Autism: Challenging Behaviour (Controversial Autism Treatment Documentary) | Real Stories

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6 жыл бұрын

If you thought you knew everything you needed to know about autism, think again.
Prepare to have your preconceptions challenged by this intelligent, moving and gripping BBC exploration of the controversy surrounding Applied Behaviour Analysis (ABA), an intensive intervention used to treat autism.
Parents who want ABA for their children passionately believe that it is the best way to teach a child new skills and to help them function in mainstream society, but critics of ABA argue that it is dehumanising and abusive to try to eliminate autistic behaviour. Documentary first broadcast in 2013.
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@amelidominik9385
@amelidominik9385 Жыл бұрын
'fixing' children is the saddest goal you can have as a behavioural therapist...incredible
@shanelka8304
@shanelka8304 Жыл бұрын
You must train them to obey. Must.
@filipeflower
@filipeflower Жыл бұрын
@@shanelka8304 Obey whom?
@iLitAfuseiCantStop
@iLitAfuseiCantStop 6 жыл бұрын
It bothers me to hear the therapist that worked with Richard saying he "fixed" him. Children on the autism spectrum shouldn't be viewed as kids who need to be "fixed" but rather kids who need to be helped to reach their (individual) full potential.
@LadyCoyKoi
@LadyCoyKoi 6 жыл бұрын
Beautifully stated and what all people who work with individuals with ASD ought to aspire to.
@linneamariequentin8216
@linneamariequentin8216 4 жыл бұрын
@paul8kangas I'm curious to where you get your information & facts from?
@goodgirlkay
@goodgirlkay 4 жыл бұрын
You language police make me laugh. Whatever you want to call it or however you want to describe it....the kid is a high-functioning, normal teen who will live independently. The therapy he recieved WORKED!
@kerenton5897
@kerenton5897 4 жыл бұрын
your right, fixed means dead.
@funny.gon-12
@funny.gon-12 4 жыл бұрын
if it ain't broke dont fix it austisic people arent broken they just need help .
@AshyAkakpo
@AshyAkakpo 2 жыл бұрын
That kid, Richard. Him being told that he’s been “fixed”.. is so cruel. He hasn’t been “fixed”, he’s just learnt how to mask. Which is so harmful.
@simonesobel7882
@simonesobel7882 2 жыл бұрын
It's interesting cause I've never seen a therapist treat a kid like that. Apparently that kid does well in school, plays normally on a sport team.has a girlfriend, and behaves like a regular high-schooler. Why wouldn't parents want that, instead of a very problematic kid who is behind in school, and can't communicate properly. He's very much improved. Autistic girls mask naturally, they are smarter. They learn from nuerotypical kids. But this guy wouldn't be able to fix a severe Autistic kid. A nonverbal kid will never talk, and many don't progress intellectually ever.
@sanaalsarayreh
@sanaalsarayreh 2 жыл бұрын
@@simonesobel7882 anything and everything with practice is achievable.
@filipeflower
@filipeflower 2 жыл бұрын
@@simonesobel7882 You do realize "normal" is a subjective term, right? Also, you're generalizing.
@ElectricDreams10
@ElectricDreams10 2 жыл бұрын
@@filipeflower Everything is subjective therefore nothing is real
@ely_wannadie2551
@ely_wannadie2551 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I definitely feel that with just any good education and therapy he would’ve spoken and functioned, there’s not enough various cases to prove it’s the method that worked
@Mysterious_Ace
@Mysterious_Ace 2 жыл бұрын
I was exposed to extreme ABA ages 10 to 13. If I did exactly what I was told, I was allowed basic needs, such as allowed to eat lunch and allowed to use the school bathroom. If I didn't understand or dare asked for what I needed in a way they didn't like, they yelled at me, singled me out in front of the other kids at school, and even physically ab*sed. This "ABA" approach and ab*se made me su*cidal at the age of only eleven. I will always be against it.
@genakrocodil4839
@genakrocodil4839 2 жыл бұрын
ah...How awfully behaved were you conditioned by your mommy to be, so compliance training made you so upset? You must comply, period. You must. You are not a boss of universe.
@filipeflower
@filipeflower 2 жыл бұрын
@@genakrocodil4839 Neither are you.
@svetavinogradova4243
@svetavinogradova4243 2 жыл бұрын
Due to this ABA you are tolerable to others. If your behaviour is allowed to be such that everyone hates you, you will get suicidal anyway. They you palatable enough to be ok to be with. Be grateful.
@svetavinogradova4243
@svetavinogradova4243 2 жыл бұрын
@@filipeflower Nobody it, pimple, autism is not an excuse .
@filipeflower
@filipeflower 2 жыл бұрын
@@svetavinogradova4243 Excuse for what exactly?
@christacalaban4609
@christacalaban4609 6 жыл бұрын
I was a nanny for an Autistic girl and her family used music therapy that helped calm her. It was really the only time when she was calm and interactive. I would be so frustrated with myself at times because I couldn't understand what she needed for about a year, finally I went out and got these flash cards that had photos of milk or apples and swings so she could bring me one when she wanted something. It helped us communicate and we gained this bond that I will forever remember. Her parents gave me an updated a few years ago that she is in a special community where she has her own room and a "job" shes doing well and that is all i could ever hope for her.
@jodyrudd1831
@jodyrudd1831 5 жыл бұрын
This is wonderful. You used aac to communicate effectively, you probably made a big difference. X
@kimsha8507
@kimsha8507 5 жыл бұрын
What a lovely nanny you were...that family was blessed to have
@erickkisreal9398
@erickkisreal9398 4 жыл бұрын
hope they paid you extra. You deserve it
@vedantgg7084
@vedantgg7084 4 жыл бұрын
Music therapy is very useful my hyper child quite 1hours when listening music on head phone
@awesomeamy6722
@awesomeamy6722 4 жыл бұрын
I'm autistic and music calms me down
@Guppyg53
@Guppyg53 6 жыл бұрын
This section of youtube... i just want to reach out and hug everyone going through struggles every day. No matter what youre going through right now remember you are loved. No matter how bad it gets know that there are people who are wishing you nothing but the happiness you deserve
@laurahale9309
@laurahale9309 4 жыл бұрын
What a kind message! Thank you!
@bharathig9201
@bharathig9201 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the love
@adamski2344
@adamski2344 3 жыл бұрын
If only the human race was actually like that most people I have encountered like to pick on me because I have autism I don’t have a social life and education live because different I struggle and the only people that understand are autistic people and this program are training them like dogs it makes me sick to my stomach
@helenjames6982
@helenjames6982 3 жыл бұрын
You too
@AZRAEL_FURY
@AZRAEL_FURY 3 жыл бұрын
Please watch the documentary called Vaxxed, you can find it here on YT.
@shazdoryt
@shazdoryt 4 жыл бұрын
I feel physically sick watching this video. The environment is sensory overload for a start. That boy is being made to conform and he clearly isn't ready. Happy ASC children learn and are motivated.... the hands on approach is just so harmful. I had an ASC sibling who committed suicide eventually... she was treated like this. I am ASC and managed to mask to conform and ended up with mental health issues. There are no easy answers but many attitudes in this video are offensive to me personally.
@ellioshiem7892
@ellioshiem7892 2 жыл бұрын
yes, too much sensory...you are correct.
@kinekarma961
@kinekarma961 2 жыл бұрын
Agree. Painfull to watch. Adults power tripping, distressed children, and the speed of which the interventionists give commands, I cannot believe prefessional child carers and educators of today support this.That the greatest success story the norwegian guy has of his intervenening with autistic children is a teenager who doesn't remember anything at all from his childhood, that kind of says a whole bunch.
@Hambonehoven
@Hambonehoven 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine having to sit in front of a plate of vomit or feces while they cut it up. It’s the same level of aversion and it’s just cruelty
@burningtears9882
@burningtears9882 2 жыл бұрын
@@kinekarma961 agreed. poor kid must've dissociated for the most part as it became intolerable. i know from experiece how terribly traumatising it is and years down the line you end up mentally ill with cripplingly low self esteem and trust issues. he mentions how the kid won't remember that age anyways so it's justified putting them through that sort of torment as it will "serve their future". which is absolute BS. even though i barely remember anything concrete from my childhood, i still suffer now, decades later, because of what i was put through.
@kinekarma961
@kinekarma961 2 жыл бұрын
@@burningtears9882 😥
@irisarasy
@irisarasy 2 жыл бұрын
i feel sad watching Jeremiah. he deserves to have a happy childhood, not full of confusion and frustration.
@ringoinah
@ringoinah 5 жыл бұрын
Poor Mathew and his mother. It’s heartbreaking that she is not getting any governmental help anymore.
@duran905
@duran905 2 жыл бұрын
That’s just showing who the governmental system cares about!
@koalafromtomorrow5656
@koalafromtomorrow5656 2 жыл бұрын
@@duran905 the government has only ever cared about themselves
@favourjohn312
@favourjohn312 Жыл бұрын
With the gradual using of dr Oyalo herbal recommendation for autism, whom I met on KZbin, my son is totally free from Autism with his speech cleared and behavior ok as he now respond to orders and act right. Thank you doc Oyalo for your help. I am Greatful 🙏🙏 thank God kzbin.info/door/L8Tawls84nezPDtqOzOfCg
@shanelka8304
@shanelka8304 Жыл бұрын
the mother is the cause of his struggles
@weiwuxian5542
@weiwuxian5542 6 ай бұрын
@@shanelka8304go spread your hate elsewhere. She has enough issues and you blame her. How ignorant.
@deborahtawadros567
@deborahtawadros567 5 жыл бұрын
I have steam coming out of my ears. You can't fix or cure Autism. I have a 21 year old moderately Autistic son. I treated him like I did my other three children while excepting his differences. He attended mainstream school starting at first grade. He is now attending college and has a part time job. He does stem, walks in circles, and I let him because I know that is his way to release stress.
@garychap8384
@garychap8384 3 жыл бұрын
Deborah, you're a supermom! Born in the autism "dark ages" of 1972 I was an undiagnosed autistic... normal family, normal mainstream school, normal expectations but a lot of family support and understanding! ... sure, it was difficult at times but it made ALL The difference. Unfortunately ABA is designed more to help society and parents cope with the child, by changing who they are. Much like the treatments of the 60's which focused on "fixing" everyone rather than understanding them - and, by doing so, helping them understand themselves. I could hug you : ) You're amazing Deb... and I'm sure that your son, though it might take him a little longer than his peers, will become a truly spectacular adult!
@novalights4344
@novalights4344 3 жыл бұрын
My mum is like you she treats me and my brother the same but she knows he might react differently but still letting him release the stress of not be able to communicate it bothers him just as much as us so we try to communicate as such as possible
@svetavinogradova4243
@svetavinogradova4243 3 жыл бұрын
accepting or excepting? stem or stim?
@nassrakhan863
@nassrakhan863 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Deborah, how was your son's experience at mainstream school. If he had problems at school, how did you deal with them. You are an inspiration for many. Your experience could really help others.
@svetavinogradova4243
@svetavinogradova4243 3 жыл бұрын
@@nassrakhan863 Nassra, which country do you mean? A British mainstream school ( state school) will care not. They will pretend that they deal with bullying. That's all. You need to fully realise that you are on your own, and teach your child needed social skills, however difficult it will be. You must make sure that your child is well and neatly dressed, you must require him/her to keep neat, elegant, to know which friendly words to use ( even with very limited speech), minimise stimmimg to none during school hours... Nobody will really help you, the ASD diagnosis is nothing but a getaway for the authorities to do nothing, citing the difficulties of autism.
@decimdekimu1413
@decimdekimu1413 2 жыл бұрын
As a person who struggles with ASD, watching this was tough. I don't need to be fixed, nor does any autistic child/human being. We aren't broken.
@drewtyler4974
@drewtyler4974 2 жыл бұрын
This is how I feel. I have a different way of thinking, it’s not wrong or incorrect, it’s just different 😊 there’s nothing wrong with us, it’s peoples attitudes that need to change!
@gray2578
@gray2578 2 жыл бұрын
This. I’m autistic, as is my brother, and this whole thing just grossed me out. The parents are more willing to try and change who their children are than they are to just try and learn how to communicate with them.
@IcanSeeMyselfOutThanks
@IcanSeeMyselfOutThanks 2 жыл бұрын
What about the severely autistic individual who smears feces on the wall, gouges his eyes out, scratches his skin off, bites others in the environment, and runs out into busy streets?
@filipeflower
@filipeflower 2 жыл бұрын
@@IcanSeeMyselfOutThanks You've been spamming that comment too many times already. Do you wanna get reported?
@IcanSeeMyselfOutThanks
@IcanSeeMyselfOutThanks 2 жыл бұрын
@@filipeflower because I have not gotten a real answer yet. It's not spam if it's a real scenario hahaaaa
@bekahnavarro
@bekahnavarro 2 жыл бұрын
The part with Richard broke my heart. That therapist seems like he has such a huge ego. Also, how can anyone think it's ok to tell a child that they aren't allowed to be sick?
@genakrocodil4839
@genakrocodil4839 2 жыл бұрын
Keeping them seek when they can get a recovery is abuse
@zahraali7905
@zahraali7905 2 жыл бұрын
That guy’s view of how to deal with autism was devastating to watch . He was really arrogant
@judylloyd7901
@judylloyd7901 2 жыл бұрын
Because Jack was obviously using gagging as a form of manipulation. He's not the first kid to do that.
@filipeflower
@filipeflower 2 жыл бұрын
@@judylloyd7901 Are you sure you're an expert in this area?
@favourjohn312
@favourjohn312 Жыл бұрын
With the gradual using of dr Oyalo herbal recommendation for autism, whom I met on KZbin, my son is totally free from Autism with his speech cleared and behavior ok as he now respond to orders and act right. Thank you doc Oyalo for your help. I am Greatful 🙏🙏 thank God kzbin.info/door/L8Tawls84nezPDtqOzOfCg
@jessica9060
@jessica9060 2 жыл бұрын
I’m an autistic teen and I think I can say for many people. Autism doesn’t need to be ‘fixed’, yes we may see the world differently from neurotypical people but it also bring it’s amazing quirks to life. For example I may not be very good at eye contact but I have a very creative eye and often spot things no one else sees. Autistic people should just have help to find a way to cope in a neurotypical world. We shouldn’t be forced to do things like eye contact, speaking etc that we may struggle with. We shouldn’t have to mask because we’re not accepted in society, after masking my whole life I now am suffering with a lot of mental health issues from the burnout.
@filipeflower
@filipeflower 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that comment. I'm autistic too.
@husaynvlogs1366
@husaynvlogs1366 Жыл бұрын
Can anyone help me out my son is 2.2 year old and autistic he repeats very few words but doesn’t know there meaning ,doesn’t say mama or papa and he screams a lot sometimes randomly what is this behaviour how can I change this and when did he start speaking????? And start understanding commands
@shanelka8304
@shanelka8304 Жыл бұрын
the definition of autism is that this is a disorder - a problem. If someone's behaviour is not a problem - it is not autism by definition. You cannot have your cake and eat it. Either yo are autistic - have a psychiatric disorder and a priblem for life, subject to mental health act - or you are not autistic. As autisctics by definition have a problem and only such problematic mentally ill get a diagnosis.
