Australia’s energy debate ‘full of deception’

[@hemlock527]

Bowen is sickening. This is abusive to a criminal level.

[@Jim-i4j]

Absolutely excellent interview Ross with someone that actually knows what they talking bout. 👍👍👍

[@JIMDEZWAV]

Labor want's social control not practical solution's ...😈😈👿👿

[@rogermckinnon5738]

Why do you think Pinocchio wants his misinformation law, digital id, digital cash ect.

[@JIMDEZWAV]

@@rogermckinnon5738 Personal carbon footprint tracker 😈😈👿👿😈😈

[@stenkarasin2091]

Labor ia ly!ng about energy.

[@lukeh321]

This government will be the first government to leave Australians worse off. And it's no accident

[@daemon1143]

Perhaps not the first, the Keating government pulled a few swifties that we still suffer from (no longer is there civil service accountability), and the Gillard Rudd debacle did some damage, then there's the Turnbull deception. Still, I agree that the current evil sods are pretty damned bad.

[@robertnicholson1409]

And Australia needs coal........the war on coal is insane.

[@Laborout]

Beautiful coal, cheap and reliable.

[@realfamilyman]

I'm no fan of nuclear, but it wouldn't have mattered how long they took to build, if Labor idiots hadn't begun closing coal power stations until after the others were built. The whole "climate change" is nonsense anyway, but even if their fairy story for adults were true, the little Australia contributes to their carefully fabricated fake "problem" - wouldn't make a difference either way - but especially for such a limited time.

[@aaronfarley14]

Exactly,This country was built on cheap reliable coal fired energy and the more we’ve gone down the wind 🌬️ and solar path our energy has become less reliable and the increases in energy costs are making Australian 🇦🇺 businesses less competitive and our beautiful landscape is being destroyed!!!!

[@peterbrown4943]

@@aaronfarley14 coal is abundant in Australia. Cheap as chips and very clean these days.

[@BrianBellia]

Yes, exactly. Except for gas, we need none of the things Ross suggested. But just as vital gas, we need coal!

[@Wannon55]

The big problem is our energy is politicised.Nobody can trust any politician in any party for real energy solutions.

[@troywallace322]

One thing you can guarantee is they'll do what's best for them. Not the country.

[@Laborout]

I’d bet on lib/nat nuclear over labour/ greens/teals fans and mirrors anyday.

[@Want0nS0up]

They are not the same. The left-wing always use the equivalence furphy when they have lost the argument.

[@johngeier8692]

Arrhenius who described the greenhouse effect in the late nineteenth century opined that carbon dioxide emissions from human activity would have the beneficial effects of increased agricultural yields and postponement of the next glacial maximum. You can add reduced winter heating requirements and fewer deaths from hypothermia. Net Zero is the result of ridiculous popular delusions triumphing over critical thinking and common sense due to weak and corrupt politicians. It is prohibitively costly, impractical and totally unnecessary. It is economically destructive delusional insanity. It impoverishes the Western World and enriches China and developing countries. We need to stop wasting our money and resources on this nonsense and simply use the most economical energy resources available.

[@VK6AB-]

Driven by ill informed ideologues. Nuclear should be part of the mix, its a genuine investment in Australian industry, STEM based enterprises, Australian abundant natural resources and LTO nuclear is the cheapest source of energy. If its green enough for the greenest countries in Europe e.g. Sweden and Finland its green enough for Australia. Add to this these facts, we already have a reactor at Lucas Heights in Sydney, we are building facilities for nuclear submarines in Perth and we are one of the worlds largest producers of uranium.

[@Mr_Bio_Hazard]

Who is going to pay for it.

[@Martinoconnor-du6lc]

@@Mr_Bio_Hazard the same people paying for windmills and solar panels.

[@whiskeygamer9402]

Blackout Bowens Fairytale renewables 🤣🌈🏳️‍🌈🦄💅🏼

[@CanabisWhiskeyAnanas]

CALL HIM SIR WHIP!

[@Laborout]

⁠like your handle. Fairytales (lies) are over. Get rid of the ban and watch the stampede to invest in Australia.

[@StepWright]

I’ll bet that Bowen was hanging around Newtown years ago with Albo knees the Newtown DJ

[@mk1479]

Uncle billy just bought nuclear power stations, so did amazon... Gee, our gutless wonders need an update..

[@adjbutler]

think about this: lower cost of energy means more factories which leads to more jobs

[@iainw5081]

Means less closed down factories.

[@Diponty]

My power bills are going way down if down is up!

[@Poorlineforeva]

Nuclear is not cheaper. Stop lying.

[@Laborout]

Pretty simple unless you’re simple or corrupt.

[@pwillis1589.]

Liebor are economic troglodytes.

[@tbonesfishies1797]

If Australia had nuclear energy Albo's and Bowen's green energy stock investments would plummet.

