Audiophile CD Player for less than the cost of dinner? (Tyler TDM-02)

[@jeremy_h]

I'm pretty convinced that audiophiles hate CD specifically for its low entry cost. It's a caste society and CD made it really hard to look down on people.

[@jerryspann8713]

Audiophiles loved CDs when the first CD players came out. Back then a CD player would cost more than some people made in a week. Only the rich people could afford them. The cost made them "Audiophile" quality. Now the audiophiles love vinyl because some turntables cost as much as a months salary and the records cost up to $30 to $40 each. I remember audiophiles turned their noses up at records in the 80s. Oh CDs have no hissing, popping, or scratching. Now they are hated because the peasants can afford them.

[@xaenon]

It's not really 'audiophiles', per se. It's just the rich bragging about being rich. Being an 'audiophile' is just ONE way by which they do this. Very few of them have the 'golden ear' they claim they do. The principle applies to almost everything they have - cars, wristwatches, etc.

[@pedromonteiro6043]

I’m not an audiophile but I do prefer the sound of vinyl when compared to CD sound. Saying that, I have no doubts that the CD music format is unbeatable in terms of sound quality, convenience of use and low cost of the hardware needed to read the information in a CD.

[@nvo7024]

Not really. A sound source is just a small fraction of an audiophile setup. A dedicated, well designed listening hall, especially in a big city environment, is a whole different story.

[@SkwareUS]

@@jerryspann8713 one reason why records>cd. is that you can include skips on purpose, for example one of the last songs of Electric Wizard Dopethrone on LP. It skips over the laugh track until you take the needle off, cd version is whack, doesn't offer that COOL feature. i was literally mind blown.

[@nickbitten6037]

I agree that CD players can be a good entry into sound for a budget price, but there is something satisfying about using a decent, well built and heavy CD player- the way the drawer slides quietly open. My Sacd player is a case in point. But i also love tape and records as collecting them is great. Tend to find that jazz cd' are often more expensive, along with early 1980' s ones Sacd's and XR cd. Keep the the interesting content.

[@jjquinn2004]

Nice video. I have 6,100+ CDs and my experience re what you get for your money is similar to yours. But there's another reason to stay away from spending too much: over the course of the ownership of your music system, you will very likely have to replace the CD player multiple times. I bought a nice set of Kenwood components (inc a CD player) and Bose 601 speakers in 1985 and used them until 2012. During that time, I must have had at least 4 or 5 CD players. So, they're not going to last. In 2012 I bought a new system with a Denon CD player that was over $1,000 and within a couple of years its little electronic brain started getting scrambled. I still use it, but when it starts acting up, I plug in my Sony Walkman. Moral of the story: don't spend a lot of money on a CD player.

[@Recordology]

Very interesting.....

[@jjquinn2004]

@@Recordology Yeah, and I even tried different styles i.e. the single disc (as I have now); the 5 or 6-CD stack; and the multi-disc platter that revolves. Eventually had trouble with all of them. Interestingly, my two Blu-ray players have been fine.

[@bikdav]

@@jjquinn2004 Yes, that's interesting. I have a Blu-ray player also. Blu-ray player s are the only single play units that I could aquire. The biggest problem with mine - an OPPO - is that it doesn't have CD program play (at least not that I could find or figure out).

[@alexanderbelov6892]

This may be some problem with player laser optics clarity. Did you try CD player service/self service?

[@agj67]

I got this cd player. It is a nice sounding player and good point on entry level cd players versus tape and vinyl equipment.

[@cibdizzy]

We use to have a bully in my school and his name was Tyler. Because of this I'm not getting a CD player

[@Recordology]

lol

[@MarkKost-m1n]

I didn't even like cds till a couple years ago- we take what we can get -but cds are great, compact, easy to take care of, and the sound has gotten pretty warm, for digital . I was Mr. Vinyl until the early 2000's . And now with all this retro vinyl krap and various pressings-I don't miss vinyl a bit . I used to prefer cassette tape, mainly for editing, and tape got so good right before cds came in, but vinyl is like buying a Model T-its for a hobbyist . When it became possible to burn cds,that's it . Cds are a fine medium .

[@Andersljungberg]

The question is whether or not music has a higher sound quality. on Tidal or Qobus than on a regular CD. especially when choosing hi-res

[@joeblankenship377]

I have a Sony D-EJ721 that I found on ebay for 30 bucks. It has an optical digital out. I haven't hooked it to my DAC yet, but it sounds pretty great on its own, especially with "G-Protection" turned off. I need to find a DAC that's about the same size, and same color so I can stack it on top and it'll look like my own little transport/DAC combo.

[@zeusincoming282]

I remember when Portable CD Players were Square with Metal Bases. They also took 4 Double As unlike the ones that take 2 AAs like today.

[@Recordology]

Yes! They were BEASTS!

[@Fotosaurus56]

I use these type players for my CDs because they are stand alone and I can use various speaker systems as well as my car and bass guitar processor so I can jam to my favorite CDs without bothering the neighborhood. I do like the usb powered one. Nice video.