@amandaferrareli2632
@amandaferrareli2632 11 ай бұрын
@@husaynvlogs1366 Hello... he needs help from professionals and your help to learn these things. There is a lot of helpfull content here in youtube, I know many in BR portuguese, cuz I am brazilian. But there should be in your language too. Ser calmo, paciente, dar o exemplo e entender ele o melhor possível é a base de tudo.
@axelsjolander3688
@axelsjolander3688 11 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@CherryWongPhoto
@CherryWongPhoto 3 жыл бұрын
To say there is nothing good in autism, and he took on the mission to kick it out of someone. That’s the kind of teachers I had as an ADHD girl, I’d say they are fixed with their world view in what is “correct”. They did nothing but harm in my life.
@filipeflower
@filipeflower 2 жыл бұрын
Satoshi Tajiri (the creator of Pokémon) is in fact autistic.
@bolinhong2598
@bolinhong2598 4 ай бұрын
Thank you doc for your good work It’s been months now and my child has improved completely from ASD/speech delay since using your herbs.
@user-dj4yb8ur3j
@user-dj4yb8ur3j Ай бұрын
Thank you Dr Oyalo for healing my son from autism. And I want to share about him to every one. His herbs has made my son verbal and Improve in social skills
@jaelayala7248
@jaelayala7248 4 жыл бұрын
I am a daycare teacher and I consider myself lucky to have a connection with a child in the spectrum, I cherish those moments when he hold eye contact, or holds my hand and puts his little cheek against it. 💞
@favourjohn312
@favourjohn312 Жыл бұрын
With the gradual using of dr Oyalo herbal recommendation for autism, whom I met on KZbin, my son is totally free from Autism with his speech cleared and behavior ok as he now respond to orders and act right. Thank you doc Oyalo for your help. I am Greatful 🙏🙏 thank God kzbin.info/door/L8Tawls84nezPDtqOzOfCg
@user-dj4yb8ur3j
@user-dj4yb8ur3j Ай бұрын
Thank you Dr Oyalo for healing my son from autism. And I want to share about him to every one. His herbs has made my son verbal and Improve in social skills
@haannguyen4402
@haannguyen4402 2 жыл бұрын
“I don’t appreciate autism” That’s just plain mean. As a teen girl on the spectrum, I want validation and to be treated just like a normal teen
@theythemgae9025
@theythemgae9025 2 жыл бұрын
(I'm neurodivergent) We are normal. We have existed forever. We just need different things or some patience. A lot of people in this video could do with just thinking about how they would feel if someone talked about them how they are talking about the kids. Basic empathy and kindness seems to be forgotten when the focus becomes getting a person to do what they want. Big hand waves to you. School can be sucky but the wider world has so much more diverse opportunities 💛
@skyfully8031
@skyfully8031 2 жыл бұрын
i totally agree. it’s like saying “i don’t appreciate paraplegia”
@RobertK1993
@RobertK1993 2 жыл бұрын
Neurotypicals are fascists want us to live like them we shouldn't.
@ColleenTempleart
@ColleenTempleart 2 жыл бұрын
This man is very shortsighted and cruel. There are lots of beautiful things about autism and diverse ways of thinking!
@rosiewalsh1724
@rosiewalsh1724 2 жыл бұрын
Ur just horrible I have autism they can’t help how they are if they can be themselves then they can vile horrible people they are
@anneonimous9306
@anneonimous9306 4 жыл бұрын
29:34 Does this guy honestly think that people's memories don't go back to when they were age 6? He needs a reality check. Some people's first memories go back to when they were age three or four. He's justifying pushing his own agenda on the child by saying "they won't even remember it" but they will.
@CristalianaIvor
@CristalianaIvor 4 жыл бұрын
Im an Aspergirl and I remember my I think forth birthday. Also I remember stuff from where I was three. I think the problem is to put the memories in the right time, I only know that it was that time because I attended a forest kindergarden until I was three (or turned four, Im not that sure). Also I clearly remember stuff from my (normal) kindergarden where I was until I was six. so yeah: thats just stupid to assume.
@akumaplantstudios8869
@akumaplantstudios8869 4 жыл бұрын
I certainly remember memories from when I was 3 years old. Infact, my third birthday. We had certain members of my dads familiy over. My uncle, my aunt, one of his sons and several of his daughters. One of the presents that I remember getting was a terminator figure. after doing a search online, I found it. this one right here. www.ebay.co.uk/i/283450466618?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-134428-41853-0&mkcid=2&itemid=283450466618&targetid=878077541881&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=1006966&poi=&campaignid=9441266622&mkgroupid=95287893825&rlsatarget=pla-878077541881&abcId=1140486&merchantid=113598917&gclid=Cj0KCQjw-_j1BRDkARIsAJcfmTHEEf_jrSw1qXRMo2_YYLvspEtNyAbtu_POu5xOIgbw2sG11ePK0eIaApttEALw_wcB I also have other memories of being 3 years old. I almost got struck by ball lightning while sitting playing mario on the NES. It's such a stupid idea. Just because you don't, doesn't mean others are exactly like you.
@sj4iy
@sj4iy 3 жыл бұрын
My son (on the spectrum) remembers stuff from when he was 3. These people are morons.
@AZRAEL_FURY
@AZRAEL_FURY 3 жыл бұрын
Please watch the documentary called Vaxxed, you can find it here on YT.
@sj4iy
@sj4iy 3 жыл бұрын
@@AZRAEL_FURY Yeah, I'll just believe some bullshit from a doctor who lied about his study in order to make his OWN vaccine more popular and make himself rich. When that didn't work, he made his bullshit into a religion for morons who would rather risk letting their kids die from preventable disease than POSSIBLY believe that maybe autism is genetic. I mean, I only say that because both my husband and my son are on the spectrum. Kind of an easier link to make and I didn't even have to lose a medical license to do so, either.
@millielol5253
@millielol5253 3 жыл бұрын
the 1960s testing broke my heart
@staceyroland3526
@staceyroland3526 2 жыл бұрын
Me too. My son is in ABA and our behavior tech does not treat him like that.
@Iamlurking504
@Iamlurking504 2 жыл бұрын
@@staceyroland3526 yes, instead of teaching him humanely, they do the equivalent of not letting you leave a pit of snakes.
@ednaatluxton4918
@ednaatluxton4918 2 жыл бұрын
I'm Canadian & will tell you starting aba caused my son to go from repetitive behaviours, nonverbal , lack of social skills to start self injurious behaviours. And it being forced on him in an adult care home, his self injurious behaviours are worse and he's aggressive toward staff who try to intervene. He's still nonverbal, repetitive behaviours still can't read. You can't treat every kid with 1 treatment as each child is different & you can't force them to change to conform to our world or use our communication methods. We must conform to learn theirs or they will continue to be frustrated injuring themselves and others , sensory overloads, and meltdowns. Would you force a deaf or mute person to give up sign language or braille and make them learn your communication methods? NO so stop forcing autistic people to change to conform to your standards of what is normal or right in your mind. This is who they are. Their disability or ability. You adjust and learn about them. ABA is torture.
@nicoleiovine6536
@nicoleiovine6536 2 жыл бұрын
For some children with ASD it really is more like torture… and is more damaging than doing good. The sad part is that in public school setting there is no modification based on their specific behaviors and needs.
@favourjohn312
@favourjohn312 Жыл бұрын
With the gradual using of dr Oyalo herbal recommendation for autism, whom I met on KZbin, my son is totally free from Autism with his speech cleared and behavior ok as he now respond to orders and act right. Thank you doc Oyalo for your help. I am Greatful 🙏🙏 thank God kzbin.info/door/L8Tawls84nezPDtqOzOfCg
@svetavinogradova4243
@svetavinogradova4243 Жыл бұрын
With your twisted logic, you behaved in a way that did not allow him to learn to conform to the world, while young. So your "love" turned him into a sad animal. It is all mothers. Smothers.
@filipeflower
@filipeflower Жыл бұрын
@@svetavinogradova4243 ...your point?
@ednaatluxton4918
@ednaatluxton4918 Жыл бұрын
@@svetavinogradova4243 I got my son every treatment available for autism, every diet, every med, every new therapy and I did them everyday when the therapists left & that is when his sibs started. Adult autistic people have spoken about how bad aba is & tortuous leading me to understand what happened to my son. It's banned in most countries except north America. Autistic kids and adults have sensory issues so it isn't bad behaviours. They are suffering sensory overload due to being exposed to a heightened sensory overload which is extremely stressful and painful to them. Whether audible, visual, tactile etc they need to be kept from those sensory triggers as that's what autism is. A sensory & social disability NOT bad behaviours. Even wearing certain fabrics can be painful or irritating. Bright lights or florescent lights a huge sensory problem noises are heightened as are different pitches. Learn what autism really is. Join autism cork internal summit with the world's foremost experts. This year's just happened.
@Kruemelelarab
@Kruemelelarab 5 ай бұрын
The reason why Richard doesn't recall his whole childhood is because it was such a traumatic experience that his brain wants to protect him from this memory. So he doesn't remember. That doesn't mean that the "therapy" was successful and/or necessary. It just shows how harmful and traumatic it has been and that his brain is doing everything to avoid thinking about it so he doesn't collapse. It was honestly so hard to watch.. I was bawling my eyes out while seeing Richard go through this as a child and having to watch himself getting traumatized again. ABA is cruel and should be forbidden.
@turtleking7772
@turtleking7772 6 жыл бұрын
As a person with an autism diagnosis this is painful to watch. The US uses abusive forms of ABA to the point that some of those “treatments” still haunt me. When I see another person with ASD (autism spectrum disorder) flap their hands I start to have a panic attack. Because an ABA form of “dealing” with hand movement is to tie down ones hands. It’s painful it’s scary and traumatic. I get that autism is hard to understand but we aren’t broken we don’t need to be fixed.
@jenniewoodlock659
@jenniewoodlock659 5 жыл бұрын
Autism is not something that needs "fixing" it is something that need accepting
@brucewayne3074
@brucewayne3074 5 жыл бұрын
But I've been down so long, it look like up to me! They look up to me! I got fake people showing fake love to me, straight up to my face! Straight up to my face! Yeah, I been down so long it look like up to me! They look up to me! I got fake people showing fake love to me! Straight up to my face! Straight up to my face! Yeah!
@NeuroLushia
@NeuroLushia 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed :)
@pauljerome01
@pauljerome01 3 жыл бұрын
absolutely agreed! they also should have there own little communities too! (segregation)
@temporality_
@temporality_ 3 жыл бұрын
So you're saying an 8 year old child that will throw a violent tantrum for 6 hours straight just because they didn't get to sit on the red square during class needs to just be accepted? They don't need to be taught coping mechanisms to help them with their mood swings and rigidity?
@jenniewoodlock659
@jenniewoodlock659 3 жыл бұрын
There is teaching a child that is 8 yr old throw g a tantrum but "fixing" implys a person or child with autism is broken or a problem which they aren't they just see the world from a different perspective
@MrRewardandconsent
@MrRewardandconsent 5 жыл бұрын
The blond lady working with Jeremiah is touching him inappropriately, using sugar to control him, and speaking in a high, artificial tone of voice when she says, “Good boy.” We are empathetic people and we see phony praise easily. Praise must come from the bottom of the heart. True praise does not manipulate behavior.
@levidelise7112
@levidelise7112 Жыл бұрын
I am not diagnosed with ASD, but I have a feeling I'm neurodivergent. ever since I saw the first few clips of ABA therapy I'm completely shocked. I would go absolutely insane if I had to do this for even one hour a day, and some of these kids go through this for 40 hours a week. I already feel completely overwhelmed just by watching this. Do they not care at all how this must be for the children? it's all about how hard this is for the parents, but nobody cares about how hard this is for the kids. when the mother said that she came very close to a meltdown because her child kept having meltdowns, I was like "yes? and how do you think your child is feeling?" of course it's hard for a parent when their child is having meltdowns, but their suffering isn't less important than yours just because you're the parent.
@shanelka8304
@shanelka8304 Жыл бұрын
The sooner the kids realise that many of their wants will not be satisfied, the better.
@filipeflower
@filipeflower Жыл бұрын
@@shanelka8304 That's your opinion. Don't expect everyone to agree with you.
@shanelka8304
@shanelka8304 Жыл бұрын
@@filipeflower Hush.
@filipeflower
@filipeflower Жыл бұрын
@@shanelka8304 Make me.
@bolinhong2598
@bolinhong2598 4 ай бұрын
Thank you doc for your good work It’s been months now and my child has improved completely from ASD/speech delay since using your herbs.
@Flareontoast
@Flareontoast 6 жыл бұрын
Here's a guideline from an autistic person with a bit of common sense: Teaching kids to express themselves = GOOD Teaching kids to make their own decisions = GOOD Helping kids to be healthier = GOOD Forcing kids to stop their (non-violent) stimming = BAD Forcing kids to make eye contact when it feels bad for them = BAD Touching kids without their consent = BAD Treating kids like pets = BAD Claiming autism is caused by vaccines and can be cured = BAD It's not my fault that I am disabled. I do my best to adjust to the world around me. Sometimes it doesn't work. But that's not my fault. It's not disabled people that need to be forced to changed, it's that our environments need to be made accessible and accepting of all disabilities. Of course there are lines, like when somebody injures others. But frankly. We need to be more accepting, generally. Hand flapping hurts nobody (unless somebody is hit). Fidget toys hurt nobody. Just let us cope and we will try to be the most productive people we can be.
@petercdowney
@petercdowney Жыл бұрын
Autism is a lifelong condition present from birth. That's my understanding. It's also my understanding that it's a double-edged sword. Sure, there are negative aspects, but there are positive ones too.
@sambrown7445
@sambrown7445 6 жыл бұрын
I don't personally agree with this ABA as people with disabilities are not dogs, they're human beings that should be accepted for who they are
@filipeflower
@filipeflower 2 жыл бұрын
My point exactly.
@lyliavix4366
@lyliavix4366 2 жыл бұрын
See my comments below. Unless you have personal experience of this condition you have no right to opinionate. Sorry but I would have said exactly what you said before I had my child saw them going through so many challenges.
@filipeflower
@filipeflower 2 жыл бұрын
@@lyliavix4366 Everyone has the right to opinionate and you're not a dictator. Welcome to the Internet.
@systemk9488
@systemk9488 2 жыл бұрын
@@lyliavix4366 I do have personal experience with this and fully agree that ABA is unethical.
@natesportyboy4939
@natesportyboy4939 2 жыл бұрын
@@lyliavix4366 I have experience with this "condition" and have also had ABA applied on me before (which I am now a wreck of because of it). But apparently it's not going to matter to you because "you're not like those autistic people that can't communicate their needs".