[@mickzammit6794]

Low cost ?? Take a look at the cost to nature of wind towers. The great dividing range in Queensland is being raped. And it won't recover.

[@iainw5081]

Factor in all the cost of/and energy used (mainly oil) to move the tons of rock and earth to extract and process the minerals required. Lithium evaporation ponds are highly toxic and polluting.

[@Laborout]

All with the Greens/Teals cheering it on. Hypocrites.

[@jefferystein5452]

Build large get it done

[@CanabisWhiskeyAnanas]

I MIGHT BE INTERESTED THEN!

[@Stretch-xd3ed]

This sounds like the voice campaign.

[@stevimoss]

Net zero corruption

[@Scotty123-o3u]

What the hell are you on about?

[@johngeier8692]

Net Zero is economically destructive delusional insanity. It is policy based upon popular delusions.

[@stevimoss]

@@Scotty123-o3uugh..

[@davidhilder6826]

This is all to complicated for Bowen & Albo. Cheaper, reliable, stays on when the wind does not blow or the sun does not shine, far too complicate

[@vernonwhite4660]

Tink of the kickbacks for wind turbines & Solar from China😊

[@theodociocozanitis5437]

If a public company wanted to build a nuclear power plant and can supply comparatively priced electricity the government has no need to stick its nose in this

[@Poorlineforeva]

Except for the ban.

[@Laborout]

Wait until their mates big tech want nuclear , the ban will quickly cease to exist.

[@pwillis1589]

Which public company?

[@theodociocozanitis5437]

@@pwillis1589 I read an article that there is a Korean and Japanese company were willing to build nuclear power plants and run them for 60 yrs the hand them over for free to the government to run till end of life

[@pwillis1589]

@@theodociocozanitis5437 Any construction company will build you a PWR and tell you it will cost this. The problem is nowhere in the West has this been done. French, UK, and US construction costs have all blown out, sometimes well over 100%. So what you are suggesting is a LNP conservative government committed to neo-liberal economic policy is going to turn to socialism to build and own part of the country’s power infrastructure, because private investment won’t have anything to do with nuclear power in Australia. What could possibly go wrong?

[@50yobeast]

low cost solar and wind = lies......

[@lloydsingline340]

Labor lies.

[@rogermckinnon5738]

​@@lloydsingline340surprise

[@Laborout]

WEF lies. The west fell for it hook line and sinker.

[@Sam-sj4pd]

There has to be more to it.. Just two little wiesel blokes can not be blocking the future of this country. In other countries that would be classed as treason.

[@Peekaboo-Kitty]

Exporting Gas and then importing it again? Can this Country get any Dumber?

[@daniellebcooper7160]

Another possible reason for the banks to be backing Nuclear, is that a certain country only makes renewable components and not nuclear: so they want to invest in a more stable project.

[@johnwoodrow8769]

BUT!!! Chris told me Australia can't afford or even need nuclear. We'll power it all from sunshine and when the wind is blowing, how cool is that! Surely someone as smart as Mr. Bowen wouldn't lie to me, would he?

[@lloydsingline340]

Er, yes !!

[@rosstowers1122]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Martin_Priesthood]

Ha ha 🤣😂

[@johngeier8692]

If Mr Bowen really believes what he says, then he belongs in a psychiatric hospital.

[@Martin_Priesthood]

@@johngeier8692 his pockets are already lined

[@richardtravers8772]

Who would believe the CSIRO, Blackout Bowen or Each Way Albo.

[@MrHmauch]

A government with a “can’t do” attitude needs to be replaced. How about if it’s too expensive if we start collecting taxes on gas from foreign companies instead of giving it away !

[@LouSimpson-vn5wn]

Great show.

[@jackdhillic7400]

In what way does Australia embrace free markets? Govt sets wages, punishes success with high taxes, picks winners, etc.

[@MariGolds2]

Finally a realistic comment, thank you

[@Peekaboo-Kitty]

The World is laughing at us. Australia will be left behind big time. 😞

[@tomjones5338]

Start buying wood heating stoves for cooking and heating plenty of trees to cut down no need for power that doesn't work

[@Barney_Rubble247]

Plenty of wood at mine. 👍

[@iainw5081]

Go long candles and generators and hope you don't live in a block of apartments (on the tenth floor no power means twenty flights of stairs up and down).

[@dfor50]

I sometimes think Labor regrets having been anti-nuclear from the start and would like to re-visit it but cannot do so because of the limb Bowen has taken them out on and the subsequent loss of face it would entail.

[@ivanf6938]

My tip. Watch the nuclear "review" they are about to have. It will make a perfect smokescreen for Labor's inevitable flip/flop on nuclear. If we are to be seen seriously by our AUKUS partners this madness has to stop. Either that or we pull out of AUKUS. It's more than loss of face. It is Greens preferences and Union super investments.

