Authoritarianism v. Democracy: Francis Fukuyama on The Year of Elections | Amanpour and Company

[@sandraspidle5972]

I enjoy this news station sooo much. Thank you all.🇺🇸🦅🌹 It is great to listen to genuine and honest interviews.

[@peterreston6478]

Francis Fukuyama is someone I truly admire. He would be on my list of American intellectuals that should be preserved in the Strangelovian bunker after the button is pressed. As things are he won't be accompanied by too many peers.

[@andrewtaynton3402]

Thank you. Informative video.

[@999reader]

I recommend reading Fukuyama’s bestseller and not reject him based on the title assigned by a publisher.

[@SupremeInvigilator]

This. People don't know that authors don't chose their headlines

[@scottgaillard8486]

I suggest people read all the great work he's done since then. The Origins of Political Order and it's companion are brilliant.

[@joem0088]

If you mean "End of History," all common sense tells us that there is very little chance of that.

[@jeffdady8325]

Fukuyama disagree with JC.Vance's declaration, but fukuyama supported the war in irak in 2003 and now he feels excluded by the politic side he supported. What a irony of fate !

[@cliffgaither]

This guy still has no idea about history. _The End of History ?_ _He was laughed off the historical stage and returned with humble pie all over his face._ _NATO is a defensive organization ?_ _NATO war against Yugoslavia and its aggressive behavior, even outside of Its borders ( Libya, Afghanistan and Iraq )._ Fukuyama has not grown very much with age.

[@brucemclennan9715]

Why is it always those that haven’t been ‘in harm’s way’ are always the most flippant about war games…..

[@aftdel]

True. He’s gone full neocon. So flippant and superficial.

[@ericsierra-franco7802]

You just don't like his opinion. Nothing flippant about it. Policy makers are civilians in the US. We do not have a military government.

[@ericsierra-franco7802]

​@@aftdelLudicrous comment.

[@yelinmanu7204]

Please more from prof Fukuyama

[@pcopeland15]

Thanks

[@nextinstitute7824]

Interesting!

[@ericsierra-franco7802]

Fukayama's book "The Origins of Political Order" is brilliant.

[@girdharrathi6728]

Democracy can,and must fight back. Look at Modi in India ,and a similar autocratic regime in poland. Defeated partly or wholly. By a democratic upsurge.

[@caspar9794]

In the US, with only two parties, the real danger is to maintain an opposition the Democratic Party. The Republican Party isn't doing it, and they get worse every election, and a democracy is only works if there are several serious parties you can choose from. If the Democratic party is the only serious party, America will not remain a democracy, that's impossible. Democracy is a culture of debate and accountability that has to be tested and stressed all the time..

[@patrickvernon4766]

The Democratic Party pushed out Bernie in 2016 and no-one vote for Kamala. It isn’t democracy

[@billmeek4777]

If you Americans vote in trump don’t cry when he and Putin and North Korean , join forces so you can bow to said leader ,, laugh if you want but it will be no joke ,, think this election through,,, this is the free world not just America

[@thl205]

oh i'm laughing. People say Russians don't have a good sense of humor since all the comedians were forced out of the country, but this comment was hilarious.

[@west_park7993]

pls dont call us "you americans" we are diverse. some support trvmp, some do not. this is our country, our business. just dont put us all in one bucket.

[@waynegore5291]

Fukuyama is a good carpenter. All other things he worked on are not important at all.

[@quddusquddus136]

What a great answer to the last question. Thousands of people are slaughtered in Ukraine. It's so heartening to see this great historian makes a visit there. "A handful of humanity is preferred over the wealth of all nations." He remains "the best."

[@honorhonor3352]

@@quddusquddus136 Now he should visit Gaza.

[@jeffdady8325]

Fukuyama supported the american invasion og irak in 2003. So now he is not credible to lessons

[@west_park7993]

he is one of those that brought us the iraw war.

[@sambaxrock]

@@honorhonor3352I was about to say the same. The end of history of the empire.

[@dennis-qu7bs]

We have forgotten what autocracy is so we let democracy slip away.