@ashmb1979
@ashmb1979 5 жыл бұрын
This breaks my heart. My son is on the autism spectrum. I sometimes wonder how he will be when he gets older. I’m a single mom raising him alone so I worry a little
@catcat8022
@catcat8022 5 жыл бұрын
I am a single mom too. My son is 2 and on the spectrum he will be starting ABA therapy soon
@cup_cakequeen_630
@cup_cakequeen_630 4 жыл бұрын
Why does this documentary break your heart love.... can you say.... a bit more about HOW you FEEL and WHY.... I must say.... I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU HAVE SAID SO FAR.... blessssssss
@enyafeckenham5730
@enyafeckenham5730 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly as an autistic kid, the best thing you could do for them is make sure they are able to communicate with you easily and without fear. If are non verbal try and use flash cards or sign language. Also please know that if they don't like being in close contact or making eye contact or showing affection in traditional ways please do not get angry. I can't speak for all autistic people but usually my my of showing care is staying around them, like a cat. Also let your kid stim if it's in a way that does not hurt themself or others. This turned out a lot longer than I wanted it to be but it's mostly things that I wish my parents did for me.
@baileydabbraccio7138
@baileydabbraccio7138 4 жыл бұрын
Research Camphill communities, I'm currently volunteering at one and they provide a safe caring environment for people with additional support needs. I've seen non verbal students with autism develop their speech or ways to communicate and students who would lie on the ground and refuse to move for hours; develop and become independent walking to different activities and buildings with no fuss. Camphill communities also provide bording so they have a safe comforting environment to live in with visits home on the weekend, which gives both them and the parents some space to relax and grow (sometimes homes are not a good environment if the child/adult presents difficult behaviour and the parents are unable to calm them)
@ems5206
@ems5206 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know if this helps, but maybe? I'm autistic and 27 years old. Except of autism type 2, I have ADHD, Borderline, depression and anxiety. My Borderline developed when I was about 13-14 years old, depression as an adult and anxiety since I was about 4-5 years. My mum raised me on her own, no job, barley an education and no help from school. I had a quite rough childhood. Didn't fit in socially, I was quite aggressive, I did the head-banging, had a hard time being separate from my mum because she was in some way my comfort and translation to the rest of the world. It IS hard having autism sometimes, and for me it was a lot more difficult as a kid since I couldn't explain what was wrong because I didn't know what it was, what upset me or why. I was just angry at myself for not being able to tell and get helped with it, because it sure bothered me feeling constantly uncomfortable. I did fight a lot with my mum, both verbally (I have never had any issues with speaking) and physically. She had a really hard time handling me the right way because she didn't understand what was wrong either. I got totalt meltdowns when picked up from school, since I couldn't handle the change of activity. I did the lining things up, I hated certain food and barely ate anything. I don't taste at food with my taste buds (so to say) but how it feels in my mouth. For example, I hate the feeling of eating bacon despite how it's made, but I really like the salty taste of it. I despite meat in general due to the texture of it. I prefer different kinds of pasta because I like the feeling of chewing it better than rice or potatoes. I have to eat food in a certain order, and tend to get stressed if I can't do that. I did a lot of repetitive things, like building tower with my LEGO, piece by piece, and then take it apart piece by piece, over and over again. I liked to sort things in different ways. I'm very sensible to touching skin to skin and rather want a shirt between my hand and the person I'm touching. When I go to sleep with my boyfriend, I often have to have a blanket between us or I will feel trapped. Speaking of sleeping - I slept a lot as a kid, but now it's the opposite. I also have a weight blanket, and that helps me to feel more comfortable sleeping and I sleep better. Now, as an adult, I live independently with my fiance and our cat in another town. My mum has done a huge amount of researching my problems and I'm completely amazed over how much she cares for me getting the right support and trying to understand me and "my world". We've talked a lot about my childhood and I hold no grudge against her for treating me wrong. How could I? She's felt really guilty and thought for a long time that she made me this way (un)intentionally. Fine, things could have been better, but overall she did her best. I still need a lot of support, I can't and probably never will be able to work full time, but with the right adjustments I'll be able to at least work at all. For the moment, I work about 1-2 days a week at a haulage, where I go with another person and helps with pick up's and deliveries of smaller amount of cargo. That kind of employment fits me perfectly, since I only have to adapt to one person. She, who drives, always asks me at every stop if I want to stay in the car or join her to the customer to pick up or deliver the orders. If the environment is quite calm I use to get out of the car, since I always need to push my limits socially. I don't necessary talk to them, but I watches their behavior and analyzes it. For me, I have to manually look people in the face when talking to them, shake hands when meeting, smile, and so on. Automatically, I want to look behind them and stand sideways, since then I can observe "normal" social behavior but not facing them. I need constant entertainment with my hands, or I will get really stressed out. It feels kind of like when you leave home and have a feeling you've forgotten something? That kind of feeling. I also have problems with touching certain things, like sharp edges, porcelain or some plastic material (like the fabric in bathing suits). I tend to do things that keeps my brain focused, like solving different kind of puzzles, handicrafts or similar things. I have a lot easier to cope with the world if I have something to go to when stressed out. I have a huge need of lone time to process impressions, and so do my fiance which have autism and ADD as well. We fit perfectly! I have just got what I call a digital whiteboard, that will help me with planning and remain a stable life. I tend to get stuck in things and totally forgets about the surrounding world. That affects absolutely everything and my every day life completely falls apart. I dislike abstract things, since I can't touch it. People use to say that I'm cold, insensitive or heartless, since I have major issues to relate to others or develop feelings for anything I haven't interacted with physically. I rarely grief, because if someone's died, I can't change it and therefore I accept it for what it is. If i explain something about something I'm good at, I have difficulties to sort out the most important things, and tend so tell everything I know about it and it sounds rehearsed xD I love playing video games, because that's a world I can control and understand. It can roughly only be in one ways and I'm in charge of everything. I also have a lot easier to be social through video games since I don't have to process anything else about another person than what they say or write. Your son will be absolutely perfect
@caitlinhope3291
@caitlinhope3291 2 жыл бұрын
Wow 🥺 kids have different needs and it's the way you help them grow... They are not robots nor can they be "fixed" it's how they are just as much as we are who we are. It is sad how people don't find the time to know the person with autism to see who they are rather then seeing it negatively.
@filipeflower
@filipeflower 2 жыл бұрын
I know, right? I happen to be autistic myself and I managed to get a job and a girlfriend. This is evidence that Autism doesn't stop you from having a life.
@tnm7379
@tnm7379 2 жыл бұрын
My son is autistic and he's 7 years old. I completely agree with your comment. He had ABA therapy and they dropped my son for unwarranted reason. I didn't feel comfortable with them from the beginning, but I do know he needs behavioral therapy, unfortunately we live in South Carolina and there just isn't enough resources for our children. I'm very worried! He's screaming in class at school, and I don't know how to find out why he's screaming. It's heartbreaking!
@haannguyen4402
@haannguyen4402 2 жыл бұрын
@@filipeflower I happen to have autism and take AP Government at my high school. I have a few close friends. Autism hasn’t stopped me from having a life, and I plan to teach high school special Ed
@filipeflower
@filipeflower 2 жыл бұрын
@@haannguyen4402 In that case, I wish you the best.🍀
@Drachenschnauze
@Drachenschnauze 2 жыл бұрын
@@tnm7379 I am autistic, i used to be a child that hid theire overwhelm in school and cried and screamed at home, from what i have heard i also bit and punched my mother. I have tips that might help. There are senses like touch, smell, light and sound. Your kid could be overly sensitive to all of them. You could get him sunglasses, a weighted blanket, noisecancelling headphones, a sensory swing, you should cut the tags out of everything he weares without resedue (it can be so scratchy it even makes me cry sometimes). Its always best to listen to autistic adults, we have been autistic children and if you can get help from an autistic adult in real life... it can't hurt. Screaming is mostly because of overstimulation, so many overlapping sounds, bright lights. People who are talking to you until you react are the worst, if your child is not doing something it has its reasons, its best to let him figure it out alone. During a meltdown(hitting/screaming/crying), howrver it my present, its best to get your child into a quiet, dark invironment with no people and not touching him, unless he wants you to. You are not doomed to be alone and probably a wonderful mother. Let me tell you: it will get better over time.
@amandamielty
@amandamielty 6 жыл бұрын
I think there is no one way to work with children on the spectrum . You have to find and do what is best and feels most right for your family.
@krystalrussell38
@krystalrussell38 4 жыл бұрын
I seen successful teachers and parents.
@ladyeye12
@ladyeye12 4 жыл бұрын
That is absolutely ridiculous. I’m a teacher and yes there is ways.
@sunnyskye1106
@sunnyskye1106 4 жыл бұрын
A M true.
@Ultrany
@Ultrany 4 жыл бұрын
Yes ! Amen to that. Every kid is different!
@foxyplayz4014
@foxyplayz4014 4 жыл бұрын
@@ladyeye12 sir can you tell me what is the way to resolve mild autism
@thelostrebelmc809
@thelostrebelmc809 2 жыл бұрын
I am autistic myself and I personally feel like autistic people have always been treated unfairly by normal people
@filipeflower
@filipeflower 2 жыл бұрын
You mean the neurotypical people?
@thelostrebelmc809
@thelostrebelmc809 2 жыл бұрын
@@filipeflower yep
@filipeflower
@filipeflower 2 жыл бұрын
@@thelostrebelmc809 I can relate to that. I happen to be Autistic myself. And yet I managed to get two jobs and a girlfriend.
@ihasmdb389
@ihasmdb389 2 жыл бұрын
that guy Gunnar needs therapy to tackle his narcissism, it's seriously damaging to him and everyone around him.
@svetavinogradova4243
@svetavinogradova4243 2 жыл бұрын
He is fine, you need some.
@jmile001
@jmile001 5 жыл бұрын
I worked as an ABA therapist for 4 years, I even became an assistant behavior analyst, but eventually left ABA because of the burn-out I felt (my first passion was Occupational Therapy but I settled for ABA at the time). It was rewarding to work with children with autism, but on the other hand I felt an internal dilemma because of some of our methods. For example self-stimulatory behaviors were something we immediately tried to eliminate, but for me it felt cruel to block them from engaging in something that was self-soothing, even though ABA considers it “non-functional” and therefore not beneficial in any way. But the reality is EVERYONE engages in some self-stimming. Tapping your foot, twirling your fingers, rocking in a chair. Just because its “non-functional” doesn’t make it abnormal. On the other hand, I could see how it could be a problem. Some kids engaged in "stim" behaviors all day long, making it difficult for them to learn or stay focused on anything else. Some would be oblivious to dangers around them. They would run away from caretakers in public places just to stim which can be extremely dangerous because they could run right into traffic, etc. so I understood why we worked on reducing it, but I thought we should teach them when they could stim and when they shouldn't, instead of trying to eliminate the behavior all together. We would also force them to engage in eye-contact, sometimes physically using our hands to block their gaze from looking anywhere else but in the eyes of whoever they’re talking to. Many parents would express their concerns about how their child “won’t even look at me” so it was something we constantly worked on, and unfortunately that was how we increased that behavior. The problem is I’ve heard how uncomfortable it can be for people with autism to make eye-contact, which made me want to avoid forcing them to do it. Only because it was a “socially significant” behavior did therapist continue to work on it and feel it was necessary. I don’t want to sound like ABA is completely terrible. I believe the pros far outweigh any cons. I saw tremendous improvement in many of the kids we worked with. We helped them learn everything under the sun: how to speak, count, read and write, bathe themselves, brush their teeth, tie their shoes, use eating utensils, color and paint and be creative , dress themselves, cross the road safely, we potty-trained them, taught them how to ASK FOR HELP and how to say NO and NO, THANK YOU (complete compliance was not the only thing we taught them despite what many ABA adversaries say), how to use their words (if possible) instead of just whining and crying and eventually resorting to aggression. We helped parents deal with tantrums until they decreased significantly or no longer occurred. We reduced aggression and self-injurious behaviors, like head-banging and self-biting. We did all this while getting slapped, kicked, scratched, hair-pulled, cussed at just because we presented simple tasks like "write your name" or "lets play ball with a friend". But we did it because we knew it was for their benefit, as well as everyone else around them. With all this being said I still think ABA has got a long way to go. There needs to be more acceptance and understanding, not just in the ABA profession but in society overall. Instead of pushing children to behave in a way that is “socially acceptable” WE also need to be more accepting of people who are neurologically different, while also doing everything possible to help them become self-sufficient and independent individuals. The scene with Richard broke my heart and further solidifies my reasons for leaving. It clearly affected him emotionally but his therapist brushes it off and says "he doesn’t remember anything from that period.” It’s a shame that a therapist believes a child doesn’t have any recollection of intensive therapy when they were 3. I worked with many therapists who had this kind of mentality even though they had good intentions. It is one of the many reasons why I decided ABA just wasn’t for me. ABA has come a long way since the 60's and 70's, but there is still a lot of room for improvement.
@Victoria-hr4uo
@Victoria-hr4uo 5 жыл бұрын
This is the best comment I've read, from someone who clearly knows what they are talking about! Thankyou for sharing your experience, as a parent of 3boys 2 with autism you've helped to give me a more balanced understanding of the therapy and its place in modern society. You very much seem to have the same feelings as I do. I think a form of ABA could be very beneficial but it needs adjusting to each childs needs and issues and there needs to be more regulation within the field. At this moment in time I can't see myself using it. This documentary shows that the person giving the therapy can really make a huge difference on whether the therapy is a positive experience for the child or a scary traumatic one. I don't like that it seems to be 'potluck' as to whether you get a kind caring considerate practitioner who only wants to see the child thrive or someone who thinks all autistic traits should be eradicated. I wasn't keen on Gunner the Swedish gentleman he had zero empathy and very unsettling views on autism, however I loved some of the therapists working at Treetops. I think the parents need more support too, I struggle watching my sons become uncomfortable when I am teaching them life skills. I worry I am pushing them too much out of their comfort zones, I struggle when I see them distressed then I stop as I feel its too uncomfortable for them. But am I failing them in giving up? Is a small amount of discomfort now, better than a lifetime of ongoing discomfort when they don't have the skills that their peers have? It's all such an unknown. All I know is I want my boys happy, healthy and to find their niche in the scary world around us, wherever that may be. Thanks again for sharing, you've helped more than you know!
@britishbirdie9113
@britishbirdie9113 5 жыл бұрын
@@guccigucci5002 I'm disgusted you used the word "retards" as it's often insulting to those with autism, I should know I have autism myself but I do agree that they might never be able to work real jobs or be a part of scoiety.