[@ironmaidens6663]

We're going to need all this power and intermittent renewables can't produce enough of it. Opposition to nuclear will be short lived.

[@fisho2620]

if we sell nuclear fuel we should use it ourselves

[@AndrewWilliams-kw6bc]

AMEN !

[@paul-57]

Australia has been a long way behind the rest of the world as far as technology goes for thousands of years, nothing new here.

[@lloydsingline340]

Come on !!What about the stump jump plough and Hills Hoist.Australia had the first heart transplant ( Dr Christian Barnard ).

[@brent2490]

But nowhere else is using nuclear we have been told.

[@lloydsingline340]

You know that that is wrong.

[@gregwooldridge8864]

We are in this mess from all political sides simply political donations. Or from none political ppl . BRIBES.

[@GaryHuntington-m3p]

This arrogant , idiotic Government, sending us third world living

[@johngeier8692]

Australia needs to withdraw from the Paris Accord and to simply use the most economical energy resources available.

[@vernonwhite4660]

CSIRO IS SIMILAR TO ABC NEEDS DEFUNDING😮

[@ricky6864]

Politicians like bowen, albo etc need to be held personally accountable for their lies, misinformation and waste of taxpayers money

[@tonyperkins7485]

This is what we need honest debate. Good onya

[@MariGolds2]

😂

[@robertwoollard2167]

The Australian people should be able to vote on nuclear power.and go TRUMP 2024...

[@garycollier385]

If Trump doesn’t win there will be anti government militias will form in every country because the damage Harris would do to the world there’s no coming back from

[@johngeier8692]

Mr Trump does not collude with the Climate Change Delusion nor the Energy Transition Delusion. He will withdraw the US from the ridiculous Paris Accord if reelected.

[@CanabisWhiskeyAnanas]

WE NEED MORE REUSABLE BLACK GENERATORS.

[@troywallace322]

Isa good piccaninny boss.

[@troywallace322]

Isa peddle harder boss.

[@lovechineseforever9434]

SOME PEOPLE ARE SO SLOW

[@Thor88888]

Burying our heads in the sand does not make the energy crisis go away

[@50yobeast]

there is no such thing as zero emissions energy......... lies...

[@MariGolds2]

💯

[@johnd87]

I wouldn't put Bowen in charge of cleaning the toilet let alone cleaning the atmosphere. He's a nutter.

[@kevinduffy6712]

No country is using modular reactors . We need proper nuclear power stations . Now

[@CanabisWhiskeyAnanas]

DO YOU LIKE TREES AND TRAINS?

[@kevinduffy6712]

@@CanabisWhiskeyAnanas what's that got to do with power stations.

[@rogermckinnon5738]

Actually, China has two, Russia has multiple ship based ones that it uses to power some of its land bases. Even Rolls Royce builds SMR's. Every nuclear submarine uses a form of SMR'S 😂

[@kevinduffy6712]

@@rogermckinnon5738 I am talking about Western countries. What good is a modular reactor in a submarine other than to run the sub ? The Nimitz class and bigger air craft carriers have 4 that are containerised . Nine of which are any good in out back in Oz. Are they ?

[@rogermckinnon5738]

@kevinduffy6712 lol, you said Quote "No country", try again, junior.

[@CanabisWhiskeyAnanas]

I LIKE TREES 🌳.

[@timquartly7211]

Heavy machinery has been destroying alot of them to build wind turbines in suitable locations

[@CanabisWhiskeyAnanas]

@@timquartly7211 AND WATER!

[@timquartly7211]

@@CanabisWhiskeyAnanas that's true they don't do wonders for off shore ecosystems either

[@thataussieguy2328]

Someone should use a move from the Greens playbook of 1980 and say "Why use a tried and tested energy generation method when we could hold off and bank on an emerging energy generation method that will only mature in 30-40 years." AKA, Nuclear Fusion We could have had nuclear energy 20-30 years ago if the greens weren't all "Bu-but muh renewable energy."

[@johngeier8692]

The problem was the Nuclear Power is Unsafe Delusion. The false and delusional belief that nuclear power plants are unsafe. The ALP is still afflicted with this ridiculous popular delusion.

[@davidswain5916]

Maybe coal is our best option

[@reneevandeventer4842]

😲if submarines can run nuclear anything can ...

[@prescientselector3784]

Like everything else, when government gets involved, things become more expensive, driven by ideology, and they just don’t work.

[@conchitadesousa365]

I've seen mine companies advertisements showing their big monster trucks powered by electricity. I was wondering about the recharging of these devices, using only solar & wind sources......

[@Aaronwhatnow]

Why only solar and wind?

[@Diponty]

@@Aaronwhatnow Because they are closing down coal and gas fired power plants and nuclear is too taboo to consider.

