Edna St. Vincent Millay documentary

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@elliehenson7509
@elliehenson7509 2 жыл бұрын
She is my great great great aunt.. wow I can't believe there is a documentary about her.. I have some of her original books
@AuthorDocumentaries
@AuthorDocumentaries 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing...I love it when the families of these authors and poets drop by. Hang onto those books.
@voyaristika5673
@voyaristika5673 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. Do you know if any of her descendants/relatives had her same talent?
@vanessamay3689
@vanessamay3689 Жыл бұрын
@@samsmom400 We celebrate the awesome legacy of talent she has left behind.
@josephsf2452
@josephsf2452 Жыл бұрын
@@samsmom400 why is it horrible? It's only horrible if you cared what other people think. But what others think, is none of our business.
@samsmom400
@samsmom400 Жыл бұрын
@@josephsf2452 having a reputation of using and abusing people is a horrible legacy to leave for your family. I believe that people who don't care about what others think, tend to have the lowest sense of morals. Sociopaths don't care about what others think. They don't have a moral compass and they're very dangerous.
@Ravyne
@Ravyne Жыл бұрын
Ms. Millay was one of the first female poets I discovered as a young student in the 70s. Her words sparked a love of poetry writing in me. Thank you for uploading this documentary of her life.
@glenncbjones
@glenncbjones 2 жыл бұрын
- Kudos to Ms Lines for wonderful readings! Great work from all! This short poem may encapsulate the quintessential E.St.V.M as well as any… “Witch-Wife” She is neither pink nor pale, And she never will be all mine; She learned her hands in a fairy-tale, And her mouth on a valentine. She has more hair than she needs; In the sun ‘tis a woe to me! And her voice is a string of coloured beads, Or steps leading into the sea. She loves me all that she can, And her ways to my ways resign; But she was not made for any man, And she never will be all mine. - Edna St. Vincent Millay
@lmc2375
@lmc2375 Жыл бұрын
"What a life I had when back I should recall I was seen and heard for a time by all Such a rise somehow disguised what became my greatest fall The love I stole, the love I sought, brought me not the love for self Giving way to spiral and decay til but a shell upon a shelf - the very end of me ... And of you, should you fail to see, should you follow me" - LMC After hearing her sad story here, a long poem just fell out of my head. I shortened it to the above. Not EVM worthy, but still a truth I see.
@TeaandLaceJournals
@TeaandLaceJournals 9 ай бұрын
Incredible. ❤
@billbailey7193
@billbailey7193 7 ай бұрын
I read yr poem and thought you were quoting one of E StV M’s poems. That’s pretty good
@debbiefinley7827
@debbiefinley7827 5 ай бұрын
Beautiful poem. Relatable too.
@lindawalker2451
@lindawalker2451 5 ай бұрын
Loved your poem. Thanks.
@dragnflei
@dragnflei 5 ай бұрын
This is really beautiful.
@sheilasmith7779
@sheilasmith7779 2 жыл бұрын
She wanted no boundaries, no limits, no structure, no rules. Her life played out the way it did as a result.
@junelynn63
@junelynn63 Жыл бұрын
I feel like she does but my boundaries are self imposed ,nothing more or less than the golden rule and I'm usually happy or at worst blah meeting her end is unnecessary
@victoriaselwyn8781
@victoriaselwyn8781 5 ай бұрын
Do you say that about male authors?
@jeanettecook1088
@jeanettecook1088 2 жыл бұрын
"If I could have two things in one, the peace of the grave and the light of the sun..."🎉
@DameDarcy999
@DameDarcy999 2 жыл бұрын
Thats such a good one
@artandculture5262
@artandculture5262 2 жыл бұрын
Very good for 2022.
@mariabaca3941
@mariabaca3941 2 жыл бұрын
Wow
@mariabaca3941
@mariabaca3941 2 жыл бұрын
Wow
@DGsa1661
@DGsa1661 2 жыл бұрын
No one had or has a way with words like she did. They are profound in every way ❤️
@simonebittencourt8251
@simonebittencourt8251 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this remarkable documentary. It was such a pleasure to listen to all the participants. Mrs. Millay was surely a brilliant poetess but little she knew about how to threat people with respect. She had such a distorted sense of entitlement. It was all about her desires and needs. The way she spoke about her servants, the way she used and discarded people for hedonistic purposes... just awful and full of callousness. Some people pass through this world causing so much devastation... Her legacy was of great contribution to Literature. Besides that, she was illiterate in regard to empathy.
@marilynchallis5787
@marilynchallis5787 Жыл бұрын
Inspirational to all poets. 👏
@barbarajoyce4737
@barbarajoyce4737 Жыл бұрын
Accurate assessment of an amoral individual. Sad to be so talented and yet empty of so much.
@louiseorieux881
@louiseorieux881 Жыл бұрын
Would you be saying this about her behaviour if she were a man? Such judgement is always reserved for women when they are only expressing their desires with honesty. As well, many of her former lovers indeed stayed friends.
@louiseorieux881
@louiseorieux881 Жыл бұрын
Not that I agree with her sentiments toward her servants. That is just nasty.
@samsmom400
@samsmom400 Жыл бұрын
@@louiseorieux881 yes, the same holds true for men.
@alixedent7127
@alixedent7127 2 жыл бұрын
What a lovely documentary. I was merely looking for a biographical piece to listen to while painting but was entranced. I am, perhaps her newest fan! The actress who read her poems was brilliant with just the right amount of archness to the words. Wonderful. Thank you.
@omfug7148
@omfug7148 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer the actress reading the poems to Millay's reading, her old-timey transatlantic accent is annoying alas
@TomorrowWeLive
@TomorrowWeLive 2 жыл бұрын
@@omfug7148 I feel the opposite. I find Millay's voice beautiful
@janetgeller7272
@janetgeller7272 Жыл бұрын
“archness” love your word choice 💛
@yeowkl7541
@yeowkl7541 Жыл бұрын
@@janetgeller7272 A well-thought and apt phrase indeed.