[@Dr_Lazarus]

Loving the cd player reviews, interesting that people have to spend more to try and get around lower reliability formats. Compare to the cd, pop it in and groove to cd quality music. Note I still love my Turntable and the experience is still better in the emersion from cover to platter. But I prefer CD for its consistent Quality. Keep making the videos fella.

[@Recordology]

Thank you :)

[@Andersljungberg]

NOTE CD players in the premium class today can also play other than CDs such as flac files from USB memory. also in hi-res

[@lesrogers7310]

The difference between cheaper CD players and pricier units really are minimal. You do tend to find that with most digital formats.

[@RobiticDuck]

Currently running the basic Onn 1818A used to have a really nice RCA player that had programmable FM/AM stations and anti skip. It was awesome, I do miss it.

[@nosa-l3p]

Thanks for this video 💜💜💜💜

[@headinthecloudsagain1735]

It would be cool if these got popular again

[@7JANEWAY]

It would be smart to get a CD player and CDs now while they’re still cheap. Not surprisingly, there’s most likely going to be a CD resurgence after the current vinyl resurgence is over. Then you’ll find the price of CDs and players skyrocket-if you can find them, that is.

[@noeljosephdelacruz7451]

Yeah, I’ve gone through CD players in different styles. I’ve seen it in a boombox, I’ve seen it in the form of a 3-disc sack via the loading tray, and I’ve also seen it as a portable unit for on the go. Who will know if a $64 or $65 Arafuna from Amazon will work in my dad‘s new car via a Bluetooth transmitter? Well, I have to wait and see. It is a portable unit for playing on the go, has ASP for uninterrupted listening experience, and has bluetooth in it. But hold on, there is a feature, I’m sure, that other brands like Monodeal and Hott don’t have. Hint: it acts as if it were a turntable and is used as DJ tool. It’s not the scratch, but can you guess what that is? Please, tell me in the reply. If you don’t know what that is, then, perhaps, I’ll tell you what that is. Thank you.

[@xavierrose8208]

I agree, Come on Over is a fantastic album, it's my summer go to. There's a reason it's the biggest selling album by a woman.

[@flawlessrage2369]

I have this exact cd player with one difference mine has volume buttons instead of a wheel.here in the uk its marketed under the groove brand and cost 20 uk pounds

[@Alex-ob9vp]

Is it bassy?

[@manuelsantos4784]

Been thinking of buying one of these for on the go but couldn't figure out wich one to trust, so thanks for the video man! Btw, any recommendations for tapes on the go? I'm getting some in a couple of months (Gorillaz sound machine) and I'd like to use them for more than starting ny collection. Also, I think my dad has an old, Sony i think, deck somewhere in his storage but getting it out seems to be a chore and a half. Is it worth it?

[@Recordology]

Yes get the sony tape deck out - you will notice great smooth sound.....the entry level tape stuff can be too fast or warbly (wow and flutter)

[@macrodriguez5697]

I have been listening my CDs on everything from cheap to a Blue Ray player with digital output and I couldn't hear any difference at all. Obviously not all CD sounds the same, depends on the production quality, but listening the same CD and songs on different players is the same to me. For some reason the best quality I have ever heard is of an LP. The AC/DC Back in black and Metallica's And justice for all LPs are by far the best recorded sound ever (for me).

[@larockdigg]

Audiophile CD Player rely on a good (digital to analog converter)

[@urbanknish6965]

When I saw you fuss with the lid, I was thinking - "just use your phone!". I have thousands of CDs and I'm a huge fan, don't get me wrong. But you can't beat Spotify or Qobuz no matter how much you try.

[@Recordology]

I use Apple Music daily....a lot.... BUT my feeble ears can hear the quality of the uncompressed CD audio VS. the lossy compression via streaming - especially on dynamic music like classical.

[@urbanknish6965]

@@Recordology That's why I use Qobuz. HiRes, even from my phone. Of course you can dial it down to mp3 quality but it goes up to 192/24-bit. There are no albums that are below CD quality.

[@TechSpec814]

@@urbanknish6965 The thing is that not every music may be on streaming services. Not to mention I prefer to use my phone more as a phone than a music player. In my case I either obtain CDs/buy FLACs to transfer on an iPod.

[@Melvorgazh]

Hi! After 7 months this models still works well? Good sound? I am looking for an affordable player

[@Recordology]

Yes it does

[@Melvorgazh]

@@Recordology Ok. Thanks

[@yingyang1888]

why no AC adapter? sigh! Would prefer an AC adapter as an option...

[@Andersljungberg]

blu-ray Pure audio discs are also available

[@nntalieeee]

where did you purchase this CD player?? And how long does it last??

[@clayerik]

Cheap cd players not perform best with scrached cds.

[@aloralites1214]

video anda sangat bagus dan mempunyai mesej yang luas terima kasih

[@Andersljungberg]

for 1000 $ I probably demand that it should be able to play SACD = super audio CD. SACD offers higher sound quality and also true surround sound. Of course, you need to have a good amplifier and good speakers

[@Andersljungberg]

Sony has ultra HD blu-ray players that can also play SACD and DVD audio plus hires digital audio formats that are higher quality than a regular CD

[@Andersljungberg]

Did you talk about a CD player that is from 2020 or 2010. it can be a big difference

[@moonflower1822]

Do mp3 discs work in this CD player?