[@lloydsingline340]

​@Aaronwhatn 9:39 wind is not economic.ow

[@Aaronwhatnow]

​@@Dipontyso why only wind and solar?

[@blwairconditioning4350]

What people dont understand is for example 1 data centre in Fyshwick with 30 chillers each one uses more than 30 maximum households power draw just to start now add all the data centres around Australia

[@allenpilon376]

Of course poor handling of the truth mmm must be something new hey

[@CanabisWhiskeyAnanas]

I GOT REPLACERS FOR THE FUEL GENERATORS!

[@troywallace322]

🐒🤣

[@daleeling8993]

Thorium salt reactors. That's where our money should go

[@StepWright]

We don’t want or need data centres !!!

[@JohnCuzens]

The CSIRO will always table reports the Government want them to table, after all they are a Government department.

[@judithjames4522]

I just can't cope going without my own air conditioning while my tax goes to fund air conditioning in Parliament House.☹

[@tonyquinn8405]

Data centres are unbelievably power hungry and they are only in their infancy in Australia.

[@bretloyd8097]

😂

[@catdog726]

Blackout Bowen is stupid

[@JIMDEZWAV]

Microsoft , Google , ORACLE , ship's , submarines , military base's , the Moon , basically everyone everywhere all the time will soon have nuclear power station's , that is accept Australia = does not pass the pub test as poll's are now showing 🍻🍻

[@GeoffMiell]

Fantasist! The gap between the hype about SMRs and industrial reality continues to grow. The nuclear industry and multiple governments are doubling down on their financial and political investments into SMRs. So far, the harsh reality does not reflect those efforts: with no design certifications for civil 𝗽𝗼𝘄𝗲𝗿 reactors, no constructions in the west, SMR 𝗽𝗼𝘄𝗲𝗿 projects continue to be delayed or canceled. The earliest we may see any of these civil commercial 𝗽𝗼𝘄𝗲𝗿 SMRs operational is in the 2030s at best. The only real world recently operational civil small reactor examples are China’s SHIDAO BAY-1 twin demonstration reactors & Russia’s AKADEMIK LOMONOSOV-1 & -2, which I'd suggest thoroughly undermine claims that SMRs could be cheaper and faster to deploy.

[@ivanf6938]

@@GeoffMiell Even if it is in the 2030's that's fine. Let's call it 2040. By then under Bowens plan we will still be using gas for firming for another 10 years minimum. The first of the pumped hydro projects will be nearing completion and still only provide 24 hours of back up power. They might have by then perfected the hydrogen technology Bowen is relying on but by any realistic commercial assessment it just is not viable. We could have full scale reactors up and running in that time even by worst case Bowen and CSIRO timeframes and not need the gas firming or hydrogen and have 24/7/365 reliable power. The development of the SMR isn't paramount to the plan.

[@GeoffMiell]