@emilymerz4905
@emilymerz4905 5 жыл бұрын
As the parent of an autistic son I can tell you from lots of experience that ABA therapy is only a success if the parent is willing to change. They must be open to essentially being trained in ABA as well. All the therapists in the world, all the millions of dollars could never guarantee success if the parents undo all of the learning at home. This will only teach manipulation, encourage Tantrums and reinforce maladaptive Behavior. Also, it is really important to be sure that you have a very good and open line of communication with the ABA program or therapist you have chosen to go with. There will be points that get very hard and uncomfortable. If you are not able or willing to talk it out, sometimes even fight it out, you're setting yourself and more importantly your child up to fail. Another piece of advice I would give is to collaborate two different styles of personality if that will add balance. We did that and it really did add a yin and yang element to our program that has worked amazingly well. As long as that communication remains constant and honest it can work really well. Our son has made more progress in 2 years then he did in 6 at the other school he was in. I really feel that within this community the last 10 years or so more often than not I am constantly battling the problem of the bigotry of low expectations. Maladaptive behaviors are just that- maladaptive. We wouldn't find them acceptable in our partners, our bosses, our employees, the list goes on ... why give an endless enablement pass to someone with autism or other disability? As long as goals keep improving and you can see data that they are continuing to succeed why not? PS, thank you for your Insight.
@ipl7853
@ipl7853 5 жыл бұрын
Adam K whats wrong with you.....i just hope that if the day comes if certain challenges comes your way,that you’ll get the help you need. If you ever have kids i just hope that you said such things.
@brittanibamrick9590
@brittanibamrick9590 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your input. I don't have much connection to autism (I don't have a child or family member with autism or something like that), but I enjoy learning about people's experiences with things like this, and I really appreciate you sharing yours.
@shehran6936
@shehran6936 2 жыл бұрын
Seeing autism as the problem means you will seek to fix it. The problem is the people that don't understand the person and their level of autism. Teaching people is hard, yes, but people on the extreme ends of the spectrum need acceptance. Once we accept we break down social barriers, once we break those barriers we allow for more integration into society for people of all walks of life.
@favourjohn312
@favourjohn312 Жыл бұрын
With the gradual using of dr Oyalo herbal recommendation for autism, whom I met on KZbin, my son is totally free from Autism with his speech cleared and behavior ok as he now respond to orders and act right. Thank you doc Oyalo for your help. I am Greatful 🙏🙏 thank God kzbin.info/door/L8Tawls84nezPDtqOzOfCg
@racoons413
@racoons413 Жыл бұрын
I agree but there isn’t levels of autism
@Hot6ixMix
@Hot6ixMix Жыл бұрын
you're right!
@shanelka8304
@shanelka8304 Жыл бұрын
the definition of autism is that this is a disorder - a problem. If someone's behaviour is not a problem - it is not autism by definition.
@bolinhong2598
@bolinhong2598 4 ай бұрын
Thank you doc for your good work It’s been months now and my child has improved completely from ASD/speech delay since using your herbs.
@CNotesNowVideos
@CNotesNowVideos 6 жыл бұрын
We love you too Reston! My 31 year old Son Joshua was born with Trisomy 21 Down Syndrome and still has problems with behavior and speech and language. He is still with my Wife and I and probably will be until we die at which time he will go to his Sisters. It is hard to be a parent of a Special Needs child no matter what age. Others don''t realize the sacrifices or the pain that the parents or the children experience. Even through all of this I still consider him to be my greatest blessing. There needs to be more compassion and empathy in this world. Merry Christmas to you and your family Chris!
@jo6445
@jo6445 2 жыл бұрын
I'm autistic and I was an ABA 'therapist'. The way ABA is done in the US currently is incredibly stressful and coercive to the child. It focuses on compliance over self determination and self worrh. A major study done by TriCare found ABA has had worse outcomes for children or children remain the same as when they began. There were no net gains and many regressions. 40 hours a week for at best nothing and at worse more anxiety & self injurious behaviors.
@favourjohn312
@favourjohn312 Жыл бұрын
I got this herbal supplement from Dr Oyalo channel and used it on my son for 4week and within the period of using it there was positive changes which really urge me to continue and I can say my son is free from autism now
@user-dj4yb8ur3j
@user-dj4yb8ur3j Ай бұрын
Thank you Dr Oyalo for healing my son from autism. And I want to share about him to every one. His herbs has made my son verbal and Improve in social skills
@bridgetclutten1703
@bridgetclutten1703 4 жыл бұрын
Whatever treatment is used, the number one requirement for the carers should be, above all, kindness, compassion and love. Without these no treatment will be effective in a good way.
@favourjohn312
@favourjohn312 Жыл бұрын
I got this herbal supplement from Dr Oyalo channel and used it on my son for 4week and within the period of using it there was positive changes which really urge me to continue and I can say my son is free from autism now
@leah003
@leah003 6 жыл бұрын
the fact that the front door opens outward at 41:45 is mind boggling
@debb4809
@debb4809 5 жыл бұрын
They do in most Scandinavian countries 😊
@maxixe3143
@maxixe3143 2 ай бұрын
It makes a lot of sense actually, I'm suprised it isn't more common. It is easier to flee during a fire if the doors open outwards.
@shawn576
@shawn576 2 ай бұрын
Pretty much all doors in USA and Canada open outward due to fire code
@suchnothing
@suchnothing 6 жыл бұрын
I can understand people's concern with trying to "change" these children, but if they can't function independently, aren't pushed to learn and try new things, and can't even communicate, what is their life going to be like? Maybe you should think of it as trying to "teach" these children, rather than trying to change them. I think the clip of that one kid said it all: won't eat? No need to teach him how to work through the sensory difficulties of food textures and colours. He can just stay stressed by food forever, get anxiety meds, and eat through a feeding tube. The other kid with eating issues was excited to eat solid foods by the end. Which would you prefer for your kid? For yourself? They explicitly said in the doc that they don't punish kids anymore in that program (which is good), how is it abusive to push their boundaries, and help them learn to communicate and do things for themselves? Working with any child always requires a balance between demanding compliance and making choices for them, and allowing them their own freedoms and choices. When they're very small the balance holds in favor of compliance, because you as their caregiver need to keep them safe and healthy, and need to teach them appropriate skills to succeed in the world. As they get older and become more independent, the balance can shift further to letting them make more of their own choices. I disagree that it's abusive to demand some compliance from children who don't yet have the skills to keep themselves safe and healthy, or to carefully push the boundaries of kids that are stuck in destructive patterns. How else will they grow and progress in life?
@heathers432
@heathers432 6 жыл бұрын
Suchnothing Very well said!
@bashisobsolete.pythonismyn6321
@bashisobsolete.pythonismyn6321 6 жыл бұрын
In fact, there is specific blood chemistry associated with ASD. kids have been normalised by adhering to a vegan wholefood diet, rich in dark leafy greens. Doctors that are up to date on ASD treatment want parents to try the dietary approach and measure its effectiveness. watch these 3 short videos: nutritionfacts.org/?fwp_search=asd&fwp_content_type=video
@suchnothing
@suchnothing 6 жыл бұрын
Botha Lissom does blood chemistry somehow rewire the neurons in your brain?
@bashisobsolete.pythonismyn6321
@bashisobsolete.pythonismyn6321 6 жыл бұрын
Suchnothing yes. diet affects neurochemistry. please read my comment from start to finish. then, click the link and watch all 3 videos.
@suchnothing
@suchnothing 6 жыл бұрын
Botha Lissom Do you believe everything you see on KZbin?
@ck5724
@ck5724 5 жыл бұрын
I feel so bad for Tobias, he is going to grow up such as stressed and anxious child and his ‘therapist’ doesn’t even care abut his wellbeing as long as he acts ‘normally’, now THAT is abuse. He is putting the parents wants of not being ‘embarrassed’ by their sons perfectly safe stimming above Tobias’s need to regulate his emotions healthily. That is where ABA crosses the line for me. The child’s health should be the priority as it is a need and the behaviour demanded of them is a want.
@barbaramoran8690
@barbaramoran8690 2 жыл бұрын
I know about well being shoved aside so someone else won’t be embarrassed.In 1960’s people unaware of sensory issues and that stimming “though may look strange is how child tries to stay calm.Taking away someone’s coping s tragedy is choosing to make them suffer.sensory integration uses sensory input child usually craves and helps him to become less sensitive.NO one should have to be miserable to be more convenient for others .to demand that from an autistic person is selfish.We don’t know how much our desire to look good costs him.If we could see thge pain we would never demand so much
@shanelka8304
@shanelka8304 Жыл бұрын
@@barbaramoran8690 In fact. lots of people spend life miserable because they are rejects. They are rejects precisely because being with them is dis.usting to others. By allowing the badly parented child to keep stimming, you create for him a lifelong misery of being a peeling , a wrapper, something to throw away - this is cruelty. The kindest thing is to introduce sha p discipline and to train rhe brat to behave and not to stim.
@filipeflower
@filipeflower Жыл бұрын
@@shanelka8304 Where's your scientific evidence to back that up?
@shanelka8304
@shanelka8304 Жыл бұрын
@@filipeflower filipko earned 3 p!
@filipeflower
@filipeflower Жыл бұрын
@@shanelka8304 WTF?
@catherinejames2734
@catherinejames2734 2 жыл бұрын
Really hate the way Gunner defines autism, he’s fierce about it and ignorant. I am high functioning autistic and so is my son. You can’t fix autism, you develop skills over time that help you in the real world so you can deal with people that are confusing or boring to be around. I now realise that how I interacted with my son was helpful in that we’re both creative types that thrive on that. So I enjoyed playing, building with blocks, drawing and creative play with him, patiently teaching him strategies. He still couldn’t interact well with other kids, as I couldn’t when I was a kid, but only because the way most kids would play just had no interest for me. Now that my son is an adult, he still prefers to be alone most of the time as too many people at once can be overwhelming . Exactly how I find it, and that’s mostly because it’s hard work , they are judgmental when you’re really different in how you see the world , it’s so different to them that they can be so rude about it, you’d rather avoid it. In being autistic you’re biggest problem can be that neurotypical types are so arrogant to be around, it’s much more fun to only interact with creative groups who are neurodiverse.
@svetavinogradova4243
@svetavinogradova4243 2 жыл бұрын
Simpler - a mother who does not know how yo make friends, cannot teach her offspring this skill. Called parenting.
@filipeflower
@filipeflower 2 жыл бұрын
@@svetavinogradova4243 Are you a parent?
@vickyjones9253
@vickyjones9253 7 ай бұрын
That therapist is abusive. You can even tell he has frustration wit the children. I would bet money on him having had dysfunctional parenting himself
@JadeDragonRaze
@JadeDragonRaze 5 жыл бұрын
I have mixed feelings. A lot of the concepts of ABA make sense, but the attitude of some of the teachers seem off. Like the guy saying he doesn't care if it stresses them today. I wouldn't want someone who doesn't care about my emotions teaching me. Everything has to be within reason. And trying to remove the stimming? Now I'm sorry but that's just not okay. Stimming should; not be stopped unless it is self-harming behavior.
@jessicalynn6285
@jessicalynn6285 4 жыл бұрын
I am an ABA therapist. I'll take your example, we blocked a client from sib, banging his head on the floor or wall every 20 seconds or so, he was stressed and angry when we would block it. The sib was his stim... Within just a few months, that child hardly exhibits one banging in a week now. And now he runs around without us constantly within arms reach, he is finally making eye contact, continuing to grow. That man is not being mean, unless you see it for yourself I guess, you don't understand fully what he is saying. Ultimately it's not being uncaring towards a child who is frustrated, upset, angry etc. He is trying to explain it to people who see and immediately want to stop treatment because a child is crying.. the goal is attainable and before being an ABA therapist I would maybe have said stop, just let the child be.. Now I've seen first-hand how it works. That man is trying to explain because people don't have the opportunity to ..."see to believe"
@IshaSoul
@IshaSoul 4 жыл бұрын
Is it not also harmful to oneself when one acts in a way that makes others reject them? It’s not black and white. Physical self harm is not the only behavior that can harm a person.
@princesspeach7496
@princesspeach7496 4 жыл бұрын
@KEPLER Then stop socializing on the internet and stop bothering people with your autistic opinions.
@trainerkai1313
@trainerkai1313 4 жыл бұрын
@@princesspeach7496 you sound stupid
@dannejoon
@dannejoon 2 жыл бұрын
@Saturn You’re the 1% and you want the rest of the world to adapt while you don’t care about fitting in? Hahaha, you’re quite the entitled child, aren’t you?
@gryffbirb
@gryffbirb 2 жыл бұрын
The guy that said that Autism has no positive values really disturbed me. Its pretty much saying that Autism has no place in the world, and as someone being more than likely on the spectrum and getting diagnosed for it, it really bothers me.
@barbaramoran8690
@barbaramoran8690 2 жыл бұрын
PEOPLE have value even if autistic..They need to have a way to develop.They need their sensory issues taken seriously and treated.That will improve behavior .they need to be helped to communicate.In 1960’s they didn’;t believe in sensory issues it was all about forcing someone to behave according to another ‘s whims. They were projects to work on not seen as people .
@svetavinogradova4243
@svetavinogradova4243 2 жыл бұрын
Get normal.
@gryffbirb
@gryffbirb 2 жыл бұрын
@@svetavinogradova4243 How about no?
@svetavinogradova4243
@svetavinogradova4243 2 жыл бұрын
@@gryffbirb If you are happy and have no problems, stay as you are - you ARE normal. The definitiona of normality is a human who can feed himself (earn for a living), have relationships and be generally OK in life.
@gryffbirb
@gryffbirb 2 жыл бұрын
@@svetavinogradova4243 I struggle but I wouldn't want to take me being Autistic away. I struggle keeping a job, but that is mainly due to being overwhelmed. Honestly, being normal isn't who I am, but I shouldn't be seen as unworthy of people's time or even not be around at all.
@landofthelivingskies3318
@landofthelivingskies3318 3 жыл бұрын
Compared to the 13 year old boy who has never ever eaten a single thing in his life except these special shakes, Jack eating the food at the end was a beautiful site to see.
@annieridesagain3867
@annieridesagain3867 3 жыл бұрын
@@belladzhavarova7253 2 totally different children . Just because they got Jack eating some not very healthy looking food , would not necessarily mean they could help every child to do so , The whole film was biased towards ABA therapy . Nice to know that it appears to have now developed to fit more recent times , but their are other methods too . The Son Rise programme approach for a good example .
@UNKNOWN-du5fc
@UNKNOWN-du5fc 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, the boy, Cameron, was 11. He’s the boy who had never eaten a solid thing in his life. The teacher said that she would help his mum prescribe anxiety medication, to try and help him to eat solid foods. I hope he ended up eating solid foods
2 жыл бұрын
I would have forced him to eat a long time ago
@astonishingpatch
@astonishingpatch 3 ай бұрын
@ There's a massive difference between refusing to eat and having a full-on food phobia. Difficulties with food and eating are common with people on the autism spectrum.
@redarp
@redarp 6 жыл бұрын
Jack is adorable.
@grnpeepers2683
@grnpeepers2683 6 жыл бұрын
redarp I thought so too! I also thought what a perfect name for him as he looks like a Jack!
@katienovota8870
@katienovota8870 6 жыл бұрын
His mom is incredible. Watching him go from sobbing to hugging her to smacking her in the head in a matter of seconds, it must be so heartbreaking.