[@jeffdady8325]

How do we call a political regime who invide other countries and detroying and killing civilan peoples under false reasons like USA did in irak in 2003 ? Is it not an authoritarian behavior ? Fukuyama has supported the american invasion of Irak in 2003, just a reminder

[@tommcfadden5232]

The author of the End of History…..he got that wrong. Best to take his arguments with a grain of salt.

[@Mkundera]

Written by someone who obviously did not read the book. Love the Internet.

[@cosimocub]

so what. Fukuyama is great

[@kyleolson9636]

​@Mkundera Why do you say that? I feel it's pretty clear The End of History has been proven to be quite inaccurate at this point. Fukuyama even backtracked on most of his optimism in a 2014 Wall Street Journal article, and voiced even more pessimism in 2016 after Brexit and Trump's election victory. Even if western democracy survives these attacks from autocratic leaders both foreign and domestic, it's obvious the fight wasn't won in the 90s.

[@tommcfadden5232]

@@Mkundera not too late for you to read the book and compare his optimistic predictions with the past quarter century.

[@Mkundera]

@@tommcfadden5232 Ha ha come on, you obviously haven't read it. Who are you kidding?

[@qzhang25]

NATO is a pure defensive organization?

[@gregoryamour3388]

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[@phil20_20]

They have a primer for Trump, #47.

[@user_ar6332]

If the US votes Democrats to power, US would slide down to the club of third-world countries.

[@makestank4800]

Yes! totally agree my friend. Our country doesn't need a king, and a pack of looney tunes, on a fascist bent to run it forever. 💙

[@tankeriv]

Tump a facisct???? Whats chicken Harris according to you? She's the extremist here mam.

[@pictureworksdenver]

The end of the end of history.

[@KY-te4mn]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 how long that lasted !!???????

[@1848revolt]

This guy is a joke. People still give him the time of day?

[@jaimerodriguez397]

Absolutely wonderful interview. Thank you

[@phil20_20]

Today, Joe Biden's jurisdiction ends at the Russian border. Time for a new sheriff. That's always been my biggest complaint about him. He kind of hedges on everything instead of bringing things to a good conclusion. He's absolutely right about the Democrats. They're like a Push-me Pull-ya. Forget the Donkey. He's mild by comparison. Maybe harnessed to a mule. Biden is just the type of institutionalist that supports the status quo. We need a whole lot of fresh blood, and not just in the Administration. We need West Coast people, the kind who come on merchant ships from all over the World!

[@Ashoerchen]

You had that for four years. Look forward to more.

[@SupremeInvigilator]

Wow he's still alive and working? Great, but wow.

[@lewis40001]

What happened to “the end of history,” Francis?

[@1848revolt]

It didn't end that's what happened.

[@PUB2BM7T]

Probably the only thing you read was the title.

[@1848revolt]

@@PUB2BM7T the guy is totally discredited.

[@PUB2BM7T]

@@1848revolt another one that only reads title. He stated in his end of history book that history didn’t end, rather that the ideal for democracy and its institutions that came along with the American and French revolution meant that humanity found the cornerstone to live outside monarchies, kings, queens, totalitarians and so on. by the end of the 18th century, only a handful of democracy were alive, by the end of the 20th most countries in the world were; Therefore the end of history. I know you’re gonna come with a cheap “We’re not a democracy.” title reader.

[@1848revolt]

@@PUB2BM7T there are no democracies on the planet. There is only oligarchies where the rich and powerful control everything. He was fully discredited.

[@paulevans4905]

It's a bluff, until it isnt.

[@dpelpal]

Unless it's Russia and the entire world is laughing at their army😂

[@briancase6180]

Russia invaded Ukraine because Putin has a strange theory about the legitimacy of Ukraine as a culture and a sovereign, NOT because of NATO. He admits this. STOP asking if NATO is the problem. That's a ridiculous assertion. Thanks for the interview.

