Modelling Revit Stair Finishes and Nosings

Stair modelling is hard enough as it is in Revit - let alone managing separate applied finishes and nosing strips! This tutorial aims to show an efficient method by which to achieve both elements of a detailed stair design.
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[@watcharaponghomnan8010]

I am a disabled person. With one right arm That works .I like the Revit program .Thank you for this knowledge.

[@AussieBIMGuru]

You're welcome! Designing for people with disabilities is very important in my country (Australia). This is especially relevant for stairs - a lot of considerations to make. One great feature in the stair tool in Revit is the ability to set maximum riser heights and minimum run widths so we can detect when a stair in our design is non-compliant for disabled access!

[@ricardogallegosrdz4280]

Great Video!

[@AussieBIMGuru]

Thanks!

[@AlbrechtJ]

Thanks for in-depth tutorial. Your videos are high quality contents. Subscribe already.

[@AussieBIMGuru]

Thanks, and you're welcome!

[@TheBIMCoordinator]

This is awesome and really useful!

[@AussieBIMGuru]

Thanks - glad it helped!

[@mubashirmamupt7124]

Thanks Jazakumullah khirn

[@AussieBIMGuru]

You're welcome!

[@moegyi2077]

Nice tutorials. Thank you!!

[@AussieBIMGuru]

Thanks, glad you liked the tutorial 😀

[@moegyi2077]

@@AussieBIMGuru oh anyway, i'd like to ask how to make the schedule of earth excavation and backfilling (like excavating, build structural foundation and backfilling). I don't see that feature in Revit. Any advices for that? : (

[@AussieBIMGuru]

@@moegyi2077 it is quite difficult, but possible to achieve an excavated backfill in revit. If you use phases you can stage topography, then use the graded region tool to model the retain/cut sections separately. There's a quick demo video of a workflow here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4nIanZ-fKaFrNU Hope that helps get the research started!

[@AussieBIMGuru]

@@moegyi2077 area/volume can also be scheduled in later versions, see here for reference from autodesk: www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=%23&ved=2ahUKEwiz8LmSmqrjAhUQWysKHZlhDRkQwqsBMAN6BAgDEAo&usg=AOvVaw0VTJzWxrN8ZFOD4xbU2nov

[@moegyi2077]

@@AussieBIMGuru you're truly a life savior, thanks!! Will research and try it out tomorrow!!

[@felipemeruane6637]

Hi ABG! in your package the is a very handy node to place stair paths, i was wondering if there is a way to place tread numbers as well. Thenks!

[@AussieBIMGuru]

I havent actually looked into it myself, but it looks to be possible using this method: www.revitapidocs.com/2018/6d9a83ed-5aa9-c97f-3932-b74ecd30fa8f.htm

[@felipemeruane6637]

@@AussieBIMGuru Thak you ABG. Python is out of reach for me... I was trying to do something with AI to modify your script but since i dont really understand what i´m doing, i got nowere... if you get interested and find some time to look at this, please let me know. Thank you again!

[@AussieBIMGuru]

@felipemeruane6637 unfortunately ive put most channel work on hold due to life admin and my career but maybe try dynamo forums.

[@herbertpinne5466]

Great! Very informing.... Pls can u do an advanced tutorial tailored towards Autodesk certified professional exams. It will be very helpful

[@AussieBIMGuru]

Hi Herbert, the exams are actually fairly easy as long as you follow the questions carefully and take your time. They have changed a bit since I last took them I think though. I have a video about my experience here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/op3HaWNpmsSmqNU

[@TheCuriousOrbs]

I came here to find out how to apply different materials to custom stair nosings but instead discovered that tread and nosing functionality isn't nearly as customisable as I would've hoped. Nevertheless, this works and for now and seems to be enough to get the job done until a more elegant solution becomes OOTB functionality in the future (or at least one would hope).

[@AussieBIMGuru]

This was the same shortcoming that lead me to develop this workaround. I share your wish that we had tread/nosing material control (pattern setout, nosing separation and inset). I'm glad my workflow gave you an option, albeit not the one we both hope for in future!