@truth4utoda
@truth4utoda 6 жыл бұрын
redar He really is
@MsAsangel
@MsAsangel 6 жыл бұрын
Such a gorgeous little boy, and to see him eating happily at the end was awesome.
@someonewhoknows1000
@someonewhoknows1000 6 жыл бұрын
Katie Novota I love Jack but was disappointed with his mother. The 1st sign of Jack being upset at the elevator, she pulled on his hand and unlike the teachers didn't ask Jack in a positive tone but more in - "you have to because I say so" kind of way. That's just an example but she starts off at the beginning being that kind of person to impart her son's added fearfulness by the way she herself views everything in Jack's world. I've not finished the video fully yet, took a break so maybe I'm wrong but in the 1st 2/3rd's we saw/heard how many times she can't handle (whatever ???) so the school would have to do it. If she was correct, then why am I reading comments here saying in the end Jack was able to eat. Guessing but Jack started life on breast or bottle fed but it was mom who bought the groceries because Jack surely wasn't talking or capable of slapping mom then. Think about that a moment - Jack ate what mom fed him, so much so he only trusted those textures, colors, smells. She promoted his growing behavior, not helped anything positive. If I treated my children with hugs and cuddles every time they acted up and did exactly what she does, my kids would be slapping me in a few years just as Jack was taught. You give cuddles, smiles etc for GOOD behavior. VERY SAD!
@emilybrown58
@emilybrown58 2 жыл бұрын
As a mother of a 5-year-old non-verbal autistic son, I just teach and treat him like he is a normal kid. We discipline him like a normal kid. I would say he definitely improved by me constantly and patiently teaching him at home since day 1. We did not rely much on these various therapies except speech therapy as we had this fear that he won't be able to communicate . But low and behold we were wrong. He doesn't seem nonverbal at all. His diagnostician said severe autism but he can count 1-100 when he was 2, He can read stories when he was 4 , play his little piano a song from listening through youtube, potty trained at almost 4. Yeah, he screamed at the school cafeteria as it's very loud for him and changing from one activity to another is quite challenging . He prefers to be around with adults, not kids his age. I would say, I won't be worried too much. They may be slow in learning but they have innate abilities too that we cannot deny. My son has strengths and weaknesses and we will continue to love and support him like his autism is just part of him. Not something that we feared of and fix him like he is a broken, individual. We simply teach him to be independent as possible like many kids.
@filipeflower
@filipeflower 2 жыл бұрын
You do realize "normal" is a subjective term, right?
@garycooper9207
@garycooper9207 7 ай бұрын
My daughter is on Spectrum. She's 11 soon. I can say thing are easier now, age has helped her with many things. She is highly intelligent but still struggles with changes, nail cutting, hair brushing, eating certain foods. Not so bad meltdowns than before. We must remind her several times a week if she has some worries and can tell us and we can work things out together. I just wanted to tell you with time there will be big improvements. We know our own children better than anyone.
@wessexfox5197
@wessexfox5197 5 ай бұрын
@@filipeflowerI mean it literally isn’t, by definition there are things that are normal, that most people are or do, and things that aren’t normal, that most people are not or don’t do.
@filipeflower
@filipeflower 5 ай бұрын
@@wessexfox5197 Where exactly did you see that definition? By the way, why did you look for a 1 year old comment?
@blakewhitmore
@blakewhitmore 3 жыл бұрын
The way they were all comforting Richard when watching old videos and then he says he doesn't remember anything... that might be all the trauma.
@svetavinogradova4243
@svetavinogradova4243 3 жыл бұрын
No problem if it is trauma. He needed this trauma.
@eclaire1748
@eclaire1748 3 жыл бұрын
@@svetavinogradova4243 no one neede trauma
@filipeflower
@filipeflower 2 жыл бұрын
@@eclaire1748 SvetaVinogradova has been spamming a lot of anti-autism comments already in this comment section to anyone who defends Autism. He has no life.
@DosYeobos
@DosYeobos 2 жыл бұрын
Okay but without those experiences would he have had the progress that lead him to Beas high functioning as he is today? Don’t you think he would prefer to be a functioning member of society that can have friends and fit in?
@gulagbean289
@gulagbean289 Жыл бұрын
I remember in Primary School some of the other pupil with things like Autism, Aspergers and Down Syndrome etc, whenever they had meltdowns/tantrums, some of the teachers would chastise them and put them in the library to "cool down" obviously as a kid me and a lot of the other kids were confused by it and we were just told "_____ is being naughty and needs to cool off" I feel so bad for not understanding at the time.
@shanelka8304
@shanelka8304 Жыл бұрын
The teachers did right
@teebles47
@teebles47 6 жыл бұрын
This show represented ABA as the only option for intervening or achieving any kind of progress. There are other types of feeding therapies and educational approaches than just letting kids do whatever they want. Also the boy in ABA had less severe feeding issues than the boy in the other school who wouldn't eat any food and no example of a child in sensory based feeding therapy. Also, stimming does have a purpose in helping autistic people self regulate and concentrate and should not be discouraged unless it is self injurious, and then the child should be taught other coping skills, not just to stop banging their head or whatever.
@teebles47
@teebles47 Жыл бұрын
@Pateck Aaron do they make an herbal remedy to cure ableism, too?
@teebles47
@teebles47 Жыл бұрын
@Pateck Aaron 🤣
@charlottedallinson8594
@charlottedallinson8594 6 жыл бұрын
I have Autism but I am very mildly autistic. I do a lot of travelling on my own and I have improved a lot with and without my parents as I just like to be independent. I knew a boy who was 18 and he couldn't even cut his food up. His parents did everything for him without even trying to teach him just because he has autism so he is not learning how to look after himself and another boy who I knew was 23 and he had to take a lunch box everywhere with him and his own drink as he didn't like much food and drinks and his parents wouldn't give him much Independence like me who is 2 years younger. He had to be back home before it went dark whereas my parents give me the choice of what time I get home just like you would with any normal 21 year old. I think you should teach then skills and treat them like someone who doesn't have Autism at a young age so that they learn and don't have these problems when they become adults.
@Astri-ez9wx
@Astri-ez9wx Жыл бұрын
I am someone with asperger. my parents treat me like me and my bro arent different. And when I would get into university at 18 y.o.. at least I could take care of my basic needs. such as manage or make up the room. that helps my daily life till now. (almost 45 yo now).
@donnanewby3386
@donnanewby3386 4 ай бұрын
​@@Astri-ez9wx not everyone can learn, but I agree work with people's strengths whatever they are.
@user-dj4yb8ur3j
@user-dj4yb8ur3j Ай бұрын
Thank you Dr Oyalo for healing my son from autism. And I want to share about him to every one. His herbs has made my son verbal and Improve in social skills
@Lady8D
@Lady8D 5 жыл бұрын
I grew up before they changed the diagnostic criteria for autism and my early childhood was chaotic & unstable. All of these things combined means I grew up thinking autism was only the most severe cases and never looked into any further than that until recently. Now that I have been researching it, pretty much non-stop for the last 2mos I've come to realize it seems to describe me better than anything else ever has throughout my life. I've taken 2 of the tests physicians supposedly use during the diagnostic process, both of which I scored as autistic on. Considering how well the descriptions I've read fit me, regardless of whether or not the diagnosis is actually correct, I can't help but feel like the best option would be a little bit of both: teaching kids to bahave more appropriately but also allowing them to be who they are. Just like we do with neuro-typical kids. They have to be taught manners and whatnot too. As for the whole eye-contact thing...in my opinion the rest of y'all need to get over it. You feel unsure when I don't make eye-contact and you'd prefer prolonged eye-contact...I hear ya. But it makes me feel *_extreme_* discomfort, disquiet and distress to make prolonged eye-contact. Let it go and be satisfied with meeting in the middle with quick glances every now and then.
@violentwildling8924
@violentwildling8924 4 жыл бұрын
I burst into happy tears when I saw Jack eating.
@josanishere1384
@josanishere1384 2 жыл бұрын
Why?
@natesportyboy4939
@natesportyboy4939 2 жыл бұрын
After withholding objects he finds comforting, which is punishment? You think that's cute?
@oscarn7704
@oscarn7704 6 жыл бұрын
I have a huge amount of respect for the teachers who help children with autism, they are what gives me hope for this hopeless world.
@delimbiyra680
@delimbiyra680 6 жыл бұрын
Oscar N being autistic myself I can say that teachers who understand you makes the world of difference
@IamPINKIEDaniels
@IamPINKIEDaniels 6 жыл бұрын
Oscar N I've just become a specialist autism swim teacher after years of working in schools and it is the best job in the world
@IamPINKIEDaniels
@IamPINKIEDaniels 6 жыл бұрын
FireNationPhoenix not sure who you are talking too? But its NOT about CURING autism and im not 100% behind the "therapys" i see in this video but YES EVERY human being deserves ALL the help they can get to live a happy life. My brain was CRAZY until i got help for my ANXIETY DISORDER, cognitive therapy to ve exact. It helped me control my thoughts so i could choose what thoughts helped me and what didnt. Do i feel the need to change for society? No way but gosh it feels good to understand myself better and understand that while im VERY smart my brain doesnt think like others and I'm much better learning hands on instead of being "tested" For some of us, labels and therapy were the best thing to happen to us 💕💕💕
@emradford5173
@emradford5173 6 жыл бұрын
It’s not just special needs teachers. It’s the teachers who genuinely care! My son had a teacher last year - fresh out of university at a local public school (Australia). And she believed me when I said something wasn’t right! If it wasn’t for her - my son wouldn’t have a formal diagnosis. She went above and beyond for my son. Worked with him, allowed him iPad time, rewarded him, set him achievable challenges, encouraged him but never pushed him too far, sat with him when he needed to calm, let him be with her if his extra curricular classes were too much (music class being too loud etc). With her encouragement - he was even able to participate in the ‘little camp’ (one night sleepover at school), even waking when he woke and talking about games and things she wouldn’t usually know or care about, with him at 2am to make him comfortable and encourage him to stay the night. These are the teachers who we are blessed with. Her patience and understanding I could not be more grateful for 😭❤️
@sheri4673
@sheri4673 5 жыл бұрын
Of course autism needs to be cured/stopped /fixed. Autism is not an alternative personality - autism is 'damage.' When is the public going to wake up to this horrible epidemic and demand action. There is nothing normal or natural about 1 in 50 boys being diagnosed with autism. We need to wake up!
@RydiaLS83
@RydiaLS83 6 жыл бұрын
i'm 34 years old .i have type of Autism. they told me, it's on the lower end of the scale. i had alot of speech therapy and alot testing on me. i was in what we call in America. Special Ed classes. It's very tough growing up trying to make your friends understand why I act like that.. i got bully alot. :( . I can act like a normal person. but when I get so stress out. I start rocking back and froth, holding my head and start to cry. or i start hitting my head. If there is a big change in my life . I have worst panic attack because its not in my routine. sometime I keep repeating myself. its like I can't remember if i already said it or not. I try tell my friends. i can't help it. its like something in your head starts to pull on your brain, if try to fight it. it's kinda hurts when your 34 years old and some your friends, tell you its time start acting like a 34. when your mind frame is stuck in your teens years. some friends are no longer my friends. because their embarrass to be around with me because of that. its hurts. it;s hurts alot. :( I'm happy there is more awareness about Autism. and there is more teaching to other kids, what is autism and why one of there classmate acts like they are.
@khelen8829
@khelen8829 6 жыл бұрын
im sorry u went thru these experiences im also mildly autistic an pple wud be cruel to me an say i wud act strangely even if it was something i cudnt help some were jus not willing to understand me it can cause me to hav alot of anxiety at times especially with anything new pple act this way due to lack of understanding of wat we hav an tht its not a bad thing jus part of who we r an tht we understand things differently it saddens me still tht autism is treated as a taboo tht shud be hushed up
@marybrad4277
@marybrad4277 5 жыл бұрын
Have you tried any holistic approach? Like having omega 3s? Cod liver oil. Or b12 vitamins? My son at 4 years old was non verbal and had all the signs, haven't had it diagnosed yet, there is a huge waiting list. But he has improved, he has his meltdowns, but he is not covering his ears, he is more talkative,more eye contact. I have given him these two things and he seems to be improving
@babyroses12
@babyroses12 4 жыл бұрын
@paul8kangas as a black grandma, who was vaccinated, children vaccinated, grandkids vaccinated,we are all very healthy. They dont know what causes autism, so you have lacked onto fake info. Dont fight medical science,, we dont need the dark ages, if you are ill or have an infection, you will die without antibiotics quickly. The best to you and your child, love💜
@marklowe7431
@marklowe7431 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting your story. My son is autistic and he is 4 now. As a parent it's really good to hear from people like yourself who know what it's all about and what we can do to help. I worry a great deal about my son being bullied. Your explanation is extremely helpful to us all. Be yourself, be happy and never let people get you down.
@kimberlyhovis5864
@kimberlyhovis5864 4 жыл бұрын
I'm very sorry to hear that about your friends, and that you've been judged for something that you have absolutely no control over. I hope that you are doing well, and that you have some friends who are understanding. Good luck and God bless.
@anastasiabeaverhausen8652
@anastasiabeaverhausen8652 3 жыл бұрын
For Jack's Mum - I'm 51 years old, have Asperger's, and have never in my life eaten untoasted bread. Or peanut butter. Or a sandwich on just regular loaf bread. Or beans of any kind. Or shellfish. Or.......etc. There are a whole list of things that I won't even entertain - ALL of these have to do with the texture of the foods. I can't possibly imagine eating these things, and will spontaneously vomit just imagining doing it. The irony is that I was an Executive Chef for the majority of my career!!! (I learned how things should taste, replicate it, and spit it out.) 😂 There is hope that his diet will become more varied, but is that the hill you're going to die on? As long as he's not suffering from nutritional deficiencies, I'd put my eggs in the 'communication' basket. Sending love and patience. 💞💕💞 (My youngest child {22M} is also high-functioning. We share a few of the same 'triggers'... THAT'S super fun. 🙄 People chewing audibly gives me a fight-or-flight response; I will absolutely ask them to stop. If they don't comply, one of us is leaving. We can do things the easy way or the hard way, and knowing my own limitations as well as those of my child is incredibly important for reducing anxiety. And on the positive side? My children have impeccable table manners!!! 😂
@NickanM
@NickanM 3 жыл бұрын
I'm 50, I have ADD, and I hate soft, spongy breads, I gag on any meat that isn't chicken and many other things. As you say; _It's the frigging TEXTURE!_ And people refuse to understand that. I do eat a balanced diet, but on my conditions. Moving out from my parents being on my own was the best thing ever, I could eat what I wanted. I can't tolerate clothes that aren't made of cotton and I always cutting the washing labels away, it disturbs me a lot, certain sounds drives me crazy, etc. etc..... To read that you were a chef (!) is quite funny, my jaw dropped a little bit there. Respect!