[@multipleleekisms]

Over 3 decades later and it appears that Francis Fukayama was overall, quite wrong in his book "The End of History and the Last Man," and Jacques Derrida in his sort of open-ended response in his book "Specters of Marx" was quite right. The Specters of the past are haunting us in greater intensity all over the Western world for the past several decades, and it's not gonna be enough to just defeat the populist right this election. We need to seriously rethink if liberal democracy in its current form is the apex of humanity, with its neverending cycles of production, consumption, exploitation and alienation. Democracy has been under threat for decades now, chipping away under the cynical Neoliberal ideology of selfish individualistic behavior at work and at home. This is the stew that birthed Trump and his populist demagoguery, after all I mean, if I were making a video game about Neoliberal capitalism, Trump would be the final boss battle! Class stopped being something we could talk about... So ID pol and culture wars, something always was the purview of the right actually, sucked up all the air out of the conversation. It's been actively used as a divide and conquer strategy by our own for a long time and now, even the authoritarians in Russia and China are using it against us. Fukayama seems like a smart, humble, thoughtful guy nonetheless and will always be an American to people like me and the big tent liberal-left in this international sense needs to start a concerted effort in its confrontation with corporate-state power and increase democracy at the workplace. We were so hell bent on "destroying socialism" as the far right still is, but in the process... We have all but destroyed the social. I must admit Biden and the Democrats seems to have started to realize this but it must continue... This doesn't stop with just defeating Trump only again.

[@gitwindoixphog613]

Fukuyama continuing his unblemished record of being wrong. Its sad how far Western Academia has fallen.

[@alexcipriani6003]

populism is just democracy when you don’t like the outcomes

[@buzoff4642]

Populism, the broad political backlash from excessive elitism.

[@martinvanburen4578]

Uh no...populism is mass ignorance, democracy is mass apathy

[@graterdeddly9527]

Fukayama is undoubtedly a smart fellow, but sometimes he mystifies me in his seeming naïveté. Perhaps it is disingenuous, perhaps is for a Point that eludes. He says that NATO is a purely defensive alliance, and yes it began as such but since the demise of its raison d’etre in the Soviet Union. Yet it has expanded for unexplained reasons into Eastern Europe and then provocatively into former Soviet republics. Remembering that these republics like Estonia and Latvia had long been territorial components of the Russian Empire and the move of Western power into these regions was unprecedented, perhaps not since the Christianization efforts of the Teutonic knights around 1400. The most egregious omission on Fukayama’s part is not mentioning NATO’s aggressive bombing campaign against Serbia for its internal issues involving the Kosovars. This concluded with the leveling of large parts of Serbian infrastructure and the loss of territory as a result of NATO military attack. This was not an isolated event as in 2011 NATO launched an air attack against Libya that resulted in the removal from power of Muammar Gaddafi, and his killing. Whether these operations were justified is not relevant, the question is whether NATO is clearly defensive in nature and it is not. A longtime adage in international strategic thinking is that every offensive system serves a purpose as a defense and the same is true of defensive systems-even a tall wall has implications as an offensive weapon.

[@JanRostkowski]

Putin is proud of you. Why did central and eastern european countries eagerly join NATO? Not because at NATO HQ some Generals said we need to expand. The reason is that the voters in former Warsaw Pact states well remembered the Russian occupation, brutality, exploitation and oppression and worried that sooner or later another Stalin admirer would try to put the USSR or Russian Empire back together. So they voted for parties in Budapest, Sofia, Warsaw, etc which had NATO membership on their agenda. How right they were shows the current Russian invasion of Ukraine which regrettably due to German and UK veto did not make it into NATO in time.

[@graterdeddly9527]

Joining NATO is a pretty good deal for just about any country-you get the USA to pay for your defense without being threatened since money bags is clear across an enormous ocean and has no interest in occupying your country. The more important question is whether Americans get anything from it - do they really want to send their boys to die for Montenegro? A country most have never heard of, yet it is in NATO and Americans are on the hook life and limb for its defense. NATO is a relic of the Cold War and no one has been able to explain a purpose for Americans to be concerned about the security of Europe absent an expansionist Soviet Union - a continent full of wealthy countries fully capable of protecting themselves.

[@righteousrico]

BINGO

[@scottgaillard8486]

Thank you Professors Fukuyama and Isaacson for demonstrating American exceptionalism.

[@buckfezos]

"Well Ukraine invaded Russia weeks ago and they haven't nuked anyone yet" AYFKM?