@ez2u1
@ez2u1 2 жыл бұрын
My mother read her poems to us, alone with others, when I was a child. She wasn’t forgotten
@patricias5122
@patricias5122 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, her poems were a big part of my childhood and early college life. I would have detested her as a person (the way she talks about servants! Comparing them to pigs!) but she was an amazing poet.
@marjoriegarner5369
@marjoriegarner5369 2 жыл бұрын
@@patricias5122 I agree with you about her. A good poet, but a selfish, arrogant person. Often cruel, not considering how she hurt others or how others might feel. Really awful. Tragic.
@ruthhenderson5413
@ruthhenderson5413 Жыл бұрын
My mother and grandmother were big fans of Edna St. Vincent Millay's poetry, but talked of their shock when they went to one of her readings and she came out onstage falling-down drunk. They owned every book she ever wrote, and read me some of what they called her "doggerel" when I was a child, such as: "Safe upon the solid rock the ugly houses stand. Come and see my shining palace, built upon the sand." I grew up memorizing some of her best and most beautiful poems.
@marvinabigby5509
@marvinabigby5509 Жыл бұрын
@@patricias5122 If servants were pigs then she be the trough
@stellasaman1495
@stellasaman1495 2 жыл бұрын
For what shall it profit a man if he shall gain the whole world and lose his own soul?
@TimGreig
@TimGreig 2 жыл бұрын
Nice put.
@glitteringdusk9651
@glitteringdusk9651 2 жыл бұрын
For purpose is a soul when it longs for true death? For if a Faustian bargain must be struck then so be it
@mikeballard8404
@mikeballard8404 Жыл бұрын
Tonite your soul shall be required of you.
@sharonc9552
@sharonc9552 Жыл бұрын
Indeed.....nothing .....absolutely nothing.....her celebrated life is all about her just for all....
@marionopisso212
@marionopisso212 Жыл бұрын
Well at least God loved her. As biblical quotes are scattered among the comments perhaps the quotes saying (1) we are to love everyone, and (2) we are not to judge, would be most appropriate.
@MatthewDLDavidson
@MatthewDLDavidson 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent, very professional documentary about a sad, tragic, significant artist. Thanks for posting.
@badimiagirl1
@badimiagirl1 2 жыл бұрын
I'd never heard of this brilliant woman before this excellent documentary. Thank you.
@BrenB125
@BrenB125 2 жыл бұрын
I never heard of her either.
@sarahjones-jf4pr
@sarahjones-jf4pr Жыл бұрын
Where have you been on the literary front?
@badimiagirl1
@badimiagirl1 Жыл бұрын
@@sarahjones-jf4pr Australia is my country.
@sarahjones-jf4pr
@sarahjones-jf4pr Жыл бұрын
@@badimiagirl1This author is of international fame known worldwide.
@irisstormo6913
@irisstormo6913 2 жыл бұрын
We were homeschoolers and read her poetry. I enjoyed this documentary, thank you.
@CissyPantsCrafts
@CissyPantsCrafts 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this wonderful documentary. I too read her biography a few years back and thought what a phenomenal person. Of course, I was sad for the tragedies of her life but I love her poetry to this day. I think her time will come again.
@AuthorDocumentaries
@AuthorDocumentaries 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I merely posted it, but you're welcome. And I think her time will come again too.
@jennykay-hutchinson3091
@jennykay-hutchinson3091 2 жыл бұрын
I am a teacher of English… never heard of her I am sad to say, at school, Uni or since. I am so glad to have found this; truly remarkable
@samsmom400
@samsmom400 Жыл бұрын
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@stereophonicsmom
@stereophonicsmom Жыл бұрын
English as a language?
@jmh2105
@jmh2105 Жыл бұрын
i am so sad to hear that. Perhaps now you can remedy the disservice Your Teachers had done by allowing you to be ignorant of her work, by offering her Poetry to expand Your student's frame of reference... their minds & hearts?
@greedyfirstalgorithmlast26
@greedyfirstalgorithmlast26 2 жыл бұрын
I am a very well read 73 Years old man, Raised by Grandmother, who also never spoke of Edna St. Vincent Millay: well she passed away 1950, I was born 1949. She is another Wonderful Woman and I am very happy to learn _ in my Old Age.
@madelainepetrin1430
@madelainepetrin1430 2 жыл бұрын
Surprising! She is in several anthologies if you studied American poetry. I graduated in the 1990s.
@samsmom400
@samsmom400 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful woman? That's quite a stretch there.
@voyaristika5673
@voyaristika5673 2 жыл бұрын
Her personal life was such an enigma to a mind like mine, so scattered and unsettled, that her poetry has an almost savant explanation. It's really astonishing she survived as long as she did once the addictions got such a powerful hold on her. I'd like to hear a qualified psychologist or psychiatrist offer up some explanation for some of her extreme behavior. Why are so many wildly creative people so plagued by tragedy? Thanks for the great video!
@jeraldbaxter3532
@jeraldbaxter3532 Жыл бұрын
Everyone's life is filled with tragedy, heartache, soul rending pain; some people find ways to cope, more or less successfully, while others eventually fall victim to life. The main difference, to address your question as to why creative people are plagued with tragedy, is that creative's mine their pain for art, and if successful, then we know of their pain and think it...what? Marvelous is not the word; perhaps fascinating, as a rearing cobra, it's hood spread and poised to strike, is fascinating. Go to a coffee shop, ride on public transit and discreetly eavesdrop on others conversation, and you will see that famous artists are not made different because of their tragedy, but because they found ways to deal with their pain in ways others founding interesting.
@toriblocker3238
@toriblocker3238 Жыл бұрын
She let her misery become her life.
@maddieb.4282
@maddieb.4282 Жыл бұрын
@@toriblocker3238 Did she LET it, or did the misery overtake her? Don't shame a victim of severe mental illness by saying she had control over it
@karenfitzpatrick6256
@karenfitzpatrick6256 Жыл бұрын
I would say she was nourished by the extreme passions that drove her. Literally her sustenance. Her fragile body had no choice but to continue surviving despite conditions that would be incompatible with life in anyone else. To be sure, she was a medical enigma. The tragedies surrounding her were only the collateral damage of allowing pure chaotic emotion to keep the heart beating. Emotions are always self-righteous and so fickle. The World is so fortunate that she had the gift of poetic expression. A glimpse into a madness that makes no sense yet will continue to deeply touch people as long as there is poetry. She didn't want to ever die. In a way, she never will.