@@ivanf6938 - "Let's call it 2040. By then under Bowens plan we will still be using gas for firming for another 10 years minimum." Gas from where? Australia's east coast gas reserves are inadequate to last decades at the current consumption rate. A quick look at the AEMO’s 𝘎𝘢𝘴 𝘚𝘵𝘢𝘵𝘦𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘰𝘧 𝘖𝘱𝘱𝘰𝘳𝘵𝘶𝘯𝘪𝘵𝘪𝘦𝘴 - 𝘔𝘢𝘳𝘤𝘩 2024: 𝘍𝘰𝘳 𝘈𝘶𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘢𝘭𝘪𝘢’𝘴 𝘌𝘢𝘴𝘵 𝘊𝘰𝘢𝘴𝘵 𝘎𝘢𝘴 𝘔𝘢𝘳𝘬𝘦𝘵 document shows in Figure 26 (on page 47): 𝗞𝗲𝘆 𝗱𝗮𝘁𝗮: • 2023 actual consumption: _ _ _ 1,885 PJ • 2P developed reserves: _ _ _ _ 17,640 PJ _ _ 𝗥/𝗣 = 𝟵.𝟰 𝘆𝗲𝗮𝗿𝘀; plus • 2P undeveloped reserves: _ _ _16,279 PJ _ _ 𝗥/𝗣 = 𝟴.𝟲 𝘆𝗲𝗮𝗿𝘀 • 2C resources: _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 41,938 PJ ...as at 31 Dec 2023. 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝟮𝗣 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗲𝗿𝘃𝗲𝘀 𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗶𝗺𝗮𝘁𝗲 reflects statistically that there should be 𝗮𝘁 𝗹𝗲𝗮𝘀𝘁 𝗮 𝟱𝟬% 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗯𝗮𝗯𝗶𝗹𝗶𝘁𝘆 that the quantities actually recovered will equal or exceed the sum of estimated proved plus probable reserves. 𝗚𝗮𝘀 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗼𝘂𝗿𝗰𝗲𝘀 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗱𝗲𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗲𝗱 𝗮𝘀 𝗹𝗲𝘀𝘀 𝗰𝗲𝗿𝘁𝗮𝗶𝗻, & potentially less commercially viable, sources of gas. When estimating these uncertain resources, the best estimate of contingent resources (2C) is used. Figure 27 shows a large majority of the 2P reserves and 2C resources are concentrated in the north. Northern LNG producers control around 70% of the 2P developed and undeveloped reserves in the ECGM. US petroleum geologist Art Berman said earlier this year: "𝘐’𝘮 𝘲𝘶𝘪𝘵𝘦 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘧𝘪𝘥𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘣𝘦𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘥𝘦𝘤𝘢𝘥𝘦 𝘪𝘴 𝘰𝘷𝘦𝘳 𝘸𝘦’𝘳𝘦 𝘨𝘰𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘰 𝘴𝘦𝘦 𝘴𝘰𝘮𝘦 𝘴𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘰𝘶𝘴 𝘴𝘶𝘱𝘱𝘭𝘺 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘤𝘦𝘳𝘯𝘴 𝘣𝘺 𝘮𝘢𝘳𝘬𝘦𝘵𝘴 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘣𝘰𝘵𝘩 𝘰𝘪𝘭 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘯𝘢𝘵𝘶𝘳𝘢𝘭 𝘨𝘢𝘴, 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘪𝘵 𝘸𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘴𝘶𝘳𝘱𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘦 𝘮𝘦 𝘪𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘩𝘢𝘱𝘱𝘦𝘯𝘦𝘥 𝘪𝘯 𝘢 𝘺𝘦𝘢𝘳 𝘰𝘳 𝘵𝘸𝘰, 𝘢𝘩, 𝘢𝘴 𝘰𝘱𝘱𝘰𝘴𝘦𝘥 𝘵𝘰, 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘬𝘯𝘰𝘸, 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘧𝘪𝘷𝘦 𝘰𝘳 𝘴𝘪𝘹 𝘺𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘸𝘦 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘳𝘦𝘮𝘢𝘪𝘯𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘥𝘦𝘤𝘢𝘥𝘦." kzbin.info/www/bejne/qKebZn-KgrRrirM Global gas supplies are only going to get scarcer and increasingly more expensive. Meanwhile, leading Australian climate scientist Dr Joëlle Gergis takes a timely look at Australia's perilous future in a warming world, recorded at an event at Gleebooks in Sydney on Tuesday, 4 Jun 2024. "𝘔𝘰𝘴𝘵 𝘈𝘶𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘢𝘭𝘪𝘢𝘯𝘴 𝘢𝘳𝘦𝘯'𝘵 𝘢𝘸𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘩𝘰𝘸 𝘣𝘢𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘴 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘩𝘰𝘸 𝘮𝘶𝘤𝘩 𝘸𝘰𝘳𝘴𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘸𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘨𝘦𝘵." - Dr Joëlle Gergis Hear the ABC RN podcast titled 𝗛𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘄𝗮𝘆 𝘁𝗼 𝗛𝗲𝗹𝗹 - 𝗝𝗼𝗲𝗹𝗹𝗲 𝗚𝗲𝗿𝗴𝗶𝘀 𝗼𝗻 𝗰𝗹𝗶𝗺𝗮𝘁𝗲 𝗰𝗵𝗮𝗻𝗴𝗲 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗔𝘂𝘀𝘁𝗿𝗮𝗹𝗶𝗮’𝘀 𝗳𝘂𝘁𝘂𝗿𝗲, published 25 Jun 2024, duration 52 minutes. Nuclear is too slow, too expensive, relies on finite fuels inadequate to sustain a so-called "nuclear renaissance" in the longer-term, and leaves a toxic waste legacy that will long outlast any energy benefits gained. @ivanf6938 - "We could have full scale reactors up and running in that time..." Most, if not all coal-fired generators will likely close by 2038, per the latest AEMO's 𝘐𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘨𝘳𝘢𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘚𝘺𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘮 𝘗𝘭𝘢𝘯 (𝘐𝘚𝘗). What keeps the 'lights on' while Australia waits 20+ years for the first (let alone subsequent) prospective civil nuclear reactors to become operational? That's the urgent conversation Australia needs to have.

[@CraigHarvey]

The Coalition's 7 sites will only give us 7-10% of the power we need by the time they are completed.

[@GeoffMiell]

And that would be 20+ years before the first electrons flow from any prospective nuclear plants in Australia. What would keep the 'lights on' while Australia waits?

[@CanabisWhiskeyAnanas]

DO YOU LIKE TRAINS?​@@GeoffMiell

[@lloydsingline340]

​@@GeoffMiellCoal power just like now !!

[@troywallace322]

What does it matter. You won't be around by then anyway

[@dontbeasheeple5883]

Got any proof of this ridiculous claim?