[@davecampbellknowledgeleader]

For Dr. Francis Fukuyama: if you had written the following 28th Amendment Draft, how would you go about establishing as a global high creed to inspire democracy? By merit of content it stands to reason it will become a historical writing, but as I’m a U.S. citizen my having written it is apparently reflective of having zero value among elite leaders of academia, government and commerce. But now it’s in your hands, what would you do? The 28th Amendment - Working Draft A Fourth Branch of Government, The Authoritative Branch, We The People, is to be established as the first branch of government, preceding the executive branch and completing a four part model of governance that calls for the identification of consenting governed citizens to include all citizens of the United States Of America, not excluding those citizens of the United States serving in the executive, legislative or judicial branches. Four Branches Of United States Government - Conceptual Model For Self-Governed Citizens Authoritative Branch We The People Executive Branch Legislative Branch Judicial Branch Purpose To strike permanent, clear and immutable understanding that the identity of the United States citizen is a consenting governed identity consisting of four branches of government whereby the hallmark of our freedom from tyranny centers on the self evidence that all people are created equal, and the freedoms we enjoy are not to be diminished by oppressive abusers of the rule of law. No citizen of the United States of America shall be considered inferior to any other citizen regardless of any demographic or implied positional authority. Thus reaffirming the rights and privileges afforded the US Citizen are not undermined by the wealth or resources of any citizen over another. End. So please help me. I’m a fan. Greatly appreciate your work and yet there is apparently some great gulf between us. I long to close the gap will you help me?

[@peteo5704]

I would be pleased to have a discussion with you about your proposal for a constitutional amendment that would address some issues, impossible for the founders to predict 250 years ago. I think we could both benefit from more awareness of the basis for our ideas. Whether it is your fourth branch or my concept of the selfish, empathy- deficit- disordered subhumans, I am sure that, like me, you have written supporting essays as your thinking about this additional branch has evolved.

[@davecampbellknowledgeleader]

@@peteo5704 please locate the blog and add your comments as this is the basis for obtaining transparency and building all projects ethically. Our initial discussion in the blog also helps to strengthen our unique positions as well as tackle the issues as they are identified. Any open discussion should be on a podcast and livestream. Thanks for your interest!!! Let’s keep this discussion going. 28th Amendment link on homepage

[@pageek3487]

1:10 wait, we can put restrictions on arms sales? 😂

[@Johnitnyre]

That might be illegal because it would limit profits to shareholders

[@pageek3487]

How? The government is not obligated to buy weapons from them.

[@buzoff4642]

@@pageek3487 Current US law is that no monies for weapons will be given to foreign nations who block humanitarian aid. Washington is breaking our laws, including this one. Yes, we can put restrictions on arms sales. But none of it matters, when corrupt politicians suffer no repercussions for breaking our laws.

[@pageek3487]

@@buzoff4642 I hear you.

[@honorhonor3352]

Listening to this guy makes me think not everyone gets wiser with old age.

[@kevinjenner9502]

He was active in Robert Kagan and William Kristol”s Neocon think tank “Project for the New American Century” (a blueprint for ceaseless war in the Middle East) He also supported Bush’s illegal invasion of Iraq….

[@markfisher6404]

What specifically do you find to be unwise in his comments?

[@kevinjenner9502]

Was an active participant in the “Project for the New American Century” (a blueprint for ceaseless war in the Middle East) Actively supported Bush’s illegal invasion of Iraq.

[@honorhonor3352]

@@markfisher6404 NATO is a defensive pact? My ass.

[@markfisher6404]

@@honorhonor3352 ok. I agree with your assessment. NATO long ago jumped that shark

[@MichaelBrown-ph2pe]

If we can judge the accuracy of a scholar's comments by the size of the ever present background book cases on display, Dr. Fukuyama's are questionable at best. If you need more proof, just read his own book The End of History and the Last Man. At Stanford U, as well as all other notable universities in the US, adherence to the official narrative is all the matters.

[@SujitSivanand]

A threat is a threat and it cannot be a bluff. The one who threatens still holds flexibility over the options, which is why it remains a threat. How stupid to call a threat a bluff! This man is losing his sense of realism.