@jmdenison
@jmdenison Жыл бұрын
Because as you grow older you will understand that you must suffer to be an artist
@axiomist4488
@axiomist4488 2 жыл бұрын
A fine poet ; A sad ending . I really enjoyed the past hour and a half. This is quite a good documentary about a poet I've never been familiar with, but now I feel as if I had . I'm now, you could say, one of Edna Millay's fans .
@garyk.nedrow8302
@garyk.nedrow8302 Жыл бұрын
What I find most remarkable about this video are the sympathetic scholars who provide the commentary and the analysis of Millay's life and work. They are all to be commended. The insights of Nancy Milford and Elizabeth Barnett are both accurate and endearing, and one regrets not having the opportunity to visit with them. As for Millay as a poet, she was facile and technically gifted, but with a very narrow artistic vision. All of her poems are autobiographical examinations, even those that are not love poems. She was extremely self-absorbed and in passionate pursuit of experiences of all kinds, without regard to the consequences, as J.D. McClatchy points out. In this she was not unlike the other writers of her era -- Scott and Zelda Fitzgerald, Hemingway, Dorothy Parker, Ezra Pound, et al -- who were all equally limited as artists and equally stunted as human beings. Millay was the voice of the feminists of the 1920s, just as Fitzgerald was the voice of the Jazz Age. And when the age passed, their limitations became apparent and their work no longer resonated with an audience that had moved on. All of them enjoyed the celebrity of the moment and outlived the fad. In Millay's case, she seemed incapable of expressing anything but her own feelings. Where are the larger ideas about life? About other people? Her contemporaries were not so limited. "Mending Wall" is not about Frost, "The Wasteland" is not about T.S. Eliot, "You, Andrew Marvel" is not about Archibald MacLeish. Those poems derive from the poet's experience, as they must, but they are about something more than the self. Millay, on the other hand, seems never to have been able to transcend herself, to see the world whole. Her own feelings were her sole theme, and also her weakness as a poet. Today, like Fitzgerald and Hemingway, her celebrity and her persona has become more important than her works.
@samsmom400
@samsmom400 Жыл бұрын
Very well said. Too bad the narrator's didn't figure this out.
@hilariousname6826
@hilariousname6826 Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure I can agree with you in regard to Fitzgerald, Hemingway, and ... Ezra Pound, fer gawd's sake - "equally limited"?? .... (And Hemingway, whatever his limitations, was probably the most influential prose-stylist of the past century, in English at least, for better or for worse.) But "a very narrow artistic vision" is certainly an apt description of Millay's work, and comparison with her contemporaries such as Frost et al is telling.
@mobius4897
@mobius4897 Жыл бұрын
She wrote about life from her perspective. I don't see that as a fault in anyway, sorry.
@alisoncushing7587
@alisoncushing7587 Жыл бұрын
She brings insight to the thoughts and needs of the human being. Some are brave enough to go their own way
@mosart7025
@mosart7025 8 ай бұрын
So a comparison to Taylor Swift is not ill-based?
@pcbrightlights
@pcbrightlights Жыл бұрын
The actress reading her poetry and writings is excellent!
@tmmckee
@tmmckee Жыл бұрын
I love the woman reading her poems. I like listening to hear reading them more than the ones with Edna reading them online.
@Kaytecando
@Kaytecando 2 жыл бұрын
I read a biography on her years ago. And you never hear anything about this most gifted poet, so thank you for this.
@jeanettesdaughter
@jeanettesdaughter 2 жыл бұрын
That was Savage Beauty most likely. Extraordinary woman.
@marilynbartlett1850
@marilynbartlett1850 Жыл бұрын
@@jeanettesdaughter yes, that was an excellent biography, in fact one of the best I've ever read. Highly recommended.
@LollieVox
@LollieVox Жыл бұрын
Is that biography more elucidating?
@LollieVox
@LollieVox Жыл бұрын
Oh man I was disturbed by her view of her servants & treatment of them. It’s over shadowing my admiration for her talent & freedom. Maybe she had Asperger syndrome? That would at the least make me understand. Perhaps she is a narcissist.
@dozergetscrafty
@dozergetscrafty 2 жыл бұрын
Her poem 'The Suicide' is just amazing. I performed it in highschool competitively when i was on the forensics team. I always got good feedback.
@montanacrone8984
@montanacrone8984 2 жыл бұрын
Omg, I did, too!
@judithcoloma613
@judithcoloma613 2 жыл бұрын
I performed the "Harp Weaver".
@LollieVox
@LollieVox Жыл бұрын
You guys did better…I did Walt Whitman leaves of grass.
@eamestv
@eamestv Жыл бұрын
What a joy to have seen this. So well done. Lovely readings, and information by all. Ms. Lines was delightful. The poem 'Memory of Cape Cod' by Ms. Millay was selected and read by Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg at Jacqueline Kennedy's funeral on 84th and Park in 1994, NYC. Thank you, for this time well spent!
@herbertlongfellow7702
@herbertlongfellow7702 2 жыл бұрын
These documentaries are super, so well crafted. i just looked up Nancy Milford, she seems like such a good story teller/ raconteur. She passed away only a few weeks ago, the end of March. RiP Ms. Milford. I shall certainly be reading the biographies you have written.
@AuthorDocumentaries
@AuthorDocumentaries 2 жыл бұрын
That's too bad. I just read that Liz Barnett died a year or two after this was filmed and now her daughter is president of the Millay society. You can really feel the love they all have for Edna coming through.
@pipfox7834
@pipfox7834 2 жыл бұрын
Jessica Mitford was a handy writer too, there was a classic she wrote about the funeral industry in the US. A great writer can make any subject completely riveting! not sure whether Jessica still lives, she would be very elderly if so. The Mitford girls, the aristocratic counterpoint to the Brontes...