@anastasiabeaverhausen8652
@anastasiabeaverhausen8652 3 жыл бұрын
@@NickanM I think I just fell in love with you!!! When my last 'baby' left for College we both held it together until he said 'Mom, don't forget to turn your clothes right side out before you leave the house - I won't be able to remind you every time..........' as a way to say 'Goodbye for now'. THEN I started crying! LMAO!!! 😂 I use Melba Toast in lieu of (hate to even type the words!!!) 'Wonder Bread'. (Ummmmmm Yeahhhhhhhhh. As in 'I WONDER how you don't vomit just THINKING about actually putting this in your mouth?!) When I was little my Dad thought he could boss me into eating everything the way he did my older (by a decade) siblings. That was a hard 'No' from this odd little toddler; technically it was a 'F*¢K No!' because I only had teenagers to socialize with. 😂 The day we found an article on 'Misophonia' was one of the best days of my life - my husband came to me saying 'There's a word for why nobody can eat cereal around you!' (I was thinking of 'Homicidal'. It was a different word.) 😅 I'm so happy to have found the only other sane person on the planet..... 💞🥰💝
@novalights4344
@novalights4344 3 жыл бұрын
I'm just as picky as you girl lol
@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329
@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329 2 жыл бұрын
I’m 24 years old this year and I’ve have got Asperger syndrome and it’s been with me since I was diagnosed with it aged 7 in 2004
@dannejoon
@dannejoon 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, throw your insecurities on others 🤌
@ameliashostak4764
@ameliashostak4764 5 жыл бұрын
i am so happy to see jack eating at the end, wow didn't think he would do it. hearing the teacher at other school saying the child will end up tube fed...idk maybe be willing to give abd a try....great job little jack.
@kinekarma961
@kinekarma961 2 жыл бұрын
You should have read the comments in one of the fb groups Im in, from autistic people who learned to eat this way. They tell you a different story.
@ameliashostak4764
@ameliashostak4764 Жыл бұрын
@Pateck Aaron I REALLY hope you're trolling right now and not actually trying to convince people that some stupid herbal supplements "freed your son from autism!" As a parent of an autistic child I cannot begin to tell you how hurtful your comment has been to me! It's disgusting and just plain ignorant and you should be ashamed!
@FridayFrida
@FridayFrida 6 жыл бұрын
Horrible to watch, I have Aspergers and I would have been crushed if anyone treated me that way. That Swedish boy might one day discover that he doesn't know who he is.... Im Swedish got my diagnosis at 30 and now six years later I am still trying to find out who is me and what is fake, just from society pressure.
@becdonaldson5536
@becdonaldson5536 6 жыл бұрын
I have autism and adhd. And I went to a normal school And I love watching videos like. These.
@malamurthy2935
@malamurthy2935 5 жыл бұрын
Hi how did it happened? Even my 3 years old son has same problem. No attention at all.. how did u overcome this problem.? Please reply......
@mayuripatel8894
@mayuripatel8894 3 жыл бұрын
Pls rply
@MyWorld-kx5tu
@MyWorld-kx5tu 3 жыл бұрын
@@malamurthy2935 hi can you explain more. What problem is it ?????
@nassrakhan863
@nassrakhan863 3 жыл бұрын
My heart breaks for the mother of a 14 year old child, who has no funding to access help. She is doing whatever she can on her own. This makes me very sad. I hope she finds some support.
@magreetendason4223
@magreetendason4223 3 жыл бұрын
I know a doctor that can also help you get rid of it permanently he also save my life...Kindly send me your WhatsApp number or email address so I can forward it to the doctor
@anitadhm_
@anitadhm_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@magreetendason4223 you can’t get rid of autism
@filipeflower
@filipeflower 2 жыл бұрын
@@magreetendason4223 Nice try, scammer.
@Iamlurking504
@Iamlurking504 2 жыл бұрын
@@magreetendason4223 It's called torturing the child into masked their real self so that means you support inhumane torture of people you don't like? You'd be cancelled by the antivaxx Facebook group you're a part of.
@C.kirk1287
@C.kirk1287 2 жыл бұрын
Patience you keep fighting for your baby, I’m praying for you and Matthew and I pray to God your able to get your son the help he DESERVES!
@favourjohn312
@favourjohn312 Жыл бұрын
I got this herbal supplement from Dr Oyalo channel and used it on my son for 4week and within the period of using it there was positive changes which really urge me to continue and I can say my son is free from autism now
@BrookeSingleton
@BrookeSingleton 6 жыл бұрын
37:50 mark. And there is this woman's problem. Her child hit her, she hugged him, he hit her again, she kissed his hand, kissed the hand he hit her with. He would at least START understanding that hitting is not ok if she had stopped, taken his hand, looked him in the eye and said "No! No hitting mommy!" every. single. time. If you say "oh, but he upset and needed comfort" then the message you send him is "if you get upset and hitting helps you feel better, then it's ok to hit".
@BecomeOneWithNature
@BecomeOneWithNature 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed! You can't think that just because the child has Autism that they can't be punished like any other child. My son has Autism and he tried to hit me when he got angry, so I grabbed him and told me directly "you do not hit me" he understood what I was saying because he hasn't done it since. Some parents and teachers are way too soft with these kids and sometimes that is the reason these kids will lash out and act the way they do.
@terilward59
@terilward59 5 жыл бұрын
@@BecomeOneWithNature my sisters sons have autism, unfortunately she never told them no and at adolecence one got very violent with family members. She won't say a thing to him. We don't see her anymore. It breaks my heart cause I am a teacher of the disabled..........so sad cause no one wants to be around them. Everyone suffers when their out of control.
@ashlieleavelle
@ashlieleavelle 5 жыл бұрын
Yes! I have worked with special needs children. Autistic or not, they have to learn not to hit. Too many people are too lax and excuse the violence in their children who are autistic. You have to be firm and let them know that hitting is not acceptable.
@asideofaioli4630
@asideofaioli4630 5 жыл бұрын
@@emilycomeau4662 Every child with autism is different. That's why it's a spectrum disorder.
@xiphocostal
@xiphocostal 4 жыл бұрын
This woman's problem is she keeps grabbing the kid and he doesn't want to be grabbed. Well that and she's a meth head.
@janfilbeck6376
@janfilbeck6376 6 жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm a Certified Developmental Disabilities RN who works in a large school for special needs kids. Imagine being a typical 5 year old boy just starting kindergarten. You've never had to sit still, be quiet, and pay attention for "long" periods of time but that's what the teacher demands. Learning not to bounce off the walls doesn't "change your soul". This is not stereotyping but sound science; Boys learn differently than girls, who by nature, tend to have more socially acceptable behaviors. In a way autism is the amped up version of boy behavior. Educators not only teach the Three R's, they must ready children for the adult world. And changing innate behaviors is an important key to achieving this in both genders.
@krisw5318
@krisw5318 6 жыл бұрын
As an autistic/Asperger's mother of an autistic/Asperger's son, I disagree with your characterization of autism as "the amped up version of boy behavior". Autism is characterized by noticeable differences in social learning as well as, often, differences in sensory processing. It also is not necessarily characterized by hyperactivity. (I myself, though I am not fond of sitting still for long periods of time, can do so when necessary or when focused on a particularly interesting book. My son, likewise, can sit when necessary. When he was 5, he couldn't sit for a 5-minute story in Sunday School, but he could sit for half an hour or more at home, where he was calm and secure, to listen to My Pet Rabbit or another favorite book. Requiring a young child to follow a long series of rapidly-given commands does not prepare a child for the adult world. A 5-year-old child has years to learn to sit still - or to decide on a career that won't require much of that. A child is readied for the adult world most adults experience not by obeying orders to match various objects, but by participating in the adult world. Once a child is old enough and mature enough, the child can help with grocery shopping and other errands, or simply make their own bed. They can help with a wide variety of household chores, and volunteer at a local homeless shelter. Children can learn academics - and can have a say, even at an early age, on which subjects they would like to study (my son has chosen agriculture & horticulture as his "major", and biology as his "minor" (we both helped decide the other subjects). Most importantly, he has learned that adults are interesting people who may have interesting knowledge to share and who may be interested in discussing interesting topics with him. Had he grown up around adults whose interactions with him consisted of inanities like "can you match", or "good boy", or trying to force him to respond to greetings with a "hi" or "hello" rather than by yelling "no", I sincerely doubt that that would be the case.
@shananagans5
@shananagans5 6 жыл бұрын
Kristin: I think Jan is more or less making the point that we change all children as we mold them into civilized adults. I am a forensic psychologist & we kinda joke that toddlers are mini barbarians that you must mold into human adults. This is true for all children, boys more so than girls but all children need to be taught to / learn how to, get along with others, sit still in school, and just generally act appropriately. This is true for everyone & it doesn't change who you are. These parents that want to raise autistic children without making an effort to teach them to adapt to mainstream society aren't doing their children any favors. Of course you can't be cruel but the more these kids are worked with, the more their brain can adapt, the higher their global functioning will be & that will lead to an easier life. Of course, everything is both nature & nurture. We should embrace the nature part but we should also do all we can on the nurture side to help them function within mainstream society.
@krisw5318
@krisw5318 6 жыл бұрын
Shananagans5, I think your interpretation of Jan's comment is probably accurate. You're certainly correct that all children need to learn how to get along with others and act appropriately (though obviously what entails "appropriate behavior" varies by family, community, and culture). I disagree that 5-year-old children need to learn how to sit still in school for long periods of time; most aren't ready for that. They should be spending most of their time playing and engaged in hands-on activities, with only short periods of mandatory sitting (during story time, for example, or while coloring or practicing writing). As they get older, they can gradually be expected to spend more time sitting quietly. ABA, as shown in the video, seems to be a systematic practice of teaching the child that the only thing that matters is obeying commands. Many of the teachers seemed very quick to correct any behavior other than instant compliance. They "rewarded" the children with inane comments like "good boy" and pieces of junk food - while moving on to the next thing so quickly that the children had very little opportunity to actually process what was happening, and no opportunity to engage in any learning activity on any meaningful level. Yet, one of the positive traits shared by many autistic people is an enhanced ability to focus on things of interest. A good teacher tries to find what motivates an individual child - and use that motivator to engage the child. As one example, what if a child really likes trains? Why not teach the child to match locomotives, or box cars, or cars of a certain color - and teach them the relevant vocabulary (in spoken or written words, signs, or picture cards - whatever would enhance communication for that child). If you're teaching the child information relevant to the child's interests, you will also be teaching the child that interacting with people can be a positive experience - which can only help a child to learn how to interact appropriately with other people. If, on the other hand, the adult engages children by requiring the child to comply with the adult's choice of activity, and harshly corrects the child when the child doesn't immediately comply, that child will learn that "might makes right" and that bullying is condoned by the adults - hardly the mindset of civilized adults. However, ABA probably does "work". If you spend enough time forcing a child to comply with your commands, yes, that child will learn to comply with those commands. In my opinion, teaching a child compliance in a way that will almost certainly lead to anxiety and low self-esteem, and possibly depression and PTSD as well, is not appropriate - and it definitely constitutes cruelty. Children do not learn only when forced to comply with commands. They, like adults, learn best when they feel safe and secure, and when they are interested in what they're learning. Therefore, a good teacher uses the child's preferred topics (or activities) as both a motivator and as a bridge to teach the child what the teacher wants the child to learn. A good teacher models appropriate behavior (and certainly does not grab things from a child). A good teacher corrects the child for behavior that could harm others or damage property - in an age-appropriate way (such as a calm "no" and redirection for a very young child, and a "no" followed by a developmentally-appropriate explanation for an older, more verbal child) - not for expressing the child's feelings in a way that harms no-one.
@janfilbeck6376
@janfilbeck6376 6 жыл бұрын
Kristin West and shananagans5: thank you for your responses to my comment. I appreciate differing points of view. I am also a mother of an adult son with Asperger's and grandmother of an 8 year old girl with Asperger's, ADHD, and ODD. My son is now a college professor in a field that he loves. He always marched to a different drummer and I told him from an early age to follow his dreams. This has included doing countless hours of volunteer work from spending spring breaks helping build orphanages and assisting AIDs patients to being a Peace Corps worker in West Africa. You sound like a great and knowledgeable mother Kristin! Best of luck to your family!
@barbaramoran8690
@barbaramoran8690 2 жыл бұрын
The school system is inhumane.It drives normal kids crazy.More movement needs to be engineered into day.It would help if kids could circle the room about 3 times an hour once ALL of them at pre set times to stretch their legs.Prolonged sitting is unhealthy as smoking. Science has proved that. School culture should be changed.Kids in Sweden or Norway have shorter school days and no homework and the kids have better test scores and learn more basic skills such as literacy science and math.They have more family time and richer lives.AND I DON’T THIINK THEY ARE COUCH POTATOES.THEY ARE ACTIVE AND BUSY.THEY ARE PHYSICALLY FIT American kids have hours cooped up on busses a long school day and lots of homework and they are tired.It feels like slave labor. School sucked when I was there.
@alextait7771
@alextait7771 2 жыл бұрын
Seeing that little boy crying like that at the table with the food was absolutely heartbreaking 💔
@favourjohn312
@favourjohn312 Жыл бұрын
I got this herbal supplement from Dr Oyalo channel and used it on my son for 4week and within the period of using it there was positive changes which really urge me to continue and I can say my son is free from autism now
@gabriellabalfour-allen2052
@gabriellabalfour-allen2052 4 жыл бұрын
My brother has autism and extreme behaviour and although he is extremely hard to live with I love him for him and I wouldn't change him for the world this is a cruel way of effectively changing these poor children into vulnerable robots that will change there personality and make them even more vulnerable because they will do anything you tell them to
@favourjohn312
@favourjohn312 Жыл бұрын
Doc Oyalo can reverse autism with herbs and it’s completely perfect. I used it for my son and so far his speech is verbal and social skill is normal and he can now also respond to everything positively on his own. I’m so glad
@bluepinata
@bluepinata 6 жыл бұрын
This really split my opinion. On the one hand, you hear the woman and her son with Asperger's and think, she's right, it's unfair to "condition" a human being to preform behaviors that make life more convenient, even at the cost of their identity. On the other hand, you see the change in the boy at the end...he's EATING. He couldn't eat solid food before, and now he can eat. He could have gone his whole life not being able to eat, he could have been given a tube feeder as was suggested for a different boy earlier in the doc. Just from the perspectives offered in this doc, it's hard to say whether this is all bad or all good. It seems like it depends on the case and how it is used. I hope that parents of children affected by autism are able to put themselves aside and truly think of how what they choose to do will affect their children, whether they are truly thinking of their child's best interest or, on the contrary, wanting their child to be some version of "normal" that isn't fair or realistic to pursue. I have so much respect for the parents who sacrifice so much and still love these children unconditionally, and the children are also inspiring for putting up with so much, when they are just confused and stressed by communication demands that they don't understand.
@peacenow42
@peacenow42 6 жыл бұрын
WELL SAID.