[@JustinSyd]

Solar panel arrays/farms can be built as roofs 12 ft high, that will also provide shade for cattle underneath or for crops that require shade and not much sun, so it can work in some places. The roofs and water tanks can collect water as well for the cattle and or crops. What about using electrolysis to split water into hydrogen and oxygen gases. That should be talked about also. Those 2 gases hydrogen and oxygen when burnt TOGETHER in an engine or gas fired turbine at a power station can create plenty of power and electricity. There is no pollution from it either. People say it takes more electricity than what you get from it, but I don't think that is true at all. It needs to be checked out and tested. Water can be split using far less electricity by using a pulsed square wave form, from dc power & that is easy to do using a basic electronic power supply. You don't store these gases in tanks as that is dangerous but you simply produce the gases and then use them straight away in an engine for a car or truck or ship or plane or gas fired turbine at a gas fired power station. That should be tested and used now. Do it.! People say just go nuclear with these new smaller modular reactors, but are they really safe? Some people say some solar flares can make some reactors start up themselves and get out of control. Has that been investigated for safety? Nuclear is just rushing to any simple answer that gets promoted. What are the radiation levels and nuclear pollution in the oceans and the atmosphere now in 2024 worldwide, after the fukishima melt down?? Do we want rising cancer rates from nuclear radiation just to power our obsession with data servers and dodgy dangerous AI that many people are warning about getting out of control one day??

[@darrenashley126]

They work for US not themselves, they need to ask what do the people want and do the job our taxes pay them for.

[@frankcoates4609]

Boofhead is a boofhead. Big bold policy, no detail, no costing, no explanation. All sizzle, no sausage.

[@ErnestBailey-sl9sl]

No matter what the govt project. Will always be cost blow outs. Why the Labour Party backed by unions. Big reason for cost blow outs

[@greggoldie2351]

Chris B💩wen is full of it.

[@mustlovedogs6308]

The 20 year timeframe is *total BS*

[@johnwoodrow8769]

What aspect of electricity generation, is determined by "the market"? The answer is none. All forms are influenced and motivated by government policies and subsidies, especially renewables. So the idea of leaving nuclear to 'the market' to decide is another deception in this debate.

[@Scotty123-o3u]

Andrew Bolt, biggest climate liar of our age.

[@johngeier8692]

Humans are susceptible to mass psychological phenomena such as popular delusions. It is a popular delusion that man’s effects on the Earth’s climate are significant and dangerous. Since the current mean annual surface temperature of Earth is suboptimal they are actually small and beneficial. Additionally the direct stimulation of plant growth by elevated atmospheric carbon dioxide concentrations significantly increases agricultural yields.

[@Berserker978]

Renewables have been on the go for 23 years and to date Renewables account for 39.4 per cent of Australia's total electricity supply. Bahahahaha 😆 So 46 years and we might make it to 80%. Oh!! No Sorry Everything will need Renewing by then. Bahahahaha 😆

[@troywallace322]

Bruce Pascoe invented renewable energy back in the Dreamin times.

[@Aaronwhatnow]

Lack of investment and governments fighting against it. Renewables are the way forward

[@BringBackThe1950s-y3n]

@@Aaronwhatnow How's that working out in Germany? 🤣🤣🤣

[@PeterGlen-s9z]

who does not lie

[@tast4527]

And sun and wind will power data centres with batteries for 6 minutes... and not let the market dictate. This is absolutely nuts. Nuclear energy all the way.

[@Wombat-y7t]

if an OMCG held the nation to ransom like Chris Bowen, task force raptor would go into overdrive

[@mk1479]

Uncle billy just bought nuclear power stations, so did amazon... Gee, our gutless wonders need an update..

[@KjamLXX8]

The only Nuclear our politicians are interested in is submarines. Not that $360B for 3 subs is expensive is it?

[@Albolf]

We have a new announcement. It has been decided that our new energy policy going forward will be exercise bicycles fitted with generators that are connected to the grid. We will need at least a hundred million more immigrants to fill the positions of human generators.

[@CanabisWhiskeyAnanas]

I GOT REPLACER I NEED TO WHIP FOR MY FUEL GENERATORS.

[@troywallace322]

Theyz is good for electricity boss

[@dianewarner7505]

Power for AI but not for the people oh that’s right they don’t want to need the people

[@carbonite1999]

if sky would drag AUSTRALIAS leading electrical engineers on and interview an expert on power ,not politicians without a trade or even a trade in electricity .. would you ask a hair dresser to fix your car? no so why ask a politician about this ?

[@footbru]

Excellent point. I'm not sure you'd get the answer you want. But I think Skynews should stop pushing this argument - they are obviously biased, and wading into politics instead of being a news organisation.