@merriestroscher5795
@merriestroscher5795 2 жыл бұрын
Milford not Mitford
@twistoffate4791
@twistoffate4791 2 жыл бұрын
@@merriestroscher5795 Exactly. Thank you.
@michellelekas211
@michellelekas211 2 жыл бұрын
@@twistoffate4791 IT IS MITFORD and yes, Jessica was my favorite of the sisters but Nancy was a fabulous novelist and biographer (Millay, Zelda Fitzgerald). Jessica passed in 1996. Unity, Deborah, Pamela, Nancy, Jessica were the Mitford sisters.
@michaelknapp8961
@michaelknapp8961 2 жыл бұрын
I graduated from college 22 years and took a lot of poetry classes but I don’t remember her name coming up ever! What a brilliant brilliant writer that should be thought of with the great American poets!!
@madelainepetrin1430
@madelainepetrin1430 2 жыл бұрын
She was in my English poetry anthology. Not her best poems however...
@dreamsofturtles1828
@dreamsofturtles1828 2 жыл бұрын
I remember taking a poetry class at the art college i was attending. We were told to buy a book "Americas 100 Best Poems " Or "Poets"- i cant remember- this was over 40 years ago . But i DO remember that there were only 2 women poets represented in the entire book. Neither one was Millay. Maybe thats how she came to be forgotten.
@elizabethbrown8833
@elizabethbrown8833 2 жыл бұрын
Your comment and experience are a single sunbeam successfully surviving a tumultuous tumble through an especially dark atmospheric cloud... 🙏🎭
@madelainepetrin1430
@madelainepetrin1430 2 жыл бұрын
At least Emily Dickinson and Sylvia Plath?
@dreamsofturtles1828
@dreamsofturtles1828 Жыл бұрын
@@madelainepetrin1430 Sylvia Plath and i believe Elizabeth Bishop. Btw, the teacher of that class was co author of the book and a poet too. Very full of himself too i might add.
@madelainepetrin1430
@madelainepetrin1430 Жыл бұрын
@dreams of turtles my professor was Cesar Blake, his last year teaching. I kept his anthology. Last night, I was reading Don Juan by Lord Byron, and I must say I found it very humorous. I was laughing out loud at some passages. Finally, the gender of the poet is irrelevant. What matters is the poem, the rhymes, and the emotions.
@danhanqvist4237
@danhanqvist4237 2 жыл бұрын
It's weird that she could ever have been forgotten. She's brilliant.
@danhanqvist4237
@danhanqvist4237 2 жыл бұрын
@@michellelekas211 Luckily we're permitted to differ on poetic taste. I like her very much. And I think she's far superior to much of what passes for poetry today.
@kathygann7632
@kathygann7632 2 жыл бұрын
She wasn’t a man. A man who’d been that famous would be celebrated.
@danhanqvist4237
@danhanqvist4237 2 жыл бұрын
@@kathygann7632 Could well be. But a great many male poets have also fallen out of fashion.
@kathygann7632
@kathygann7632 2 жыл бұрын
@@danhanqvist4237 that’s true, but there so few women, and she won a Pulitzer Prize. She should at least be covered in English and American literature classes. When my son went to college he was disgusted that almost no American writers at all were discussed, just ones from the UK.
@danhanqvist4237
@danhanqvist4237 2 жыл бұрын
@@kathygann7632 She should of course be in literature classes. She was when I went to high school in the US in the 1980s.
@bobbyantonelli7978
@bobbyantonelli7978 Жыл бұрын
What a woman! What poetry! I’m so moved by this video.
@montanacrone8984
@montanacrone8984 2 жыл бұрын
Dear Edna taught me since I was 13. I memorized her words and took them to heart.
@dismith73
@dismith73 2 жыл бұрын
Edna St. Vincent Millay February 22, 1892 - October 19, 1950 I am not resigned to the shutting away of loving hearts in the hard ground. So it is, and so it will be, for so it has been, time out of mind: Into the darkness they go, the wise and the lovely. Crowned With lilies and with laurel they go; but I am not resigned. Lovers and thinkers, into the earth with you. Be one with the dull, the indiscriminate dust. A fragment of what you felt, of what you knew, A formula, a phrase remains,-but the best is lost. The answers quick and keen, the honest look, the laughter, the love,- They are gone. They are gone to feed the roses. Elegant and curled Is the blossom. Fragrant is the blossom. I know. But I do not approve. More precious was the light in your eyes than all the roses in the world. Down, down, down into the darkness of the grave Gently they go, the beautiful, the tender, the kind; Quietly they go, the intelligent, the witty, the brave. I know. But I do not approve. And I am not resigned.
@RiaLake
@RiaLake 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Dirge Without Music. 😥❤
@whitneysmith6752
@whitneysmith6752 Жыл бұрын
This is my anti loss of life of my family and friends and animals ANTHEM. I do not approve.
@leeslabach7427
@leeslabach7427 2 жыл бұрын
Her poems remain among my favorites; started in high school in the early 1960's for Speech class. She touches a person's soul....
@mariemorgan7759
@mariemorgan7759 2 жыл бұрын
Witch Wife is my favorite poem of hers. Thanks for the biography!❤️
@franklinstephen3268
@franklinstephen3268 Жыл бұрын
Hello how are you doing?
@karenfitzpatrick6256
@karenfitzpatrick6256 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful tribute to a very unique woman. So flawed and yet that was an intricate part of her larger than life passion. Thank you for uploading this documentary.
@hollyw9566
@hollyw9566 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised at her meanness to the servants. Being rude to your servants is just plain dumb. They have so many ways of getting even. Serving spit soup is the least of them. lol She is my favorite poet, however, in spite of that terrible sin.