@Peacekeeper88
@Peacekeeper88 6 жыл бұрын
He might be eating, sure, but if someone slapped you enough times because you didn't clean your room as a child, in the end you'd cave. But what about the effects? It's a logical extreme, but I feel it's applicable to the situation, mainly because with my aspergers, the effect of an upbringing much like the ABA treatment, the damage is severe. There are many things in my life that I will never be able to fully enjoy again because of it. What if we started trying to "condition" those with Down's Syndrome? I often compare myself a lot to that, since they are remarkable and unique people, with an abundance of happiness. And it's also - just like autism NOT a disease. You can not condition, nor cure it. And I wouldn't want anyone to try. I didn't eat 90% of foods put before me as a child. I grew out of it at age 9 on my own.
@bluepinata
@bluepinata 6 жыл бұрын
Peacekeeper88 Thank you for your firsthand perspective. I'm sorry that you went through that. :( You definitely gave me some context of how to think about this...
@krisw5318
@krisw5318 6 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, you can best prepare children for people's intolerance not be treating them with intolerance but by treating them with respect, compassion, and understanding. Children who grow up with secure attachments to their parents or guardians, and who feel safe and secure in other situations as well, are those who are likely to grow into confident, secure adults who can deal with other people's poor behavior and attitudes. Subjecting a child to psychological torture, which is what some of the clips in the video demonstrated (not all; some did demonstrate appropriate interactions and good teaching) has a strong potential to traumatize a child. Such a child is likely to grow up insecure and with limited self esteem - in other words, into a child who is most adversely affected by intolerant and inappropriate treatment.
@billierae726
@billierae726 6 жыл бұрын
The solution, therefore, is to find each child a method tailored to their individual personalities and cases, not a one-size-fits-all solution.
@zeldagamelover24
@zeldagamelover24 2 жыл бұрын
2:59, made me feel sick that it was ok back then and still is now sometimes, to treat disabled kids like that. So many do this but worse. Like scolding is gonna get the child to do exactly what you want when you want it.
@annabellaaah87
@annabellaaah87 2 жыл бұрын
Literally just brought tears to my eyes I couldn't imagine the emotions they felt in those moments. So confused.
@svetavinogradova4243
@svetavinogradova4243 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it will.
@filipeflower
@filipeflower 2 жыл бұрын
@@svetavinogradova4243 Prove it.
@favourjohn312
@favourjohn312 Жыл бұрын
I got this herbal supplement from Dr Oyalo channel and used it on my son for 4week and within the period of using it there was positive changes which really urge me to continue and I can say my son is free from autism now
@filipeflower
@filipeflower Жыл бұрын
@@favourjohn312 Stop spamming!
@michawill6599
@michawill6599 4 жыл бұрын
Pray for that mum Patience and Matthew that she gets what she needs for her son.
@Iamlurking504
@Iamlurking504 2 жыл бұрын
Screw ABA, help them and support them instead of torturing them.
@-3lory
@-3lory 2 жыл бұрын
I used classical music to sleep....learned sign language and various other methods thank you and God Bless everyone involved...Bravo with production quality
@emradford5173
@emradford5173 6 жыл бұрын
As an Autism parent - I don’t agree with ABA. Especially against those who ‘specialise’ in it. The punishments used when they don’t get it right make me sick to watch (in my own experience with ‘aba specialists’ with my own and my friends’ Autistic children). And food should not be used for every reward.
@Flareontoast
@Flareontoast 6 жыл бұрын
Em Radford thank you!
@GhostLightPhilosophy
@GhostLightPhilosophy 4 жыл бұрын
Em Radford Finally someone who speaks the truth!
@Diego_Borges
@Diego_Borges 4 жыл бұрын
@@GhostLightPhilosophy So the others are lying? There's no truth do prove anything. It's up to their parents to choose let the children as it is or make an effort to teach them something. There is no punishment in the program today. This is past and nowadays it shouldn't be compared.
@GhostLightPhilosophy
@GhostLightPhilosophy 4 жыл бұрын
Diego Borges So defensive yet no one made a personal attack on you
@toro-ru7321
@toro-ru7321 4 жыл бұрын
Em Radford I am not an aba therapist but I've seen them working with the autistic kids. That really made me crazy. They were not teaching them, they were training them like animals. Tamers, not teachers(.
@mamamackenziesnurturingnat4969
@mamamackenziesnurturingnat4969 4 жыл бұрын
It disgusted me watching the two blondes stand there while the little boy had a melt down. You obviously triggered a meltdown it’s horrid to inflict this on children.
@AZRAEL_FURY
@AZRAEL_FURY 3 жыл бұрын
Please watch the documentary called Vaxxed, you can find it here on YT.
@filipeflower
@filipeflower 2 жыл бұрын
@@AZRAEL_FURY Why do you keep spamming that comment ?
@kathywilliams5042
@kathywilliams5042 4 жыл бұрын
I do NOT agree with that program "school"! I have a grandson who was diagnosed with autism he is very bright,kind, loving and much more!
@aries8119
@aries8119 3 жыл бұрын
I agree! ABA therapy is very wrong and abusive. Lots of autistic people have been left with trauma from it. (For anyone upset, saying that not all ABA is bad, I really encourage you to look at autistic perspectives. ABA at its root is not good.)
@svetavinogradova4243
@svetavinogradova4243 3 жыл бұрын
@@aries8119 ABA is brilliant!
@aries8119
@aries8119 3 жыл бұрын
@@svetavinogradova4243 If you would like a masterlist of resources on why ABA is wrong (including perspectives from autistic people and past ABA therapists), here it is:neurowonderful.tumblr.com/post/135286731936/2015-autism-aba-resource-masterpost I don't at all disagree with helping autistic children through therapy. But ABA is, at its core, wrong. It suppresses all autistic traits, it focuses on acting "normal" and it has left many autistic people with PTSD. Common punishments for autistic children include taking away their favourite things (eg favourite book series, toys or a tablet), not letting them eat until they finish their tasks, and in particularly harmful cases, spraying a child's mouth with vinegar or something equally horrible. ABA is abusive and wrong and should not be taught. Why do you think the very title of this video labels it as "controversial"? I urge you, as an autistic person, please do not support ABA. Please don't let any of your loved ones be taken to ABA. The risk is too great.
@aries8119
@aries8119 3 жыл бұрын
@@svetavinogradova4243 I wish you hadn't said that to me. I wish I didn't have to hear what you have to say about how people like me act in our day to day lives. Yeah, kids have to obey their parents. But I hope most parents don't spray their kid's mouth with vinegar. I hope most parents don't force their hands into sticky glue. I hope most parents don't use electrical shock therapy - an evil practice many autistic people have been subjected to. I hope that you aren't conflating respect with fear, but I think you are. I don't want to argue with you, not when you think the way I naturally think and talk and move is wrong. But I do know that ABA is a major cause of PTSD, trauma, depression and anxiety. And it doesn't work. All it does is teaches autistic people to hate themselves. Intrinsically, we're different, and no amount of restrictive therapy or repetitive teaching can make us like everyone else. Luckily, the world is moving towards acceptance of autistic people. I hope you will too.
@aries8119
@aries8119 3 жыл бұрын
@@svetavinogradova4243 Listen, I'm going to stop talking to you. It's really cruel to tell someone that no one in the world would care if they died apart from their parents. Please don't talk to people like that. I'm perfectly happy as I am. I live a good life. I have friends and family who love me :) So don't worry. I'm autistic and I'm doing okay. Please don't reply. Your comments really hurt me.
@liampenny9077
@liampenny9077 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to give these people my own type of ABA and see how they 'perform'. Mabey that would change their mind on how their therapy works. Such an archaic way of thinking.
@svetavinogradova4243
@svetavinogradova4243 2 жыл бұрын
This therapy makes oeople better - so they don't grow up into loners who turn their backs on people even on avatars.
@filipeflower
@filipeflower 2 жыл бұрын
@@svetavinogradova4243 As if you can somehow prove that 100%. Spare the propaganda talk.
@richardcohen2122
@richardcohen2122 4 жыл бұрын
I feel so bad for the single mom
@terriehumphries6028
@terriehumphries6028 6 жыл бұрын
When your child is aggressive, fighting, slapping biting and not staying put, you do what you can to help them. I did ABA with my son long enough to get him to talk and eat. We did not keep it up. I was exhausted. This to me is an independant choice of a parent. They need to do what is best for their child.
@robertg9153
@robertg9153 6 жыл бұрын
Parents, please look to Autistic adults for advice! The parent doesn't always know what's best for the child when the parent isn't Autistic and so much stigma and misinformation going around.
@eilidhmccrone5161
@eilidhmccrone5161 6 жыл бұрын
I have 5 people in my class with Autism and they are way smarter than me one with very sever Autism and is the smarties of the class
@theducksanctuary951
@theducksanctuary951 5 жыл бұрын
Eilidh Mccrone 😍 I’m sure you are very smart, you came on here and you watched the show, & commented, good for you. God bless & stay safe. ✌️👏💓🌟
@leannemo7382
@leannemo7382 5 жыл бұрын
It's probably best to look to neurologists with valuable experience with the disorder. If I want to treat a child's asthma, I can ask an asthmatic's opinion, but a pulmonary specialist (or allergist) is the best course of action. So while personal opinions are great, two or more opinions from leading specialists are critical, because ever autistic child is different. No cookie-cutter kids. :)
@KitKat_293
@KitKat_293 4 жыл бұрын
I do think that more intensive therapy like aba is needed to work on specific behaviors you can’t compromise with. Such as when a child is harming themselves and others, to learn one form of communication, and to eat enough food groups to not be nutrient deficient. Things like that are so urgent for their health and safety and for others safety.
@velvetrebellion
@velvetrebellion 2 жыл бұрын
it absolutly broke my heart when the teenage boy said "i didnt realise i was that sick". i worked with teenager on the spectrum especially Asperger's. i dont think its right to condition them. its absolutly cruel to try and change who they are ...
@genakrocodil4839
@genakrocodil4839 2 жыл бұрын
It is right to change them , because as they are they are unpleasnat, unneeded and will be rejected amd ejected .
@filipeflower
@filipeflower 2 жыл бұрын
@@genakrocodil4839 You tell that to the Autistic people who succeed in their lives. Your ignorance is clear as day.
@gaolen
@gaolen 2 жыл бұрын
@@genakrocodil4839 i am someone with autism, and you are the reason why i cant function as well as i can. Under the right conditiones i would have been a little strange maybe, but more or less fine with a normal stable job etc. But because of people like you who bully and accuse i and many others develop depression and anxiety disorders that are way more intrusive than autism in itself. well done
@filipeflower
@filipeflower 2 жыл бұрын
@@gaolen That Gena Krocodil user has been doing nothing but spamming hate against Autistic people. That person has no life.
@favourjohn312
@favourjohn312 Жыл бұрын
I got this herbal supplement from Dr Oyalo channel and used it on my son for 4week and within the period of using it there was positive changes which really urge me to continue and I can say my son is free from autism now
@smileylauren603
@smileylauren603 5 жыл бұрын
the analogy Gunnar makes between autism and the hospital analogy at 46:55 was most disturbing to me... the phrase "they fix you" implying that people with autism are better when "fixed"
@dainternetkatze3480
@dainternetkatze3480 3 жыл бұрын
A car crash is not a fitting anology to autism
@filipeflower
@filipeflower 2 жыл бұрын
@@SWEATYINPUBS It isn't. You're mis-informed.
@souborslov8451
@souborslov8451 2 жыл бұрын
I was ready to hear different approaches of different therapists until that man with ABA appeared. “I don’t appreciate autism” what a disgusting thing to say. Maybe some ways and some therapists can be helpful but definitely not that one. There is so much proof that things we live through even as babies and toddlers leave their mark and he’s saying it’s okay because the child “won’t remember”. Poor little Tobias is gonna have so much trauma in the future just like Richard who was already “fixed”
@megangreen-hurst8407
@megangreen-hurst8407 3 жыл бұрын
I am an autistc adult and this angers and upsets me you cant change anyone ( child or adult) to fit into society,society needs to chage to fit to them!!! this is cruel and de humanising.
@magreetendason4223
@magreetendason4223 3 жыл бұрын
I know a doctor that can also help you get rid of it permanently he also save my life...Kindly send me your WhatsApp number or email address so I can forward it to the doctor l
@cafecompsico
@cafecompsico Жыл бұрын
As an autistic person and ABA therapist myself, what the HECK are those people calling "therapy"? Being able to make the kid do what you WANT? How sick is that phrase???
@svetavinogradova4243
@svetavinogradova4243 Жыл бұрын
Kids MUST do as tood by adults, this is a necessary skill - to OBEY.
@filipeflower
@filipeflower Жыл бұрын
@@svetavinogradova4243 If an adult tells you to bend over so you can be raped, would you feel okay with that?
@lama-rask
@lama-rask 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this ❤️
@BibiCameron
@BibiCameron 2 жыл бұрын
I read many comments here from parents with kids in the spectrum and it sad they think so poorly from their own kids. what you can expect from a kid that has be educated by a person who think they can’t do anything or that leave their kids education only in the hands of the academy ? My son is autistic, is challenging but Hey !!! autism is not a tragedy . Start by trying to make your kids happy and find the things that make them happy and encourage them to do more of what makes them happy, be worried about how to communicate or engage with them . If YOU CAN’T understand your kid, try hard is your problem not your kid problem . BE CREATIVE and worry about their education but not the traditional education you might think. Some autistic minds are brilliant and they are more clever than ordinary people so they learn and invent things by themselves. Autism have helped drive evolution. Read about autism, study autism and check what other amazing autistic minds says in order to be able to help your little one . Yes is hard !! Yea you need time you might be thinking use to lay down in bed . Neuroatypicals such as Issac Newton, Thomas Alba Edison, Darwin , Bill Gates or Steve Jobs to name a few they changed our world so let’s stop thinking because they behave, think or struggle to do little tasks they can’t do big things . Embrace autism and get to know what it is before talking about your poor expectations about them .
@filipeflower
@filipeflower 2 жыл бұрын
Well said. 👍🏻
@favourjohn312
@favourjohn312 Жыл бұрын
I got this herbal supplement from Dr Oyalo channel and used it on my son for 4week and within the period of using it there was positive changes which really urge me to continue and I can say my son is free from autism now
@diabeater1395
@diabeater1395 2 жыл бұрын
this feels like child abuse that you pay money for >>>>>:::::
@emilytofts6921
@emilytofts6921 2 жыл бұрын
jacks mum is honestly amazing
@TheJazmazing
@TheJazmazing 2 жыл бұрын
45:42 the fact he cannot watch this back is a real worry
@irocksixx
@irocksixx 6 жыл бұрын
I don't believe forcing an autistic kid to be upset should be allowable. To me that's just child abuse. I have tendencies to lose my head over the simplest things like noise in the office or someone laughing drives me bananas and I have to buy noise cancelling headphones to drown them out, I cannot just say to myself "oh well, it'll stop" because no matter what, it will bother me the rest of my life and I don't go places (at all anyway really) where things that set me off will be. I try communicating this to my family but they don't care or try to research/learn why I am this way, they learn the hard way when I have episodes and they are extremely mean about it.