[@brenkelly8163]

Being pro-liberal, being for certain parties in certain countries is not pro-democracy. If a nation has fair elections and choose what you think is a party that is no good, then that's too bad. The people have spoken. Democracy doesn't function when you rig the elections of permanently strip citizens of their right to vote. When you can't discuss that, then you don't know American history and avoid it with talk of two countries that are both historically corrupt at war, you are avoiding the topic. In 1901, the Supreme Court ruled not to allow certain American citizens to vote yet, because they weren't ready. They should wait a few years before allowing American citizens to vote for their leader and "representatives" with real power. 120 years later, they still can't vote. Generations of American citizens born on American soil with a US Passport in hand canNOT vote for their leader in Puerto Rico, Guam, the Marshall Islands, etc. Millions. Permanently disenfranchised in a democracy? You call that a democracy? You should have ask this so called democracy expert about permanent disenfranchisement and seem he hem, haw, and rationalize the topic away, saying he equivalent of something like, well this coloreds don't deserve democracy. And DC. Please tell me in which European capital city bans its citizens in that nation's capital city from voting for their leader? Waiting....waiting... Crickets. We have absurd reasons to rationalize this away and no responsibility for stripping the rights away from voters. The new nationwide disenfranchisement system of black Americans started AFTER the 1965 VRA took effect. Please. This guy can't even talk about mass American disenfranchisement in America over the one hundred and 30 years. And you bring him on to talk about democracy? What a joke.

[@DianaOng-z9i]

This guy really makes a simple guy like me feels good and smart. Take someone like Miersheimer, l am overawed by his brilliance and clarity each time l listen to him. For Fukuyama, lacks the simple wisdom of learning from Hiroshima - do not, absolutely do not take any chance on nuclear possibility. It’s irresponsible, it’s dumb. Just to impose your neocon philosophy, you are willing to put the whole of humanity at risk. Why the whining and crying about democratic backsliding? Because it does not work in its current form. It needs some re engineering. Learn from Teng Siow Ping, with a simple tweak, see how it works wonders turning China from one of the poorest nation to a nation that makes America trembles. So just use any cats to catch your minds. Don’t spend your brilliant mice pontificating if it should be black or white.

[@live_free_or_perish]

We became complacent while the oppressive police states gained power. Russia, China, and Iran gained strength while we slept.

[@michaelh.sanders2388]

Makes me wonder who the master politician is Biden sure has a lot more experience.

[@jmhorange]

Also I would add, the whole point of the Kursk invasion was to force Russia to move Russian troops off the front line to protect Kursk, thus weakening Russia and getting Russia closer to the negotiating table from a weaker position. Russia say thru that ruse and instead chose to double down on the front line now weakened by Ukraine pulling some of its best troops to take Kursk land that's mostly small villages and empty terrain and push the Ukrainians back to gain strategic territory before the winter, thereby weakening Ukraine's hand. And they are using troops not important to the front line and in Russia to start retaking Kursk territory from the Ukrainians, also weakening Ukraine's hand. Now that's being spun as Russia not defending their territory so they won't with restrictions lifted on long range missiles used in Russia?!? Like is this guy even thinking this thing thru? This Fukuyama needs to focus on revising his end of history rather than commenting on the war. He's just repeating Western propaganda that could result in us getting into a direct war with Russia or accelerating the collapse of the Ukrainian army as Russia reacts to our escalation.

[@inakale]

yeah, rich people just didn't think it will affect population if they move all production abroad. totally innocent babies

[@buzoff4642]

Didn't think it'd affect population? That's generous. I'm under the impression, they and the politicians just didn't care if it did or didn't. They're expecting no repercussions. Relative to the 1800s, there've not been much.

[@patrickvernon4766]

It’s not democracy they want to preserve but rather liberalism; liberal capitalism

[@west_park7993]

whats wrong with liberalism?

[@patrickvernon4766]

It’s an oligarchy, an antiwhite oligarchy that wishes to control the entire planet and basically no better or no more dignified than slavery, I’m repulsed you even have to ask, what do you mean what’s wrong with it, what is right with it?

[@Bronxguyanese]

Too many pbs and npr want democracy however democracy allows demogogary. Also democracy can only work if people are collective share same view points. Liberals in the Anglosphere don't share collective views thus creates communities.

[@poriyarohani5866]

Didn't he also think Russia wouldn't invade Ukraine?