@meman6964
@meman6964 2 жыл бұрын
Usually those who have been poor and later succeeded are kind to those who do still work for a living. To be mean to servants surprised me
@TomorrowWeLive
@TomorrowWeLive 2 жыл бұрын
@@meman6964 I was going to say the opposite. It comes from insecurity. Those genuinely born into wealth and privilege have no need to be rude to those below them to demonstrate their superiority; on the contrary, they go out of their way to be magnanimous and gracious. Good breeding and all that. They're also prepared to put up with a certain amount of insolence, disrespect, laziness, bad behaviour, etc. from servants since that's all part of noblesse oblige. But those who have had to claw their way up from the bottom feel their position is precarious, so they look down on the lower class since they remind them of what they used to be. They sometimes put them down in order to reinforce the gap between them and their own recently-acquired tenuously-held higher status. That's been my observation. Similar to how nobody's nastier to women than other women. Familiarity breeds contempt whereas unfamiliarity breeds romsnticisation. People I know who've been brought up privileged and with no real experience of poverty or contact with the poor see them as poor oppressed helpless victims and are very lefty and concerned with 'social justice' and so on. But people like me who come from the lower middle class and who have been around plenty of poor people, been in their houses, etc. have very little sympathy for them since we know their poverty comes from their own poor habits and life choices. They choose to be the way they are, and I think they prefer it. In just the same way, nobody despises dole bludgers more than their next door neighbours working their backsides off on minimum wage.
@LittleOrla
@LittleOrla 2 жыл бұрын
@@TomorrowWeLive That may be true of some, but most certainly not all. The same for the statement that growing up poor will somehow make you magically kind to others.
@pisceanbeauty2503
@pisceanbeauty2503 4 ай бұрын
@@TomorrowWeLive All of that just sounds like self hatred to me. Many who come from those environments still understand the challenges that lower income people face, and that their “bad choices” don’t exist in a vacuum.
@misterpibb108
@misterpibb108 2 жыл бұрын
They say she's forgotten? I wasn't aware. My family adores her. I just assumed her fame was universal.
@gigidayz6936
@gigidayz6936 2 жыл бұрын
Me too!! You can't love Mary Oliver without Edna!!
@debhurd8898
@debhurd8898 2 жыл бұрын
I think she's not at all forgotten.
@Campfire30
@Campfire30 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard a lot about her, but never heard that she was forgotten lol
@judithclark2823
@judithclark2823 2 жыл бұрын
Such a sad lonely ending to such beautiful brilliance. Thank you for this amazing documentary on such an extraordinary life.
@sophialewis5474
@sophialewis5474 Жыл бұрын
Every single thing about this Millay documentary beautiful and sublime. Thank you for sharing❤
@darrisnelson5223
@darrisnelson5223 2 жыл бұрын
This series of documentaries is so well done! Thank you so much!
@Mary-mj9mf
@Mary-mj9mf 2 жыл бұрын
..."The only people I really hate are servants, they are not really human beings at all.. ....even their sins are not human sins...but the sins of magpies,of monkeys, serpents and pigs"!!!!! Wow what a vicious poem! How cruel and untrue.
@simonebittencourt8251
@simonebittencourt8251 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, such callous words! She despised the very people who made her life easier. I feel so sorry for them. I try to imagine how mistreated they were. Her sense of entitlement was so grotesque. Brilliant poetess, but despicable person. She spent her life using and descarting people. Her servants were human beings, something she was not.
@Wanamaker1946
@Wanamaker1946 2 жыл бұрын
I see this quote as pretty nasty. Who is this bi-ch? She was just a self appointed narcissist who used people and wrote poems of complaining and lamentations. It’s easy to see why she’s been dumped. She was basically a hooker…….of course she hated the Help, because they saw right through her. She was the sin.
@jerrimenard3092
@jerrimenard3092 Жыл бұрын
It is untrue and disgusting. Still, as a poet myself, I can tell you, sometimes I get " downloads" that are so not me. I suspect she was taken up into the clouds like that too. Some of those can get very dark.
@mperry2906
@mperry2906 4 ай бұрын
I wonder if some of her resentment came from the fact that servants see all and know all--they aren't fooled by public image and marketing. She wants to believe they are a different class of people so she doesn't have to feel or value their judgment.
@sarahhearn-vonfoerster7401
@sarahhearn-vonfoerster7401 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful presentation...humorous, ironic, and serious moments interspersed perfectly. So natural, as she must have been. As a child required to scribble 4th grade poetry, I imitated her because I loved the lilt of her name ....I became a musician, and wrote many songs. The kinship is so close, although I regret that her art form failed to overcome her illness and addictions. Tragic loss.
@danhanqvist4237
@danhanqvist4237 2 жыл бұрын
It seems to me Edna kept a strong loyalty, above all, to her mother and then her sisters.
@northernlassie2755
@northernlassie2755 Жыл бұрын
I think the loss of her father leaving them and the struggles her mother had to raise them all, had a profound affect on her. I dont think she ever got over the abandonment and lack of his love.
@mindjoystudio6436
@mindjoystudio6436 2 жыл бұрын
This film I think was well informed, its share of details not the norm, Millay, more a student of self, still was brilliant, her works, a wealth, the way Ms. Edna wrote from life, must have given some relief from strife, every word a road once traveled, every book, an era unraveled. By Me
@ruthgodfrey6955
@ruthgodfrey6955 2 жыл бұрын
Oh , the choices we make..... very interesting story.
@cheri238
@cheri238 2 жыл бұрын
My dear Edna, you will never be forgotten!! Again, I am watching this documentary about Edna. As in my existence, I can understand her complicated life, her passions, her obsessions, and her addictions. I too agree she was possibly was probably a manic depressive. Although, I am not a doctor. A broken flower of unknown dimensions that still shines in hearts that don't judge. A life that is a life that flames with passion, joy, and tragedy. We all suffer do we not? The transformation we may be able to gain if we live long enough. Edna will always be one of America's great poets. Reverence ✨️ ❤️ Thank you for this documentary. .
@rebekahwilson7703
@rebekahwilson7703 2 жыл бұрын
Other than knowing she was a poet, I didn’t know anything about her life. This was enlightening to say the least. She certainly was brilliant! Having said that, she was not a kind person. I believe the latter should be sought after so much more than the former.
@Shineon83
@Shineon83 4 ай бұрын
Agreed!
@maybee...
@maybee... 2 жыл бұрын
Even her name is poetic. My mother loved to recite poetry, Robert Service was one of her favorites, as well as Robert Frost.