[@anthonybowden1646]

Hi Gavin. Good tip. What do you do when the nosing elements cut through and go above your stair cut marks?

[@AussieBIMGuru]

I shake my first at Autodesk for not providing us with a more robust solution unfortunately. It's graphically got some issues in this case, not quite sure how these would be best resolved.

[@Rob_Bo]

Gavin, would love to see in more detail how you set up the array family in this video. Im attempting a similar exercise with the stair nosings right now but i'll de damned if i can work out the array scenario.

[@AussieBIMGuru]

Just made a tutorial for this element that will be out early-mid May.

[@Rob_Bo]

@@AussieBIMGuru amazing. Will keep an eye out for it.

[@Rob_Bo]

Had another go. Managed to get it working with a bit of trial and error. Didnt work with the count correction parameter my end, but does the job just fine without it.

[@AussieBIMGuru]

@@Rob_Bo nice one, the tutorial will come out eventually in either case so can be a good way to compare our methods!

[@Kuroshiki_55]

I use Revit LT. I cant find the filter button so I think this LT doesn't have this function. Should i just hide the concrete stair then?

[@AussieBIMGuru]

Yes unfortunately no filters in revit LT.

[@bimdan7825]

Hi Thank you for sharing this amazing tutorial. Though I am a bit confused in making that diagonal array, you have used. Could you kindly please guide me how to do that?

[@AussieBIMGuru]

In this case I nest the tread cover as a family, then I array it in section in 2 directions. I use two reference planes to dictate the location of the second tread, then formulae to set the spacing based on the overall depth/height the user specifies.

[@a9speedbump379]

@@AussieBIMGuru can you pls pls pls do a tutorial about the nesting family and how you did the array. plssss

[@AussieBIMGuru]

@@a9speedbump379 i have, enjoy :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/oaSzoIOQqstsibM

[@a9speedbump379]

@@AussieBIMGuru thanks a lot mate. I didn't face this problem before with stairs i always used the monolithic material. But this time for my cdp um using a special concrete layer on top as a floor finish. Dun wanna see it broken at the staircase or in the stair section. Yur video was the only one i found that have a good solution for that. Thanks a lot. My final architecture degree cdp project is on the 16th and um still doin the detailing 🙃

[@AussieBIMGuru]

@@a9speedbump379 best of luck!

[@vince4739]

Hi! Great tutorial. I tried doing this method with U shaped stairs but the threads and risers kind of mess things up. So what I did was made 3 different "finish stairs" and it was all fine until I tagged the stairs with the thread number tag. Any suggestions? Thanks.

[@vince4739]

Nvm I figured it out. I just tagged the "finish stairs" and changed the start number of each stair so that the numbering is continuous.

[@AussieBIMGuru]

@Vince Yeah that's probably the only way around these sort of scenarios. The finish stair is a bit of a 'Revit hack' so needs a few workarounds to fully enable it. Great job!

[@vince4739]

@@AussieBIMGuru FWIW this is how I did it. So I did exactly everthing in the video except my stairs were U shaped, so I had problems with the threads and risers cause when I offset them, they overlap with the "structural stair". I figured I should just make 3 separate "finish stairs", 1 for each stair and 1 for the midlanding, and it worked but I had problems tagging the threads. Then I also figured why not just tag each separate stairs and just change the starting numbers, and it worked! Just do some tweaking and apply some filters and your good!

[@bryangunawan7626]

i need those nosing family

[@AussieBIMGuru]

It's in my revit repo over on github.

[@aaquib18]

how to put skirting along steps?..

[@AussieBIMGuru]

Unfortunately there isn't a good inbuilt tool that Revit offers. Options would include; - A custom stair stringer - A parametric array in 2 directions, similar to how I managed the nosings - Use Dynamo, bake in as a direct shape/freeform

[@user-pz8dz1so4t]

how about curve stair

[@AussieBIMGuru]

Radial array. A bit harder but possible.