[@Mkundera]

Big fan of Francis Fukuyama but be misstates or at least oversimplifies a point. As about the 15:40 mark he says that "At the beginning of the American republic it was only white men with property" who could vote. This is not exactly correct. In some states, free black men who met property qualifications could vote during the early years of the republic, Massachusetts and New York come to mind.

[@buzoff4642]

"who met property qualifications" An inconsequential tidbit, given the poverty rate of the general public, including black men.

[@jmhorange]

If Russia hadn't reacted to our previous escalations, Ukraine would have won the war by now. Russia did react, just not in the way the West wants, they reacted in a way that weakened Ukraine's position in the war. That's why the HIMARs, the tanks, the f-16s didn't change the tide of war. Because it was based on the premise that Russia wouldn't react and continue fighting exactly the way they had before the escalation happened. The same thing will happen with lifting restrictions on long range missiles in Russia. Lifting them would hurt the current Russian military, but the Russian military facing lifted restrictions will be a Russian military that's reacting. Then when we are disappointed Ukraine isn't doing as well as we predicted, there will be a new weapon Ukraine needs, and pundits and politicians will claim, "Remember when Russia said they would react to long range missiles hitting their territory? They did nothing! Let's give this new weapons, it will surely help Ukraine win the war, because Russia's all bluff, they never react. And the US and Russia will be one step closer to a nuclear war.

[@brucemclennan9715]

Professor Fukuyama is very quick to expand the war into Russia, but this is the historian who wrote “The End of History”, erroneously thinking democracy was the new reality in world geopolitics- his timing and assumptions were dead wrong. There is a reason why he should remain in academia. Not to be mean, but it is jarring to view him not looking to his listeners, it gives the impression that he perceives that he is speaking down to his listeners- perhaps as a reaction to his unfortunate timing and theme of his book.

[@dennisyoung9500]

A bit hard to listen to FF knowing of his penchant for right wing apologetics.

[@1848revolt]

And him getting everything 100% wrong.

[@ericsierra-franco7802]

​@@1848revoltHardly.

[@doug3691]

Take care of the basics, or basic politics will destroy you.

[@czarquetzal8344]

This right Hegelian failed to predict 21st century politics, hehehehe.

[@BoulevardClues]

U know why? Because we arent exhausting our days on people who worked for decades to make fun for us. We're stuck on rides. Theres mo way out without rides. Now i get moody and I bitch closer to home.

[@bd3199]

That book hasn't aged well.

[@Maxwell-mv9rx]

He says elite class control capitalism create inequalities it is modern pictures of the capitalism. Democracy dont keep out this caracterization. However liberal revolution does put on elite corrupt out.

[@willielee5253]

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[@bl5752]

Isn't this the "end of history" guy? Maybe not a great analyst.

[@davisoaresalves5179]

Such an icon and idol.

[@tankeriv]

You mean idiot not idol

[@CulturalEngineer]

The liberal hegemony approach is well intentioned... And leads to Hell... As it's already done repeatedly.

[@mnemonija]

I mean the idea that nato or usa ever attacked anyone, other than Korea, Vietnam, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen and a few other South and central american and african nobodies, is preposterous. The gall of even mentioning it... Who do these people think they are?

[@BubnHubn]

Oh, hello Mr. "End of History", new predictions? haha

[@markfisher6404]

Your ignorance of his meaning is showing

[@BubnHubn]

@@markfisher6404 you know, I kind of do not trust people who were so blatantly wrong about the state of world politics

[@markfisher6404]

@@BubnHubn so you think an alternative to capitalism has emerged since the fall of the USSR?

[@BubnHubn]

@@markfisher6404 no, I was talking about his book "End of history"

[@markfisher6404]

@@BubnHubn which you clearly have not taken time to understand

[@michaelseet9320]

Francis is reckless..

[@1848revolt]

Is this the guy that said the end of history had happened? This guy is a joke.

[@ericsierra-franco7802]

You're taking one thing of his and extrapolating that all of his opinions are invalid.

[@1848revolt]

@@ericsierra-franco7802 he is totally discredited.

[@1848revolt]

@@ericsierra-franco7802 he claims liberal democracies have ended how humans have been since the dawn of man and liberal democracies are totally discredited and falling apart right in front of our eyes. But you do you.

