anyways unknowingly or not that's pretty funny
@ms.blackfire2927
@ms.blackfire2927 2 ай бұрын
1:30 me to like I have not watched Disney products in 10 years. Even since I discovered anime and Manga and also got a good gaming pc. I don't need to watch s***** same s***, Disney movies.
@Jackson-ub1uv
@Jackson-ub1uv 2 ай бұрын
This video helps explain why characters like the Doctor, at least until the Thirteenth Doctor, are so good. The Doctor, especially the Twelfth, strives to do all he can to help someone in need no matter _how_ difficult it might be. The Doctor _is_ virtuous and seemingly infallible, but only because it's who he _wants_ to be, and we sometimes see what he's like if he ever decides to _stop_ being kind; he helps because it's decent and because he knows that running away means leaving people to die, but the fact he gives it his all despite knowing his best may not be sufficient is enough to make his character interesting. That said, _God help you_ if he ever finds a reason to stop you, as he is clever enough and _vengeful_ enough to rain eternal hell on someone if they piss him off (as long as there aren't children around, of course).
@joker111976
@joker111976 2 ай бұрын
I'll say this if you want to see how bad modern cinema is go watch hit movies from the 70s-90s. Ignore the special effects and bad cameras and pay attention to the stories and you'll be blown away on the originality to stuff post 2000. It seems like instead of new everyone wants to rewrite something popular instead
@Sherudons
@Sherudons 2 ай бұрын
No chance of making new things, the new writers are a block of "I can make this better" sort of arrogant thinkers, complete nobodies insulting giants, it's going to take a huge social shift back to normalcy before anything new comes out. So enjoy your remakes of the remastered extra cut editions... for a while.
@paleflame
@paleflame 2 ай бұрын
This is what happens when you hire fanfiction overly political writers in to positions of power and it's just dumb.
@2nd_Directorate
@2nd_Directorate 2 ай бұрын
Generations of entitlement paired with incompetence, inexperience and no accountability. Topped off with inmeasureable ego. This lead to all this garbage we have atm. And to make it worse they injected DEI too...recipe for disaster.
@Samagachi
@Samagachi 2 ай бұрын
“Women”
@3barze
@3barze 2 ай бұрын
WAIT. You're a PoE degenerate like me? You are now my oshi.
@KatySad_
@KatySad_ 2 ай бұрын
Meow
@stuartcluff5841
@stuartcluff5841 2 ай бұрын
The reason why George Lucas sold Star Wars to Disney was because he was tired of the death threats that were sent to him because he made the Prequels. So it's technically the fans fault.
@FidoZip1988
@FidoZip1988 2 ай бұрын
Try Watching the Critical Drinker Production Hell.
@ZonycOrder
@ZonycOrder 2 ай бұрын
I think I don't need to watch this video. I watch Paws, I like strong, opinionated women. So, yeah...
@Uldihaa
@Uldihaa 2 ай бұрын
In defense of She-Hulk, that was pretty much what happened in the comics, too.
@ghostshrimp5006
@ghostshrimp5006 2 ай бұрын
Not to this degree, She still struggled through things, most of the time she has to use her brain more than her bron. She isn’t nearly as strong as the hulk, not to mention her most stand out moments is when she’s in the courtroom being a lawyer like in Civil War, She isn’t hulk again, she’s one of Bruce’s anchors keeps the Hulk from going berserk, She’s also a crime fighter that deals with the problems in the streets instead of the city is a whole. She was a fully realized character before Disney Butcher it
@syressx9098
@syressx9098 2 ай бұрын
She is hundreds time more awesome, funny, and more interesting in comics tho.
@Uldihaa
@Uldihaa 2 ай бұрын
@@ghostshrimp5006 Over many, many issues. She became a Hulk and was back practicing law really quickly, with very little time spent adjusting.
@Uldihaa
@Uldihaa 2 ай бұрын
@syressx9098 Well yeah, because they had time to make her that way. Early She-Hulk was mainly comedic, with _heavy_ emphasis on her 4th wallbreaking and sexiness.
@ghostshrimp5006
@ghostshrimp5006 2 ай бұрын
@@Uldihaa Right and that’s an issue with the comic writers, not knowing what to do with her. She’s had her moments, but there’s not enough people who care to do her justice
@Window_ig
@Window_ig 2 ай бұрын
15:15 nah, they probably just saw the woke movement and were like: 👌👀👌👀👌👀 good shit go౦ԁ sHit👌 thats ✔ some good👌shit right👌there👌 right✔there ✔✔if i do ƽaү so my self 💯 i say so 💯 thats what im talking about right there right there (chorus: ʳᶦᵍʰᵗ ᵗʰᵉʳᵉ) mMMMMᎷМ💯 👌👌 👌НO0ОଠOOOOOОଠଠOoooᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒ👌 👌 💯 👌 👀 👀 👀 👌👌Good shit
@janehrahan5116
@janehrahan5116 2 ай бұрын
Only semi related, I hate the over serialization of tv. Star trek is one of my favorite franchises... or rather it was, see, old star trek only ever dipped its toes into serialization, the most serialized arcs being enterprise's xindi arc, which even then was mostly individual episodes with a lose overarching narrative. Basically any modern show now though "has" to be serialized. It is suffering.
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