@HerAeolianHarp
@HerAeolianHarp 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this program.
@AuthorDocumentaries
@AuthorDocumentaries 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome 👍
@sherelynwhite4130
@sherelynwhite4130 Жыл бұрын
Awesome documentary! I learned so much! Thank you for the poignant story of this remarkable woman's life!
@missclimpson
@missclimpson Жыл бұрын
Her life isn’t so different from other writers of her generation like Fitzgerald and Hemingway. The alcoholism, affairs, broken health, addiction, and early death. I was such a fan of hers back in the 60s.
@samsmom400
@samsmom400 Жыл бұрын
Why?
@artsiecrafty4164
@artsiecrafty4164 Жыл бұрын
Me too!
@bernitajenkins3180
@bernitajenkins3180 Жыл бұрын
Not all won the Pulitzer, though.
@josephcollins6033
@josephcollins6033 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this.
@avs4365
@avs4365 2 жыл бұрын
Simply captivating. A wonderous individual with a sharp bite and melodic tongue.
@brendoncampbell6457
@brendoncampbell6457 2 жыл бұрын
I love her poem about spring - 'Is it enough that yearly down this hill April comes babbling like an idiot and strewing flowers?' Also, Leonard Bernstein puts to music one of her poems in his song-cycle 'Songfest'. (Also Walt Whitman.)
@jeannettebarker1716
@jeannettebarker1716 2 жыл бұрын
I had one favorite poem of hers ina book of poetry stolen. It was haunting. I had no idea. Thank you for this documentary.
@madeleinebelle2105
@madeleinebelle2105 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this well researched insight into yet another no longer with us character of times past. Atmospheric and informative of a different era. Where the result of Wars had such a profound impact on how people lived/loved afterwards. The agonies and sacrifices some experience for the love of another...as with her Husband. She certainly allowed "a lovely light" to rise up from within a place of conflict and shadows.
@trandall8
@trandall8 Жыл бұрын
Kudos! This was an extremely well done documentary!
@adelel6516
@adelel6516 2 жыл бұрын
thank you so much for uploading these!
@AuthorDocumentaries
@AuthorDocumentaries 2 жыл бұрын
No problem!
@edmondedwards6729
@edmondedwards6729 2 жыл бұрын
I never heard a word of her other than her name till this evening, and so happy I have
@Shineon83
@Shineon83 4 ай бұрын
I believe that sometimes people confuse mania with genius….She could write, but lacked the self discipline which could have taken her gifts to greater heights… Unfortunately, she believed that rules didn’t apply to her….in the end, her narcissism destroyed her
@communitygardener17
@communitygardener17 2 жыл бұрын
Those who judge reveal themselves. I have treasured her work at many points of life and shared her with friends, and later my daughter. I appreciate this story and will add it to other bits of her story.
@annmccarthy2101
@annmccarthy2101 2 жыл бұрын
A very well made documentary about about a loathsome human being who wrote brilliant poetry.
@carolinearmitage1815
@carolinearmitage1815 2 жыл бұрын
A wonderful documentary, telling us the story of a fascinating, extraordinary life.
@franklinstephen3268
@franklinstephen3268 Жыл бұрын
Hello how are you doing?
@maggiegarber246
@maggiegarber246 2 жыл бұрын
I read Renascence when I was 14; it was in my Freshman English book. I remember part of it 60 years later.
@leeslabach7427
@leeslabach7427 2 жыл бұрын
Me, too!!
@leahquispe4569
@leahquispe4569 Жыл бұрын
My Favorite
@Dina-md3ji
@Dina-md3ji Жыл бұрын
Good documentary
@reasonrestored9116
@reasonrestored9116 2 жыл бұрын
Love the actress who is reading her
@debhurd8898
@debhurd8898 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite has always been Recuerdo. I've loved it since I was 12 or 13. Another great documentary 👍💖
@jamieleesilverEFT-Tapping
@jamieleesilverEFT-Tapping Жыл бұрын
Recuerdo was always my favorite, too. I loved my big volume of her poetry and knew nothing of her life.
@michellerenye548
@michellerenye548 Жыл бұрын
Tnanks for this documentary from Spain. I'll include it in my Sisters. Workshops with Poems for Lifelong Learners of English, where I have designed a listening activitiy based on the viewing of this documentary and another on textual structure in documentaries, based on this http address too. Love her poetry! So alive!
@Bvcggdert
@Bvcggdert 4 ай бұрын
This is so wonderful, thank you!
@giteducalme
@giteducalme Жыл бұрын
Loved this documentary, and to know about her life and, of course, her incredible poems.
@Baskerville22
@Baskerville22 2 жыл бұрын
Let's be frank: Millay was a 'nympho'. 18 different lovers in the space of 1 month is pretty good evidence.
@AAMARTCLUB
@AAMARTCLUB Жыл бұрын
A very sympathetic and comprehensive study. She appears to be the classic narcissist: vain, cruel, transactional and not terribly deep. Her poetry is fun, sometimes trite, often cruel and spoiled. She used people mercilessly and forgot the charm when dealing with servants who she despised. An utter horror! A butterfly made of cold steel decked in velvet. I enjoyed the story but hated the way she treated people, beginning to wish she could only Fall in Love, fall and experience the deep feelings she’d inspired in innocent others. So against my character I was not sad when she finally fell in love - unrequited - which must have been a blow to that massive ego. Her husband might well have been a functioning masochist; how else would he have managed? She benefitted from a 90% under-educated population. Many more women emerged of higher quality once education was available. In a later cohort I suspect she would not have been noticed as a poet.
@ComplicatedCupcake
@ComplicatedCupcake 2 жыл бұрын
They have proven that people with red hair need more medication to have an effect, also with premature babies as well. Maybe that is why she took so many drugs to get the same relief from pain as anyone else would.
@stereophonicsmom
@stereophonicsmom Жыл бұрын
Yes!!!! I’ve only had 2 doctors that knew this. I carry the studies with me. It’s terrifying. I have/had to get multiple surgeries for spinal issues and then a horrible car accident. I give my dentist credit for knowing. Thank you for bringing this up.