@barbaramoran8690
@barbaramoran8690 2 жыл бұрын
“Forcing autistic child to be upset is like spanking a child who fell down instead of comforting her
@prioract2842
@prioract2842 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. That Gunnar therapist is making me want to puke. His level of self entitlement makes him a danger to kids, ESPECIALLY to autistic kids. Future PTSD assured..
@jackycheeseburger8428
@jackycheeseburger8428 Жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry to hear! I'm here to reassure you that you are entitled to express something however you feel comfortable to do. You are a wonderful human being who will absolutely go so far in life! You have my support and I wish for the best for you. May you find true love and happiness and follow any dreams you wish to follow, and know that you can make a difference to this world by being yourself and being proud to be yourself. I wish you the very best!
@BethCrafts
@BethCrafts 6 жыл бұрын
Shortly after 37.07 the boy hits his mother. Notice how he looked at the photographer - he KNOWS he is exhibiting bad behavior. If he realizes bad behavior he can be taught that bad behavior IS NOT permissible.
@sissyrayself7508
@sissyrayself7508 6 жыл бұрын
Beth Adams I saw that too and I thought.. he knows that was wrong.. the little devil.
@someonewhoknows1000
@someonewhoknows1000 6 жыл бұрын
Beth Adams and Ask Me My Name But Jack's mother prefers to coddle him which in turn is the same thing as providing excuses. She needs more than her son Jack. I noticed when she claims she did or tried that as a quick excuse because if always followed with why she was refusing to "learn" how to do it for Jack, like eating. I attended a funeral years ago for a boy just short of his 10th birthday. He died from an improper diet of coke and pizza 365 days a year, and he wasn't Autistic. My point is a lot depends on the parents choice in what they allow their child to "get away with".
@robintana7654
@robintana7654 6 жыл бұрын
Same here I picked up on that. Jack put on a nice show. Jacks mum let jack win. And the que for that was the glance back at the film crew. And mum reinforceing. Simple answer is don't give any eye contact or say anything I would enforce break time before meltdown just after he flaps and claps his hands and lets go of mums hand thats the que that would be ideal to have break time / time out even if its by the lift. Just to let him get over being over loaded sensory wise because its a meltdown. Mum shouldn't request to come inside should use a command and stop having a conversation keep words minimal if not only commands so children similar to Jack understand what you are trying to get across to them.
@jamesgornall6184
@jamesgornall6184 5 жыл бұрын
Robin Tana a few of these cases seem to just be crap parents, it's an insult to people who genuinely have autistic kids.
@jamesgornall6184
@jamesgornall6184 5 жыл бұрын
Especially that woman who just looks like she's on crack.
@goingunder2548
@goingunder2548 8 ай бұрын
When you are autistic, you never forget the first time: - You had a meltdown and an adult told you to 'just stop doing that' - You were told 'why can't you just be normal' - You read an article about a parent killing their autistic child and the comments being sympathetic to the parent - You go to one of these clinics or even the more 'tame' therapy sessions and feel like a criminal - You realise you have been dehumanised for a lot of your life.
@meowmeowmeowwwwwwww
@meowmeowmeowwwwwwww 2 жыл бұрын
“be free of those behaviours enslaving them” im sorry what
@HelenEk7
@HelenEk7 6 жыл бұрын
Why would you not work on changing self-harming behavior? Hitting yourself or eating only custard is not helping any child in any way.. Early intervention can clearly rewire the brain for some of these kids - the Swedish 16 year old being a great example of that.
@whatsrealiswhatmatters
@whatsrealiswhatmatters 6 жыл бұрын
I think that that Swedish 16 year old would have done just as well with traditional, loving interventions. He appeared to have high functioning autism (more commonly called aspergers around the world, I just learned). Did you see his pain as he was shown his "treatment" or the way his sister lovingly leaned in towards him knowing his pain? Chances are he is still feeling coerced to behave "normally" (neurotypically) and I don't think that would feel very good. Nothing wrong with positive interventions when the child is motivated, but what that "therapist" was doing looked very abusive to me. My heart broke for him. Though he is clearly a badass innately and will be fine. I just hope he encounters some good *genuine* support like Wrong Planet or Tony Atwood. By the way, you should know that autism is correlated with a 9 fold risk of suicide. What is called for is more love, more acceptance, more understanding, and kind interventions when beneficial.
@ravenslaves
@ravenslaves 6 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely correct... Let's take this one step further... What makes you think that the 16 year old boy was ever autistic to begin with? His parents compared him with his sister's development and "knew" that something was wrong when his speech seemed delayed. Remembering that boys typically develop at a slower rate than girls do and that 3 1/2 isn't all that unusual for speech development in boys, 10-15%, and there are many reasons for this that have nothing to do with autism. But at this critical point in his development his parents started _treating_ him as if he was autistic. At that point he was viewed, treated and raised as a developmentally delayed person. As he's still viewed as. How would any "normal" child react to this? So when he developed into a fine, seemingly healthy, 16 year old kid, the therapist takes all the credit. Tony Atwood was one of the first to sound the alarm over this new "Autism Spectrum" trend as just a means to increase funding (it always seems to come down to money doesn't it). As a result you have more and more kids being wrongly diagnosed and treated as being on the "Autism Spectrum". It's then left to others to try to undo the damage done as these children become adults.. What we need is _truth_...and then... "more love, more acceptance, more understanding, and kind interventions when beneficial." (a lot more!!!)
@leannemo7382
@leannemo7382 5 жыл бұрын
I've read more about that boy. He does NOT remember the therapy and is very happy to be who he is now. He does NOT feel coerced into his current behavior or personality. The tears were because he was seeing how bad he'd been before his young mind was re-wired in order to better communicate with the world. That is thrilling to their whole family! Why in the world would you criticize that and make self-serving assumptions? Ignore the couch psychologists, Richard...you keep going!! :)
@afour9618
@afour9618 5 жыл бұрын
Just give the child some legal dope. That seems to be the so called Scientific Standard. People used to know to not even give caffeine to children, except for a headache or other acute needs. Now parents give their children multiple daily doses of amphetamines, gmo food, excess and chemical sugars, poisoning them with vaccines, and stick them in front of an Ipad as a nanny. People believe that it couldn't be legal if it isn't good for us. But few people want to acknowledge that Big Brother not only doesn't care about you, he hates you and seeks to destroy your body and capture your soul.
@KR-yf1pm
@KR-yf1pm 5 жыл бұрын
@@whatsrealiswhatmatters here, here. exactly the point i made above. The 'Doctor' was a controlling man. I didnt warm to his brusqueness
@catloverKD
@catloverKD 6 жыл бұрын
I made it to 10:35 and I'm done. I have Nonverbal learning disability (similar to, but not the same as autism) and I wasn't diagnosed until I was 26, around the same time that it cost me the career I wanted. Whether you believe autism needs to be cured or not, the reality is that it ISN'T CURABLE and just because a child looks or acts like they don't have something, doesn't mean they don't. If you expect social perfection, you're setting them up to fail. No one knew there was anything wrong with or different about me for almost 30 years, that doesn't mean it wasn't there or that my life was easier because it was hidden. If anything it was harder because I didn't get needed support or know why I could't do things like everyone else. I don't need to be cured, but I do consider it a disability and I need reasonable support. Both professionals and autistic people/those with autism need to have reasonable expectations.
@jemjarvs
@jemjarvs 6 жыл бұрын
Watch the whole documentary before commenting.
@catloverKD
@catloverKD 6 жыл бұрын
I'm allowed to watch (or not) and/or comment on whatever I want whenever I want. You can judge my choices all you want, it doesn't make you better than me.
@peacenow42
@peacenow42 6 жыл бұрын
No catlover, but it does make you less informed. I am sorry you could not make it further, the kids thrived.
@krollpeter
@krollpeter 6 жыл бұрын
It is not even about making them conform, as what many commented here. The therapist lady gave the gist of it. It is about removing barriers, for example the barrier of only eating mushy baby food, the barrier of not being able to count, the barrier of not having empathy so you can't play with other kids. The more barriers are removed the more the person is enabled to make his own, responsible choices.
@mariasindile9647
@mariasindile9647 6 жыл бұрын
catloverKD not all kids with autism are like you. Some are so severe that no matter what the training or whatnot, they will never learn and just physically keep growing. Some are really doomed and as harsh as it sounds/is, they're unfit for today's society. they won't ever have a lover or a job as they don't have the mental capacity for any of those.
@victoriasalter1701
@victoriasalter1701 2 жыл бұрын
Autism is not all bad. It is not an illness. It is a condition. It is not something “the matter” with someone. It is not wrong or bad to have Autism. The impact that it can have on you and your family can be bad but, with compassion, love, kind and helpful therapy, education and support, most problems that Autism causes/presents can be overcome. Autistic people should not be viewed as a “burden” or someone that the family “shouldn’t have to deal with”. We are human beings. We are still your sons, daughters, brothers, sisters, husbands, wives, nieces, nephews, grandsons and granddaughters. We can’t having Autism, and it is a big part of who we are. Autism and autistic people should be respected, loved and accepted for who we are, not treated with prejudice, discrimination or anger. We also should not be “cured” or “treated”, except in the cases where the autistic people themselves want to be cured or treated, or in the cases where it is (perhaps) a last resort and where it is truly what is best for the autistic people and/or those near and dear to them. Autistic people should never be forced to be cured or treated just so we can be more “normal”, just to make things easier for their families.
@filipeflower
@filipeflower 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that kind comment. I happen to be Autistic myself and I have a job and a girlfriend.
@isabellesarahwood5005
@isabellesarahwood5005 Жыл бұрын
I find this very disturbing . I have an autistic grandson and albeit all people with autism are different. He responds to Love and kindness and letting him be the guide.
@filipeflower
@filipeflower Жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@slyfoxie55
@slyfoxie55 6 жыл бұрын
Why are they treating these kids like they are retarded. My son was treated like this and he came home one day and said..... Why do they talk to me in a baby voice. He progressed in leaps and bounds once they started treating him age appropriately. He went through all this crap therapy. Leave the kids alone.
@chasedbyvvolves9256
@chasedbyvvolves9256 6 жыл бұрын
Your son was funtional enough to recognize that he was being talked down to, which is a good sign. Many aren't capable of understanding that they're seen as a child.
@jrdeborja0000
@jrdeborja0000 6 жыл бұрын
Hailey Ann thats a good point.
@shelbym6460
@shelbym6460 6 жыл бұрын
It drives me crazy when people see kids on the spectrum as "dumb" just because they don't communicate the same. My cousin was considered to have the lowest IQ in his class because he wouldnt do any of the kids puzzles. When the teacher talked to my aunt and uncle about holding him back a year or putting him in a school for slow children, they told the teacher to give him a harder puzzle. At 5 he was doing 1000 piece jigsaw puzzles upside down because they were so easy for him. He just wouldnt bother with the easy 5 year old puzzles. haha
@IamPINKIEDaniels
@IamPINKIEDaniels 6 жыл бұрын
Sarah-Anne _ I never treat kids with autism like they are dumb or don't understand me but sadly 75 percent of kids with autism do have comorbidity and intellectual disabilities too
@MsAda0
@MsAda0 6 жыл бұрын
Your logic is flawed. And your child s situation is clearly different than this. You cannot expect someone to treat an autistic child according to their age. My cousin is autistic and at 6 he is learning things like how to close his velcro shoes or how to hold a fork or how to communicate simple requests like milk biscuits and so on.
@gracemacleod5779
@gracemacleod5779 6 жыл бұрын
Autism doesn't make a person broken.
@dylanchamberlain3375
@dylanchamberlain3375 6 жыл бұрын
Grace MacLeod socially it does, depending on the severity
@AdamSmith-gs2dv
@AdamSmith-gs2dv 6 жыл бұрын
It depends, for example I have Asperger's and other than some mild social oddities and having intensive bizarre hobbies you wouldn't be able to tell I am. I used to be worse, I used to have pretty bad panic attacks and but medication and seeing a counselor regularly has helped me grown out of it by my first year of high school. However many of the children shown in this video have a severe form of Autism that basically inhibits them for the rest of their lives.
@user-qb5wy5dg8w
@user-qb5wy5dg8w 2 жыл бұрын
I have an ADHD child with no sever symptoms and I daily remind myself how strong I am; seeing other mother devoting their entire life for their special-needs children is so inspiring. You are not just a mother like any mothers out there; you are slefless heros and you need to remember that every single day. You don't know how much this inspires me ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@svetavinogradova4243
@svetavinogradova4243 2 жыл бұрын
ADHD is a made up diagnosis - ADHD simply means that your parenting techniques have been inadequate
@robloxjada61
@robloxjada61 2 жыл бұрын
@@svetavinogradova4243 And Tell me Why is ADHD in DSM-5 book
@svetavinogradova4243
@svetavinogradova4243 2 жыл бұрын
@@robloxjada61 In order to be able to lock you up without a court order, when needed.
@filipeflower
@filipeflower 2 жыл бұрын
@@svetavinogradova4243 Prove it.
@filipeflower
@filipeflower 2 жыл бұрын
@@svetavinogradova4243 It's been 3 days and no reply. I wonder why?
@caitlinlyons8376
@caitlinlyons8376 4 жыл бұрын
I was diagnosed with high functioning autism as an adult and I can honestly say and everyone who knows me wouldn’t have me any other way
@harleenk9637
@harleenk9637 2 жыл бұрын
What do you have to do with this doc?
@filipeflower
@filipeflower 2 жыл бұрын
@@harleenk9637 Why does that matter to you?
@Iamlurking504
@Iamlurking504 2 жыл бұрын
@@harleenk9637 Aspergers syndrome or high functioning autism, assists the logical and intellectual capacity of individual with the abnormality, they just struggle socially because we can't read them while they are masking their emotions all the time. Autism is good.
@filipeflower
@filipeflower 2 жыл бұрын
@@Iamlurking504 Thank you.
@---nobody---
@---nobody--- 6 жыл бұрын
Jack is such an adorable little guy!! 💕
@newleft2254
@newleft2254 6 жыл бұрын
I am in love with Jeremiah! He is such a sweet and innocent soul :') Please be gentle with him
@dianeofili1683
@dianeofili1683 6 жыл бұрын
I love Matthew, but I am biased as his mother is my aunt. xD xD xD
@pikaluv43
@pikaluv43 6 жыл бұрын
im on the spectrum myself
@peacenow42
@peacenow42 6 жыл бұрын
I loved them all, and all the parents, too.
@toyabermudez2523
@toyabermudez2523 6 жыл бұрын
judah mario me too
@katienovota8870
@katienovota8870 6 жыл бұрын
I really admire his father's honesty, it can be really hard for a man to admit he needs help dealing with family issues
@marklowe7431
@marklowe7431 4 жыл бұрын
This video really helped me understand. Thanks.
@lilia9228
@lilia9228 5 жыл бұрын
My 23 yr old went through a program very similar to the Treetops School approach but within the public school system. He also did very well. That Swedish man Gunnar is creating a whole bunch of people with trauma with his approach.
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