[@chrish4681]

Ted O’Brien, 2 thumbs up for standing in front of the Aus flag, wether by accident or not you don’t seem as someone who panders to the minority

[@paulwary]

Nuclear IS very expensive up front. But so are renewables. It’s just that the scale of transmission, storage and maintenance required for the vast, distributed, all-renewable system have been hidden, fudged, or assumed to be provided by the taxpayer’s own private expenditure.

[@Aaronwhatnow]

Renewables are very cheap to build. Nuclear would cost billions just to build the infrastructure it would take to start building the plants. And making the fuel for the plants and the buildings needed to store the fuel and the buildings need to store the spend fuels for centuries thereafter. And the decades it would take to build a working power plant. Nah Nuclear isn't cheaper.

[@bettymarshall2702]

@@Aaronwhatnow Stop talking rubbish

[@paulwary]

It seems Ive been barred by youtube from replying to a response to my own comment.

[@Kawasaki1-m4l]

I refuse nuclear power stations & green power. I support Black Coal fired Powerstations. Theyve done us no harm, cheapest baseload power in a cost of living nightmare of Labors doing. Our technology done in house ourselves without outside help.

[@chrisdickinson7949]

Nuclear is the way to go, Clean, Green & Super Safe with Modern reactors Relatively cheap to Make, Maintain & Supply for all Aussies over their long lifetime A NO BRAINER for our future. But why bother when they can just keep on Doubling & Tripling our power prices to help pay for renewables :(

[@MariGolds2]

Safe are they ? For how long ? Untested long term at best. Let's forget about the future of the planet we need to power our miserable AI lives now.

[@chrisdickinson7949]

@@MariGolds2 Super safe ! You need to keep adding Fissile Material to maintain the reaction, Walk away & it all stops Old reactors you had to keep adding Material to STOP it ! Even the old Dangerous reactors have been in Nuclear Subs etc for many decades I am so glad that you don't mind paying the ever-increasing power prices for almost every aspect of modern living, AI included

[@henrimoens8636]

Why the obsession with 'Small' nuclear reactors. Virtue signalling? I'm only a little bit bad. Appeasing the environmental ideologues? We should start building what's tested and available now. Of course, new developments should be kept going for the right reasons: powering remote locations and building reactors on an assembly line.

[@olddog-fv2ox]

Albos mummy marched against nukiller during the Vietnam war and Albo doesnt want to make his mummy look likeva dill

[@jefftysoutube]

The way they talk one expects there is a Small Modular Reactor up and running on every corner of advanced countries. The reality is there are none currently in commercial operation. Guess this is what they mean by "Australia’s energy debate ‘full of deception’ "

[@fatwombat2611]

Our leaders are weak as.... We will be like the Irish exporting potatoes during the famine only it will be with energy.

[@johngeier8692]

They are delusional and are doing great harm to this country.

[@Kawasaki1-m4l]

Power, nuclear or not will be a target in any looming war fact Becoming a dirty bomb, think again Dutton.

[@MariGolds2]

Free market to decide, we would definitely be doomed to greed and doomed to leaking reactors, only a matter of time.. Renewables are fine , keep.nuclear energy and its radio activity out of the country.

[@bettymarshall2702]

Grow up

[@keepitreal2902]

Sky : The key purveyor of lies on energy followed by the LNP.

[@Super_Mario128]

BS!

[@Fourmore-years]

News Corp in writing off its competitors as Left-wing. By trapping its audiences in an echo chamber where its “truth” is the only truth, it justifies its own bias, increasing distrust in credible journalism, polarising its audience and goading its competitors to join its sky news campaigning.

[@Diponty]

@@Fourmore-years Julia I will never ever put forward a carbon tax. Cross my heart!

[@Deljron777]

@@Fourmore-years Can you please let me know which new sources you trust?

[@keepitreal2902]

@@polarbear7255 I like facts and evidence with my news. Not opinions and cherry picked 'experts'. And nuclear is a joke. Dutton refuses to answer how much energy they would produce, how much they will cost, and how he will overcome 5 states that have laws against them. By 2050, only 4% of our energy would come from these reactors, but it is absorbing a lot of air time from people like you who lap it up.

[@daniilkeen6178]

We have nuclear power station in Sydney

[@tassied12]

Lucas Heights is a research reactor, not a nuclear power plant. There is a world of difference between the two.

[@Aaronwhatnow]

Yes. And sky news is the main deliver of it.

[@franktully3065]

You must mean "your" (publicly funded) ABC.

[@Deljron777]

Have you got anything interesting to say? Maybe let us know what your opinion is other than Sky News bad?

[@donmcleod3674]

Do some research for fark sake.