@holly52ful
@holly52ful Жыл бұрын
I honestly don’t understand people’s acceptance to those who treat other humans with disdain! Treating the poor with respect gives honor to our creator!
@mckavitt13
@mckavitt13 Жыл бұрын
I love especially her sonnets. Gorgeous poetry.
@Edward-xw8rj
@Edward-xw8rj 2 жыл бұрын
The only people she really hates are servants. They aren’t human beings. The other people she didn’t hate but she used Until she had no further use for them. Then they were simply discarded. No wonder she was neurotic, although she was a very good poet.
@CB-zf5wt
@CB-zf5wt 2 жыл бұрын
“She did what all good writers do, she behaved badly.”
@traciebecker6669
@traciebecker6669 2 жыл бұрын
I think what I have heard of her poetry was average at best.
@Edward-xw8rj
@Edward-xw8rj 2 жыл бұрын
@@traciebecker6669 Maybe that explains why she has largely forgotten today.
@RiaLake
@RiaLake 2 жыл бұрын
@@Edward-xw8rj How could Edna forget today, she is dead!
@samsmom400
@samsmom400 Жыл бұрын
@@CB-zf5wt when I heard that, I thought, "What an idiot."
@paulahermes4941
@paulahermes4941 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for such an amazing documentary of an extraordinary woman, really enjoyed this past hour and a half, and now to exploring poetry I never knew existed.
@debraday9898
@debraday9898 5 ай бұрын
Thank u for this wonderful biography!
@jmdenison
@jmdenison Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video. Now she is beloved by so many more people including me and she is just a brilliant brilliant genius. Is there such a thing? I know she could write a poem about it
@JJW77
@JJW77 2 жыл бұрын
Another well done documentary - from a Write Like fan and subscriber.
@camijo7730
@camijo7730 Жыл бұрын
Well, I must write a long story here, that includes a poetry course I took in college. I am an unpublished poet, inspired from the age of 7. As an adult, and a young mother, I suddenly decided to take an evening poetry class. I began a lengthy, detailed essay/paper about her, and had a horrible time getting down to the task! I REALLY connected with her, beyond this physical world, as I am also a medium/channel. On the last few days before it was due, I became very ill with severe bronchitis. Slaved, struggled over the typewriter, late at night to get it finished, and truly felt like I was dying!! She came through to me. She truly was with me. I felt like I was meeting a past life version of myself. I started to believe it that night. I finally finished this, 'intense' paper at 4am the following morning, which was, I very suddenly and shockingly noticed, Her Birthday! Yes, I've felt Deeply connected to her. 💓😘🌟
@markmccreary9605
@markmccreary9605 2 жыл бұрын
Not all great poets are self-indulgent wrecks.
@FigaroHey
@FigaroHey 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. I don't know why the 'experts' say a couple of times that to be a poet you basically have to be ruthless toward other people. No, not really.
@Nursebakr
@Nursebakr Жыл бұрын
Great presentation. It's a shame she thought she was better than "servants." She forgot where she came from. Missed humanity. Sad.
@31Alden
@31Alden Жыл бұрын
An illuminating, enlightening presentation very well done with thoughtful narrators/scholarly commentators.
@vickyacom
@vickyacom Жыл бұрын
Sad story. Beautiful story telling. She was a terribly great poet although not the most pleasant person. Thank you for this!
@elizabethesztergomy1070
@elizabethesztergomy1070 Жыл бұрын
What an elegant yet adventurous soul . May she be always seen in life as she wished
@janetmaree8582
@janetmaree8582 2 жыл бұрын
“Time does not bring relief. You all have lied.”
@marybarratt2649
@marybarratt2649 Жыл бұрын
Such an interesting documentary, which I found by chance. Thank you for uploading.
@pbasswil
@pbasswil 2 жыл бұрын
Yikes! Aside from her peerless poetic gift: She was a bit like a personification of all the conflicts in that century's first generation. Started off like it was her personal assignment to crash through all 'Victorian era' values. Then the shock & senseless horror of WW I. Then she, like that generation, made it their mission to make up for all the dead, by living multiple lives in a matter of a decade or so (the '20s). Then as they're aging, they realize: Ok, we shook off the old values. We're done with sacrificing our own lives for musty ideals & creeds. We slaked all our thirsts, including carnal ones. But oh $#¡†: now we're aging, and.... what the heck is left to orient our lives to?? We forgot about replacing the old values with new values of our own. What a wild ride; but I would never choose to be part of that lost, shipwrecked generation - least of all E SV M.
@pbasswil
@pbasswil Жыл бұрын
@Blue Bee Interesting, your end phrase! I get what you mean about 'that template' fitting any generation; there _is_ a typical life contour of rebellion followed by an updating of personal values, in any era. But Imho, E SV MI's life is in the top 3% _extreme_ example of that pattern - and also imho, she never found any kind of peace. I happen to _be_ in my decay years, and no doubt will become fragile. But I won't die alone, drunk, alienated from all my old friends & lovers, and shellshocked by how my life has ended up. And my personal relations are anything but frigid, thank goodness. I'm not saying this to hold myself as a paradigm (far from it); but to highlight how unsatisfying _her_ life turned out.
@Tinyflypie
@Tinyflypie Жыл бұрын
​@pbasswil may I say you write beautifully. Articulate concise and oh so expressive. If these are your decay years you are doing it well
@pbasswil
@pbasswil Жыл бұрын
@@Tinyflypie Hey, thanks for your kind words! And it's gratifying to know some people actually read Comments. Cheers to ya. :^)
@Tinyflypie
@Tinyflypie Жыл бұрын
@pbasswil I am an avid reader of comments. In my old age I am discovering that, although there are many idiots in the world, there are also more intelligent, kind, and knowledgeable people than I had ever dared hope for. A pleasant discovery as le soleil se couche sur ma vie
@janetpattison8474
@janetpattison8474 Жыл бұрын
By far, the most beautiful poem I’ve ever read is Edna St Vincent Miley’s “The Ballad of the Harp Weaver”.