[@Andersljungberg]

Is really a Sony CD player as good as a CD player from Marantz as ex

[@kylec.8350]

I'm struggling to find a CD player that is worth paying 100$ plus.

[@bobby666666]

I like Audiiphile equipment. Nothing wrong with items at the lower costs if you don't have the funds. It is ridiculous comparing a CD player attached to a small speaker to a full blown system. I have a full blown CD Recorder by Philips from 1999 and it sounds thin compared to using a £200.00 to £300.00 dedicated CD Player which I also have. There is also no mention of using a DAC with regular size all in one CD Player either as opposed to the Transport and Dac mentioned. There are also too many variables to a high end system to consider before generalising on cheap and high end comparisons.

[@Recordology]

The speaker was not the device I was formulating my overall opinion with - but just a way to demo the product for the video.

[@DarkKnight-yc8nw]

How to connect this to a HIFI system? Pre amp?

[@cibdizzy]

I like your video

[@chrome2infinity938]

There is a difference in dacs i have proven this on my equipment at home. Yeah all cd players are going to sound good. Its in the detail of the sound. The sampling. And lastly the quality of the build. Plain and simple. Buy 2 different cd players and play 2 exact cds at the same time into 2 different inputs in an the same audio receiver and speakers. Switch between the 2 cd.players as they play the same track. Youll hear it. The end result will be an opinion. But listen to the details of the music. Back ground sounds and so in. Not the foreground music. There the difference will shine.

[@astronaut2005drummer]

I see lots of different brands names on that "Tyler" CD player, like Denver, JVC, Lenco, Tyler and OK. I got the same model wich the name brand is "OK"! Lol

[@Andersljungberg]

That speaker does not do the CD player justice. for that speaker is not a hifi speaker

[@Andersljungberg]

Then Maybe someone is wondering why I should buy a portable CD player when I can buy a modern Sony Walkman or similar. and listen to hundreds of songs in higher technical quality than a single song on a CD. which can also be connected to Spotify and with which you can listen to podcasts

[@01chippe]

I disagree on the CD player comparison. A cheap 20.00 CD player will not have a DAC that is comparable to a $1000.00 CD player.

[@Recordology]

BUT the average joe listening on earbuds or modest speakers probably won't notice.....

[@01chippe]

Record-ology True, but the average Joe listening in earbuds isn’t exactly “audiophile”.

[@TheAllMightyGodofCod]

Just came from the store after returning one that is most certainly a clone of this one. It sounded ok but there was a lot of noise between tracks and the build quality was rubbish. To add insult to injury, it costed more than a proper Aiwa player.

[@zeusincoming282]

In the 90s, the seventies beats came Back,,, Disco had just been renamed, "House" or "Lounge" Music.

[@babyyoshi2904]

ive never actually had dinner.

[@yaboidustin2447]

This is just the coby one

[@Recordology]

Same supplier...

[@Nomad-Rogers]

portable cd players only have a 1-bit D/A or DAC to get the most out of a Compact Disc you need a 18-bit DAC, so you can over sample the Disc.

[@michaelgalanos981]

That doesn’t matter most cds are recording in 16 bit 44kh as long as the dac can read the information it will sound good and the difference between an 18 bit dac and 1 bit is negligible when it comes to listening to a cd the recording is what matters garbage in garbage out

[@d.a.elliottjr.367]

I never heard of that brand Tyler.

[@endezeichengrimm]

You have now, so you can't say "never".

[@FSCforal]

shania twain my favourite !

[@Asriazh]

If you judge sound by using a soda can sized speaker, then you kinda disqualify yourself already. If you listen to CDs, using a "proper" stereo system (amplifier, decently sized, quality speakers) then you do hear a difference between the bottom of the barrel cd-players and good ones and between good ones and those where you would have paid premium dollars when they were new. Like You said, DACs make a big difference, but its also the quality of the components, the filters applied to the sound (every at least decent cd-player has some sound shaping) and the opamps. How much of the data on a CD really gets to your ears and how is it "colored" by the components used; all that makes or breaks the sound. But in the age of digital music, i have a feeling the perception of whats acceptable and ok sounding lowered. I often hear people say "this sounds really good!" and i think "no, this sounds like total crap. You just dont realize it cause you have nothing really good to compare it to >_>" But yeah, cd-players rarely totally crap out :D

[@Recordology]

So sometimes I create these videos aimed at the beginner who has no idea what sound shaping is...otherwise the video will be hours long. But yes, your points are correct. The speaker was not the device I was formulating my overall opinion with - but just a way to demo the product for the video.

[@JohnSmith-zl8rz]

Not Audiophile of course.

[@briannewell6064]

Comp-er-able.

[@avinashbhoir4433]

In today's dvds world nobody goes for a CD player. Now, also only USB prefered.