[@Aaronwhatnow]

Nope nothing else As they seem to have triggered you enough ​@Deljron777

[@JIMDEZWAV]

Microsoft , Google , ORACLE , ship's , submarines , military base's , the Moon , basically everyone everywhere all the time will soon have nuclear power station's , that is accept Australia = does not pass the pub test as poll's are now showing 🍻🍻

[@jonathoncalabrese2035]

Misinformation? 😂

[@Poorlineforeva]

By the neutron huggers.

[@Laborout]

By the believer in fairytales. Time to grow up didems.

[@BringBackThe1950s-y3n]

😎

[@Poorlineforeva]

​@@troywallace322 what a vivid imagination you have Troy.

[@wongnaichungrd]

Turnbull and Holmes A Court types have invested in renewables and won’t give up without a huge fight. It’s not about what is best for the countries energy mix just follow the money. And Labor have no ideology other than climate alarmism don’t suits their narrative!

[@tassied12]

Nuclear is simply too expensive. This from Rio Tinto after signing Australia's largest Power Purchase Agreements from wind and solar farms: “As far as we can see … all validated and independent data that exists on costs say that it (nuclear) is a very expensive source of energy. And I think in Australia, certainly, we’ve got low cost wind and solar, and we were going to run with that.”

[@wongnaichungrd]

@@tassied12 All that proves is they have skin in the game! Latest overseas data has Nuclear/renewables 30% cheaper than renewables stand alone over the long term. Transmission costs and remediation are rarely factored in too renewable costs. And of course renewables needs back up!

[@tassied12]

@@wongnaichungrd What overseas data? Nuclear (like any form of generation) needs backup. When nuclear is offline, it is often for a long time. Of 92 operating US power reactors by mid-2017 only 28 did not suffer at least one outage of a year or more. In 2022 over 50% of French nuclear capacity was offline for months. Globally only 1% of power investment is going to nuclear, while 85% is going to renewables. With wind and solar, their modular nature means you can start seeing a return on investment in 2-3 years, compared to nuclear where, based on the evidence of recent projects, you will wait a decade or more to see your first KW. That adds a considerable risk premium to the cost of capital for nuclear. Global nuclear capacity last year went backwards, with new reactors coming online not even keeping up with closures. There was just one new reactor start outside China last year (IAEA reactor database)

[@wongnaichungrd]

@@tassied12 19 out of 20 G 20 countries are either using nuclear power or are in the process of establishing a nuclear industry. What does that tell you? From the recent international energy report: “Nuclear thus remains the dispatchable low-carbon technology with the lowest expected costs in 2025. Only large hydro reservoirs can provide a similar contribution at comparable costs but remain highly dependent on the natural endowments of individual countries. Compared to fossil fuel-based generation, nuclear plants are expected to be more affordable than coal-fired plants. While gas-based combined-cycle gas turbines (CCGTs) are competitive in some regions, their LCOE very much depend on the prices for natural gas and carbon emissions in individual regions. Electricity produced from nuclear long-term operation (LTO) by lifetime extension is highly competitive and remains not only the least cost option for low-carbon generation - when compared to building new power plants - but for all power generation across the board.”

[@tassied12]

@@wongnaichungrd Note the quote is referrring to plants in LTO. These are older plants that have had a chance to pay off their huge capital costs in 20th century energy markets. That world no longer exists. In Australia we have to build new plants in a 21st century power market. Nuclear's share of global energy production is half what it was 25 years ago. In 16 out of 20 G20 countries nuclear output has actually declined since 2010, in only three has it increased. In the last five years, 39 Reactors closed and 28 opened, for a net 7.1 GW reduction in capacity. Over the last decade global solar generation has grown ninefold to reach 1500 Terawatt-hour (TWh) per year while wind generation has tripled to 2300 TWh per year. In that time nuclear has barely moved. Solar's growth rate is 22%, enough to double capacity every 3 years After giving nuclear a 50 year headstart, within 2 years wind and solar will each be generating more power globally than nuclear.

[@troy6882]

Mars rover mission nuke pack two years use one billion dollars worth on lithium battery and NASA's self spin dynamo 30,000 NASA cost to 8 years use with that savings i could have sent a second rocket with battery and robot military grade????? Get with the times

[@trickyboy1517]

“Facts are conveniently omitted or just simply glossed over.”.......... Such as the fact that nuclear energy will cost six to ten times more for consumers in Australia than renewable and fossil energy combined Greenie. Or how "glossed over" it is about how long it will take to build them and where. ;)

[@dontbeasheeple5883]

What an absolute load of bollox.

[@rogermckinnon5738]

​@@dontbeasheeple5883ignore them they're a paid bot

[@trickyboy1517]

@@dontbeasheeple5883 WTF are "bollox"?

[@troywallace322]

Which companies own the renewable energy industry and how much are they going to charge us for electricity. Prices are going up not down.

[@rogermckinnon5738]

@@trickyboy1517 it means you're full of ......🤣