@sheilasmith7779
@sheilasmith7779 2 жыл бұрын
Grateful for Edna's gift. Unfortunate she was unable to have developed an outstanding character. The condition of the soul is directly related to life satisfaction. Unhappy woman
@FigaroHey
@FigaroHey 2 жыл бұрын
Father wound... Pretty obvious.
@annellewellyn5535
@annellewellyn5535 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the opportunity to listen to & learn about E StV M.
@alexandermarquis6197
@alexandermarquis6197 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing, I really enjoyed this.
@KellyfromMemphisDD214
@KellyfromMemphisDD214 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting life story, although I find I do not actually like her too much.
@sandiangel
@sandiangel 2 жыл бұрын
Me either. I like the people that are talking about her however. I find them interesting
@michellelekas211
@michellelekas211 2 жыл бұрын
"Like" her? I don't really think her poetry (sorry) is that great: it is no wonder why it fell away after her death, but her life was amazing!!!
@judilynn9569
@judilynn9569 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. She was a racist, promiscuous narcissist.
@dolly7639
@dolly7639 2 жыл бұрын
There's this wrong idea that for an artist to achieve greatness they must be free of bourgeois moral restraint. I believe the opposite is, in fact, true. I think she would have reached greater heights and become utterly fulfilled had she remained faithful to her moral core. Her talent was greater than her character. All her boozing, cheating, betrayal, drug use, hateful behavior, and using people for sex didn't help her writing, it just left a wake of bad feelings and harmed her legacy.
@TomorrowWeLive
@TomorrowWeLive 2 жыл бұрын
She didn't have a moral core, that's was the point.
@samsmom400
@samsmom400 Жыл бұрын
So very true. Sadly, this documentary tried to glamorize her pitiful lifestyle. Too bad they didn't emphasize that was her undoing. Maybe they did, I couldn't listen all the way through, I have no interest in such narcissistic behavior.
@traciebecker6669
@traciebecker6669 2 жыл бұрын
This is an impressive documentary and I enjoyed how her story was told. I feel sorry for the waste her life became. What a horrid tragedy. She behaved like a narcissist who confused her desire or lust with love. She didn't care what was right or wrong. Her poor husband was a foolish victim too or a glutton for punishment. Perhaps he should have told her to chose to stay, straighten up or go after who she wanted, leave him alone and then divorce her. Her story proves that being promiscuous with sex and drugs doesn't make you happy. A warning I hope others will see.
@donnastoy8783
@donnastoy8783 2 жыл бұрын
It’s true she didn’t seem to treat people as well as she could have. But what if whatever caused her to do that was the very thing that made her a great poet
@CarolSmith_authoress_
@CarolSmith_authoress_ 2 жыл бұрын
High intelligence correlates with a higher incidence of bipolar disorder.
@traciebecker6669
@traciebecker6669 2 жыл бұрын
@@CarolSmith_authoress_ no excuse to abuse others, especially those who she or others employed to help her. She was mentally healthy enough to accomplish much, yet she was self centered and lacking in grace. I suppose she might have treated people better if they stood up to her and didn't tolerate her nastiness. She thought her ability to write put her above others. Well, remember that old saying, "pride goeth before a fall". Turned out very literally in her ending.
@sheilasmith7779
@sheilasmith7779 2 жыл бұрын
@@CarolSmith_authoress_ Completely untrue. There is no social science or research supporting your claim. Bipolar is a condition rooted in anxiety. All mental health conditions fall into one of two categories: Depression or Anxiety. Even low I.Q people can suffer from anxiety.
@samsmom400
@samsmom400 Жыл бұрын
@@sheilasmith7779 I guess you're unfamiliar with the term sociopath.
@johannagarcelon148
@johannagarcelon148 2 жыл бұрын
In my late mother’s artifacts my brother and I found handwritten in pencil instructions for our mother such as changing the bed linens etc. This would’ve been sometime in the mid 1940’s before her 1947 marriage to our father.
@marjoriegarner5369
@marjoriegarner5369 2 жыл бұрын
Johann, can you tell me what your comment has to do with Millay? I'm just curious.
@samsmom400
@samsmom400 Жыл бұрын
?
@Ellen-hs7zb
@Ellen-hs7zb Жыл бұрын
@@marjoriegarner5369 Probably a KZbin mess up; they dropped a comment of mine into every page I clicked on after that and making no sense whatsoever to the present video, until I rebooted my computer.
@marissaclaridge7627
@marissaclaridge7627 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharingxxx
@sheilasmith7779
@sheilasmith7779 2 жыл бұрын
An explanation not an excuse: Could her mistreatment of sevants been a hatred for her past history of poverty? She saw her past in those servants.
@FigaroHey
@FigaroHey 2 жыл бұрын
Snobbery always has to put someone else down in order to deny one's own deep-seated sense of worthlessness.
@RiaLake
@RiaLake 2 жыл бұрын
Could she in fact have really bad servants? How many did she have, maybe she should have hired them in the first place.
@samsmom400
@samsmom400 Жыл бұрын
When I hear someone say such vile things about people, I could care less about the reasons for behind such ugliness.
@spotit2502
@spotit2502 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps her loathing of her servants was rooted in the common indiscretions between the servants and male members of the household
@mrs.cracker4622
@mrs.cracker4622 Жыл бұрын
What a very sad life. I had no idea.
@deanaburnham9571
@deanaburnham9571 Жыл бұрын
Regarding her sexuality they romanticized what was nothing more than an addiction. She was horribly out of control. She was an academic and an artist but that did not stop her from fully developing an life threatening addiction that led to dire consequences that destroyed her character. Very scary.
@deanaburnham9571
@deanaburnham9571 Жыл бұрын
❤ So yep. Her addictions increased in kinds. Bipolar, sounds like she was. Very sad. She found ways to keep the manic euphoria. Sounds like she forgot the episodes of near psychosis. But maybe at her worst, she learned the soulful most. The most soulful and meaningful. She didn't slay her demons apparently in this life. By the mercy of God she might have been saved from herself for the afterlife. I pray. Memory eternal. Amen.
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