[@1848revolt]

@@ericsierra-franco7802 what kind of neo liberal hack would say liberal democracies with capitalism is the end of history as in its never going to get better. Considering the amount of ideologies that have come along throughout history? Also look around liberal democracies are failing for a reason. It doesn't deliver for the people.

[@broAnansi]

Fukuyama wrong then and wrong now. Unrepentant neocon despite his denials

[@M1984FA]

Francis Fukuyama, the new warhawk. Sad.

[@Interglacial_optimist]

Your guest says that russia hasn't moved at all in Kursk. A blatant lie.

[@letsRegulateSociopaths]

Whatever Vlad

[@Interglacial_optimist]

@@letsRegulateSociopaths Truth hurts doesn't it

[@gongtang7736]

Liar

[@HerrK2008]

Ah, American militarism is the answer. Of course! Isaacson doesn’t even attempt to play the role of journalist here, asking the tough questions, but settles for being merely a celebrity interviewer.

[@Raymond-d2l7n]

Fukuyama is just another myopic academic. Put him up against Mearsheimer.

[@Interglacial_optimist]

What extremism are you talking about? What democracy are we taking for granted when the democratic Candidate was never elected by the fifty states in their primaries? Ukraine cancelled their elections and live under martial law.

[@paulevans4905]

Don't bring facts....feelings only.

[@NobodyCares-qn7yc]

This is not an "anti" response to what you've said above Interglacial, it's more for informational purposes. If you research the nominee selection process and continue to take the research a few steps further with relevance for the current situation you will understand how the process works with delegates and other selectors.

[@Interglacial_optimist]

@@NobodyCares-qn7yc We get to choose between someone we don't like and someone nobody voted for. Without a free press, which disappeared in 2003 during the invasion of iraq , the american democracy died.

[@buzoff4642]

Primaries, interesting topic. There is no requirement to win primaries. And given 50% of voters are Independent, the two minority parties, R with 25% and D with 25%, in some states do banish Independents from voting. Else, according to the polls, Sanders would've easily won the D primary. It's not just the district lines being gerrymandered. The voting processes and the demographics by location are also.

[@buzoff4642]

@@Interglacial_optimist Free press was turned into Agenda press, when Reagan repealed The Fairness Doctrine.

[@brandalyn8298]

Really bad perspective here

[@markfisher6404]

Really vague comment here

[@brandalyn8298]

@@markfisher6404 to be clear, this is a high brow perspective that underestimates the threat to democracy and the real problems and conflicts growing under the surface. It’s important to take a broad scope perspective that considers resilience within systems but this is rich guy academic copium

[@letsRegulateSociopaths]

That's not "democracy" you are referencing, it is Capitalism, and corruption...

[@buzoff4642]

Capitalism and corruption are two different things. Buying politicians, in any economic or political configuration. All hierarchy is susceptible to corruption - nations, religions, households, businesses, etc.

[@jjgreen5206]

We aren’t going to Fascism or Authoritarianism🙄 I’m sick of these nihilistic, opportunistic authors

[@markfisher6404]

Technocratic authoritarianism is being focus tested currently with control mechanisms being field tested in Gaza and Ukraine

[@Interglacial_optimist]

Ukraine is upset that they picked a fight with their neighbor and the united states isn't giving them enough ammunition?

[@cristinskadell338]

Ukraine was attacked and had to defend themselves.

[@patallen229]

The fascists of Ukraine have been exterminating Russian speaking Ukrainians and Russia had protested and signed a treaty to stop this but we ignored it , Putin gave us warning after warning and called Biden and Biden refused to talk this war is at least partly our fault. ​@@cristinskadell338

[@sitechca70]

@@cristinskadell338 You need not have bothered to reply. Any idiot with a brain and who can read knows Ukraine is the victim here. For them to spout blatant lies clearly shows they either believed or are pushing propaganda.

[@letsRegulateSociopaths]

Are you insane or think everyone is stupid? Ukraine is DEFENDING itself

[@Interglacial_optimist]

@@letsRegulateSociopaths Ukraine didn't have the weapons to defend itself so...

[@joem0088]

"Authoritarianism v. Democracy" is a tired cliche. Just a montra to divide and to polarise.